[02:23] <lickalott> anyone here running a znc/bnc?  I'm having oidentd issues.
[02:24] <lickalott> is there a way to configure the oidentfile to auto choose based on the ip the connection is using?
[02:24] <lickalott> right now it shows my actual user name from my server vs my irc nick.  and when one of my users is still connected and I do a /znc jump i get a module in use error
[03:14] <riz0n> Hello guys, I am setting up an Ubuntu Server 12.04, and am going by the Server Guide. I am trying to set up SASL Authentication in Dovecot, on page 237, it refers to editing a file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf. It wants to uncomment lines auth default section, in socket listen{ }. The problem is, the dovecot.conf file does not contain the lines as the documentation includes. Can someone
[03:14] <riz0n> tell me the file that I need to edit that contains this portion of the configuration? Thanks.
[04:19] <kees> riz0n: in 12.04 the dovecot configure got spread out. look for auth.conf, maybe?
[04:19] <kees> *configuration
[04:20] <lickalott> gents, running into an odd issue.   I installed ubuntu to /dev/sda but added 3x 500GB drives after installation.  they showed up as sdb, sdc and sdd.  I rebooted and not /boot shows up against sdb and my mounts in fstab won't mount (likely because /dev/sdb1 is supposed to be mounted to /media/<FOLDERNAME>)  anyone know whats going on here?
[04:26] <lickalott> SO...is there anyone even in this chan or is it just for show?
[04:29] <Super_Dog> lickalott:  have you messed with the boot order in your BIOS?
[04:30] <Super_Dog> the drives you added may have re-arranged the order depending on their precedence in your hardware...
[04:32] <lickalott> no BIOS messing.  There are 3x IDE drives and 1x SATA.  2x IDE drives are cable select on EIDE 1 and the 3rd IDE drive is "slave" on EIDE 2 along with a DVD drive.
[04:32] <lickalott> i even went as far as to move the jumper to master on SDA
[04:33] <lickalott> but why would it move /boot to sdb (which is #2 IDE on EIDE 1 and marked as cable select)?
[04:33]  * lickalott sratches head
[04:34] <Super_Dog> IDE will often take precedence hen these are added - especially to older system...
[04:34] <Super_Dog> hen = when
[04:35] <lickalott> should I place the jumpers in the proper config (i.e. master, slave, etc...) for them all?
[04:35] <Super_Dog> Hold on...
[04:35] <Super_Dog> was the SATA drive the original drive you installed to?
[04:35] <lickalott> neg
[04:36] <lickalott> master cable slot on cable select
[04:36] <Super_Dog> sounds to me like your drives got re-assigned when you added all the drives afterwards...
[04:36] <lickalott> agree
[04:36] <Super_Dog> why else would your boot drive go from /sda to /sdb...?
[04:37] <Super_Dog> Again - you may have to play with your boot order in your BIOS - problem with older machines is that they may not have very granular options there...
[04:37] <lickalott> i had to rebuild the server because i was SURE that /boot was on sda.  After I rebooted (after installing the drives) i didn't check, assuming it was the same and formatted all the new drives.  POOF went my install
[04:38] <Super_Dog> Did you image your hard drive?
[04:38]  * lickalott looks down in shame
[04:38] <Super_Dog> clonezilla / dd - both will work
[04:38] <lickalott> i was in the middle of tar'ing up my ~ folder when i rebooted.  I had two ssh windows open and forgot I was tar'ing it up for a back up.
[04:39] <Super_Dog> I like installing with all the drives in place - when adding storage I like to use LVM.
[04:40] <Super_Dog> different strokes for different folks - sure you'll get some differences of opinion on this
[04:40] <lickalott> if this continues to pain me i may rebuild again with all in place
[04:40] <Super_Dog> is your bios crappy and doesn't allow you to play with it...?
[04:40] <Super_Dog> boot order can often be re-prioritized in a lot of modern bios settings
[04:41] <lickalott> it's an OLD machine.  I'd have to look and see if there is an update, but the bios that's on it now is limited.
[04:41] <Super_Dog> i try to never mix older IDE with SATA.  boot order can be a royal nightmare with that setup
[04:42] <Super_Dog> if you have to add drives - be careful and image everything.... but you should be able to go back to your single drive setup and boot just fine
[04:43] <Super_Dog> don't know why that wouldn't fly for you if you are doing just a plain jane install of a debian server or what not.
[04:44] <lickalott> it got stuck on boot tonight (init 6 via putty) and when it didn't come back I had to go to the back room and check on it.  That's when i saw that it wasn't mounting properly.  I commented out my entires in fstab and rebooted and it came up fine.
