[00:00] <Dr_Willis> if you just want to give up.. have fun..
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> Theres dozens of people that  use Optimus/Bumblebee these days.. now a year+ ago... well.. it was a huge problem
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting
[00:01] <hector> Dr_Willis, i`m a bit confused not sure if you can answer to this but.. i have a fresh ubuntu install, havent installed anything from nvidia. the only thing i need to install now is bumblebee then?
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> Are you really using an nVidia Optimus card?    and they give a command,,,
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> hector:  the install guides give like 4 commands to run to install the needed stuff.
[00:02] <hector> morely like 2, other 2 are for old ubuntu versions
[00:02] <hector> unless im mistaken
[00:03] <hector> yo Dr_Willis it`s a optimus card
[00:03] <hector> thanks for the site, now at least we are 100% sure it uses optimus
[00:03] <hector> lol
[00:03] <hector> ic a lil progress
[00:04] <abimael> PLEASE forgive me if this is the wrong place and forum to ask, but I recently started learning how to use ubuntu and metasploit, Do i have to be certified to be a penetration tester?
[00:07] <infinitux> can anybody help me?
[00:07] <LiDaR> abimael, you should learn how to use a computer as first step
[00:09] <LiDaR> !ask > infinitux
[00:09] <infinitux> uh yeah, I posted my question already
[00:10] <abimael> LiDaR: well I believe I Do know how, but for the sake of understanding, what do you specifically mean?
[00:10] <infinitux> should I post it again?
[00:10] <meganerd> infinitux: I just switched back to this chan, so I did not see it, it helps to repost the question
[00:10] <py_can> abimael: =D
[00:11] <infinitux> here's my output from k3b - http://www.pasteall.org/34728
[00:11] <mindcat> help, Xubuntu 10.04.2 LiveCD can't detect my sata hard disk!
[00:11] <abimael> py_can: ??
[00:11] <LiDaR> !k3b
[00:11] <infinitux> Okay, so I go to create an audio cd in k3b and it says I don't have permission, so I run k3bsetup and set the permissions, and now I get a message about how it's unable to create cue sheet or something like that. why isn't k3b working?
[00:11] <py_can> abimael, no you do not need to be certified, just know what you're doing
[00:11] <abimael> py_can: oh ok, thanks
[00:11] <py_can> o_0
[00:13] <infinitux> any ideas?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> infinitux:  make a new user and see... could be you ran somthing as root.. and now the user has no permissions to some dirs.. so id check all the users dirs in theior home also
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> infinitux:  how did you run k3bsetup?
[00:14] <infinitux> as my current user
[00:14] <infinitux> then when that didn't work, as root
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> and HOW exactly did you run it as root?
[00:15] <infinitux> sudo k3bsetup
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> that may be the whole issue then..
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> gksudo or the kde equilient for GUI apps
[00:15] <infinitux> okay. so how do I fix it?
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Id bet theres some dirs/files owned by root in your home.. find them  fix them
[00:16] <spagewmf> Ubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air. The touchpad is absurdly sensitive. I want to disable three-finger window moves. I disabled "Unity MT Grab Handles" in CompizConfig Settings Manager (those red circles) but windows still leap around if the touchpad thinks I have three fingers down.
[00:16] <infinitux> alright. i'll check the tree
[00:16] <LiDaR> chown !!! ftw
[00:17] <LiDaR> !chown
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> useing gksudo instead of sudo.. :) for the win.
[00:17] <SuperMiguel> how do i apply a patch to my kernel???
[00:17] <natsirt> Dr Willis: I do not like you
[00:17]  * infinitux is doing  find . -name '*' -exec ls -lSr {} \; | grep "root root"
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> natsirt:  complain to my supervisor i guess...
[00:17] <luftikuss> SuperMiguel: You better ask in #ubuntu-kernel.
[00:18] <natsirt> Dr Willis: is your 1st name Bruce?
[00:18] <LiDaR> natsirt, i think he should be fired too!
[00:18] <natsirt> Let's take a vore?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> 'ubuntu is not a democracy'
[00:18] <natsirt> Should we ban Dr willis?
[00:18] <AndAy> at least reduce his pay
[00:18] <AndAy> gosh
[00:18] <AndAy> ;)
[00:19] <natsirt> I don't like how you call yourself Doctor
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> 1/2 of zero is... err...
[00:19] <AndAy> lol
[00:19] <luftikuss> natsirt: Please use a kind language in this channel.
[00:19] <natsirt> You think we should have to call you dr.
[00:19] <natsirt> call me master
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> natsirt:  or my Initials are DR
[00:19]  * AndAy slaps natsirt around a bit with a large trout
[00:19]  * Dr_Willis waits for an actual support question.
[00:19] <Dr_LiDaR> natsirt, masterbate you are!!
[00:20] <el_seano> the troll.  you're feeding it.
[00:20] <W4sp> AndAy: :-)  mirc still around...?
[00:20] <AndAy> lol, indeed
[00:20] <natsirt> Dr's, go sleep with a bunle of sticks
[00:20] <Dr_LiDaR> i think Dr_LiDaR is a good name
[00:21] <W4sp> AndAy: I haven't seen that comment in a while. It's really the #1 for the platform you're on. Great.
[00:21] <natsirt> W4sp: Go kill yourself
[00:23] <W4sp> AndAy: ... and it's still maintained. :-)
[00:23] <LiDaR> too bad my aircard doesnt work with linux i sure miss using it
[00:23] <natsirt> Arp spoffong at the coffee shop?
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> natsirt:  do you have an actual support question?
[00:24] <spagewmf> I see other people asking for 'A way to disable the three-finger "move window"'
[00:24] <hector> Dr_Willis, ok, i`m getting started right now. added the x-swat ppa and the bumblebee one, but there`s nothing on the steps about installing the nvidia drivers before bumblebee, it just tells me to add the ppa.. should i install it or not?
[00:24] <hector> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[00:25] <spagewmf> Is there a channel for the Unity UI ?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> hector:  I tInstall Bumblebee using the proprietary nvidia driver:
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> looks like the bumblebee-nvidia package is the driver
[00:25] <hector> hm
[00:25] <hector> weird, but let`s see
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> makes sence to me
[00:27] <gseulorkucyffo> hi there. I'm trying to get unlimited bash history. I tried setting HISTFILESIZE and HISTSIZE to very high values, I tried unsetting them. both doesn't work, after each reboot history gets truncated to 500 lines.
[00:27] <hector> Dr_Willis, i think you`re right according to arch wiki.
[00:28] <meganerd> gseulorkucyffo: check your .bashrc file
[00:28] <LiDaR> greatest part about linux is the feeling of accomplishment after spending 4 days to figure out how to make something work!
[00:28] <hector> Dr_Willis, In order to avoid installing nvidia-utils as a dependency when installing the nvidia driver, you have to install the nvidia-bumblebee package from the AUR instead (which is the same driver packaged for bumblebee usage).
[00:28] <gseulorkucyffo> meganerd: check it for what?
[00:28] <meganerd> HISTSIZE
[00:29] <gseulorkucyffo> well, I set that there
[00:29] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: how did you set those values exactly?
[00:30] <easykill> hello. I reinstalled ubuntu on my computer to fix a problem with crashes coming out of standby, which i think was due to something i did. it seems to have worked, but my computer is crashing seemingly randomly now frequently and most bizzarely, refuses t boot from disk. i need to select my ubuntu flashdrive i installed from. it stores stuff on the main computer though, i restored a backup...
[00:30] <easykill> ...with my files and it takes a hell of a lot more than one gig. Any idea what is up?
[00:30] <lacrymology> hello, I write english, spanish and japanese, I was using just enlgish and spanish until this week I followed some guide and installed anty-IBus. Now spanish broke. Ctr+space switches anthy to japanese, Shft+Tab changes the keyboard layout to spanish, but the spanish "behavior" doesn't work (e.g.: ´a writes.. well, ´a instead of a an a with a ´ on top). Can someone give me a hand with this?
[00:30] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169021/
[00:31] <hector> LiDaR, the greatest part is when you spend a weekend and still don`t get it to work haha
[00:31] <hector> xD
[00:31] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: where is that from?  Your console?  Some file?
[00:31] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: .bashrc
[00:31] <LiDaR> time for food bbl
[00:32] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: and if you kill your terminal and do "echo $HISTSIZE", what happens?
[00:32] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: erm, start a new terminal after killing your current one
[00:33] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: 30000000
[00:34] <mindcat> help, Xubuntu 12.04 LiveCD can't detect my SATA hard drive!(that mean i can't install the xubuntu 12.04 to sata hard drive)
[00:34] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: and you say after a reboot, that value does not persist?
[00:35] <meganerd> gseulorkucyffo: is this a live environment (like a bootable USB or CD)?
[00:35] <spagewmf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport is out-of-date, it mentions Synaptic settings that don't exist in 12.04
[00:35] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: persist? it is set correctly after boot. but the history is truncated to 500 lines.
[00:35] <gseulorkucyffo> meganerd: no
[00:36] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: is HISTFILESIZE correct?
[00:36] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: yes
[00:36] <W4sp> gseulorkucyffo: did you try 501 or iterate the value to see when it breaks?
[00:37] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: can you generate a history now that is greater than 500 lines and verify it's saved correctly when you exit bash?
[00:37] <ji--> http://pastebin.com/J2SJRXtt Any idea where to remove wifi drivers from my blacklist? When I click activate it dumps this to jockey.log
[00:37] <ji--> 2012-08-26 20:30:08,382 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[00:37] <ji--> oops
[00:38] <ji--> 2012-08-26 20:30:54,750 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[00:38] <ji--> yeah that's what I get
[00:39] <W4sp> gseulorkucyffo: I would also unset HISTFILESIZE and only have HISTSIZE set.
[00:39] <RyuGuns> Hello, I just xkill'd gedit, later trying to start it up, it says "** (gedit:3956): WARNING **: Failed to call gedit service: Timeout was reached"
[00:39] <gseulorkucyffo> W4sp: no I didn't, but I will try. jrib: the file is currently 832 lines long, no bash instance is running
[00:39] <gseulorkucyffo> W4sp: tried that, also tried it the other way around. same result.
[00:40] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: so now the file will be truncated when you reboot?
[00:40] <hector> Dr_Willis, just an info.. nvidia-current is a dependency as it is downloading it now hehe
[00:41] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: I guess so, I did not check the file after boot, only the history command in bash. I'll check.
[00:43] <W4sp> gseulorkucyffo: I would only have either HISTSIZE or HISTFILESIZE. Try four digits? Maybe bash goofs up at 1023? Don't know really.
[00:44] <craigbass1976> I've got a ppc version of ubuntu on an iBook g4.  The broadcom 4318 isn't working yet.  I get a message during boot about it with some instructions, but they go by too fast.  Where can I see the message now?
[00:45] <earthsmurf> hello?
[00:45] <earthsmurf> can anyone read me?
[00:46] <W4sp> earthsmurf: Hi, I can read you.
[00:46] <earthsmurf> ok cool first time using irq chat
[00:47] <earthsmurf> there is a bug with ubuntu that i'm trying to find a workaround for
[00:48] <Troy^> when i run a .run installer and there is a liscense agreement and it comes to the (END) how do i accept it?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> Troy^:  tab and enter key.
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> and the q key to quit any text it may be showing.,
[00:48] <Troy^> hmm tab and enter didnt do anything
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> its useing 'more' or 'less' to show a large text file...
[00:49] <Troy^> ahh there we go
[00:49] <Troy^> thanks
[00:49] <earthsmurf> is there a way to hide disconnected messages in IRQ
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> earthsmurf:  its 'IRC'
[00:49] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, Oh, cool.  You're here.  Where are messages that go flying by at boot?  There are a few less things in /var/log/ than I'm used to seeing in 10.04 and earlier.
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> earthsmurf:  and it depends on your IRC client.
[00:49] <wjtaylor> Anyone successfully hook up an easycap to your ubuntu?
[00:49] <earthsmurf> using empathy
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:   cant say ive really looked.. dmesg Might hold them. but i DO belive you can hit ctrl-s and ctrl-q to stop/restart messages as they scroll buy during boot.
[00:50] <samthewildone> How do I disable sleep mode in ubuntu ?
[00:50] <samthewildone> I need to turn it off
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> system settings -> brightness and lock perhaps samthewildone
[00:50] <samthewildone> wonderful Dr
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Not sure what you mean by sleep mode.
[00:52] <earthsmurf> craigbass1976:  You need to enable boot logging, run sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd
[00:53] <earthsmurf> craigbass1976: Change BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[00:53] <earthsmurf> craigbass1976: then you can go to /var/log/boot.log
[00:54] <daninoz> is anyone here who use deadbeef ?
[00:54] <spagewmf> there's a #ubuntu-touch channel! Goodbye, thanks for the help :-/
[00:55] <W4sp> w
[00:56] <hermanlf> Anyone know why extras.ubuntu.com is down?
[00:57] <Troy^> what is extras.ubuntu.com have?
[00:58] <somsip> daninoz: yes
[00:58] <hermanlf> restricted stuff I do believe
[00:58] <redactd> it seems like the whole *.ubuntu.com domain is down
[00:59] <daninoz> somsip, do you know where can i get the mpris plugin? So i can integrate it with the sound indicator menu ?
[00:59] <somsip> daninoz: no idea
[01:00] <dwees> I have an Airlink 101 wifi card, which worked fine before I upgraded to 12.04
[01:00] <ilovenette> how do i share wlan0 internet to other pc over eth0
[01:01] <dwees> now it is claiming I am connected, but does not resolve DNS for anything, ping fails as well
[01:01] <dwees> suggestions?
[01:02] <daninoz> somsip, thx anyway
[01:04] <RyuGuns> Hello, I just xkill'd gedit, later trying to start it up, it says "** (gedit:3956): WARNING **: Failed to call gedit service: Timeout was reached"
[01:06] <IgorFreire> anyone here from Brazil?
[01:07] <W4sp> RyuGuns: That's probably due to your X server. If you logout and login it should work again. Next time use 'kill PID'.
[01:12] <imnichol> Anyone else having issues accessing ubuntu.com or canonical.com?
[01:13] <vamp774> @iminchol: nope
[01:13] <vamp774> on it right now in 12.04
[01:14] <somsip> imnichol: ubuntu.com okay here, canonical.com ok on 2nd attempt
[01:14] <imnichol> somsip, where are you located?
[01:14] <imnichol> I'm in Minnesota, USA
[01:14] <somsip> imnichol: Thailand
[01:14] <imnichol> Yeah downforeveryone.com says that the sites are both up, but I can't access them
[01:16] <gerrygprs> does enyone use cinnamon instead of unity?
[01:16] <vamp774> still usin gnome :D
[01:19] <hermanlf> imnichol, I am experiencing problems with them as well?
[01:19] <imnichol> hermanlf, what's your location?
[01:20] <hermanlf> Cali, US
[01:20] <imnichol> hermanlf, what's your ISP?
[01:20] <hermanlf> I ran a traceroute and the packets are dropping off in the UK, very weird.
[01:20] <hermanlf> Charter
[01:21] <imnichol> hermanlf, mine too
[01:21] <hermanlf> hmm
[01:21] <hermanlf> When did you notice the issue?
[01:21] <imnichol> Earlier today
[01:21] <hermanlf> oh ok, hopefully they'll get it sorted soon.  It's driving me insane.
[01:21] <imnichol> You're right, I see the traffic hitting ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net and then nothing else
[01:22] <hermanlf> yup
[01:22] <imnichol> That's obnoxious
[01:22] <hermanlf> very
[01:22] <imnichol> I'd call them and complain but I have no faith in their tech support
[01:22] <hermanlf> haha exactly, don't waste your breath
[01:22] <imnichol> hahah yep
[01:23] <Joe1> yo
[01:33] <Guest52284> hi
[01:33] <Guest52284> any girl here
[01:33] <fep> .
[01:35] <sin_tax> Is it possible to create a windows VM on a headless Ubuntu server that I can just RDP into?
[01:39] <SIFTU> sin_tax: yes
[01:40] <sin_tax> Thanks SIFTU
[01:40] <malcolm91> Hello. I am trying to figure out how to right click on my laptop.
[01:41] <SIFTU> sin_tax: KVM uses VNC to get console by default
[01:47] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, whats the prob
[01:47] <WeThePeople> watever
[01:51] <SH3WY> :)
[01:51] <SH3WY> Je tu někdo z CZ ?
[01:52] <trevorjay> Hello all
[01:52] <trolol> hello
[01:52] <Adie> GUYS, I NEED HELP D:
[01:52] <trevorjay> Can someone please tell me how to make dm-multipath stop marking the whole devices (of partitioned devices) as blocked for IO?
[01:53] <trolol> what you need help with?
[01:53] <trevorjay> I'm about to just rip the code out that does so, but I'd rather do this the right way
[01:53] <Adie> multi screen is not doing it right.
[01:53] <trevorjay> Adie: what exactly does that mean?
[01:54] <Adie> I am trying to get three displays to work, but they either overlay, or one gets disabled for some reason
[01:54] <Adie> it's weird
[01:54] <Adie> ANVE YOU EVER SEEN SCREENS INTERSECTING? D:
[01:54] <trevorjay> Adie: what gfx card, driver?
[01:55] <Adie> It's a 6970
[01:55] <Adie> I enabled all three displays via CCC
[01:55] <Adie> http://i.imgur.com/y2jrV.png
[01:55] <Adie> that's what I end up with
[01:55] <Adie> it's *funny*, but not what I want
[01:55] <Adie> lol
[01:55] <trevorj> Adie: sae card as me, nie
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: whats this picture of
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: two monitors?
[01:56] <Adie> 3
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: wheres the third?
[01:56] <Adie> :|
[01:56] <Adie> it's there.
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: how did you connect the three screens? Does X see all three screens? (ie run 'xrandr' and see what outputs it sees)
[01:57] <Adie> it sees all three screens.
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: oh shit
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: they do intersect don't they
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: that's a fun one ;)
[01:57] <Adie> It's display port native + DVI + VGA
[01:57] <Adie> http://i.imgur.com/L6qvn.png
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: which one is on the right
[01:58] <Adie> I try to correct it, and it errors
[01:58] <Adie> the one on the right is my VGA
[01:58] <trevorj> Adie: I figured so much!
[01:58] <trevorj> Adie: can you pastebin the output of xrandr
[01:59] <Adie> yes
[02:00] <Adie> http://pastebin.com/zUHaCvQQ
[02:00] <Adie> if my understanding of the error is correct, there is a set maximum X
[02:00] <trevorj> Adie: what error?
[02:00] <trevorj> Adie: and from what?
[02:00] <Adie> and I might be trying to go beyond that, so it ends up squishing em together
[02:01] <Adie> the error from the displays settings panel
[02:02] <trevorj> Adie: ah, from gnome-control-center's display applet?
[02:02] <trevorj> Adie: what error?
[02:03] <Adie> trevorj, http://i.imgur.com/GOplS.png
[02:05] <trevorj> Adie: ah
[02:05] <trevorj> Adie: do you have an xorg.conf
[02:06] <Adie> yes
[02:06] <rodan> hi rodan
[02:06] <trevorj> Adie: have you tried removing it?
[02:06] <trevorj> Adie: by removing I mean renaming it of course
[02:07] <Adie> >:U
[02:07] <trevorj> Adie: by removing I mean renaming it of course
[02:07] <Adie> okay
[02:07] <trevorj> Adie: have you tried removing it? ** is what I said before you quit
[02:07] <Adie> I will
[02:07] <trevorj> Adie: also are you using fglrx or radeon
[02:08] <trevorj> Adie: I've been loving the open source radeon drivers as of late with KMS and such
[02:08] <Adie> FGLRX
[02:08] <Adie> that's what ubuntu listed for me to install.
[02:08] <trevorj> Adie: fglrx is proprietary crap
[02:09] <zykotick9> trevorj: fyi "open source" ATI is still non-free, it relies on "propritary crap" firmware...
[02:09] <Adie> there are official drivers I should be looking for?
[02:09] <trevorj> zykotick9: I completely agree
[02:09] <trevorj> Adie: try using the radeon driver, it's free and already installed
[02:09] <Adie> how
[02:09] <trevorj> Adie: if you deactivate fglrx it will automatically be used
[02:09] <trevorj> Adie: also, rename xorg.conf
[02:10] <trevorj> zykotick9: does intel also rely on proprietary firmware blobs?
[02:10] <rodan> hi rodan
[02:10] <Adie> so you mean to say ubuntu will use proper drivers by default, and I should ignore the restricted/additional drivers listed?
[02:11] <zykotick9> trevorj: nope, intel is "free"
[02:11] <trevorj> zykotick9: good =D
[02:11] <trevorj> Adie: yes, 9/10
[02:11] <trevorj> Adie: and people say Linux requires so much configuring )
[02:11] <trevorj> Adie: ;)*
[02:12] <Adie> a sidetrack question: Can I both automatically mount my harddrives, and hide them from the unity launcher?
[02:13] <Adie> manual mounting is a pain for my music and torrent programs :|
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: just add them to fstab
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: that will do both
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: the reason I said to rename xorg.conf just so you're aware is because X usually chooses some damn good defaults
[02:13] <Adie> I don't know what fstab is
[02:13] <Adie> :|
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: /etc/fstab
[02:14] <trevorj> Adie: And many times people put a "Virtual $x $y" entry in there
[02:14] <Adie> also: this is kinda a jabby pokey mean question!
[02:14] <Adie> Is unity going to get better any time soon?
[02:14] <Adie> >_<
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: it's already getting better
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: did you see it in 10.04?
[02:15] <Adie> :/
[02:15] <Adie> It's like....
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: it's new, give it some time to mature
[02:15] <Adie> apple-fied
[02:15] <Adie> except...
[02:15] <Adie> apple gives you more options
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: plus there's a zillion other wms out there
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: you are free to use any of them
[02:15] <Adie> on my mac I can actually drig my dock to another side
[02:15] <Adie> lol
[02:16] <Adie> *drag
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: I'm sure unity will get dragging of it's dock
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: just give it time to mature
[02:16] <Adie> tell me about WMS
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: window managers
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: I personally use xmonad
[02:16] <Adie> I am going to be stuck with ubuntu for a while, but I am really really new here kinda
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: stuck? lol
[02:17] <Adie> for years I have tried ubuntu and always was reminded of the things I don't like
[02:17] <Adie> well, now I am learning to program, so we gotta make up and <3
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: ah, good
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: the annoyances I had when I first started using it
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: eventually all left
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: but they were really just differences I found
[02:18] <trevorj> Adie: not necessarily flaws (usually)
[02:18] <Adie> are there tricks to getting programs to work in WINE?
[02:18] <roobarb1> hello. I have two emacs frames open and alt-tab does not switch between them. I have to press Alt-tab, move to the emacs icon and wait for a while. (quite annoying!) Using "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS". Can this be configured?
[02:18] <Adie> I can't seem to get trillian to work
[02:18] <trevorj> Adie: apt-get install winetricks
[02:18] <Adie> ><
[02:19] <trevorj> Adie: tbh, you're better off using a native client
[02:19] <trevorj> Adie: there are tons of them
[02:19] <trevorj> Adie: have you tried pidgin?
[02:19] <Adie> not gunna happen
[02:19] <Adie> it's not just about me liking trillian
[02:19] <Adie> it has a protocol called "astrA"
[02:19] <Adie> it gives you cross protocol syncing between all connected clients
[02:19] <Gaming4JC> hey all, just did a system upgrade and I'm getting a toaster popup about /root disk space is full
[02:20] <Adie> I use trillian on a lot of devices, and anything else will break the syncing :<
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> any ideas what could be causing that? :)
[02:20] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: clean up disk space ;)
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> I got 1TB HDD, so I doubt that.
[02:20] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: df -h
[02:20] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: sounds like your hd is partitioned
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> it says... /dev/sda1             9.2G  8.3G  412M  96% /
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> :O
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: yeah, you're almost full cause you only gave 9.2G to your root partition
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: why did you only give it under 10g?
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> I used default ubuntu install
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> dunno :P
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: did you not overwrite or resize any existing partitions?
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> not afaik.
[02:21] <Nogal> Hey, how do I add a line to the login script to load thunar --daemon?
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: default is to use any free non-partitioned space
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: you can resize it
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> ok.
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> well my main drive
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> xfs
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> is...
[02:22] <d34d1ys1nz> I can't uninstall a program on wine - even tried uninstalling wine itself, it was still there - any suggestions?
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> 903.8 MB :)
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> GB*
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> heh/
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> trevorj: also can I view what's in my root directory that's taking up all that space (kinda like windir stat)?
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: use that app, crap what's it called.. one sec
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: baobab
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: but straight up, you need to give more space to /
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: and you didn't use default ubuntu install
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: otherwise you'd be using LVM
[02:24] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, rm -rf ~/.wine
[02:24] <Resinator> hey does anyone know anything about zorinos 6?
[02:24] <Gaming4JC> trevorj: boabab works great thanks!
[02:24] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: np, make sure you give more space to it
[02:24] <Nogal> testing something on my own..
[02:24] <Gaming4JC> ok, will look into it. Might upgrade soon anyways
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: for wine, to get more apps to run create wine32 setup
[02:25] <Gaming4JC> still on oneiric.
[02:25] <Gaming4JC> :P
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: I've even got ie9 running
[02:25] <Adie> hmm?
[02:25] <Adie> I dunno what you mean :I
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: wine defaults to 64 bit mode
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: nowadays
[02:25] <d34d1ys1nz> LiDaR: Didn't work
[02:26] <trevorj> Adie: problem is winetricks for instance only has URLs in it for numerous packages for 32 bit
[02:26] <Nogal> is there an equivilant of .xinitrc to use in xubuntu?
[02:26] <trevorj> Adie: make a script, throw it in /usr/local/bin/wine32
[02:26] <trevorj> Nogal: it's just that
[02:26] <trevorj> Adie: put this in it
[02:26] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, the program is still listed in some menu ?
[02:27] <Nogal> trevorj: what do you mean? I had to copy a version from my arch box's /etc/skel to get it on here initially?
[02:27] <d34d1ys1nz> Yes, I've uninstalled wine via the software center, then ran the rm command, and the program is still in the menu
[02:27] <d34d1ys1nz> but only the program that is messing up is in the wine folder, nothing else.
[02:27] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, might just be a dead link does it open wine when you click it ?
[02:27] <Nogal> The scripts included do not seem to run.
[02:28] <d34d1ys1nz> It says no such file/directory
[02:28] <d34d1ys1nz> But I needed to uninstall it so i can reinstall in hopes of getting it to work
[02:28] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, its deleted you just need to delete the link to it
[02:28] <Adie> this is a lot of information
[02:28] <cfhowlett> d34d1ys1nz: you gotta go into the wine configurations to remove the entry
[02:28] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, just reinstall
[02:28] <natsirt> sfw http://imgur.com/5NZv9
[02:28] <d34d1ys1nz> Okay I'll give it a try, thanks for the help
[02:29] <danny> any way to get better battery life with ubuntu on my old os same computer i got 3-4 hours battery now i barely make 2-3
[02:30] <LiDaR> danny, try powertop see whats using the power
[02:30] <danny> LiDaR: i have it installed how i do i use it ?
[02:31] <kkm> hi
[02:31] <kkm> hello
[02:31] <kkm> who all are there
[02:31] <Nogal> testing another idea...
[02:31] <LiDaR> danny, open a xterm .. type powertop
[02:31] <Gaming4JC> d34d1ys1nz: Might help ya out, back in the day when I was wine'ing a lot. ;) http://g4jc.christiangamemaker.com/wordpress/2010/09/how-to-completely-remove-wine-and-reinstall-it-with-working-menu-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[02:31] <Gaming4JC> kkm: hey there :D
[02:32] <yoof> hello
[02:32] <Gaming4JC> hi
[02:32] <kkm> can anyone help me in connecting to internet in ubuntu 12
[02:32] <yoof> i just installed ubuntu
[02:32]  * Gaming4JC installs evil adobe flash in a virtualbox...
[02:32] <cfhowlett> kkm: greetings
[02:32] <yoof> boy you guys have come a long way since the first time i used the OS in 2004
[02:32] <cfhowlett> kkm: you mean wireless connection
[02:32] <kkm> no , its wired
[02:33] <cfhowlett> kkm: but won't connect?
[02:33] <kkm> dynammic ip
[02:33] <danny> LiDaR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169158/
[02:33] <trevorj> Adie: http://pastebin.com/ZqVDY6mU
[02:33] <kkm> hey cfhowlett
[02:33] <cfhowlett> kkm: sorry, can't help with that one...
[02:33] <trevorj> Adie: there's instructions fo r 32 bit wine setup
[02:33] <kkm> what happend
[02:33] <LiDaR> danny, your usb ports are using all the power
[02:33] <kkm> cfhowlett
[02:34] <trevorj> yoof: yeah, it's become really, really nice over the last 15 years
[02:34] <Adie> :O
[02:34] <d34d1ys1nz> LiDaR,cfhowlett,Gaming4JC - it worked, thank you.
[02:34] <cfhowlett> kkm: yeah, I see you but know nothing of dynamic IP connections
[02:34] <cfhowlett> d34d1ys1nz: great!  have fun, be safe
[02:34] <kkm> its a dial up
[02:34] <Nogal> Alright, I've tried loading/editing a .xinitrc and a .bash_profile (each located at ~/) as well as creating a custom .sh, chmod + x'ing it, and adding it to my sessions/startup... anyone got another idea?
[02:34] <Adie> do I put that in terminal, or save somewhere, or open as a file? :x
[02:34] <danny> LiDaR: how do i not use the usbs
[02:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:35] <kkm> cfhowlett : u know anything abt PPPoe connections
[02:35] <yoof> i remember the first time i installed ubuntu, i was bitching so much in the forums about how inferior ubuntu is compared to windows and how nothing worked properly. now the UI seems much better
[02:35] <Gaming4JC> netsplitted o.o
[02:35] <trevorj> yoof: inferiority is a relative concept
[02:35] <trevorj> yoof: but I get what you're saying ;)
[02:35] <cfhowlett> kkm: sorry, man.  getting the broadcom chipset on wifi is the limit of my experience.
[02:35] <ciscbro> Hello folks
[02:36] <kkm> ok cfhowlett
[02:36] <cfhowlett> yoof: have you a support request?  If not, this convo is best continued in ubuntu-offtopic please.
[02:36] <kkm> thakns anyways
[02:36] <Gaming4JC> yoof: you can always go back to 10.04LTS and install XP Gnome, even your friends will think your running a rock-solid non-bluescreen of death version of Windows XP :D
[02:36] <cfhowlett> ciscbro: greetings
[02:36] <homecable> any one have a asus 1025c
[02:36] <Adie> brb
[02:36] <yoof> no need for windows xp, windows 7 has been rock solid for me
[02:37] <Nogal> anyone got a minute to help figure out how to run a bash script at login on xubuntu?
[02:37] <Gaming4JC> yoof: I think there was a Windows7 theme for ubuntu too, lol.
[02:37] <trevorj> yoof: windows period tends to make me feel like I'm lacking something
[02:38] <kkm> is there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection
[02:38] <trevorj> yoof: I'm so sick of analyzing bsod crashdumps
[02:38] <ciscbro> Hello, I am in the /dev folder trying to figure out how ubuntu sees the 4 usb ports on my dell laptop. I am trying to mount a usb to serial cable to a usb port so I can connect the console port of a cisco router - any guidance?
[02:38] <yoof> which version of windows are you using?
[02:38] <trevorj> yoof: name any, I manage it
[02:38] <yoof> i hvent got a bsod in years
[02:39] <trevorj> yoof: I haven't used it myself in years
[02:39] <Gaming4JC> trevorj: I usually end up installing bash on Windows to survive.
[02:39] <kkm> is there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection on ubuntu 12.04
[02:40] <kkm> is there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection 12.04
[02:40] <whereami> I just did a dist-upgrade from oneiric to precise. While it was installing, gnome-shell quit working. After it rebooted, lightdm starts in a bad mode, and keyboard and mouse don't work. What should I do?
[02:40] <LiDaR> kkm, is it pppoe ?
[02:40] <whereami> by "gnome-shell quit working" i mean it exited, but the upgrade continued without a WM.
[02:40] <cfhowlett> whereami: clean install precise
[02:40] <yoof> have you tried buying a wireless card that works with ubuntu and then it works and be done with it?
[02:40] <kkm> yes
[02:40] <kkm> Lidar
[02:40] <cfhowlett> !who
[02:40] <kkm> it is
[02:41] <kkm> Lidar : it is a pppoe and dynamic ip
[02:41] <Gaming4JC> whereami: I think I had a similar problem, ended up apt-get installing lxde until I could reconfigure gnome-shell
[02:41] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: lol, me too, cygwin is the shit
[02:41] <trevorj> kkm: network manager supports those
[02:41] <LiDaR> kkm, click the connection icon top right then down at bottom click edit connections
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !language|revorj
[02:41] <Nogal> testing another idea...
[02:41] <ciscbro> my last message was to anyone with the patience to help me out.
[02:42] <kkm> Lidar : ya , done that
[02:42] <Adie> I broke it.
[02:42] <whereami> Gaming4JC, well, I can't even get to console, since the keyboard isn't working.
[02:42] <trevorj> Adie: ?
[02:42] <yoof> i recall back in the day it was so troublesome getting my laptop wireless card to work with ubuntu it would have been cheaper for me to just buy a copy of windows, now i see hardware support has improved vastly
[02:43] <whereami> cfhowlett, will the livecd preserve /home? I don't think I made it a separate partition.
[02:43] <Adie> idk
[02:43] <kkm> Lidar tell me what to do next
[02:43] <trevorj> Adie: like, what is broken, lol
[02:43] <Adie> it wouldn't boot
[02:43] <Adie> now I am in recovery mode
[02:43] <trevorj> Adie: you mean X recovery mode?
[02:43] <Adie> maybe I can blame my fstab. I not too good at this :(
[02:43] <trevorj> Adie: X failsafe mode?
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: or are you in recovery mode selected at th grub menu
[02:44] <Adie> ya!
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: which
[02:44] <Adie> the last one
[02:44] <LiDaR> kkm, check and make sure the settings are correct
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: then how did you start xchat?
[02:44] <Adie> I recovery mode from grub, and told it to do something with fstab
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: lol, im just personally interested
[02:44] <Adie> then booted up from the recovery menu
[02:45] <trevorj> Adie: ah
[02:45] <trevorj> Adie: pastebin your fstab for me
[02:45] <Adie> okay
[02:45] <cfhowlett> whereami: if you've a separate partition, /home can be preserved.  Just don't format it.  Otherwise ...
[02:45] <Adie> http://pastebin.com/XRh54tQ6
[02:45] <kkm> settings are correct and which connections and methods i should use
[02:45] <trevorj> whereami: the livecd will preserve everything unless you tell it otherwise
[02:45] <Adie> I used some mount configurations tool :|
[02:45] <trevorj> Adie: lol, use a text editor
[02:46] <Adie> NOOOO
[02:46] <whereami> trevorj, well, by "livecd" I really meant installer.
[02:46] <trevorj> whereami: same thing ;)
[02:46] <Adie> how can you tell me to use a text editor when I don't even know what I am suposed to type on
[02:46] <Adie> "plz mount my other drives on boot plz"
[02:46] <trevorj> Adie: man fstab
[02:46] <Adie> that doesn't work :(
[02:46] <trevorj> Adie: =P
[02:47] <bustacap> Any way of getting the side bar to lock in place instead of hiding?
[02:47] <trevorj> bustacap: thats the default
[02:47] <Adie> :|
[02:47] <trevorj> Adie: they are ntfs ?
[02:48] <Adie> settings > appearance >behavior tab
[02:48] <Adie> there is an auto hide the launcher setting ^_^
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: change the fourth column to 'defaults'
[02:48] <Adie> trevorj, yup yup
[02:48] <Adie> okay
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: also
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: don't use /media/blah
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: use /mnt/blah
[02:48] <kkm> is there any way to add widgets or gadgets in ubuntu like we do in windows
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: mkdir the targets as well
[02:49] <Adie> the reason I didn't stick with the defaults is because the defaults of the program mout it in read only
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: there's multiple softwares to do so in apt
[02:49] <Nogal> anyone know how to add a bash command to run at login?
[02:49] <trevorj> Nogal: ~/.bashrc
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: I reemember one being called superkaramba
[02:49] <LiDaR> Nogal, rc.local
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: but idk if that one's good anymore
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: I haven't used it in ~5-6 years
[02:49] <Adie> brb ^_^
[02:50] <ciscbro> Hello, I am in the /dev folder trying to figure out how ubuntu sees the 4 usb ports on my dell laptop. I am trying to mount a usb to serial cable to a usb port so I can connect the console port of a cisco router - any guidance?
[02:50] <bustacap> Adie, ty, I guess I didn't see that when I looked.
[02:50] <trevorj> adie: wait
[02:50] <trevorj> bleh
[02:50] <kkm> trevorj : ok fine ..
[02:50] <cfhowlett> ciscbro: also check in with #ubuntu-server they might be able to help
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: usb to serial?
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: just use screen
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: you don't mount anything
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: I'm assuming it's a PL2303 chipset
[02:50] <Nogal> trevorj: trything that now, brb
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: so just do screen /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:51] <trevorj> ciscbro: this works because it sees the serial connection and uses it like a PTY
[02:51] <kkm> Lidar : are you there
[02:52] <Nogal> still doesn't work, what's the path of rc.local?
[02:52] <LiDaR> Nogal, its in /etc/
[02:52] <trevorj> Nogal: it works
[02:52] <trevorj> Nogal: ~/.bashrc runs on interactive logins
[02:53] <trevorj> Adie: hi
[02:53] <Adie> trevorj, still broken ^_^
[02:53] <trevorj> Adie: sorry I told you it wrong
[02:53] <trevorj> Adie: lol, change ntfs to ntfs-3g
[02:53] <ciscbro> trevorj: thank you for the pointers, I received a message "sorry could not find a pty"
[02:53] <Adie> well, you can tell me what the problem is when I show you %_%
[02:53] <trevorj> ciscbro: sudo
[02:53] <Adie> deal?
[02:53] <unkzuck3r> someone uses cakephp with nginx?
[02:53] <trevorj> ciscbro: or add yourself to the proper group
[02:53] <unkzuck3r> I'm having problems
[02:53] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: I have before
[02:53] <Adie> http://i.imgur.com/LKmkD.jpg
[02:53] <Nogal> trevorj:  but when trying to add the "thunar --daemon &"  line, it does not load.
[02:53] <Adie> ubuntu stops loading there :x
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: whats thunar
[02:54] <kkm> what shortcut key to use to shut ubuntu down
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: is it an X app?
[02:54] <Nogal> It's the default file manager for xubuntu.
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: what DE
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: /wm?
[02:54] <trevorj> kkm: power button
[02:54] <Nogal> xfce/xfwm
[02:54] <trevorj> kkm: acpi power button *
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: do they use the standard autostart desktop location?
[02:55] <ciscbro> trevorj: awesome! thank you. I am going through the linux command line publication and just got to the permissions portion. This was sort of an emergency thing, you are the best
[02:55] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: how you set the file /nginx/sites-available/default?
[02:55] <trevorj> ciscbro: np!
[02:55] <trevorj> Nogal: ie, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[02:55] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: can you help me?
[02:55] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: I juse do something like this
[02:55] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: standard setup really
[02:56] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: I'll pastebin it
[02:56] <Nogal> don't see one, I'm trying the rc.local trick
[02:56] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: but works? I appreciate it!
[02:56] <trevorj> Nogal: that wont work
[02:56] <trevorj> Nogal: thunar is an X app
[02:56] <LiDaR> rc.local is for scripts and backrounded tasks
[02:56] <Nogal> I'm running it in daemon mode
[02:57] <trevorj> Nogal: still needs X I guarantee you
[02:57] <aslan> Hi, I downloaded a RAR file which contain few .txt formate files, but I was unable to open the file in gedit or any of the txt editor... It's shows like encoded file..
[02:57] <Nogal> lame, is there any way to get this working correctly or should I just switch to another FM altogether?
[02:57] <trevorj> Nogal: find out where xfce stores it's startup
[02:57] <LiDaR> Nogal, what are you trying to do ?
[02:58] <chroot_> hi, how to create a qt develop environment in ubuntu?
[02:58] <trevorj> Nogal: if it uses autostart .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/, then make one
[02:58] <Nogal> trevorj  it does not store it there, i'll have to do more research
[02:58] <trevorj> Nogal: xfce4-autostart-editor
[02:58] <Nogal> LiDaR, I'm trying to run thunar in deamon mode at login
[02:58] <trevorj> Nogal: Google told me that ^
[02:59] <aslan> Hi, I downloaded a RAR file which contain few .txt formate files, but I was unable to open the file in gedit or any of the txt editor... It's shows like encoded file..
[02:59] <LiDaR> Nogal, what is the purpose of that ?
[02:59] <somsip> aslan: you need unrar
[02:59] <Nogal> To not wait an exuberant amount of time for thunar to do its first load
[02:59] <Nogal> works in arch through a simple .xinitrc modification...
[02:59] <aslan> somsip, I installed Unrar too, but still it's sowing like that..
[03:00] <somsip> aslan: so you have unrar'ed the archive?
[03:00] <trevorj> Nogal: .xinitrc works on ubuntu too
[03:00] <trevorj> Nogal: but you need to use the xinitrc session
[03:00] <aslan> somsip, Yes
[03:00] <trevorj> Nogal: selected in lightdm
[03:01] <somsip> aslan: hmmm
[03:02] <trevorj> Nogal: try xfce4-autostart-editor
[03:02] <Nogal> Trevorj: command not found
[03:02] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: pasting now
[03:02] <Adie> >:U
[03:03] <aslan> somsip, Please help me out..
[03:03] <alkisg> aslan: extract the file, open gedit, and then go to file -> open and select the correct (non utf8) encoding for your language
[03:03] <somsip> aslan: what do you need to do?
[03:04] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: Oh man! Thanks. I did it!
[03:05] <aslan> alkisg, Somsip : I did it still it's showing the same...
[03:05] <avocado> what do i need to do to get my browser to show up in ubuntu's "default web browser" selection menu in system settings? (using 12.04 unity)
[03:05] <alkisg> aslan: can you upload the txt file somewhere without ever opening it with gedit, so that its contents are not altered? (i.e. don't use copy/paste for that...)
[03:06] <somsip> aslan: what should the contents of the file be - are they definitely text files? Just because they are name .txt means nothing
[03:07] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: http://pastebin.com/E2X0w2xQ
[03:07] <Nogal> Yeah, I'm just going to have to find a new file manager to replace thunar, and there's no way I'll use nautilus, anyone have a suggestion? I
[03:07] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: thats what I use, php-fpm with nginx
[03:07] <somsip> Nogal: pcmanfm
[03:07] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: me to
[03:08] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: me &too
[03:08] <aslan> alkisg, Sure I will copy that some where and give you the link now. Thank you for helping me a lot..
[03:08] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: thanks man! Very useful!
[03:08] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: np
[03:08] <avocado> nevermind, i figured it out http://askubuntu.com/questions/166455/how-do-i-make-luakit-my-default-browser
[03:09] <trevorj> ciscbro: you can also use minicom or gtkterm
[03:09] <trevorj> ciscbro: but screen is just so nice and easy ;)
[03:09] <ciscbro> trevorj: on a sidenote, I'm just learning linux and how the kernal works. I'm running bohdi which is ubuntu based and I have a generic VBox with an XP client.
[03:09] <ciscbro> trevorj: but the Vbox doesn't recognize any of my usb ports
[03:10] <trevorj> ciscbro: install the extras package
[03:10] <ciscbro> trevorj: yeah, I am astonished at how awesome screen is
[03:10] <trevorj> ciscbro: it's proprietary crap in my opinion
[03:10] <trevorj> ciscbro: kvm is nice too ;)
[03:10] <ciscbro> trevorj: well I don't even need it now that you've shared screen
[03:11] <Nogal> somsip: just installed it, I like it so far, brb for a test run of first boot
[03:11] <somsip> Nogal: cool. It's not fancy, but it's small and quick
[03:12] <Nogal> somsip you are awesome, thank you.
[03:12] <somsip> Nogal: easy enough :)
[03:12] <riz0n> Hello guys, I am setting up an Ubuntu Server 12.04, and am going by the Server Guide. I am trying to set up SASL Authentication in Dovecot, on page 237, it refers to editing a file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf. It wants to uncomment lines auth default section, in socket listen{ }. The problem is, the dovecot.conf file does not contain the lines as the documentation includes. Can someone tell me
[03:12] <riz0n> the file that I need to edit that contains this portion of the configuration? Thanks.
[03:13] <Nogal> somsip: does this have 'open terminal here' and '2pane mode' options?
[03:13] <cfhowlett> riz0n: #ubuntu-server might be better ...
[03:13] <Nogal> somsip: found terminal option, just looking for 2pane
[03:14] <riz0n> I will ask them. I figured I would ask here since there is a much broader audience.
[03:14] <somsip> Nogal: F4 for open terminal, I use CTRL-T for tabs rather than split screen, or more often I open two instances of pcmanfm if I really want that
[03:15] <Nogal> somsip: alright, I've also got emelfm2 for backup for my two-pane needs :P I do like pcmanfm as a default though, much more zippy than thunar ever was, and it's not useless like nautilus
[03:16] <LostMonk> so this may be a stupid question, but where do I set my screensaver and screen timeout?
[03:16] <ciscbro> trevorj: you meant VBox is proprietary junk right?
[03:17] <cfhowlett> LostMonk: not stupid.  what version of ubuntu are your running
[03:17] <hakarune> So on mint i symlinked the home folders (i.e. Documents, Downloads, Pictures, et al) to my shared NTFS partition (between win7 and linux), but forgot how i did it. How do i do on Ubuntu 12.04
[03:17] <LostMonk> uh, whatever is current on the site
[03:17] <LostMonk> 12 something
[03:18] <Nogal> hakarune: ln -s <target> <link>
[03:18] <cfhowlett> LostMonk: Ubuntu 12.04 then.  look in system settings
[03:18] <hakarune> LostMonk it's under system settings appearance
[03:18] <LostMonk> thanks
[03:19] <hakarune> Thanks Nogal, i could have sworn i dud more so thet appeared in the nav pane and didn'tconflict with current folders
[03:19] <LostMonk> hrm, all I have is background, theme and launcher icon size
[03:20] <cfhowlett> LostMonk: screensaver behavior is definitely in system settings ... somewhere.  :)  I can't be more precise as I'm on UbuntuStudio which is xfce based and has a slightly different layout
[03:21] <LostMonk> kk
[03:21] <LostMonk> will search some more then
[03:21] <Nogal> hakarune: not sure what you mean by conflicting, unless you've already got symlinks, then ln -sn <target> <link>
[03:21] <Nogal> as per nav-pane that should be fm-spceific
[03:22] <hakarune> No, did a fresh install on wed, just could have sworn there was an extra step, but idk lol.
