[06:29] <babyface> why no quantal desktop iso built on Aug 26?  I checked the build log, and now it's "Reading state information...", what's wrong with the build server?
[08:50] <ogra_> hmm. we are still building precise dailies ... is that wanted ?
[15:26] <seb128> can I get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1040259 review,approved?
[15:26] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1040259 in thunderbird "FFE: libmessaging-menu transitions for quantal" [High,Fix committed]
[15:39] <seb128> hum
[15:39] <seb128> no reply on friday, nobody around today ... I wonder if I should just upload ;-)
[15:40] <Laney> seb128: You say it's being tested — I assume the results are good?
[15:40] <seb128> Laney, no, it doesn't start and will destroy your desktop :p
[15:40] <Laney> well, the bug doesn't say :P
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, joke aside, it's in the desktop team ppa and ken, lars, chris, I and probably some others are running it
[15:41] <Laney> will you stage in proposed?
[15:41] <seb128> it works fine with that set: empathy, thunderbird, xchat-gnome
[15:41] <seb128> oh and gwibber
[15:41] <seb128> so that covers default install and popular IRC client
[15:41] <seb128> yes, I will stage in proposed
[15:42] <Laney> and
[15:42] <Laney> the old API is deprecated but still available?
[15:42] <seb128> no
[15:42] <seb128> well the indicator doesn't consume the old api
[15:42] <seb128> so those will not show in the indicator
[15:43] <Laney> hum
[15:43] <Laney> so is there anything in the archive which will regress and isn't on the list to be fixed?
[15:43] <seb128> no
[15:43] <seb128> evolution-indicator is being worked by cyphermox
[15:43] <seb128> we will port pidgin and liferea soon as well
[15:44] <Laney> ok let's add tasks for those and milestone them and then i'll approve it
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, done
[15:49] <Laney> seb128: approved
[15:50] <seb128> Laney, thanjs
[15:50] <seb128> thanks
[15:50] <Laney> np
[17:39] <balloons> I marked the Ubuntu Desktop armhf+omap4 for rebuild.. several folks reported it was bad.. checking the image size, it's 22 mb.. yikes
[17:39] <Laney> I think that buildd had problems
[17:39] <Laney> ogra_: ?
[17:40] <infinity> I think Oli's been fiddling with lamont.
[17:40] <infinity> Though, a 22MB image is pretty awesome.
[17:43] <ogra_> yeah, we can add so much new stuff now !
[17:43] <balloons> +1!
[17:44] <ogra_> i didnt really bother to do a rebuild given they will be rebuild anyway by cron, do you urgently need a respin ?
[17:44] <balloons> ogra_, not urgently.. I marked it for rebuild so it wouldn't show up as valid on the list
[17:44] <ogra_> ah, k
[17:44] <balloons> aka, so I wouldn't have another person emailing me about not being able to get the image to work
[17:45] <ogra_> i still have to get used to the fact that the isotracker isnt only used during milestones
[17:45] <balloons> afaik, anytime there is an invalid image that's the best way to prevent others from stumbling over the bad image
[17:45] <balloons> so.. please feel free to do it if you know the image is bad :-)
[17:46] <ogra_> balloons, i'll try to remember that next time after getting out of panic and debugging mode ...
[17:46] <balloons> thanks ogra_ :-)
[18:27] <stgraber> skaet: sorry for the delay for the edubuntu-live work. I finally got it working as I wanted, so I'm doing some final testing and will have it uploaded in the next hour.
[18:28] <skaet> stgraber,  ok.
[18:28] <stgraber> (^ is a pre-approved FFe for edubuntu-live to include a dialog to install any needed langpack when starting the live environment)
[19:11] <stgraber> skaet: edubuntu-live uploaded and that's it for my last minute feature changes, anything from now will come with a FFe request (not that I'm expecting anything at this point)
[19:19]  * skaet nods
[19:20] <jocarter> a benevolent nod from skaet!
