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| bdrung | !dmb-ping | 13:56 |
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| ubottu | bdrung, cody-somerville, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 13:56 |
| bdrung | meeting in four minutes | 13:56 |
| Laney | ok | 14:01 |
| Laney | cody-somerville: here? | 14:01 |
| Laney | #startmeeting | 14:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Aug 27 14:01:21 2012 UTC. The chair is Laney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:01 |
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| Laney | who's here? | 14:01 |
| micahg | o/ | 14:01 |
| tumbleweed | o/ | 14:01 |
| * bdrung is here, but ill. | 14:01 | |
| barry | o/ | 14:01 |
| Laney | is the agenda current? | 14:02 |
| * Laney is looking at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-13-19.09.html and seeing things not on there | 14:02 | |
| micahg | Laney: it is now :) | 14:03 |
| Laney | heh | 14:03 |
| Laney | #topic Review of action items | 14:03 |
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| Laney | #subtopic micahg to document the zentyal packageset | 14:03 |
| Laney | pending? | 14:03 |
| micahg | yeah | 14:03 |
| Laney | #subtopic micahg to ping beuno regarding CC discussion on whether upload rights should confer membership | 14:03 |
| Laney | done - yokozar started it | 14:03 |
| Laney | we got some +1s - should be able to finish with this before the next meeting? | 14:04 |
| tumbleweed | sounds likely | 14:04 |
| Laney | ok | 14:04 |
| micahg | yeah, if everyone could please respond (DMB members, myself included) | 14:04 |
| Laney | will someone get the CC to decide? | 14:04 |
| Laney | I'll +1 | 14:04 |
| micahg | well, the idea was we (DMB) decide and the CC only acts if we're deadlocked | 14:05 |
| Laney | oh, so we can just go ahead | 14:05 |
| micahg | AIUI at least :) | 14:05 |
| barry | doesn't sound like we're deadlocked | 14:05 |
| Laney | sounds good | 14:05 |
| Laney | #subtopic stgraber to clean up coredev/motu duplicate package set rights | 14:05 |
| micahg | I think this was done as well | 14:06 |
| Laney | I also believe that to be the case | 14:06 |
| Laney | #subtopic stgraber to clean up coredev/motu duplicate package set rights | 14:06 |
| Laney | that's scott remnant fyi | 14:06 |
| Laney | oops | 14:06 |
| Laney | #subtopic remove scott from ubuntu-core-dev until he signs the CoC | 14:06 |
| Laney | & also done | 14:06 |
| Laney | #subtopic Laney (tumbleweed) to contact the uploaders of unused packagesets | 14:07 |
| Laney | I just pinged Luke about sugar | 14:07 |
| Laney | http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/quantal/ which other ones are a concern? | 14:07 |
| tumbleweed | is unr used? | 14:07 |
| ScottK | Which Scott? | 14:07 |
| Laney | I propose to contact the TB as owners to get rid of unr/netbook(/mobile?) | 14:07 |
| tumbleweed | ScottK: not you :) | 14:08 |
| Laney | 27/08 15:06:34 <Laney> that's scott remnant fyi | 14:08 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:08 |
| micahg | ScottK: keybuk | 14:08 |
| ScottK | tumbleweed provided the critical part of the answer to my question. | 14:08 |
| Laney | cyphermox just said in #-desktop that networkmanager is unused | 14:08 |
| micahg | Laney: schooltool and mobile | 14:09 |
| Laney | #action laney to delete network-manager packageset | 14:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: laney to delete network-manager packageset | 14:09 |
| Laney | #action laney to contact menesis about schooltool packageset | 14:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: laney to contact menesis about schooltool packageset | 14:09 |
| Laney | #action laney to contact TB to see if netbook/unr/mobile packagesets are still needed | 14:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: laney to contact TB to see if netbook/unr/mobile packagesets are still needed | 14:09 |
| Laney | ok? | 14:09 |
| micahg | sounds good | 14:09 |
| Laney | #topic Per-Package Uploader application: Keng-Yu Lin | 14:10 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Per-Package Uploader application: Keng-Yu Lin | ||
| Laney | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keng-YuLin/PPU | 14:10 |
| Laney | kengyu: Hey, that's you ;-) | 14:10 |
| kengyu | hello all. /wave | 14:11 |
| Laney | kengyu: Can you introduce yourself and your application please? | 14:11 |
| kengyu | I am a Canonical employee; I work in the Hardware Enablement team, we are responsible for the Ubuntu preloads for OEMs. | 14:11 |