[03:22] <Roasted> dumb question - but if I drop a script in cron.weekly, it'll run.... weekly? No? Do I have to do anything else in specific to get it moving or is simply dropping it in place enough?
[03:29] <david> hi guys , is there any way to access a solaris desktop from ubuntu?
[03:30] <jagginess> david, solaris sux
[03:30] <cfhowlett> david: can't see why there wouldn't be, but don't ask me how...
[03:30] <hakarune> Ok have a big problem...
[03:30] <david> hi guys , is there any way to access a solaris desktop from ubuntu? just like we access windows through rdp without using vnc as vnc settings have to be done on the server also
[03:30] <mn2010> Do you mean in the sense of VNC
[03:30] <david> i mean , other than vnc
[03:30] <david> since in vnc i have to do settings on the solaris server as well ,
[03:30] <mn2010> VNC is more unix specific, RDP is WINX specific
[03:30] <jagginess> david, maybe X11 tunnelling with ssh, but it'll be slower than vnc or nx
[03:31] <datruth> How can I chroot a user to their home directory when their connected via ssh?
[03:31] <mn2010> Well if you have SSH installed, X11 tunneling in possible
[03:31] <david> i want to straight away access solaris remote desktop through ubuntu , what would be the best way
[03:31] <mn2010> nevermind..
[03:31] <jagginess> datruth, just sftp? (if not then see how to make a jailroot -- you'll have to google jailroot ssh ubuntu)
[03:31] <kyle__> mn2010: Um, vnc is NOT unix specific.  It's fairly generic actually.
[03:31] <david> i want to be able to login to solaris desktop using my credentials , from my ubuntu client
[03:32] <datruth> jagginess: thanks
[03:32] <kyle__> david: Local network?
[03:32] <david> yes , local , and as well as remote
[03:32] <hakarune> So i moved home to old_home and couldn't login after reboot. Followed advice online to boit with live cd and copy all contents (sudo cp -R ) of old_home to home. I still can't login though
[03:32] <datruth> jagginess: is it easier to just set perms on like /home etc ?
[03:33] <jagginess> datruth, you can easily do a jailroot for sftp only
[03:33] <kyle__> david: And you want to use the solaris machine as a terminal to the ubuntu system, the ubuntu system as a terminal to the solaris system, or the solaris system AUTHENTICATING off of the ubuntu system?
[03:33] <datruth> jagginess: no I dont want it for sftp only I want it for the actrual ssh connection
[03:33] <jagginess> datruth, (with an sshd option), but jailrooting a shell access you have to do manual work
[03:33] <Nogal> hakarune: mv /old_home /home
[03:35] <hakarune> Ok will try that, thanks again Nogal (was following a post about how to use a storage partition as home folder before i got on here)... it didn't work -__-
[03:35] <david> @kyle : thanks for asking , actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop , and want to access a solaris gui ,( solaris system AUTHENTICATING off of the ubuntu system?)
[03:36] <jagginess> david, read your history.. i gave an alternative
[03:36] <Nogal> hakarune: Yeah, I normally only bother with that when setting up my partitions and mounting the storage partition as /home. You should be able to mount to another location without any issues, like /home/username/storage
[03:36] <LiDaR> kyle__, quit being lazy walk across the room if you want to use solaris !!
[03:37] <kyle__> david: that's saying two differeing things I think :)  Solaris authentication off of ubuntu is, login to solaris with your ubuntu username and password.  NIS is a nice way of doing this, reasonably secure (not hugely, but reasonably).
[03:37] <kyle__> LiDaR: The only solaris boxes I have access to are E420Rs.  They make more noise than a business jet.  Walk to the basement.
[03:37] <gry> i think they just want to remote desktop into the solaris with possibly a different password
[03:38] <david> i have some application dependencies , and to pull of some reports from solaris machine , so i want to login to solaris from my ubuntu client the way i login to windows
[03:38] <david> windows using rdesktop
[03:38] <kyle__> david: If you want to use solaris software, but display it on ubuntu, you can use X forwarding, via XDMCP, or ssh/telnet into solaris, set your DISPLAY variable to your ubuntu system, and run the software.
[03:38] <hakarune> Nogal:  it does auto mount at boot as /home the tutorial had me edit the fstab so it mounts at boot as /home and move home to old_home ... could it still be mounting at boot and making it so i can't login?
[03:38] <gry> david, probably just run xrdp server on solaris and rdesktop could be able to remote connect to that too
[03:39] <kyle__> david: You want a remote solaris desktop? That would be either XDMCP or VNC,
[03:39] <kyle__> david: XDMCP is very very fast, but your data can be sniffed on the wire, so it's only for internal use.
[03:39] <Nogal> hakarune: very possible, but unfortunately I have to go.
[03:40] <Nogal> you probably want to work through the tutorial you followed backwards to undo changes you made to fstab
[03:40] <david> @kyle : thanks , can i configure XDMCP on ubuntu?
[03:41] <david> without doing any configuration on solaris server?
[03:41] <hakarune> Ok, thanks
[03:41] <kyle__> david: Yes.  If you google for XDMCP, you can find articles on the LTSP site.  They should get you pretty far.
[03:42] <kyle__> david: You may have to enable some stuff on the solaris server, but I doubt it.  This stuff has been enabled by default from back when it was SunOS (BSD based), through every version of solaris I played with.
[03:42] <kyle__> david: Of course the last one I played with was quite awhile ago.
[03:43] <david> @kyle : ok
[03:44] <ocmsRzr> hi, I'm trying to connect a desktop to my wireless network.  I want
[03:44] <ocmsRzr> 	  to have Internet->Wireless Laptop->Router->Desktop
[03:47] <Adie> trevorj, I foxed it :x
[03:47] <Adie> fixed
[03:47] <LiDaR> ocmsRzr, wouldnt having net->router-> computers make more sense ?
[03:47] <Adie> ima continue to use these ati drivers, but the issue with my three screens is it was larger than the virtual screen maximum as defined by xorg
[03:48] <ocmsRzr> sorry, let me explain my situation a little more
[03:48] <Adie> it was limited to around 4200 px wide, and I exceeded that
[03:49] <ocmsRzr> I have a wireless router/modem combo from my ISP.  I have one desktop that doesn't have builtin wireless.  Its in a physically separate room and running cable to it isn't feasible.  I want to connect an old laptop to the wireless network and share its internet connection with the desktop
[03:50] <riz0n> ocmsRzr: why dont you get another router that supports DD-WRT and save yourself the headache?
[03:51] <d34d1ys1nz> When trying to connect to a vpn on ubuntu, is it required to close my browser for it to work?
[03:52] <ocmsRzr> I understand the accepted way of doing it.  I've had it set up with a crossover cable in the past.  I was just wondering if its possible.  I'll either find the crossover cable or buy a wireless router that I can bridge later
[03:52] <ocmsRzr> I just wanted the machine online tonight
[03:52] <LiDaR> ocmsRzr, its possible
[03:55] <Nico1> Hey all
[03:55] <thufir_> configuring mailman fails because the FQDN is wrong:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman  it doesn't work when I try "newlist mailman" as suggested.  Instead, mailman replies with "Illegal list name: mailman@dur".  where is it getting "dur"?  the FQDN, hosts and so forth are all set to "dur.bounceme.net".
[03:58] <Nico1> I'm currently installing Ubuntu through WUBI. I've always been a Windows user and I'm looking to branch out. I guess I would like to know what to start with / where to start.
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Nico1: don't wubi is my advice.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Nico1: wubi is a TESTING platform for windows users to sample ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.
[03:59] <kyle__> Nico1: Desktop or laptop?  Actually, either way, I think you should get a cheap usb drive, and run linux off of it.  Much better performance than wubi, and will let you keep your comfort zone of windows on your hardware, without risking it.
[03:59] <Nico1> Ah ok. I guess that is the purpose I am using it for currently. I'd love to have a dedicated machine for Ubuntu in the future.
[04:00] <alien64> to be frank wubi sucks
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Nico1: If you're inclined to merely test ubuntu, I'd suggest virtualbox over wubi, but that's just my bias.  If you want a permanent installation, look into dual booting
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Nico1: or use kyle_ method - USB is very effective
[04:00] <kyle__> Nico1: If your system has an SD card slot (and can boot from SD), you could get a 8/16/32GB sd card and run off of it...
[04:01] <kyle__> I used to carry an ubuntu install on SD to test laptops with.
[04:02] <Nico1> Once I'm inside of Ubuntu, where is a good place to start poking around?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Nico1: depends what you want to do.  make music: audacity, make videos: openshot, make documents: libreoffice, edit photos: gimp
[04:03] <Super_Dog> Nico1:  What'cha want to do?
[04:04] <gry> they disconnected
[04:04] <barnex> Is there a way to make unity's switcher not reorder windows when switching? Or some workaround that will switch focus to the next window and can be made into keyboard shortcut?
[04:07] <Super_Dog> barnex:  still on 10.04 on a lot of my machines...  I thought you could turn Unity off in CCSM...???
[04:07] <barnex> yes, but other available switchers seem to behave the same way.
[04:08] <barnex> Also I want to use unity, just get rid of this one stupid behaviour
[04:08] <Super_Dog> I'm pretty sure there's a Unity icon in CCSM - Have you monkeyed with the settings?
[04:08] <Super_Dog> Buried deep in the bowels... :-)
[04:08] <barnex> There's a Unity Icon and I've monkeyed
[04:10] <barnex> only bools related to switcher are "automatically grid", "show minimized", and "bias alt-tab to prefer windows on the current viewport"
[04:10] <Super_Dog> Can you turn Switcher feature off and go with one of the other facilities in CCSM?  I know there's a batch of options.  One is the ring switcher and the other is the one that's like iTunes' cover flow...
[04:10] <Super_Dog> Don't have my Unity system booted right now...
[04:10] <barnex> I've checked those switchers and there doesn't seem to be option for it. And they all behave the same way
[04:10] <kyle__> Is there a way to disable the dash "windows key to search" when vinagre is fullscreen?
[04:12] <Super_Dog> barnex: Can you explain "exactly" what you mean by "re-order" windows?  I'm using 10.04 and I have standard "Shift Switcher" on...
[04:13] <barnex> Sure. When I have three windows open: A, B, C, and window A is active. I hit alt-tab once to get to the next window (B). I release alt-tab.
[04:13] <barnex> Now I'd expect to hit alt-tab again and get to window C, because it was after B on the list last time I checked
[04:13] <barnex> but now the order is B, A, C and I need to hit alt-tab twice to get to C
[04:14] <Blue1> sanity check - wine does NOT support usb, right?
[04:15] <lickalott> gents, running into an odd issue.   I installed ubuntu to /dev/sda but added 3x 500GB drives after installation.  they showed up as sdb, sdc and sdd.  I rebooted and not /boot shows up against sdb and my mounts in fstab won't mount (likely because /dev/sdb1 is supposed to be mounted to /media/<FOLDERNAME>)  anyone know whats going on here?
[04:15] <Super_Dog> barnex:  I think you're maybe just doing it wrong....  I just hold alt key down and I cycle through the open windows while hitting tab with the alt key remaining depressed...
[04:17] <Super_Dog> barnex: Holding down shift will reverse the order of the cycling if you want to go backwards to an open window....
[04:17] <Super_Dog> same way as it does in windows and in mac...
[04:18] <barnex> Super_Dog: Thanks, I'm aware of those techniques, I just don't like them
[04:18] <Nico1> I should not have installed WUBI.
[04:18] <lickalott> ^^ true
[04:18] <lickalott> tried that for all of 15 mins, then deleted
[04:18] <barnex> Because I hate to look and think when doing something simple like changing active window
[04:18] <Nico1> I restarted my machine and it would not let me boot.
[04:18] <lickalott> VM is the best way to go to have both
[04:19] <barnex> And this way 'distances' between windows change all the time and require thinking.
[04:19] <L4ur> Hello
[04:19] <UbuntuHelp_> Is the Ubuntu Repository currently offline?
[04:20] <Super_Dog> barnex:  been doing this for so many years this way I honestly don't even think about it....  trust me, you get used to it quick if you do it enough...
[04:20] <L4ur> I love apt-get :))
[04:20] <Nico1> lickalott: Any specific amount of system resources that I should assign it?
[04:20] <Super_Dog> barnex:  which switcher are you using in Unity?
[04:20] <lickalott> VM?
[04:21] <Raji> Hello Everone. Can any please tell me a open source mail server for lan , i want to install it on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop.
[04:21] <Nico1> lickalott: Yes
[04:21] <kevin_> hey guys. sometimes my usb devices just randomly stop working. does anybody have any idea? here is a dmesg trace. https://gist.github.com/cbec335ee57374c2dd6f
[04:21] <barnex> Super_Dog: Static switcher, I've some other issues with unity one.
[04:22] <lickalott> I only gave mine 25gb for storage and 2GB ram.  Shouldn't need more than that unless you plan on using it for stuff like WINE or a lot of process intensive stuff.
[04:22] <barnex> And those issues were window/app idea.
[04:22] <stiv2k> hi
[04:22] <D-coy> o/
[04:22] <stiv2k> how to stress test my graphics card from ubuntu live CD?
[04:23] <lickalott> HD 1080p porn?
[04:23] <D-coy> :D~
[04:23] <hector> SolarisBoy, it`s working now
[04:23] <Raji> Hello Everone. Can any please tell me a open source mail server for lan , i want to install it on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop.
[04:24] <lickalott> Raji http://bit.ly/OEa23X
[04:24] <stiv2k> lickalott lol
[04:24] <Super_Dog> barnex:  Not sure there is a real answer unless you figured out a way to re-code the behavior of the order of the windows.  Probably someone on here at a higher pay grade than me would have to answer that one.
[04:24] <lickalott> ;+\p
[04:24] <stiv2k> the machine doesnt have internet so i'd prefer not ot have to run cat5 to install anything
[04:24] <stiv2k> :/
[04:25] <lickalott> i got nothing for ya man.  do you have 2 disc drives?
[04:25] <kevin_> and when i say random, it's pretty random. i'll be typing or moving my mouse, then it just stops... doesn't work when i replug in either
[04:25] <UbuntuHelp_> What is wrong with the Linux Repos I'm trying to install things but 0/xMB downloaded..
[04:26] <lickalott> UbuntuHelp_ can you get to other parts of the interwebs?
[04:27] <newbchessplayer> does anyone know a fix yet for the random flash s-t-a-r-t- -a-n-d- -s-t-o-p-s that can only be temporarily fixed with a full reboot?
[04:27] <lickalott> had an issue with my interfaces once and had a similar message
[04:33] <Nico3> Would someone like to be my Ubuntu mentor?
[04:33] <WeThePeople> nico3, wazup
[04:33] <lickalott> rm -rf *
[04:33] <lickalott> JOKING!
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Nico3: nope.  but answering ONE ubuntu question is a reasonable request.  for more extensive support and mentoring, see your local linux user group or ubuntu loco
[04:34] <cfhowlett> lickalott: stop now.
[04:35] <lickalott> ?
[04:35] <Nico3> I guess I need to figure out what I would like to do in Ubuntu.
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Nico3: office documents?  edit music?  make graphics?  edit photos?  ...
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Nico3: and, of course, games.  look in the ubuntu software center for ideas.
[04:36] <Nico3> I've got libreoffice installed.
[04:37] <WeThePeople> nico3, go for the goods.. open office
[04:38] <WeThePeople> idk
[04:39] <lickalott> do you just want to get more familar with command line Nico3?
[04:41] <david__> how can I make unity hide when I open up windows in max size
[04:41] <Adie> You can set unity to autohode
[04:41] <david__> how?
[04:41] <Adie> but it will always autohide
[04:41] <wan26> compiz?
[04:41] <Adie> settings > appearance > behavior
[04:42] <david__> what about douging windows?
[04:46] <Nico3> lickalott: Sorry I didn't see your message. I guess I'm just going to play around a little bit.
[04:46] <david__> does everyone here use unity?
[04:47] <david__> or do other people use other DE ?
[04:47] <wan26> i use it :]
[04:47] <brandon> I just use unity
[04:47] <lickalott> are you looking to learn more about command line entry and stuff or are you wanting to use the GUI side more?
[04:48] <brandon> I've been playing around with like 5-6 different linux distributions and I keep coming back to Ubuntu and Unity lol
[04:48] <david__> I dont mind command line
[04:48] <david__> brandon me too. Just came back to Ubuntu
[04:49] <Treaver> Sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install will not work due to Ubuntu Repositories. ca.archive.ubuntu.com can someone tell me why?
[04:49] <david__> hard to get use to though. While unity is pretty that bar does get in the way
[04:49] <brandon> Yeah, I hate it on my laptop.  Seems to take up a lot of space, but its not bad on the desktop
[04:49] <hector> i`m on a 64 bit system (12.04) and i can`t install ia32-libs it says `package have unmet dependencies` any clue?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Treaver: maybe those mirrors are temporarily out of service?  try setting a different software source
[04:50] <wan26> hector have you got multiarch support
[04:50] <hector> wan26, idk?
[04:51] <kevin_> david__: i don't use unity. i use gnome classic with no effects
[04:51] <hector> wan26, u mean ia32-libs-multiarch?
[04:52] <david__> I am thinking about cinnamon
[04:52] <brandon> I liked cinnamon, Mint is a solid distro
[04:52] <david__> Kevin how did you get gnome classic
[04:53] <david__> brandon what browser do you use btw
[04:53] <brandon> Firefox/Chrome
[04:53] <brandon> Chromium**
[04:54] <Adie> chromium vs chrome
[04:54] <Adie> gogogo
[04:54] <david__> I feel that chromium has bad integration in unbuntu with the max  and minimize and close button
[04:54] <brandon> Yeah
[04:54] <brandon> that bothers me a lot
[04:54] <brandon> lol
[04:54] <david__> know what I mean?
[04:54] <david__> do you know how to fix it?
[04:54] <kevin_> david__: uhm... you can try instructions at http://www.itworld.com/software/272614/use-gnome-classic-ubuntu-1204 for getting gnome classic
[04:55] <brandon> I think there's a way to make it look better.  One sec..gotta reinstall chromium
[04:55] <wan26> no, hector i thought you were installing that to run 32 bit binaries on a 64 bit machine, multiarch is the alternative to doing that
[04:56] <king_cobra> why not just install Mate desktop environment ..
[04:56] <hector> wan26, exactly, i need to run a 32bit app on my 64bit system
[04:56] <daneve05> hello guys, is this the support channel of ubuntu
[04:56] <cfhowlett> daneve05: it is.
[04:56] <WeThePeople> yes
[04:56] <kevin_> well i am going to sleep. goodnight
[04:57] <glassresistor> anyone know how to install the ubuntu software on andriod, i saw the advertisement on ubuntu.org but no install instructions or vendors selling it installed
[04:57] <brandon> david_, ok you can make it look better.  At least get rid of the double window buttons.  Wrench -> settings -> personal stuff -> and then select the option to use 'system title bar and borders'
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !arm|glassresistor:
[04:57] <daneve05> i got a problem in my bluetooth connection
[04:57] <Treaver> Ok someone please give me step by step instructions for getting new repos cause the ubuntu's aren't working or connecting
[04:58] <daneve05> anyone can help me
[04:58] <daneve05> i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Treaver: in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:58] <WeThePeople> treaver, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:58] <Treaver> ttreYes in ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Treaver: ubuntu update center, settings, software sources
[04:58] <david__> what do you mean by wrench?
[04:59] <theschwartz> the wrench icon, top right
[04:59] <theschwartz> of chromium
[04:59] <david__> o ok
[05:00] <theschwartz> I think that makes it look better integrated than the default setting
[05:00] <glassresistor> ubottu: im specifically talking about this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[05:00] <glassresistor> oh haha
[05:00] <glassresistor> cfhowlett: i was specifically talking about http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android, is that the same thing?
[05:00] <Super_Dog> any of you guys slapped a full upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS... just noticed this became available on a couple of my 10.04 LTS desktops today...
[05:01] <theschwartz> Super, I would probably just do a clean install
[05:01] <theschwartz> if you want to upgrade
[05:01] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: iirc android ubuntu is under development.  ARM is available now.
[05:01] <david__> Nice
[05:01] <david__> perfect
[05:01] <theschwartz> ok awesome
[05:01] <Super_Dog> I know.  I have some LAMP stuff - basically an AjaxPlorer install on this unit and didn't want to start from scratch...
[05:01] <theschwartz> Ahhh
[05:01] <daneve05_> hello, my wi-fi has no problem but my bluetooth cannot detect any device
[05:01] <daneve05_>  nor i cant even enable it or enable the visible button
[05:01] <j3f> hi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?
[05:01] <david__> would have never guessed
[05:02] <daneve05_> please hellp
[05:02] <glassresistor> cfhowlett: thanks, the advertising made it sound already here, what does ARM look like? is it vanilla ubuntu on andriod? is there desktop level hacks?
[05:02] <theschwartz> daneve, have you tried posting to the forums?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: never used it, but I think  you can run it in virtualbox?
[05:02] <theschwartz> david, yeah it took me a while to find that too
[05:02] <theschwartz> not sure why its not by default
[05:03] <j3f> hi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: sorry, VBOX won't work.  try qemu
[05:03] <daneve05_> theschwartz: nope, but i found same question there and yet still no answer
[05:03] <glassresistor> cfhowlett: thanks i mean its cool, im just a little confused as to how well this could work
[05:04] <theschwartz> Is the thread old?  If so, then I would go ahead and post your problem again
[05:04] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: we're all waiting to learn more.  :)
[05:04] <theschwartz> quick question, what IRC client is everyone using?
[05:04] <Super_Dog> Xchat...
[05:05] <j3f> hi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?
[05:05] <glassresistor> theschwartz: i presume different ones
[05:05] <glassresistor> irssi though
[05:05] <theschwartz> lol
[05:05] <cfhowlett> j3f: what driver do you want?
[05:05] <theschwartz> yeah I know, just getting a feel for whats out there.  i havent used IRC on Ubuntu, let alone use IRC in years....
[05:05] <cfhowlett> j3f: better yet, what graphics card do you have?
[05:05] <j3f> n10 family
[05:06] <j3f> is notebook mg101a3
[05:07] <wan26> theshcwartz you may want to have a cloak
[05:07] <theschwartz> huh?
[05:07] <j3f> someone have idea ?:C
[05:07] <david__> whats the difference between remove and complete remove in synaptic?
[05:07] <halias> Hello, I'm trying to install a dual boot Windows 8/Ubuntu 12.04.1. My disk has Windows 8 preview already installed but I left an 80GB empty partition. When I boot off the Ubuntu CD installer, it doesn't recognize my existing Windows partition and only sees a full empty disk. Is this a known issue?
[05:08] <wan26> winfs
[05:08] <theschwartz> wan26, what do you mean I should have a cloak?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> david__: remove removes the app, purge also removes the config files in /home - or thus has been my experience
[05:09] <cfhowlett> halias: something to do with uefi.  my uefi hackintosh has the same blind spot when I upgraded ubuntu
[05:10] <hector> anyone know how to get the ia32-libs installed?
[05:10] <Super_Dog> What do you guys think of this technique to virtualize my existing Ubuntu desktop install into VirtualBox:  http://goo.gl/7Mqet
[05:10] <LiDaR> apt-get install them
[05:11] <hector> LiDaR, i got the card to work properly
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Super_Dog: sounds good in theory.  However, plan for failure, back up /home and place the iso on standby
[05:11] <hector> the problem is now the game D:
[05:11] <halias> cfhowlett: Is there something I can do about the UEFI?
[05:11] <LiDaR> hector, sweet
[05:11] <Super_Dog> Kind of what I was thinking.
[05:13] <barnex> Ok, I wrote a script that sort-of works as a switcher... Time to bed
[05:13] <cfhowlett> halias: I don't think there's a solution.  windows 8 isn't even released yet, so the back hack hasn't been done.  Consider virtualbox on windows 8 to get ubuntu
[05:13] <Super_Dog> does dd write to ntfs drives?  sounds like I should probably grab an old drive out of my stash and hook it up with a USB header to do this...
[05:13] <daneve05_> i got a problem on my bluetooth, i cannot enable it in ubuntu 12.04, please help
[05:14] <cfhowlett> halias: or boot ubuntu via USB or cdrom for now.
[05:15] <halias> ok. So about VirtualBox, I've been trying that too :) Is there a known problem with Fullscreen mode? Whenever I turn on Fullscreen mode, my windows don't seem to have proper focus and my keyboard doesn't seem to send characters to the terminals/apps.
[05:15] <Super_Dog> halias:  You can also play "musical hard drives" if your bios supports it.  Just change the boot order in the bios every time you want to swtich OS's...
[05:16] <Super_Dog> That gets you around any problems with Grub2 not recognizing the Windows 8 or what not...
[05:16] <gogeta> Super_Dog: most bios do
[05:16] <cfhowlett> halias: 2 versions of vbox are available.
[05:16] <gogeta> Super_Dog: i thought windows 8 uses that awful efi
[05:16] <cfhowlett> halias: the one in the repos is basic.  For full support, dl directly from oracle.
[05:17] <halias> Super_Dog: Thanks for the thought, but I only have one disk.
[05:17] <cfhowlett> halias: AND download the extension pack
[05:17] <halias> chhowlett: I downloaded VirtualBox from Oracle.
[05:17] <Super_Dog> Last I checked it was same as Windows 7...  if you install 8 to one disk and Ubuntu to another - and then switch bios boot priority - don't see why that wouldn't work...
[05:17] <gogeta> halias: why would you whant windows 8 anyways
[05:17] <cfhowlett> halias: extension pack?
[05:18] <halias> I installed the "Install Guest Additions" from the menu if those are extensions.
[05:18] <gogeta> Super_Dog: he said he has one disk
[05:18] <Treaver> Ok I still haven't gotten an answer. I tried sudo apt-get install PlayOnLinux and it stopped at the ubuntu.com thing. Then I tried from the Software Center and it's downloaded 0mb/xxxmb
[05:18] <Treaver> Can someone tell me how I can fix this?!
[05:18] <Super_Dog> Can you find another? :-)
[05:18] <gogeta> Treaver: try running apt-get update first
[05:19] <Treaver> gogeta, I have. It stopped at the ubuntu.com thing too
[05:19] <halias> Basically, I don't want to pay for a Windows 7 license. I think it's too expensive. Windows 8 looks like it will be a better deal when it finally comes out. My system died so I needed to get a machine up and running and I couldn't wait until October.
[05:19] <gogeta> Treaver: then the repo is down
[05:19] <Treaver> When will it be up
[05:19] <gogeta> halias: it is out
[05:20] <gogeta> Treaver: dunno
[05:20] <zIz> gogeta: only RTM i believe, public release is still to come
[05:21] <daneve05__> ubuntu 12.04 doesnt detect my built-in bluetooth device
[05:21] <gogeta> halias: your machine if it came with 7 should have a key printed on it
[05:21] <zIz>  you find another? :-)
[05:21] <Treaver> Halias, if you need to temporarily download a torrent for Windows 7 and use your Genuine key it is legal.
[05:22] <gogeta> halias: yep you wont even need a cracked copy
[05:22] <gogeta> halias: just the retail iso
[05:23] <cfhowlett> halias: digital river .com is the official win7 download site.  download the iso, activate with your legal key and you're done
[05:23] <halias> I built my own machine. (It is a frankenstein of old and new parts.) So it didn't come with Windows 7. My last machine was 2000.
[05:23] <Treaver> Is ubuntu offline completely?
[05:23] <gogeta> halias: they sell you you the liance where you get the cd from does not matter
[05:23] <Treaver> http://ubuntu.com/
[05:23] <gogeta> halias: i see
[05:23] <cfhowlett> Treaver: works for me..
[05:24] <Super_Dog> I've got a Technet subscription.  Easy to download any ISO you want there...
[05:24] <Treaver> Could it be my ISP is blocked or something?
[05:24] <gogeta> halias: you can even install without a key and use it for 30 days also legal
[05:25] <lickalott> Super_Dog, let you a message in -server
[05:26] <lickalott> who here is on mIRC right now?
[05:26] <WeThePeople> treaver, no you are prob not connected to the net
[05:26] <gogeta> lol mirc
[05:26] <Treaver> I'm on the net using the IRC
[05:26] <cfhowlett> lickalott: have you an actual ubuntu support question?
[05:27] <halias> I didn't realize I could install windows for 30 days without a key.
[05:27] <lickalott> whats your issue man?   I did have one and it was answered.  I'm just asking a general question right now.
[05:27] <WeThePeople> treaver, its not your isp
[05:27] <histo> Treaver: works for me
[05:27] <gogeta> halias: yea microsoft did that with 7
[05:27] <Treaver> Could it be my IP?
[05:27] <WeThePeople> no
[05:27] <histo> !ot | lickalott
[05:28] <halias> Though I think I need to hold out until Oct 26 which is about 60 days :(
[05:28] <Adie> halias, windows 7 allows you to not activate for 3 months, I think
[05:28] <gogeta> halias: well relly if you on linux what do you need windows for
[05:28] <Adie> after 1 month it just starts bugging you
[05:29] <WeThePeople> treaver, what does the page say when you type in the address
[05:29] <Zeptis> hello there
[05:29] <PhyBoy> hello
[05:29] <lickalott> well...nazis.... where are you now?  windows talk isn't ubuntu support
[05:29] <cfhowlett> Zeptis: greetings
[05:29] <Zeptis> thanks, cfhowlett
[05:29] <gogeta> lickalott: his windows 8 install isnt being seen by grub
[05:29]  * cfhowlett "nazi's"?
[05:29] <Treaver> Absolutely nothing, just loads infinity
 I didn't realize I could install windows for 30 days without a key.
[05:30] <Zeptis> quick question so I don't brick X: can I replace unity-greeter with openbox-session in lightdm.conf?
[05:30] <histo> Treaver: could be your dns server
[05:30] <gogeta> lickalott: becouse 7 would work
[05:30] <Treaver> dns server?
[05:30] <halias>  I have some old music hardware that only works in Windows.
[05:30] <gogeta> Treaver: well do websites work
[05:30] <phy1729> Treaver: do you know how to ping?
[05:30] <histo> Zeptis: the login screen or you just want to replace the entire session?
[05:31] <Treaver> Yes other websites work, I'm on freenode now
[05:31] <halias> stupid proprietary drivers.
[05:31] <gogeta> Treaver: if websites work then the dns is working
[05:31] <Zeptis> login screen
[05:31] <histo> halias: good luck with it working in windows 8
[05:31] <histo> Zeptis: openbox isn't a login screen
[05:31] <monkeypaws> hello, anyone have a recomendation for a command line app that will backup specific files on a regular basis?  I was just going to use cron + tar?
[05:31] <WeThePeople> treaver, might be your location at the moment
[05:32] <WeThePeople> treaver, wait a bit
[05:32] <Adie> rsync?
[05:32] <monkeypaws> rsync eh?
[05:32] <Treaver> http://fpaste.org/bhOW/
[05:32] <Zeptis> it has a session manager; I'm trying to get X to use that, but I've added it to the ~/xinitrc that ubu doesn't have, and it doesn't work. Now I'm a little lost.
[05:32] <histo> monkeypaws: cron + rsync
[05:32] <Adie> rsync is built into ubuntu
[05:32] <gogeta> Treaver: yea might be the rought to ubuntu is just down for you atm on te isp side
[05:32] <phy1729> Treaver: run a traceroute
[05:33] <Treaver> Phy how do I do that
[05:33] <gogeta> Treaver: if google etc are still working fine
[05:33] <phy1729> Treaver: traceroute ubuntu.com
[05:33] <histo> Zeptis: I did not know openbox had a session manager that's cool. You'd have to replace lightdm with it
[05:34] <Treaver> Can't be found
[05:34] <Treaver> Unknown command
[05:34] <phy1729> oh ubuntu doesn't come with it
[05:34] <Zeptis> histo: that's helpful to know, thank you. Do you know what script calls lightdm on startup?
[05:34] <crimsonmane> it's trace, not traceroute
[05:34] <gogeta> phy1729: i think it does just abbreavted
[05:35] <crimsonmane> or ifconfig trace
[05:35] <phy1729> who did that?
[05:35] <histo> Treaver: it resolves and pings fine here not sure what the issue is for you. Somehting per your location
[05:35] <hector> anyone knows how to install ia32-libs on 12.04?
[05:35] <histo> Zeptis: let me do some hunting around
[05:35] <Zeptis> thank you.
[05:35] <gogeta> Treaver:  tracert ubuntucom
[05:35] <Treaver> It won't work either trace ubuntu.com not found
[05:35] <gogeta> Treaver: ubuntu.com
[05:35] <barnex> Hmmm, now I have weird issue with binding keyboard shortcuts. Some shortcuts seem to fail for no reason.
[05:36] <barnex> super+j, super+k, super + shift + number
[05:36] <barnex> but super + number works ok..
[05:36] <Treaver> Still won't work :p
[05:36] <phy1729> no he needs the traceroute package for all those
[05:36] <gogeta> Treaver: yep its ot installed
[05:36] <WeThePeople> treaver, try tomorrow
[05:37] <Treaver> I need it tonight before school tomorrow!
[05:37] <gogeta> Treaver: how bought ping google.com
[05:37] <Zeptis> Treaver: what's your problem? I've come in late.
[05:37] <histo> Zeptis: you can sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/lightdm.override   to disable it from autostarting on boot.  Then to renable just sudo rm /etc/init.lightdm.override
[05:37] <gogeta> Treaver: it could just be on the isp side atm
[05:37] <Zeptis> histo: thank you very much
[05:37] <phy1729> we could ping setting the TTL manually
[05:37] <phy1729> ping -t <TTL> ubuntu.com
[05:38] <phy1729> incrementing the TTL until it doesn't work
[05:38] <Treaver> no such ttl
[05:38] <phy1729> ping -t 3 ubuntu.com
[05:38] <gogeta> histo: thats kinda a extra step
[05:38] <gogeta> histo: you can just do service ldm rmov
[05:38] <gogeta> histo: remove
[05:38] <phy1729> by <TTL> I meant put the TTL number there
[05:38] <WeThePeople> treaver, have access to another comp at the moment
[05:39] <Treaver> no I do not sadly..
[05:39] <histo> gogeta: yeah but then harder for him to re add it later
[05:39] <Treaver> http://fpaste.org/nw06/
[05:39] <phy1729> Treaver: ping -t 3 ubuntu.com
[05:39] <gogeta> histo: same command but add
[05:39] <Treaver> I did that phy
[05:39] <crimsonmane> i was late to the party... Treaver what is the problem from the beginning?
[05:39] <halias> I have an Intel HD 4000. in VirtualBox, Is there something I can do to get OpenGL acceleration to work (or work better)? I installed the "Guest Additions" and toggled the 3D check box. But glxgears seems kind of slow and I can't get Braid to launch.
[05:39] <phy1729> oh look at that
[05:39] <phy1729> Treaver: keep increasing the number until it just fails
[05:40] <crimsonmane> halias: not with VB ... other VM's are smoother.
[05:40] <Zeptis> @gogeta: do you happen to know which script calls lightdm on startup? Ubuntu's X is a tad strange.
[05:40] <gogeta> Zeptis: it shold be in rc.d
[05:41] <Zeptis> thank you
[05:41] <gogeta> Zeptis: most start up programs are there
[05:41] <WeThePeople> treaver, what browser you using
[05:41] <Treaver> It's not working in any browser but Chrome
[05:41] <Zeptis> treaver: what problem are you having? I'm late to the party.
[05:41] <GatorAlli> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64bit on my Dell XPS 15 from the Live CD. But, when I get to Installation Type, I get this screen http://i.stack.imgur.com/dsKXS.png .  The bootloader installation location list does not show /dev/sda. My fdisk is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169284/
[05:42] <phy1729> Zeptis: can't ping ubuntu.com
[05:42] <phy1729> apt-get problems
[05:42] <Treaver> GatorAlli, make a new disk.
[05:42] <GatorAlli> Treaver: reformat?
[05:42] <gogeta> GatorAlli: llol
[05:42] <Treaver> Gator make a completely new installation disk
[05:42] <gogeta> Treaver: you can always set another repo
[05:42] <GatorAlli> Treaver: k
[05:42] <Treaver> I had that problem before, it's a corrupt image
[05:43] <Treaver> gogeta, how do I do that
[05:43] <cfhowlett> GatorAlli: was this ever a hackintosh?
[05:43] <Zeptis> Treaver: can you 'ping 91.189.94.156' ?
[05:43] <GatorAlli> cfhowlett: no
[05:43] <phy1729> GatorAlli: check the checksum of the iso you downloaded
[05:43] <gogeta> Treaver: go to the update manaer and settings
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !checksum|GatorAlli
[05:43] <Treaver> No I can't that ip
[05:44] <gogeta> Treaver: you should see mirror settings etc slect other then just hit the slect best buttion
[05:44] <Zeptis> but you can ping everything else, correct?
[05:44] <mercue19100> hi all
[05:44] <Zeptis> hello mercue.
[05:45] <gogeta> Treaver: iits a drop down menu it should say ubntu main atm
[05:45] <cfhowlett> mercue19100: greetings
[05:45] <mercue19100> i use slatiz
[05:45] <Treaver> I checked the main server is that right?
[05:45] <Treaver> It was on canada
[05:46] <gogeta> Treaver: well you can try that
[05:46] <Treaver> :/ I just want to get PlayOnLinux and Eclipse IDE.. So hard
[05:46] <phy1729> I'd still just ping while increasing the TTL to find where the problem is
[05:46] <gogeta> Treaver: but you can also slect other and thers a option there to do a repo scan
[05:47] <mercue19100> vertuel machine with vmware
[05:47] <mercue19100> i setup it correctly
[05:47] <mercue19100> i can't use internet
[05:47] <Zeptis> Treaver: you could use the Arch repositories with git, but that's a little bit more fiddly than apt-get
[05:47] <Treaver> I'm running best mirror scan
[05:47] <Treaver> arch reposs?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> Treaver: I was into ubuntu for years before I learned the magic of localizing my repo mirror.  Best thing evar!
[05:47] <gogeta> Treaver: that will get you a working repo
[05:47] <Zeptis> to get your Eclipse and PlayOnLinux
[05:48] <Treaver> Ok thanks one sec I am workign on finding best server then i will try zeptis way
[05:48] <Zeptis> best of luck, Treaver
[05:48] <gogeta> Treaver: best to sitck to debs lol
[05:49] <Treaver> I was installing a deb and it had to download stuff and it wouldn't cuz of the ubuntu stuff
[05:49] <gogeta> Treaver: its funny how many people dont knoe tha option is there
[05:49] <Zeptis> could you please be more specific, Treaver?
[05:50] <gogeta> Treaver: relly the case when a bug update comes out and the main server gets overloaded
[05:50] <Zeptis> were you using apt-get?
[05:50] <gogeta> big
[05:50] <Treaver> I downloaded the PlayOnLinux.deb and tried to installusing both terminal and software center
[05:50] <Treaver> Both had to download stuff from the ubuntu.com orsomething
[05:50] <gogeta> Zeptis: his apt is just on a down server am
[05:51] <felipe_Brz> i'm having trouble echoing a string to a file even though i'm using sudo. The file is inside /etc/apache2/conf.d ... I'm getting "-bash: Permission denied" error message...
[05:51] <Treaver> Well it might have worked second I will tell ya
[05:51] <felipe_Brz> any tips?
[05:51] <Guest85087> does anybody know a good place to download ebooks?
[05:51] <gogeta> Treaver: run update first being you changed repos
[05:51] <gogeta> Treaver: if that wrking your good
[05:51] <Zeptis> other than scribd, 85087?
[05:52] <Guest85087> what is scribd?
[05:52] <Guest85087> a website?
[05:52] <Zeptis> yes it is
[05:52] <Zeptis> think of it as mediafire for pdfs
[05:52] <Guest85087> let me take a look... is it .com?
[05:52] <wan26> project gutenberg for free ebooks
[05:53] <Phiscribe> http://www.gutenberg.org/
[05:53] <Zeptis> http://scribd.com
[05:53] <WeThePeople> p2p
[05:53] <Zeptis> looking for textbooks, 85087?
[05:54] <Treaver> I think that worked :)
[05:54] <Treaver> I will be back next problem I get (Because we all know there will be one) :P
[05:54] <WeThePeople> felipe_brz, use gksudo nautilus
[05:54] <gogeta> Treaver: lol
[05:54] <Phiscribe> https://play.google.com/store/books has a free books section also
[05:54] <Treaver> (: Ubuntu.com is still offline..
[05:55] <Treaver> on my computer
[05:55] <Guest85087> I want a good place to download all kind of ebooks, but mostly fiction
[05:55] <wan26> try windows manuals
[05:55] <Zeptis> I'd go to gutenburg, then, 85087.
[05:55] <gogeta> Treaver: did you  run apt-get update
[05:55] <Zeptis> scribd is mostly 'liberated' textbooks and the life
[05:55] <fishscene> Treaver: If you ping ubuntu.com, what IP address does it return?
[05:55] <Zeptis> *like
[05:55] <felipe_Brz> WeThePeople:  what?
[05:55] <gogeta> Treaver: then your package should install
[05:56] <gogeta> Treaver: your not using ubuntus servers atm
[05:56] <WeThePeople> felipe_brz, are you trying to edit a file?
[05:56] <Treaver> http://launchpad.net/ -- Repos are offline for me also..
[05:57] <wan26> treaver can you access ubuntu.com via proxy
[05:57] <felipe_Brz> WeThePeople:  no, I was wondering why output redirecting wasn't working but I already fgured it out, thanks
[05:57] <WeThePeople> felipe_brz, nvr mind i got questions mixed
[05:57] <gogeta> Treaver: so we are not talking abought payonlinux now?
[05:58] <Treaver> Yes.. I can get on ubuntu with proxy. I'm scared. Am I blocked?!! Why?!
[05:58] <wan26> that's weird
[05:58] <gogeta> Treaver: have you tryed ubuntu.ca
[05:58] <gogeta> Treaver: it just sounds like the isp is having a issue
[05:58] <ferni> is routing problem propably
[05:59] <ferni> try mtr ubuntu.com
[05:59] <Treaver> :/ I am sad because I don't want to be blocked and I want to download 12.04.1
[05:59] <Treaver> Can I just update using ubuntu to 12.04.1?
[05:59] <wan26> you might be able to download what you need via proxy...
[05:59] <gogeta> Treaver: with your apt fixed you can pdate just fine
[06:00] <gogeta> Treaver: update
[06:00] <Treaver> how do I update to 12.04.1 with command
[06:00] <gogeta> Treaver: in your update manager it should say upgrade avable
[06:00] <Treaver> Nope none available :p
[06:00] <drag0nius> how to list all entries on iptables?
[06:00] <gogeta> Treaver: are you runnning 12.04?
[06:00] <Treaver> Yes
[06:01] <gogeta> Treaver: then you are running that latest version
[06:01] <Treaver> Oh lol why did they change it to 12.04.1
[06:01] <Treaver> :P
[06:01] <Zeptis> Treaver; can you 'sudo apt-get update'?
[06:01] <gogeta> Treaver: thats just a newer iso with all the updates
[06:01] <Treaver> :O Oh
[06:01] <gogeta> Zeptis: yea after he got a new mirror apt is fine
[06:02] <drag0nius> guys, how to list/delete rule from iptables?
[06:02] <drag0nius> i just redirected glassfish to port 80 with some command on net and cannot access http internet anymore xd
[06:02] <wan26> i do it through gufw
[06:02] <mobhero> hi, what will be the name of 27th hard disk drive , like /dev/sda  /dev/sdb ..... /dev/sdz  -- pls help me..42
[06:03] <nonix4> Hmm... www.ubuntu.com, security.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org do not seem to be responding. Is this known issue?
[06:03] <wan26> or sudo ufw status, man ufw
[06:03] <Treaver> Nonix4 I had that same problem 4 minutes ago!@@!
[06:03] <gogeta> nonix4: yes
[06:03] <Treaver> You gotta go to change the server :P
[06:04] <Zeptis> nonix4: I believe that one local server is down
[06:04] <Treaver> If you goto ubuntu.com it doesn't work either!
[06:04] <gogeta> nonix4: seems its down for some people
[06:04] <Treaver> nonix are you on Charter?
[06:05] <nonix4> Treaver: teliasonera
[06:05] <gogeta> Treaver: seems its not responding for me eyther
[06:05] <gogeta> Treaver: nv there it goes
[06:05] <Treaver> :O you too gogeta!
[06:06] <Treaver> What's the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[06:06] <nonix4> traceroute doesn't seem to get past 3 hops @ London1.Level3.net
[06:06] <Zeptis> depends on how you define best
[06:06] <gogeta> Treaver: no big deal im shure it will be back up once the isp sees they have a node down
[06:06] <wan26> pidgin, xchat, irssi, many work well
[06:07] <baizon> im using xchat
[06:07] <crimsonmane> pidgin is not a good irc client because the window resizes as you type beyond the input box's visibility
[06:07] <wan26> i am using a few, xchat mainly
[06:07] <gogeta> crimsonmane: i run is fs so i never notced that
[06:08] <gogeta> it
[06:08] <Treaver> What is 7z, it says I need it for PlayOnLinux
[06:08] <Zeptis> 7z is a file compression manager
[06:08] <gogeta> Treaver: 7zip \
[06:08] <wan26> for 7 zip
[06:08] <Treaver> --7zip?
[06:08] <Zeptis> there's a plugin for the default roller
[06:08] <Treaver> How do I isntall that on linux? I thought we already had archive manager
[06:08] <gogeta> Treaver: its a bit better then rar etc
[06:08] <drag0nius> how would i make glassfish work on port 80 on ubuntu server?
[06:09] <gogeta> Treaver: if it needs it it should grab it
[06:09] <drag0nius> when i simply changed it to 80 in glassfish config i could not restart server
[06:09] <Zeptis> some dude on 7chan made it for delicious cake, originally. lol.
[06:12] <babolatpdtp1> hey all. on shutting down my computer i get "Could not get the system bus…Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory". Any idea how to solve this?
