/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/27/#ubuntu-unity.txt

jester_I'm having an issue with unity/ubuntu, whenever I select and drag something (an image, text etc.) the unity bar greys out and when it does that my cursor teleports to the top left of my screen.04:38
duflujester_: Sounds like you might have https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/104106305:06
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1041063 in compiz (Ubuntu) "mouse pointer periodically leaps to left and top of screen in llvmpipe session" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:06
dufluPlease comment in the bug report05:06
gotwigmorning06:58
gotwighttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses shows examples with Python 2 code06:58
gotwigPython 3 Code is recommended for Ubuntu 12.1006:58
gotwigrye: jo06:58
gotwigsomeone up for helping me to fix a crtical error in my scopes :-) ?07:01
gotwigIts becouse I ported my code to Python3 I think07:02
gotwigSaviq: hey07:06
Saviqgotwig, gey, wassup?07:08
Saviq...07:08
Saviq*hey07:08
gotwigSaviq: do you develop lenses/scopes?07:09
MCR1duflu: Hi. Should new bugs against Compiz be reported with the GLES tag, when they are new ones (after the big GLES merge) ?07:10
Saviqgotwig, not on a daily basis07:10
gotwigSaviq: haha ;)07:10
dufluMCR1: Only if you can prove it was r3320 that caused the bug07:10
gotwigUnity should be independent from Compiz07:11
gotwigSaviq: do you use Python 3?07:11
Saviqgotwig, no07:11
gotwigSaviq: so what07:11
MCR1duflu: How can I prove that, except that I know what worked previously ?07:12
dufluMCR1: Don't worry about it. I'll add the tag if appropriate. You can still log a bug and say it's "new"07:12
MCR1duflu: For example the 3d windows plugin now creates visual artifacts - it was working perfectly before07:13
dufluMCR1: If you really want, then create separate a branch of before (bzr branch -r3319 ....) to check the bug did not exist in 3319.07:13
dufluMCR1: Already logged: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/102420807:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1024208 in Compiz "[regression][GLES] td plugin has severe clipping/transformation glitches" [Medium,Triaged]07:13
MCR1duflu: Oh - you were faster :)07:14
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gotwigSaviq: do you use Python 2 ?07:15
Saviqgotwig, sometimes, is there a real question coming soon?07:16
gotwigSaviq: eh, dont you have heard, whats happening with python 2 in 12.10?07:16
gotwigNot recommended07:16
gotwigcouse you have to download extra libraries07:16
gotwigfor your scope07:16
Saviqgotwig, as I said, I'm not writing lenses/scopes on a daily basis07:17
gotwigSaviq: I am, too07:17
gotwigwriting lenses/scopes is not a thing, that you do daily, lol07:18
gotwigmhall119: hey, there?07:24
mhr3gotwig, lenses work just fine with python3, david already transitioned to py3 many of his lenses afaik07:25
gotwighttps://bugs.launchpad.net/onehundredscopes/+bug/104209607:26
ubot5Error: Could not gather data from Ubuntu for bug #1042096 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042096). The error has been logged07:27
gotwigmhr3: the wiki page seems not to use python 3 code for the tutorials07:27
gotwighttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses07:28
dufluCompiz release 0.9.8.0 uploaded! https://launchpad.net/compiz/0.9.8/0.9.8.007:28
mhr3gotwig, it's a wiki, feel free to fix07:28
mhr3although it's not even using python07:28
gotwigmhr3: so what07:30
gotwig"Full example" is missing07:30
gotwigbtw, would be great if someone could help me to package my app properly ;D07:30
gotwig I want to get it into USC07:30
mhr3actually that wiki page is deprecated07:30
gotwigmhr3: :D07:31
gotwigmhr3: do you know why alpha channel support for png images got dropped for unity?07:31
mhr3of course not07:31
mhr3why would it07:31
gotwig?07:32
gotwigI dont know07:32
gotwigBut you notice it as well, right?07:32
gotwigNo transparency in png images07:32
mhr3no07:33
mhr3kamstrup, ping?10:42
mhr3nvm, unping :)10:55
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jacobw#75584211:22
jacobwwhere's the bot?11:22
kamstrupmhr3: le pongue11:22
jacobwanyhow, #755842 is 'fixed released' in compiz/+milestone/0.9.8.011:23
jacobwwhat happens to compiz/+milestone/0.9.8.0? will it be released with ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.2 or pushed to precise-updates, precise-proposed or precise-backports before then?11:24
jacobwi want to deploy this fix as soon as possible within my organisation, will packages for the new compiz-* versions be built by canonical or should i appy the patches and build the package myself?11:26