[04:44] <Super_Dog> good... at least you're back to where you were...
[04:44] <Super_Dog> nothing lost?
[04:45] <lickalott> not this time, no
[04:45] <lickalott> it's just odd that it swapped drive spots
[04:45] <Super_Dog> you have some spare add-in cards?  Sometimes those are more reliable than the mo-bo adapters on the old mobo's...
[04:46] <Super_Dog> does it support pci-express?
[04:46] <lickalott> no...   This was a frankenstien job.  I had some drives in my winblows server that I upgraded and decided to throw the old ones in my ubuntu server
[04:46] <lickalott> no (PICe)
[04:46] <lickalott> it's OLD... like P4 old
[04:46] <lickalott> lol
[04:50] <lickalott> i'm going to change my fstab to sda1 (mounted to /media/<FOLDERNAME> instead of sdb1.  If he's happy with /boot on sdb, he can keep it....
[04:50] <Super_Dog> good luck with that...
[04:52] <Super_Dog> although I have had some luck with various PCI controllers.  JMicron gets a bad wrap on WinBloze platforms but it has been successful for me on Linux server installs on old Frankenstein units...
[04:53] <lickalott> i'm too far into the rebuild now... took me 3 days to get ipv6 working properly with an HE tunnel.  worst case (for the time being is I take #2 on EIDE 2 out and operate without 500GB
[04:54] <Super_Dog> You don't need any of the Promise or JMicron raid controller cards either...  Just get a standard run of the mill PCI controller did the trick for me on an old P4 system.
[04:54] <Super_Dog> Those will usually default to a later drive precedent than any of the on-board mobo controllers.
[04:55] <lickalott> i have a frys right up the street  :-D
[04:57] <Super_Dog> $10-$20 no more... I ordered some no names with the same chipset on e-bay and they worked fine...
[04:59] <Super_Dog> some of the old P4's have a bios setting for booting add-in cards first... be careful with those
[05:11] <lickalott> Super_Dog, there was an issue with my fstab entries.  Doesn't solve the movement of /boot from sda to sdb but I think it would be fine now if I continued (keeping sdb as my primary)
[05:23] <lickalott> Super_Dog do you have anything auto mounted in fstab besides the default stuff?
[05:42] <lickalott> Super_Dog, i was able to use BIOS to force the main/primary drive.  works now.  thanks for the assist man!
[06:34] <Super_Dog> You are welcome sir...
[06:34] <Super_Dog> lickalott:  consider yourself lucky....  Those old mobo's can just kill your mind...
[07:34] <Kartagis> hi
[07:34] <Kartagis> I'm in the process of purchasing a dedicated server, but I need some advice. can I ask here?
[07:34] <Super_Dog> Yep...
[07:34] <drag0nius> hello
[07:34] <drag0nius> whats some nice web shell?
[07:35] <Kartagis> we are 3 people purchasing it
[07:35] <Kartagis> we want to virtualise it so no one interferes with the other
[07:35] <Super_Dog> What you trying to do with it...
[07:36] <Super_Dog> Three virtual machines running on the server?
[07:36] <Kartagis> I am being asked what OS. do I choose an OS or do I choose a rescue system?
[07:36] <Kartagis> yes, virtual machines
[07:36] <Super_Dog> You can run Ubuntu Server if you wish...
[07:36] <Super_Dog> You can use VM-Ware.  Virtual Box.  KEMU.  Others...
[07:37] <Kartagis> one guy says we need rescue system if we need to virtualise
[07:37] <Super_Dog> Is this small business or big enterprise node or what?
[07:37] <Kartagis> hetzner esx4, if you are interested to know
[07:38] <Kartagis> 2x3tb hdd
[07:38] <Kartagis> 32gb ram
[07:38] <Kartagis> 8 IP addresses
[07:39] <Super_Dog> Rescue system - I would suggest using system cloning or imaging and redundant storage solution...
[07:39] <Super_Dog> Lots and lots of ways to skin the cat there....
[07:40] <Kartagis> all I need to know is if we really need rescue system to virtualise
[07:40] <Kartagis> if we do, I'm going to change the order
[07:40] <Kartagis> I've already placed it
[07:41] <Super_Dog> Short answer is probably "No, you don't".  But depends on what "rescue system" is being defined as.  It may be a good idea...
[07:42] <Super_Dog> One person's "rescue system" is another person's redundant storage solution with off-site backup provisions.