[06:12] <Zeptis> gogeta: earlier, you meant /etc/rc.d, correct?
[06:12] <daolin> sudo apt-get install p7zip
[06:13] <babolatpdtp1> is that to me?
[06:13] <Zeptis> no, babolatpdtp1, I think that was to Treaver.
[06:13] <babolatpdtp1> ah ok
[06:14] <Treaver> Thanks
[06:15] <Treaver> Installing Office 2010 in Ubuntu(: Yay
[06:15] <nonix4> Hmm, sites like http://www.internethealthreport.com/ agree with issue being somewhere in Level3.
[06:16] <babolatpdtp1> anyone have an idea? the directory /var/run/dbus does exist
[06:16] <babolatpdtp1> as does the file it was mentioning
[06:16] <Zeptis> Treaver: not Libreoffice?
[06:17] <Zeptis> I mean, Java is silly, but they're phasing it out
[06:17] <Treaver> I don't like LibreOffice. I'm installing Microsoft Office 2012 for OneNote -- School
[06:18] <Zeptis> :P but that doesn't respect your freedoms
[06:18] <Treaver> What do you mean?
[06:18] <Zeptis> Treaver please search for >>Stallmanquest.ogg
[06:19] <Treaver> What am I looking for
[06:19] <Zeptis> a video on youtube or some other server
[06:19] <wan26> material on the fsf as well
[06:19] <Treaver> which video
[06:19] <Zeptis> for lols, mostly: stallmanquest
[06:20] <Zeptis> excuse me, GNU/stallmanquest
[06:20] <histo> !ot
[06:20] <babolatpdtp1> while you're at it, be sure to join the church of emacs
[06:20] <Treaver> I have those freedoms(:
[06:21] <Zeptis> my pinkies are not ready
[06:21] <babolatpdtp1> hehe
[06:21] <Zeptis> I'm sorry that I don't know why it's giving you a dbus error on shutdown
[06:22] <babolatpdtp1> yeah i don't really get it..the file is clearly there so...
[06:22] <Zeptis> that's interesting; is there a script that you're running on shutdown?
[06:22] <daolin> init 0
[06:23] <Treaver> YES! IT works! Office 2010 in Linux
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Treaver: via wine??
[06:23] <Zeptis> 2C#4me
[06:23] <Treaver> Yes basically cfhowlett
[06:23] <floatingfeijoa> hi, does anyone know how to disable timeout on grub customizer?
[06:23] <histo> !ot | Treaver Zeptis
[06:23] <Walther> Treaver: Now that is something that you should definitely write about in a blog / Forums
[06:23] <babolatpdtp1> Zeptis: nope not that im aware of
[06:24] <Zeptis> sorry histo
[06:26] <Wizard> Good morning.
[06:26] <Zeptis> Trying to replace lightdm, but both /etc/rc.d is empty, and ubu doesn't use a ~/.xinitrc
[06:26] <Wizard> o_O
[06:26] <Zeptis> good very early morning, Wizard.
[06:26] <Zeptis> also, lol
[06:27] <Zeptis> what's calling lightdm so I can replace that line with whatever session manager I prefer?
[06:27] <Wizard> Zeptis: try dpkg-reconfigure your-dm
[06:27] <Wizard> /etc/init.d/lightdm
[06:28] <Wizard> But it depends on some configuration.
[06:28] <Zeptis> thanks for the second one
[06:28] <Zeptis> I'm not trying to go back to Level3 user, just a shell
[06:29] <rax-> if I used dist-upgrade && echo 'complete' it should wait until the upgrade has finished before doing the echo right?
[06:30] <Wizard> http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-boot-debian-in-text-mode-instead-of-graphical-mode-gui.html
[06:30] <Wizard> rax-: Right.
[06:30] <Wizard> But only if dist-upgrade returns 0.
[06:30] <rax-> hm ok
[06:31] <rax-> is it likely to not return 0 ?
[06:32] <Wizard> rax-: Probably if upgrade will go wrong.
[06:40] <histo> Zeptis: I told you how to bypass it earlier or you can service lightdm remove
[06:41] <Zeptis> sorry histo, lightdm actually decided to butt in and stopped my openbox
[06:42] <Zeptis> I'm editing /etc/X11/default-display-manager now
[06:42] <histo> Zeptis: Zeptis: you can sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/lightdm.override   to disable it from autostarting on boot.  Then to renable just sudo rm /etc/init.lightdm.override
[06:42] <histo> is the other way
[06:42] <hermanlf> how can I easily set ubuntu 12.04.1 to use a proxy?
[06:42] <Zeptis> it denied me access using sudo
[06:42] <Zeptis> but it's cool, I got it from here, thank you
[06:43] <wan26> settings>network
[06:44] <histo> hermanlf: desktop or server?
[06:44] <hermanlf> desktop
[06:44] <hermanlf> wan26's suggestion works.  Thanks a bunch.
[06:44] <histo> hermanlf: click on the network icon by the clock and edit connections
[06:44] <hermanlf> got it thanks
[06:45] <histo> Zeptis: what denied you access?
[06:45] <wan26> what was all that? just now?
[06:46] <brontosaurusrex> wan26, that was floodbots flooding the channel.
[06:46] <histo> wan26: what floodbot?
[06:47] <timfrost> histo: redirection operators  such as ">>" won't work with sudo  as the redirection is done by *your shell* before sudo is invoked.
[06:47] <wan26> yeah i wondered what was going on,
[06:48] <histo> wow two remote do-release-upgrades from 10.04 to 12.04 went okay over ssh without a hitch
[06:48] <histo> timfrost: oh yeah the modifying of lightdm.override
[06:48] <histo> timfrost: didn't understand what he was talking about
[06:48] <Guest66064> help required on Ubuntu 12.04 Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] not working
[06:49] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: talk to me
[06:49] <brontosaurusrex> histo, ubuntu server?
[06:49] <histo> !broadcom | Guest66064
[06:49] <histo> brontosaurusrex: yeah two servers
[06:49] <Zeptis> as I said earlier, I found /etc/init.d/lightdm, so I'm just having that 'exec openbox-session'
[06:49] <Guest66064> cfhowlett  thanks.. can u tell me how to get this thing working.. i am new to ubuntu
[06:49] <brontosaurusrex> histo, cool, i have one lucid waiting, so no problems to 12.04 ?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: what installation method did you use?
[06:50] <calcfreak83>  /part
[06:50] <histo> brontosaurusrex: nope none seen just a few prompts along the way about obsolete packages
[06:50] <brontosaurusrex> right
[06:50] <Guest66064> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 works fine
[06:50] <riz0n> Hey guys, I have configured postfix and dovecot on ubuntu 12.04, but when I send a test message to the server, the mail goes to /var/mail/user ... what do I need to change to have it go to ~/Maildir ?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: what method did you use to install the broadcom driver?
[06:51] <histo> brontosaurusrex: the do-release-upgrade script also starts a secondary sshd listening on 1022 just incase.  I used screen also just so I didn't lose the tty along the way for a connection issue
[06:51] <garmet> hello! Do anyone know of a 'remote desktop' software that has decent performance? I've tried vnc and X11forwarding over ssh. Both had quite poor performance.
[06:52] <wan26> google has a cross platform plugin for their browser that accomplishes that garmet
[06:52] <brontosaurusrex> histo, any special url where those instructions are writen?
[06:52] <Guest66064> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source this says it is alredy installed
[06:52] <histo> garmet: teamviewer works rather well
[06:52] <brontosaurusrex> gardar, nomachine perhaps
[06:52] <brontosaurusrex> i mean garmet
[06:52] <Guest66064> chflowlett   sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source but says that it is already installed
[06:52] <histo> brontosaurusrex: next time you ssh into your lucid box you will see them at the message prompt since 12.04.1 is out
[06:52] <Guest66064> i upgraded 12.04 thru cable net
[06:53] <brontosaurusrex> histo, i see
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: personally, I went straight to the STA - No Internet Access method and had my wifi up and running in minutes.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:53] <histo> brontosaurusrex: it will notify that a new version is availible and sudo do-release-upgrade to install
[06:53] <histo> !upgrade | brontosaurusrex
[06:53] <histo> brontosaurusrex: the upgradnotes page has more info
[06:53] <Guest66064> cfhowlett  i am following the steps in it
[06:54] <Guest66064> cfhowlett    ~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl says "wl" not found
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: no you're not.  STA No Internet Access option means you're NOT using apt-get install.  Read the tutorial
[06:54] <brontosaurusrex> histo, running
[06:54] <garmet> wan26 , histo , brontosaurusrex I will look into these thx.
[06:55] <Guest66064> cfhowlett can i post the result somewhere for you to see
[06:55] <thufir_> I'm not sure which mailman I'm using, but it's ubuntu 12.04.  I'm not able to initialize a new list:  https://gist.github.com/3485273  newmail returns:  Illegal list name: mailman@dur    however, the hostname is the FQDN dur.bounceme.net so I'm not sure where mailman is getting that domain name.
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !paste|Guest66064
[07:00] <Binbo> hi guys, by default, is the NIC has been set with a limit below its full capacity?
[07:00] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, perhaps : service --status-all
[07:00] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, and go from there
[07:02] <thufir_> brontosaurusrex:  [ ? ]  mailman is the status.  but the problem is that it used "mailman@dur" and not "mailman@dur.bounceme.net" .  It seems a somewhat common problem without apparent solution:  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052587.html
[07:03] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, sorry, too dumb in mail stuff here, once or twice i set the postfix, but i forgot everything (on purpose) ...
[07:04] <thufir_> brontosaurusrex: I hear you.  It's finicky stuff, very old school.
[07:04] <ansi_> chhowlett i installed it through synaptics package manager
[07:05] <cfhowlett> ansi_: right.  Never worked for me which is why I adopted the STA no internet access method - which, fwiw, never failed me.
[07:05] <floatingfeijoa> Hi, how do I configure Burg?
[07:05] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, i could't put that better :)
[07:05] <cfhowlett> ansi_: of course, ymmv
[07:05] <ansi_> cfhowlett can u send me the link
[07:05] <ansi_> again please
[07:06] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|ansi_
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ansi_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[07:07] <robl> On the 12.04 installer, why can't I resize the windows 7 main partition?
[07:08] <ansi_> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 as step one gives this 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01)
[07:08] <ansi_> what next
[07:08] <Zeptis> try gedit, robl
[07:08] <robl> You mean the editor?
[07:09] <Zeptis> oh man, it's late; gparted.
[07:09] <Zeptis> sorry
[07:09] <robl> No prob.
[07:09] <robl> Is there some reason the graphical installer can't do that?
[07:09] <robl> Just not mature enough?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> ansi_: go to the STA no internet access section of the tutorial
[07:10] <ansi_>  it says      bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version
[07:10] <Zeptis> seriously, I'm an ubuntu noob. I sort of switched over from Mandrake.
[07:10] <Zeptis> I have no idea
[07:10] <daolin> robl：I resize that in windows by easeus
[07:10] <robl> easeus?
[07:10] <daolin> yes
[07:11] <Zeptis> better to use daolin's method unless you remember how much disk windows is actively using
[07:11] <robl> It's fresh windows 7 install.
[07:12] <robl> I need maybe 100 gigs on top of the default.
[07:12] <Zeptis> then the size is ~40GB then
[07:12] <ansi_> cfhowlett but i have internet access through wire
[07:12] <robl> Cool.  So 150GB should be plenty.
[07:12] <Zeptis> right on, robl
[07:12] <ansi_> so do i still need to do the steps for no internet access
[07:12] <robl> Cool.  Thanks guys.
[07:12] <Zeptis> best of luck with the dual boot
[07:12] <Cork> anyone know whats up with launchpad?
[07:13] <cfhowlett> ansi_: OK, well, best to ask someone else.  I use the no internet method because it ALWAYS worked for me.
[07:13] <Pitel_laptop> any idea why ubuntu.com is not reachable from here? tracepath shows it ends in ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net
[07:13] <robl> Is gparted on the graphical installer?
[07:13] <ansi_> cfhowlette   ansi@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[07:13] <ansi_> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[07:13] <Zeptis> I don't believe so
[07:13] <ansi_> cfhowlett  ansi@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[07:13] <ansi_> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[07:13] <robl> Ah.  Fastest way to boot gparted?
[07:14] <Zeptis> you can 'sudo apt-get gparted'
[07:14] <Cork> Pitel_laptop: its prob a datacenter thats down or something, ubuntu.com and launchpad.net is both down
[07:14] <ansi_> can anyone help me with STA broadcom driver installation on ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <cfhowlett> ansi_: just for grins and giggles, did you try sudo modprobe wl ??
[07:16] <ansi_> yes i did..
[07:16] <Zeptis> ansi_"
[07:16] <Zeptis> do you have a way of getting a tar.gz onto the other computer?
[07:16] <ansi_> and it says
[07:16] <ansi_> sudo modprobe wl
[07:16] <ansi_> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[07:16] <ansi_> FATAL: Error running install command for wl
[07:16] <robl> gparted is on the graphical install
[07:16] <robl> (yay!)
[07:17] <Zeptis> because there's: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[07:17] <ansi_> Zeptis what should i do?
[07:17] <daolin> ansi_ :maybe you can install backtrack first,then update ubuntu12.04.1:  )
[07:17] <Zeptis> are you currently on the computer in question?
[07:17] <ansi_> command for it?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Zeptis: yep. I used to do that one but then discovered that the STA No Internet tutorial was MUCH easier
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|daolin
[07:18] <Cork> Pitel_laptop: looks like canonical has been moving its servers to a new datacenter https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[07:18] <daolin> sorry
[07:19] <Pitel_laptop> Cork: thanks
[07:19] <Zeptis> ansi_: x86 or amd64?
[07:19] <ansi_> x86
[07:20] <Zeptis> this should work: "wget http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar.gz"
[07:21] <ansi_> how do i run this
[07:21] <Zeptis> you untar it with file roller, then follow the readme to make it
[07:22] <cfhowlett> ansi_: instructions are here: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[07:24] <Zeptis> whelp, just edited init.d to autostart openbox and got that .sh set up. Here's hoping X doesn't throw a fit and start foaming at the mouth or anything. Thanks for the help #ubuntu
[07:25] <hermanlf> there does not seem to be a place to enter username/pass for a proxy in "Network Proxy" settings.  How can I utilize my username/pass?
[07:28] <Zeptis> well, x complained about a broken pipe, but openbox started anyway.
[07:29] <brontosaurusrex> is there a command line option to convert xlsx (excel) doc to html ?
[07:30] <Zeptis> I'll help you look for one, bronto
[07:31] <Zeptis> xhtml or html with tables?
[07:31] <ssta_> brontosaurusrex: maybe something like: libreoffice --convert-to html foo.xlsx
[07:31] <brontosaurusrex> Zeptis, dont care, but its a huge file, both gnumeric and libre calc are tottaly scared
[07:32] <brontosaurusrex> ssta_, let me try ...
[07:32] <Kartagis> I'm in the process of purchasing a dedicated server, but I need some advice. can I ask here or does such a channel exist?
[07:33] <drag0nius> what is some nice web shell soft?
[07:33] <Super_Dog> Kartagis:  Why don't you try #ubuntu-server channle?
[07:33] <Kartagis> Super_Dog: thanks
[07:34] <Super_Dog> Ask over there and I'll tell you what I know...
[07:34] <Zeptis> how big are we talking?
[07:34] <antoine__> hellow
[07:34] <antoine__> I have a little probleme I don't know how can I creat a ftp server on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[07:36] <timfrost> !ftpd | antoine__
[07:36] <Zeptis> I use Filezilla, Antoine__, but I'm largely ignorant, so I'm sure there's something better.
[07:36] <brontosaurusrex> antoine__, sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd or similar
[07:38] <Wizard> /o\
[07:38] <Amy4ka> íÿ^^
[07:38] <Zeptis> bronto: how large is that xmlx file?
[07:38] <Wizard> *Such* problems require IRC question?
[07:38] <Wizard> My God.
[07:38] <Wizard> World will end in December, definitely ;P
[07:38] <brontosaurusrex> Zeptis, hmm, not that huge, says 3.2 Megs
[07:39] <Zeptis> there are web apps for that, but I haven't found anything for linux that isn't attached to another *Office yet
[07:39] <brontosaurusrex> Zeptis, google docs refuses conversion
[07:40] <Zeptis> zamzar?
[07:40] <ssta_> must be *enormous*
[07:43] <floatingfeijoa> hi does anyone know how I can add new OS's to burg?
[07:43] <floatingfeijoa> (burg/grub2)
[07:44] <Zeptis> do you know the partition the OSes are on?
[07:44] <DaDaDOSPrompt> Is there a menu in pidgin for selecting a webcam and mic device?
[07:45] <floatingfeijoa> yes Zeptis
[07:47] <floatingfeijoa> does anyone know how I can add new OS's to burg/grub2?
[07:48] <ssta_> bbro
[07:49] <ssta_> brontosaurusrex: with a simple test xlsx I made, conversion to html by libreoffice seems to be not working properly.  Conversion to pdf works well though
[07:49] <W4sp> floatingfeijoa: burg doesn't come with Ubuntu and therefore burgh not supported here.
[07:49] <Zeptis> floatingfeijoa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:51] <floatingfeijoa> W4sp -_-
[07:52] <Zeptis> okay. So I swapped out lightdm with openbox, but now ALSA isn't working, even with force-reload. How am I being dumb?
[07:54] <Zeptis> alternative question: what's the searchable name of the ubuntu sound plugin?
[07:54] <knobo> is ubuntu.com down?
[07:54] <floatingfeijoa> knobo: nope
[07:55] <Zeptis> knobo: it's not for me, but users in Europe and other places seem to be having problems with it
[07:55] <Zeptis> Canonical is doing something and the traceroutes don't get past London, from what I've heard.
[07:55] <knobo> I'm probably in Europe or other place then...
[07:55] <knobo> Any us proxy I can use?
[07:56] <Zeptis> socks?
[07:56] <ferni> here in finland only one isp (sonera) has problems, with other ubuntu.com etc works fine
[07:56] <Jordan_U> floatingfeijoa: BURG only ever had one developer, and he stopped developing it two years ago (according to the commit history at https://code.launchpad.net/~bean123ch/burg/trunk ). GRUB2 has theming support as well.
[07:57] <knobo> hidemya...com worked :)
[07:58] <Daghdha> Hi, several times an hour (7 to 10 times) my bouncer loses connection with the internet. I think it may be related to a network problem on ubuntu, is there anyway to see if my network driver is crashing?
[07:58] <Wizard> Daghdha: dmesg.
[07:58] <Wizard> I would blame poor connection :>
[07:59] <Zeptis> Wizard: do you happen to know the name of the default ubuntu sound server?
[07:59] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: your network driver is *not* crashing
[08:00] <Wizard> Zeptis: PulseAudio.
[08:00] <Zeptis> thanks mate.
[08:00] <Wizard> And ubuntu.com works for me, in Europe.
[08:00] <Zeptis> >>pa_pid_file_create() failed
[08:00] <Zeptis> lol
[08:00] <Daghdha> gordonjcp: Then what is causing it?
[08:00] <Wizard> pa like PulseAudio? :P
[08:01] <Zeptis> that's the output if 'pulseaudio' in bash
[08:01] <Zeptis> time to config Jack or something, I guess XD
[08:01] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: flaky internet connection, most likely
[08:01] <Zeptis> might be your DNS, Daghdha
[08:01] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: where is it running?
[08:02] <Daghdha> I like to rule out things.
[08:02] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: you can safely rule out "crashing network drivers"
[08:02] <Daghdha> It's not DNS
[08:02] <Zeptis> what error does your browser return, Daghdha?
[08:03] <Daghdha> a bouncer is a program that relays IRC
[08:03] <rauf> ls
[08:03] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: where is it running?
[08:03] <Daghdha> The bouncer has timeouts, wich is very annoying for the channels i am in.
[08:03] <wan26> is it a free one
[08:03] <Zeptis> thanks for schooling me, Daghdha.
[08:04] <Daghdha> yw
[08:04] <marian2> hei guys. i need a good tutorial on how to admin your own VPS with UbuntuOS on it. any recommandation?
[08:05] <gordonjcp> marian2: it's the same as any other server
[08:05] <gordonjcp> the fact that it's on a VPS makes no practical difference
[08:06] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: what are you running your bouncer on?
[08:06] <Daghdha> ubuntu
[08:07] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: can you be more specific?
[08:07] <Daghdha> 12.04
[08:07] <gordonjcp> no, I mean is it on a remote server, on a box at home, how are you doing it?
[08:07] <Daghdha> Oh, ok. It is on my NAS in my LAN.
[08:08] <newbie|2> Hello all, used UBuntu a few years ago & I'm rusty, I was trying to install an new  program & messed up the code.  Now it wont install & giving me this error: E: Type 'ddeb' is not known on line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <newbie|2> E: The list of sources could not be read
[08:08] <newbie|2> I think ths ddeb is the issue, how do i clear that out?
[08:08] <Wizard> Change ddeb to deb ;)
[08:09] <newbie|2> how?
[08:09] <newbie|2> sorry a rusty newb
[08:09] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: okay, and you're connecting from outside your house?
[08:10] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: most likely a) your internet connection at home is flaky and dropping out, or b) your internet connection at home is picking up new DHCP leases more frequently than you'd like and dropping connections
[08:10] <Daghdha> No
[08:10] <gordonjcp> newbie|2: with an editor, similar to the one you changed it with in the first place?
[08:11] <newbie|2> I used the terminal (how do i send you private message like that?
[08:11] <Daghdha> I need to know, no offense, i can make these assumptions myself. But i need to make sure it's not the NAS
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: there is no way your network driver is crashing
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: it's unlikely the bouncer is crashing
[08:11] <gordonjcp> it's infinitely more likely that it's your internet connection
[08:12] <Daghdha> yes, it's not ubuntu. I get it.
[08:12]  * Daghdha keeps looking.
[08:13] <yinhai_> stty size
[08:14] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: have a look at the stats from your modem
[08:14] <yinhai_> I can't use the nicklist with tmux, spend 30 minuts!!!
[08:15] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: a home internet connection isn't going to be 100% solid for what you want
[08:16] <Zeptis> oh boy, now ALSA won't reload
[08:16] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: you really need something with a static IP address, at least
[08:18] <Daghdha> I have static IP. Bouncer been up without issue for months
[08:18] <gordonjcp> hm
[08:19] <gordonjcp> okay, so check the stats on your modem
[08:21] <Zeptis> okay, figured out what it's doing, at least. Pulseaudio isn't outputting to my headphones, but will output via built-in speakers.
[08:22] <Daghdha> It doesn't do much logging gordonjcp. I'd have to make it log to an snmp server
[08:23] <abdelghani> good morning
[08:24] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: does it have anything that shows how long it's been connected?
[08:24] <Daghdha> yes, that corresponds with the last reset of the modem 12 hours ago.
[08:25] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: and has your bouncer dropped since then?
[08:25] <Daghdha> about 60 times
[08:26] <Hemebond> Hi all. I need to install libsdl-dev, but libext-dev conflicts with libext-dev:i386 and so apt appears to want to remove all the related i386 packages. Any way to not do that? Pretty sure I need some of them for x86 games. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 x86-64.
[08:26] <Daghdha> during those drops DNS lookups also fail, i see that in the logs of NAS. So it's either NAS not able to network or ISP down. So it's all assumptions from there.
[08:26] <newbie|2> guys I am trying to save a file but having permissions errors, how do I give myself full permission to edit & save files?  trying to edit sources.list
[08:26] <Daghdha> What i will do is connect with IRC client to same server. From this PC. And see if NAS and PC both time out.
[08:27] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: it really, really sounds like your internet connection is dropping
[08:27] <Daghdha> at the same time.
[08:27] <k1l_> newbie|2: run "sudo nano path/to/file" in terminal
[08:27] <gordonjcp> I like your idea of setting up a logging server
[08:27] <Daghdha> Yes, i know this sounds like it. But i need 100%
[08:27] <newbie|2> ok running that code will give me permissions?
[08:28] <k1l_> newbie|2: it opens an editor in the terminal, in which you can edit the file
[08:28] <k1l_> newbie|2: but are you sure, you want to edit the sources.list?
[08:29] <newbie|2> yes I mispelled ddeb instead of deb & i'm stuck
[08:29] <Zeptis> >>How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us.
[08:29] <Zeptis> >>(openbox recieved signal 11)
[08:29] <Zeptis> >>xinit connection to X server lost
[08:29] <Zeptis> funniest log file in a long time
[08:29] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: heh, what
[08:29] <k1l_> newbie|2: then run the command i mentioned. sort out the typo and safe
[08:30] <Zeptis> I got rid of lightdm and unity, and was playing with the sound
[08:30] <k1l_> newbie|2: but yoou shouldnt be fiddleing with these files imho
[08:30] <Zeptis> then X got angry at me because gnome-system-monitor tried to do something with a window manager when I'm not using one
[08:30] <Zeptis> I've never seen this
[08:31] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:31] <Zeptis> yo cristian
[08:31] <cristian_c> I've installed easy-deb with virtualenv
[08:31] <cristian_c> Zeptis, hi
[08:32] <k1l_> newbie|2: support only here in the channel
[08:32] <Zeptis> specifically: >>'_OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE Unhandled action type' /n >>xinit connection lost
[08:32] <newbie|2> I just edited a file in terminal via sudo nano, how do i save & exit the file in termial now?
[08:32] <k1l_> newbie|2: crtl+o for saving, crtl+x for exit
[08:33] <cristian_c> I've seen what software are installed in the virtual environment (with yolk -l command) and I've not found easydeb in the output list. instead, I've found some applications that I've not installed inside the virtual environment, but outside. How is it possible this?
[08:34] <newbie|2> awesome checking it to see if it works now
[08:34] <cristian_c> What can be happened? Do you have any ideas?
[08:35] <Zeptis> I'm sorry, cristian, I've yet to use a VM.
[08:36] <cristian_c> Zeptis, thanks :) But I'm not using a virtualmachine, but a software called virtualenv
[08:36] <cristian_c> I'm using a software called virtualenv: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python-virtualenv
[08:39] <Zeptis> Cristian: this person experienced something similar, maybe it could help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2742980/virtualenv-yolk-problem
[08:40] <cristian_c> Zeptis, thanks for the link, I see immedately :)
[08:40] <cristian_c> Zeptis, thanks very very much ^_^
[08:40] <Zeptis> you're welcome
[08:42] <Zeptis> Does anyone know how to get PulseAudio to switch between built-in speakers and headphone jack in CLI? It's only working for my built-in speakers, at the moment.
[08:43] <cristian_c> Zeptis, I have a look about it :)
[08:43] <cristian_c> pulse-audio switching
[08:45] <user_> hi all. Having problems with T400 & ubuntu 12 64bits. Just installed, and everything seems to be working fine, until I have noticed "lags" occuring
[08:45] <Zeptis> thanks cristian, I'll try that
[08:45] <user_> every several seconds + if I ty to change display resolution the machine hangs. I have scanned the forums on the internet, and nothing seems
[08:46] <user_> to resolve the issue.
[08:46] <user_> Anyone?
[08:46] <Zeptis> user_, only when you change resolutions, or when you try to use anything larger than default?
[08:47] <user_> Zeptis: anything..
[08:47] <Zeptis> what GPU are you using?
[08:47] <cristian_c> Zeptis, I'm searching yet :D
[08:48] <user_> Zeptis: welp, how do I know that?
[08:48] <user_> :)
[08:49] <cristian_c> Zeptis, maybe you could use hda-verb
[08:50] <user_> Zep: oh, got ur question:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[08:50] <user_> (lspci provided that line)
[08:50] <cristian_c> Zeptis, you should study this subject :)
[08:51] <Crataegus> Hello guys, Just wondering can I add another keyboard layout when on Ubuntu 12.04 live CD
[08:51] <Zeptis> okay, that's helpful; try 'grep video /etc/group', user_
[08:51] <Zeptis> I will read that documentation, thanks cristian
[08:52] <cristian_c> Tool to send commands (verbs) to HD-Audio codecs
[08:52] <cristian_c> hda-verb is a tiny program that allows you to access the HD-audio
[08:52] <cristian_c> codecs directly, allowing you to send commands (verbs) to them. For
[08:52] <cristian_c> hda-verb to work you must be running a linux kernel with CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP option enabled.
[08:52] <user_> Zep: video:x:44:
[08:52] <Zeptis> user_: does that return anything?
[08:53] <Zeptis> derp
[08:53] <Zeptis> nvm
[08:53] <user_> Zep: yes, video:x:44:
[08:53] <Zeptis> groupadd -G video %youruser%
[08:54] <cristian_c> Zeptis, maybe with hda-verb you can write a script to switch them
[08:54] <cristian_c> :)
[08:55] <Zeptis> user_: as grep and /etc/proc pointed out, you're not part of the video usergroup, so adding yourself will allow your binaries access to hardware acceleration.
[08:56] <Zeptis> I don't know why Ubuntu doesn't do this by default
[08:56] <Zeptis> then again, Ubu does a lot of weird stuff
[08:57] <Kartagis> Zeptis: there are many, many programs that require adding yourself to some group. devs can't know all of these
[08:57] <Kartagis> my $ 0.02
[08:58] <user_> Zep: /proc/: thanks! going to try that one. how I do not have to reboot :)
[08:58] <Zeptis> but being part of the video group when there's so much graphics on the web seems silly
[08:58] <Zeptis> *not being
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> howto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?
[09:02] <knobo> when will www.ubuntu.com access from europe be fixed?
[09:03] <Zeptis> knobo: when Canonical gets their servers moved around, I would suppose.
[09:03] <gordonjcp> knobo: what's wrong with it?
[09:03] <gordonjcp> knobo: unhelpful, but wfm...
[09:03] <Zeptis> Do you want a SOCKS proxy?
[09:04] <Zeptis> Gordon: I don't know because I'm an Ameriburger, but traceroute for a number of Euro ISPs stops at London Tier3
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: strange
[09:05] <user_> hehehe, welp had to reboot. machine hanged. and more severe problem: after running groupadd etc, i can not sudo anymore!
[09:05] <user_> it says I'm not in sudo group!
[09:05] <user_> what can be wrong?
[09:06] <user_> or how can I get root now  besides reinstallnig?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> user_: you may have borked your groups
[09:06] <somsip> user_: did you override groups instead of appending to them?
[09:06] <weer> hi,problem: i tried to recover my password of my (only one) account (as instructed here: http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.gr/2012/05/recover-login-password-of-ubuntu-1204.html )
[09:06] <gordonjcp> user_: boot in single-user and tread carefully ;-)
[09:06] <user_> gord: how do i boot single user?
[09:07] <weer> it was successful but whenever i try to log in the screen blanks for a sec and redirects me back to login screen
[09:07] <weer> what should i do?
[09:07] <user_> ok, going to try single user
[09:08] <vm> hi how to know which version the ubuntu is installed?
[09:08] <wan26> uname
[09:08] <gordonjcp> user_: if you look on the wiki there are pretty comprehensive instructions
[09:08] <hateball> vm: run "lsb_release -a"
[09:08] <gordonjcp> vm: cat /etc/issue
[09:09] <wan26> i wonder, how many ways there is to check lol
[09:09] <knobo> Zeptis: it's not so important, but thanx.
[09:09] <Stealth2k12> hi I am new to Linux, What is the best version of Linux to Install?
[09:09] <wan26> ubuntu
[09:09] <Zeptis> what is best in life, Stealth?
[09:09] <knobo> gordonjcp: it's unaccessable from some places.
[09:09] <Zeptis> this is what you must answer for yourself
[09:09] <somsip> Stealth2k12: here, Ubuntu would be the usuall recommendation
[09:09] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: traceroute shows "odd" results, actually browsing to it works just fine
[09:09] <vm> gordonjcp: yes
[09:09] <weer> ?
[09:10] <vm> hateball: doesnot work
[09:10] <gordonjcp> !best | Stealth2k12
[09:10] <vm> wan26: uname gives os version not ubuntu version
[09:10] <wan26> vm try settings>details
[09:10] <Zeptis> Ubuntu's answer is "ease of use", Stealth2k12. If you want something very customizable, it's really the wrong distro.
[09:11] <gordonjcp> most people don't really want "very customisable"
[09:11] <hateball> vm: you'd need to run it in a terminal
[09:11] <Zeptis> archlinux users
[09:11] <An_Ony_Moose> I removed a bunch of photos from my shotwell library but didn't move them into the file manager trash. Is it possible to do this now?
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I used to use Arch but I switched back to Ubuntu
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I prefer Arch's package management but I can't be bothered with all the hassle of installing
[09:11] <hateball> !ot
[09:12] <gordonjcp> Stealth2k12: you're asking in #ubuntu, so most people are likely to tell you Ubuntu
[09:13] <Zeptis> Stealth2k12: what sort of relationship do you want you and your Linux?
[09:14] <Zeptis> Ubuntu has really cool package management, a great driver base, development schedules that don't work on Africa-time, and a huge community to ask questions about
[09:14] <Stealth2k12> ok
[09:14] <Stealth2k12> I have learned some basics from using Backtrack
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> howto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?
[09:14] <Stealth2k12> isthat good or bad
[09:15] <t4nk951> IS there still an wifi issue in ubuntu 12.04 ??
[09:15] <wan26> Stealth2k12 was backtrack your first experience using linux?
[09:15] <t4nk951> Bcoz  i m using 10.04 and there is wifi issue in 10.04 so I m thinking of upgrading it .
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | wan26
[09:16] <weer> sorry to interfere but im facing a big problem,is there something i can do for my situation?
[09:16] <wan26> i was going to then compare it to ubuntu lotus... then end it there. sorry.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> t4nk951: its highly recommended you upgrade to precise 12.04.1
[09:16] <Zeptis> Stealth: backtrack has a very minimal UI compared to the rather heavy Unity/Lightdm/Nautilus used by Ubu. Ubu is for a desktop computer experience, generally.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> weer: reask your question once in a while in channel mate
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> t4nk951: even better, clean install precise ; )
[09:18] <t4nk951> ok
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !unity | t4nk951
[09:19] <An_Ony_Moose> !notunity > An_Ony_Moose
[09:21] <t4nk951> ok
[09:21] <hsn> !radeon
[09:21] <t4nk951> lotuspsychje : But what about wifi issue on it ??
[09:21] <rusty149> hi, I can't login to Ubuntu using my main account. It accepts password then asks again in a loop. I can login to guest account though. Any Ideas?
[09:22] <wan26> t4nk951, simply upgrading sometimes solves wifi issues, but its best to search your wifi model in the ubuntu forums etc
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> t4nk951: what about you provide us more info about your problem you have on 10.04? card brand? wpa security?
[09:22] <notwo> the applicatiuons I install with wine, how can I ran them later?
[09:23] <An_Ony_Moose> notwo: usually they appear in the Applications menu and/or on the desktop.
[09:23] <An_Ony_Moose> notwo: if they don't you'll have to run them from a terminal as far as I know
[09:23] <Zeptis> !notunity > Zeptis
[09:24] <notwo> aha
[09:25] <wan26> notwo the files may be in your home folder under .wine
[09:25] <notwo> ok I will check
[09:27] <rusty149> hi, I can't login to Ubuntu using my main account. It accepts password then asks again in a loop. I can login to guest account though. Any Ideas?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> rusty149:did you forget the old password?
[09:28] <An_Ony_Moose> rusty149: are you typing it right? Capslock?
[09:28] <rusty149> no, it accepts it then reloads the lightdm login screen. I tried incorrect pass and that displays red text as normal. I can login to tty1
[09:29] <An_Ony_Moose> rusty149: aaah... my dad had that issue too. it had something to do with gconf. Try renaming ~/.gconf to ~/.gconf-backup then try logging in again
[09:30] <carsten_db> I have a set of 3D video files in mkv format (SBS). I'm using xbmcbuntu on a mini-computer that is a dedicated mediacenter box. Most of the files play fine under xbmc. however, one of them seems to be broken: when playing, it only shows a flashing green screen. The audio however works flawlessly, plus the file plays fine under with vlc under archlinux on my notebook. what can I do to fix this?
[09:31] <carsten_db> side remark: playing the video causes xbmc to crash - I cannot stop the video, and even killing xbmc leaves the machine in a non-responsive state. I therefore think it might be a graphics-driver issue.
[09:31] <gordonjcp> carsten_db: only *one* file out of a set?
[09:31] <rusty149> An_Ony_Moose: Thanks. I have solved it now. ~/.Xauthority was owned by root instead of me. Weird
[09:32] <Zeptis> have you tried using it in VLC on Ubu, carsten?
[09:32] <gordonjcp> it's probably a corrupt file then
[09:32] <carsten_db> they are not a set in a sense that they belong together, but of the files I own, only one produce this behaviour.
[09:32] <_037> whois _037
[09:32] <carsten_db> gordonjcp: but why does it play fine with vlc on my notebook?
[09:33] <carsten_db> gordonjcp: I even tried vlc under ubuntu on the mediacenter box - crash. but mplayer works... *confused*
[09:33] <carsten_db> gordonjcp: thinking that copying the file over might have corrupted it, i compared md5sums - identical
[09:34] <rusty149> carsten_db: you can try playing the file with vlc from terminal. It may output a message that it is able to overcome issue.
[09:34] <An_Ony_Moose> rusty149: odd. well good thing you solved it
[09:35] <carsten_db> rusty149: thanks, I'll try that
[09:35] <primski> hello, using Network Manager and shared connection over wifi as Hotspot, how can I set a DNS server that is being sent down to client?
[09:36] <An_Ony_Moose> I removed a bunch of photos from my shotwell library but didn't move them into the desktop trash. Is it possible to remove them now?
[09:36] <floatingfeijoa> hi, where do I add a chainloading entry?
[09:37] <wan26> carsten_db, maybe try repairing a copy of that mkv file with something like Meteorite which is a repair engine,
[09:37] <Zeptis> do you remember what directory shotwell was using, Moose?
[09:39] <carsten_db> wan26: thanks a lot, I'll look into that
[09:41] <Zeptis> is there a way to get dpkg to be more verbose?
[09:41] <cristian_c> Zeptis, I think so
[09:42] <cristian_c> Zeptis, it depends by what you mean with 'more'
[09:43] <al2> hello testing
[09:43] <Zeptis> hello al2
[09:43] <user_> hi folks. major problems here... how do i boot into single user using wubi?
[09:44] <user_> searched the web, but nada....
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> !wubi
[09:46] <carsten_db> this is the log from vlc player: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169553/
[09:46] <user_> ubottu: Thanks for the info. I already installed ubuntu using wubi. after messing around groups, my user can no longer sudo - hence i can not root anymore to my system.
[09:47] <user_> LOL
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> carsten_db:you got all codecs needed to play your special mkv's?
[09:50] <krababbel> On a desktop without Gnome, is there any recommended utility to put the PC to sleep or hibernation? pm-utils work here, but I read that I shouldn't invoke it manually.
[09:50] <carsten_db> lotuspsychje: I hope so, how can I check?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> carsten_db:maybe you can try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:51] <An_Ony_Moose> user_: don't mess around with groups. Do you have a root password set?
[09:53] <notwo> I am having trouble
[09:53] <notwo> cant find it
[09:53] <notwo> :(
[09:53] <carsten_db> lotuspsychje: thanks, I'll give it a try. how can I find out the coded of the file anyway? I tried "file"; but that only responds "Matroska data"
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> carsten_db: many times the mkv shows the info in title, lke many mediadrives cant play 'HQ' mkv's
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> carsten_db: AC3 is also a hard one for many players
[09:56] <carsten_db> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks :-)
[09:58] <carsten_db> it seems the codec is H264 MPEG-4 AVC1 (whatever that means :-) )
[09:59] <Zeptis> krababbel: pm-suspend and pm-hibernate, maybe?
[10:01] <krababbel> Zeptis: I can use them, I am not sure if it is the recommended way to do, some tutorial says that doing it manually like that without any frameworks should only be done for debugging.
[10:01] <carsten_db> installing ubuntu-restricted-extras leads to occasional updates of the screen (every 10 seconds or so) whereas it was completely black beforehand... I guess this is an improvement :-)
[10:02] <ber> where is the shell in unity ?
[10:02] <krababbel> Zeptis: so I thought maybe there is a daemon or something for that for users.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> carsten_db: maybe your grafix card cant handle specific codec mkv's?
[10:03] <T_H_X> ber: search for Terminal
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> howto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?
[10:04] <T_H_X> then drag the icon into the friggen bar
[10:04] <ber> where is the f·$% shell please tell me
[10:04] <Zeptis> or just type console
[10:04] <Zeptis> it's bash, but doesn't respond to that
[10:04] <blackshirt> lotuspsychje, your mouse?
[10:05] <Zeptis> lolbuntu
[10:05] <ber> do not work
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:yes mate
[10:05] <carsten_db> might be, afaik it's a AMD Radeon HD 6310
[10:05] <ber> i miss 10.4 lts
[10:05] <blackshirt> unusual
[10:06] <Zeptis> I miss being able to switch to user level 2 and still have support for features, ber.
[10:07] <wan26> ber , tried ctrl+alt+t ?
[10:07] <ber> alt + f2 dont work
[10:08] <Zeptis> ctrl+alt+f1
[10:08] <ber> wan26 you are my new idol
[10:08] <Zeptis> !nounity
[10:08] <ber> tnks!!!!
[10:09] <wan26> np... if thats what you were actually after
[10:09] <Zeptis> well, time to download some ISOs and move to less RAM intensive pastures, I guess.
[10:09] <DarkStar1> Hi all. I just connected a monitor to my machine. which has an nVidia GPU. After restart all seems fine except when I launched netbeans. The window is opened but it seems to be opened out of view
[10:09] <Zeptis> bye #ubuntu
[10:09] <DarkStar1> how can I bring all windows back into view
[10:10] <ber> bye  see you !! tnks a lot!!
[10:11] <carsten_db> doesn't meteorite have a package yet?
[10:11] <MaMaD> My Jupiter Notify Auto Change to this Skin http://image.kuheo.com/pic/89fbd1aec443.png ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Why???????
[10:12] <An_Ony_Moose> I've written a little (ugly) script to solve my shotwell problem. Anyone interested/where should I put it?
[10:12] <DarkStar1> Anyone?
[10:13] <ThinkT510> An_Ony_Moose: if you want to share it put it in a pastebin
[10:13] <An_Ony_Moose> MaMaD: first of all, please try typing normally. Secondly, you probably changed your desktop theme and it has nothing to do with jupiter.
[10:13] <d1rkp1tt> Hi All, I been using Ubuntu since 8.04, but I am having some fun with 11.04.... Just cant get VNC to work. Have tried the default vino, tightvncserver, x11vnc, vnc4server...  is it just me, or is something wrong here?
[10:13] <d1rkp1tt> Sorry I mean 11.10
[10:13] <An_Ony_Moose> ThinkT510: I just want to put it somewhere for the record in case anyone should need it in the future - preferably in a place that's easy to find, which makes a pastebin suboptimal
[10:14] <compdoc> d1rkp1tt, do you install qemu-kvm? it can conflict
[10:14] <ThinkT510> An_Ony_Moose: put it in a pastebin and make a ubuntu forum post, link to the pastebin from there
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:this morning a big surprise, the square mouse pointer again on cold boot...
[10:15] <An_Ony_Moose> ThinkT510: will do. Thanks
[10:15] <ThinkT510> An_Ony_Moose: no worries :)
[10:15] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what hardware did you say you had again?
[10:15] <wan26> cartsten_db something similar does have a package, sudo apt-get install mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix-gui
[10:16] <d1rkp1tt>  no idea what qemu-kvm is, I dont think so.
[10:16] <wan26> id check the dev website first though
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ati x800 grafix card, now on precise 12.04.1
[10:16] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: is that an old ati or a new ati?
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:an older card yes
[10:18] <d1rkp1tt> I lied I am on 12.04
[10:18] <wan26> i mean carsten_db *
[10:18] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what graphics driver are you using?
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:howto check again
[10:18] <carsten_db> wan26: thanks :-)
[10:18] <hay> hi all... are ubuntu servers down or is it just me? Cannot access www.ubuntu.com and repositories...
[10:18] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: lsmod
[10:19] <ssta> hay: www.ubuntu.com works for me
[10:20] <MaMaD> I would like to start Jupiter in  Max Performance mode but it always start in  Power saving Mode .  Any way to do it?
[10:20] <compdoc> d1rkp1tt, I use mainly vnc4server, but that requires some setup. Theres a script that goes into /etc/init.d/ that I had to create from examples on the web
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169586/
[10:21] <d1rkp1tt> compdoc, vnc4server has been good for me as well, but just gives me grey screen with terminal on 12.04
[10:21] <d1rkp1tt> I am using it on another ubunut system perfectly
[10:21] <d1rkp1tt> Older release
[10:22] <compdoc> d1rkp1tt, sounds like your xstart script needs work - I can show you one. let me pastebin it
[10:22] <d1rkp1tt> Ive tried to comment out different lines
[10:23] <d1rkp1tt> compdoc, Thanks
[10:23] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: your using the open source radeon driver, i'm using the same on on my revo just fine
[10:24] <compdoc> d1rkp1tt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169590/
[10:24] <krababbel> Anyone got an external USB-HDD suddenly disconnecting? http://pastebin.com/MWZRTDkR
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:you want paste of xog.log too?
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> xorg
[10:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: ok
[10:24] <phil> hello ppl... a question: i am running 12.04 for the first time and noticed that the update-manager and the apt-get update show different packages for installing. The apt, actually, shows none while the update manager 38 (and actually quite useful packages from what i can see).. anyone knows why?
[10:25] <Anubis>  can anyone tell me a good free dynamic dns service ?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169593/
[10:25] <generalsnus> Planetary Annihilation(RTS) Game devs adding Linux support.. looks like a nice game  http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts
[10:26] <hoshi411> anyone know of a decent spec tablet that actually has the audio working with ubuntu?
[10:26] <hoshi411> can even run gnome-shell?
[10:26] <compdoc> phil, the update-manager often shows packages even after theyve been installed if I use apt
[10:26] <hoshi411> 8 or so hours battery life
[10:27] <hay> ssts, doesn't work from any of our servers on different ISPs... could be some routing issue in Slovenia.
[10:28] <phil> compdoc: ok.. i can understand that, but even if the laptop was just turned on? I mean, i didnt do an update through apt and then checked the manager... The manager just came up, and then i checked the apt and saw the difference.
[10:29] <compdoc> phil, guess its possible that something else is wrong, but in package-manager, what happens if you click the Check button, to force it to check again?
