[01:44] <pleia2> meeting in ~15 minutes
[02:01] <pleia2> hi everyone
[02:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[02:01] <pleia2> who all is here for the meeting? :)
[02:01] <jyo> o/
[02:02]  * eps waves
[02:02] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12August26
[02:02] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12August26 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:02] <pleia2> our agenda
[02:02] <pleia2> #topic Ubuntu Global Jam
[02:02] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[02:02] <darthrobot> Title: [UbuntuGlobalJam - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:03] <pleia2> so, once a cycle the whole Ubuntu community does an Ubuntu Global Jam
[02:03] <pleia2> we didn't really participate last time (I met up with ebroder at a coffee shop last minute, but that hardly counts :))
[02:04] <pleia2> this time I'm going to host one in downtown San Francisco, focused on teaching folks how to do ISO testing
[02:05] <pleia2> we're 99% sure we have a venue, but I am waiting for a confirmation from andrew_wmf just so I know everything is good to go
[02:05] <pleia2> then we'll announce it all
[02:05] <pleia2> a project page for the team is set up if anyone else around the state wants to plan anything
[02:05] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/QuantalGlobalJam
[02:05] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/QuantalGlobalJam - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:06] <pleia2> anyone have any comments? questions?
[02:07] <jtatum> Happy Sunday :)
[02:07] <pleia2> I'm doing a pretty organized jam this time around, but they can be pretty casual, we've done a couple that were at Bobby G's pizzeria
[02:08] <eps> Checking for conflicts ... well, you're scheduled against a Sumo Wrestling Demonstration: http://www.sfjapantown.org/Events/
[02:08] <darthrobot> Title: [Japantown San Francisco: Calendar]
[02:08] <pleia2> hehe
[02:09] <jyo> sounds good. I'll be busy that Saturday morning/early afternoon but I'll definitely drop by.
[02:09] <pleia2> great, I'm thinking of noon-4PM
[02:09] <pleia2> maybe 5 :)
[02:09] <pleia2> we'll order pizza around 1 probably
[02:10] <jtatum> For some reason I was thinking it was a 24 hour marathon. Hehe
[02:10] <pleia2> well, since it's actually 3 days it's 72 hours ;)
[02:11]  * eps can eat a lot of pizza in 72 hours
[02:11] <pleia2> but how long we can run a physical event it quite limited
[02:11] <toddc> stopped in to say hi!!
[02:11] <pleia2> (partially by the person running it, she doesn't want to do more than a 5 hour event right now)
[02:11] <pleia2> <-- she
[02:11] <pleia2> :)
[02:12] <pleia2> alright, well if anyone else wants to run a jam somewhere and has some questions, you know where to find me
[02:12] <pleia2> #topic Other upcoming events
[02:13] <pleia2> so, fates have conspired so that the next SF Ubuntu Hour lands 4 days after the jam ;)
[02:13] <pleia2> that's coming up on September 12th
[02:13] <pleia2> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1899/detail/
[02:13] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[02:14] <pleia2> I emailed Jack to ask if we are participating in the Solano Stroll this year, it lands on September 9th
[02:14] <pleia2> (day after the jam, yikes!)
[02:14] <pleia2> he has been quite busy, but has contacted them to see if it's too late to reserve a table, so we'll see where that goes and do a call to the list for volunteers if needed
[02:15] <pleia2> anyone else have anything coming up? :)
[02:16] <eps> SCaLE in six months?
[02:16] <pleia2> yeah, I know Gareth has been in touch with nhaines about Ubucon
[02:17] <pleia2> I suspect we'll have a table again too (I just hope someone else runs it, speaking and booth running almost killed me last year :))
[02:17] <pleia2> er, this year
[02:18] <pleia2> #topic Any other business?
[02:18] <pleia2> so, anything else?
[02:18] <pleia2> Mt View ubuntu hour the other night was fun, got to see jtatum, jyo and jledbetter (that's a lot of Js!)
[02:19] <jtatum> Thanks for coming, pleia2. If anyone in this part of the world needs CDs, let me know.
[02:20] <eps> Start burning 12.04.1 LTS ;-)
[02:20] <jtatum> Or drop by the next UH :)
[02:21] <pleia2> this is totally on topic because it has penguins: https://www.calacademy.org/events/sleepovers/index.php
[02:21] <darthrobot> Title: [Academy Sleepovers | California Academy of Sciences]
[02:21] <pleia2> one for 21+ coming up on september 21st :)
[02:21] <pleia2> I bought a tauntaun sleeping bag and all
[02:23] <pleia2> ok, I guess that's it
[02:24] <pleia2> thanks everyone :)
[02:24] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:24] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Aug 27 02:24:15 2012 UTC.
[02:24] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2012/ubuntu-us-ca.2012-08-27-02.01.moin.txt
[02:24] <jtatum> Thanks pleia2! Enjoy outside! :)
[02:24] <pleia2> will do!
[02:24]  * eps is more excited about Bacon (not Jono) Aug. 30
[02:26] <nhaines> Hmm, doesn't look like Ubuntu wants to install in a 64MB RAM environment.
[02:26] <nhaines> pleia2: taun-taun sleeping bag ++
[02:26] <eps> Is it all gooey inside?
[02:27] <toddc> ewww
[04:51] <nhaines> Yay, OCLUG mailing list is host to a debate saying that Evolution is not Open Source software because no one knows how its database is defined and cannot determine this from the source code.
[04:58] <akk> That would be a serious annoyance, if true. Evolution doesn't/can't use mbox files or maildir or anything?
[04:58] <akk> And "can't determine from the source code" I'm guessing means "it's crappy code and hard to read"
[04:58] <akk> rather than some kind of magic binary plug-in that implements the database.
[04:59] <akk> (that was what Netscape/Mozilla mail used to do, just after Netscape freed the source!)
[05:17] <philballew> Anything good in the meeting. I was busy traveling.
[05:19] <philballew> *meeting?
[06:02] <nhaines> akk: The argument seems to be that most peopel can't read source code, therefore it's not "open source".  He's pushing for "accessible source."
[06:03] <nhaines> I wrote a reply in German saying that the meaning of "open source" software was evident and did not depend on an understanding of specific code, just like the email was not "non-public" just because he didn't read German.
[06:21] <bkerensa> pleia2: if anyone will be needing some Firefox for Android Stickers let me know :) I should have a shipment coming in this week
[06:22] <bkerensa> they feature "Foxeh" from Japan :)
[18:34] <nhaines> pleia2: http://www.thinkgeek.com/eefd/
[18:34] <darthrobot> [R: www.thinkgeek.com] Title: [ThinkGeek :: Princess Leia Hoodie]
[18:35] <pleia2> ooh, they actually have my size in stock now
[18:35]  * pleia2 resists, tauntaun sleeping back already cost too much :)
[18:47] <bkerensa> pleia2: :P I know ThinkGeeks PR Firm I might be able to work something out lulz
[18:49] <pleia2> bkerensa: haha, thanks, but I'm saving up all my favors for the potential "send me to Ghana to deploy Ubuntu networks" soon ;)
[18:49] <bkerensa> lol
[18:50] <pleia2> lodging is covered, but the $1600 plane ticket is a bit painful right now (particularly since I'd be taking unpaid leave from work)
[18:50] <bkerensa> chipin.com
[18:50] <bkerensa> :)
[18:50] <pleia2> we'll see how things shake out though, still figuring out timing details
[18:50] <pleia2> yeah, there are a bunch of sites for it
[18:50] <bkerensa> I bet you could raise it if you blog about it with a chipin widget
[18:51] <pleia2> that's what I'm hoping, but we'll see