[07:43] <Super_Dog> Can you define exactly what the "rescue system" is?
[07:43] <Kartagis> my OS options are centos, debian, ubuntu server, opensuse. what should I choose? please reply regardless of the channel
[07:43] <Kartagis> Super_Dog: if I only knew
[07:43] <Super_Dog> :-)
[07:44] <_ruben> you already mentioned esx, that'd be your os
[07:44] <Super_Dog> Hate to recommend.  Of course I am running Ubuntu Server - ergo my presence on this channel.
[07:44] <Super_Dog> Correct ESX4 is essentially an OS by VMWare that will let you run your virtualized machines on it...
[07:45] <Super_Dog> All of those options are freely downloadable...
[07:45] <Kartagis> _ruben: oh, I thought esx4 was the name of the plan
[07:45] <_ruben> could be, but if that's the case, i'd assume the server would come installed with esx :)
[07:45] <Super_Dog> Not a big deal.  Now if you are getting support for ubuntu - that's a different story...  There's free open source and then you can buy Ubuntu support packages from Canonical.
[07:46] <Super_Dog> google esx4 and you will find out more about it...
[07:47] <Super_Dog> It's VMWare server virtualization product...
[07:47] <Super_Dog> Pretty slick from what I hear but I don't run it myself.
[07:49] <_ruben> vmware makes pretty great products, yet the really cool stuff is rather pricey
[07:50] <Super_Dog> _ruben speaketh the truth on price
[07:51] <_ruben> but for the simple tasks, the free stuff suffices just fine
[07:52] <Kartagis> I hear about Xen. can I use that on ESX4?
[07:52] <_ruben> no
[07:52] <Super_Dog> http://www.vmware.com/products/datacenter-virtualization/vsphere/pricing.html
[07:52] <_ruben> nesting virtualization products hardly ever works
[07:52] <_ruben> xen provides virtualization, as does esx
[07:53] <_ruben> (tho one shouldn't be using esx nowaydays, but esxi instead)
[07:53] <Super_Dog> Yeah, that gets a bit convoluted... I would virtualize off the ESX
[07:53] <Super_Dog> Isn't it called VSphere now?
[07:53] <_ruben> vSphere is the name of the whole productline
[07:53] <_ruben> where esxi is the name of the hypervizor
[07:54] <Super_Dog> OK...  I'm rusty on the new nomenclature as I've stuck with the free open source solutions...
[07:55] <Super_Dog> Should be ESX5 it looks like...  http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/esxi-and-esx/overview.html
[07:55] <Super_Dog> I mean if you are buying new and all...
[07:55] <Super_Dog> or I should say "ESXi"
[07:56] <_ruben> ESX5 doesn't exist, ESXi5 does
[07:56] <_ruben> 4 was the latest with both ESX and ESXi
[08:19] <_ruben> bah .. bug #1020914 is still present in 12.04.1 :/
[08:33] <Super_Dog> Windows 8 Enterprise Link:  https://24.234.137.89:8100/ajaxplorer/data/public/d5c2b5ed9cc035118988891268f0cf9a.php?lang=en
[08:34] <Lachezar> Hello all... How do I make a RAID1 with 2 GPT disks detected and mounted at boot time?
[08:43] <Kartagis> Super_Dog: hetzner.de says "Das Rescue-System ist ein minimales Linuxsystem mit den wichtigsten Tools"
[08:53] <_ruben> Kartagis: so (as I expected) it's aimed at recovering an existing installation
[10:08] <_ruben> ok, this is weird, regarding the failure to mount /boot at boot time. if i strace mountall in the iniramfs prompt, i get nothing relating to /boot
[10:09] <ogra_> check your fstab :)
[10:09] <_ruben> /dev/md0 /boot ext2 relatime 0 2
[10:09] <_ruben> nothing wrong there i'd say
[10:10] <ogra_> and /dev/md0 exists at that point ?
[10:10] <blackshirt> your /boot reside on own partition?
[10:10] <_ruben> mount -a -t ext2 does work for instance
[10:10] <_ruben> but mountall just stalls
[10:11] <blackshirt> ruben, are using grub?
[10:11] <_ruben> yes, default 12.04 install
[10:11] <blackshirt> are using multi disk array?
[10:11] <_ruben> updated to 12.04.1 this morning (issue exists ever since installation)
[10:12] <ogra_> did you file a bug ?