[10:29] <kunn> hay: same problem in estonia
[10:29] <phil> compdoc: shows the same packages ...
[10:30] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: can't see anything that sticks out there (although i must admit i'm not sure what i'd be looking for)
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:got a bunch of syslog drm radeon lines too, but not sure if its releveant neither
[10:31] <compdoc> phil, and if you type sudo ap-get update, and then sudo apt-get upgrade, it shows different packages? apt often shows dependencies right away. The package-manager doesnt show dependencies until you click install
[10:31] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: lets see
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:ok holdon
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169602/
[10:34] <phil> compdoc: the upgrade shows no package for installation, only a few packages held back, much less of course than what the update manager shows
[10:34] <d1rkp1tt> compdoc, one line fixed it
[10:34] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: looks like the normal loading procedure to me
[10:34] <d1rkp1tt> /usr/bin/gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d &
[10:34] <d1rkp1tt> compdoc, Thanks, that was really bugging me
[10:35] <compdoc> phil, to install the held back packages, I use apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: yeah thought so too, isnt there a place where to check for mouse? (if its a mouse problem)
[10:35] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i honestly can't see how it could be a mouse problem
[10:36] <compdoc> d1rkp1tt, if you search for ubuntu-2d, you can see all the sessions your desktop supports. that lets you try the others in the folder
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: so you think its grafix card/driver related?
[10:36] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: the way your cursor is displayed on the screen is certainly graphics related
[10:36] <user_> Any one knows how to boot to single user mode using w.ubi?
[10:36] <compdoc> d1rkp1tt, but I think ubuntu-2d.session is the best
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: its already corrupted before i login to unity (at login screen)
[10:38] <d1rkp1tt> Thanks
[10:38] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: the login screen requires X and thus graphics to be running
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: what about X restarting would that help?
[10:39] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i have no idea sorry, you did say after a warm restart the problem goes away
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: yes, if i just reboot it vanish lol, cold boot in the morning corrupt mouse again
[10:40] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: that leads me to think it may be related to some sort of buffer or cache being emptied
[10:41] <vividreality> Hello, I am trying to install flash player but it says flash player installer has unmet dependencies, that' s all. What does this mean?
[10:41] <szal> define 'it'
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: theres one bug like this, and the guy thinks its bios setting of video ram memory, but i got this issue on an older laptop without bios settings too
[10:41] <gry> szal++
[10:41] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: but at this point i'm guessing and wouldn't know how to troubleshoot further
[10:42] <evvsko> what
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: well tnx for your time anyway mate
[10:42] <vividreality> I get an error in Ubuntu software center, szal.
[10:42] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: that sounds plausable, the bios setting about video ram
[10:43] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: maybe the ram isn't cleared on shutdown so when you next cold boot you get that curruption
[10:43] <evvsko> me too
[10:43] <phaidros> using network manager with vpn, it automagically uses dnsmasq on localhost for the remote (vpn) dns server. works for e.g. firefox, but not in the terminal. any hints what the reason might be?
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: how would one clear ram before shutdown?
[10:44] <szal> vividreality: try from the commandline for a change -> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer <- (if that is the correct pkg name; if not, please substitute accordingly)
[10:45] <szal> vividreality: and precede that with a 'sudo apt-get update', just in case
[10:45] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what sort of bios settings do you have relating to your graphics card?
[10:46] <hay> which server should be used for sources.list in case even our Slovenian mirror (sl.archive.ubuntu.com) isn't accessible? It is also strange to me that this hostname resolves to some UK IP address... is this intended?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i got same mouse problem on a laptop without bios settings for video ram, just boot options..so i doubt really its a bios setting
[10:46] <gordonjcp> hay: just because it's geographically closer, doesn't mean it's a better choice
[10:46] <szal> hay: try one in the geographical vicinity (e.g. at.archive.ubuntu.com)
[10:46] <error4o4> Changing Date on my Ubuntu 10.4 server... Date automatically reverts back to current after 30seconds.  Any idea which servise does that?
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:agp or pci, video ram choise: 32.64.128 etc
[10:47] <hay> I see, thx
[10:47] <szal> error4o4: how are you changing the date?
[10:47] <drag0nius> anyone using shellinabox?
[10:47] <szal> !anyone | drag0nius
[10:48] <error4o4> szal: date +%Y%m%d -s "20121201"
[10:48] <vividreality> szal, the terminal says it depends on libnspr4-0d but it' s not going to install
[10:48] <Neo17> this channel is huggggeee
[10:48] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: does the other laptop have the same graphics card?
[10:48] <drag0nius> well i cant run shellinabox on https
[10:48] <drag0nius> getting ssl_error_rx_record_too_long
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i also read a guy thats adds a mouse fix line to xorg conf, but here i cant find any xorg conf file
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: also an ati card on laptop, not the same version
[10:49] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: there isn't a xorg.conf file by default
[10:49] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what line did he add?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: lemme check that
[10:49] <szal> error4o4: any reason to do so?
[10:49] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what card does the other one have?
[10:50] <fellipe> hi, what's the apt command to forget a package wich is pending to be reinstalled?
[10:50] <valdur55> Hello. I can't open ww.ubuntu.com site. It keeps loading
[10:50] <error4o4> szal: any other suggestio,  I am testing some software in development and need to set a date in future
[10:50] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: when was the last time you checked for bios updates for both machines?
[10:50] <szal> error4o4: sounds to me like an ntp client resetting the time
[10:50] <error4o4> szal: yea might be, researchingnow
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:desktop ati x800, laptop some old ati mobile, both older systems, no bios upgrade ever lol
[10:51] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i'd definitely check for bios upgrades
[10:51] <railsraider> i am trying to setup monit to start a service if it's not running what condition should i use?
[10:52] <railsraider> never mind
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: Option "SWCursor" "on"
[10:53] <phaidros> how do I determine which dns server is used in a terminal/console?
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/corrupt-mouse-cursor-fglr-monitor--ftopict473348.html
[10:53] <phaidros> (/etc/resolv.conf shows localhost, on localhost ist dnsmasq run by network manager)
[10:55] <error4o4> szal: any idea which process might be syncing the date and time: http://pastebin.com/Twmf8eBw
[10:55] <no_gravity> Good Morning from Hamburg! Sometimes when I want to reboot (by running reboot as root) the system just hangs forever. Probably because some sshfs mount that is confused. How do I rebbot anyway?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: so if precise has no xorg.conf by default, how can one see settings somewhere?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> no_gravity: any errors on F1 after reboot?
[10:56] <chroot> hi, guys, why how to install kvm in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:57] <no_gravity> lotuspsychje: what do you mean with "erros on f1"?
[10:57] <chroot> i used it sometime ago, but in 12.04, it says the kvm module or kvm package is not installed, the vm will perform pooly
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> no_gravity: after reboot or shutdown, there's an ubuntu loading screen, if pressing F1 you see txt info on the shutdown..maybe thats revealing something?
[10:58] <compdoc> chroot:  sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager
[10:58] <compdoc> if you like  virt-manager
[10:59] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you could try this to generate a xorg.conf file which we can edit: sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[10:59] <chroot> yeah, it have done that
[10:59] <evvsko> quit
[10:59] <chroot> but i got some warnings when creat vm use virt-manager
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: sudo: aticonfig: command not found
[11:00] <compdoc> phaidros, /etc/resolv.conf isnt a file anymore, its a link, but if you: cat /etc/resolv.conf   it should have your dns servers listed
[11:00] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: ah well that answers that, it must be part of the fglrx driver
[11:01] <compdoc> chroot, what warnings?
[11:01] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: give me a few mins
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok tnx mate
[11:02] <chroot> from virt-manager
[11:03] <compdoc> that tells me a lot
[11:03] <chroot> it says: Warning: kvm is not available, this may mean the kvm package not installed or kvm kernel modules is not loaded
[11:04] <phaidros> compdoc: resolv.conf show 127.0.0.1, fine. locally dnsmasq listens and has via network-manager the local nameserver plus the vpn nameserver configured. the strange (read: wrong!) phenomenon is, that e.g. firefox is able to solve a local domain for the vpn, shell (terminal) isn't!
[11:04] <phaidros> compdoc: so I am looking for the difference in name resolution in terminal vs. e.g. firefox
[11:05] <phaidros> compdoc: in my reality, bash *should* use /etc/resolv.conf. but somehow doesnt
[11:06] <phaidros> but I am not sure of it. because dig @localhost domain.local yields nothing. tho, firefox can access http://domain.local (cache freshly emptied)
[11:06] <compdoc> the /etc/resolv.conf should have your dns server listed. at least mine does. and no loopback at all
[11:07] <phaidros> compdoc: nope. network-manager uses dnsmasq for vpn nameservers, at least here ..
[11:08] <phaidros> compdoc: as I read this is standard behaviour since 12.04
[11:08] <ssta> compdoc: /etc/hosts will be checked first usually
[11:08] <phaidros> ssta: what does that cahnge?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: this guys has same kinda corrupted lines
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543352
[11:09] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: copy and paste this into a new xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169634/
[11:09] <phaidros> ok, what is the general difference between e.g. firefox and bash in a terminal in name resolution?
[11:10] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: then copy the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/
[11:10] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: then restart
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok lemme try
[11:11] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: actually, come to think of it you'd better power off and then cold boot
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:ok
[11:12] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: if this doesn't work you can delete the xorg.conf file and restart
[11:12] <Briareos1> anyone know how to load an Alternate ISO in GRUB2? the settings for Desktop variant fail if used for the Alternate one
[11:12] <geirha> phaidros: What's the command that fails?
[11:12] <xorox90> does any one know what partition(like.. /dev/sda1 sdb)  should I install grub2 on gpt disk in ubuntu installing process?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> xorox90: depends on your setup.  single disk, single OS??
[11:13] <geirha> phaidros: If you mean the dig-command, that has nothing to do with bash
[11:13] <xorox90> cfhowlett> i want to multi boot with win 7
[11:13] <cfhowlett> xorox90: wait on GPT disk?  Hackintosh or something like that?
[11:13] <xorox90> cfhowlett> and I have a one physical disk
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok cross your fingaz :p
[11:14] <cfhowlett> xorox90: normally, win7 single os disks are mbr not gpt.  does ubuntu SEE the windows partitions?
[11:14] <phaidros> geirha: there is a host in the vpn network, there is a dns server for that internal hosts, that dns server is set in dnsmasq when connecting via network-manager to the vpn. firefox can access host.vpn. shell can't. (e.g. dig host.vpn yields nothing, dig @vpnnameserverIP host.vpn works. tho firefox does seem to resolve correctly)
[11:14] <xorox90> cfhowlett> yes, in ubuntu installing process , it can see windows partiton and efi partition...
[11:15] <cfhowlett> xorox90: normally, install grub to /dev/sda
[11:15] <xorox90> cfhowlett> thx!
[11:15] <phaidros> geirha: so, my question is, why does that dnsmasq setup (meanwhile default) work for firefox and *not* for bash (ping, dig, ssh)
[11:15] <cfhowlett> xorox90: be safe, have fun
[11:15] <evvsko> networking restart
[11:16] <phaidros> geirha: obvious workaround is to put that vpn nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf, *but* that file is generated, which doesnt make that workaround a solution.
[11:16] <phaidros> geirha: any ideas?
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:seems like it booted normally without mouse corrupted, but ill be sure tomorrow morning
[11:17] <aLeSD__> I have a : AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series but I see that Xorg load i915 module
[11:17] <aLeSD__> so I am using Unity 2d
[11:17] <aLeSD__> why ?
[11:17] <aLeSD__> I installed the propetary drivers to
[11:17] <geirha> phaidros: ping, dig, and ssh all do their own name resolution, bash is not involved other than execing them
[11:18] <aLeSD__> ops
[11:18] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: did you cold boot? or warm restart?
[11:18] <aLeSD__> I was wrong : fglrx driver is loaded : but I am running on unity 2d ... why ?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: cold boot yes
[11:19] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: sweet
[11:19] <kandinski> can you have a defaultdict with a factory function that's aware of thekey you were trying to access?
[11:19] <ThinkT510> !yay | lotus
[11:19] <phaidros> geirha: ok. what could be a useful explanation for firefox being able to resolve via dnsmasq, shell tools cant?
[11:19] <ThinkT510> !yay | lotuspsychje
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i hope it stays like this tomorrow
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: lol tnx anyway for support
[11:20] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: if it does indeed work in the morning too then make sure you keep a copy of the xorg.conf
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i will, also for other systems i put ubuntu with same issue
[11:21] <geirha> phaidros: That I do not know. Firefox appears to be the odd one out, doing some additional magic. ##networking might have some ideas.
[11:21] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i'm not sure if the pcibus might need changing on other systems though
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok, so if xorg.conf isnt default on precise, where could one check sort a like settings?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: what replaces xorg.conf?
[11:23] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i don't know, ive never needed to, its all done dynamically
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> !xorgconf > lotuspsychje
[11:23] <phaidros> geirha: thx
[11:23] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: could you paste your lspci please, i'd like to check something
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169647/
[11:25] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: ahh, thanks, see the numbers before the vga there, that tells you what the pcibus should be in xorg.conf
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok tnx
[11:27] <jgcampbell300> i need a sub network for an experament ... can i use 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1 on the same network to seperate some computers ?
[11:27] <phaidros> geirha: btw, chromium works as well. strnage foobar :/
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:lemme try another cold boot
[11:27] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: no worries, i learned while helping too, so thanks to you too
[11:27] <jgcampbell300> or do i need to change the subnet on both sides
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: same spirit here mate
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> brb
[11:28] <surt> Hi I've overclocked my system to 4.0ghz but linux is showing 2.67 max. This is wrong, how do I fix it please?
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: second cold boot also without problems
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ill let you know for sure tomorrow
[11:31] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: is that after switching off from the socket too?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: what do you mean?
[11:32] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: the switch plugged into the wall
[11:33] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: also, you got a pretty good boot time
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i sudo halt, then pressed the button to cold boot, if thats what you mean
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ssd inside on precise 64bit :p
[11:33] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: when you go to bed do you switch the computer off at the plug?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: no never
[11:35] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: sounds like a problem solved then
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: always software halt, and button boot
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i really hope so :p
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: got that issue for long time now, even on other versions
[11:35] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: all ati?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: yes
[11:36] <szal> jgcampbell300: what exactly are you up to?
[11:37] <drag0nius> anyone successfully run shellinabox on 12.04?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: if it solved by the morning ill report a bug and solve with your solution if thats ok for you
[11:37] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i only recently bought a revo with ati graphics in it, no problems yet, i was rather surprised that the open source drivers supported compiz too
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> find shellinabox
[11:37] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: sure
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> !find shellinabox
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i got compiz running flawless here, wobbly windows and stuf :p
[11:38] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: oh, i'm practically stock unity here
[11:38] <guntars> disconect
[11:38] <drag0nius> http://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/ this
[11:39] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: messing with ccsm can easily break unity
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: got no issues here with unity and ccsm, just a reboot needed sometimes after enabling cubes or some
[11:39] <Sidewinder1> guntars, try /part
[11:40] <Sidewinder1> oops, he/she got it,. :(
[11:40] <Slart> hello, is anyone else having problems accessing ubuntu.com at the moment? It just times out for me
[11:41] <iceroot> Slart: ŵorking fine here
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: that old ati card cost me like 500$ back in the days, so wobbly windows isnt too much luxury lol
[11:42] <Slart> iceroot: hmm.. odd.. the rest of the internet seems to be working.. just ubuntu.com.. well well. Thanks.
[11:42] <darkapex> Slart: Fine Here too!
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ill let you know if its fixxed for good tomorrow, tnx again for your great support!
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> out for now
[11:44] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: ok, have fun
[11:45] <franco56> ciao
[11:46] <franco56> !list
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:50] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj: greetings
[11:52] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[11:52] <kandinski> so, __missing__ in defaultdicts is readonly... how can I make a defaultdict whose factory function is aware of the key that was passed on to __getitem__?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj: what's the happening, blueskaj??
[11:53] <geirha> kandinski: Probably better to ask that in #python ...?
[11:55] <Dragonfly> Hi there guys, can anybody help me with this: I have a broadcom wireless card but ubuntu treats it as an ethernet card, I cant see any wireless network here.
[11:55] <blackshirt> hello
[11:55] <blackshirt> can someone help me
[11:55] <wica> hoi
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !ask|blackshirt: greetings
[11:56] <cfhowlett> wica: greetings
[11:56] <kandinski> geirha: thanks :>
[11:56] <Wizard> Hi wica.
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: that is the weirdest thing I've heard of on ubuntu networking...
[11:56] <wica> cfhowlett: :)
[11:56] <cfhowlett> wica: state your issue
[11:56] <wica> :)
[11:56] <wica> cfhowlett: No issue.
[11:57] <wica> Justing hanging out
[11:57] <wica> and maybe help somebody
[11:57] <wica> s/Justing/Just/
[11:57] <cfhowlett> wica: understood.  welcome.
[11:57] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett, yes this is weird. I think that might be a problem with drivers or something but I am not sure about it.
[11:58] <wica> Dragonfly: It is a PCI device?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: wish I could help.  sorry, but my broadcom experience is limited to getting wifi up and running.
[11:59] <wica> Dragonfly: which type is the nic?
[12:00] <laurent_> pingoin
[12:02] <Dragonfly> wica, here is lspci for network cards: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[12:02] <|Frederik> Is there some change in 12.10 kernel packages which prevent them from running correctly on 12.0.4? When I boot them, network does not come up and usb keyboard does not work.
[12:02] <Dragonfly> but ifconfig shows that it is an ethernet card eth1
[12:02] <Dragonfly> wica, but ifconfig shows that it is an ethernet card eth1
[12:02] <fidel> !ubuntu+1 > |Frederik
[12:03] <wica> Dragonfly: Can you do "rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and then reboot the computer?
[12:04] <wica> That file wil be recreated on boot time
[12:04] <Dragonfly> wica, Its the same computer I am currently working on. I'll just give it a try and let you know after rebooting.
[12:04] <wica> Dragonfly: Thnx
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: love to know if this works...
[12:05] <wica> me 2, but seen strange things with udev
[12:10] <pale3> "/set awl_separator \ "
[12:11] <wica> Dragonfly has a slow computer?
[12:11] <Aleksander> Hello - how can I change my GRUB2 configuration partition? I have two systems installed with GRUB2 config files, and I'd like to use Arch, not Ubuntu one, but have no idea how to change that in options
[12:16] <Dragonfly> wica: I tried removing the rules file and reboot but the problem is still there
[12:16] <TONI_LP> hola??
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !es|TONI_LP:
[12:16] <TONI_LP> ok
[12:17] <Dragonfly> wica : I tried patching the negative zero channel problem on aircrack suit a couple days ago, can it be a problem by any chance ?
[12:17] <tdn> Suddenly, the sound stopped working in XBMC. I use 2:11.0~git20120423 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  Sound has been working just fine for months. I have tested that the sound DOES work on this machine by quitting xbmc and playing something with vlc instead. I have pastebin the debug log on http://p.adora.dk/P2499.html
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: um, yeah, quite possibly related...
[12:18] <george> question: does the regular ubuntu package allow you to not install Unity during the installation or should I go with the minimal CD?
[12:19] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Should I just remove the wireless kernel ? is there a particular rollback method for it ? I think that has messed with a lot of modules on my system so I am a little concerned about it
[12:19] <george> anyone?
[12:19] <coellobranco> saludos
[12:19] <fidel> george: afaik the regular cd just installs unity - so consider using the minimal one
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !it|coellobranco:
[12:19] <fidel> or just clean up afterwards
[12:20] <george> fidel: alright that's what I'll do, do I lose out on anything else by using the minimal vs. the regular image?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: sorry, man, mixing aircrack into the mix is way over my paygrade.  Were it me, I'd clean install and start over, but then I don't have your skill set.  Ask in the channel for advice from someone with more experience
[12:21] <george> like will there be less packages other than the desktop not installed?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !es|coellobranco:
[12:21] <coellobranco> sorry
[12:22] <cfhowlett> coellobranco: no harm no foul
[12:22] <fidel> george: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/ describes the basics about the minimal cd
[12:22] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : No problem buddy I am removing the compat wireless kernel now. lets see if that help.
[12:22] <fidel> minimal cds main target in my eyes is offering a small install image
[12:22] <fidel> while alternate-iso's main focus is offering a small core-install
[12:23] <Pici> fidel: the alternate CD installs the same software as the desktop cd.
[12:23] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : I have one more problem here, all of a sudden the fan of my laptop has stopped working. Its been a couple days now I am looking for a solution. Do you have any idea ?
[12:23] <Kotak> Replace the fan?
[12:23] <fidel> Pici: yes - but you have to select packages as far as i know
[12:24] <Dragonfly> kotak : Did you respond to me ?
[12:24] <Kotak> yeah :)
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: cleaning out of the vents usually works magic.  also, opening up the casing and dropping a few drops of lube on the main screw is similarly magical
[12:24] <fidel> Pici: which means: you end up with a setup without desktop if you dont select thi corresponding category while install or install it manually
[12:25] <Pici> fidel: I haven't done an alternate install in a while, but last time I did, it didn't prompt me for package selection.
[12:25] <Dragonfly> kotak : Thank for the suggestion but I really dont want to change it or I'd have done it.
[12:25] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Ok thanks, I'll try that too.
[12:25] <fidel> Pici: same here - havent used it for the last 2 years myself ;)
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: good luck.
[12:25] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Thanks :)
[12:25] <fidel> thats why i pointed him to the official ubuntu docs regarding the minimal cd aswell
[12:28] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Hey that did the trick :) I removed the wireless kernel and my card is again a wireless card now :)
[12:29] <jgcampbell300> need a bit of assistance ... Failed to bring up eth0. its on ubuntu server eht0 i am trying to run maas-dhcp ... i changed the /etc/network/interfaces to static ... any suggestinos
[12:29] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Now the fan issue. here is something BTW. Do you think messing with Apparmor can cause that Fan failure ?
[12:30] <bidadieu> hi,everyone, i have a question ,can you help me ?
[12:31] <bidadieu> please .
[12:31] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Can I just rename the network interface ? I mean my wireless card name is eth1 in ifconfig, I want it to be wlan0 ? any tip ?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: congrats on solving it.  regarding the fan: that's hardware.  Seriously can't see how app armor in any configuration could effect fan settings.  But I'd bet $ you, like most of us, have NEVER cleaned out the vents or lubed the fan.  So...
[12:31] <wica> Dragonfly: did it help?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !ask|bidadieu:
[12:31] <Dragonfly> wica : I removed the wireless kernel and it worked out fine :)
[12:31] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: don't know if I'd do that.  The default id's usually work best...
[12:31] <wica> Dragonfly: ok
[12:32] <bidadieu> i came across a word :"forever i'll bid adieu",can you tell me what does it mean?
[12:32] <wica> strange
[12:32] <cfhowlett> bidadieu: you're asking in the wrong channel.  See if there's a #poetry out there.  this is #ubuntu support.
[12:33] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Default was wlan0 before I installed the wireless kernel, after installation it just got vanished and renamed to eth1. Now I want it back to wlan0.
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> bidadieu, adieu is similiar to good bye.
[12:34] <Dragonfly> wica : do you have any idea about renaming the network interface ?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: not something I can add any meaningful advice to.  Sorry.
[12:34] <Dragonfly> I want to rename eth1 back to wlan0 ?
[12:34] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : No problem, I'll try to find another way
[12:35] <Dragonfly> cfhowlett : Thank you for the help :)
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Drag0nir: best of luck.
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Dragonfly: best of luck
[12:39] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[12:39] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i connect to a remote ftp address and navigate around and crete files and such?
[12:41] <Dragonfly> Wiz_KeeD : you can give Filezilla a try\
[12:41] <Wiz_KeeD> i was thinkking maybe using a terminal or such but
[12:41] <Dragonfly> hit ftp <ip-address> in terminal and away you go :)
[12:41] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried it didn't work :))
[12:42] <Dragonfly> do you have the FTP package installed ?
[12:42] <Dragonfly> Wiz_KeeD : install it by sudo apt-get install ftp
[12:42] <py_can> I'm missing 3gb RAM out of 6gb in total! Halp!
[12:43] <py_can> where did it go to?
[12:43] <Dragonfly> py_can : are you running a 32 bit or 64 bit distro ?
[12:43] <py_can> Dragonfly: 64
[12:44] <py_can> Dragonfly: windows detects 6gb. Ubuntu 3.2
[12:44] <Wiz_KeeD> why's that py_can ?
[12:45] <Dragonfly> py_can : 64 bit should correctly detect the RAM
[12:45] <py_can> Wiz_KeeD, The mozilla monster ate my ram ? i dont know?
[12:45] <py_can> Dragonfly: yes, yet its not ;(
[12:45] <Wiz_KeeD> i mean why it detects only 3.2
[12:45] <py_can> i dont know, thats why i came here
[12:46] <Dragonfly> py_can : can you paste the output of 'uname -r' ?
[12:46] <py_can> Dragonfly: 3.2.0-23-generic
[12:47] <Dragonfly> ok, hit 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae'
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD> what does that do? :D
[12:48] <py_can> ok Dragonfly
[12:48] <Dragonfly> I have generic-pie and it detect all of the 6 GB RAM on my 32 BIT machine
[12:49] <krababbel> What is a quick way to compare two directory trees if the files have the same size and name?
[12:49] <krababbel> diff seems very slow
[12:50] <py_can> Dragonfly: http://pastebin.com/9Z2LRVif
[12:50] <Slart> krababbel: diff on the outout of ls?
[12:50] <krababbel> Slart: thanks, will try that
[12:51] <Slart> krababbel: you might have to add some switches to ls to just get the names and sizes.. creation dates and such might not be interesting
[12:51] <Slart> krababbel: http://superuser.com/questions/228763/how-to-diff-file-names-in-two-directories-without-writing-to-intermediate-files
[12:51] <Dragonfly> py_can can you try "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[12:52] <py_can> Dragonfly: looks like i got 300 updates pending, ill install them first
[12:52] <Dragonfly> py_can : after that upgrade the kernel and let us know if it detects the RAM fine. PAE should work out for upto 64GB ram
[12:53] <LostMonk> is there a way to use a verbose startup rather than the graphic?
[12:53] <py_can> Dragonfly: allright
[12:54] <Dragonfly> LostMonk : You can press up or down arrow key on boot when it shows the boot screen
[12:54] <LostMonk> no way to do it automatically?
[12:54] <Dragonfly> LostMonk : that will switch between verbose and graphical mode
[12:54] <LostMonk> ah ok
[12:54] <LostMonk> thanks
[12:56] <vividreality> I am looking for an alternative to Notepad++, is gedit nice?
[12:57] <kevin_> vividreality: i use gedit. works alright
[12:57] <vividreality> Thanks.
[12:57] <Slart> vividreality: I don't really think there is anything comparable to notepad++... there is the gnome version of vim if you are willing to take the time to learn it
[12:57] <krababbel> Slart: thanks again
[12:57] <Slart> krababbel: you're welcome
[12:58] <steven_> hello
[12:58] <vividreality> Slart, what is there to learn? I just want syntax highlighting, that' s all
[12:58] <gordonjcp> vividreality: gedit will do syntax highlighting
[12:58] <gordonjcp> vividreality: geany does, too
[12:58] <vividreality> Great.
[12:58] <Slart> vividreality: if it's just syntax highlighting then gedit will do fine
[12:58] <steven_> vim id good
[12:58] <gordonjcp> the actual component that does all the clever stuff is gtksourceview so if you look at that you can see what languages are supported
[12:59] <vividreality> Okay thanks you guys.
[12:59] <steven_> is there has good game in ubuntu?
[12:59] <Wizard> Lots.
[12:59] <gordonjcp> vividreality: just as a matter of interest, which languages are you looking for highlighting for?
[13:00] <Wizard> !best
[13:00] <Dragonfly> steven_ : Dont know about good games but playOnLinux is there for you :)
[13:00] <IBM1424> #ubuntu-hams
[13:00] <steven_> yep
[13:00] <Slart> steven_: http://www.happypenguin.org/ is a good site for gaming on linux
[13:01] <vividreality> gordonjcp, any C language, Lua is very important to me, and things like xml, yaml, etc.
[13:01] <steven_> thank you
[13:01] <vividreality> Oh and check out Desura, steven.
[13:02] <Dragonfly> steven_ That looks grean, will definitely check it out later.
[13:02] <CaptObvious> I'm having an issue with start-stop-daemon.  I'm wanting to launch a command with commandline options, but start-stop-daemon is interpreting the options as options for itself rather than the program I'm trying to launch with it.  how do I fix this?
[13:03] <caB00T> Hello, I can't open insight, says it's not found, I get an error when I try to apt-get it, and I don't find it at all on Ubuntu Software Center... :\
[13:04] <steven_> aha ,desura is good
[13:04] <michaelxq> where can i ask for Androit Ubuntu?
[13:04] <steven_>  i like
[13:05] <Wizard> KotBehemot: :/
[13:05] <Wizard> KotBehemot: ping
[13:05] <caB00T> Hey guys, I can't seem to open Insight, a debugger that's suppose to be preintalled... Everywhere? Anyway, says it's not found when opened from terminal, does not want to install via apt-get and can't find it at all on Ub Software Center?
[13:06] <HAMKoot> michaelxq, ubuntu on android isn't ready yet >> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[13:06] <fidel> !info insight
[13:06] <fidel> caB00T: what package in particular are you talking about?
[13:06] <caB00T> Oh crap...
[13:06] <michaelxq> HAMKoot: do we know when is going to be ready?
[13:06] <caB00T> Insight, the debugger.
[13:07] <HAMKoot> mich-ds2_, dunno, how about filling in your email on that page ?
[13:07] <fidel> caB00T: well then there is no package with that name in 12.04
[13:07] <HAMKoot> sorry, mich-ds2_ >> michaelxq
[13:07] <caB00T> :\ Learning assembly is fun... More time wasted on this kind of crap then on anything else... :\
[13:08] <caB00T> Thank you for feedback anyway, found some reading online ab it.
[13:09] <lienucksfails2> my browsing is extremely slow in ubuntu and ubuntu based distros but downloads are fast i have tried changing dns still same problem
[13:09] <fidel> lienucksfails2: are you refering to general browsing or flash/similar content?
[13:09] <Pici> caB00T: It looks like it was removed from Debian (and then Ubuntu) in 2010, details here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566579
[13:09] <lienucksfails2> general browsing website does not load
[13:10] <fidel> lienucksfails2: slow or not loading?
[13:10] <lienucksfails2> not loading slow
[13:10] <lienucksfails2> depends on website
[13:10] <fidel> lienucksfails2: not loading != slow
[13:10] <lienucksfails2> google is loading
[13:10] <lienucksfails2> www.goal.com/en not loading
[13:10] <caB00T> Yes, thank you Pici, I am reading that article.
[13:10] <caB00T> A bummer...
[13:10] <HAMKoot> lienucksfails2, i had that problem too, i disabled IPv6 and that speeds up
[13:10] <HAMKoot> !ipv6
[13:11] <lienucksfails2> yaa i have ipv8 disabled too in firefox
[13:11] <michaelxq> HAMKoot: thank you very much for your help
[13:11] <lienucksfails2> ipv6
[13:11] <rgms> Is there something wrong with ubuntu.com? Can't seem to access it, but http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ tells me it's up
[13:11] <lienucksfails2> nothing wrong with ubuntu.com its loaduing fine
[13:12] <michaelxq> rgms: same here
[13:12] <lienucksfails2> www.piratebay.se is is alson ot loading for me
[13:12] <IBM1424> rgms: it is working for me
[13:12] <HAMKoot> lienucksfails2, piratebay is offtopic, you know why.
[13:13] <lienucksfails2> www.distrowatch.com not loading
[13:13] <rgms> so it's a load balancer issue or something?
[13:13] <lienucksfails2> bleacherreport
[13:13] <vinod_> Yo
[13:13] <lienucksfails2> am having this problem in 12.03.1 also
[13:13] <rgms> michaelxq, where are you from?
[13:14] <rgms> I'm from Finland
[13:14] <lienucksfails2> 12.04.1
[13:14] <michaelxq> rgms: cyprus
[13:14] <vinod_> can any1 temme what can be used as pagemaker in ubuntu
[13:14] <rgms> lienucksfails2, where are you from? If I may ask.
[13:14] <lienucksfails2> am from india
[13:14] <rgms> hmm..
[13:14] <vicky> is there any app to lock folders?
[13:15] <IBM1424> vicky: good question
[13:15] <IBM1424> ?
[13:15] <lienucksfails2> i tried xubuntu 12.04 lubuntu 12.04 same problem in all just cannot browse man
[13:15] <smya> Hello. I formated my system and installed 12.04. Now am unable to download or install anything from net. I am getting the following error.
[13:15] <Slart> rgms: sweden here, ubuntu.com not working for me.. actually none of the *.ubuntu.com servers are working here
[13:15] <smya> make[2]: *** [/usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial/below2.6.27/usb-serial.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial/below2.6.27] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae' make: *** [modules] Error 2 dpkg: error processing crossplatformui (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing:  
[13:15] <k1l> lienucksfails2: maybe just a routing problem from you ISP
[13:15] <skpl^> lienucksfails2: try killing yourself.
[13:15] <lienucksfails2> i thought google dns would solve the problem but err fail
[13:16] <smya> Can you pls help me
[13:16] <lienucksfails2> i have tried debian based distro like siduction and aptosid it is working fine windows also no problem so i cannot blame my isp
[13:16] <vicky> can u please tell the app name to lock folder?
[13:17] <geirha> vicky: lock folder? for what purpose?
[13:17] <krababbel> Hi, I accidentally formatted an ext4 partition to ntfs. Can I recover the files?
[13:17] <vinod_> can any1 temme what can be used as pagemaker in ubuntu
[13:17] <k1l> vicky: you mean encryption?
[13:17] <lienucksfails2> i called my isp they say to get help from ubuntu my line is fine
[13:17] <vicky> to avoid others to view / access that folder
[13:18] <k1l> vicky: then just set the rights to only your account
[13:18] <phil> vicky: you mean remotely, when someone accesses your machine?
[13:18] <lienucksfails2> could this be a kernel issue
[13:18] <smya> Just to make it clear, I have pasted the error here. http://pastebin.com/z56S4eUq  pls help me.
[13:19] <phil> vicky: this is just standard folder permission set up .... sudo chown <numbers> <folder_name>
[13:19] <vicky> no my account can be used by many others
[13:19] <phil> vicky: aaah, and creating accounts for others is not possible?
[13:20] <vicky> no..
[13:20] <k1l> vicky: then try encryption
[13:20] <phil> vicky: or you can create one account for all the others ...
[13:20] <rgms> Slart, *.ubuntu.com not working for me either, also launchpad.net
[13:20] <lienucksfails2> fucking noob community RIP
[13:20] <phil> vicky: sorry, maybe silly but we are trying the easiest possible solution first
[13:21] <jgcampbell300> i need some help ... i installed maas-dhcp and it changed my dns up on the server i cant apt-get update now ... i can ping ip addresses on the net but cant ping www.whatever.com ... any ideas
[13:21] <vicky> @ phil. ok
[13:21] <lousygarua> In gnome3 when you click the meta key and type a few letters, e.g. 'fir' for 'firefox', and then hit return - it will switch to the existing firefox window instead of opening a new one. Is it possible to do so on unity as well? 12.04
[13:22] <kevin_> jgcampbell300: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[13:23] <BalthaTczar> could someone explain me, i've installed MAME and am trying to copy roms to usr/local/share/games/mame/roms
[13:23] <BalthaTczar> but permission is denied
[13:23] <intent> does anybody use shazam?
[13:24] <BalthaTczar> how can i change this and have permission to copy ?
[13:24] <trapni> hey, I just did `apt-get source openssh-server` to get the sources of it, patched it with the LDAP-ssh-publickey patch, and now would like to rebuild it as a .deb file, but can't find a way to do so? any ideas?
[13:24] <kevin_> BalthaTczar: look at the permissions necessary to put files in that directory. you might need to be in a 'games' group or such.
[13:25] <root> alex50
[13:25] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | trapni "cheap" option
[13:25] <BalthaTczar> kevin_, it says root is the owner and i am not owner so i cannot change permissions
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: didnt work mate :p, time waiting cold boot and square mouse is back
[13:26] <kevin_> BalthaTczar: what about the group?
[13:26] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: oh
[13:26] <BalthaTczar> kevin_, group is staff
[13:26] <kevin_> BalthaTczar: that's a weird group. well you can use 'sudo' to perform commands as root.
[13:28] <BalthaTczar> kevin_, ah right you also know how i can terminate an application ?
[13:29] <BalthaTczar> you know by terminating the process
[13:29] <kevin_> BalthaTczar: check out kill, pkill, or xkill
[13:29] <kevin_> BalthaTczar: kill is for a process id, pkill is for a process name, and xkill is for a process which has a window open in x
[13:30] <shock-phone> Hello
[13:31] <jgcampbell300> i need some help ... i installed maas-dhcp and it changed my dns up on the server i cant apt-get update now ... i can ping ip addresses on the net but cant ping www.whatever.com ... any ideas
[13:32] <kevin_> jgcampbell300: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[13:32] <jgcampbell300> kevin: thanks man
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise on ati card?
[13:34] <kevin_> going to work. bye.
[13:35] <BalthaTczar> is there also a way to keep track of progress when copying a bunch of files ?
[13:35] <BalthaTczar> in the terminal i mean
[13:35] <Owner> track progress?
[13:35] <BalthaTczar> yeah how many files are copied
[13:36] <Owner> -v
[13:36] <k1l> BalthaTczar: cp -v
[13:36] <BalthaTczar> thanks
[13:36] <BalthaTczar> too late now though
[13:36] <IBM1234> is there any that is good at reading scripts?
[13:36] <IBM1234> is there any person that is good at reading scripts?
[13:36] <Owner> IBM1234~# i did shakespear in highschool
[13:37] <IBM1234> ll!
[13:37]  * Owner bows
[13:37] <IBM1234> funny but not light that
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Excuse me all: Is there anyway to install unity in Xubuntu?
[13:37] <kubanc> is there any similar like filezilla server for Ubuntu?
[13:37] <Owner> what script
[13:37] <IBM1234> I have a firewall script someone wrote for me but I want to get it a second look
[13:38] <fidel> smartboyhw: why shouldnt it? its a package
[13:38] <Owner> kubanc~# with a gui?  not sure
[13:38] <k1l> smartboyhw: insatll "ubuntu-desktop"
[13:38] <kubanc> Owner, is there anything that i can configure fast?
[13:38] <smartboyhw> OK
[13:39] <Owner> kubanc~# there is vsftpd and proftpd for example...you dont really need a gui, but im sure there are some out there for those daemons
[13:39] <Pici> !ftpd | kubanc
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise on ati card?
[13:42] <danymariusica> hy girls
[13:42] <danymariusica> :X
[13:45] <IBM1234> Owner: Thank you for reading the script
[13:45] <Alpha-Omega> whats the difference between kubuntu desktop and kubuntu full on the minimal cd?
[13:47] <Alpha-Omega> anyone?
[13:47] <bobweaver> Alpha-Omega,  you mean kubuntu-desktop and kde-workspace ?
[13:47] <Alpha-Omega> bobweaver it only shows kubuntu desktop and kubuntu full on minimal cd
[13:47] <IBM1234> How can I get a script file to run automatically everytime I turn on my computer?
[13:48] <IBM1234> Anyone?
[13:48] <bobweaver> Alpha-Omega,  not sure
[13:48] <Alpha-Omega> Ibm1234 put it in your .bash
[13:48] <Alpha-Omega> or .bashrc
[13:48] <bobweaver> IBM1234,  put it in rc
[13:48] <deadmund> IBM1234: use update-rc
[13:48] <fidel> IBM1234: is cron @reboot an option?
[13:49] <deadmund> IBM1234: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d
[13:49] <IBM1234> sorry Iam very Elementary to this... what do you mena by put in you .bash?
[13:49] <Alpha-Omega> ibm1234 in ur home directory there is a .bash or .bashrc file
[13:50] <Alpha-Omega> forgot which it is
[13:50] <Alpha-Omega> just do ls -a ull see it
[13:50] <geirha> Alpha-Omega, IBM1234: That won't run it at boot.
[13:50] <IBM1234> let me check
[13:50] <Alpha-Omega> geirha well itll load when he logs in
[13:51] <Alpha-Omega> i guess ure right
[13:51] <fidel> IBM1234: try to point out if you are really talking about 'on boot' or on 'user-login' or something else ;)
[13:51] <geirha> Alpha-Omega: Only if he logs in at the console or via ssh
[13:51] <bobweaver> IBM1234,  put in RC.whatever  or make into a service (/etc/init.d/)
[13:51] <ubuntu_noob> hello... I'm really kind of new at this... i was wondering if anybody could shed some light for me.  I opened my Disk Usage Analyzer and it says "Total filesystem capacity: 70.3 GB (used 45.2 GB available: 25.1 GB)" But under my folders, my root says the size is only 5 GB.... am I missing something here?
[13:51] <geirha> Alpha-Omega: Plus it will be run every time he opens a terminal
[13:51] <Alpha-Omega> geirha no even if he logs in regularly i thin its .bashrc itll run
[13:51] <Alpha-Omega> yep ure right about that
[13:52] <craigbass1976> is wine still the only way ot run itunes?
[13:52] <IBM1234> I would like on boot if not every time a user logs in... it is for a firewall
[13:52] <Alpha-Omega> im kind of new so u guys help :)
[13:52] <deadmund> craigbass1976: Yes.  Until apple open sources itunes
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu_noob:unfoald + on the folders to see content
[13:53] <deadmund> craigbass1976: or, I supposed, re-writes a linux version!
[13:53] <craigbass1976> deadmund, maybe if we all hold our breath together...
[13:53] <deadmund> craigbass1976: maybe just use a different music player? :P
[13:53] <geirha> craigbass1976. deadmund: Oh, itunes works with wine now?
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu_noob: you can also install ubuntu tweak to clean up your system from unwanted files
[13:53] <deadmund> geirha: I used it once several years ago, it 'worked'
[13:54] <ubuntu_noob> lotuspsychje: / shows 5 gb, the largest subdir is /usr which is 3 gb, next is /var which is 1.1 gb. on a fresh install, even with a heavy theme, it shouldn't be this much should it? and I still dont know why it says I've used 45.2 gb
[13:54] <rigo> hi
[13:54] <ubuntu_noob> do you know the apt for ubuntu tweak?
[13:55] <kubanc> i've installed vsftpd. what's the default username and password to login?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu_noob: you sure you using the full had partitioning? check for sure with gparted
[13:55] <rigo> the remote desktop is still gray with only the big black X cursor.
[13:55] <IBM1234> thank you
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | ubuntu_noob
[13:55] <rigo> i installed X11 xrdp
[13:55] <zlude> Hello! I'm running samba + ldap like a AD but i wanna know how to disable profile saving? someone can help me?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu_noob: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[13:56] <craigbass1976> kubanc, Isn't it regular users?  I haven't done it in a while...
[13:56] <ubuntu_noob> lotuspsychje: thanks, I'll give it a try
[13:56] <rgms> Slart, you woudln't happen to have TeliaSonera as your ISP?
[13:57] <rigo> so the connection is OK. grey pixel background and the X but no x environment no "start menu" nothing.
[13:58] <Slart> rgms: nope, bahnhof
[13:58] <Slart> rgms: but it might be going through some telia lines on the way.. sweden is telia-land after all =)
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> keep ontopic guys
[13:59] <IBM1234> If I Place a script file into ...etc/init.d/        and then do an update will this cause that script to run as a service everytime the computer turns on?
[14:00] <Slart> lotuspsychje: talking to me and rgms? we're trying to figure out why ubuntu.com isn't working for some users
[14:00] <rigo> someone said here that this is b ecause of the corporate network what i use. and because of proxy. but no.
[14:01] <IBM1234> If I Place a script file into ...etc/init.d/        and then do an update will this cause that script to run as a service everytime the computer turns on?
[14:01] <yeats> IBM1234: you might benefit from reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[14:01] <IBM1234> yeats thank you!!!
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> IBM1234, If no one answers here, perhaps in #bash,.?
[14:02] <beluga_> is launchpad.net down? when I try downforeveryoneorjustme.com it says: "It's just you. http://launchpad.net is up." But it's really down for me
[14:02] <zlude> i need help with samba like a PDC. i wanna know how to disable users profile saving in pdc. someone can help me?
[14:02] <IBM1234> thank you sidewinder1. I am new to IRC and so not sure relay were to go
[14:02] <Slart> beluga_: it's happening for other people as well.. I'm one of them
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> Welcome. Please enjoy the ride. ;-)
[14:03] <beluga_> Slart: thanks
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> IBM1234, You might also want to have a look here: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[14:05] <jgcampbell300> ok another newb question comeing at ya ... i edited /etc/resolv.conf ... now how do i reload it
[14:06] <rigo> it was a pleasure to talk with you :D
[14:08] <deadmund> jgcampbell300: That file is live all the time.  Most of the edits are active immediately.  What did you change in their specifically?
[14:08] <Animanera> salve
[14:09] <Animanera> lista!
[14:09] <Animanera> ciao
[14:09] <Pici> !it | Animanera
[14:10] <krababbel> W4sp: I rebooted, and while it did load xdm, there was graphical corruption.
[14:11] <JoshuaP> I installed Ubuntu and later found out that I typo'd my username. Can I change this?
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> !pm > IBM1234
[14:14] <savio> hello everyone
[14:17] <subz3r0> !pm > subz3r0
[14:19] <WeThePeople> hi
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> !ot > IBM1234
[14:22] <kitty_> please help me create a limited user account in ubuntu 12.04
[14:23] <JoshuaP> kitty_, limited how?
[14:24] <F1CCC> Bjr a tous !! Je suis nouveau ici et un peut perdu !!!  aie aie
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> !fr | F1CCC
[14:25] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, hi. i need to create a new user that must prompt for the root password everytime the SUDO command is used.
[14:25] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, please help.
[14:25] <F1CCC> ok merci pour l'info bien noté
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> !bot | IBM1234
[14:26] <Sidewinder1> IBM1234, I hope that helps. ;-)
[14:26] <JoshuaP> kitty_, why don't you just deny sudo access to the user?
[14:27] <Raydiation> does enigmail (thunderbird plugin) also encrypt attachements like pdfs when you activate encryption?
[14:27] <JoshuaP> kitty_, if the user knows the root password, but can't use sudo, there is no point in even trying to bypass the userpassword.
