[04:38] <jester_> I'm having an issue with unity/ubuntu, whenever I select and drag something (an image, text etc.) the unity bar greys out and when it does that my cursor teleports to the top left of my screen.
[05:06] <duflu> jester_: Sounds like you might have https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1041063
[05:06] <duflu> Please comment in the bug report
[06:58] <gotwig> morning
[06:58] <gotwig> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses shows examples with Python 2 code
[06:58] <gotwig> Python 3 Code is recommended for Ubuntu 12.10
[06:58] <gotwig> rye: jo
[07:01] <gotwig> someone up for helping me to fix a crtical error in my scopes :-) ?
[07:02] <gotwig> Its becouse I ported my code to Python3 I think
[07:06] <gotwig> Saviq: hey
[07:08] <Saviq> gotwig, gey, wassup?
[07:08] <Saviq> ...
[07:08] <Saviq> *hey
[07:09] <gotwig> Saviq: do you develop lenses/scopes?
[07:10] <MCR1> duflu: Hi. Should new bugs against Compiz be reported with the GLES tag, when they are new ones (after the big GLES merge) ?
[07:10] <Saviq> gotwig, not on a daily basis
[07:10] <gotwig> Saviq: haha ;)
[07:10] <duflu> MCR1: Only if you can prove it was r3320 that caused the bug
[07:11] <gotwig> Unity should be independent from Compiz
[07:11] <gotwig> Saviq: do you use Python 3?
[07:11] <Saviq> gotwig, no
[07:11] <gotwig> Saviq: so what
[07:12] <MCR1> duflu: How can I prove that, except that I know what worked previously ?
[07:12] <duflu> MCR1: Don't worry about it. I'll add the tag if appropriate. You can still log a bug and say it's "new"
[07:13] <MCR1> duflu: For example the 3d windows plugin now creates visual artifacts - it was working perfectly before
[07:13] <duflu> MCR1: If you really want, then create separate a branch of before (bzr branch -r3319 ....) to check the bug did not exist in 3319.
[07:13] <duflu> MCR1: Already logged: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1024208
[07:14] <MCR1> duflu: Oh - you were faster :)
[07:15] <gotwig> Saviq: do you use Python 2 ?
[07:16] <Saviq> gotwig, sometimes, is there a real question coming soon?
[07:16] <gotwig> Saviq: eh, dont you have heard, whats happening with python 2 in 12.10?
[07:16] <gotwig> Not recommended
[07:16] <gotwig> couse you have to download extra libraries
[07:16] <gotwig> for your scope
[07:17] <Saviq> gotwig, as I said, I'm not writing lenses/scopes on a daily basis
[07:17] <gotwig> Saviq: I am, too
[07:18] <gotwig> writing lenses/scopes is not a thing, that you do daily, lol
[07:24] <gotwig> mhall119: hey, there?
[07:25] <mhr3> gotwig, lenses work just fine with python3, david already transitioned to py3 many of his lenses afaik
[07:26] <gotwig> https://bugs.launchpad.net/onehundredscopes/+bug/1042096
[07:27] <gotwig> mhr3: the wiki page seems not to use python 3 code for the tutorials
[07:28] <gotwig> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses
[07:28] <duflu> Compiz release 0.9.8.0 uploaded! https://launchpad.net/compiz/0.9.8/0.9.8.0
[07:28] <mhr3> gotwig, it's a wiki, feel free to fix
[07:28] <mhr3> although it's not even using python
[07:30] <gotwig> mhr3: so what
[07:30] <gotwig> "Full example" is missing
[07:30] <gotwig> btw, would be great if someone could help me to package my app properly ;D
[07:30] <gotwig>  I want to get it into USC
[07:30] <mhr3> actually that wiki page is deprecated
[07:31] <gotwig> mhr3: :D
[07:31] <gotwig> mhr3: do you know why alpha channel support for png images got dropped for unity?
[07:31] <mhr3> of course not
[07:31] <mhr3> why would it
[07:32] <gotwig> ?
[07:32] <gotwig> I dont know
[07:32] <gotwig> But you notice it as well, right?
[07:32] <gotwig> No transparency in png images
[07:33] <mhr3> no
[10:42] <mhr3> kamstrup, ping?