[10:12] <_ruben> box has 2 disks, 2 partitions on each: small one for md0 for boot, and rest for md1 for lvm for rest
[10:12] <blackshirt> i think you need separate partition maybe
[10:12] <_ruben> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1020914
[10:13] <blackshirt> are you grun can boot md/lvm based devices?
[10:13] <ogra_> well, grub seems to get along since he ends up in an initrd ;)
[10:13] <ogra_> so kernel and initramfs are loaded and executed
[10:13] <_ruben> /boot resides on a seperate mdadm volume formated as ext2
[10:13] <_ruben> just seems mountall can't cope with it somehow
[10:14] <_ruben> current workaround: add nobootwait to fstab and mount /boot to rc.local
[10:14] <blackshirt> i thin you should treat your /boot not to use lvm/md
[10:14] <ogra_> sounds like a race in the initramfs scripts
[10:15] <_ruben> ogra_: how would that explain mount to work, but not mountall?
[10:15] <_ruben> (which is something i discovered today)
[10:15] <ogra_> no idea, but mountall runs scripted, if you run mount manually there is a lot time passed already
[10:15] <_ruben> if i mount manually, and then invoke mountall, boot continues (but in a odd state, as mountall keeps lingering)
[10:16] <ogra_> i would think assembling md0 takes to long here
[10:16] <ogra_> or mountall is to fast trying to use it ... as you want to put it :)
[10:16] <_ruben> i wonder why md0 would take longer than md1
[10:16] <ogra_> no idea, just a theory
[10:16] <_ruben> cuase when i end up in the recovery shell, the lvs are all mounted already :)
[10:17] <ogra_> yeah but probably not while mountall runs
[10:17] <_ruben> current wild-guess is some trigger mis-firing or something, as stracing mountall shows it ending up in a select() call
[10:18] <_ruben> friggin' plymount and all that :P
[10:18] <_ruben> plymouth
[10:18] <ogra_> you could talk to xnox in #ubuntu-devel, he is our raid specialist
[10:18] <ogra_> well, libpülymouth is needed for communication purposes
[10:18] <ogra_> poor mans dbus :)
[10:40] <KAVI> This Configuration Possible or not ?   1St server have a 4 core , next server have a 4 core and these 2 combine to another server its also 8 core its possible in ubuntu Server
[10:40] <KAVI> s
[10:41] <_ruben> KAVI: not in a trivial way .. grid computing is one way, but you can't just run arbitrary stuff that way
[10:47] <kavi_> This Configuration Possible or not ?   1St server have a 4 core , next server have a 4 core and these 2 combine to another server its also 8 core its possible in ubuntu Server
[10:47] <kavi_> how to configure ?
[10:49] <_ruben> KAVI: not in a trivial way .. grid computing is one way, but you can't just run arbitrary stuff that way
[10:50] <kavi_> cloud computing is possible or not
[10:52] <kavi_> I want to this configuration in cloud computing using ubuntu server its possible or not .that's why asking sir
[11:21] <jgcampbell300> is this a good place to ask some newbie quesitons about ubuntu server
[11:30] <_ruben> jgcampbell300: sure
[11:30] <jgcampbell300> i need a sub network for an experament ... can i use 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1 on the same network to seperate some computers ?
[11:31] <_ruben> usualy, yes
[11:32] <jgcampbell300> cool ... when setting up maas ... i would config a nic to my outside lan say 192.168.1.1 and maas to the 192.168.0.1 where all the clients will be when i get them set up ... is that correct
[11:34] <_ruben> well, things (can) go wrong when you want to do dhcp for both for instance .. and no experience with maas here
[11:35] <jgcampbell300> i plan on being static on the main lan ... i think i need to be dhcp on the cloud side dont i... for up/down scale ?
[11:36] <_ruben> sounds reasonable
[11:37] <jgcampbell300> thanks ... im gona have to go read up on iface eth1 inet6 ... never set that up befor
[11:46] <jgcampbell300> so can i use the same netmask 255.255.255.0?
[11:53] <Kartagis> I purchased an additional IP block
[11:54] <Kartagis> I tried to add them with ip route add 5.9.222.96/28
[11:54] <Kartagis> ifconfig shows me the same thing
[12:00] <_ruben> jgcampbell300: yes
[12:00] <_ruben> Kartagis: same as what?
[12:01] <zul> morning
[12:01] <_ruben> g'day
[12:06] <Kartagis> _ruben: what it was before
[12:16] <jgcampbell300> ok got a small problem ... network restart ...Failed to bring up eth0.
