[12:29] <hammommah> greetings, i've just setup 12.04 to run thin clients for all my kidlets. Only problem is I havent got any sound :( when I go to system settings and click sound option it freezes. Alsa mixer shows 3 devices and all are unmuted. Where do i look to trouble shoot??
[16:15] <bencer> stgraber: i'm uploading new versions of zentyal to the archive
[16:15] <bencer> seems that micahg has some complains about the versioning we are using
[16:15] <bencer> as i told him, how we work is
[16:15] <bencer> zentyal packages are native
[16:16] <bencer> official release is for LTS, so master during development, 2.2, 3.0 (once released) branches are for LTS
[16:16] <bencer> non LTS that need special changes for specific packages versions (like redis for quantal), they get a +quantalX
[16:17] <bencer> feedback is appreciated, but we need a strong reason to change :)
[16:18] <bencer> right now we are super focused on bugfixing, i would prefer not to make changes in release process that make us "loose" time
[16:31] <micahg> stgraber: jocarter: you were supposed to discuss the various freezes with bencer, not sure what happened, but at least one of the two uploads violated feature freeze
[16:32] <bencer> ok micahg don't panic
[16:32] <bencer> we can request still the exception
[16:36] <micahg> bencer: as for the iptables issue, looks small enough for SRU, I've given the bug tasks,  it needs to go into quantal first, then you can follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[16:36] <jocarter> micahg: I did. bencer was just under the impression that FF was this coming thursday, so I pasted him a link to the release schedule
[16:36] <micahg> umm, but there was an announcement on ubuntu-devel-announce....
[16:36] <bencer> micahg: i'm going to request the FFe now
[16:37] <micahg> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-August/000974.html
[16:37] <jocarter> micahg: unfortunately, I do not have the time to poke people to ask them if they have read their emails.
[16:37] <bencer> micahg: sorry about that, too much hassle with bugfixing now
[16:40] <micahg> jocarter: understandable, that was more a question for bencer :)
[16:41] <bencer> micahg: yup, i took for granted that we were still before the FF
[16:41] <bencer> and because i'm dealing with a lot stuff i just went ahead
[16:41] <bencer> some more packages made its way to the queue before you warned me
[16:41] <bencer> but going to fill in a FFe against zentyal-core
[16:41] <bencer> covering all the zentyal-* upload
[16:43] <micahg> bencer: I meant about reading ubuntu-devel-announce e-mails :)
[16:43] <bencer> micahg: i'm subscribed and i read the list
[16:44] <bencer> but many thing go and leave, i'll be more careful next time
[16:45] <micahg> bencer: thanks, you might want to filter that into a must read box, you can skip stuff like meeting minutes, but you'll want to make sure you get freeze notices and toolchain change info
[16:46] <bencer> ok, good idea
[16:55] <bencer> micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zentyal-core/+bug/1042844
[16:55] <bencer> micahg: can you help us to get this triaged asap? :)
[16:59] <micahg> bencer: IANA release team member
[17:15] <jocarter> bencer: best is not to try and rush it, follow the docs and follow up with people. try to avoid terms like "asap", it might sound like you're trying to rush someone.
[17:40] <micahg> bencer: your changelogs need to reflect changes in the Debian directory (and if that's done in the intermediate versions, you need to use -v when building the source package so they all show up in the source.changes file)