[10:55] <mhr3> nvm, unping :)
[11:22] <jacobw> #755842
[11:22] <jacobw> where's the bot?
[11:22] <kamstrup> mhr3: le pongue
[11:23] <jacobw> anyhow, #755842 is 'fixed released' in compiz/+milestone/0.9.8.0
[11:24] <jacobw> what happens to compiz/+milestone/0.9.8.0? will it be released with ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.2 or pushed to precise-updates, precise-proposed or precise-backports before then?
[11:26] <jacobw> i want to deploy this fix as soon as possible within my organisation, will packages for the new compiz-* versions be built by canonical or should i appy the patches and build the package myself?
[11:48] <kamstrup> mhr3: nvm, didn't see I was unpung
[11:48] <kamstrup> awesomest word "unpung"
[11:49] <kamstrup> totally cromulent
[12:41] <mhr3> kamstrup, cromulent indeed, mister cohen would be proud of you :)
[12:59] <Mirv> jacobw: Compiz 0.9.7 branch is the one that's in precise and will be updated. the first upgrade was delivered Aug 15 and should already be deployed https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-August/016991.html
[12:59] <Mirv> it together with the Unity SRUs (stable release upgrade) should contain all the necessary fixes to improve 12.04 users' compiz/unity experience
[13:00] <Mirv> there is already the next Unity SRU in pipeline as well
[13:01] <Mirv> the 0.9.8 on the other hand, is now in Ubuntu 12.10 development version with the omission of the OpenGL ES feature work, which is being tested during this week and then pushed in with the real 0.9.8.0 version number
[13:03] <Mirv> jacobw: ah saw your bug report comment, answering there
[13:05] <gotwig> Compiz on Vesa is slow
[13:05] <gotwig> why does Ubuntu use Compiz
[13:05] <gotwig> this dirty window manager..
[13:05] <gotwig> davidcalle: hey
[13:06] <gotwig> mhall119: hey, there?
[13:15] <gotwig> can someone help me with my scopes?
[13:15] <gotwig> I ported them to python3, and now the results dont have images
[13:15] <gotwig> lp:lens-cooking
[13:21] <gotwig> I heard there is a nice new recipe manager out
[13:21] <gotwig> I should add support for it in my cooking lens :-)
[13:27] <gotwig> does anyone know how to make your quickly app translateable?
[13:42] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169843/
[13:42] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169843/
[13:42] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169843/
[13:44] <bobweaver> !naming-unity3d
[13:48] <gotwig> bobweaver: whats up
[13:49] <bobweaver> hey gotwig
[13:49] <bobweaver> do you know any thing about how unity 3d is going to stuctured via naming ?
[13:50] <bobweaver> I just overwrote the dash and unity core/common
[13:50] <bobweaver> gotwig,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOacuIldM8
[13:51] <gotwig> bobweaver: we talked time ago
[13:51] <gotwig> omg
[13:51] <bobweaver> oh I am sorry my mind must of slipped it
[13:51] <gotwig> in the video is my cooking lens
[13:51] <gotwig> ;D
[13:51] <bobweaver> :)
[13:52] <gotwig> sexy
[13:52] <gotwig> loool
[13:52] <gotwig> but not at my pc
[13:52] <gotwig> it works there
[13:52] <gotwig> whats up xD
[13:52] <gotwig> it works on other computer but not on my own, lol
[13:52] <bobweaver> gotwig,  need to make a preview page for it :)
[13:52] <bobweaver> gotwig,  look at your BBUS
[13:52] <bobweaver> DBUS *
[13:53] <gotwig> bobweaver: why
[13:53] <gotwig> ;D
[13:53] <gotwig> bobweaver: do you use the cooking lens?
[13:53] <bobweaver> But for real there needs to be previews for pictures and for cooking news ect
[13:53] <gotwig> I always wanna hear feedback, I get so little :(
[13:53] <gotwig> bobweaver: you know, I have a project site, I reported all bugs on my own, so ..
[13:53] <gotwig> ;D
[13:54] <bobweaver> gotwig,  yeah I am using the cooking lens that is my computer in that video
[13:54] <gotwig> bobweaver: you rock xD
[13:54] <gotwig> thank you
[13:54] <gotwig> bobweaver: do you noticed the last update? I added cooksunited, right?