[12:17] <jgcampbell300> when i did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:17] <jgcampbell300> wonder if i should reboot
[12:35] <_ruben> Kartagis: ifconfig, and route as well, are braindead commands; use the ip command only
[12:35] <Kartagis> _ruben: I use ip
[12:39] <_ruben> Kartagis: no you dont: 13:54 < Kartagis> ifconfig shows me the same thing
[12:39] <Kartagis> [14:54:14] <Kartagis> I tried to add them with ip route add 5.9.222.96/28
[12:40] <Kartagis> as per the provider's faq pages
[12:40] <_ruben> that part is good, the ifconfig part is wrong
[12:43] <Kartagis> I use ifconfig to check if the IP addresses have been added
[12:43] <_ruben> ip route doesn't add ip addresses
[12:43] <_ruben> and for ip addresses, there's ip address, ifconfig is not to be used
[12:44] <Kartagis> hrm
[12:44] <Kartagis> what do I use?
[12:45] <_ruben> use for what? showing ip addresses? ip address
[12:47] <Kartagis> for adding IP addresses
[12:47] <Kartagis> do I use ifconfig?
[12:47]  * Kartagis hides
[12:48] <_ruben> read the manpage of 'ip'
[12:50] <Kartagis> hmm
[12:51] <Kartagis> it seems they have been added
[12:51] <Kartagis> I can see them in the admin page
[13:10] <RoyK> !ip
[13:18] <jgcampbell300> i need some help ... i installed maas-dhcp and it changed my dns up on the server i cant apt-get update now ... i can ping ip addresses on the net but cant ping www.whatever.com ... any ideas
[13:31] <jgcampbell300> i need some help ... i installed maas-dhcp and it changed my dns up on the server i cant apt-get update now ... i can ping ip addresses on the net but cant ping www.whatever.com ... any ideas
[13:57] <Kniggedigge> hi guys, can someone please help me? i dont know which packages to install, to get the required libraries for ./configure
[13:57] <Kniggedigge> http://pastebin.com/mFYsUEZm
[13:59] <RoyK> Kniggedigge: roy@smilla:~$ apt-cache search libavfor
[13:59] <RoyK> libavformat-dev - Development files for libavformat
[13:59] <RoyK> ...
[14:00] <Kniggedigge> yes i know, but i have to install a newer version and i dont know how...
[14:00] <Kniggedigge> configure: WARNING: Requested 'libavformat >= 52.110.0' but version of libavformat is 52.64.2
[14:01] <RoyK> Kniggedigge: then I guess you should look for a ppa somewhere, and if you can't find that, maybe resort to compiling libav* from source
[14:02] <Kniggedigge> hmm ok thanks RoyK ;)
[14:04] <RoyK> Kniggedigge: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 12 18:53 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so -> libavformat.so.53.21.0
[14:04] <RoyK> that's on Precise
[14:04] <RoyK> Kniggedigge: which distro version are you on?
[14:04] <Kniggedigge> 11.4
[14:05] <RoyK> better upgrade, then
[14:05] <Kniggedigge> hmm so theres no other way to install bino?
[14:05] <Kniggedigge> :(
[14:05] <RoyK> run do-release-upgrade to take it to 11.10 and then another time to take it to 12.04
[14:06] <yeats> !info libavformat-dev
[14:06] <RoyK> Kniggedigge: you can install packages from newer distros, but it's not very clean. also, 11.04 has less than two months left of its support. better upgrade...
[14:06] <Kniggedigge> yeah well then I'm getting into bigger trouble ;)
[14:06] <RoyK> Kniggedigge: 12.04 is LTS, so 5 years support
[14:07] <jgcampbell300> ok another newb question comeing at ya ... i edited /etc/resolv.conf ... now how do i reload it
[14:07] <RoyK> jgcampbell300: no need
[14:10] <jgcampbell300> RoyK: ya just saw that on google ... thanks tho ... hmm do you know of any place i would be haveing issuses .. i installed maas-dhcp ... changed the resolv.conf back to my isps dns ... maybe there is another place to change it
[14:11] <jgcampbell300> woo hoo ... nm .. got it
[14:11] <jgcampbell300> was pinging a bad address .. thanks guys ... gota go to work
[14:11] <RoyK> jgcampbell300: keep in mind that if dns servers are set in /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf may (read: will) be overwritten
[14:12] <jgcampbell300> RoyK: ya i was looking for the interfaces but theres nothing in there about dns .. i need to resetup my eth0 for maas but will have to wait till i get back
[14:12] <jgcampbell300> RoyK: at least i can update it now
[14:12] <jgcampbell300> RoyK: thanks again ... gota go
[16:04] <Daviey> adam_g: Not sure i am a fan of the extra digit added to nova's version.  If multiple snapshots are required the same day, isn't ".n" suitable?