| kengyu | I am from Taipei, Taiwan, and am also a Ubuntu user for long time. :-) | 14:12 |
| kengyu | I am applying the PPU for fwts... | 14:12 |
| Laney | Can you quickly explain for the laymen here what fwts is about? | 14:13 |
| kengyu | because it is part of HWE team's project, and we offer the software for a various uses (certification, OEM, UEFI plugfest, etc). | 14:13 |
| kengyu | it's suite of tests focusing on BIOS (or firmware in others words) and UEFI hardware (we are still working on this). | 14:14 |
| bdrung | kengyu: what does fwts stand for? | 14:15 |
| kengyu | "FirmWare Test Suite" | 14:15 |
| kengyu | the current tests fwts has in documented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts | 14:16 |
| micahg | kengyu: I noticed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwts/0.24.21 you switched from dh-autoreconf to autoreconf, could you please explain why that was done? | 14:18 |
| kengyu | it's just because that Lucid does not have dh-autoreconf and Lucid was the LTS at that time, so I decided to keep the latest code working on Lucid. | 14:19 |
| micahg | kengyu: were you aware that dh-autoreconf did more than just the configure step? | 14:22 |
| micahg | kengyu: also, since I assume you weren't uploading to the archive, dh-autoreconf was available in lucid-backports | 14:24 |
| kengyu | micahg, I think dh-autoreconf does not cleaning work. But my original intention was not to "revert" the use of dh-autoreconf and use hand-made 'autoreconf' commands in debian/rules... | 14:27 |
| kengyu | I added the dh-autoreconf support in a previous patch. But had another one to use autoreconf because of Lucid support. | 14:29 |
| micahg | kengyu: right, which would be fine, but there are two parts and I only saw the configure part in that changelog | 14:29 |
| micahg | s/changelog/diff/ | 14:29 |
| kengyu | micahg, it's good to know that it is in Lucid-backports. at the time I just noticed the build failure in the PPA. | 14:30 |
| micahg | kengyu: right, the more important part though is only implementing a partial manual rule in its place | 14:31 |
| kengyu | micahg, Yes, thanks for this. This will be something I will work on. :-) | 14:33 |
| Laney | thanks | 14:33 |
| Laney | does anybody have any other questions? | 14:33 |
| tumbleweed | sure | 14:33 |
| tumbleweed | kengyu: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=hwe/fwts.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca9a4ac791265e0e4e945c2472aee6650b078d7d | 14:33 |
| tumbleweed | does that mean it's ging to get upstream releases soon? | 14:34 |
| tumbleweed | *going | 14:34 |
| kengyu | tumbleweed, it's the plan. at least releasing as a tarball eases the pain for packaging for other distros (we've seen bug reported from gentoo too). | 14:36 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 14:36 |
| tumbleweed | can we expect to see it in Debian, too, then? | 14:36 |
| kengyu | I have that as my plan. But it takes some more time before issuing the ITP. the ACPICA code (is in fwts) from Intel has some legal/copyright issue. | 14:37 |
| kengyu | there will be some more discussion I expect. | 14:37 |
| * tumbleweed looks forward to that at some point | 14:38 | |
| Laney | kengyu: Quick question about the Ubuntu release cycle | 14:39 |
| Laney | kengyu: Do you know what Feature Freeze is and how it would impact any uploads of fwts you might perform? | 14:39 |
| kengyu | Laney, yes, after that freeze any upload will require the FFE. | 14:40 |
| Laney | kengyu: Where can you find out whethere we are in feature (or any other) freeze? | 14:41 |
| Laney | also, it's not quite 'any' upload — only ones which contain new features (i.e. aren't purely bug fix) | 14:41 |
| kengyu | from wiki.ubuntu.com there is a schedule table. | 14:42 |
| kengyu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule | 14:42 |
| Laney | kengyu: thanks, that's it from me | 14:43 |
| Laney | bdrung: go | 14:43 |
| bdrung | kengyu: fwts will fail to build twice in the row once you switch to the "3.0 (quilt)" source format | 14:44 |
| kengyu | bdrung, really! I did not notice that. | 14:45 |
| bdrung | kengyu: the source package content changes after one build: http://paste.debian.net/185847/ | 14:46 |
| Laney | that's what micahg was getting at with the autoreconf questions | 14:46 |
| bdrung | kengyu: there might be no difference if you use the same autotools version | 14:46 |
| kengyu | brendand, ok, I will look at this. there should be more cleaning. | 14:47 |
| Laney | it's what dh_autoreconf_clean would do for you if you used that | 14:47 |