[14:27] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, i am absolutely new to linux. can you please guide me  how can i do that?
[14:28] <erik49_> anyone know how to view/manage all active remote desktop (xrdp) sessions?
[14:28] <JoshuaP> kitty_, when you add the user, make sure that user is without the group called "sudo"
[14:28] <erik49_> or just how to get remmina to resume instead of starting new sessions \=
[14:28] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, can you guide me how to do it the command-line way please?
[14:29] <JoshuaP> erik49_, What do you mean?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> kitty_: man chmod
[14:29] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, i know i have to use adduser command. but not any more.
[14:29] <JoshuaP> kitty_, when you open the terminal, type adduser.
[14:29] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, done
[14:30] <JoshuaP> It will ask you for user credentials.
[14:30] <kitty_> JoshuaP__, adduser kitty
[14:30] <JoshuaP> Type all of that in, but when you come up to groups, for primary group, type "users" so the user is in the group "users".
[14:31] <jwhisnant> I am using 12.04 and bash seems to send the character 'x' to nowhere; it seems to be a user problem (created a test user, and it works ok)
[14:31] <JoshuaP> For secondary group(s), you don't have to put anything.
[14:31] <Owner> what is the source of all the worlds suckage
[14:32] <jwhisnant> Any ideas as to where to look for the problem, or the easiest way to set all the bash options to a sane default?
[14:32] <JoshuaP> kitty_, then the user is without use of the sudo command and if they try to sudo, the user will be reported by the system and denied access for use of the sudo command.
[14:32] <Owner> woops wrong channel
[14:32] <JoshuaP> Owner, ya think?
[14:33] <|Anthony|> i installed fedora in a separate partition last night, and now i'd like to uninstall it. During the install, it obviously installed it's own grub. What do i need to do to get get it back to the reliable ubuntu set up?
[14:33] <JoshuaP> jwhisnant, what do you mean when you say bash sends 'x' nowhere?
[14:33] <JoshuaP> |Anthony|, Do you have ubuntu on a partition?
[14:34] <|Anthony|> indeed JoshuaP
[14:34] <|Anthony|> in a primary no less
[14:34] <|Anthony|> just reinstall GRUB from ubuntu?
[14:34] <JoshuaP> |Anthony|, well which grub is in /boot?
[14:35] <|Anthony|> JoshuaP, they have there own /boot. It's bad to have different distros share /boot
[14:35] <|Anthony|> i learned that the hard way
[14:36] <JoshuaP> |Anthony|, which grub loads first?
[14:40] <drag0nius> what was iptables entries file location?
[14:40] <jwhisnant> JoshuaP: I mean gooduser (echo 'xyz' --> xyz), baduser (echo 'yz' --> yz) - baduser typed the x, wasnt echoed; seen in konsole (desktop) and ssh connection; I am using virtualbox, in case the problem might somehow be there for the "default" user
[14:42] <Alpha-Omega> I just accidently added a master boot record to a hard drive that only had files on it, it was for storage, now when I do sudo fdisk -l, it doesn't show up, did I destroy it or something?
[14:42] <Alpha-Omega> the ubuntu install asked me to add to the hard drive and it ended up adding the master boot record to my hard drive that had only files on it
[14:43] <JoshuaP> jwhisnant, I've known of KDE having problems with the first user. I've always had to create another user and delete the first.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Alpha-Omega
[14:43] <Alpha-Omega> I knew I should've unpligged it :(
[14:44] <kubanc> where do i change port for 89.212.44.74
[14:44] <jwhisnant> JoshuaP: ah - I am using KDE, so maybe that is my problem, thanks
[14:44] <JoshuaP> drag0nius, /etc/bash_completion.d/iptables
[14:44] <kubanc> where do i change port for vsftpd
[14:44] <Alpha-Omega> it's not showing up in testdisk
[14:45] <JoshuaP> jwhisnant, :)
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega: you can fix mbr with testdisk
[14:45] <|Anthony|> a simple grub-install /dev/sda did it for me
[14:45] <|Anthony|> good. no more fedora
[14:45] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: but if the drive isn't showing up in testdisk
[14:45] <Alpha-Omega> even though it's plugged in?
[14:46] <JoshuaP> kubanc, what port are you trying to open?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega: thats odd indeed, is it ntfs?
[14:46] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: yes it is
[14:46] <Guest11215> I do have a serious issue. When booting to LiveCD environment desktop, I can use everything (free radeon drivers too, which give me gaming power for assault cube fluidly at fixed 60fps - HD6850) but after installation, it boots into a blank screen. I see background light on screen is on, but only see a very grey-blue like colored screen without any pointers and other desktop objects :/
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | Alpha-Omega
[14:46] <mneptok> kubanc: are you using FTP because you need anonymous access?
[14:46] <hq_> hello
[14:46] <ppat> hello
[14:46] <hq_> nice to meet you
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega: you installed ntfs-3g?
[14:46] <JoshuaP> |Anthony|, is it just no fedora boot option, or is fedora completely gone? You could check and clear that with GParted
[14:47] <Alpha-Omega> and ubuntu decided to add the mbr to that drive as default instead of the one I had root installed to lol
[14:47] <Slendertron> Ok, I need assistance adding a new screen resolution.
[14:47] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: that might just do it :P
[14:47] <|Anthony|> JoshuaP, already done
[14:47] <|Anthony|> ;-)
[14:47] <Slendertron> There is no xorg.conf
[14:47] <Slendertron> And xrandr can't determine screen gamma
[14:47] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: it says ntfs-3g is the newest
[14:47] <|Anthony|> good ridden
[14:48] <JoshuaP> kubanc, you can open the port with the route settings.
[14:48]  * mneptok whispers "riddance"
[14:48] <JoshuaP> kubanc, With vsftpd, being sftp, I'd probably open up the SSH port, 22.
[14:48] <mneptok> kubanc: you really should not be using FTP unless you *have* to have anonymous access.
[14:48] <JoshuaP> |Anthony|, well done.
[14:48] <mneptok> JoshuaP: vsftpd is FTP.
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega: try ntfs from software centre
[14:48] <|Anthony|> lol
[14:49] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: so fdisk wouldn't recognize it if I don't have this installed? let me try it
[14:49] <|Anthony|> JoshuaP, only reason i'm testing it is for the multiseat functionality
[14:49] <|Anthony|> but if i could get the same net result with ubuntu i'd be a happy boy
[14:49] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: I'm on kde, there's nothing called ntfs in muon
[14:50] <albech> does evolution mail client support imap tagging, similar to what thunderbird does, when setting the imap flags?
[14:50] <JoshuaP> albech, I think so.
[14:50] <s0ck3ts> org
[14:51] <Alpha-Omega> could writing an mbr to a drive that's formatted with a partition of ntfs destroy it?
[14:51] <krababbel> Alpha-Omega: try using testdisk and see
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !info ntfs-config | Alpha-Omega
[14:51] <Alpha-Omega> krababbel: I said before, doesn't show up in testdisk
[14:51] <myrmidette> hello, is there any way to pipe output from a program that is already being executed (preferably without pausing it)?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega: enable auto boot for ntfs and try a reboot
[14:52] <krababbel> Alpha-Omega: does the disk itself show up?
[14:52] <albech> JoshuaP, just a little strage.. it seems like evolution is loading the flags i set in thunderbird, but it is storing changes locally somehow
[14:52] <Alpha-Omega> krababbel: no, doesn't show up in fdisk -l, nor anywhere else
[14:52] <meowmix> hello i shutdown linux without properly unmounting my windows harddrive
[14:52] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: the MBR is discrete from anything in the partition table.
[14:52] <meowmix> and now windows will not start
[14:52] <meowmix> what is the easiest way to fix my windows boot
[14:52] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: ls /dev/sd*
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> meowmix:loose the windows :p
[14:53] <mneptok> meowmix: ##windows may be more helpful
[14:53] <bohem> can some one help me with vsftpd? can I restrict some users to only some directories (I don't mean restrict access only to "home directory")?
[14:53] <meowmix> damn
[14:53] <meowmix> you guys are retarded today
[14:54] <meowmix> all the smart people must be getting coffee -.-
[14:54] <mneptok> meowmix: pejoratives are unwelcome
[14:54] <Daghdha_> sweettalker huh
[14:54] <Wizard> !best
[14:54] <meowmix> easiest
[14:54] <meowmix> fewest steps
[14:54] <meowmix> nubs
[14:54] <mneptok> meowmix: stop with the epithets.
[14:54] <kubanc> where do i disable public view in vsftp
[14:55] <mneptok> ah well.
[14:55] <Alpha-Omega> mneptok: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5
[14:55]  * mneptok wonders if all these people coming from Windows understand that SFTP IS BUILT-IN AND IS SECURE
[14:55] <evvsko> hi
[14:55] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: is that other disk a SATA device?
[14:55] <Alpha-Omega> mneptok: yes
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> kubanc: try #vsftpd they might know all about
[14:56] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: does it have eco-friendly hardware controllers that reduce power when not in use?
[14:56] <Wizard> LOL
[14:56] <Wizard> Eco friendly.. LOLOLOL.
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:57] <Alpha-Omega> just before I installed kubuntu, the drive worked fine, I accidently wrote the mbr to this other drive because thats what it defaulted to and I didn't understand wording, I had to go into rescue mode and write grub to this hard drive im on now
[14:57] <Alpha-Omega> and boom this drive isnt being detected
[14:57] <Alpha-Omega> mneptok: don't think so
[14:57] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: if the drive has dropped to a low power consumption mode, it may not be visible.
[14:57] <SDI> guten tag alle
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega: pastebin your etc/fstab in channel mate, so we can take a look
[14:57] <fidel> !de > SDI
[14:57] <jgcampbell300> I could use a bit of help ... i cant seem to get my eth0 to come up .. eth1 works fine .. but trying to set eth0 to static on my server and run a dhcp on the server just for eth0 and not eth1 ... is there a special way to set up /etc/network/interfaces to make this happen ?
[14:58] <SDI> thx danke
[14:58] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169982/
[14:58] <fidel> jgcampbell300: was there any lately hardware change on that box (eth)?
[14:58] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: have you powered-off and reseated all the connectors for that drive?
[14:59] <Alpha-Omega> mneptok: you mean trying to unplug and plug back in, yeah I tried it
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega:wich is the drive thats doesnt show anymore?
[14:59] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: tried different cables? different port on the motherboard?
[14:59] <Alpha-Omega> i'm about ready to check in the BIOS if it's detected, but it is spinning so it seems to be working
[15:00] <gmachine_24> I cloned a partition using Clonezilla and need to generate a new UUID for the second hard drive; how do I do this?
[15:00] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: it's a drive with just files on it
[15:00] <Alpha-Omega> it's 1 TB
[15:00] <jgcampbell300> fidel: no it is close to a fresh build ... only thing i have installed is maas and maas-dhcp ... along with changes to interfaces file for static to public nic
[15:00] <Alpha-Omega> it's my storage
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega:is it showing in fstab?
[15:01] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: nope, the other two partitions are my windows partition for windows install
[15:01] <Lukas1321> losoli
[15:01] <Lukas1321> oh sorry
[15:01] <Alpha-Omega> maybe I should try restarting into Windows, see if I have luck in there?
[15:01] <Lukas1321> wrong chatroom
[15:01] <fidel> jgcampbell300: ok - i was just thinking about persistent-net.rules by udev - but that would usually come as a result of changed hardware
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> Alpha-Omega:did you use pysdm in the past?
[15:01] <fidel> was just a random first idea - so skip it ;)
[15:01] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: haven't even heard of it
[15:02] <jgcampbell300> fidel: its running 10/100 eth1 and 10/100/1000 eth0 ... hmm gona check something
[15:02] <Alpha-Omega> let me check in windows, see if I can see the drive
[15:02] <Alpha-Omega> brb
[15:03] <Bipul> Can any one tell me difference between Self Respect and Ego ?
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Bipul
[15:04] <jgcampbell300> tryed lshw -C network ... eveything there looks right ... hmm
[15:08] <Alpha-Omega> alright, well I restarted into Windows and the drive came up fine
[15:08] <Alpha-Omega> I come back into kubuntu and guess what, it's automatically mounted and shows up
[15:08] <Alpha-Omega> how idk
[15:09] <py_can> I have 6gb in Windows 7. On ubuntu it only shows 3.2 gb. both my windows and ubuntu are 64bit. Bios shows 6gb. ???
[15:09] <Alpha-Omega> why it wasn't showuing up in testdisk and fdisk idk
[15:09] <Alpha-Omega> py_can: you need to use 64 bit version of the OS
[15:09] <Alpha-Omega> ohh
[15:09] <py_can> Alpha-Omega, I am aware
[15:09] <Alpha-Omega> my bad
[15:09] <py_can> ;)
[15:10] <wN> Alpha-Omega: the kernel wasn't aware that it existed?
[15:10] <Alpha-Omega> lotuspsychje: would you happen to know whether I need to do anything now to remove the mbr on the drive with the files or anything I need to do?
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> Alpha-Omega, Sometimes when an external HD isn't "Safely Removed" from within windows; it doesn't show up in *nix. I'm not really sure why..
[15:10] <Alpha-Omega> wN: I guess not, but restarting made it somehow aware
[15:11] <Alpha-Omega> wN: ohh, I know what the problem is, damn I'm stupid lol, I plugged the drive in while the OS was already loaded
[15:11] <wN> perhaps the bios did not present it to the kernel correctly.
[15:11] <wN> ah. there you go
[15:11] <py_can> Why does my 64bit ubuntu only shows 3.2gb from the 6gb my bios/windows tells me I have ?
[15:11] <py_can> RAM
[15:11] <Alpha-Omega> i used arch before, never had issue with this
[15:11] <Alpha-Omega> weird for me, I though hot-swapping would be possible
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> py_can:maybe a few are dead?
[15:12] <AcidRain2012> i am usuing ubuntu 11.04, and am having problems using the firewire driver with jackd to record. what channel can i get help for this?
[15:12] <Alpha-Omega> so just my last question, would I need to write something else to the mbr now that I have grub installed to it, what if I want to clean out grub or w.e.?
[15:12] <py_can> lotuspsychje, no, in windows it works fine
[15:13] <py_can> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/MxSRifz5
[15:13] <akSeya> hello :)
[15:15] <te> py_can: Did you do:  sudo apt-get -f install  ?
[15:15] <py_can> te: no, should i ?
[15:15] <te> py_can: Sure, give it a try.
[15:15] <py_can> te: nothing seemed to have happened apart from 0upgraded, 0newly installed
[15:16] <mushin> can someone help me sort this annoying Locale error i keep getting?
[15:16] <te> py_can: uname -a  #Tell us what that says.
[15:17] <py_can> te: Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:17] <mushin> 2.6.18-028stab095.1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 24 20:15:15 MSD 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:17] <mushin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170024/
[15:17] <py_can> te: that IS 64bit right :D
[15:18] <te> py_can: Looks like you can just remove those two packages.  I'm not sure how they got installed though, do you know?
[15:18] <py_can> te: I searched for "only 3.2gb in ubuntu" on google, went to this how-to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[15:18] <py_can> and it made me do that
[15:19] <krofna> I upgraded my ubuntu to 12.10 and it wont boot anymore... (stuck on purple screen) What should I do?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> py_can: free -m in terminal
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> krofna: its highly recommended to clean install precise
[15:20] <py_can> lotuspsychje:http://pastebin.com/zcvgAu48
[15:20] <est11> krofona: where exactly does it get stuck? can you see grub menu?
[15:20] <krofna> yes, after I choose ubuntu from menu
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> py_can: how sure are you the other ram worked in windows
[15:21] <krofna> @lotuspsychje what do you mean? reinstall?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> krofna:yes clean install
[15:21] <krofna> :(
[15:21] <py_can> lotuspsychje: pretty sure, bios regonizes it. Then I go into windows and have 9503 programs open at once, including really heavy ones and it wouldnt work that well without having 6gb
[15:22] <te> py_can: The last paragraph on that page says, "If something went wrong, just remove the PAE kernel packages using either synaptic or apt-get/aptitude"
[15:22] <py_can> te: rebooting, sec
[15:23] <te> py_can: wait
[15:23] <py_can> te: ok
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> py_can: lshw show you all the ram modules?
[15:23] <te> py_can: sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-generic-pae:i386 linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae:i386
[15:23] <te> py_can: If they do not exist, it will tell you.
[15:24] <mushin> does anyone know how i can fix this error "perl: warning: Setting locale failed."?
[15:24] <est11> krofna: try to change parameters in the grub menu like vga=775
[15:24] <krofna> @lotuspsychje will all my data be lost if i do that?
[15:24] <py_can> te: sure
[15:24] <py_can> lotuspsychje: sec
[15:25] <te> py_can: or, you can just see if they are in the list of installed packages.
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> krofna: better try rescue first, then clean install
[15:25] <krofna> oki will try.
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> krofna: any error un purple screen?
[15:25] <py_can> its gone te
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> hm
[15:26] <te> py_can: dpkg -L |grep pae
[15:26] <py_can> dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[15:27] <te> py_can: This is something that you do not need, (because you already have a 64bit system).
[15:27] <py_can> te: it is gone :)
[15:27] <py_can> wait
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> how can i fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise?(ati card)
[15:27] <safinaskar> py_can: "dpkg -l" and not "dpkg -L"
[15:28] <py_can> te, lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/tkXn1AK1
[15:28] <te> py_can: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep pae
[15:29] <te> py_can: sudo apt-get update
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> py_can: slots looks good
[15:29] <savio> anyone CEH?
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> savio: what do you mean
[15:30] <savio> CEH certified
[15:30] <evvsko> my computer always halts
[15:31] <evvsko> system UBUNTU 11.10
[15:31] <py_can> te: with the dpkg -l | grep pae I get one result of a package that I cant uninstall trough "sudo apt-get remove <package>"
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> evvsko: provide little more info plz? errors? logs?
[15:31] <py_can> te: it is called "rc  linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae:i386"
[15:32] <Guest85880> Can Adobe Reader (Linux) be downloaded and used on Xubuntu without problems.  My "Document Viewer and Xpdf" will just not print a full page like Adobe reader.  When I had Ubuntu I had downloaded Adobe Reader - Linux, but both times (I reinstalled Ubuntu 2 times) I eventually ended up having the same problems.
[15:32] <te> py_can: ls /boot/   #Let's see what is there.
[15:32] <py_can> te: http://pastebin.com/bMRWCFF2
[15:33] <te> py_can: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae:i386
[15:33] <py_can> te: tried that
[15:33] <py_can> te: it says its not installed
[15:33] <te> py_can: sudo apt-get update
[15:34] <vaio> hello evryone
[15:34] <wens07> msg NickServ identify  6556163
[15:34] <Daghdha_> uhuh
[15:34] <py_can> nice wens07
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> wens07: you might wanna choose new password now
[15:35] <Sokel> hi
[15:36] <vaio> could anyone give me a hand with lid actions? they do not work on my ubuntu 10.04 on a vaio sz61vn. all i want to achieve is when i close the laptop lid, i want the computer to suspend.
[15:36] <py_can> te: so, all pae stuff is gone now. TRy rebooting now?
[15:36] <te> py_can: no
[15:36] <mneptok> vaio: weren't you asking about this last week?
[15:36] <vaio> suspend and hibernate work pefectly if i press the button at user menu
[15:37] <te> py_can: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |grep linux
[15:37] <vaio> mneptok... lol, yes indeed... i haven't fixed it yet
[15:37] <mneptok> vaio: are you now a pm-utils expert?
[15:37] <te> py_can: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |grep linux-image
[15:37] <py_can> te: http://pastebin.com/L30AtqQz
[15:37] <vaio> i am an expert on windows... lol... i want to get rid of it. i just suck at linux
[15:38] <py_can> everyone is an expert on windows ;)
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> vaio:good choice to loose the windows
[15:38] <mneptok> vaio: as suggested last week, you need to install the pm-utils package and begin to learn its machinations.
[15:39] <te> py_can: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> vaio  start with the basics
[15:39] <vaio> mneptok, don't want to sound grumpy, but if i started to learn everything from scratch... i would build my own OS, and not blast my brain about bugs in ubuntu
[15:39] <py_can> te: not installed, not removed
[15:39] <py_can> says it
[15:39] <te> py_can: What is the date on it?
[15:40] <te> py_can: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-headers-generic-pae
[15:40] <mneptok> vaio: well, there it is. there's no infomred answer anyone in this channel without the exact same make and model laptop can give you. it would be all guessing.
[15:40] <py_can> te: i figured that cmd out myself ^^
[15:40] <vaio> mneptok, they are installed already
[15:40] <py_can> te: Aug 27 17:29
[15:41] <vaio> i was hoping, maybe, someone with more expertise than me... i don't know... perhaps give it a shot?
[15:42] <mneptok> vaio: there is no published standard for this stuff. OEMs implement it differently, and just enough so Windows can be made to work. without your exact laptop in front of me, it's all guesswork.
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> theres a bug on vaio suspend here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/951242
[15:43] <vaio> i understand mneptok, but your guess could be better than mine anyway
[15:44] <te> py_can: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic
[15:44] <wens07>  hi, everyone
[15:45] <Azodon> Hello
[15:45] <vaio> thanks lotuspsychje... i just had a look at it. it is the same thing from what i see.
[15:45] <te> py_can:  Above command may not be necessary, but just to make sure the kernel you are using is still correctly installed/configured for use.
[15:46] <py_can> do you want the output of that?
[15:46] <te> py_can: Yes
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> vaio: that was on gnome-desktop3, but still i read alot of vaio laptops with suspend problems...
[15:46] <py_can> te: http://pastebin.com/922JvCZU
[15:46] <vaio> i still have a problem though with launchpad... most of the comments are utter junk - status this and status that, as if it's solved
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> vaio: any bios upgrades you can try for suspend problems on sony driver site?
[15:47] <Joelito> hi, does anyone know where synaptic saves its settings ?
[15:47] <vaio> lotuspsychje i did have that problem with ubuntu 12... i had to install it because precise is all but precise... so installed lucid
[15:47] <te> py_can: Is this a wubi install?
[15:47] <G0DUB> Having problems after 'upgrading' from 10.04 to 12.04.01 on a 64 bit laptop. Now getting 'disk drive not ready or not available errors'. Tried some solutions from the web but no success so far. Anyone have any clues?
[15:47] <py_can> te: yes
 bios is already at the newest version... at least that's what sony reports
[15:48] <pinkus> can i do a minimal install (no gui) using the normal 64bit installer?
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: a clean install is very recommended mate
[15:48] <sqturnn> just wanted to say hi, and to say out loud that unity is damn great and i'm loving it <3
[15:48] <vaio> but as i said, suspension and hibernation work just fine when i press the button at user menu
[15:48] <Sokel> Unity disgusts me. Rather use xfce or kde.
[15:49] <te> py_can: Well, I did not know that.  I guess that answers the question as to why it happened in the first place.
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: the drive has only ubuntu on or dualboot?
[15:49] <G0DUB> lotus: that's what I was afraid of :-( Not good for user loyalty though
[15:49] <py_can> te: Sorry but I dident think it would make any difference
[15:49] <te> py_can: I would recommend you do a real ubuntu install.
[15:49] <G0DUB> lotus: ubuntu only
[15:49] <cogster> how in 12.04 do i reset a window to not always be on top of the tworkspace
[15:49] <py_can> te: allright thanks for the help anyawy
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: sata ide ssd?
[15:49] <te> py_can: There is a lot of difference. But never mind.
[15:49] <pinkus> can i do a minimal install (no gui, no ssh, etc) using the normal 64bit installer?
[15:50] <te> py_can: Do a real linux install ;0)
[15:50] <pinkus> or is the server installer the best bet?
[15:50] <py_can> te: yep, will do
[15:50] <te> py_can: Ok good.
[15:50] <G0DUB> lotus: sata
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: on wich part are you stuck? install or boot?
[15:51] <te> pinkus: If you want no gui, server install would be good.
[15:51] <Sokel> pinkus: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:51] <Azodon> I just installed debian on my droid3
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Azodon
[15:52] <G0DUB> lotus: it fails on boot. Will not get past a crop of disk not found errors. Tried amending fstab to use uuid but and doing fsck not no joy. The drive is available if I use a live cd for boot though
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: messed with fstab or pysdm in the past?
[15:53] <Azodon> Sorry wrong chan. Unity rocks
[15:53] <Haffe> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 with an audigy 2.
[15:53] <G0DUB> lotus: the only thing that has touched fstab was the update to 12.04 :-(
[15:54] <Haffe> As of now I have no sound. I have tried doing sudo alsamixer, but I keep getting an error that alsa can't open mixer.
[15:54] <Haffe> How to solve?
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> odd quesiton here ... i installed a dhcp server on a net and have 7 computers connected to it thou a swicth ... where do i find a list of the ip's and mac's from cli
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> GODUB:really strange mate, maybe try a reinstall of 12.04.1 ontop?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: i also had many errors on upgrades, so now i only choose clean
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !info etherape | jgcampbell300
[15:55] <G0DUB> lotus: I had hoped to fix without a reinstall as that will mean all my packages and home will need replacing/backing up. With I had kept better notes as the system grew :-(
[15:56] <jgcampbell300> lotuspsychje: is that something i can use safely on my network ?
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: not sure what broke the disk error mate
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> jgcampbell300: yeah sure, its shows every computer connected
[15:56] <te> jgcampbell300: sudo nmap -O2 -sV --version_light -p0-65535 192.168.x.0/24  #To show lots of info on your network.
[15:56] <jgcampbell300> lotuspsychje: thank you
[15:57] <jgcampbell300> te: thanks
[15:57] <backbox> ciao
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> te: interesting line
[15:57] <G0DUB> lotus: unlike others who reported broken upgrades I did not have any power dips etc. Something didn't work right as update was not complete but I did get it to complete through use of rescue disk.
[15:57] <te> jgcampbell300: You can just do a broadcast ping. ping -b 192.168.1.0
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> !it | backbox
[15:58] <jgcampbell300> te: that sounds like what i need to do for now ... i need to learn more base things ... ty
[15:58] <te> lotuspsychje: How to find MAC addresses on a network?: scan your network eg.: nmap 192.168.0.*  and run "arp -vn" after that.
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> jgcampbell300: like te says nmap is a must have
[15:59] <te> (192.168.0.* is just an example...)
[15:59] <bohem> Hello guys, can some one help me with vsftpd, please? can I restrict some users to only some directories (I don't mean restrict access only to "home directory")?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> te: i knew the internal ip part, but not the version light
[15:59] <te> bohem: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> bohem join #vsftpd
[16:00] <te> lotuspsychje: ok... /fyi
[16:00] <VarmVaffel> why do I get windows style line endings when I use vi on ubuntu?
[16:00] <bohem> te - thank you :)
[16:00] <te> NP
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> GODUB:what about livecd into your system and try rescue hd
[16:01] <jgcampbell300> so let me ask this ... in /etc/resolv.conf .. can i have nameserver 127.0.0.1 can i add nameserver 8.8.8.8 right under that to make it look there if the first one gives no results
[16:02] <G0DUB> lotus: The 12.04 live cd doesn't have a rescue option I can find... I have been booting from than then chrooting to the old system. Where do I find the rescue option?
[16:03] <jgcampbell300> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[16:03] <jgcampbell300> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[16:03] <jgcampbell300> hmm then where do i edit at
[16:03] <FloodBot1> jgcampbell300: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> GODUB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[16:04] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: Personally, what I do is put my modifications in and do chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf to make sure it doesn't get overwritten. But that's on my router, because I run my own DNS server.
[16:04] <G0DUB> lotus: thanks will give that a go now
[16:05] <jgcampbell300> Sokel: i think it has to be left alown . im not sure but im trying to set up maas ... any ideas on this
[16:07] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: That disclaimer is there just as a warning. You can modify all you want, but you should backup the originals first. I personally have no idea how maas works or how to set it up. I don't have it in production, so I don't have the incentive exactly yet.
[16:07] <jgcampbell300> Sokel: ok .. thank you
[16:08] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: And if you do make changes to the file, you modify /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and chattr +i on it to prevent changes.
[16:08] <jgcampbell300> Sokel: makes since
[16:08] <trond-> hi room. When I run unity_support_test -p I get VMware as OpenGL Vendor. When I run lspci -v I get VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) ... why do I get vmware and not intel as opengl vendor? How can I fix this? ... Upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.
[16:10] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: Though I don't see their reasoning to do that. /etc/resolv.conf was fine. Don't see why they have to throw symlinks everywhere. At least in RHEL things are in their right spots. But to each their own. Can't judge a distro by its symlinks.
[16:10] <knownada> I have sudo enabled and I am trying to setup a cronjob to run a php script
[16:10] <knownada> but it is not running
[16:10] <Sokel> knownada: What do you mean it's "not running"
[16:10] <knownada> I think sudo has something to do with it
[16:10] <Sokel> knownada: Where's the logs? You need logs to see what's wrong.
[16:10] <Topol> Hello, where is the Ubuntu Christian Channel?
[16:11] <knownada> its not executing...its supposed to go off every minute...
[16:11] <Topol> Anybody know?
[16:11] <Topol> ._.
[16:11] <knownada> where are the cron.log files?
[16:12] <Sokel> knownada: Everything shoudl be showing up in /var/log/syslog.
[16:13] <knownada> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170147/
[16:14] <Sokel> knownada: That doesn't help when you have /dev/null 2>&1
[16:14] <Sokel> knownada: You're suppressing the output.
[16:14] <knownada> sokel : thats what it is showing... but I know it snot running.. I just moved to a new dedicated box and using sudo this time around and I know that has something to do with it
[16:15] <knownada> k..lemme change
[16:15] <Sokel> knownada: We need to see a real output to know what's going on.
[16:15] <jgcampbell300> how long should ping -b 192.168.1.0 take
[16:16] <TheLordOfTime> jgcampbell300:  infinite, try 192.168.1.1 instead of 192.168.1.0
[16:16] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: You're not going to get a response.
[16:17] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: could take a while if nothing responds to broadcast pings
[16:17] <knownada> its not even showing up now in syslog
[16:17] <jgcampbell300> i thought broadcast happend at 255
[16:18] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: The point is, you're not going to get a response.
[16:18] <jgcampbell300> ahh
[16:18] <c88> yay www.ubuntu.com now works from Sweden
[16:18] <knownada> Aug 27 11:18:01 ubuntu CRON[18648]: (root) CMD (sudo /usr/bin/php -q /var/www/pts/cron.php)
[16:18] <knownada> that is all it is showing
[16:18] <Sokel> jgcampbell300: Maybe back in the day you could.
[16:20] <jgcampbell300> sokel: so useing nmap .. my goal is to know ip address and mac address of everything on the dhcp ... so maybe nmap -v 192.168.1.*/16 ?
[16:20] <gordonjcp> jgcampbell300: why not look at the dhcp server?
[16:20] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp: its on the server and i dont know how
[16:21] <Sokel> knownada: Do this, put a >> /home/yourname/cron.log 2>&1 at the end of your cron line.
[16:21] <gordonjcp> well, find out how
[16:21] <Sokel> knownada: Then see what happens.
[16:21] <wow> ciao
[16:21] <gordonjcp> it's going to be easier than pratting about with nmap
[16:21] <wow> !list
[16:22] <jgcampbell300> gordonjcp: good idea ... back to google lol
[16:24] <dperk> looking for help.  Just upgraded server from 10 to 12 and I reboot and see "loading grub" but then all video dies and no ping to server.  I don't see anything on serial either. I can rescue and mount root & boot.  Any ideas where to start?  I feel Grub is the issue somehow.
[16:33] <Azzle-Dazzle> thunderbird does not notify me instantly of emails, Only when I open the app and select get mail does my emails come through, Why is this
[16:36] <tnk1> good day, all
[16:36] <damms005> Afternoon. Pls how do I know the sizeof a blank/empty (unformated) disc
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  what type of disk are we talking about?
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  it should be "explained" on the disk itself, with some documentation of maxSize
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> or storage capacity
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> (unless its a DVD)
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> (then its kind of 4.7GB-ish)
[16:38] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: In my case, it is not written anywhere on the disk
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  what type of disk?
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> HDD? solid-state?
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> flash drive?
[16:38] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: Just a blank DVD disc that I'm hopping to burn video on
[16:39] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  if its a blank DVD disk, it should be around 4GB
[16:39] <TheLordOfTime> maybe 4.2ish, i have ones that are labeled as 4.7GB
[16:39] <TheLordOfTime> DVDs are kind of easy to tell, they only come in one general size.
[16:39]  * TheLordOfTime checks 
[16:40] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: So there is no way of checking to be certain?
[16:40] <trond-> Azzle-Dazzle, I would believe that there is a setting there which tells you to search for mail every X seconds / minutes.
[16:40] <damms005> Brasero is saying my unformatted BLANK DVD disc is 1.3G???
[16:40] <trond-> Azzle-Dazzle, it's found here: Tools > Account Settings > Server Settings.
[16:41] <tomasm-> hi, is there a simple text editor like gedit that allows for font styling, ie bold, italic, underline, font sizes,  etc? I want something lightweight (not like open office or bluefish)... ive tried tomboy but my impression is that it has it's own database for storing files/notes, not using the file system like normal
[16:41] <damms005> Pls help me on how to determine the size of my blank (NEW) DVD
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  how "old" is that DVD disk?
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> in terms of age of purchase
[16:42] <gordonjcp> tomasm-: like a really lightweight wordprocessor?
[16:42] <gordonjcp> tomasm-: or like a wysiwyg web editor?
[16:42] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: 1 day old. I just bought it
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> !privmsg | damms005
[16:43] <tomasm-> gordonjcp, yeah all i need is something like tomboy but will work with normal files... not for web stuff - just basic word processing... i've been using gedit but i need to add some structure to the file via styling
[16:43] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  if it says 1.3GB, then that's what space you have to work with, i assume the rest of the disk is taken up with other junk related to DVD video, burned by Brasero
[16:43] <TheLordOfTime> its a tad different than dealing with a data disk...
[16:43] <nsmgo> i'm having trouble having rsyslog restartting. where would I begin debugging?
[16:43] <gordonjcp> tomasm-: tbh I tend to just use markdown syntax
[16:44] <tomasm-> gordonjcp, not familiar with that
[16:44] <nsmgo> when i run 'service rsyslog restart' cat -t -f /var/log/syslog doesn't refresh.
[16:44] <gordonjcp> tomasm-: it's very easy to turn into styled HTML, or TeX or whatever
[16:44] <neyder_> hi there
[16:45] <nsmgo> however if i reboot the machine rsyslog seems to be working fine... strange.
[16:45] <tomasm-> gordonjcp, i guess i'm looking for a direct wysiwyg tool, not something where i write code and then convert it
[16:45] <neyder_> how can I set an user to login without password in lightdm, but via command line. that's beacuse I have to do it in 40+ PCs
[16:45] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: i am sorry please. just curious. Nautilus (windows manager) mounted it as "blank DVD". when I mouseover, it shows blank:///. is there a way to access this "mount point"?
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  not if there's no data
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> damms005:  if there's no data there is no mount point, generally, its just waiting to be burned.
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> but i'm not an expert, and i have to disappear for my classes
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> but DVDs are supposed to have around 4.7GB, give or take, but if its single layer that may explain the smaller size.
[16:47] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: Please is there a linux "broghtness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)
[16:48] <damms005> Please is there a linux "broghtness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)
[16:52] <damms005> Please is there a linux "brightness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)
[16:52] <TheLordOfTime> !repeat
[16:53] <quixotedon> hello
[16:53] <quixotedon> i've got this message after running apt-get update: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[16:53] <quixotedon> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[16:54] <quixotedon> how to resolve the problem?
[16:54] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: Please is there a linux "brightness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)
[16:54] <dlam> how do i see what version of `libmemcached` is currently installed?  on fedora i could do `yum info libmemcached`
[16:55] <trism> dlam: apt-cache policy package_name;
[16:55] <damms005> TheLordOfTime: Please is there a linux "brightness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)
[16:55] <TheLordOfTime> oyi stop pinging me
[16:55] <TheLordOfTime> it causes my phone to go off in class.
[16:56] <quixotedon> damms005: seems that there's now such option yet
[16:57] <Dragonfly> hey there guys, someone help me with the laptop fan, Its not working anymore
[16:57] <damms005> ok. thanks
[16:58] <ashi> hi
[16:58] <pinkus> how do i enable the universe repo from the terminal?
[16:58] <CokeAddict> hello, I have a ubuntu server (remote). Is there a tool I can local on my windows machine to configure apache?
[16:59] <TheLordOfTime> CokeAddict:  SSH to the server
[16:59] <TheLordOfTime> do everything by hand.
[16:59] <TriBeCa99> hey guys, can anyone help me "permanently" mount a cifs share? i.e. I can mount it manually, but I can't seem to get a line in fstab to mount it on boot correctly
[16:59] <jgcampbell300> i have installed maas and am looking for the proper place to add a upstream dns server ... can anyone help
[17:00] <ashi> put the samba share entries in /etc/fstab
[17:00] <TriBeCa99> ashi was that directed to me?
[17:00] <ashi> yes
[17:01] <ashi> tribe : what did u get the error
[17:01] <Dragonfly> wica : are you around buddy ?
[17:02] <TriBeCa99> ashi when I run "sudo mount -a" i get 'mount error(13): Permission denied \n Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)"
[17:02] <\n> what
[17:03] <ashi> just check the permissions of samba share folder
[17:04] <ashi> by type this  # ls -lZd folder path
[17:04] <TriBeCa99> the share is on a windows machine
[17:05] <TriBeCa99> also i'm not sure what you mean by 'folder path'... what is folder if not the path?
[17:06] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:06] <TriBeCa99> wee, a netsplit
[17:08] <ashi__> hey tribe
[17:08] <TriBeCa99> ashi hey
[17:09] <TriBeCa99> i just chown'd to USER from ROOT, but sudo mount -a still throws the same error
[17:09] <TriBeCa99> chown'd the empty mount directory, that is
[17:10] <ashi__> type this # chcon -t smaba_rw_t folder name
[17:10] <sulphur16> Tribe: You have mount point set in /etc/fstab ?
[17:10] <TriBeCa99> sulphur16 yes
[17:10] <TriBeCa99> perhaps i'm doing that wrong, though
[17:10] <TriBeCa99> was following a guide online
[17:10] <fAz4> My system freezes randomly, which log files should check ?
[17:11] <ashi__> just type here the enteries that u gave in fstab
[17:11] <gordonjcp> fAz4: can you relate the freezing to any particular activity?
[17:12] <mcianca> Hola
[17:12] <TriBeCa99> . //192.168.34.126/work /mnt/localwork cifs /home/jared/.smcredentials,1000,1000 0 0
[17:12] <TriBeCa99> minus the leading .
[17:12] <fAz4> gordonjcp: Unfortunately no
[17:13] <gordonjcp> fAz4: your machine just locks up hard, no particular pattern to it?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> fAz4: pop in the install CD and run memtest86
[17:13] <gordonjcp> (or USB stick)
[17:13] <gordonjcp> also check your cooling fans etc
[17:14] <ashi__> tribe99; did u edit the smb.cof file
[17:14] <pinkus> if i wanted a nonGUI install, is there any difference between the alternate installer vs. the server install?
[17:14] <fAz4> gordonjcp: no pattern, i don't think it's memory problem
[17:14] <TriBeCa99> ashi__ not recently
[17:14] <fAz4> gordonjcp: i hangs every 2-3 days without any reason !
[17:14] <ratcheer> pinkus: Yes, they are different.
[17:14] <TriBeCa99> fAz4 that REALLY sounds like RAM
[17:14] <gordonjcp> yeah, or heat
[17:15] <fAz4> gordonjcp: i memtested it some weeks ago it was ok
[17:16] <fAz4> it happens since upgrade to kernel 3.2.0-29
[17:16] <ashi__> can u get log in smaba share via terminal
[17:17] <TriBeCa99> ashi__ not sure what you're asking
[17:18] <ashi__> can u get smaba share folder via terminal
[17:18] <TriBeCa99> "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.34.`16/work -o username=USER /mnt/localwork" mounts it succesfully
[17:19] <TriBeCa99> after inputting the password obv
[17:19] <TriBeCa99> except it's 126 not `16
[17:23] <ilia1234> I have a problem: I am running ubuntu 10.04. I logged in to my computer and after it asks me user name password and session type it just goes back to that welcome screen. even if I choose "gnome-recovery-mode" or even "xterm session". Finally I logged in through the recovery mode kernel and after doing `xinit' and `xfce4-session' I logged in and I have managed to start xchat. My last actions before this weird crash were to remove a brok
[17:23] <ilia1234> en package which was plymouth-oxygen... What should I do to try and fix the situation?
[17:23] <hwilde> what is an alternative to ethtool when ethtool won't support the wifi driver?
[17:24] <ashi__> go to recovery mode
[17:24] <ilia1234> I am already in it
[17:24] <TriBeCa99> ashi__ any thoughts?
[17:25] <ashi__> trib99: try it via nfs
[17:25] <ilia1234> ashi__, you mean that gnome-recovery-mode?
[17:25] <TriBeCa99> do explain ...
[17:25] <ashi__> no
[17:25] <ashi__> give this in fstab ok
[17:25] <Guddu> In Ubuntu, how do we add a printer which is connected via USB Port? Please help.
[17:26] <TriBeCa99> ready for it
[17:26] <jgcampbell300> i need to know how to view Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) those manuals and i dont know how ... anyone ?
[17:26] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: desktop or server
[17:26] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, Desktop
[17:27] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: im assuming gnome
[17:27] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, Unity
[17:28] <ashi__> bye im goine
[17:28] <akssps011> I have just installed ubuntu 11.04, but I only see a black screen (terminal), what could be the problem for no gnome desktop to be there ?
[17:28] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: if i rember right its under system settings , printer something, cups...
[17:29] <ilia1234> ok another question, can I start to X servers at once so I can start a session from a different user on a different screen (using Ctrl+Alt+F3) or something?
[17:29] <gordonjcp> fAz4: check for overheating then
[17:29] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: sorry i cant rember how exactly ... i switched to kde
[17:29] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, I see that option. My question was regarding the Device...There are 3 options LPT#1, Enter URI and Network Printer
[17:31] <TriBeCa99> aahhh, okay well my helper just left. can anyone help me mount a cifs share via /etc/fstab? I can mount manually fine, but I'd like it to automount on boot
[17:33] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/04/13/how-to-install-printer-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04/ ... take a look at that
[17:33] <Guddu> Thanks jgama
[17:33] <Guddu> Thanks jgcampbell300
[17:34] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: if you dont see your printer there i would think that your computer hasnt seen the usb device ... first i would try to unplug the usb cable and plug it back in after 30sec
[17:34] <Guddu> Ok
[17:34] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, In my case the printer needs to be installed as a Raw Device Printer....
[17:34] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: i knwo there is a cli command to ask your computer if it sees it but i dont rember what it is
[17:34] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: black and white or color
[17:34] <genii-around> jgcampbell300: dmesg | tail
[17:35] <jgcampbell300> ya that one thanks genii-around
[17:35] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, There are 2 printers. one is a dot matrix and another one is a POS Receipt Printer
[17:36] <deadmund> haha, Guddu piece of shit receipt printer...
[17:36] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: oh lol ... ya im about to have to go throu that one my self
[17:36] <jgcampbell300> deadmund: they can be very usfull in certen places
[17:36] <Guddu> deadmund, Why u call it that? :)
[17:36] <Guddu> :(
[17:36] <deadmund> POS = piece of shit or point of sale,  just joking around :P
[17:36] <Guddu> LOL
[17:36] <Guddu> Next time i willl just use the full form
[17:36] <Guddu> :P
[17:37] <jgcampbell300> lol ya ... i need a POS cash register
[17:37] <jgcampbell300> just cant afford it right now ... i want to test it out at one of my bars
[17:37] <zerocool12> hi guys
[17:37] <jgcampbell300> zerocool12: hello
[17:38] <zerocool12> do you help solve problems here?
[17:38] <jgcampbell300> zerocool12: if i can help i will but i am not the best by any means
[17:38] <zerocool12> thank you a lot
[17:38] <loganrun> is there any benifit keep /home on a seporate LVM partition than the root LVM parititon
[17:39] <zerocool12> I'm trying to watch tv on my laptop with msi usb TV card
[17:39] <zerocool12> but I dont know how to instal drivers for it
[17:40] <GatorAlli> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop 12.04.1 LTS 64bit on my Dell XPS 15 using the Live CD. I want to dualboot Ubuntu with my existing Windows installation. When I install, I get a blank installation type screen - http://i.stack.imgur.com/dsKXS.png   I have verified that my .iso checksums match, and my fdisk is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170295/
[17:40] <TriBeCa99> can anyone help me mount a network cifs share via /etc/fstab?
[17:41] <jgcampbell300> loganrun: i moved my zerocool12: lol that sounds like the old movie hackers ... anyways i dought i would be much help there as i have never used any tooner under linux
[17:41] <wN> LoganCloud: yes. if you re-install ubuntu you can save your home directory
[17:41] <wN> loganrun: ^
[17:41] <wN> thats what i do
[17:42] <zerocool12> jgcampbell300: yes, that's where I got inspiration for the nick, XD
[17:42] <zerocool12> it was maybe 6-7 years ago
[17:42] <zerocool12> didn't want to change it
[17:42] <zerocool12> :D
[17:45] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me where i can add dns addresses to Dynamic resolv.conf
[17:45] <panther_> Hi! I did an upgrade LTS to precise. Everything went okay, except for my mouse. It hangs on the left side of the screen and only up and doenw. Its a usb one . Can somone help?
[17:45] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, In System settings, a single click on a icon opens it....I want to change it to double click. how can i do that?
[17:46] <zerocool12> panther_: try to use windows key to open that new menu and type mouse,open with enter and look there what is going on
[17:46] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: if i rember right its under desktop settings ... i think you can right click the desktop and get to it there
[17:47] <prashanth0892> logout
[17:47] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, Right click on desktop only allows changin the Wallpaper etc
[17:47] <prashanth0892> exit
[17:47] <prashanth0892> quit
[17:47] <Guddu> Does not have the Single/Double click setting
[17:47] <trond-> prashanth0892, try with slash infront /quit
[17:47] <Guddu> I don't see that even in Mouse and Touochpad settings :(
[17:47] <zerocool12> try mouse settings
[17:48] <Guddu> zerocool12, ^
[17:48] <Guddu> I don't see that even in Mouse and Touochpad settings :(
[17:48] <jgcampbell300> guddu: sorry not sure ... i dont use unity any more ... didnt like it much
[17:48] <zerocool12> try some tweak
[17:48] <prashanth0892> quit
[17:48] <zerocool12> software
[17:48] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, What do you use?