[16:16] <koolhead17> hi all
[16:55] <jgcampbell300> i have installed maas and am looking for the proper place to add a upstream dns server ... can anyone help
[16:56] <jgcampbell300> i have installed maas and am looking for the proper place to add a upstream dns server ... can anyone help
[16:56] <jgcampbell300> whops ... sorry
[16:57] <dormito> Im trying to setup an Ubuntu server as a samba/ldap domain controller (in a largely windows enviorment) Im trying to use the guide/documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-authentication.html however it seems that the guide is out dated/incomplete (or wrong, Im not really sure which).ATM Im having trouble getting settting up TLS with samba
[17:26] <arrrghhh> hey all.  upgrading my server, and it seems like my session died
[17:26] <arrrghhh> i had it in a screen window, and when i go back into the box it says the screen session is already attached
[17:27] <arrrghhh> nothing there.  when i try to apt-get install, update, etc it says something has a lock on dpkg.  last i saw there was a question about samba on the updater.  what can i do?
[17:32] <arrrghhh> hrm.  i guess this is why you don't upgrade over ssh :/
[17:33] <Pici> arrrghhh: then re-attach the screen session, use -DR
[17:33] <arrrghhh> Pici, the screen session is gone
[17:33] <arrrghhh> yet dpkg and samba still seem to be waiting
[17:33] <maxb> You just claimed it was already attached?
[17:33] <arrrghhh> it was
[17:34] <arrrghhh> i closed the session
[17:34] <arrrghhh> relaunched another one
[17:34] <arrrghhh> managed to get the samba screen re-attached
[17:34] <arrrghhh> i was comparing the configs, and the screen went all wonky.  so i hit ctrl-c
[17:34] <arrrghhh> i thought that would kill it, but it seems it's still running "somewhere"
[17:35] <arrrghhh> /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst seems to still be running when i lsof |grep dpkg
[17:38] <arrrghhh> maxb, Pici ?
[17:56] <arrrghhh> should i just reboot the server at this point?
[17:56] <arrrghhh> not sure where to go with it...
[17:57] <jgcampbell300> can anyone here tell me where to add two dns addresses on ubuntu 12.04 with maas and mass-dhcp ... there is some dynamic resolv happening and i dont want to put it in the wrong place ... i read there is prepend domain-name-servers some where but cant find it
[18:00] <Vampy> does any one have a guide/howto setup a MAAS server behind a DHCP enable router that still PXE boots the nodes?
[18:00] <jgcampbell300> i just found this /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf there is a commited out like #prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; would i be safe adding prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8, 127.0.0.1, x.x.x.x; ?
[18:00] <jgcampbell300>  
[18:01] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: im accualy working on that now ... with a few problems but seems to be working so far ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/AddNodes
[18:01] <Vampy> jgcampbell300, i'm on the step behind you..
[18:03] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: mine seems to be working so far ... i just cant get my dns to stay put ... it keeps changing resolv.conf to nameserver 127.0.0.1 and i need it to go to an outside dns for things it dosnt know about
[18:03] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: do you have two nic's in your controler and a switch between controler and nodes
[18:04] <Vampy> currently, no but a second nic and switch would be easy to get to
[18:04] <Vampy> assumin the box has room for another card.. i've looked inside for a few months now
[18:06] <Vampy> jgcampbell300, you are suggestion that i use 2 nics and a switch, would you say that bridging the nic's in the controller is best?
[18:07] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: im not totaly sure accualy ... from what i have read there are like 50 ways to set it up ... but i didnt want any of my cloud jacking with the rest of my network so i used the two nic's in my server to seperate everything
[18:08] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: im just trying to learn all i can about these systems
[18:09] <jgcampbell300> i have been haveing a heck of a time getting anyone on irc that can help me with this ... was thinking about looking for a maas channel
[18:10] <Vampy> wait.. i've got a theory here.
[18:11] <Vampy> according to your idea.... the chain would run as such.. router to eth0 (controller) eth1 to switch switch to nodes.. eth1 runs as a independent dhcp with new ip addresses to nodes only while eth0 prevides wan access to all ..
[18:12] <Vampy> eth1 would have a custom pool of ips that differ from the router (ie 10.100.10.1-254)
[18:12] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: from what i see yes ... im not sure yet but i think there may need to be a bridge at eth 0 1
[18:13] <Vampy> agreed or else the nodes would not have inet/wan access.