[13:54] <bobweaver> no I did not
[13:55] <gotwig> bobweaver: since when do you use it?
[13:55] <bobweaver> last night
[13:55] <gotwig> bobweaver: awsom ;D
[13:55] <gotwig> bobweaver: no problems ?
[13:55] <gotwig> bobweaver: I ported it just a few weeks ago to python 3, for ubuntu 12.10
[13:55] <bobweaver> had to play around with dbus naming convention
[13:56] <bobweaver> but that was my own choice :)
[13:57] <gotwig> I should add someday better filter options, there are no filter options at all yet..
[13:57] <gotwig> now I have 5 sources for recipes
[13:57] <gotwig> 3 dynamic ones
[13:57] <gotwig> Cooksunited.co.uk/cooksunited.nl/chefkoch.de
[13:57] <gotwig> bobweaver: do you know about cookety?
[13:58] <gotwig> what xD?
[13:59] <gotwig> bobweaver: btw, what are these coverflow effects? do you use the coverflow branch?
[13:59] <bobweaver> that is pretty easy to use filters in the daemon file
[13:59] <bobweaver> Yeah I hacked the coverflow file and alot more
[14:01] <bobweaver> I would have liked to have taken and made case statements or if statements or whhole new files
[14:01] <bobweaver> BUt I can not get a anwser from anyone
[14:01] <bobweaver> but I think that some are looking at it atm to tell me (I hope )
[14:02] <gotwig> bobweaver: hm, do you like QT?
[14:02] <bobweaver> lol
[14:02] <bobweaver> I know a little
[14:02] <gotwig> bobweaver: xD
[14:02] <gotwig> bobweaver: http://grid.binarythumb.com/
[14:03] <gotwig> bobweaver: I wanna make a fork with QT. But maybe I dont have enough skill / time
[14:04] <bobweaver> I think that it is I will take a look
[14:06] <bobweaver> This would not be that hard
[14:06] <bobweaver> you want for harmony embed and desktop correct
[14:06] <bobweaver> gotwig,  ^^
[14:07] <bobweaver> Couple of things that I would change on that
[14:07] <gotwig> bobweaver: it looks windowish-eightish, right?
[14:07] <gotwig> ;D
[14:07] <bobweaver> 1) twitter api and google contacts ,calender ,+1 ,shopping , Ubuntu SSO ,
[14:08] <bobweaver> that a big 1
[14:08] <bobweaver> XD
[14:08] <gotwig> a big 1
[14:08] <gotwig> ;D
[14:08] <gotwig> Ubuntu One is soo proprietary :O
[14:08] <bobweaver> there are other things also
[14:08] <gotwig> I am so sorry, to say that
[14:08] <bobweaver> that is not ubuntu one
[14:08] <bobweaver> that is ubuntu single sign on
[14:08] <bobweaver> here I will show you
[14:09] <Debolaz> In the case of dropbox, is there really a strong need for an indicator? I know this strictly speaking isn't a Unity question, but if I were to design an application that behaved in a similar way to the dropbox client, should I provide an indicator for it?
[14:09] <gotwig> bobweaver: I said what I said ;D
[14:09] <bobweaver> go to my blog site
[14:09] <bobweaver> http://ubuntustreetteam.tk
[14:09] <bobweaver> gotwig,  ^^
[14:09] <bobweaver> click on login
[14:09] <bobweaver> that is ubuntu single sign on
[14:09] <gotwig> Debolaz: what do you want to show with the indicator?
[14:09] <gotwig> bobweaver: :D I know
[14:10] <gotwig> its not even properly translateable xD
[14:10] <gotwig> what a shame..
[14:10] <gotwig> bobweaver: single sign one
[14:10] <gotwig> bobweaver: oh nice, I want to create a usergroup in the area of cologne
[14:10] <bobweaver> Debolaz,  createt it all then test then figure out the best for you
[14:10] <gotwig> bobweaver: but there is too little interest, it seems. lol. there live 1 million people
[14:11] <Debolaz> gotwig: Well, it occurred to me that I don't really need to show anything. If one want to reconfigure what is being synchronized, one can start the configuration program like any ordinary program. It might be of interest to show if transfers are currently going on, but it doesn't seem like there's a strong reason to have this information available constantly.