[17:48] <prashanth0892> poweroff
[17:48] <panther_> zerocool12: you mean the mouse control. even when i try to control the mouse by numberbloc, it just goes up and down
[17:48] <Guddu> prashanth0892, What are you trying to do here?
[17:48] <prashanth> no idea
[17:48] <zerocool12> i've seen these setings in some tweaker
[17:48] <zerocool12> :S
[17:48] <zerocool12> panther_: idk :S
[17:48] <prashanth> just installed xcaht
[17:48] <zerocool12> panther_: try other mouse
[17:48] <zerocool12> or update
[17:49] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: i installed kde on top of ubuntu
[17:49] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: dont know if that was the smartest thing to do but i wanted to check it out
[17:49] <Guddu> prashanth, Are you learning xchat? If yes then please practise in a empty channel.
[17:49] <prashanth> ok
[17:49] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, I would like to try KDE
[17:50] <panther_> zerocool12: i did. Even a SP/2 works in the same way. I did a new kernle, but it didnt help either.
[17:50] <zerocool12> S:
[17:50] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, I willl plug in my USB Printer for now :)
[17:50] <zerocool12> what are your specifications?
[17:50] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: I would suggest duel booting into another partition ... and google alternitive ubuntu desktops
[17:52] <panther_> zerocool12: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170171
[17:52] <zerocool12> panther_: is it wireless mouse?
[17:53] <panther_> no, usb, I plugged a wireless control to check
[17:54] <zerocool12> :S
[17:54] <zerocool12> idk
[17:54] <zerocool12> try some other distro
[17:54] <zerocool12> or version
[17:54] <zerocool12> :S
[17:54] <FloodBot1> zerocool12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <zerocool12> or try clean install
[17:54] <zerocool12> o7
[17:54] <fidel> !enter > Zeroedout
[17:54] <jgcampbell300> grrr ... i have been all over the internet and i cant seem to find the config file i need to add dns servers to in order to have more than one ... if i put them in resolv.conf they get erased by something .. some dynamic resolveer
[17:55] <TriBeCa99> can anyone help me mount a network cifs share via /etc/fstab?
[17:55] <fidel> !enter > zerocool12
[17:55] <ED_> yes
[17:55] <panther_> Hi! I did an upgrade LTS to precise. Everything went okay, except for my mouse. It hangs on the left side of the screen and only up and doenw. Its a usb one . Can somone help?
[17:56] <jimcooncat> panther_: Captain Obvious would say try unplugging and plugging the mouse.
[17:56] <yoof> hello
[17:57] <panther_> Hey i tried that
[17:57] <fidel> panther_: tried > 1 usb port & > 1 mouse?
[17:57] <yoof> im lovin it
[17:57] <johan1337> can someone help me get gparted to start? im using kubuntu
[17:59] <yoof> which is better? xchat or mirc? i am trying to decide
[17:59] <panther_> everything unplugged and plugged again. Idk
[17:59] <fidel> !best > yoof
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> yoof  depends on what you prefer
[18:00] <fidel> yoof: just ask yourself what might fit FOR YOU best  - other users might have other wishes then you
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> yoof  try them both, then decide
[18:01] <yoof> ubuntu
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> 12.04 LTS
[18:02] <Sidewinder1> yoof, That's just one of the beauties of FOSS; try them both and which ever on suits, disregard the other; no need to get your money back. ;-)
[18:06] <catcher> I'd like to upgrade to svn 1.7, but all I'm seeing for ppa builds are unstable packages.  1.7 has been the recommended version for quite some time, how can I know when ubuntu will make the switch?
[18:06] <beata|lemur> I'm in the process of backporting cups 1.6.1 (and then other things) to lucid, using pbuilder and mini-dinstall according to (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto). mini-dinstall is giving me issues such as (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169097/) which I can work around by manually editing the changes file but I suspect there may be a better solution. Suggestions?
[18:06] <Makulele> people
[18:06] <Makulele> can you like this plz https://www.facebook.com/allsportslives ?
[18:07] <antoine__> hellow
[18:07] <Makulele> Antoine help me
[18:07] <Makulele> https://www.facebook.com/allsportslives just click on like :)
[18:07] <fidel> !ot > Makulele
[18:08] <yoof> cool
[18:08] <geirha> catcher: Next Ubuntu release will have 1.7
[18:08] <catcher> geirha, how do you know, and how could I have found that out myself?
[18:09] <geirha> catcher: https://launchpad.net/subversion
[18:09] <trism> !info subversion quantal | catcher
[18:09] <Guddu> jgcampbell300, USB Point of Sale receipt printer installled sucessfully....I installed it as a Generic Printer (Raw Queue)....Prints just fine
[18:09] <peeps[work]> is crontab supposed to have executable permission?
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> catcher  the version in the repos is always the recommended one
[18:09] <trism> catcher: hmm, that is old, it is actually 1.7.5-1ubuntu1
[18:10] <Guddu> Dear all....Please sugggest a good way to monitor CPU/Memory utilization on my Ubuntu Desktop
[18:10] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: cool ... was gona suggest that and forgot ... 15hr so far today on misc reading
[18:10] <fidel> Guddu: is top/htop enough?
[18:10] <Guddu> 15 Hours? How are u tracking it? :)
[18:10] <Guddu> fidel, Is there some GUI based tool?
[18:10] <Guddu> fidel, Something like Windows Task manager
[18:11] <fidel> Guddu: system-monitor?
[18:11] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: try system load viewer
[18:11] <malcolm91> How can I enable right click on my laptop?
[18:11] <fidel> Guddu: the package itself should be: gnome-system-monitor - installed by default
[18:11] <Guddu> Fidel...thanks checking
[18:11] <yoof> great
[18:11] <jgcampbell300> Guddu: lol tracking it ... i woke up lil over 15 hr ago and been sitting here eveyr since
[18:11] <Guddu> :)
[18:12] <W4sp> malcolm91: Do you have a Mac?
[18:12] <malcolm91> no. asus.
[18:12] <fidel> Guddu: in case you want wonderful graphs - check out munin ;)
[18:12] <yoof> cool
[18:12] <Guddu> malcolm91, Right click shud be enabled by default. Please explain your setup.
[18:12] <geirha> catcher: you can also do a search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:12] <fidel> yoof: anything you want to tell us?
[18:12] <catcher> is quantal in beta?
[18:12] <luftikuss> What is the purpose of the file /proc/mtd? It is empty on my Ubuntu 12.04.1.
[18:12] <Guddu> Thanks fidel....Checking now
[18:12] <malcolm91> I don't know what you mean by that?
[18:13] <trond-> I see that my glxgears -info give me GL_VENDOR  = VMware, Inc , but I am using i915 intel . why is it giving me this information? and what can I do to fix it?
[18:13] <yoof> fine
[18:13] <fidel> catcher: #ubuntu+1 for coming release discussion (if that helps)
[18:14] <W4sp> malcolm91: Did you try any on the meta keys to simulate the right-click?
[18:14] <catcher> thanks everyone
[18:14] <W4sp> malcolm91: The come with two mouse buttons anyway, so what model do you have?
[18:15] <tqrst> ever since I upgraded from natty to oneiric ocelot, I haven't been able to login (error: login timed out after 60 seconds). Halp?
[18:15] <loganrun> what is the ubuntu way of changing a program to run at boot like chkconfig, or is that what I should use
[18:15] <errterw> yes
[18:15] <catcher> Is there a reliable PPA for svn 1.7 in the meantime?
[18:15] <malcolm91> I tried the meta keys. ctrl only opens something in a new page.
[18:15] <malcolm91> The others do nothing.
[18:16] <beata|lemur> *snickers* parse error in dpkg-deb
[18:17] <multipass> hey I want to make a cron that updates the time every so often, but this doesnt seem to be working -- "* * * * * ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" -- how can i fix this?
[18:17] <catcher> I guess a better question would be if it's a bad idea to use quantal packages in an older version?
[18:18] <yoof> great
[18:18] <fidel> catcher: dont mix packages
[18:18] <loganrun> does anyone know how to configure a daemon to start at boot on ubuntu? do I use chkconfig or some other program
[18:18] <catcher> kk
[18:20] <peeps[work]> can someone please help me, my cron.daily jobs are not running as expected.  I have +x permission on the scripts, running "run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily" performs the scripts as expected, but when i come back the next day, my scripts do not appear to have run automaticallyu
[18:20] <W4sp> multipass: That should be fine. I suggest you replace the first star with 5, making the process run every five minutes. That will be more than enough. .
[18:21] <malcolm91> W4sp: I've seen forums on this problem, but I do not understand them.
[18:21] <multipass> W4sp: hey, yeah i was just trying to make sure it ran.. but it doesnt seem to be running
[18:21] <multipass> it is a sudo crontab, so that it can run the command
[18:22] <sda> hola, if i put a kernel module in the blacklist, it mean the device isn't going to be used (powered) or just i am not able to use it? thanks! I'm trying to save as much power possible from my laptop.
[18:22] <ilia1234> how do I check if dbus is running properly? after uninstalling a broken package: plymouth-oxygen-theme I couldn't log in to my computer unless running the recovery mode kernel and starting a session logged in as root. after that I removed .ICEauthority and /tmp/.ICE... as someone suggested me, and still the only way I can log in is via root. when I log in from my own user (sudo -u ilia xfce4-session for example) it says it can't connect
[18:22] <ilia1234>  to dbus.
[18:23] <yoof> i knew it
[18:23] <W4sp> multipass: You can give the process -v for verbose. Also, see if your crontab has a $HOME setting and use that path and see if it works from command line. Also, ntpdate is normally in /usr/sbin/ntpdate, spec the full path if needed.
[18:24] <Chris____> I've got a drive that's entirely encrypted with truecrypt, so it's no known readable FS to Linux or any other OS; how can I share this drive over my LAN?
[18:25] <yoof> cool stuff
[18:25] <scatenajacopo> ciao
[18:25] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I'm developing a small website using xml and I wondered if anybody could give me some suggestions to make up my mind on whether I XSLT transformations should be performed on the client or on the server. Anyone ( : ?
[18:25] <scatenajacopo> !list
[18:25] <yoof> i know
[18:25] <luftikuss> What is the purpose of the file /proc/mtd? It is empty on my Ubuntu 12.04.1.
[18:25] <scatenajacopo> !list
[18:25] <fidel> Lorra: i dont see that your question is somehow related with the channels topic. have you considered asking in other channels aswell?
[18:25] <dgjones> yoof: No need for the random commentary, if you have an Ubuntu support question, ask it
[18:25] <W4sp> multipass: Also, Do you have /etc/cron.daily/ntpdate chmod'ed executable?
[18:26] <tqrst> I can't login ever since I upgraded from natty to ocelot. After typing in my username, I get "login timed out after 60 seconds". Any ideas?
[18:26] <Lorra> fidel, I could ask an xslt-spefic channel, but I guess it wouldn't be as active as this one, that's why I'm asking here
[18:26] <tqrst> my guess is that the upgrade got rid of yp/nis, but why on earth would it have done that?
[18:26] <Guddu> Lorra....Try in #xml May be....
[18:27] <W4sp> luftikuss: It's a socket.
[18:27] <fidel> Lorra: now read the channels topic again and ask yourself if its clever to ask inhere - as channels have topics - and try to stay on them ;)
[18:27] <tqrst> Lorra: stackoverflow would probably be a better place to ask this, especially since the answers will be available for other people in the future
[18:27] <scatenajacopo> ciao
[18:27] <scatenajacopo> !list
[18:28] <yoof> i know eh
[18:28] <yoof> what do you mean you quit?
[18:28] <ilia1234> can anybody please help me? I am running ubuntu 10.04 whenever i try to log in to my computer it shows the welcome screen where i am prompted to choose username password and session and after that it just shows the welcome screen again. The only way I can log in is by using the recovery-mode kernel and then starting a session logged in as netroot: xinit and then xfce4-session. Someone suggested I rm .ICEauthority and /tmp/.ICE* and it d
[18:28] <ilia1234> idn't help. any ideas?
[18:28] <scatenajacopo> !list
[18:28] <yoof> !list
[18:30] <ilia1234> when i try to start a session from my own user while running the recovery-mode kernel it says it can't connect to dbus, can't connect to settings server and a bunch of other stuff which have to do with this mysterious dbus the connectin to which was not authorized. What is dbus and why isn't it authorizing the connections?
[18:30] <Chriszilla> '
[18:30] <peeps[work]> i'm trying to get some backup scripts running using cron, but or some reason that are not running, and i'm tearing my hair out wondering why.  can someone look at this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1170371/
[18:31] <TaJMoX> How do I add a program into the unity HUD?? Shouldn't it be easy to manage the icons in there, since the whole point is being an intuitive user interface?
[18:31] <peeps[work]> /usr/sbin/anacron does not exist
[18:31] <luftikuss> W4sp: I don't think so. '~$ file /proc/mtd; /proc/mtd: empty.'
[18:32] <Sven_vB> hi
[18:32] <fidel> TaJMoX: dont use it myself - but wild guess is: start app - right-click its icon and choose the option to keep it in your dock
[18:32] <xangua> TaJMoX: hud is for the focus window menu
[18:33] <TaJMoX> xangua Okay I mean the unity applications menu thingy ... What's it called? I want to say "Start Menu" ...
[18:33] <loganrun> I did apt-get install mail-utils and it brought up a menu to configure mail during installation, is there any way to get that menu back again
[18:33] <loganrun> I tried reinstalling mailutils but it did not come back
[18:33] <TaJMoX> fidel the program is WhatPulse and doesn't have an icon, it starts in the "tray"
[18:34] <TaJMoX> fidel correction, it has an icon on the dock but I don't want it to lock there, I want it to "lock" in the applications thingy so I can click the Unity Ubuntu icon and simply type "WhatPulse"
[18:34] <TaJMoX> "Dash Home" is the label ...
[18:35] <TaJMoX> xangua The "dash" ... I want WhatPulse to appear in the Dash
[18:35] <TaJMoX> xangua Also I would like to edit the parameters of certain entries in "dash" applications ... like the icon and the command line parameters when I click the "xchat" button in there
[18:36] <W4sp> luftikuss: He're some more to digest, an easy read:- http://www.righthandtech.com/embedded-linux-managing-memory.php
[18:36] <[snake]> What makes a strong enough root password... I've got people in china and thailand attempting root authentication for some unknown and probably bizarre reason :p
[18:36] <TaJMoX> Silly that it SEEMS like it's supposed to be for a more user friendly experience, but there's a bunch of icons in there that I don't want to see and there's no right-click to edit the entries
[18:36] <TaJMoX> (I'm talking about the Ubuntu Unity dash)
[18:37] <TaJMoX> Can't add/remove/edit items in "Applications" ... weird
[18:37] <|Anthony|> how realistic is it that systemd will be stable in ubuntu?
[18:37] <BigGold> [snake]: if root login is disabled, then "password" is a strong enough root password
[18:37] <W4sp> [snake]: In Ubuntu the passwd for root isn't known. It is pseudo random generated and is meant not to be changed. Every interactive task required in Ubuntu is done by 'sudo <cmd>'.
[18:37] <BigGold> ^
[18:37] <|Anthony|> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[18:38] <[snake]> W4sp, unless of course I changed it
[18:38] <[snake]> BigGold, how can I unallow root by ssh?
[18:38] <W4sp> [snake]: Of course, if you change it manually it's not that random anymore. ;-)
[18:39] <BigGold> [snake]: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: PermitRootLogin no
[18:39] <zoktar> has there been à updated mini.iso for 12.04.1 yet? cant find it
[18:40] <Gup> Hi all,  having this exact problem http://noldgxpert.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/no-init-found-try-passing-initbootarg.html and I'm sure the fsck solution works but we dont have a CD to boot from.  Anyone know how to fix this from the busybox initramfs prompt?
[18:40] <[snake]> W4sp, haha yeah...
[18:40] <[snake]> BigGold, ok... should I edit that with visudo or something
[18:41] <BigGold> [snake]: first, find out if it's already there and uncommented: grep PermitRootLogin /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:41] <[snake]> BigGold, nvm I got confused with something else
[18:42] <W4sp> [snake]: The first time i build my own random int generator gave me always the same. lol.
[18:43] <mneptok> [snake]: what you are doing is extremly dangerous. and 99.9% of the time, unwarranted.
[18:43] <[snake]> W4sp, that's because you have to seed the randomness(which is actually preset by compiler(of whatever language you're using)) with time()
[18:44] <[snake]> mneptok, what, editing the file? or entering incorrect information?
[18:44] <mneptok> [snake]: giving the root account a password, and allowing remote root login via ssh.
[18:44] <W4sp> [snake]: It was .c and very long ago, snake. Anyway, it's too busy here as we shouldn't OT chat.
[18:45] <[snake]> mneptok, I'm disallowing
[18:45] <mneptok> [snake]: that's good. why do you need a root password?
[18:46] <W4sp> Gup: You require to boot in order to perform the tasks. If you can't make a CD see if you can get your hands on a USB pen drive or such.
[18:47] <[snake]> bye.
[18:47] <TaJMoX> Sorry, XORG crashed on me because of ... well what else, graphics problems. If anyone responded to my question about add/edit/remove of Dash applications, please respond again =)
[18:47] <TaJMoX> fglrx is the only graphics driver available for me that 'works' ...
[18:47] <netmk> TaJMoX: to the side bar?
[18:47] <TaJMoX> netmk no that's easy...
[18:47] <TaJMoX> netmk the dash
[18:48] <netmk> oh the dashboard
[18:48] <TaJMoX> netmk when you press the Dash button and type something
[18:48] <DeLorean731> I can seem to get this online game: drakensang.com to work on Ubuntu 12.04 in browser. It's a Java app. I haven't gotten other java applets to work, but not this for some reason. When I try to load it the screen just stays blank. Any suggestions?
[18:48] <netmk> hmm, aren't those just "frequent" apps?
[18:48] <TaJMoX> I installed some apps with Wine and some via tar.gz ... there's no way for me to add/edit/remove those netmk
[18:48] <TaJMoX> netmk I have to launch WhatPulse via terminal every time I start my computer ... that's silly.
[18:49] <netmk> try launching it a few times from ALT+F2
[18:49] <netmk> (or ALT+F1, dont remember which)
[18:49] <TaJMoX> netmk and yes I know how to edit "start up items" but apparently WhatPulse launches BEFORE the panel so it crashes because it needs panel
[18:49] <jimi_> I think my java installation is borked...  most applets just say "applet started" and show a grey box
[18:49] <TaJMoX> netmk Yeah that works if I run it a FEW times ... seriously...?
[18:50] <netmk> if you run it from there a few times, I think you'll see it in the dashboard.
[18:50] <netmk> since it becomes a "frequent" app
[18:51] <Ejdesgaard> I just installed openjdk-7 runtime and then wanted to remove it again, for removal, software centre wanted to download the package again...
[18:51] <netmk> TaJMoX: if you don't like Unity though, feel free to use another window manager
[18:53] <Baribal> Hi. I've bought a headset recently. When I record something and see the spectrum, it seems that the microphones flatline is off-zero. Any way to correct that?
[18:54] <chrisjlee> Hi. Anyone ever have low sound issues? I have a brand new install of 12.04 on an HP computer using  I've tried everything from alsamixer to gnome-mixer, etc. I've also reinstalled alsa/linux-generic packages. Added a ppa to latest alsa packages...
[18:54] <TaJMoX> netmk I like Unity. Just wondering if I can change an icon really is all I want to do. I want to add "WhatPulse" to the applications. Shouldn't be hard.
[18:54] <rsvp>  why does the upgrading to 12.04 REMOVE most of the prior software from 10.04 LTS ???
[18:54] <dlam> i'm running 10.04 lucid, and i wanna upgrade my `libmemcached4` package to the latest latest package, is there anyway to do that?
[18:55] <dlam> the most recent version of `libmemcached4` i got is 0.39-1~lucid1     ...but i wanna get 0.40
[18:55] <rsvp> chrisjlee, increase the system sound volume via the speaker icon at the right top.
[18:56] <chrisjlee> rsvp: yup it's at it's max.
[18:56] <rsvp> then there's submenu for the volume for each app running sound... did you check that?
[18:59] <TaJMoX> In Gnome, how do I edit/add/remove an application from the "Applications" menu??
[19:01] <WeThePeople> look for main menu
[19:01] <WeThePeople> in preferences
[19:01] <WeThePeople> if you use lucid
[19:04] <what123> erm hello ?
[19:04] <what123> how can I check the checksums of all my binaries to see if I've been hacked or not ?
[19:04] <what123> how can I check the checksums of all my binaries to see if I've been hacked or not ?
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> hacked?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> what123  that would be great news
[19:05] <what123> I'm seeing some /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-F5AwwE/database -nolisten tcp vt7 is constanlty taking 20% up to 40% of my CPU and
[19:05] <bekks> There a ways to hack you without changing the checksum of an existing file.
[19:05] <what123> bekks: that's great to know, but completely useless
[19:06] <tech1> lol
[19:06] <what123> is there a database somewhere with checksums and versions of packages that I can use to check against ?
[19:06] <netmk> what123: tripwire
[19:06] <what123> netmk: thanks
[19:06] <netmk> what123: but you need a clean baseline first.
[19:06] <rsvp> what123,  use "sha256sum foo*.files"
[19:06] <bekks> what123: As useless as your approach to compare checksums to see wether you are hacked when having a gdm load of about 40%.
[19:06] <tech1> unless they modified files you wouldnt know with checksumm?
[19:06] <tech1> wouldnt system logs be better
[19:07] <what123> rsvp: so I should do like "cd /usr/bin; sha256sum * >>/tmp/potentially_hacked; cd /bin; sha256sum * >>/tmp/potentially_hacked"
[19:07] <tech1> what makes you think you got hacked?
[19:07] <what123> netmk: how do I get the clean baseline for my Ubuntu version ?
[19:07] <what123> bekks: your comments are completely useless. please go away troll !
[19:08] <what123> bekks: if you're here to troll, go away douchebag
[19:08] <bekks> what123: come one, watch your language.
[19:08] <what123> bekks: I'm here to solve a problem not argue with idiotic douchebags like you
[19:08] <bekks> what123: And I am constantly not insulting you.
[19:08] <netmk> what123: usually you install Tripwire after a "clean" install, and then it runs to what certain files/logs for modifications, and creates alerts based on that
[19:08] <BluesKaj> what123:  be careful
[19:09] <rsvp> what123, do the sha256sum and keep the generated file of hashes, then run that very file again sha256sum to check on any changes.
[19:09] <tech1> what bekks said was actually pretty logical
[19:09] <netmk> now if you're not sure _right now_ if your system is clean or not, then it's a bit harder..
[19:09] <netmk> s/what/watch
[19:10] <netmk> in that case, rsvp suggestion would fit better
[19:11] <saidi> whats up?
[19:12] <what123> rsvp: the suggestion is good, except I've installed my system in 2010 in november..
[19:12] <what123> rsvp: and I don't have any hashes
[19:13] <clarion_admin> Can someone please tell me how to lock the widgets and or desktop on my guest account so that no one can move them. I need it to be password protected or some kind of sudo command.
[19:13] <clarion_admin> << KDE
[19:15] <Zeptis> sup #ubutunu?
[19:15] <Zeptis> *ubuntu
[19:16] <rsvp> what123, do the sha256sum on your backup files first to get baseline.
[19:16] <what123> rsvp: I don't have backups
[19:17] <Zeptis> excuse me what123, I've arrived late; what's your problem?
[19:18] <what123> brb
[19:18] <what123> bekks: FUCK YOU
[19:18] <what123> tech1: AND YOU
[19:18] <gordonjcp> hm, are parts and joins muted?
[19:19] <yoof> god i just used evince document reader
[19:19] <gordonjcp> I suspect what123 just left...
[19:19] <histo> gordonjcp: that's up to your client if you ignore theme
[19:19] <Zeptis> does anyone know the name of the daemon that controls ubu's hotkey support?
[19:19] <gordonjcp> histo: oh, I may have set that ages ago
[19:19] <yoof> i recommend adobe reader over evince document reader
[19:20] <gordonjcp> yoof: uh
[19:20] <gordonjcp> yoof: how exactly would you get that to work in Linux?
[19:20] <rsvp> wow, check the new daemon on 12.04 called whoopsie << seriously, even on server editions.
[19:20] <yoof> you would have to beg adobe to release a linux version
[19:20] <gordonjcp> rsvp: yah, it's a rather unfortunate name
[19:20] <gordonjcp> yoof: tbh I find Acrobat Reader utterly unusable
[19:21] <gordonjcp> it's slow, it crashes all the time, you can't zoom to sensible sizes or search documents
[19:21] <gordonjcp> rsvp: it's a rather unfortunate name
[19:21] <B0g4r7> I find the same to be true of a lot of adobe software, sadly.
[19:21] <yoof> really? i think adobe reader is great, however i am using an SSD
[19:21] <nux_> hi
[19:21] <Zeptis> hello nux_
[19:21] <nux_> Im in
[19:22] <rsvp> whoopsie reminds me of Microsoft tactics to get user patterns and usage under the radar.
[19:22] <yoof> and of course adobe acrobat X is still king for pdf editing, but we are talking about readers for now
[19:22] <nux_> Too noisy at home for voice
[19:22] <pale3_> My question : is gvim able to detach tabs?
[19:22] <jpds> !ot | yoof
[19:22] <gordonjcp> rsvp: I'm sure the Ubuntu devs have their reasons for calling a core system daemon a nasty homophobic slur
[19:22] <nux_> 39 steps - is my fave film
[19:22] <histo> rsvp: They actually have an app for suggestions on installed apps and user prefs for the software center
[19:22] <nux_> the robert donat one? the restored print?
[19:22] <Zeptis> yoof: any firefox GPL reader is fine, no?
[19:22] <histo> rsvp: not suggestions but user trackign on installed apps
[19:23] <histo> gordonjcp: rsvp isn't whoopsie just responsible for bug trackign if a program blows up?
[19:23] <yoof> i use google chrome as my main browser for a while now, i find firefox looks too old fashioned, like windows 2000
[19:23] <gordonjcp> histo: yup
[19:23] <zeref> hi guys, seem to having some trouble, most of my applcations seem to segfault at some point or another? is this a hardware or software problem?
[19:23] <Zeptis> you can always reskin it
[19:23] <gordonjcp> histo: it's also got a really offensive name ;-)
[19:24] <jimi_> When I go to java applets they just say loaded/started and show a gray box. Java.com says my browser is configured to use java and is updated. Is this a firefox problem?
[19:24] <gordonjcp> histo: I suppose it's an American English vs. UK English thing
[19:24] <Zeptis> zeref: could you please be more specific? Maybe you can use pastebin to post a log, and we can look over it together.
[19:24] <histo> gordonjcp: I dont' think it's offensive.
[19:24] <yoof> i could, but given that chrome looks fine right out of the box i dont see why i have to go thru the trouble with firefox, not tomention the trouble of picking which skin to choose to reskin to
[19:24] <gordonjcp> histo: it's a deeply offensive word for a homosexual
[19:25] <histo> gordonjcp: oh in the uk
[19:25] <rsvp> histo, but in case of error, then the HISTORY must be forwarded (see Privacy setting) which is bordering on user spy activity.
[19:25] <gordonjcp> histo: this is shading strongly to OT and also not massively appropriate for the channel
[19:25] <yoof> what is an offensive word for a homosexual?
[19:25] <tech1> chrome was easy to select gtk theme
[19:25] <gordonjcp> yoof: "whoopsie"
[19:25] <tech1> chrome much faster than ff too
[19:25] <jpds> rsvp: Feel free to read the source code.
[19:25] <Zeptis> yoof: It's a personal preference thing; I'm not a fan of what google is doing with Chrome, and it's less open than FF.
[19:26] <Zeptis> then again, I'm a bit of a freetard.
[19:26] <theschwartz> Is there a hotkey for sending windows to a specified side of the screen, so it splits nicely?  I think in windows it was the windows key+left or right arrow button
[19:26] <blackboxer> someone loaded a sinister LKM on my box!
[19:26] <rsvp> jpds, not worth my time... I shut down the whoopsie daemon :-)
[19:27] <jpds> rsvp: Then, please don't spread FUD, thanks.
[19:27] <gordonjcp> rsvp: it does warn you if it's going to pass on logs that may contain passwords
[19:27] <zeref> Zeptis: give me one sec
[19:27] <Zeptis> thanks zeref
[19:27] <Zeptis> blackboxer: ubuntu IRC logs say reinstall
[19:27] <histo> tech1: I have issue that chrom runs with gtk's bar on top. I'd like an easy way to disable window decorations on it and have it use it's own built in
[19:28] <zeref> Zeptis: dmesg or syslog?
[19:28] <blackboxer> Zeptis, Never!
[19:28] <yoof> im new to irc, zeptis, how come your text is highlighted in red when you are refering to me?
[19:28] <jimi_> !java
[19:28] <apparle> Guys, any VPN users around, i need some help setting up my corporate VPN
[19:28] <Zeptis> because your IRC client is smart enough to know when I'm calling your nick, Yoof. :P
[19:29] <Zeptis> zeref: where-ever it's outputting seg-fault errors
[19:29] <luftikuss> W4sp: Thank you very much for providing a link th this informative article.
[19:29] <apparle> !vpn
[19:29] <jpds> apparle: Need more info, are you using openvpn? What problem are you having exactly?
[19:29] <rsvp> gordonjcp, precisely (no pun intended), and where is the info going? To some server named daisy run by Ubuntu -- which security is not guarantee -- so jpds, there is a lot to be leary of wrt whoopsie.
[19:29] <W4sp> luftikuss: Did it help?
[19:29] <gordonjcp> rsvp: nonsense
[19:29] <gordonjcp> rsvp: also, #u-ot
[19:29] <yoof> well i am using hexchat but that doesnt seem to matter
[19:29] <luftikuss> W4sp: Yes.
[19:30] <gordonjcp> apparle: what sort of VPN is it?
[19:30] <Zeptis> blackboxer: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/19/%23ubuntu.txt << find LKM in that log.
[19:30] <Bipul> !c++ Bipul
[19:30] <apparle> jpds: I've cisco vpn client in windows. Want to setup vpn in linux, where to start
[19:30] <apparle> gordonjcp: ^
[19:30] <Bipul> !c++
[19:30] <yoof> !c++
[19:30] <histo> rsvp: there is also canonical-census package that pings ubuntu telling it i am alive on oem machines
[19:30] <jpds> rsvp: Nonsense, read the source, and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/03/ubuntu-1204-will-bring-os-level-privacy-options
[19:30] <gordonjcp> apparle: you'll need the appropriate settings from your sysadmin
[19:30] <W4sp> luftikuss: Grand. I can see that you're on a path to endeavour the Ubuntu distro. Do you have any 'system' or 'process' you follow?
[19:31] <mongo> I"m trying to track down where flashplugin-installer was borked for proxy users and I am not seeing where it actually downloads the file in the rules file, is it using some dh fuction for this download now?
[19:31] <apparle> gordonjcp: won't the pcf file be enough?
[19:31] <gordonjcp> apparle: no idea what that is
[19:31] <Zeptis> excuse me, all: anyone know the name of the default keyboard daemon? I gutted ubuntu last night and I'm adding stuff I actually want manually, but the keyboard support for Asus hotkeys is nice.
[19:32] <JohnHirbour> I'm trying to do "do-release-upgrade" from 11.10 to 12.4 LTS…. I have the mysql-server packaged installed… but the upgrade wants to remove it… is there anyway to fix that?
[19:32] <daviddoria> Can anyone suggest an image viewer similar to geeqie? I like some of its features (that gwenview doesn't have), but I was just looking to experiment with a couple of other before choosing one to use
[19:32] <W4sp> Zeptis: syndaemon...?
[19:32] <Zeptis> thanks, W4sp
[19:32] <apparle> gordonjcp: I think it's the file which contains all the settings for vpn
[19:32] <nomike> hi
[19:33] <Zeptis> hi nomike
[19:33] <W4sp> Zeptis: Please not that it is X11 related.
[19:33] <W4sp> s/not/note
[19:33] <gordonjcp> apparle: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-11-10.html <- that might get you started
[19:33] <W4sp> Zeptis: Please note that it is X11 related.
[19:33] <nomike> If I manually add entries to "/etc/hosts" they vanish on every reboot. Where do I have to add those entries to make them permanent?
[19:33] <Zeptis> excuse me, W4sp?
[19:34] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Q: I have a CD which always gets rejected. What can I do? Ubuntu 12.04, 64Bit
[19:34] <Multbrelch> I need to read it
[19:34] <luftikuss> W4sp: If you refer to the method that I am using to delve deeper in Ubuntu: I am primarily interested in applications. Before Unity appeared I was fond of testing Ubuntu Beta software and reporting any bugs I encountered. Just now I am trying to find out all about a NAS server which has an embedded Linux onboard.
[19:34] <W4sp> Zeptis: sysndaemon, it is X11 related. It does not come to play until X11 starts.
[19:34] <apparle> gordonjcp: already gone through all that, actually I'm looking for someone who knows cisco vpn, so that he can tell me whether I need certificate files or not
[19:35] <Multbrelch> Is there a log file which comments this problem of an unreadable CD?
[19:35] <theschwartz> Anyone know the hotkeys for sending windows to a specified side (left or right) of the screen so that it splits nicely in the middle?  I think it windows it was the windows key+left or right arrow, but that doesn't work in Ubuntu
[19:35] <W4sp> luftikuss: Ah, I see. That's great. :-)
[19:35] <rsvp> jpds, if the upside is neglible for the user, and the potential downside huge -- why tag along?? Let the user voluntarily install whoopsie -- don't force it down, esp to server editions -- BTW whoopsie can eat 80% of a CPU core if you are not paying attention -- absolutely no reason for that.
[19:35] <Zeptis> okay, thank you W4sp. I sort of trashed lightdm and unity, as well as most of ubuntu's stuff, so I don't have a config past ~/xinitrc
[19:35] <WHAT_UP> what's the correct place to put the ampersand if i want to do something like "echo hi > /dev/null &" ?
[19:35] <luftikuss> W4sp: So thank you again for your help. I appreciated it.
[19:35] <Zeptis> making my ubuntu skinny
[19:36] <pale3> hm
[19:36] <teclo-> hi, will Ubuntu 12.04 LTS boot on a machine with 512MB RAM ?
[19:36] <W4sp> Zeptis: Did you replace lightdm with xdm?>
[19:36] <histo> WHAT_UP: that will background it
[19:36] <yoof> my windows 7 x64 windows folder is 29 GB, and im lovin it
[19:36] <Zeptis> W4sp: no dm, just openbox
[19:36] <Multbrelch> Any idea with respect to my ejected CD?
[19:36] <histo> WHAT_UP: if you want to echo hi > /dev/null && some other command    that will execute the first command and then the second when the first is complete
[19:36] <Zeptis> multbrelch: what's the md5 checksum?
[19:37] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: use it as a coaster?
[19:37] <W4sp> Zeptis: OK, cool. It's a good way to start X.
[19:37] <Multbrelch> checksum? I cant read the CD ...
[19:37] <histo> yoof: do you have a ubuntu question?
[19:37] <Multbrelch> coaster? gordonjcp
[19:37] <histo> teclo-: yes
[19:37] <WHAT_UP> histo: hmm. my issue is when i try using it in a for loop. how do i background something in a for loop?
[19:38] <yoof> histo, how come your text is in red?
[19:38] <Multbrelch> Zeptis, and gordonjcp : when I insert the CD it gets immediately rejected
[19:38] <gordonjcp> WHAT_UP: you probably want to ask that in a programming channel
[19:38] <histo> yoof: probably becuase I hilighted your name
[19:38] <Multbrelch> I hope the CD is not dead! :)
[19:38] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: what is it?
[19:38] <WHAT_UP> gordonjcp: which one? #bash?
[19:38] <ThinkT510> yoof: thats a highlight because he mentioned your nick
[19:38] <W4sp> !rules | yoof
[19:38] <Zeptis> Multbrelch: if can't read the CD at all means it has no usable filetable, no?
[19:38] <Zeptis> he's dead Jim
[19:38] <gordonjcp> WHAT_UP: if you're doing bash programming, yes
[19:38] <gordonjcp> WHAT_UP: What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:38] <yoof> so how can i send red texts to other members?
[19:39] <Zeptis> just type their nick in the message, Yoof
[19:39] <Multbrelch> Zeptis, well I dont know. gordonjcp the CD was burned in 1999
[19:39] <Multbrelch> :)
[19:39] <histo> yoof: if someone mentions your name in their text, your client is most likely hilighting the text as red
[19:39] <Zeptis> but the highlighting will change depending on client.
[19:39] <yoof> is it working Zeptis?
[19:39] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: it may have deteriorated beyond the point where it will read
[19:39] <Zeptis> yep.
[19:39] <WHAT_UP> gordonjcp: run the same command 100 times in parallel to stress test something
[19:39] <Multbrelch> hmm, so no good news?
[19:39] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: do you know what's supposed to be on it?
[19:39] <histo> !who | yoof read this
[19:39] <Zeptis> I'm sorry for your loss, Multbrelch
[19:39] <gordonjcp> WHAT_UP: stick an & after it?
[19:40] <yoof> !tab
[19:40] <WHAT_UP> gordonjcp: after what?
[19:40] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, yes ... well I gonna get it from the inetrnet again
[19:40] <gordonjcp> WHAT_UP: whatever the command is
[19:40] <Multbrelch> Zeptis, :) hmmm
[19:40] <yoof> !tab hello
[19:40] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: oh, you can just redownload whatever it was?
[19:40] <histo> !tab | yoof
[19:40] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, yep ... but from the CD it is more 'easy'
[19:40] <yoof> !tab | yoof
[19:40] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: in 1999 people used all sorts of weirdass formats and copy protection on CD, so it could be that too
[19:40] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: heh, I don't even know where I'd find a CD drive these days
[19:41] <histo> !botabuse > yoof
[19:41] <gordonjcp> can you still buy them?
[19:41] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, ans Zeptis: there is some old SUN Solaris stuff on it
[19:41] <Zeptis> Multbrelch: and it was in CDFS, no?
[19:41] <Multbrelch> okay okay, thx for your help
[19:41] <blackboxer> Zeptis, lol thats funny. That IRC log was of me under my old nickname ha ha
[19:41] <Multbrelch> CDFS ... could be
[19:41] <Multbrelch> I burned it under Windows
[19:41] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: if it actually attempts to spin up the CD, fails, and spits it out, then it may well be physically damaged
[19:42] <Zeptis> yep, CDFS.
[19:42] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, exactly this is happening
[19:42] <Multbrelch> :-(
[19:42] <histo> Multbrelch: you could try to recover the data
[19:42] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: you've played it too much and the bits have fallen off
[19:42] <histo> Multbrelch: gddrescue to image it
[19:42] <Zeptis> you might be able to find something to read the binary off of the CD verbatim, Multbrelch
[19:43] <Multbrelch> mom ... gordonjcp I used the CD only 1-2 times
[19:43] <Multbrelch> histo, sounds interesting
[19:44] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: if you can get the disk to spin up and read *at all* you can possibly dd the data off it
[19:44] <histo> Multbrelch: gordonjcp I would use ddrescue without the drive mounted.
[19:44] <histo> Multbrelch: sorry gddrescue not to be confused with ddrescue
[19:44] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, I thought about this and probably  gddrescue is doing something similar but the CD is immediately ejected
[19:45] <histo> Multbrelch: turn off auto mounting and then insert the cd to image it.
[19:45] <Multbrelch> aha
[19:45] <Multbrelch> k
[19:46] <Multbrelch> where can I tunr off auto mounting? ubuntu-tweak?
[19:46] <histo> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount true
[19:46] <histo> Multbrelch: sorry chage the end of that false
[19:46] <Zeptis> oh, Ubuntu, you're so silly.
[19:47] <histo> Multbrelch: then to re-enable send the same command with true
[19:47] <Multbrelch> histo, CD is ejected :)
[19:47] <histo> Multbrelch: So soon as you insert the cd it gets ejected?
[19:47] <JohnHirbour> any ideas about how do-release-upgrade thinks it ok to remove mysql… even thought I'm using it?
[19:47] <Multbrelch> yes
[19:47] <zeref> Zeptis: log files are pretty huge, and i've seen that some programs that do segfault, dont show up in the logs, here are the most recent ones: http://pastebin.com/1nMHANBU
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: it's just not picking up FM off the disk
[19:47] <histo> Multbrelch: the drive is bad
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: you could try another drive
[19:48] <Multbrelch> yep, I try again on a different comp
[19:48] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: if you can crawl around the second-hand shops for a quad-speed Mitsumi drive and controller, it will almost certainly read it
[19:48] <gordonjcp> *slowly*
[19:48] <Multbrelch> cu later and: THX for your kind help
[19:48] <Multbrelch> k
[19:48] <Multbrelch> ... I come back
[19:49] <Zeptis> zeref: have you tried using dpkg to reconfigure the daemons in question? (trying to cut out software error from troubleshooting)
[19:49] <blackboxer> 3 dollars and change at the pump, the cost of livens' high and goin up
[19:50] <Zeptis> Blackboxer: I use my feet because I compiled them from source XD
[19:50] <gordonjcp> blackboxer: probably better taking that to -offtopic, tbh
[19:51] <blackboxer> good thing ubuntu's free.... now were back on topic
[19:51] <Zeptis> W4sp: do you happen to know where ubu's rc for x11-based daemons are?
[19:51] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: "x11-based daemons"?
[19:51] <Zeptis> poorly worded question
[19:51] <gordonjcp> o_O
[19:51] <Zeptis> I dunno, I usually just put everything in ~/xinitrc and it works, but Ubuntu isn't that way, so I'm trying to learn how and why.
[19:52] <tiklu> ok guys I am having problem with my mouse in my acer aspire one netbook
[19:52] <Zeptis> what's the specific problem, tiklu?
[19:52] <tiklu> the trackpad is working fine but the mouse is not detecting
[19:52] <blackboxer> tiklu, dooo tell
[19:52] <Zeptis> usb 'plug and play' mouse, right?
[19:53] <tiklu> yup
[19:53] <W4sp> Zeptis: If you're looking for xdm and such.. it is in /etc/init.d linking to /lib/init/upstart-job .
[19:53] <tiklu> it use to work before
[19:53] <blackboxer> reinstall
[19:53] <Zeptis> thanks, W4sp
[19:53] <teclo-> histo: thank you. but will Ubuntu 12.04 LTS be... slow on 512MB RAM ?
[19:53] <W4sp> Zeptis: Did you not say you don't want xdm and you use startx for blackbox?
[19:53] <zeref> Zeptis: How use dpkg to reconfigure the daemons?
[19:53] <zeref> *do you
[19:54] <Troy^> teclo-: i would not suggest standard ubuntu with 512mb of ram i would suggest xubuntu or lubuntu
[19:54] <Zeptis> zeref: from a su 'dpkg-reconfigure -a'
[19:54] <teclo-> Troy^: lighter desktop manager ? indeed, good idea :)
[19:54] <gordonjcp> teclo-: yeah, either stick in another 512MB or use xubuntu
[19:54] <Troy^> teclo-:xubuntu is my choice of flavour and i run 8gb of ram
[19:55] <Zeptis> W4sp: I'm not decided on a dm, yet, so yeah, just blackbox right now
[19:55] <teclo-> I was thinking of putting 8.04 LTS instead of 12.04 LTS on that machine with 512MB... but I guess 8.04 LTS is no longer supported ?
[19:55] <gordonjcp> I'm using normal Ubuntu with Unity in 1GB
[19:55] <gordonjcp> works great, but switching to an NVidia graphics card from the crappy onboard Intel really helped
[19:55] <W4sp> Zeptis: OK, normal 'Ubuntu/debian' way is to run dpkg-reconfigure xdm. Please note that this is buggy and may not work. :-( Just saying.
[19:56] <Multbrelch> Zeptis, gordonjcp and histo : Other computer leads to no other result (Ubuntu and Windows) <= I will try tomorrow on a 3rd computer ... THX for your kind help
[19:56] <Multbrelch> cu
[19:56] <Zeptis> peace Mult
[19:56] <Zeptis> best of luck
[19:56] <Gup> Hi all,  having this exact problem http://noldgxpert.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/no-init-found-try-passing-initbootarg.html and I'm sure the fsck solution works but we dont have a CD to boot from.  Anyone know how to fix this from the busybox initramfs prompt?
[19:56] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: same results?
[19:56] <Multbrelch> :) thx
[19:56] <Multbrelch> same
[19:56] <homecable> any one use linux on an asus 1025c n2600 ?
[19:56] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: silly question, have you tried cleaning the CD carefully?
[19:56] <gordonjcp> !ask | homecable
[19:56] <Zeptis> I'm on asus n50vm1, homecable
[19:56] <Multbrelch> exactly, the othe ubuntu was a bit 'thinking' but then the CD got ejected
[19:56] <Zeptis> simliar I would think
[19:56] <roothorick> Win7 machine <-- Direct --> Debian Server <-- OpenVPN --> Ubuntu laptop. The laptop and Win7 machine can ping each other, both ways, no problem, but TCP connections never actually connect. What gives? Does Ubuntu have some firewall enabled by default that doesn't use iptables?
[19:57] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, I did
[19:57] <homecable> what video card ?
[19:57] <Multbrelch> a couple of times
[19:57] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: fair enough
[19:57] <Troy^> teclo-: well i wouldn't suggest an older version xubuntu 12.04 would be fine
[19:57] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: I've had some success getting scratched CDs back with acrylic polish for cleaning aircraft canopies
[19:57] <Zeptis> homecable: I have a nVidia 8650m GT
[19:57] <zeref> Zeptis: k, ran it, will let you know how it turns out. Thanks.
[19:57] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: ... yes, really ;-)
[19:57] <Zeptis> okay, Zeref, please keep us posted
[19:58] <Zeptis> >>xdm is not installed
[19:58] <roothorick> heh. Never EVER store ANYTHING important on optical media
[19:58] <tiklu> ok any help on my mouse problem :(
[19:58] <Zeptis> it was the 90s roothorick
[19:59] <roothorick> fair enough, though it still was a very bad idea, we didn't really realize it yet
[19:59] <Zeptis> tiklu: sorry, so the usb mouse isn't working any more, but is it working on any other computer?