[18:13] <jgcampbell300> Vampy: ya ... my eth0 is set to x.x.1.x static ... while i have eth1 x.x.0.x with a dhcp server attached to eth1
[18:15] <Vampy> so how would you set the dhcp to run totally on eth1?
[18:15] <Vampy> dhcpd.conf?
[18:15] <jgcampbell300> what has been driveing me nuts is figgureing out where ot pu new dns addresses since there is a dynamic resolv happening here some hwere ... every time i restart or anything with network it resets it back to local
[18:16] <jgcampbell300> i am thinking so .. im reading it right now .. and thats the best i have found for it so far ... but just not sure at this point
[18:18] <jgcampbell300> i installed maas-dhcp and thats when dynamic resolv started happening ... i think
[18:18] <jgcampbell300> and i have googled a million sites trying to figgure out the propper place ot change it
[18:18] <Vampy> are you in a productions enivor?
[18:20] <Vampy> or are you like me , running it within your "home" to get an idea of what your doing before going mission crit/prod eniv with it?
[18:21] <jgcampbell300> all at home for now ... i need ot know how it works befor
[18:21] <jgcampbell300> just found a page that makes a bit more since
[18:22] <Vampy> there is a maas chan #maas im in there as well
[18:22] <Vampy> gettin a little info from dannf inthere
[18:22] <jgcampbell300> nice ... gona join there ... dont think anyone is home here
[18:42] <capitaninsaneoh> Im setting up backup to an external USB drive.  Should i format to ext4 or fat32?
[18:43] <capitaninsaneoh> Or Ntfs?
[18:44] <arrrghhh> capitaninsaneoh, depends
[18:44] <adam_g> Daviey: re: versioning. we need to be able to bump the version of the orig tarball in this case, not hte ubuntu versioning. im hesitant to add a point to the upstream version (2012.1.3.1), but maybe to the datestamp? ie, 2012.1.2+stable-20120824.1-$hash-0ubuntu1 , eh?
[18:44] <arrrghhh> if you need it to work with Windows systems, NTFS.
[18:44] <arrrghhh> if you are only using it on a linux box, ext4
[18:44] <arrrghhh> don't do fat32...
[18:45] <capitaninsaneoh> arrrghhh, I'm only using it for server backup
[18:45] <capitaninsaneoh> arrrghhh, on Ubuntu server
[18:46] <arrrghhh> capitaninsaneoh, if that drive is only going to be connected to that ubuntu server system, ext4 is fine.
[18:46] <capitaninsaneoh> arrrghhh, Yes for backup on Ubuntu server
[18:46] <capitaninsaneoh> Thanks!
[18:46] <arrrghhh> capitaninsaneoh, if that drive is only going to be connected to that ubuntu server system, ext4 is fine.
[18:46] <arrrghhh> np
[18:46] <capitaninsaneoh> Have a great day!
[18:46] <capitaninsaneoh> +)
[18:46] <peeps[work]> where does root mail go by default?
[18:46] <arrrghhh> you too
[18:47] <arrrghhh> peeps[work], /var/mail
[18:48] <peeps[work]> what sort of things send mail?  would a cron job with an error return code prompt an email?
[18:48] <peeps[work]> i see no mail
[18:49] <peeps[work]> arrrghhh, how can I set to send it to a real email address?
[18:50] <arrrghhh> peeps[work], you'd need some sort of a relay server
[18:50] <arrrghhh> smart host
[18:50] <arrrghhh> smtp forward
[18:50] <arrrghhh> etc
[18:51] <arrrghhh> peeps[work], https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/mail-setup.html
[18:52] <arrrghhh> that's if you want to setup the ubuntu server as the mail system
[19:32] <jkyle> I'm curious why installing the ruby interpretor pulls in x11
[19:32] <jkyle> anyone know?
[19:34] <arrrghhh> jkyle, is it a required dependency or optional?
[19:34] <arrrghhh> you can install it with --no-depends or something like that.
[19:34] <arrrghhh> as for answering your actual question, i don't know... sorry :?
[19:34] <arrrghhh> :/
[19:36] <jkyle> arrrghhh: drilling down to see where it's coming from
[19:36] <arrrghhh> brb
[19:43] <jkyle> looks like it's this dependency: libfontconfig1
[19:47] <jkyle> --no-install-recommends cleans it up
[20:42] <bitmonk> anyone have an issue with the installer popping up a dialog about grub at the end of successful, automated preseed installs?