| bdrung | kengyu: do you check the lintian report including experimental before the upload? lintian found some typos in the source. | 14:48 |
| kengyu | bdrung, no, I did check the lintian error/warning. But I just check the ones from pbuilder-dist... | 14:50 |
| bdrung | kengyu: lintian has experimental and pedentic tags that are useful to check, too | 14:50 |
| Laney | running out of time, let's move on | 14:51 |
| Laney | barry: got anything to ask? | 14:51 |
| kengyu | bdrung, this is nice to know. I will check it next time. :-) | 14:51 |
| barry | Laney: no, my questions have already been asked by others | 14:51 |
| Laney | thanks | 14:51 |
| Laney | anyone else? | 14:51 |
| bdrung | nothing important | 14:52 |
| Laney | education can continue elsewhere afterwards | 14:52 |
| Laney | #vote Grant Keng-Yu Lin PPU to fwts | 14:52 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Grant Keng-Yu Lin PPU to fwts | 14:52 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 14:52 |
| Laney | #voters bdrung Laney barry micahg tumbleweed stgraber cody-somerville | 14:53 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Laney barry bdrung cody-somerville micahg stgraber tumbleweed | 14:53 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 14:53 |
| meetingology | +1 received from tumbleweed | 14:53 |
| barry | +1 | 14:53 |
| meetingology | +1 received from barry | 14:53 |
| bdrung | +1 | 14:53 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdrung | 14:53 |
| Laney | +1 good endorsements, good review process upstream | 14:53 |
| meetingology | +1 good endorsements, good review process upstream received from Laney | 14:53 |
| * Laney peers at micahg | 14:54 | |
| micahg | +1, would love to see this in Debian soon | 14:54 |
| meetingology | +1, would love to see this in Debian soon received from micahg | 14:54 |
| Laney | #endvote | 14:55 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Grant Keng-Yu Lin PPU to fwts | 14:55 |
| meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 14:55 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 14:55 |
| Laney | congratulations! | 14:55 |
| kengyu | thanks. :-) | 14:55 |
| Laney | #action stgraber to add ppu for lexical to fwts | 14:55 |
| meetingology | ACTION: stgraber to add ppu for lexical to fwts | 14:55 |
| Laney | #topic AOB | 14:55 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| Laney | silence is good | 14:56 |
| Laney | #topic next chair | 14:56 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: next chair | ||
| Laney | who is it? | 14:57 |
| Laney | I lost track | 14:57 |
| barry | cody-somerville :) | 14:57 |
| Laney | or? | 14:57 |
| tumbleweed | probably me, in practice | 14:57 |
| Laney | ok | 14:57 |
| barry | i think so | 14:57 |
| Laney | #action next chair cody-somerville (tumbleweed) | 14:58 |
| meetingology | ACTION: next chair cody-somerville (tumbleweed) | 14:58 |
| Laney | cheers | 14:58 |
| Laney | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Aug 27 14:58:03 2012 UTC. | 14:58 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-14.01.moin.txt | 14:58 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| barry | thanks Laney ! | 14:58 |
| * Laney urghs about the post-meeting tasks | 14:58 | |
| * micahg urghs with Laney | 14:58 | |
| Laney | hm | 14:58 |
| stgraber | stgraber@castiana:~/data/code/ubuntu-archive-tools$ ./edit-acl add -s fwts -p lexical | 14:58 |
| stgraber | Added: | 14:59 |
| Laney | AlanBell: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-14.01.html is the bot case sensitive wrt nicknames? | 14:59 |
| stgraber | Archive Upload Rights for lexical: archive 'primary', source package 'fwts' | 14:59 |
| stgraber | Laney: ^ | 14:59 |
| Laney | stgraber: ta! | 14:59 |
| Laney | he magically appears after the meeting is done :P | 14:59 |
| stgraber | :) | 15:00 |
| * micahg goes poof again | 15:01 | |
| micahg | oops...E_TOOMANYCHANNELS | 15:01 |
| AlanBell | Laney: erm, possibly, did someone change case during a meeting or something? | 16:27 |
| Laney | no | 16:27 |
| Laney | I did my own actions with #action laney ... | 16:27 |
| Laney | not #action Laney | 16:27 |
| Laney | and they got grouped as unassigned items | 16:27 |
| AlanBell | ah, that probably is case sensitive | 16:27 |
| jdstrand | hi! | 18:02 |
| tyhicks` | hello | 18:02 |
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| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 18:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Aug 27 18:03:36 2012 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 18:03 |
