[11:08] <bac> hello frankban
[11:30] <frankban> hi bac
[11:33] <bac> frankban: did you see we copied the lpsetup and shelltoolbox ppas to ~launchpad?
[11:34] <bac> we need to decide whether to update the build recipes or just manually copy them over when we're satisfied.
[11:53] <frankban> bac: ack. Maybe we should create the recipes in Launchpad and configure them to build daily, AFAIK we will no longer work on lpsetup.
[11:53] <bac> frankban: probably wise
[12:10] <gary_poster> bac benji frankban call now-ish
[12:11] <bac> gary_poster: please invite
[12:12] <gary_poster> bac, done
[12:21] <gary_poster> https://canonical.leankitkanban.com/Boards/View/102529849
[12:30] <gary_poster> https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/LaunchpadJujuCharmForDevs
[12:32] <gary_poster> bac are you coming back?
[12:33] <bac> gary_poster: it won't let me.  invite again?
[12:49] <bac> gary_poster: in other good news, claro has decided we are good internet citizens and have agreed to let us buy a faster package.  should be active within 24 hours.
[12:50] <gary_poster> bac, great!
[14:02] <bac> gary_poster: what is the current projected parallel test run time on the new hardware?
[14:04] <gary_poster> bac, really strongly hopefully less than an hour.
[14:05] <gary_poster> ideally 35 minutes
[14:05] <gary_poster> but who knows till it happens
[14:55] <frankban> gary_poster: the final registration is for Product Strategy Summit - 24-26 October, right?
[15:08] <benji> frankban: is there anything I can do to help on the lpsetup recipe?
[15:09] <frankban> benji: yes, I removed the packages already copied in the launchpad ppa, but the upload still fails: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/113841748/upload_4072043_log.txt
[15:10] <gary_poster> frankban, that was the last one on my list, I think
[15:10]  * benji looks.
[15:11] <benji> frankban: hmm, have you tried artificially bumping the version?
[15:11] <frankban> benji: maybe we have to wait a bit before attempting to re build the package after deletion. Otherwise, an easy workaround could be committing an empty change in trunk.
[15:12] <benji> frankban: yep, if you have the revision in the version string, then an empty revision might do it
[15:13] <frankban> gary_poster: yes, and for accomodation -checkout, should I have to put November 1st? I already specified that in the eventbrite form, so, it's a bit confusing
[15:14] <gary_poster> frankban, yes, I think we are entering the same information over and over and over.  Don't stop. :-)  Who knows where they will actually be looking.
[15:14] <frankban> benji: yes we have. I will commit an empty changeset in trunk.
[15:14] <gary_poster> Our car won't start
[15:14] <gary_poster> I need to go out and get some metric wrenches
[15:15] <gary_poster> and a wire brush
[15:15] <frankban> gary_poster: :-) thanks
[15:15] <gary_poster> to see if it is just corrosion on the battery
[15:15] <gary_poster> so I'm taking my lunch now and might be kinda long
[15:15] <gary_poster> hopefully back in 1.5 hours max
[15:15] <gary_poster> bye
[15:15] <gary_poster> welcome :-)
[15:27] <frankban> benji: building
[15:27]  * benji crosses his fingers.
[15:34] <bac> first cut of wiki page with holes:  https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/ParallelTestingTroubleshooting
[15:40] <frankban> benji: done
[15:41] <benji> cool
[16:09]  * benji lunches.
[17:50]  * benji looks for a next task on the board.
[18:06] <bac> benji: you want to 'collaborate' by adding your experience to that wiki ^^^ page?
[18:16] <benji> bac: sure
[18:22] <bac> gary, benji:  the phone guy is here to do surgery on our wiring.  i may be disconnected for a bit.
[18:22] <gary_poster> ack bac.  good luck
[18:22] <benji> k
[18:22] <bac> yes, thanks
[18:23] <bac> gary_poster: can we talk here about our next bit of work?  do we need to reconvene under the canonical server?
[18:24] <gary_poster> bac, hm.  Maybe the canonical server is appropriate.  This is logged publicly, IIRC
[18:24] <bac> indeed
[18:24] <bac> logged and googleable
[18:24] <gary_poster> I will ask Kapil if there is already a reasonable place...
[19:58] <bac> gary_poster: i was just reminded next monday is labor day.  i plan to take it off and have just entered into canonicaladmin
[19:59] <gary_poster> bac, ah! thanks for the reminder.  not sure what I will do yet
[20:00] <bac> benji: thanks for the addition
[20:00] <bac> gary_poster: there is a question for you in https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/ParallelTestingTroubleshooting
[20:00] <gary_poster> I think I saw in bac :-)
[20:00] <gary_poster> it
[20:00] <bac> regarding which subunit-filter to use
[20:01] <gary_poster> oh, no, the page has progressed since I saw it last
[20:01] <gary_poster> bac, PYTHONPATH is no longer necessary.  PPA alone is sufficient
[20:02] <bac> gary_poster: that's what i figured
[21:02] <bac> gary_poster: did you get the car fixed?
[21:04] <bac> you should describe the symptoms and let benji and me do a differential diagnosis (he said merging "House" with "Car Talk")
[21:05] <benji> heh
[21:06] <benji> I've though about doing a Car Talk like show where people call in with bugs in their software.
[21:06] <benji> The potential audience and the potential callers would probably limit its success somewhat.
[22:54] <bac> "Caller did you check to see if you changed any global state?"