[19:59] <tiklu> yep
[19:59] <Zeptis> okay, cool, no hardware problems
[19:59] <tiklu> :)
[20:00] <tiklu> actually i prefer using mouse over trackpad
[20:00] <tiklu> so if there is a way to make it again work
[20:00] <tiklu> that would be great
[20:00] <Zeptis> hmm
[20:01] <Zeptis> one moment, looking up the name of ubu's usb daemon
[20:01] <tiklu> ok
[20:01] <blackboxer> I disapprove of what you say, But I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
[20:01] <Zeptis> you have other usb devices working just fine, no?
[20:01] <teclo-> Voltaire
[20:02] <crawler> tiklu: have you tried your mouse on another computer/os?
[20:02] <tiklu> yes usb disk is working fine
[20:02] <tiklu> yes and it is working
[20:02] <Zeptis> crawler: it is working on another computer
[20:02] <Zeptis> tiklu: are other usb devices working?
[20:02] <vn> hi, I upgraded a Lucid box to precise (12.04.1) recently, but my system switched to chinese, I'm looking in locale config files...all en_CA like it should, but if I type locale, LANG and LANGAGE = zh_CN, how can I get rid of these chinese configs?
[20:03] <tiklu> yesw
[20:03] <tiklu> yes
[20:04] <tiklu> my other usb devices are working in the laptop
[20:04] <tiklu> only the mouse is giving trouble
[20:04] <crawler> do you have any other mouse to try it on laptop?
[20:05] <tiklu> let me find
[20:05] <tiklu> wait a sec
[20:05] <crawler> k
[20:05] <Zeptis> tiklu: does your mouse show up in /dev/input ?
[20:06] <tiklu> aha cool
[20:06] <tiklu> it is working
[20:06] <caution> which config file sets whether a user has interactive login?
[20:06] <tiklu> i mean the other mouse
[20:06] <Zeptis> tiklu: that's cool. Is the one with problems odd in any way?
[20:07] <tiklu> no i tried another mouse
[20:07] <crawler> probably some wierd mouse hardware problem....
[20:07] <Zeptis> I know, and I'm glad it's working
[20:07] <tiklu> it seems the problem is with the mouse
[20:07] <tiklu> thanks guys
[20:07] <tiklu> :)
[20:07] <crawler> np, anytime ;)
[20:07] <Zeptis> tiklu: it might be the xorg mouse driver, but if you're happy, I'm happy
[20:07] <tiklu> :D
[20:08] <tiklu> I m pretty much happy :)
[20:08] <Zeptis> word up, then
[20:08] <Zeptis> that is weird, though
[20:08] <tiklu> yep
[20:08] <blackboxer> werd
[20:09] <tiklu> the one i had is a hp mouse for laptops
[20:09] <Zeptis> vn: are you still looking to uninstall the zh_ lang files?
[20:09] <tiklu> the one that is working is a quantum mouse for desktop
[20:09] <Munchor> Does Ubuntu come with ANY proprietary software package? 1 at all????
[20:09] <tiklu> the hp one is not working
[20:09] <tiklu> yup they does
[20:09] <Munchor> tiklu, damn
[20:09] <Munchor> thanks
[20:09] <Zeptis> Munchlor: there is an option for flash support and GPU support
[20:10] <Zeptis> but it's optional
[20:10] <tiklu> i think they have a lot of propietory driver/codec
[20:10] <Munchor> Zeptis, oh then it doesn't?
[20:10] <tiklu> yeah
[20:10] <tiklu> it is
[20:10] <Zeptis> you can run a completely GPL standard ubuntu, but it's an install option.
[20:10] <Munchor> I see Zeptis
[20:10] <Munchor> Thank you guys
[20:10] <Zeptis> you're welcome
[20:10] <tiklu> and they also say that before doing an install
[20:10] <Zeptis> lol
[20:10] <vn> Zeptis: yes
[20:11] <Zeptis> have you gone to Systemsettings yet?
[20:11] <tiklu> :)
[20:11] <vn> Zeptis: I'm in console
[20:11] <Zeptis> oh, okay then. No x11?
[20:11] <vn> (remote, over ssh)
[20:11] <Zeptis> got it
[20:11] <Zeptis> looking for that then
[20:14] <Zeptis> sudo apt-get remove language-pack-zh language-support-zh, this should work, vn.
[20:14] <vn> Zeptis: Virtual packages like 'language-pack-zh' can't be removed
[20:15] <vn> and I don't have support installed
[20:15] <vn> Zeptis: it seems like its a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/993968
[20:15] <Zeptis> what specifically do you want to remove, then?
[20:15] <vn> anything chinese
[20:15] <vn> I want my system in english
[20:16] <Zeptis> vn: so it's locale is set to zh_CN right now?
[20:17] <raido> Ok, my MOTD stated there is Maverick available... do-release-upgrade says no upgrade available, update-manager is set to show LTS only. Im on 10.04.4 and want 12.04.1. Someting is really wonked up here.
[20:17] <steveccc> can anyone tell me why i would be able to download a file on a website via a browser but wget says permission denied
[20:17] <vn> Zeptis: all the LC_ are en_CA, but LANG and LANGUAGE are zh_CN,en-CA
[20:17] <Zeptis> vn: do you have links to view webpages from console?
[20:17] <vn> Zeptis: yea
[20:17] <Zeptis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/152668/i-cannot-set-my-system-back-to-english-from-chinese-language
[20:17] <vn> lynx
[20:17] <bekks> steveccc: Because of a cookie, e.g.
[20:17] <Zeptis> maybe try that, vn.
[20:17] <raido> steveccc: could be a php or java script running on the website to give you the file
[20:18] <steveccc> raido: could that be the case even if the extension wasnt php for example .wmv
[20:19] <Zeptis> steveccc: what fileserver, if you don't mind me asking?
[20:19] <raido> steveccc: in you hover ovet the link on the web page and you dont see the source as being ...wmv, but you get a wmv from that link, then wget wont work
[20:19] <steveccc> zeptis: i am not sure i have been sent a link but wanted to setup a cron job to do wget overnight but i am getting an error
[20:20] <steveccc> raido: the link is .wmv and the resulting file is .wmv
[20:20] <Zeptis> does the server require a captcha?
[20:20] <steveccc> zeptis: was that directed at me?
[20:20] <Zeptis> yes, steveccc, sorry.
[20:21] <steveccc> zeptis: no capture - its just a standard ahref link and hence i thought if I can do save link as in a browser successfully that wget would work fine but it doesnt
[20:21] <vn> Zeptis: that did it, however LANG and LANGUAGE are still zh_CN...weird
[20:21] <raido> steveccc: paste the link here
[20:22] <Zeptis> vn:  gksudo nano /etc/default/locale, then?
[20:23] <Zeptis> *sudo
[20:23] <Zeptis> derp
[20:23] <crf> s
[20:23] <vn> Zeptis: LANG="en_CA.UTF-8"
[20:23] <vn> LANGUAGE="en_CA:en"
[20:24] <Zeptis> change it to en_US or en_GB
[20:24] <Zeptis> vn: last message was for you, excuse me
[20:25] <nine10eleven> hi guys. i suspect htacess isn't working - mod rewrite is enabled. but it's just not happening. any help?
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> increase logging nine10eleven
[20:26] <kapz> hi my ubuntu install has problem. I put my laptop to sleep when power goes but it automatically  starts when the power comes. How do I stoip that behavior?
[20:26] <Zeptis> vn: might also want to change encoding from UTF8 (unicode)
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> is the rewrite rule in a htaccess file and do you allow overrides from the top?
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> @ nine10eleven
[20:26] <vn> Zeptis: to what
[20:26] <Zeptis> just en_us with no .anything
[20:27] <Zeptis> vn: ACSII is en_US with no .UTF
[20:27] <markit> anyone has bonding work with 12.04? I've set it up but the traffic is almost agonizing
[20:27] <nine10eleven> @SolarisBoy i can answer one of those questions. it's in a file.
[20:27] <SolarisBoy> markit: what mode of bonding?
[20:27] <nine10eleven> @Sola
[20:27] <thufir_> I have apache2 running fine, but want to configure this:  http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html  pardon, what do I edit?
[20:27] <vn> Zeptis: ummmm you said UTF8, but actually its UTF-8, does it matter?
[20:27] <nine10eleven> @SolarisBoy this is a new ubuntu install..
[20:28] <SolarisBoy> nine10eleven: do you have AllowOverride set to none anywhere , and have you checked the logs?
[20:28] <Zeptis> it does, my mistake; however, just delete it where present, so it's just "en_US" or "en_%location%"
[20:28] <markit> I've tried -rr that worked fine with 11.04, then also balance-alb
[20:28] <vn> ok
[20:29] <markit> SolarisBoy: but in both cases does not work fine, I'm clueless
[20:29] <nine10eleven> @SolarisBoy where should i be looking specifically?
[20:29] <markit> SolarisBoy:  I would prefer use a mode that does not need switch support
[20:29] <SolarisBoy> markit: please explain not working fine also what info is present in /proc/net/bonding/* ?
[20:29] <SolarisBoy> markit: should prefer mode you require i suppose but OK
[20:30] <vn> Zeptis: it seems to indicate they aren't installed
[20:30] <Zeptis> thufir_: #httpd would be much more knowledgable about apache
[20:30] <markit> SolarisBoy: not working is: is slow like  hell! also ping is slow, and with tcpdump I see that packets are sent twice from the client to the server that has bonding, that puzzles me
[20:31] <thufir_> Zeptis: I'm following directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman    and they don't work, though. at least not for me.
[20:31] <SolarisBoy> markit: have you checked the file in /proc/net/bonding/* and then also checked EACH interface in the bond?
[20:31] <markit> SolarisBoy: let me reboot the server to have  a clean situation
[20:31] <SolarisBoy> as far as speed/duplex etc...
[20:31] <Thunderb0lT> I use deluge-gtk version Deluge 1.3.5. Sometimes it gives Error in entire torrents saying : No incoming connetions. So I need to restart computer or force quit and deluge several times to make it work. How to solve this problem?
[20:32] <markit> SolarisBoy: you mean check with mii-tols or something like that?
[20:32] <Thunderb0lT> I use deluge-gtk version Deluge 1.3.5. Sometimes it gives Error in entire torrents saying : No incoming connetions. So I need to restart computer or force quit and deluge several times to make it work. How to solve this problem?
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> if you must markit
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> ethtool is not deprecated agaik
[20:32] <Thunderb0lT> Please respond quickly if you know the solution. (sorry for primitive english by the way)
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> *afaik
[20:33] <SolarisBoy> Thunderb0lT: that doesn't sound like a real issue concerning your s/w
[20:33] <ginger> hi
[20:33] <Zeptis> thufir_: I really hope you get the help you need, but there is an #apache room, and they would know more about that specifically. Just saying.
[20:33] <Zeptis> hello ginger
[20:33] <thufir_> Zeptis: ok.
[20:33] <markit> SolarisBoy: while I wait for the system to come up, I've connected the interfaces to a 100Mb/s switch instead of the gbit one, just in case... and in /proc/net/bonding/bond0 I see one is at 100Mbs, the other at 1000!
[20:33] <SolarisBoy> it sounds like something on your network or somethng pertaining you being throttled or even something concerning the torrent being dl'd
[20:33] <ginger> what's up?
[20:33] <thufir_> Zeptis: thx
[20:33] <SolarisBoy> markit: heh
[20:34] <Joe1> hey
[20:34] <Zeptis> vn: sudo nano ~/.pam_enviroment << does this work?
[20:34] <SolarisBoy> markit: are they not the same speed devices or has the autonegotiation gone all wrong?
[20:34] <Joe1> my clock is in like 24 hour time format how do i switch it back right now its set to %R
[20:34] <Joe1> which would be normal clock setting to put in there
[20:34] <_Trullo> 24 hour timeformat is normal and should be used
[20:35] <ginger> can u changed the subject please?
[20:35] <Joe1> maybe i have it wrong then i thought thats what its called
[20:35] <|Anthony|> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-session-management
[20:35] <markit> SolarisBoy: in udev rules I rename eth0 with eth1, so I've eth1 and eth2 in the bound, and they are the same nic brand/model
[20:35] <vn> Zeptis: this files doesn't exist
[20:35] <Thunderb0lT> But it works after a while. I use 3G mobile broadband. Network works normal, but i dunno the hell is deluge wanting from me !!
[20:35] <vn> -s
[20:35] <Joe1> u know when it says its 16:35pm instead of  4:35
[20:35] <SolarisBoy> why should you not use 12 hour format?
[20:35] <Zeptis> Joe1: %p
[20:35] <markit> SolarisBoy: do you prefer me connect them to the gbit switch?
[20:35] <kapz>  hi my ubuntu install has this problem, I put my laptop to sleep when power goes off but it automatically  starts when the power comes back, which I don't want to happen. How do I change it? thanks
[20:35] <_Trullo> it should be 16:35
[20:35] <SolarisBoy> markit: no
[20:35] <_Trullo> the 12 hour format is retarded
[20:35] <SolarisBoy> markit: you need to check the card and the switch
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> _Trullo: oh thanks for your opinion
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> does that invalidate it as a valid option?
[20:36] <markit> SolarisBoy: the 100mbs switch is a dumb one, nothing to check except cabling
[20:36] <_Trullo> SolarisBoy, np
[20:36] <|Anthony|> anyone have further info on this? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-session-management
[20:36] <Zeptis> _Trullo: true, but even depreciated packages are worth keeping until people trash their legacy devices XD
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> markit: you can check the ethtool and see what the advertised speed was..
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> or something i guess
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> who knows are they both 1GB cards markit ?
[20:36] <Thunderb0lT> Please respond quickly if you know the solution
[20:37] <vn> Zeptis: aaaaah gotcha...I was as root, not the user...now, how to refresh the locales...
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> Thunderb0lT: you need to provide some more info
[20:37] <markit> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> markit: ok thats one..
[20:37] <Zeptis> vn: lol, now do what I just got you through in nano again, I guess.
[20:38] <markit> SolarisBoy: 3 cards of the same brand/model, MB included (I've 2 with rev 03 and one rev 06, but the info are the same)
[20:38] <Thunderb0lT> I repeat again I use latest version of deluge-gtk. Torrents force error when I start computer sometimes. says No incoming connections
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> markit: then you have some other issue at hand
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> markit: try to use ethtool to hard set the card to 1000M
[20:38] <markit> SolarisBoy: ehm the swithc is at 100mbs
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> oh so yea..
[20:38] <markit> SolarisBoy: or do you want me to change switch?
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> then you will be bottlenecked to the slowest link any way
[20:39] <markit> SolarisBoy: when I say slow, I mean .. 6kb/s not 100mbs
[20:39] <vn> Zeptis: I noticed the zh_CN, which I removed.
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> its not like you would ever get 100mbs markit
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> although 6/k  is slow but
[20:39] <markit> SolarisBoy: no problem, but at least as far as a single card wourl be ok
[20:40] <Zeptis> vn: does ~/.pam_environment
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> markit: speaking of single cards - did you break the bond and try each one seperate?
[20:40] <markit> SolarisBoy: as I told, similar setup on 11.04 did not show that problem, was "just working"
[20:40] <markit> SolarisBoy: no
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> thats what i would do
[20:40] <Thunderb0lT> Why don't you respond damn this is a free. what should I expect more than this?..
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> Thunderb0lT: no one cares about your torrent woes
[20:41]  * Thunderb0lT slaps SolarisBoy with  a giant fishbot.
[20:41] <melkor> What is the proper way to remove old kernels?
[20:41] <SolarisBoy> markit: have you checked the file yet /proc/net/bonding/* and see your bond there and it's status?
[20:41] <markit> SolarisBoy: now cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0  and ethtools eth1 and eth2 all agree to 100mbs
[20:42] <opieng> need to install ubuntu on my wifes laptop... finally getting rid of the windows for her! Her HDD is partitioned, can the Ubuntu install handle formatting the whole HDD and getting of Windows during the install?
[20:42] <vn> Zeptis: yes, no more zh_CN in it.
[20:42] <markit> Bonding Mode: load balancing (round-robin)
[20:42] <markit> MII Status: up
[20:42] <markit> not let's try to ping it
[20:42] <Guddu> Is there a Remote Desktop like solution for Ubuntu?
[20:42] <bekks> markit: Try using active-passive.
[20:42] <Zeptis> okay, just as one last check, as regular user ($) let's have a look at 'locale'
[20:42] <Guddu> TO basically log in from a remote windows based machine?
[20:42] <melkor> opieng: most likely, I think there is a chance during install to setup partitions.
[20:42] <bekks> markit: Most dumb switches cant cope with round-robin.
[20:43] <pophorea> hello
[20:43] <markit> bekks: I've tried also balance-alb but only 4 pings worked then
[20:43] <Thunderb0lT> opieng: yes it can. there is a partitioning tool that enables you purge current OS and replace with Ubuntu. pretty easy!
[20:43] <Zeptis> Guddu: that's called an SSH, and there are many GPL ones, so look for one that also allows for Windows RPC support.
[20:43] <bekks> markit: Then try a single card.
[20:44] <markit> SolarisBoy: now pings seem to work fine, not "double" packets (not DUP, I mean packet sent twice)
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> ++
[20:44] <Crawly> SolarisBoy: Error: "+" is not a valid command.
[20:44] <melkor> syanptic used to be adequate for getting rid of old kernels but it is impossible with the new software center.
[20:44] <Zeptis> Guddu: Windows Remote procedure call
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> markit: yeps
[20:44] <markit> let's test speed
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> when your on one card right?
[20:44] <Guddu> Zeptis, SSH allows for Graphical Access? Or only command prompt?
[20:44] <bekks> Guddu: Both.
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> ssh allows graphical access
[20:44] <bekks> Guddu: ssh can forward X, too.
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> -X forward X
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> you can tunnel VNC protocols over ssh as well
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> if your a nut
[20:45] <opieng> Thunderb0lT, but can it format both current partions of the drive too?
[20:45] <Zeptis> Guddu: TeamViewer is available on both systems, and I used it in high school to mess with teachers.
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> ew
[20:45] <markit> SolarisBoy: ok, fast like hell... but I've not touched any config... do I have to relay on LUCK? :)
[20:45] <Thunderb0lT> opieng: you mean C: and D: partitions? yes it can!
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> markit: did you break the bond or not?
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> are you using bonded int or standard int?
[20:45] <Zeptis> melkor: sudo apt-get synaptic
[20:45] <Zeptis> it still exists
[20:45] <Zeptis> it's just not standard
[20:46] <Guddu> Zeptis, Teamviewer is a good tool..I wanted something that does not disturb the user already hooke to and using the PC
[20:46] <markit> SolarisBoy: not broken yet, the bond works now but don't know why... it happend this afternoon
[20:46] <melkor> Zeptis: sure, I thought there might be another way since there are so many kernels that build up.
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> its call vnc
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> markit: hmm weird
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> markit: i'd look at arp and stuff it's intermittent it's really not working
[20:46] <Zeptis> Guddu: then you want to find a GPL SSH program that has a Windows RPC feature
[20:47] <opieng> ah ok, so no need to format from the BIOS before installing Ubuntu? Which is the recommended method (1) Install ubuntu from no OS or (2) install ubuntu by overwriting windows?
[20:47] <markit> SolarisBoy: after some hours of troubleshooting in vain, it worked... I thought that was "slave none" since worked after I changed it with bond-slave none
[20:47] <Guddu> Thanks Zeptis Will look at this now.
[20:47] <Zeptis> you're welcome, Guddu
[20:47] <bekks> opieng: Both ways work fine. There is no difference.
[20:47] <markit> SolarisBoy: I'm not a guru... "I'll look at arp" means...? what sort of arp problem should I find?
[20:47] <CharlieSu> Is it possible for me to install 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.5 from Ubuntu 10.10 onto a 12.04 server?  I ask because there is a show-stopper bug that hasn't been fixed yet in 12.04  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/967410
[20:47] <Eenvincible> I am brand new to Ubuntu
[20:48] <SolarisBoy> no clue markit but AFAIK in order to do this LB that mode is doing its relying on ARP
[20:48] <SolarisBoy> so arp -an and see if you see anything odd at time of issues
[20:48] <vn> Zeptis: its still stuck on zh_CN and en_CA, but there's no chinese anywhere now
[20:48] <opieng> ok thanks
[20:48] <Zeptis> vn: I would boot into GUI and remove from system settings, then
[20:48] <Eenvincible> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a an Oracle Virtual Machine
[20:49] <Eenvincible> anyone out there who can give advice?
[20:49] <bekks> CharlieSu: A workaround is mentioned in comment #37.
[20:49] <vn> Zeptis: ok will do when I'll be on GUI, thanks.
[20:49] <SolarisBoy> Eenvincible: its pretty simple - having issues?
[20:49] <CharlieSu> bekks: doesn't work.. I've tried all of them
[20:49] <Zeptis> markit: ARP = advanced routing protocol, commonly used alongside DHCP
[20:49] <SolarisBoy> Eenvincible: boot up the VM with an ubuntu iso selected
[20:49] <markit> SolarisBoy: is a LTSP server... do you think that balance-alb is better than -rr? I can try it and see if works after I've done some more test with -rr
 I just started but didnt know if I might have any problems with my windows
[20:49] <Thunderb0lT> opieng: hey I got an amazing manual partitioning guide to you : http://bit.ly/MWiLjv
[20:50] <Eenvincible> I have never used Ubuntu before that is why I came here for tips and tricks
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> Zeptis: thats not what arp stands for
[20:50] <CharlieSu> bekks: it isn't that I can't add the printer..  If you look at #3 you can see that we can add the printer but when it tries to finish adding the printer it barfs after selecting the driver..
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> it means address resolution protocol
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> and it's completely seperate from DHCP
[20:51] <SolarisBoy> or anything else for that matter
[20:51] <opieng> I am not clear on the USB Installer file options to download. I am after 12.04 32 bit ubunutu, which one do I pick? (1) Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop, (2) Ubuntu 12.04 DVD, (3) Ubuntu 12.04 Alternate i386 ??
[20:51] <SolarisBoy> arp binds macs to ip's between OSI layer 2-3
[20:51] <bekks> opieng: Normally, (1).
[20:51] <Zeptis> thanks Solaris, it's been awhile since I've been in a IP class
[20:52] <SolarisBoy> np Zeptis
[20:52] <crawler> Eenvincible: Oracle VM is same as in win on ubuntu
[20:52] <grendal_prime> i cannot for the life of me get brasero to burn a dvd disk.
[20:52] <melkor> grendal_prime: what happens?
[20:52] <Zeptis> does it return an error, grendal_prime?
[20:53] <grendal_prime> it just gets to 3 mb of "converting video file to Mpeg2  then it freeses
[20:53] <SolarisBoy> try to run it from a terminal
[20:53] <melkor> grendal_prime: is it ruining the dvds when you do it?
[20:53] <Zeptis> do you want it in mpeg2?
[20:53] <Zeptis> *grendal
[20:53] <grendal_prime> Zeptis, i want it to play in a standard dvd player
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> grendal_prime: what type of file is it initially?
[20:54] <grendal_prime> its  a photo compilation that was put into avi format...
[20:54] <opieng> ok thanks
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> cool
[20:54] <Zeptis> you could try converting it before hand with another program, then burning it from there
[20:54] <markit> SolarisBoy: well, thanks a lot for your tips :)
[20:54] <WeThePeople>  is there a program that can record my desktop in HD
[20:54] <grendal_prime> SolarisB1y, i am running it from a term..it does not throw and error
[20:54] <SolarisBoy>  ffmpeg -i film.avi -aspect 4:3 -target pal-dvd dvd.mpg
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> grendal_prime: ^
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> try that
[20:55] <opieng> is "ubuntu 12.04 desktop" a 32 bit version?
[20:55] <SolarisBoy> replace values accordingly and such
[20:55] <grendal_prime> SolarisB1y, the problem is there are 5 of them and i want them in like chapters
[20:55] <SolarisBoy> grendal_prime: do it for each one then
[20:55] <Thunderb0lT> I use deluge-gtk version Deluge 1.3.5. Sometimes it gives Error in entire torrents saying : No incoming connetions. So I need to restart computer or force quit and deluge several times to make it work. WHat should I do?
[20:55] <SolarisBoy> and if you need chapters and complex things you can do that also
[20:57] <auronandace> opieng: there are 32 and 64bit available
[20:57] <Zeptis> opieng: if you want to use the 32bit version, please select the x86 ISO
[20:58] <opieng> ok thank-you
[20:58] <Zeptis> you're welcome, opieng
[20:59] <opieng> thanks for the guide Thunderb0lT
[20:59] <Thunderb0lT> No incoming connections Error in Deluge. Noone knows??
[20:59] <Thunderb0lT> opieng: ur welcome!
[21:00] <SolarisBoy> are you using upnp Thunderb0lT ?
[21:00] <Thunderb0lT> SolarisBoy: I dont know what you're talking about
[21:00] <SolarisBoy> heh
[21:00] <Zeptis> go to Deluge's settings, Thunder.
[21:00] <SolarisBoy> smh
[21:01] <grendal_prime> isnt pal euro format?
[21:01] <Thunderb0lT> SolarisBoy: listen if i was not a noob i would not be using deluge on ubuntu.
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> grendal_prime: then use the ntsc
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> if you want
[21:01] <grendal_prime> 2late
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> its a new file
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> its never to late..
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> delete and do it again..
[21:01] <grendal_prime> you should speak up BEFORE i do exactly what you say..
[21:01] <Thunderb0lT> Zeptis: go on. im in Preferences windows
[21:01] <grendal_prime> hehehe
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> whatever
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> im used to people who can think a little you know =)
[21:02] <grendal_prime> jk dude
[21:02] <grendal_prime> it ran.
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> cool
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> better?
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> can you burn it now in your app?
[21:03] <Thunderb0lT> Zeptis: so what to do with settigs?
[21:03] <Zeptis> Thunderb0lt: I dunno, what does it say you're using as a packet type?
[21:04] <grendal_prime> man that machine is running very slow now..
[21:04] <grendal_prime> liek the compositor is jammified or something
[21:05] <grendal_prime> gnome2 blows
[21:05] <grendal_prime> sorry gnome3 that is
[21:05] <Zeptis> >blaming it on gnome
[21:05] <Zeptis> oh man, can't help myself, sorry Grendal
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> jammied
[21:06] <grendal_prime> ya..does not seem to happen if i run it in gnome-classic
[21:07] <grendal_prime> just literally out of the blue starts running REAAAALY slow..screen redraws slow...cooling fan kicks on and starts heating up the room.
[21:07] <Zeptis> grendal_prime: while converting video?
[21:07] <grendal_prime> no
[21:08] <grendal_prime> well i was running brasero when it did that..but that process is not even running any more..and when i top it...
[21:08] <Thunderb0lT> Zeptis: hey look i got a screenshot of my "network" panel in deluge preferences. look it up http://bit.ly/RoN0QS
[21:08] <grendal_prime> its gnome-shell that is eating up all the proc
[21:09] <KM0201> so don't use gnome-shell... :)  Might as well embrace unity
[21:09] <Zeptis> grendaL: agreed on Gnome/Unity being too large.
[21:10] <Zeptis> I don't use a desktop manager at all, and ubuntu starts into less than 300MB of RAM
[21:10] <grendal_prime> ya i treid xubuntu over the weekend on several machines.
[21:11] <grendal_prime> it works..but by the time i get all the stuff i need for it to do what im doing im only about 50 packages shy of a gnome desktop anyway..and i get frequent crash reports from..well everything
[21:11] <KM0201> xubuntu has really lost its way, gotten way way to bloated the last couple years.
[21:13] <SolarisBoy> grendal_prime: ive been just learning to deal with this crazy crash report thing
[21:13] <Zeptis> Well, I trashed lightdm and unity yesterday; ubuntu works without it, but now X stops pipelining to openbox unexpectedly. :\
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> i think gnome is like the ubuntu brain
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> or heart
[21:14] <devish> Zeptis: are you talking about server or desktop when you say no DM
[21:14] <Zeptis> desktop
[21:14] <king_cobra> anyone know the root code to move custom pictures to the login picture directory?
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> king_cobra: your sudo password?
[21:15] <grendal_prime> ya im not really all that great with the desktop stuff thats why i was trying here.
[21:15] <grendal_prime> i dont typically need to do what im doing.
[21:15] <king_cobra> ?
[21:15] <grendal_prime> mostly i build vpn servers and routers.
[21:16] <Aknot> Can someone give me url of piratebay in which you can use the Single view option? It doesnt work on most of what ive tested
[21:16] <auronandace> !piracy | Aknot
[21:16] <grendal_prime> firewalls...there is no gui on them..i use a netbook with 10.04 desktop on it..and i have a workstation that has kvm running on it ..(just upgraded it to 1204 and have had fits with everything on it.)
[21:16] <crimsonmane> Aknot: it works for me
[21:16] <Aknot> LOL
[21:16] <Aknot> is all i will say
[21:17] <Thunderb0lT> Zeptis: did you look up the screenshot?
[21:17] <king_cobra> tryin to use sudo to move a custom background to the login screen directory .. 12.04 lts
[21:17] <Zeptis> Thunderb0lt: my X gave me the 'All your base are belong to us' error
[21:18] <Zeptis> so no, Thunderb0lt, I didn't, sorry.
[21:18] <grendal_prime> and i do like gnome classic i just dont have any idea how long it will be supported for.
[21:18] <Thunderb0lT> Zeptis: look it up now http://bit.ly/RoN0QS
[21:19] <Zeptis> try unchecking UPnP
[21:19] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[21:19] <Thunderb0lT> Zeptis what the .. is UPnP?
[21:19] <Thunderb0lT> Upload thing..?
[21:19] <king_cobra> keeps telling me the directory for the login screens is invalid.. starting to pull my hair out..
[21:19] <SolarisBoy> whats deciding what ports to open for your torrent client Thunderb0lT
[21:20] <SolarisBoy> is what upnp is
[21:20] <tprice> anything like freenas but that runs linux and not freebsd?
[21:21] <Zeptis> Thunderb0lt: you might want to disable DHT, as well, but that's a tinfoil-hat option
[21:21] <Aradian> hey i have a dns with 4 virtual domains configured on it, i noticed that everytime 1 at random will display the default sites-available/default no matter what.. and if i reload apache2, another virtual domain will display what is in default, if i disable the default (a2dismod default) it will work but i would preffer to have my default enabled
[21:21] <SolarisBoy> not that i know of tprice
[21:21] <Zeptis> Thunder: but UPnP won't work without your router also playing along
[21:21] <auronandace> tprice: ask in ##linux
[21:21] <Aradian> does any1 have had this problem ?
[21:21] <Thunderb0lT> i see it there. unchecked UPnP . no sense
[21:22] <tprice> SolarisBoy i have looked around and cant really find anything
[21:22] <tprice> auronandacei get nothing from ##linux
[21:22] <SolarisBoy> tprice: you can try nexenta
[21:22] <SolarisBoy> its not linux its solaris based...
[21:22] <auronandace> tprice: this channel is just for ubuntu support
[21:22] <gordonjcp> tprice: what's wrong with freenas?
[21:23] <SolarisBoy> other than that you can build a NaS on comodity hardware if you really wanted
[21:23] <gordonjcp> tprice: also, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <SolarisBoy> oh this is the ubuntu support channel? hadn't noticed
[21:23] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: :-p
[21:23] <tprice> kk ill move chan
[21:23] <Zeptis> #ubuntu: ZFS manager general
[21:24] <FinsUpDNC> is there no ubuntu-pirating chat?
[21:24] <SolarisBoy> lmao
[21:24] <KM0201> lol
[21:24] <Thunderb0lT> I am gonna reinstall deluge due to lack of support to cure  thanks for üasting time for me
[21:24] <CharlieSu> FinsUpDNC: what do you mean?
[21:24] <grendal_prime> is that were they talk about stealing open source software?
[21:25] <SolarisBoy> you might as well go to windows if you only solution is reboot/reinstall for everything
[21:25] <grendal_prime> cause thats at apple.com
[21:25] <SolarisBoy> heh
[21:25] <gordonjcp> grendal_prime: no, it's where you use open-source software to assist your buccaneering adventures
[21:25] <FinsUpDNC> They were having issue with torrents above and the images had torrents of dark knight etc downloading
[21:26] <CharlieSu> FinsUpDNC: mpaa.org can help..
[21:26] <FinsUpDNC> nah they will sue some grandmother that has a bunch of people stealing her wireless :)
[21:26] <king_cobra> nevermind i found it..
[21:26] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: tbh I tend to reinstall if something is borked to the point it's going to take more than 30 minutes to fix
[21:27] <SolarisBoy> heh
[21:27] <Zeptis> >>ubuntu-pirating
[21:27] <Zeptis> wtf am I reading
[21:27] <Thunderb0lT> FinsUpDNC: yah i like watching movies again and again in blueray 1080p quality
[21:27] <tprice> whats the support for ZFS on ubuntu? should i use ZFS or lvm for raid?
[21:27] <SolarisBoy> tprice: i wouldn't advise it...
[21:27] <tprice> why?
[21:27] <auronandace> !zfs | tprice
[21:27] <tprice> and what ZFS or lvm?
[21:27] <SolarisBoy> zfs is way more groovy than lvm
[21:28] <wN> says SolarisBoy
[21:28] <wN> :P
[21:28] <SolarisBoy> im afraid the linux zfs implementation needs work
[21:28] <SolarisBoy> heh
[21:28] <Thunderb0lT> SolarisBoy: do you have an experience with *BSDs?
[21:28] <SolarisBoy> yes
[21:28] <tato> alguém pode me ajudar a atualizar o meu indicador de tempo para a versão 12.7?
[21:28] <SolarisBoy> freebsd mainly - but i dont like ports so i avoid it
[21:29] <tprice> SolarisBoy i need to pool drives what about greyhole?
[21:29] <SolarisBoy> pooling drives == ZFS
[21:29] <IdleOne> !br | tato
[21:29] <SolarisBoy> i dont know about greyhole
[21:29] <gordonjcp> tato: !pt
[21:29] <tprice> i just want something that easy to use
[21:29] <gordonjcp> !pt | tato
[21:29] <SolarisBoy> you can use softraid, hard raid, lvm (depending on your OS) and zfs to pool
[21:29] <gordonjcp> o_O
[21:29] <tato> obrigado
[21:29] <Daghdha_> and inbetween soft and hard
[21:30] <gordonjcp> tato: oh well, #ubuntu-pt I tihnk
[21:30] <SolarisBoy> Daghdha_: thats what she said
[21:30] <ratcheer> LOL
[21:30] <gordonjcp> tato: or ask in English, I think you're asking about setting your clock in version 12.7 - but 12.7 of *what*?
[21:30] <tprice> SolarisBoy i like zfs but have not used it before
[21:30] <SolarisBoy> lol how did that happen?
[21:30] <Froxy> kick him
[21:31] <Zeptis> @Gordonjcp: there are a good deal of differences between pt_pt and br_pt.
[21:31] <SolarisBoy> well i like angelina joe lee and never touched her so i guess it makes sense..
[21:31] <Thunderb0lT> tato: indicador de tempo que voce usa?
[21:31] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I know
[21:31] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I also suck at both
[21:31] <Froxy> french ?
[21:31] <Zeptis> Brazilian Portuguese, Froxy.
[21:31] <Zeptis> hue~
[21:31] <Froxy> so bad
[21:31] <ratcheer> Tato is speaking Portuguese
[21:32] <IdleOne> he has already been directed to the correct channel.
[21:32] <SolarisBoy> oh cool - can he go to where people understand it at?
[21:32] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I know enough to recognise pt not es ;-)
[21:33] <SolarisBoy> i only know english and bad english
[21:33] <Meris> hehe
[21:33] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[21:34] <Zeptis> which rc loads audio in ubuntu desktop 12.04LTS by default?
[21:34] <dlynes_laptop> Zeptis, pulseaudio?
[21:35] <Zeptis> dlynes_laptop: yes, but what loads pulseaudio.
[21:35] <SolarisBoy> upstart?
[21:35] <SolarisBoy> Zeptis: ^
[21:35] <JoostA> Hi guys: did anybody try to let Skype 4 (for Linux) use another wave file for an incoming call (not the modern version but the old fashioed version). It appears to that is altogether impossible as it crashes Skype.
[21:35] <dlynes_laptop> Zeptis, I must be missing something?  /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
[21:36] <Zeptis> thanks, dlynes.
[21:36] <SolarisBoy> nope
[21:36] <SolarisBoy> Zeptis: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
[21:36] <buhman> how do I debug PAM? I want to make log messages for things that pam does appear
[21:36] <dlynes_laptop> Zeptis, you never tried looking in the /etc/init.d directory, I guess?
[21:36] <stiltzkin> I have a quick question - I asked over in #kubuntu but there doesn't seem to be much activity over there. Anyone know what the KDE equivalent of the "gnome-session" package is? Is it KDM? Thanks and sorry for asking a KDE-related question here.
[21:37] <Meris> buham, try  auth.log
[21:37] <ratcheer> stiltzkin: No, kdm is analogous to gdm or lightdm.
[21:37] <SolarisBoy> did ubuntu ever have an equivalent to chckconfig?
[21:37] <celthunder> stiltzkin: kdm is the same as gdm ....
[21:37] <SolarisBoy> chkconfig*
[21:38] <Zeptis> dlynes_laptop: does init.d have documentation?
[21:38] <SolarisBoy> despite usage of upstart i still see all services are not migrated over to upstart and probably never will be, i always had to install chkconfig out of band - do they have anything that just prints what starts when?
[21:38] <SolarisBoy> thats not a red hat port?
[21:38] <stiltzkin> ratcheer, celthunder: OK thanks, I thought so. I'm just following a tutorial and I don't know what to substitute for "gnome-session" in this script, because I don't know what KDE's session manager is.
[21:38] <mongo> SolarisBoy: chkconfig just makes sym links to the rc?.d directories
[21:39] <Meris> buham, to be precise: /var/log/auth.log*
[21:39] <krababbel> Zeptis: debian has a guide
[21:39] <mongo> SolarisBoy: for upstart services you need to modify the events
[21:39] <Zeptis> thanks krababbel
[21:39] <krababbel> Zeptis: But I think I saw an ubuntu version
[21:39] <SolarisBoy> mongo: thats not quite what i mean
[21:39] <SolarisBoy> mongo: so i get the difference, definately,,
[21:39] <SolarisBoy> mongo: my thing is that all services are not upstart
[21:39] <krababbel> Zeptis: http://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/tocsysinit.html
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> for instance, pulseaudio
[21:40] <dlynes_laptop> Zeptis, /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc
[21:40] <mongo> SolarisBoy: upstart starts legacy init jobs too
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> mongo: how would you tell what "possible" order that it would start in (without looking at the number on the link)?
[21:40] <krababbel> that should be on the front page
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> mongo: so now again my question..
[21:40] <mongo> SolarisBoy: you have to walk through, it is not well documented
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> exactly my point
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> so i have to do it manually
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> just wanted to confirm that
[21:41] <dlynes_laptop> SolarisBoy, that's because Ubuntu hasn't fully migrated over to the upstart method yet
[21:41] <SolarisBoy> rather appauling
[21:41] <Meris> I agree
[21:41] <SolarisBoy> you dont just implement new systems which over ride very old (working ones)
[21:41] <SolarisBoy> and go doc short.. haha
[21:41] <mongo> i'll hold my tounge but part of the problem is that upstart is so limited in funcationality that you can't port some to upstart
[21:41] <dlynes_laptop> SolarisBoy, however, all initscripts can still be accessed using traditional methods (/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart)
[21:42] <SolarisBoy> EXACTLY my point - which is why i KNOW that it will never be all upstart
[21:42] <ratcheer> Heh heh. systemd does that, too.
[21:42] <opieng> can I do my partitioning in ubuntu after I do the install or do I need to do it at the install stage?
[21:42] <Meris> SolarisBoy, tell that to the developer of pulseaudio :-P
[21:42] <mongo> SolarisBoy: man upstart-events will help you a lot
[21:42] <SolarisBoy> sure but that doesn't tell me when it starts or at what run level or what time they would start
[21:42] <SolarisBoy> nah im good
[21:42] <dlynes_laptop> opieng, during install, or you won't have anywhere to install to
[21:42] <SolarisBoy> mongo: im aware of those but its a tail chase
[21:42] <mongo> Meris: with no other distro going to upstart most upstream maintaniers don't care
[21:42] <SolarisBoy> then i need to find out what events start what events - i guess i can just look at /var/log/upstart times?
[21:43] <mongo> SolarisBoy: run levels dont' really exist
[21:43] <SolarisBoy> in the real world they do
[21:43] <SolarisBoy> in ubuntu world they dont
[21:43] <dlynes_laptop> mongo, they do...just not in ubuntu
[21:43] <Meris> mongo, true, but upstart has already been around sometime now.
[21:43] <SolarisBoy> if i do init 6 the run leve changes
[21:43] <SolarisBoy> indeed
[21:43] <mongo> dlynes_laptop: well i'm talking in this context
[21:43] <SolarisBoy> so they exist to me
[21:43] <Zeptis> oh cool, there's actually a readme
[21:43] <dlynes_laptop> mongo, ubuntu has some kinda weird bastardized version of run levels that's not well documented
[21:43] <mongo> Meris: yes, but there are packages, where @ubuntu.org maintaniers maintain the debian port yet they aren't migrated
[21:43] <theschwartz> Anyone know why when I'm working on a LibreOffice document, when it goes into the background (behind a firefox window or something), I can't click on the libreoffice icon to bring the document back into the foreground?
[21:43] <opieng> dlynes_laptop, but there is an option to let Ubunut delete all the current paritions and use the whole HDD for ext4
[21:44] <mongo> dlynes_laptop: yes, upstart, it is event driven
[21:44] <dlynes_laptop> opieng, correct
[21:44] <mongo> so "if alsa is started then start pulse" vs "runlevels"
[21:44] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[21:44] <dlynes_laptop> mongo, ah...so cause and effect?
[21:44] <SolarisBoy> or rather start $service when network is available - etc
[21:44] <Meris> mongo, that's potentially building on sand then. A risky approach, especially for an LTS.
[21:44] <mongo> dlynes_laptop: event driven
[21:44] <SolarisBoy> more eventish explanation
[21:45] <opieng> so my question really is, can I later on parition the further or do I need to do this at the install stage?
[21:45] <Zeptis> Is update-rc.d good, or should I do this manually?
[21:45] <Meris> mongo an => a
[21:45] <SolarisBoy> update-rc.d is good for non upstart scripts afaik
[21:45] <mongo> my issue is that if it doesn't spawn the actual app it will break
[21:45] <SolarisBoy> for upstart scripts just create a /etc/init/*conf file replacing * with service name or w/e
[21:45] <dlynes_laptop> so if the process at the bottom of the pyramid fails, then ubuntu comes tumbling after?
[21:45] <SolarisBoy> dlynes_laptop: yes
[21:45] <mongo> e.g. if you call a script that runs apps that run apps it will not function
[21:46] <dlynes_laptop> i.e. what happens when plymouth fails (which shouldn't be a dependency for anything)
[21:46] <crims0n> evening
[21:46] <SolarisBoy> i recall it breaking rc.local stuff too
[21:46] <SolarisBoy> @upstart
[21:46] <jrib> dlynes_laptop: erm, if process B depends on A and A fails then B wouldn't start
[21:46] <ratcheer> opieng: It is still better to plan your partitions before giving the whole disk to one partition.
[21:46] <mongo> jrib: although there is the "should" directive
[21:46] <`DjM4X> is there any osd (on screen display) app for gpu temp / fps in ubuntu? kinda like msi afterburn osd stuff.
[21:46] <jrib> is there an actual question regarding upstart?
[21:46] <dlynes_laptop> jrib, Yeah..I just don't get why anything has plymouth for a dependency
[21:46] <opieng> ok thanks
[21:46] <SolarisBoy> yes
[21:46] <SolarisBoy> but it was answered
[21:46] <SolarisBoy> jrib:
[21:47] <dlynes_laptop> jrib, and why the kernel has a dependency on plymouth, when no other distro has a dependency on plymouth
[21:47] <`DjM4X> !libglfps
[21:47] <mongo> ya plymouth should be a "recomend"
[21:47] <SolarisBoy> what to much complaining about upstart for #ubuntu ;>
[21:47] <dlynes_laptop> mongo, recommend not to install?
[21:47] <Sokel> dlynes_laptop: Fedora and RHEL have dependencies on it also.
[21:47] <SolarisBoy> rhel doesn't break startups..
[21:47] <Zeptis> does when using "update-rc.d <basename>" does * work as input?
[21:47] <mongo> dlynes_laptop: no, it plymoth could be a recomend but not a require
[21:47] <SolarisBoy> Zeptis: no
[21:47] <dlynes_laptop> Sokel, really?  why doesn't debian require it?
[21:47] <Meris> `DjM4X, there is, it's called xsensors.
[21:48] <`DjM4X> !xsensors
[21:48] <Sokel> SolarisBoy: Pretty typical :) Rhel is beast in that respect. Only problem is if you remove plymouth, you can't install a new kernel because removing plymouth ALSO removes dracut.
[21:48] <dlynes_laptop> And while i'm on a rant, gnome 3 sucks almost as bad as unity
[21:48] <`DjM4X> Meris are you sure it displays info even if i'm on a fullscreen app?
[21:48] <Sokel> dlynes_laptop: Does debian have a "pretty" startup like ubuntu or fedora?
[21:48] <mongo> not fixing upstart's stupidity and the refusal to use the main line kernel app armor are my big two beefs right now :)
[21:48] <dlynes_laptop> Sokel, do i care?
[21:48] <`DjM4X> also, the site says it's only for motherboard stuff not gfx
[21:48] <dlynes_laptop> Sokel, i just need my OS to start up, run and help me get my work done
[21:49] <Meris> `DjM4X, no, I'm not sure about that, might be a config. setting though.
[21:49] <dlynes_laptop> Sokel, I don't need eye candy
[21:49] <Sokel> dlynes_laptop: If you're going to be a cry baby, then install a different distribution.
[21:49] <crimsonmane> dlynes_laptop: so you want KDE from what i'm hearing
[21:49] <jrib> these discussions about upstart and such really don't seem support related, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <opieng> I have 160GB HDD, I was going to do, 80GB for \     78GB for \home     and    2GB for swap
[21:49] <dlynes_laptop> Sokel, I have, but i'm resigned to using Ubuntu at work
[21:49] <histo> dlynes_laptop: install a minimal system them.
