[13:28] <thafreak> what genius thought yeah lets get rid of desktop apps and switch to web apps...
[13:29] <thafreak> gmail in chromium is using like 7.7% of ram :(
[13:29] <thafreak> too bad not everything runs well in midori
[13:39] <thafreak> looks like firefox is the current least memory hog :/
[13:39] <paultag> yeah, lame
[13:39] <paultag> web apps are meh
[13:47] <thafreak> they'd be great, if not so ram hungry
[13:47] <thafreak> gimme a native gtk/qt/wx etc app instead
[13:47] <paultag> my internet is very spotty
[13:47] <thafreak> even python apps aren't that memory hungry
[13:47] <thafreak> that's even worse
[13:58] <thafreak> so, my code I wrote to catalog all my files...mainly to see how many duplicates I have scattered across all my machines...
[13:59] <thafreak> it seems very io heavy....mostly io wait time while running
[13:59] <thafreak> wondering if I should parallelize it a bit...
[14:00] <thafreak> would make it much more complicated...not sure how much faster it would run though
[14:16] <thafreak> nothing like downloading a single 500+mb binary executable
[14:35] <dzho> o.O
[14:44] <thafreak> you've never installed an open source project based on java?
[14:45] <thafreak> they package every single possible piece of software they may need and put it in a giant binary installer
[14:45] <thafreak> cause aparently only non admins install their crap
[14:46] <thafreak> and cause that's how you do it on windows...so that's gotta be the right way...
[14:46] <thafreak> i hate java based projects...
[14:47] <yano> me too
[16:39] <Cheri703> If I could get a desktop app that would give me ALL of the functionality of the web version of gmail, then I'd go for it. otherwise? I have yet to find a desktop app that meets my needs
[16:55] <paultag> Cheri703: I was working on one for a while, but I lost time
[16:56] <paultag> it was brilliant
[16:56] <Cheri703> I mean...labs functionality and everything...
[16:56] <paultag> yeah
[16:56] <paultag> I know
[16:56] <Cheri703> do eeet
[16:56] <Cheri703> I like the web apps because no matter what computer I am using, I can sign in and have EVERYTHING I need
[16:57] <thafreak> but you need a pc with >2Gb of ram if you want to check your email and do anything else on the web at the same time :'(
[16:58] <Cheri703> you can load the html only version?
[16:58] <thafreak> does it auto update and tell me i have new mail?
[16:59] <Cheri703> uhm, not sure.
[16:59] <Cheri703> what OS are you using?
[16:59] <thafreak> I might as well just have my tablet up as a third monitor just for telling me when I have new mail
[16:59] <thafreak> 12.04
[16:59]  * Cheri703 's phone is good for that
[16:59] <thafreak> on this pc
[17:00] <Cheri703> there are programs that are "gmail notifier" things...also I am running "desktop notifier" on my phone and computer, so any phone notification pops up on the computer for me
[17:00] <Cheri703> *desk notifier
[17:02] <thafreak> oh yeah...is that in the repos, or something external you installed
[17:02] <Cheri703> desk notifier is external the gmail notifier things are in the software center probably
[17:02] <Cheri703> desk notifier is via wine
[17:03] <Cheri703> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.elfsoft.desknotifier&hl=en has the download link in there for the computer application
[17:03] <Cheri703> it isn't the best solution, but it's a heck of a lot better than missing a call because I forgot my phone in the other room
[17:03] <Cheri703> I believe it's java based, so anyone who knows java want to make an ubuntu version? hint hint, anyone?
[17:05] <thafreak> screw java...i'm in an extreme anti-java mood atm
[17:05] <thafreak> alfresco is a pile of sh*t
[17:06] <canthus13> ....Nothing like going to power cycle your router... and finding it missing.
[17:06] <Cheri703> ?
[17:07] <canthus13> Cheri703: Just got a call...
[17:09] <thafreak> I hope they were calling because their internet was "out"
[17:10] <canthus13> thafreak: They were. I had her check the connections on her router as the modem was reporting the ethernet port being down, which usually indicates an unplugged network cable.... and the router was missing. now she's beating the truth out of her children, I Think.
[17:10] <paultag_> my internet box went for a walk
[17:13] <thafreak> paultag is now known as TEHTAG
[17:15] <paultag> I liked taggerdoodles
[17:16] <paultag> thafreak: so, I had ideas
[17:16] <paultag> thafreak: basically, I was trying to do what AMIs are for
[17:17] <paultag> thafreak: so, I think, I'm going to make a paultag-buildd ami, and use that, rather then this bootstrapping, apt-getting nightmare
[17:17] <paultag> only trouble is storing these will be like 5 bucks a month
[17:17] <paultag> bleh
[17:18] <paultag> I need a sponsor.
[17:19] <thafreak> $5/month? how big is your ami? 50gb?
[17:19] <paultag> 10, but I'll have 4 of them
[17:20] <paultag> I s'pose I could use 2
[17:20] <paultag> just for x86, another for 64 bit
[17:20] <thafreak> 10gb after its all compressed and split up?