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| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 18:03 |
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| jdstrand | I'll go first | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | I'm in the happy place this week | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | I've got more MIR auditing and pending updates | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | I should also be finished with the second iteration of aa-sandbox and send that to the list | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur is not here today | 18:05 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: you're up | 18:05 |
| sbeattie | I'm on community this week. | 18:05 |
| sbeattie | I also have a couple of updates to finish testing and push out. | 18:05 |
| sbeattie | I also need to get the apparmor-dbus ppa going and review aa-sandbox. | 18:06 |
| sbeattie | that's it for me. | 18:06 |
| sbeattie | did micahg make it back in time? | 18:06 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: I recommend holding off on that review til I submit again | 18:06 |
| sbeattie | yeah | 18:06 |
| jdstrand | I think he is not. he can jump in later if he comes back | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | I'll go | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | I'm handling triage this week | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | I just returned from a long vacation and I'm still catching up | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | Another couple hours and I should be back on top of everything | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | While I was out, I finished xmlrpc-c patches for CVE-2012-0876 and CVE-2012-1148 | 18:09 |
| ubottu | The XML parser (xmlparse.c) in expat before 2.1.0 computes hash values without restricting the ability to trigger hash collisions predictably, which allows context-dependent attackers to cause a denial of service (CPU consumption) via an XML file with many identifiers with the same value. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-0876) | 18:09 |
| ubottu | Memory leak in the poolGrow function in expat/lib/xmlparse.c in expat before 2.1.0 allows context-dependent attackers to cause a denial of service (memory consumption) via a large number of crafted XML files that cause improperly-handled reallocation failures when expanding entities. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-1148) | 18:09 |
| tyhicks | I'll need to test those patches and try to get the updates out | 18:09 |
| tyhicks | I say 'try' because I'll be at the Linux Security Summit Thursday and Friday of this week | 18:10 |
| tyhicks | before I leave, i'm going to help jdstrand with a security audit | 18:10 |
| tyhicks | I think that's it for me | 18:10 |
| jjohansen | I guess I am up | 18:11 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: yep, you're up | 18:11 |
| jjohansen | I need to finish up this the 2.8 port of the aa-dbus patches, and finish debugging the current set of kernel patches (rcu, fs update, ..), then I will be heading to Linux Security Summit for Thursday and Friday this week | 18:12 |
| jjohansen | that is it for me jdstrand back to you | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | thanks | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 18:14 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/smokeping.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/chasen.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/msmtp.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mhonarc.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ruby-actionpack-2.3.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 18:14 |
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| jdstrand | There are a lot of merge opportunities for packages listed in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/. Performing these updates is a great way to help Ubuntu and bolster your developer application. | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie, jjohansen, tyhicks: thanks! | 18:20 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 18:20 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Aug 27 18:20:03 2012 UTC. | 18:20 |
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| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-18.03.html | 18:20 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: thanks! | 18:20 |
| jjohansen | Thanks jdstrand | 18:20 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 18:20 |
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