[14:11] <bobweaver> Debolaz,  make a option to remove it
[14:12] <Debolaz> If a new file is transferred, it seems this information can be provided through the osd.
[14:12] <bobweaver> yes that would help and also if you can make it so that that can also be disabled
[14:12] <bobweaver> what if you are uploading small things
[14:12] <bobweaver> it would go nuts
[14:13] <bobweaver> eachtime there is a transfer
[14:13] <Debolaz> It might just indicate on a per-batch basis. Ie, "I see 100 new files" instead of telling about each and every one of them.
[14:14] <gotwig> Debolaz: what you mean?
[14:14] <bobweaver> if [ "$size >=  100mb ] then; notify-send $message1
[14:15] <bobweaver> talk about errors but you get the idea
[14:15] <gotwig> indicators are somehow deprecated
[14:15] <gotwig> or at least they should be IMHO
[14:15] <gotwig> apps should use the new unity icon things
[14:16] <gotwig> you can show progress
[14:16] <gotwig> and numbers with unity
[14:16] <gotwig> do it.
[14:16] <gotwig> that is the right way, not indicators, for such stuff
[14:16] <gotwig> look at brasero. Its disabled.
[14:16] <bobweaver> gotwig,  I am about to make a whole new way that indiators are acting and look
[14:17] <gotwig> bobweaver: mockup?
[14:18] <bobweaver> Debolaz,  you are not going to just add this to like deja-dup
[14:18] <bobweaver> gotwig,  nope still waiting on core devs to get back to me
[14:18] <bobweaver> But there going to be in the dash
[14:19] <bobweaver> calender that I was making for the QT version is awesome
[14:19] <bobweaver> ties in with google
[14:19] <bobweaver> via api
[14:19] <bobweaver> also mythtv
[14:20] <bobweaver> well myth service api
[14:22] <gotwig> nobody knows about *nix
[14:22] <gotwig> :/
[14:23] <Debolaz> bobweaver: I'm pondering making a sync client for ownCloud, because there are so many issues with the current one on Ubuntu.
[14:23] <bobweaver> Juju Debolaz  ?
[14:24] <Debolaz> bobweaver: I'm still not sure what exactly juju is, even though I've read tons of blog posts about it. :-)
[14:24] <Debolaz> It's not been exceedingly well explained yet.
[14:24] <bobweaver> it is a service from what I gather
[14:24] <bobweaver> +1
[14:25] <bobweaver> talk to jorge
[14:25] <bobweaver> there is a juju channel not sure where
[14:25] <Debolaz> Going to http://juju.ubuntu.com/ doesn't really make you any wiser what it is either.
[14:25] <bobweaver> I tried to get a interview with one of them to put on my loccal radio show but ......
[14:28] <gotwig> the juju logo is so funny
[14:30] <gotwig> g2g
[14:31] <bobweaver> cya gotwig  and yeah I would help make something like what you showed me today
[14:32] <gotwig> bobweaver: :-)
[14:32] <gotwig> bobweaver: next time I am going to work on cookety support for Cooking Lens
[14:32] <gotwig> but it seems the author does not anymore care about cookety
[14:34] <bobweaver> I do not know what that is
[14:34] <bobweaver> but if it is the cooking network that would be great
[14:34] <bobweaver> are you useing api or scraping ?
[15:18] <bobweaver> ping davidcalle  when you get a minute could you help me with a scope ?
[15:20] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/226030
[15:21] <davidcalle> bobweaver, sure, where is there a branch somewhere?
[15:21] <davidcalle> is there*
[15:21] <bobweaver> sure I will push now
[15:21] <bobweaver> thanks david you rck brother
[15:21] <bobweaver> rock *
[15:26] <bobweavertv> er bzr explorer crashed my machine
[15:31] <smoser> hey. so 'ive just dist-upgraded, running quantal today.
[15:32] <bobweavertv> davidcalle,  https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/mythtv-scope
[15:32] <smoser> and 2 displays (laptop and external). having issues. the displays settings seems to not have affect on the launcher bar. it shows on both screens reguardless of setting.