kamstrupmhr3: nvm, didn't see I was unpung11:48
kamstrupawesomest word "unpung"11:48
kamstruptotally cromulent11:49
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mhr3kamstrup, cromulent indeed, mister cohen would be proud of you :)12:41
Mirvjacobw: Compiz 0.9.7 branch is the one that's in precise and will be updated. the first upgrade was delivered Aug 15 and should already be deployed https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-August/016991.html12:59
Mirvit together with the Unity SRUs (stable release upgrade) should contain all the necessary fixes to improve 12.04 users' compiz/unity experience12:59
Mirvthere is already the next Unity SRU in pipeline as well13:00
Mirvthe 0.9.8 on the other hand, is now in Ubuntu 12.10 development version with the omission of the OpenGL ES feature work, which is being tested during this week and then pushed in with the real 0.9.8.0 version number13:01
Mirvjacobw: ah saw your bug report comment, answering there13:03
gotwigCompiz on Vesa is slow13:05
gotwigwhy does Ubuntu use Compiz13:05
gotwigthis dirty window manager..13:05
gotwigdavidcalle: hey13:05
gotwigmhall119: hey, there?13:06
gotwigcan someone help me with my scopes?13:15
gotwigI ported them to python3, and now the results dont have images13:15
gotwiglp:lens-cooking13:15
gotwigI heard there is a nice new recipe manager out13:21
gotwigI should add support for it in my cooking lens :-)13:21
gotwigdoes anyone know how to make your quickly app translateable?13:27
bobweaverhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1169843/13:42
bobweaverhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1169843/13:42
bobweaverhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1169843/13:42
bobweaver!naming-unity3d13:44
gotwigbobweaver: whats up13:48
bobweaverhey gotwig13:49
bobweaverdo you know any thing about how unity 3d is going to stuctured via naming ?13:49
bobweaverI just overwrote the dash and unity core/common13:50
bobweavergotwig,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOacuIldM813:50
gotwigbobweaver: we talked time ago13:51
gotwigomg13:51
bobweaveroh I am sorry my mind must of slipped it13:51
gotwigin the video is my cooking lens13:51
gotwig;D13:51
bobweaver:)13:51
gotwigsexy13:52
gotwigloool13:52
gotwigbut not at my pc13:52
gotwigit works there13:52
gotwigwhats up xD13:52
gotwigit works on other computer but not on my own, lol13:52
bobweavergotwig,  need to make a preview page for it :)13:52
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bobweavergotwig,  look at your BBUS13:52
bobweaverDBUS *13:52
gotwigbobweaver: why13:53
gotwig;D13:53
gotwigbobweaver: do you use the cooking lens?13:53
bobweaverBut for real there needs to be previews for pictures and for cooking news ect13:53
gotwigI always wanna hear feedback, I get so little :(13:53
gotwigbobweaver: you know, I have a project site, I reported all bugs on my own, so ..13:53
gotwig;D13:53
bobweavergotwig,  yeah I am using the cooking lens that is my computer in that video13:54
gotwigbobweaver: you rock xD13:54
gotwigthank you13:54
gotwigbobweaver: do you noticed the last update? I added cooksunited, right?13:54
bobweaverno I did not13:54
gotwigbobweaver: since when do you use it?13:55
bobweaverlast night13:55
gotwigbobweaver: awsom ;D13:55
gotwigbobweaver: no problems ?13:55
gotwigbobweaver: I ported it just a few weeks ago to python 3, for ubuntu 12.1013:55
bobweaverhad to play around with dbus naming convention13:55
bobweaverbut that was my own choice :)13:56
gotwigI should add someday better filter options, there are no filter options at all yet..13:57
gotwignow I have 5 sources for recipes13:57
gotwig3 dynamic ones13:57
gotwigCooksunited.co.uk/cooksunited.nl/chefkoch.de13:57
gotwigbobweaver: do you know about cookety?13:57
gotwigwhat xD?13:58
gotwigbobweaver: btw, what are these coverflow effects? do you use the coverflow branch?13:59
bobweaverthat is pretty easy to use filters in the daemon file13:59
bobweaverYeah I hacked the coverflow file and alot more13:59
bobweaverI would have liked to have taken and made case statements or if statements or whhole new files14:01
bobweaverBUt I can not get a anwser from anyone14:01
bobweaverbut I think that some are looking at it atm to tell me (I hope )14:01
gotwigbobweaver: hm, do you like QT?14:02
bobweaverlol14:02
bobweaverI know a little14:02
gotwigbobweaver: xD14:02
gotwigbobweaver: http://grid.binarythumb.com/14:02
gotwigbobweaver: I wanna make a fork with QT. But maybe I dont have enough skill / time14:03
bobweaverI think that it is I will take a look14:04
bobweaverThis would not be that hard14:06
bobweaveryou want for harmony embed and desktop correct14:06