[17:20] <paultag> I have no idea
[17:20] <paultag> I don't know what i'm doing
[17:21] <thafreak> when you bundle an ami, it compresses the disk img down and splits it into chunks and puts it in s3
[17:21] <thafreak> i'd say bundle one, and see how much space it really is first
[17:22] <paultag> cool
[17:22] <paultag> I'll do that
[17:46] <thafreak> grrr...wth man...i went to re-install this alfresco crap, cause I wanted to answer the questions differently
[17:46] <thafreak> and it didn't even prompt me this time...
[17:47] <thafreak> so I deleted all the files everywhere...did it AGAIN...still not prompting...
[17:47] <thafreak> POS!
[17:47] <thafreak> delete vm and start all over
[17:47] <thafreak> i really hate being a sysadmin...honestly...
[17:47] <thafreak> I think i'd rather a related job...
[17:47] <thafreak> like system engineer
[17:48] <thafreak> other people's software is garbage
[17:48] <paultag> all software is garbage
[17:48] <thafreak> especially if it's java...
[17:48] <canthus13> "What error message are you receiving?" "It ain't workin' or sumpin like dat.."
[17:50] <canthus13> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558170_10151129837142002_243904885_n.jpg
[17:50] <canthus13> McAfee broke the internet...
[17:59] <thafreak> what now
[18:00] <canthus13> DUnno.. but people with McAFee can't browse the web unless in safe mode w/ networking.
[18:01] <canthus13> I just refer 'em to McAfee. I'm not fixing it. :)
[18:01] <thafreak> why should you
[18:02] <thafreak> so I take it mcafee is one to avoid
[18:02] <thafreak> good to know
[18:02] <thafreak> i need to pick one soon for my in-laws
[18:02] <thafreak> currently using kaspersky
[18:02] <thafreak> might stick with it...might not
[18:02] <thafreak> considering uninstalling it all and just putting the microsoft endpoint thing on there
[18:03] <canthus13> McAfee screws stuff up pretty bad about every 2 years.
[18:05] <canthus13> Last time, they enforced secure connections... so much so that you could only access sites using SSL.
[18:06] <thafreak> which is good...as every website SHOULD be offering SSL
[18:11] <canthus13> Right, but since they don't, it's rather annoying.  I like HTTPS everywhere. :)
[18:39] <thafreak> if software stacks were people...
[18:39] <thafreak> java would be paula dean
[18:40] <thafreak> wait, scratch that
[18:40] <thafreak> java would be a dead body found in the ocean
[18:40] <thafreak> bloated...and useless
[18:45] <canthus13> java would be Paula Deen's cooking... lotsa butter.
[18:47] <thafreak> java would be what years of eating paula dean's food would turn any human into
[18:47] <thafreak> so yeah, java is to computers what paula deans cooking is to humans
[18:47] <dzho> there we go
[18:47] <paultag> fuck
[18:47] <thafreak> it will eventually kill you
[18:47] <paultag> end of conversation
[18:47] <paultag> stop
[18:47] <thafreak> PAULA DEAN
[18:48] <dzho> I knew we'd get around to making that comparison work somehow.
[18:48] <paultag> I will literally die
[18:48] <thafreak> paultag: is your middle name Dean?
[18:48] <dzho> less tasty, though.
[18:48] <thafreak> that would explain your deap hatred
[18:49] <thafreak> hell, even if it isn't your middle name, it is now in my mind
[18:49] <paultag> no
[18:49] <thafreak> paul "a" "Dean" Taggypants
[18:49] <paultag> I'm not saying I'm glad she has diabetus
[18:49] <paultag> but the world is likely better off
[19:07] <thafreak> any sql pro's in here?
[19:08] <thafreak> I have a bunch of rows, some of which have the same value for certain columns...
[19:08] <thafreak> i want to see just the rows that have the same values for that column...i.e. the oposite of SELECT DISTINCT
[19:19] <canthus13> meh. I suppose sql has no grep function.
[19:21] <thafreak> it has regex...but that won't help
[19:22]  * canthus13 nods.
[19:22] <canthus13> SO... select duplicate values?
[19:23] <canthus13> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2594829/finding-duplicate-values-in-a-sql-table
[19:25] <thafreak> heh, yeah, that looks about like what I was looking for
[19:27]  * canthus13 eyes thafreak. "The google-fu is weak in this one...."
[19:30] <thafreak> meh, I didn't really bother google yet :)
[19:30] <thafreak> my lazyweb-fu is strong though ;)
[19:30] <thafreak> thanks canthus-bot
[19:30] <canthus13> :P
[19:58] <canthus13> haha.  http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ywb5o/confession_time_i_spent_an_entire_day_resetting/
[20:24] <thafreak> did her bf call you for tech support?
[20:28] <canthus13> That would have been awesome. :D
[21:35] <canthus13> I think I want this shower... http://i.imgur.com/9Ajj9.jpg
[22:37] <thafreak> canthus13: is it golden?
[22:38] <thafreak> you would probably have to use specific kinds of soap/shampoo as to not kill the plant life
[22:39] <canthus13> thafreak: yep.
[22:39] <canthus13> thafreak: could be done, though.  It'd be awesome to have.
[22:39] <canthus13> http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/08/25/scientists-successfully-hack-brain-to-obtain-private-data/#.UDqu2AMOjoI.reddit
[22:39] <canthus13> that freaks me out.
[23:20]  * dzho guess fmri
[23:21] <dzho> ok, guess I should look at the link.
[23:21] <dzho> huh, not even that fancy.