[00:59] <riddlebox> Hello is anyone around?
[02:48] <riddlebox> I am using a pvr-150 with the 12.04 version of mythbuntu, I have audio, but my video is kind of scrambled, is there anything I can do to clear it up?
[18:52] <yunosh> is there any changelog for the mythbuntu theme, besides the commit list in github?
[18:52] <tgm4883> no
[18:56] <FabriceMG> tgm4883, good job for the update theme
[18:56] <yunosh> too bad. you have done been a bunch of surprising improvements lately, and i'd love to discover more of those. it's hard to track the commit per release though, especially if the merges to the fixes branch don't contain any details
[18:57] <yunosh> but i fully agree with FabriceMG
[18:57] <FabriceMG> i like the new program grid, it's more clean
[19:03] <tgm4883> yunosh, what is currently happening, is things get pushed to master, then a merge to 0.25 and 0.26 takes place
[19:04] <tgm4883> there is no extra merges, and nothing left out
[19:04] <tgm4883> eventually, when 0.26 gets released, there probably won't be any more updates to the 0.25 branch
[19:04] <yunosh> yes, i noticed. i just checked the master commits, but those aren't very helpful in finding changes either
[19:07] <tgm4883> yunosh, should be OK, what exactly would you want?
[19:08] <superm1> tgm4883: did you actually make a 0.26 branch already for the theme then too?
[19:08] <yunosh> well, your commit messages are like "Applied patch 4 from Yeechan". they don't really describe *what* those patches change
[19:08] <tgm4883> superm1, yes
[19:08] <superm1> or are you meaning master == 0.26?
[19:08] <tgm4883> yunosh, not anymore
[19:08] <superm1> oh rlly?
[19:08] <tgm4883> yunosh, now it should say what changed
[19:09] <tgm4883> superm1, yea there is a 0.26 theme branch
[19:09] <superm1> i just checked with beirdo and they're not planning on making fixes/0.26 until 0.26 is declared gold
[19:09] <superm1> for mythtv and mythweb and friends
[19:09] <tgm4883> superm1, themes aren't included in that?
[19:09] <superm1> yeah each can move at their own pace
[19:10] <superm1> but i'm not sure the right version will get pulled into the master/0.26 binary build if one is ahead of the other
[19:10] <yunosh> indeed, the last 4 commits are more descriptive
[19:10] <tgm4883> superm1, it shows up in the theme downloader
[19:11] <yunosh> what i *actually* want, is the downloader to display some changelog, but that's a different story
[19:12] <superm1> tgm4883: hmm but what about the one used in the source build?
[19:13]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[19:13] <superm1> i'm just worried that it will get ahead of the fixes/0.26 if master is used in the source build
[19:13] <tgm4883> I assume it just pulls it from the branch
[19:13] <superm1> it might be a non-starter, lets check what the script does
[19:14] <superm1> https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/master/deb/debian/mythtv.make
[19:14] <Zinn> [github.com] packaging/deb/debian/mythtv.make at master Â· MythTV/packaging Â· GitHub
[19:14] <superm1> looks like it's not going to be a problem
[19:14] <tgm4883> ok
[19:14] <superm1> it only uses master if fixes/0.$(GIT_MAJOR_RELEASE) doesn't exist
[19:15] <superm1> yunosh: tgm4883: should we maybe come up with a way to show commits in debian/changelog for the theme like we do for mythtv commits?
[19:16] <superm1> i'm not sure if that's of much value since it's all going to be in github anyway
[19:16] <tgm4883> I don't think it will help, yunosh wants them in the theme downloader, which I don't think is going to happen but wouldn't be something we add anyway
[19:16] <yunosh> no, that's not that helpful. i'd rather see this in the theme metadata
[19:17] <superm1> tgm4883: i upgraded to 0.26 but haven't looked at these changes to theme yet, sounds like i should be excited though
[19:31] <tgm4883> superm1, yea there has been a lot of changes.
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