bobweavergotwig,  ^^14:06
bobweaverCouple of things that I would change on that14:07
gotwigbobweaver: it looks windowish-eightish, right?14:07
gotwig;D14:07
bobweaver1) twitter api and google contacts ,calender ,+1 ,shopping , Ubuntu SSO ,14:07
bobweaverthat a big 114:08
bobweaverXD14:08
gotwiga big 114:08
gotwig;D14:08
gotwigUbuntu One is soo proprietary :O14:08
bobweaverthere are other things also14:08
gotwigI am so sorry, to say that14:08
bobweaverthat is not ubuntu one14:08
bobweaverthat is ubuntu single sign on14:08
bobweaverhere I will show you14:08
DebolazIn the case of dropbox, is there really a strong need for an indicator? I know this strictly speaking isn't a Unity question, but if I were to design an application that behaved in a similar way to the dropbox client, should I provide an indicator for it?14:09
gotwigbobweaver: I said what I said ;D14:09
bobweavergo to my blog site14:09
bobweaverhttp://ubuntustreetteam.tk14:09
bobweavergotwig,  ^^14:09
bobweaverclick on login14:09
bobweaverthat is ubuntu single sign on14:09
gotwigDebolaz: what do you want to show with the indicator?14:09
gotwigbobweaver: :D I know14:09
gotwigits not even properly translateable xD14:10
gotwigwhat a shame..14:10
gotwigbobweaver: single sign one14:10
gotwigbobweaver: oh nice, I want to create a usergroup in the area of cologne14:10
bobweaverDebolaz,  createt it all then test then figure out the best for you14:10
gotwigbobweaver: but there is too little interest, it seems. lol. there live 1 million people14:10
Debolazgotwig: Well, it occurred to me that I don't really need to show anything. If one want to reconfigure what is being synchronized, one can start the configuration program like any ordinary program. It might be of interest to show if transfers are currently going on, but it doesn't seem like there's a strong reason to have this information available constantly.14:11
bobweaverDebolaz,  make a option to remove it14:11
DebolazIf a new file is transferred, it seems this information can be provided through the osd.14:12
bobweaveryes that would help and also if you can make it so that that can also be disabled14:12
bobweaverwhat if you are uploading small things14:12
bobweaverit would go nuts14:12
bobweavereachtime there is a transfer14:13
DebolazIt might just indicate on a per-batch basis. Ie, "I see 100 new files" instead of telling about each and every one of them.14:13
gotwigDebolaz: what you mean?14:14
bobweaverif [ "$size >=  100mb ] then; notify-send $message114:14
bobweavertalk about errors but you get the idea14:15
gotwigindicators are somehow deprecated14:15
gotwigor at least they should be IMHO14:15
gotwigapps should use the new unity icon things14:15
gotwigyou can show progress14:16
gotwigand numbers with unity14:16
gotwigdo it.14:16
gotwigthat is the right way, not indicators, for such stuff14:16
gotwiglook at brasero. Its disabled.14:16
bobweavergotwig,  I am about to make a whole new way that indiators are acting and look14:16
gotwigbobweaver: mockup?14:17
bobweaverDebolaz,  you are not going to just add this to like deja-dup14:18
bobweavergotwig,  nope still waiting on core devs to get back to me14:18
bobweaverBut there going to be in the dash14:18
bobweavercalender that I was making for the QT version is awesome14:19
bobweaverties in with google14:19
bobweavervia api14:19
bobweaveralso mythtv14:19
bobweaverwell myth service api14:20
gotwignobody knows about *nix14:22
gotwig:/14:22
Debolazbobweaver: I'm pondering making a sync client for ownCloud, because there are so many issues with the current one on Ubuntu.14:23
bobweaverJuju Debolaz  ?14:23
Debolazbobweaver: I'm still not sure what exactly juju is, even though I've read tons of blog posts about it. :-)14:24
DebolazIt's not been exceedingly well explained yet.14:24
bobweaverit is a service from what I gather14:24
bobweaver+114:24
bobweavertalk to jorge14:25
bobweaverthere is a juju channel not sure where14:25
DebolazGoing to http://juju.ubuntu.com/ doesn't really make you any wiser what it is either.14:25
bobweaverI tried to get a interview with one of them to put on my loccal radio show but ......14:25
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gotwigthe juju logo is so funny14:28
gotwigg2g14:30
bobweavercya gotwig  and yeah I would help make something like what you showed me today14:31
gotwigbobweaver: :-)14:32
gotwigbobweaver: next time I am going to work on cookety support for Cooking Lens14:32
gotwigbut it seems the author does not anymore care about cookety14:32
bobweaverI do not know what that is14:34
bobweaverbut if it is the cooking network that would be great14:34
bobweaverare you useing api or scraping ?14:34