[21:49] <`DjM4X> Meris http://freecode.com/projects/libglfps
[21:49] <opieng> does that look ok?
[21:49] <`DjM4X> seems better
[21:50] <Aethrs> My virtual desktop display and ability to switch to them seems to have disappeared suddenly.  How do I get it back?
[21:50] <ratcheer> opieng: Try 30 GB for / and save some for the future.
[21:50] <dlynes_laptop> crimsonmane, nah...KDE 3 I loved...KDE 4....meh...too much like Mac OSX, but without the functionality
[21:51] <opieng> ratcheer, so where do i allocate the other 70GB to?
[21:51] <histo> opieng: 80GB for / is rather large when you have a seperate /home
[21:51] <loneclock> hello, i was wondering how to view files on my windows partition when  booting ubuntu and to view files on linux when booting in windows
[21:51] <opieng> sorry I mean 50GB
[21:51] <ratcheer> opieng: You don't have to use it all at once.
[21:51] <opieng> whats you suggestions please?
[21:51] <yoof2> what is alternative to ms visual studio c++?
[21:51] <dlynes_laptop> loneclock, mount /path/to/windows/partition /path/to/windows/partition/mount/point -t ntfs
[21:51] <yoof2> on ubuntu
[21:51] <ratcheer> opieng: How much RAM does it have?
[21:52] <histo> loneclock: open nautilus and you will see your windows drive on the left frame in ubuntu
[21:52] <opieng> ratcheer, 1GB RAM
[21:52] <histo> loneclock: in windows you will need a program installed to browse ext4 filesystems
[21:52] <Zeptis> yoof2: g++
[21:52] <Meris> `DjM4X, look I'm no expert on these things, xsensors is general and modular in it's approach, it's basically a kind of desktop widget. The tool you point to is much more specific and displays framerates, not Temps, as far as I can see
[21:53] <histo> opieng: if you want 30GB for root put the extra 50GB on the /home  /home is where you store all your files and per application settings for your users
[21:53] <krababbel> loneclock: you need the ext2fs driver
[21:53] <ratcheer> opieng: Ok, I recommend 2.5 GB for swap, 40 GB for /, and 60 GB for /home. Save the rest for future expansion.
[21:53] <krababbel> loneclock: read support is there write not really for ext4
[21:54] <opieng> histo, ratcheer thanks, so what will Ubuntu install do with the rest of the HDD space? sorry I am new to Ubuntu and Linux
[21:54] <ratcheer> opieng: That will give you plenty of room for a long time.
[21:54] <Meris> yoof2, arre you searching for an IDE? if so there are several to choose from. Eclipse comes to mind here. It's extremely modular(even sporting commercial variants if you are so inclined) and works for lots of programming languages.
[21:55] <loneclock> histo, i think i have tried using nautilus before but for some reason it doesn't show up until i mount it
[21:55] <crims0n> So... is gtk the framework that gnome and kde are built off of? And gtk is build off of the X windows system?
[21:55] <uatever> can someone help me with ati drivers please?
[21:55] <uatever> so i dont make the same mistake again
[21:55] <Meris> crims0n, gtk has nothing to do with KDE
[21:55] <lbl> crims0n: gnome uses gtk, kde uses qt
[21:56] <crimsonmane> why you stealing my name?
[21:56] <ratcheer> opieng: It will not do anything with it. It will just be "free" on your disk. You can use it later, if you need to.
[21:56] <uatever> ?
[21:56] <lbl> crims0n: gtk is pretty much tied to X, qt not
[21:57] <Meris> crimsonmane, the color crimson is not exclusive to you, now is it? Sounds like the hubbub over the acronym NT in the 90's. Please, not again.
[21:57] <ratcheer> opieng: If you feel the necessity to use it all right now, use 4.5 GB for swap, 40 GB for /, and the rest for /home.
[21:58] <crims0n> but you can use gtk without the gnome desktop right? What I am getting at is... I have an ubuntu server without a desktop environment, however I have xming running on a windows machine and I can tunnel gui porgrams via ssh. Is it JUST using the x window system to display them?
[21:58] <uatever> should i install the drivers from ATI with catalyst or the ones that appear in additional drivers?
[21:59] <floatingfeijoa> hey, anyone know how to get os-prober to look at a particular drive?
[21:59] <lbl> crims0n: yes. the toolkits are independent of the desktops. the desktops depend on the toolkits
[21:59] <uatever> oh thats it... i must be invisible
[22:00] <Aethrs> Can someone advise me how to get my gnome classic virtual desktops back?  They disappeared totally suddenly.
[22:00] <histo> !ati | uatever
[22:01] <opieng> ok thanks, why can I not select to partion my /home drive as ntfs?
[22:01] <crims0n> thanks lbl, so when I install say... vim-gtk and tunnel it to my windows machine, its not actually using gtk just the X window system right?
[22:01] <gordonjcp> opieng: ntfs won't work for /home, it's just not suitable
[22:01] <histo> opieng: maybe they don't have fuse running in the installer.
[22:01] <ratcheer> Aethrs: That happened to me once. There was a hidden panel overlaying them on the bottom panel. I found it with my mouse pointer and dragged it off the workspaces.
[22:01] <Zeptis> Anyone know why X would send signal 11 to Openbox?
[22:02] <lbl> depends on what's running on your display. if that's plain X than it's plain X
[22:02] <crims0n> makes sense
[22:02] <opieng> so what shall I opt for, for the /home partition?
[22:02] <krababbel> opieng: ntfs has different permission system, not compatible with linux
[22:02] <histo> opieng: I would use a posix compliant fs for home.  Use ext4
[22:03] <krababbel> opieng: ext4. ext2, if you want write access from windows.
[22:03] <opieng> So ext4 for \ and \home is fine?
[22:03] <histo> opieng: yeap
[22:03] <opieng> ok thanks
[22:04] <lbl> crims0n: whatever the X client (using a toolkit or nor) does is translated in "plain X" protocol, and displayed by the X server. so whether it's using gtk or not is a client side thing
[22:04] <uatever> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[22:04] <uatever> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[22:04] <uatever> again..
[22:05] <histo> uatever: what driver were you trying to install and were did youg et it from?
[22:05] <malcolm91> hello. i have a problem with the right click function. i can't figure it out with the forums.
[22:05] <uatever> just using additional drivers
[22:05] <Zeptis> X keeps sending Openbox signal 11 and crashing, lol.
[22:05] <uatever> the ones that ubuntu asked me to install
[22:05] <histo> uatever: can you pastebin the jockey.log
[22:05] <opieng> just checking.... is type: Primary for \ and type: Logical for \home and swap the correct choices?
[22:06] <krababbel> opieng: doesn't really matter, but you can only have four primary partitions on a drive
[22:06] <gordonjcp> opieng: / and /home
[22:06] <gordonjcp> opieng: get the slashes the right way round, it's important ;-)
[22:06] <krababbel> opieng: / has to be primary I guess
[22:07] <markit> is there any official repo for newer kernel for 12.04? I've an issue with a realtek nic, wondering if is a kernel one...
[22:07] <gordonjcp> opieng: I tend to make a small /boot about 256MB ext2 on primary then /, /home and swap on extended
[22:07] <crims0n> lbl thanks, I don't think xming supports gtk on windows but that is fine with me, being lightweight is more important
[22:07] <crims0n> just was curious how it all played together
[22:07] <histo> opieng: I usally create primary partitions for / and /home and put swap on an extended/logical partition
[22:08] <histo> opieng: but it's up to you doesn't really matter
[22:08] <histo> krababbel: I don't believe / has to be primary
[22:08] <krababbel> histo: I meant /boot, yes :)
[22:08] <krababbel> but /boot is usually on /
[22:09] <histo> krababbel: /boot doesn't either as far as I know
[22:09] <WeThePeople> hi
[22:09] <krababbel> histo: thanks, wasn't sure
[22:09] <nydel> hi all
[22:10] <histo> krababbel: unless there is a bug in grub or something
[22:10] <krababbel> I guess grub does alright, I was thinking of older DOS days :)
[22:11] <Anquietas> Hello
[22:11] <krababbel> though never tested that actually I think
[22:12] <h6sidhu> for extending the user model, is it recommended to use a foreign key with unique=true?
[22:12] <uatever> histo i opened a convo with you can you check it please? if its ok
[22:12] <Anquietas> Hello, I have a small problem... I've downloaded the new KUbuntu ISO image (12.04.1) but it has 703.3 MB, my CD has only the 702.8 MB (Standard size)... what should I do ?....
[22:12] <histo> krababbel: yeah if you install grub to the mbr you should be able to have boot on extended
[22:12] <h6sidhu> woops wrong irc
[22:12] <histo> !paste | uatever
[22:13] <histo> !pm uatever
[22:13] <histo> !pm | uatever
[22:13] <histo> uatever: so you can install pastebinit and just pastebinit /var/log/jockey.log
[22:14] <W4sp> h6sidhu: Yes, thats what I would do.
[22:14] <HAMKoot> Anquietas, known problem, buy 800 mb cd+r or use a usb-flash disk
[22:14] <gordonjcp> Anquietas: indeed, just use a USB flash drive
[22:14] <Anquietas> ok, thanks guis
[22:14] <Anquietas> guys*
[22:14] <histo> Anquietas: burn to dvd or put it on usb flash
[22:15] <gordonjcp> optical media is obsolete
[22:15] <Anquietas> ok
[22:15] <histo> Anquietas: I personally just use the mini.iso and pull all the packages from online rather than burning cds over and over.
[22:15] <histo> gordonjcp: no it isn't
[22:15] <Zeptis> legacy != obsolete
[22:15] <histo> gordonjcp: blu-ray
[22:15] <gordonjcp> histo: meh, maybe for games consoles
[22:16] <histo> gordonjcp: dvd and blu-ray is going to be around for a little bit longer here.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> histo: eh, slow, limited capacity, expensive, fragile...
[22:16] <Zeptis> gordonjcp: until every BIOS boots from USB natively, it's still cool.
[22:16] <histo> gordonjcp: good luck streaming your 40GB movie with blu ray quality
[22:17] <gordonjcp> histo: I don't watch movies
[22:17] <smw_> are there any good guides on making a vm for libvirt?
[22:17] <trond-> what is the Gallium 0.4. I can see it in Details when checking graphics. I should have said Intel something though. (No 3d unity)
[22:17] <smw_> I mean producing an image with vmbuilder (or something else)
[22:18] <gordonjcp> trond-: it's an API for 3D devices
[22:18] <trond-> gordonjcp, so should not be removed then...
[22:18] <gordonjcp> trond-: not if you want your graphics to work properly ;-)
[22:18] <trond-> gordonjcp, so when it says on llvmpipe, what does that mean?
[22:19] <WeThePeople>  what is dnd2share in cairo dock?
[22:19] <trond-> gordonjcp, I kinda like to have my graphics in proper working condition :)
[22:19] <gordonjcp> trond-: I'm not certain, but I know it uses llvm to compile shader code for certain backends
[22:19] <Dr_Willis_> WeThePeople:  just my guess 'Drag and Drop 2 share'
[22:19]  * gordonjcp <- not a graphics guy
[22:19] <uatever> histo the non (post release updates) seems to install file
[22:19] <WeThePeople> duh :)
[22:19] <Dr_Willis_> I thought llvm was how Unity3d was supposed to work with 2d only cards in the next 12.10 release.
[22:19] <meme> than i make sudo-apt get install nodejs npm, will i get both packages from the ppa, or will be 1 from the ppa and another from official ubuntu repo?
[22:20] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis_: llvm is a compiler framework
[22:20] <Dr_Willis_> meme:  you will ghet what one has a newer version normally
[22:20] <trism> meme: apt-cache policy package_name; will tell you where the updated package will come from
[22:20] <meme> if i install a ppa such as https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/
[22:20] <trond-> gordonjcp, I c. Trying to be able to run unity in 3d, but that is not possible at the moment. I am getting GL_VENDOR     = VMware, Inc. which should have said Intel ...
[22:21] <meme> trism, how do icheck?command?
[22:21] <trism> meme: apt-cache policy nodejs npm; in your instance I suppose
[22:21] <gordonjcp> trond-: are you running inside a VM?
[22:21] <Dr_Willis_> OpenGL rasterizer LLVMpipe,  - is how 12.10 is getting unity 3d working on 2d video cards. ;)
[22:21] <trond-> gordonjcp, nope. On bare metal (E4310 - upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04)
[22:23] <trond-> gordonjcp, Dr_Willis : Seems as llvm is this:  The Low-Level Virtual Machine (LLVM) (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/llvm-3.0)
[22:23] <meme> great thans everyone
[22:23] <Umo> Hey all , I am trying to install ubuntu and I'm having graphic problems. When I try to install from USB I get a black screen with nothing.
[22:24] <Umo> My video card is a GTX 550 ti
[22:24] <krababbel> Umo: have you checked your downloaded iso with md5sum?
[22:25] <Umo> I get grub. its only when i try to install or boot live
[22:27] <uatever> yup no updated version installs but i can't even set full hd resolution on my tv..
[22:27] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Umo
[22:27] <matts45acp> can somone here tell me how to install the encryption pagages for playing dvd monies in the movie player?
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | matts45acp
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> ive noticed some copy-protected 'dvd' movies - dont want to play right for me lately. :( except in my new blue ray player
[22:28] <uatever> yup seems like its back to windows 7 since even to install simple drivers you have to go through 100 pages of documentation
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> uatever:  useing one kernel boot line.. is not 100 pages.. so do what you want
[22:29] <Meris> Dr_Willis, those kind of discs should be denied the DVD logo.
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  they DONT have the dvd logo.. they are still sold as dvd movies..
[22:29] <uatever> well if tried to do it manually and its not working
[22:30] <uatever> *i tried
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  looking at the cases now. :) Some are able to work.. but i got some just released shows that i cant even watch on my windows pcs ;(
[22:30] <Meris> Dr_Willis, I recently bought a R1 DVD by mistake. I had to decrypt the bloody thing to able to watch it, Region Coding is madness...
[22:31] <uatever> last time it was wierd noises on my speakers on digital output now its not like i have non-supported hardware
[22:31] <uatever> ubuntu never quite works well... always the same thing
[22:32] <matts45acp> can somone here tell me how to install the encryption pagages for playing dvd monies in the movie player?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  these are for my region.. they just wouldent play in the wifes old dvd player, or any pc i tried.
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> matts45acp:  i gave you the DVD url earlier..
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | matts45acp
[22:32] <matts45acp> oh sorry did not see it
[22:32] <Meris> uatever, what kind of Audio chipset do you use?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[22:32] <matts45acp> whats was it again
[22:33] <uatever> its realtek onboard
[22:33] <histo> uatever: what is the problem now?  sound?
[22:33] <uatever> but right now thats not even the problem its the ATI drivers not installing properly...
[22:33] <uatever> managed to install the drivers the non updated version
[22:33] <uatever> and it wont even let me set my tv to full HD
[22:34] <histo> uatever: what do you mean by the non updated version?
[22:34] <uatever> and recognizes it as a 7" display?
[22:34] <uatever> the drivers that are default with this distro i guess
[22:34] <Meris> Dr_Willis, try DVDFab, it runs through Wine. If it's legal to decrypt it for home use depends on your local law.
[22:34] <Guest83188> Does anybody know the differences between head , branch , trunk of a repository software like cvs stand for and when to uses them
[22:34] <Guest83188>  my understanding is head is the current bleeding edge
[22:34] <Guest83188>  don't know about the others though
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  these disks were to new for dvdfab to work on them. :) it did work on some older disks..
[22:35] <krababbel> uatever: handshake problems on digital tvs are a whole other problem
[22:35] <histo> uatever: press the windows key and type in drivers click on additional drivers and install the drivers for your ATI card
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  i was impressed with dvdfab and how well it worked.. but i couldent figure out its priceing/licensing to buy it, :)
[22:35] <krababbel> uatever: so is the format problem on digital outputs
[22:36] <Meris> Dr_Willis, whoa, must be a really popular series than, DRM hurts the wrong people, it should be abolished.
[22:36] <Meris> Dr_Willis, than => then
[22:36] <uatever> histo already did...
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  i doubt if very many people wanted to pirate 'The courtship of eddies father season 1'
[22:36] <histo> uatever: and did you activate the ati driver from there?
[22:36] <uatever> yes
[22:36] <uatever> and rebooted
[22:36] <krababbel> uatever: what about that log? did you pastebin it?
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  or 'the love boat season 1'  (yes my wife wanted weird shows)
[22:37] <histo> uatever: and the problem was?
[22:37] <uatever> required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3600, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[22:37] <pinkus> on the Ubuntu mini.iso, there is a step where it asks which kernel to install. There is a list of like 20 of them. Does it matter too much which kernel? I have a 64 bit corei7, so maybe the "linux generic" or the "linux image generic", or maybe the "linux image 3.2.0.29-generic"?
[22:37] <uatever> its not recognizing my tv properly... saying its a 7" display
[22:37] <Meris> Dr_Willis, Love Boat, do they protect it that harshly that it wouldn't even play on your wife's old DVD player? That's ludicrous...
[22:38] <pinkus> "linux generic" was the kernel that is at the top and was highlighted by default.
[22:38] <beata|lemur> I'm looking for help in backporting some things (for now cups and dependencies), according to the pbuilder HOWTO. *most* of it is going well but I'm running into some weirder errors (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170756/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170511/ currently). Am researching the latter, but suggestions?
[22:38] <Meris> Dr_Willis, you should have returned the set, telling them that it's not a DVD.
[22:38] <histo> uatever: is the tv connected via hdmi?
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  She wanted it....   I went and bought a new blueray player for her to use.. :)
[22:39] <Meris> Dr_Willis, well, vote with your wallet, I'd say. I would have searched for another edition instead.
[22:39] <uatever> yes histo
[22:40] <convivial> hi.
[22:40] <Meris> convivial, hi, please state your question
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  there is none.. and last i looked at teh stores Most all the new releases  have some sort of protection.
[22:40] <convivial> does 12.x support mutlimonitors? it is a pain with 11.x
[22:40] <histo> uatever: you may have better luck using the driver directly from ati if you are continuing to experience issues with the one from hardware drivers. I'm not that familiar with ati hardware perhaps someone else has an idea
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> convivial:  depends on your video chipset. Multi Monitor nvidia works great for me.. has for years
[22:40] <Meris> convivial, that really depends on your GPU rather then the Desktop you choose.
[22:40] <convivial> i have dual chip sets
[22:41] <convivial> intel and nvidia
[22:41] <Meris> convivial,  sounds like a MacBook Pro, right?
[22:41] <uatever> is gnome having problems with nvidia again?
[22:41] <uatever> *ati i mean
[22:41] <convivial> it is a lenovo w520
[22:41] <histo> uatever: keep in mind that a lot of TVs have issues with the way the report over HDMI has been my experience
[22:42] <uatever> it used to work with kubuntu
[22:42] <uatever> like 1 year ago
[22:42] <histo> uatever: what card do you ahve exactly?
[22:42] <uatever> i just installed the drivers it asked me and i never had a problem with it
[22:42] <uatever> hd5770
[22:42] <uatever> vaporx
[22:42] <Meris> convivial, that should work after you have installed the nvidia-settings panel and adjusted it to your monitor setup.
[22:43] <convivial> ok
[22:43] <Guest98166> http://depositfiles.com/files/1jb9j7vih
[22:43] <Meris> convivial, What desktop environment do you use? Unity, Gnome3, XFCE, LXDE?
[22:44] <convivial> unity
[22:45] <Meris> convivial, in that case, after you have adjusted the settings in the nVidia control panel, you can use the unity settings: Screens to tell Unity if you want the Unity bar on only one screen or both.
[22:47] <histo> uatever: I would ask your question again about the resolution problem in one line so that others can see it. Someone else maybe able to provide more help.
[22:47] <Rajvi> Hello Everyone, Greetings from India!!
[22:47] <Meris> uatever, if you have a multi-line response, a link to a pastebin would be ideal.
[22:48] <Meris> Rajvi, thanks likewise,  how can we help you?
[22:49] <Rajvi> Simple question, If i let 12..04 to auto-login, then i need to unlocl the keyring each time,its annoyong.How can i avoid this?
[22:51] <sindile> i am trying to play this http://wbls.com/pages/3874639.php with rhythmbox - getting error missing plugin any ideas o how to resolve this
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> you can set the keyring with a blank password..
[22:51] <Meris> Rajvi, sorry, can't help you on that dues to lack of experience with that setting on 12.04. I've used it at a client's place in 10,04. It worked perfectly then.
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[22:53] <Rajvi> My issue is that : I don't want to unlock the keyring each time I login, however if I set 12.04 to NOT to auto-login, then I don't get the prompt to enter the login keyring.
[22:53] <histo> Rajvi: remove the keyring password
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a security feature to me... if you never want to enter a password for the keyring ever.. set it to be blank
[22:53] <Rajvi> How to remove the keyring?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> see the url i pasted above.....
[22:54] <malcolm91> I am having so many problems with ubuntu. please help.
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> you set the password to be blank  which makes it use 'unsafe storage' so it never asks
[22:55] <Rajvi> Thanks!!
[22:55] <histo> Rajvi: Rajvi applications > passwords and keys  set the password to blank
[22:55] <uatever> think im gonna quickly jump onto fedora and see if i have the same problems there also..
[22:56] <Rajvi> If i disable the keyring, then i believe I would have to enter the password for each application, am I correct?
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> Rajvi:  you are NOT disabling the keyring.. you are setting where it unlocks automatically
[22:56] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, ask your questions
[22:57] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, I can't right click, watch netflix, or watch youtube.
[22:57] <NicolasCage_> is it normal for th eprocessor to be 50-60% all the time? im on ubuntu, with unity. and the same was happenning on xfce.
[22:57] <Zeptis> malcolm: I can answer two of those
[22:57] <histo> Rajvi: dont' disable the keyring just set a blank passowrd
[22:58] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, so the right click menu wont come up?
[22:58] <histo> malcolm91: At the moment you cannot watch netflix in linux
[22:58] <Zeptis> malcolm: Netflix uses microsoft silverlight; as such, there will never be a linux client
[22:58] <histo> Zeptis: yes there will be
[22:58] <histo> Zeptis: they already have one for chrome os
[22:58] <Rajvi> I believe we have moonlight;)
[22:59] <malcolm91> Zeptis, Please do, but I am computer illiterate, and the forums do nothing for me.
[22:59] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, right.
[22:59] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, what are you clicking over
[22:59] <Meris> malcolm91, what kind of computer do you have?
[23:00] <NicolasCage_> is it normal for the processor to be 50-60% all the time? im on ubuntu, with unity. and the same was happenning on xfce.
[23:00] <Zeptis> did you install Flash (or a GPL variant) for your browser (Youtube problem)?
[23:00] <malcolm91> I have an asus A55
[23:00] <alex20032> I am currently following an electronic course... (well, all my course are electronic) And I was wondering what is the best simulation & schemantic sofware to make circuit... Under *nix
[23:00] <Zeptis> NicolasCage_: no, have you run htop yet?
[23:00] <NicolasCage_> I forgot about htop.
[23:01] <Rajvi> When I login to the recovery console, the disks are mounted as 'ro' as default, Is it expected?
[23:01] <alex20032> I found many program to make circuit, but most of them are very weak on simulation
[23:01] <Meris> malcolm91, is that a laptop, or are you describing the motherboard model?
[23:01] <matts45acp> can someone tell me if its posible to stream netflix in ubuntu?
[23:01] <histo> Rajvi: did you set your keyring password as blank?
[23:01] <NicolasCage_> im installing htop now.
[23:02] <malcolm91> Meris, it's a laptop.
[23:02] <Zeptis> appearantly, chromium + moonlight does it, matts45
[23:02] <matts45acp> where i get moonlight
[23:02] <histo> Zeptis: No it doens't as far as I know
[23:02] <Vyla2> hey there, is that a way i can check if i'm using the integrated graphic of the motherboard or of the CPU?
[23:03] <Zeptis> someone said chrome does it a couple of minutes ago
[23:03] <histo> matts45acp: there is no way to do it with linux.
[23:03] <histo> Zeptis: chrome OS does it
[23:03] <WeThePeople> matts45acp, http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux
[23:03] <Zeptis> good point histo
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> moonlight wont let you play DRM protected video streams
[23:03]  * Zeptis remembers to read more carefully and take his ritilan
[23:04] <Meris> malcom91, on what are you right-clicking? Not every program has separate right-click functions.
[23:05] <malcolm91> Meris, it doesn't work for anything. word, chrome. it acts as a left click.
[23:06] <histo> Zeptis: I should clarify that Chrome OS installed on official hardware works. like chromebooks
[23:06] <coldkey21> Zeptis: netflix will run on the chrome OS but not in the browser on ubuntu
[23:06] <Meris> malcolm, have you tried plugging in a mouse instead of using the touchpad?
[23:06] <Zeptis> histo: but then you're a part of the google chrome botnet /tinfoil
[23:06] <matts45acp> wethepeople, so i have to use a virtual machine huh?
[23:06] <WeThePeople> i guess
[23:06] <histo> matts45acp: yes
[23:07] <matts45acp> wethepeople, if i have to do that then forget it, thanx though
[23:07] <histo> matts45acp: http://www.howtogeek.com/119204/how-to-watch-netflix-on-linux/
[23:07] <Meris> malcolm91, have you tried plugging in a mouse instead of using the builtin touchpad?
[23:07] <histo> matts45acp: covers running a vm
[23:07] <malcolm91> Meris, yes, and it works, but it is not always convenient.
[23:07] <histo> matts45acp: amazon video works in linux
[23:07] <matts45acp> histo, how about cinema now will that work?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> cheaper to get a little roku or somthing. :)
[23:08] <Meris> malcolm, could you please open a terminal screen and pastebin the output of lspci and lsusb?
[23:09] <malcolm91> Meris, I have no idea what that means.
[23:09] <Meris> malcolm91, ^the terminal looks like a black computer screen, with a >
[23:09] <Meris> malcolm91, try Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal screen
[23:10] <malcolm91> now what.
[23:10] <Meris> malcolm91, now please enter the following command, followed by [Enter] and post the output on a pastebin
[23:11] <Meris> pastebin! | malcolm91
[23:11] <zohjz> hello, i'm trying to recover a WEP password, does someone have a good recent tutorial about that?
[23:11] <zohjz> the aircrack-ng package seems outdated according to apt-get
[23:11] <Meris> !pastebin | malcolm91
[23:12] <malcolm91> Meris, what command?
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> zohjz:  thats not really supriseing. there may be newer PPA's for it.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | zohjz
[23:12] <WeThePeople> malcolm, lspci and lsusb
[23:13] <WeThePeople> malcolm, type lspci then press enter
[23:13] <Meris> malcolm91, my, I must be getting sleepy... Sorry about that. The first command is lspci and the second is lsusb
[23:13] <Zeptis> hmm, edev seems to be having some sort of problem.
[23:13] <WeThePeople> malcolm, then type lsusb and press enter
[23:13] <trond-> In Xorg.0.log I see the following: http://pastebin.com/CkGFEznE ... Is this a Good thing? And I am refering to the two/three  intel loading/unloading lines.
[23:13] <WeThePeople> malcolm, copy and paste to http://pastebin.com
[23:14] <Meris> WeThePeople, thank you for providing the long version of the instructions
[23:14] <Zeptis> trond-: I'm having a simliar problem, it would seem
[23:14] <WeThePeople> idk
[23:15] <trond-> Zeptis, what are the symptoms of your problems? :)
[23:15] <Zeptis> well, X sends an exit signal to Openbox erratically, and I think it has something to do with edev.
[23:16] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, how do i paste it here?
[23:17] <WeThePeople> malcolm, i think crl + v
[23:17] <WeThePeople> ctrl*
[23:17] <Zeptis> I wish I knew a lot more about rc's but they're not very friendly to being configured.
[23:17] <WeThePeople> malcolm, you can use the keyboard for these functions
[23:18] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, i tried that, but nothing.
[23:18] <Meris> malcolm91, put please only paste the *link* to the pastebin page that has been generated for you.
[23:18] <WeThePeople> malcolm, you will see it in the URL bar after you hit submit
[23:18] <WeThePeople> its magic
[23:19] <jack_sparrow> A friend just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and it is now not accepting his password.  Capslock is not on .  any suggestions on what happened?
[23:20] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, see above
[23:21] <FlipStonE> hello... i have a question, and i can't find the solution :-)
[23:21] <WeThePeople> flipstone, wazup
[23:21] <FlipStonE> flash player ask me to increase local storage, but i can't click accept
[23:21] <FlipStonE> i've looked adobe site with their storage manager, not seems to work
[23:23] <Aethrs> After upgrading to 12.04, gnome-classic sets desktops to "1", and won't save any changes I make to this attribute.
[23:23] <Aethrs> Any solution?  This is completely ruining my use of ubuntu.
[23:24] <Aethrs> I've found others mentioning this problem online, but no solutions.
[23:26] <zohjz> Dr_Willis: can't find a ppa for it
[23:26] <malcolm91> I am so lost.
[23:26] <WeThePeople> flipstone, what menu are you under for the flash increase
[23:26] <Zeptis> >>GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read.
[23:26] <zohjz> Dr_Willis: i don't get it, according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aircrack-ng, it should be supported
[23:27] <WeThePeople> flipstone, is this for viewing youtube vids
[23:27] <Meris> malcolm91, I am a helpdesk support agent, I'll try to help through a PM
[23:29] <FlipStonE> WeThePeople, no, for swf instances i run local
[23:29] <malcolm91> Meris, how do i go to the pm?
[23:29] <IronSight> What's the proper way to stop the xserver? I use... litedm I am trying to install the latest nvidia driver :/
[23:29] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, he will pm you
[23:30] <Meris> malcolm91, just double click on my name in your chat program
[23:30] <IronSight> (not using the one in the repo)
[23:30] <jrib> !nvidia > IronSight
[23:30] <owler> Hello all, I somehow turned thes ound off my laptop. I tried alsamixer and selecting different sound cards and boosting the volume, but no dice. Furthermore, nothing is on mute. I also used the GUI for the sound and all levels are up--still no sound
[23:30] <Zeptis> oh cool
[23:30] <Zeptis> !nvidia > Zeptis
[23:30] <jrib> owler: check pavucontrol maybe :x
[23:30] <Aethrs> What other desktop environments does ubuntu have, besides unity?  Since gnome-classic is broken and no one has a suggestion.
[23:31] <jrib> !nounity | Aethrs
[23:31] <IronSight> jrib, yeah, thing is... I want the newer driver, and all I really want to know is how to shut down X so I can work on it in a terminal :/
[23:31] <Aethrs> jrib- gnome-shell is broken for me...badly.
[23:31] <Aethrs> jrib- For other people, too.
[23:31] <jrib> Aethrs: there's also lubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, and a million other minimal window managers
[23:31] <hylian> Aethrs: gnome-classic stopeed functioning for you? i would also suggest xfce and lxde. lxde is very simple, but that's what I like about it.
[23:31] <Aethrs> jrib- I've removed the configuration directories
[23:32] <Aethrs> lbuntu kubuntu are distributions, right?
[23:32] <Aethrs> Is there a way to install kde?
[23:32] <Zeptis> Aethrs: and xbuntu, yes
[23:32] <jrib> !kde | Aethrs
[23:32] <neodemi> does anyone know of a logfile or program that would show me whats causing random intense disc activity spikes?
[23:32] <IronSight> back in the day all it would take would be... sudo stop gdm or whatever...
[23:32] <peterrus> IronSight,
[23:32] <peterrus> its simple ;)
[23:32] <jrib> IronSight: it's still the same.  But you should really read the information ubottu sent you
[23:32] <peterrus> sudo service lightdm stop
[23:32] <IronSight> thanks
[23:32] <hylian> Aethrs: yes. but you can install lxde and xfce straight from your installed ubuntu distro. the only real differeces is a "pretty pack" for each desktop.
[23:32] <Zeptis> kubuntu isn't very well maintained, though
[23:32] <Aethrs> I'll give kde a try.
[23:33] <Aethrs> I like gnome & kde.. It's just gnome is badly, badly broken for some reason.
[23:33] <peterrus> Zeptis, is it?
[23:33] <Aethrs> Desktops are stuck at 1.
[23:33] <Aethrs> And it won't retain changes to that.
[23:33] <neodemi> ive tried having iotop run, but havent been able to catch whatever has caused the spikes yet
[23:33] <hylian> Aethrs: you can do what you want ofcoarse, but the last desktop environment I would install is kde. it makes unity look no buggy by comparison
[23:33] <Aethrs> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+question/198906 ..basically.
[23:33] <Zeptis> peterrus: muon is broken, and the package manager doesn't work.
[23:33] <Zeptis> you have to dpkg all the time
[23:33] <peterrus> thats bad
[23:33] <Zeptis> you might as well use Debian + KDE
[23:34] <peterrus> what is muon?
[23:34] <Aethrs> hylian- I just detest the look of unity.  Too much wasted space, reminds me of windows.
[23:34] <Zeptis> it's supposed to be the KDE software manager, but it's very bad.
[23:34] <peterrus> strange
[23:34] <peterrus> it is rather optimized for small screens Aethrs
[23:34] <hylian> Aethrs: mee too! i am a huge fan of lxde for that reason. lxde and xfce have a gnome 2 feel to them.
[23:34] <Aethrs> There's a huge bar of icons
[23:34] <peterrus> also my experience with kubuntu the last years was bad indeed
[23:35] <peterrus> gnome3 is nice too, but really for the poweruser
[23:35] <Aethrs> Hmm
[23:35] <Aethrs> Maybe I can try gnome3
[23:35] <Aethrs> I just want my 8 virtual desktops
[23:35] <peterrus> unity does well for me, especially with the keyboard shortcuts and gesture support (multitouch)
[23:35] <Aethrs> Hot keys for everything
[23:35] <peterrus> Aethrs, I have never needed that XD
[23:35] <Aethrs> And no gigantic unity taskbar of doom taking up all available real estate.
[23:35] <Zeptis> I'm using Ubu without Lightdm or Unity, just X-->Openbox right now; however, now I need some video drivers because the nouveau ones aren't loading properly
[23:35] <peterrus> then make it smaller?
[23:36] <Aethrs> Can I resize it to 0 ?
[23:36] <peterrus> you can autohide it
[23:36] <peterrus> you can't really do without
[23:36] <Aethrs> I really detest it existing at all.
[23:36] <hylian> Aethrs: gnome3 hides its bar until you need it, so i can see the attraction there.
[23:36] <peterrus> then try gnome 3
[23:36] <peterrus> indeed
[23:36] <wan26> I use unity, but is there a way yet to move the side launcher to the bottom (i have looked at forums) without tinkering with it myself and ruining my machine?
[23:36] <Zeptis> Aethrs: sudo apt-get purge unity*
[23:36] <Aethrs> I already issued the kde desktop install
[23:36] <Zeptis> good luck
[23:36] <peterrus> wan26, not really
[23:36] <Aethrs> Zeptis- Thanks, I'll run that after :)
[23:37] <hylian> Aethrs: you will need to remember the alt key if you want to shutdown. (or just log out and then shut down.)
[23:37] <Aethrs> hylian- Alt key?
[23:37] <wan26> That's a shame.
[23:37] <Aethrs> I read something about needing the alt key.. What's it do in that context?
[23:37] <peterrus> http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Unity-alternatives-the-many-desktops-of-Ubuntu-1614860.html
[23:37] <hylian> Aethrs: yes, in gnome3 you need to hold down the alt key in the log off menu to get the option to shut down
[23:38] <peterrus> Aethrs, have a look at cinamon
[23:38] <peterrus> never tired it myself though
[23:38] <Aethrs> peterrus- That's great, thank you :)
[23:38] <peterrus> Enlightenment is also quite nice
[23:38]  * hylian is using mint too, peterrus! very good!
[23:38] <peterrus> http://www.enlightenment.org/
[23:38] <peterrus> hylian, I am not ;) but hey, I tried
[23:38] <Aethrs> I remember when enlightenment came out haha
[23:38] <peterrus> yes, I ran it a while ago in netbook mode
[23:38] <peterrus> or small screen mode
[23:38] <peterrus> I was quite impressed
[23:39] <hylian> Aethrs: e17 is a disaster in ubuntu though... very buggy and crashy. too bad, such a nice desktop when it is stable.
[23:39] <Cong> does ubuntu understand autorun.inf?
[23:39] <WeThePeople> enlightenment is over rated
[23:39] <peterrus> Cong, no
[23:39] <h22turbo> quick (noob) question.... i have Ubuntu 12.04 lts installed. im using gnome fallback session. what themes can i use/install? i see a bunch of themes for unity and gnome shell (3.x) but not sure what i can install. im have both gtk 2 and 3 installed....
[23:39] <peterrus> you can install any gtk3 theme
[23:40] <h22turbo> do i just need a gtk 2.x or 3.x theme?
[23:40] <peterrus> 3
[23:40] <Cong> peterus, how come my usb drive icon is change then?
[23:40] <peterrus> probably
[23:40] <hylian> Cong: i don't think so. if your trying to run a windows cd, i ususally go into the cd itself and run the exe or com file for starting the software...
[23:40] <peterrus> Cong, alright it might understand that indeed
[23:40] <h22turbo> i was lookin around on the net... and it looked like the themes were only for unity or gnome shell... and didnt mention it would work with fallback
[23:40] <Zeptis> how does one take a screenshot of X from CLI?
[23:40] <yggdrasil> wha replaces apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?
[23:41]  * hylian is lovin Bellamy Brothers - Old Hippie
[23:41] <h22turbo> yggdrasil: apt-cache search gcc-3
[23:41] <yggdrasil> mhmm
[23:41] <yggdrasil> hylian: nice.
[23:41] <h22turbo> or syn package manager should tell u
[23:41] <yhager> What's the most painless way to install boost>1.46 on 11.10?
[23:42] <Cong> peterus, I don't understand. are you saying it will change the icon.
[23:42] <mhalligan> does anyone know if there's som special magic towards getting hostname -f to work in ubuntu?
[23:42] <hylian> yggdrasil: type this in console to listen with me: mplayer http://108.61.73.119:8018
[23:42] <peterrus> yhager, I would say build it
[23:42] <yggdrasil> okay
[23:42] <yhager> peterrus: okay, thx
[23:43] <h22turbo> peterrus: thanks
[23:43] <BoomerBile> what package pulls in all of the autotools? (automake, aclocal, etc) ?
[23:43] <h22turbo> BoomerBile: build-essentials
[23:43] <BoomerBile> h22turbo: hmm cause it didn't work
[23:43] <Cong> does autorun.inf change the icon of usb drives or not
[23:44] <yggdrasil> hylian: nice.
[23:44] <BoomerBile> h22turbo: aclocal: command not found
[23:44] <yggdrasil> im a harmonica player
[23:44] <yggdrasil> :)
[23:44] <hylian> yggdrasil: the song was over too fast though. this is the highway 181 channel from 181.fm.
[23:44] <yggdrasil> mhm.
[23:44] <yggdrasil> i caught just the end, had to apte get it.
[23:45] <krababbel> radiotray rocks
[23:45] <hylian> yggdrasil: yeah, this is my fave shoutcast radio channel. i love old country.
[23:46] <yggdrasil> its ok,
[23:46] <yggdrasil> ive been listening to alot lately, trying to write a song
[23:46] <yggdrasil> a country song.
[23:46] <matts45acp> can someone tell me what the best movie player is in ubuntu?
[23:46] <hylian> ugh, commercials...
[23:46] <yggdrasil> matts45acp: vlc ?
[23:46] <Zeptis> define best, matts45
[23:46] <h22turbo> BoomerBile: automake is what u need
[23:47] <szal> !best | matts45acp
[23:47] <yggdrasil> try vlc
[23:47] <yggdrasil> youll like it
[23:47] <h22turbo> BoomerBile: apt-cache search automake
[23:47] <BoomerBile> thanks h22turbo
[23:47] <Cong> matts, totem
[23:47] <hylian> matts45acp: i like totem. some people like vlc. i think it's mostly just a matter of taste though.
[23:47] <Zeptis> VLC did stop being bad
[23:47] <Zeptis> hylian: does totem do 10bit?
[23:47] <Cong> vlc is still evil
[23:47] <h22turbo> theres a few different versions of automake tho
[23:47] <szal> Zeptis: 10bit?
[23:47] <h22turbo> 1.4, 1.7, 1.9
[23:47] <h22turbo> 1.10
[23:48] <BoomerBile> yeah, i'll take the newest thanks
[23:48] <peterrus> Aethrs, Zeptis https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/UkoAaLDpF4i  ;)
[23:48] <hylian> Zeptis: don't know, no one ever asked me that before. 10 bit video stream?
[23:48] <BoomerBile> :D
[23:48] <Zeptis> 10bit video color encode, instead of 8bit, Szal
[23:48] <Zeptis> AKA Weeaboo AVI
[23:48] <BoomerBile> i'm trying to build my c++ application in ubuntu, ubuntu is installed on an android phone
[23:48] <BoomerBile> i'm just steps away from finally getting it to work
[23:49] <h22turbo> nice
[23:49] <h22turbo> i have ubuntu on my Samsung Mesmerize also
[23:49] <FlipStonE> ok, workaround for the flash problem... now you can increase flash storage 2 ways... global storage and website storage... in website storage you'll find website called local, click on it, and you can change value... restart browser and tadaaaaaam, it works... website: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
[23:49] <hylian> Zeptis: i couldn't find anything that said totem doesn't, but i did find that vlc absolutely does, according to a forum
[23:49] <BoomerBile> cool, h22turbo, samsung stratosphere here
[23:49] <Zeptis> okay.
[23:50] <Zeptis> Japan TV does 10bit encode on color
[23:50] <h22turbo> i love ubuntu linux... even tho everyone calls it "noob linux"
[23:50] <BoomerBile> i call it faster than compiling gentoo, which is my main distro
[23:51] <peterrus> I call #care
[23:51] <h22turbo> but, those people that call it "noob linux" are usually windows people... and dont know anything about linux
[23:51] <peterrus> indeed
[23:51] <BoomerBile> h22turbo: indeed
[23:51] <peterrus> and let them spend all there time reinventing the wheel xD
[23:51] <hylian> Zeptis: here's the straight poop: Dec 26, 2011 ... Totem unfortunately doesn't support 10-bit encoded x264 videos yet. If you want to play those videos, you'll need to use a different video player ...
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> 'Polished Pangolin' describes it well...
[23:51] <peterrus> I'll just stick to a properly maintained distro and have some time to go out and have fun
[23:51] <KM0201> I'm not particularly a fan of Ubuntu, but i like it because unlike some other distros I use, everything "just works" and i don't spend an hour or so setting it up.
[23:52] <peterrus> Precise* Dr_Willis
[23:52] <KM0201> that's particularly important on my laptop.
[23:52] <Jordan_U> !ot
[23:52] <KM0201> ..
[23:52] <peterrus> 0_0
[23:52] <hylian> KM0201: i agree. for most people it is a install and it runs distro.
[23:52] <peterrus> !dbad
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> peterrus:  it was called polished in many of the press reports from caonical. because of the amount of polish they tried to put into the relwease
[23:52] <h22turbo> ive honestly tried other distros... and i always come back to ubuntu cause its the best imo
[23:52] <peterrus> I see
[23:53] <peterrus> well lets not get offtopic now
[23:53] <backbox> hi guys
[23:53] <BoomerBile> it's the best put together _pre-built_ linux i can find
[23:53] <peterrus> /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53]  * hylian is jiving to highway 181 old country - http://108.61.73.119:8018
[23:53] <Zeptis> Seconding boomerbile, although it's a bitch to take apart
[23:53] <backbox> what's a keylogger?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> backbox:  a gizmo that records your key presses.
[23:54] <BoomerBile> woot! now i just need to get sdl compiled and my game will work on android, thanks h22turbo , gotta run and eat supper
[23:54] <backbox> anyone know the meaning of keylogger?
[23:54] <hylian> backbox: a program that records everything you type without your knowledge., or i should say without the users knowledge.
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> backbox:  i imagine Wikipedia does...
[23:54] <WeThePeople> backbox, it is a hidden software porgram
[23:54] <WeThePeople> to record keystrokes
[23:54] <Zeptis> Backbox: see Dr_Willis' first post to you
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> 'logs keys' ;)
[23:54] <backbox> interesting
[23:55] <WeThePeople> backbox, hackers use keyloggers
[23:55] <backbox> in which way i can install a keylogger in a notebook?
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> backbox:  if you have to ask.. you most likely dont need to...
[23:55] <Jordan_U> backbox: What is your end goal?
[23:55] <Cong> can keylogging be down on ubuntu like in Windows?
[23:55] <hylian> backbox: there are usually many to choose from. as long as you have acces to said notebook. I would hope your using it for non nefarious purposes...
[23:56] <Zeptis> Cong: possible, but needs a DKM or root-pass to do anything
[23:56] <Zeptis> Cong: that is to say, a lot harder to do than in any Windows
[23:56] <Zeptis> from the net, at least
[23:56] <Zeptis> usb drives work
[23:56] <backbox> i want know what my friend do whit my notebook
[23:57] <Cong> one thing at a time then
[23:57] <Zeptis> backbox: just reinstall already
[23:57] <KM0201> backbox: you could easily say "my friend will do nothing w/ my netbook" by not giving it to him?
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> or making them use the guest account
[23:57] <KM0201> that to.
[23:57] <backbox> because they are in my home
[23:57] <hylian> backbox: i would start by google-ing ubuntu keylogger. but it will be a lot harder in ubuntu. linux is supposed to be more secure, not less.
[23:58] <backbox> i have windows 7
[23:58] <backbox> 64bit
[23:58] <v0lksman> I just installed fancontrol but now I want to uninstall it and go back to the "default" remove --purge isn't doing it...any ideas/
[23:58] <v0lksman> ?
[23:58] <WeThePeople> v0lksman, use autoremove
[23:58] <hylian> v0lksman: sudo apt-get remove fancontrol?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> backbox: This is #ubuntu, the support channel for the GNU/Linux distribution Ubuntu. Does your question relate to Ubuntu in any way?
[23:59] <WeThePeople> -purge only removes old files of the same program after updates
[23:59] <hylian> v0lksman: i would follow WeThePeople's idea.
[23:59] <Zeptis> Our story thus far: backbox, for the 3rd time, comes here looking for ways to remove a sinister kernel module his friend installed.
[23:59] <v0lksman> nadda...I need the default ubuntu fan behavior restored. removing the package isn't the problem