[15:32] <smoser> same is true with sticky edges
[15:32] <smoser> and the panels will not hide despite the settings in 'Appearance'
[15:33] <smoser> anyone else seeing such things ?
[15:33] <smoser> really annoying
[15:34] <bobweavertv> smoser,  what is apt-cache policy unity
[15:34] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170056/
[15:35] <bobweavertv> yeah I have the same on e installed and am getting no troubles what is yu formfator set to ? auto ? '
[15:35] <smoser> formfactor?
[15:35] <smoser> you'll have to dumb it down for me :)
[15:35] <bobweavertv> ok
[15:35] <bobweavertv> open dconf editor
[15:35] <bobweavertv> if you do not have it install it
[15:36] <smoser> automatic
[15:36] <bobweavertv> change to desktop ?
[15:36] <bobweavertv> unless this is a notebook ?
[15:37] <smoser> its a laptop
[15:37] <smoser> its just plugged into an external display
[15:38] <bobweavertv> use desktop then but I am not sure that that is the trouble
[15:38] <davidcalle> bobweavertv, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/mythtv-scope/view/head:/lib/mythtvapi.py your issue is here, findBE () returns MYTHPROTOCOLPORT, but if  results is empty, MYTHPROTOCOLPORT doesn't exist. You need to declare MYTHPROTOCOLPORT before the loop on line 32, MYTHPROTOCOLPORT=None on line 31 for example.
[15:38] <smoser> it doesn't seem to change anything
[15:38] <bobweavertv> davidcalle,  you are awesome
[15:39] <davidcalle> bobweavertv, no problem, and kudos for all your UbuntuTV work, it's impressive :)
[15:39] <bobweavertv> not as impressive as the news lens and scope in the tv :)
[15:40] <bobweavertv> I need to learn more python or at least use it more often as I am a c++ guy soon though :) thanks again
[15:46] <smoser> well, hti si smor ethan a bit annoying.
[15:47] <smoser> this is more than a bit annoying (apparently i can't type)
[15:47] <bobweavertv> ouch
[15:47] <bobweavertv> davidcalle,  that did the trick thanks a ton
[15:48] <davidcalle> bobweavertv, no problem ;)
[15:48] <bobweavertv> I now have mythtv in my unity 3d TV
[15:48] <bobweavertv> but I must set up my mthtv backend better
[16:05] <smoser> so. after upgrading (quantal last week-ish to quantal today), i see the following issues:
[16:05] <smoser>  * i can' make "auto hide the launcher", "sticky edges" or "launcher placement" work. it wont hide, appears on all displays, and i have that annoying sticky edges.
[16:05] <smoser>  * if i reboot, i lose any settings that I set in ccsm (ie, keybindings for running commands and switching screens).
[16:06] <smoser>   this can also be triggered by logging out, logging in at console and killing any unity related process
[16:14] <bobweavertv> ccsm unity3d arch nemesis
[16:34] <antarus> I'm curious why notify-osd doens't seem to allow hyperlinks in messages?
[16:36] <seb128> what do you mean?
[16:37] <antarus> I mean I want a notification with clickable hyperlinks in it?
[16:40] <bobweavertv> linkaroo="http://ubuntu.com"; notify-send "this is a $linkaroo";
[16:41] <antarus> Its not clickable though :/
[16:42] <bobweavertv> yeah I am noticing that also
[16:42] <antarus> the spec seems to not care about this use case
[16:42] <bobweavertv> I guess look at how notify-send is working
[16:42] <antarus> well I assume it is just talking to notify-osd over dbus
[16:42] <bobweavertv> also \n should also be new line but no workey
[16:43] <antarus> basically I wnat to dump the gnome stuff and just do a browser plugin; but my co-workers keep pestering me to see if notify-osd can do what we want
[16:43] <antarus> it seems not though :/
[16:43] <antarus> unless I write an actual unity widget thing
[16:48] <bobweavertv> !bug 280840
[16:49]  * antarus loks
[16:49] <antarus> er looks*
[16:49] <antarus> ahh now there is the problem of mousing over the notification hides it ;)
[23:39] <loklaan> does the unity panel support drag & drop?
[23:47] <loklaan> and i do mean the panel, not the launcher