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bobweaverping davidcalle  when you get a minute could you help me with a scope ?15:18
bobweaverhttp://imagebin.org/22603015:20
davidcallebobweaver, sure, where is there a branch somewhere?15:21
davidcalleis there*15:21
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bobweaversure I will push now15:21
bobweaverthanks david you rck brother15:21
bobweaverrock *15:21
bobweavertver bzr explorer crashed my machine15:26
smoserhey. so 'ive just dist-upgraded, running quantal today.15:31
bobweavertvdavidcalle,  https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/mythtv-scope15:32
smoserand 2 displays (laptop and external). having issues. the displays settings seems to not have affect on the launcher bar. it shows on both screens reguardless of setting.15:32
smosersame is true with sticky edges15:32
smoserand the panels will not hide despite the settings in 'Appearance'15:32
smoseranyone else seeing such things ?15:33
smoserreally annoying15:33
bobweavertvsmoser,  what is apt-cache policy unity15:34
smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1170056/15:34
bobweavertvyeah I have the same on e installed and am getting no troubles what is yu formfator set to ? auto ? '15:35
smoserformfactor?15:35
smoseryou'll have to dumb it down for me :)15:35
bobweavertvok15:35
bobweavertvopen dconf editor15:35
bobweavertvif you do not have it install it15:35
smoserautomatic15:36
bobweavertvchange to desktop ?15:36
bobweavertvunless this is a notebook ?15:36
smoserits a laptop15:37
smoserits just plugged into an external display15:37
bobweavertvuse desktop then but I am not sure that that is the trouble15:38
davidcallebobweavertv, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/mythtv-scope/view/head:/lib/mythtvapi.py your issue is here, findBE () returns MYTHPROTOCOLPORT, but if  results is empty, MYTHPROTOCOLPORT doesn't exist. You need to declare MYTHPROTOCOLPORT before the loop on line 32, MYTHPROTOCOLPORT=None on line 31 for example.15:38
smoserit doesn't seem to change anything15:38
bobweavertvdavidcalle,  you are awesome15:38
davidcallebobweavertv, no problem, and kudos for all your UbuntuTV work, it's impressive :)15:39
bobweavertvnot as impressive as the news lens and scope in the tv :)15:39
bobweavertvI need to learn more python or at least use it more often as I am a c++ guy soon though :) thanks again15:40
smoserwell, hti si smor ethan a bit annoying.15:46
smoserthis is more than a bit annoying (apparently i can't type)15:47
bobweavertvouch15:47
bobweavertvdavidcalle,  that did the trick thanks a ton15:47
davidcallebobweavertv, no problem ;)15:48
bobweavertvI now have mythtv in my unity 3d TV15:48
bobweavertvbut I must set up my mthtv backend better15:48
smoserso. after upgrading (quantal last week-ish to quantal today), i see the following issues:16:05
smoser * i can' make "auto hide the launcher", "sticky edges" or "launcher placement" work. it wont hide, appears on all displays, and i have that annoying sticky edges.16:05
smoser * if i reboot, i lose any settings that I set in ccsm (ie, keybindings for running commands and switching screens).16:05
smoser  this can also be triggered by logging out, logging in at console and killing any unity related process16:06
bobweavertvccsm unity3d arch nemesis16:14
antarusI'm curious why notify-osd doens't seem to allow hyperlinks in messages?16:34
seb128what do you mean?16:36
antarusI mean I want a notification with clickable hyperlinks in it?16:37
bobweavertvlinkaroo="http://ubuntu.com"; notify-send "this is a $linkaroo";16:40
antarusIts not clickable though :/16:41
bobweavertvyeah I am noticing that also16:42
antarusthe spec seems to not care about this use case16:42
bobweavertvI guess look at how notify-send is working16:42
antaruswell I assume it is just talking to notify-osd over dbus16:42
bobweavertvalso \n should also be new line but no workey16:42
antarusbasically I wnat to dump the gnome stuff and just do a browser plugin; but my co-workers keep pestering me to see if notify-osd can do what we want16:43
antarusit seems not though :/16:43
antarusunless I write an actual unity widget thing16:43
bobweavertv!bug 28084016:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 280840 in Gwibber "Links in libnotify bubbles not clickable" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28084016:48
* antarus loks16:49
antaruser looks*16:49
antarusahh now there is the problem of mousing over the notification hides it ;)16:49
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loklaandoes the unity panel support drag & drop?23:39
loklaanand i do mean the panel, not the launcher23:47

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