[20:43] <gyre007> anyone here running rabbitmq on Ubuntu server ?
[20:44] <bitmonk> it happens for us on lucid, maverick, and precise (the only versions we use) and says something like "continue without installing grub?" pressing yes seems to work, but it would be ideal to not have to answer. ;)
[20:44] <bitmonk> gyre007: i have, what's up?
[20:45] <gyre007> bitmonk
[20:46] <gyre007> im curious about one thing
[20:46] <bitmonk> shoot :)
[20:46] <gyre007> how do I print out the configuration
[20:46] <gyre007> he reason I'm asking is that there is a rabbitmq process running on port 5672 but I've no idea what it is?im guessing ssl ?
[20:47] <gyre007> as the other processes I can see what they are from /etc/rabbitmq/rabbitmq.conf.d
[20:47] <gyre007> -rabbitmq_stomp tcp_listeners [{"0.0.0.0",61613},{"0.0.0.0",6163}]
[20:48] <CharlieSu> Is it possible for me to install 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.5 from Ubuntu 10.10 onto a 12.04 server?  I ask because there is a show-stopper bug that hasn't been fixed yet in 12.04  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/967410
[20:48] <bitmonk> what's its' parent process?
[20:49] <gyre007> sh -c /usr/lib/rabbitmq/bin/rabbitmq-server
[20:49] <bitmonk> and that process' parent is init?
[20:50] <gyre007> nope
[20:50] <gyre007> parent of that process is su rabbitmq -s /bin/sh -c /usr/lib/rabbitmq/bin/rabbitmq-server
[20:50] <gyre007> rabbitmq  6660  6659  0 21:33 ?        00:00:00 sh -c /usr/lib/rabbitmq/bin/rabbitmq-server
[20:50] <gyre007> second
[20:51] <gyre007> parent is: su rabbitmq -s /bin/sh -c /usr/lib/rabbitmq/bin/rabbitmq-server
[20:51] <gyre007> damn copy paste
[20:51] <gyre007> strange?it looks like rabbitmq-server is running in 2 instances ?
[20:54] <gyre007> I have set up ssl config on port 5671 by creating /etc/rabbitmq/rabbit.config and exported a path to it in /etc/rabbitmq/rabbitmq.conf.d50_stomp (export RABBITMQ_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/rabbitmq/rabbit") and on restart I can see 2 services listening now..one strange one on 5672 and second on 5671 (my ssl config) - both are listening in the same proces PID
[20:55] <gyre007> so Im guessin the 5672 is probably some default SSL rabbitmq stuff bitmonk?but im not sure?and even if it is how do I get rid of it ?
[20:57] <spartan2276> Can anyone help me to configure a DNS server using bind?
[20:57] <spartan2276> I have tried using the Ubuntu Guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[20:57] <spartan2276> but I have had zero luck in authenticating to the domain all I keep getting is Error code: DNS_ERROR_BAD_PACKET (0x0000251e)
[21:17] <skrite> hey all, if i have a mysql-cluster set up with two computers, and i want to add a third, how big a deal is that?
[21:25] <adam_g> SpamapS: ping
[21:26] <spartan2276> Can anyone help me to configure a DNS server using bind?
[21:27] <spartan2276> I have tried using the Ubuntu Guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[21:27] <spartan2276> 04:47:09 PM
[21:27] <spartan2276> but I have had zero luck in authenticating to the domain all I keep getting is Error code: DNS_ERROR_BAD_PACKET (0x0000251e)
[21:35] <SpamapS> adam_g: pong, sup?
[21:38] <adam_g> SpamapS: wondering best way to fix the nova ftbfs in proposed. the fix requires a new tarball. can we reject the upload to proposed and start over again, or do i expand upon that changelog?
[21:39] <adam_g> there were two fixes that landed in stable branch upstream on friday, so it would make sense to try to include those as well
[21:47] <SpamapS> adam_g: if another upload is what fixes it.. thats fine.. just use -v properly (the last version in release/-updates/-security) so the changelog reflects the whole change.
[21:47] <SpamapS> adam_g: upstream or in debian dir, doesn't really matter how you fix it :)
[21:47] <adam_g> SpamapS: 10-4, thanks
[22:36] <smw_> Anyone here know vmbuilder? I ran sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu -v --arch=amd64 --suite=precise --mem=1024 but now I don't know what to do
[22:36] <smw_> how do I find the image?
[22:36] <smw_> I want to install and start it
[22:38] <smw_> ah, found the image