[19:20] <jocarter> (at least that's how I imagined it :p)
[19:20] <knome> self-appointed too?
[19:20] <skaet> :)
[19:20] <stgraber> jocarter: if you have some hardware you can test Edubuntu on, please test tomorrow's build in non-english to see if my dialog shows up and does what it's supposed to
[19:21] <stgraber> jocarter: I tested with alpha-3 as that's the last image I can get to work in kvm, but maybe some things changed after that
[19:21] <knome> stgraber, that was probably the best testcase description i've ever read :)
[19:21] <knome> i will have to write that down... "boot xubuntu and check if it does what it's supposed to"
[19:22] <stgraber> knome: that's pretty much my usual testcase for anything in the archive ;)
[19:22] <knome> heh :)
[19:23] <stgraber> knome: for some reason, I'm assuming that the people who helped speccing the work for the next release probably can expand "does what it's supposed to do" without needing flow charts and screenshots
[19:23] <knome> stgraber, depends... sometimes, i need to be reminded :)
[19:23] <knome> stgraber, and flow charts are always nice!
[19:57] <Laney> do you know if the kernel packageset is managed with a script?
[19:58] <Laney> no, I don't think so
[19:58] <knome> asking yourself, eh?
[19:58] <Laney> I remembered where the script is and looked at it
[19:58] <Laney> but now you also all get to share in this knowledge
[19:59] <knome> :)
[20:01] <Laney> knome: What's the xubuntu/studio plan for dealing with the gtk2 indicators problem?
[20:02] <knome> Laney, unfortunately, we haven't have time to put up a good plan yet.
[20:02] <knome> Laney, the last minute change wasn't really hoped for.
[20:03] <Laney> hmm
[20:03] <Laney> to be fair, it was announced on -devel
[20:03] <knome> yeah, but not too early
[20:04] <knome> i'm not judging anybody by it, but we simply haven't had time to think about that through yet
[20:04] <knome> if you have an idea, please feel free to propose at #xubuntu-devel or our mailing list
[20:04] <knome> cooperation doesn't hurt.
[20:05] <knome> especially as we are really busy with the UIF
[21:11] <ajmitch> is there something I'm missing that I need to do to get a package through NEW for quantal?
[21:12] <seb128> ajmitch, you mean?
[21:12] <ajmitch> unity-lens-help, it's been in the queue for almost 2 weeks
[21:12] <seb128> ajmitch, lack of reviewers
[21:12] <ajmitch> ok
[21:13] <seb128> I looked quickly at it
[21:13] <seb128> but it was non trivial for some reason and I delayed it and didn't have time to come back to it yet
[21:13]  * ajmitch did a fix of the changelog after Laney spotted that I hadn't added any actual changes in the version uploaded
[21:14] <Laney> trolling pays
[21:14] <ajmitch> you're the master at it
[21:15] <seb128> ajmitch, I rejected the old one to avoid confusion
[21:15] <ajmitch> ok, thanks
[21:16] <ajmitch> Laney: you should put your name forward for ~ubuntu-archive, it'd be fun
[21:17] <slangasek> ?
[21:18] <ajmitch> slangasek: don't worry :)
[21:18] <Laney> I would be interested in that to be honest ;-)
[21:19] <Laney> slangasek: He's complaining about NEW delays :-)
[21:19] <slangasek> yes, this seems to me like a legitimate thing for him to do, so I don't understand the "it'd be fun" bit
[21:20] <ajmitch> that's just me trying to convince him to do more work
[21:21] <slangasek> ah, heh
[21:28]  * ajmitch would offer to help out in some way if it'd be useful
[22:24] <xnox> thanks stgraber, i know jocarter or somebody else did mention LTSP to me before, but you clearly know more details about it =)
[22:25] <stgraber> xnox: np. It's essentially the one weird case where people install servers used my hundreds of users using the alternate media.
[22:25] <xnox> s/my/by/