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| pitti | Good morning | 03:50 |
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| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:01 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 07:05 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, not too bad thanks. how are you? | 07:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm battling with a bit of an unreliable connection today :( | 07:06 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: je suis bien, merci! j'ai ecrit une test de smb pour gvfs | 07:06 |
| pitti | actually, un test | 07:07 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, good stuff :) | 07:07 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to have to start learning french ;) | 07:07 |
| pitti | j'apprends le français avec duolingo.com -- c'est bon! | 07:09 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I had thought that seb128 forced everyone to do that now :0 | 07:09 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i think he'd like to do that ;) | 07:09 |
| pitti | seb128: bonjour mon ami, ça va? | 07:55 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 07:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ca va bien, et toi ? | 07:56 |
| pitti | hating compiz! :) | 07:56 |
| pitti | je suis bien | 07:56 |
| pitti | I got bug 1042041 again, and it keeps forgetting my keybindings | 07:58 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1042041 in compiz "1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1 regression: wrong auto-raise, cannot be disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042041 | 07:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, je "vais" bien btw ;-) | 07:59 |
| pitti | seb128: pardon, d'accord! | 08:00 |
| seb128 | pas de soucis ;-) | 08:01 |
| seb128 | smspilla|z, ^ could you look at this compiz bug when you are around? | 08:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, ctrl-alt-t got fixed in gnome-control-center,gnome-settings-daemon by jbicha this w.e, did you restart your session yesterday? | 08:03 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, twice; and today three times more | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:04 |
| pitti | fun, this time ctrl+alt+t works, but I get that autoraise misbehaviour | 08:04 |
| seb128 | can you set it in the g-c-c ui? | 08:04 |
| pitti | I can always set back the keybinding for "lower window behind all others", but it keeps forgetting it | 08:04 |
| pitti | seb128: g-c-c doesn't allow configuring FFM or autoraise | 08:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, I was speaking about ctrl-alt-t specifically | 08:09 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, that one always seems to be set | 08:09 |
| pitti | it forgets about my alt+b binding for "put window to the back" and also show it as disabled in g-c-c, but hte ctrl+alt+t launcher is always shown (but doesn't work often) | 08:09 |
| pitti | seems there's a weird bug in the gsettings port | 08:10 |
| * pitti runs gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise-delay 10000, which does seem to work | 08:11 | |
| seb128 | pitti, do you know what's the name the key for "put window to the back" ? | 08:11 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings lower ['<Alt>b'] | 08:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, is your issue only with keys under org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings? | 08:13 |
| seb128 | or do you have issues with compiz schemas keys? | 08:13 |
| pitti | j'ai ecrit un nouveau test de smb:// pour le gvfs | 08:13 |
| pitti | . o O { is gvfs male or female? } | 08:14 |
| seb128 | "pour gvfs" we would say :p | 08:14 |
| pitti | seb128: windows+up/down are also broken right now; is that a compiz key? | 08:14 |
| pitti | seb128: what? no article? :-) | 08:14 |
| seb128 | no, I'm trying to think what the rules is | 08:15 |
| seb128 | like you would say "pour Canonical" | 08:15 |
| seb128 | those things as proper name don't have an article | 08:15 |
| pitti | le français n'est past facile | 08:15 |
| seb128 | non, il ne l'est pas ;-) | 08:15 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, merci | 08:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm trying to figure what those actions are | 08:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's the maximize,unmaximize,minimize key right? | 08:18 |
| pitti | right | 08:18 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings minimize ['<Control><Primary><Alt>KP_0'] | 08:18 |
| pitti | that looks strange | 08:18 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings maximize ['<Control><Primary><Super>Up'] | 08:19 |
| pitti | that too | 08:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, ctrl-super-up,down works here | 08:19 |
| pitti | but isn't it suposed to be win+up/down? | 08:20 |
| pitti | at least I configured it that way when they changed the default | 08:20 |
| pitti | and sometimes it works, and sometimes not | 08:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, where did you configure it? | 08:21 |
| pitti | in g-c-c | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, what's the name of the action you use? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, those are the max,restore win? | 08:23 |
| pitti | seb128: right; they were shown as ctrl+super+up/down in g-c-c, I just reset them back to super+up/down and that works now | 08:25 |
| pitti | (until I restart once or twice) | 08:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you run another session than unity sometimes? | 08:25 |
| pitti | not for my user | 08:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, those keys are common ones, I wonder if gnome-shell or something change them | 08:25 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 08:25 |
| seb128 | well, if compiz was making wrong use of the keys I would say it's a compiz bug | 08:25 |
| seb128 | but it seems the value of those keys change on disk | 08:26 |
| seb128 | so I'm a bit unsure what's going on | 08:26 |
| seb128 | otherwise, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:0.9.7.4-0ubuntu1 | 08:26 |
| seb128 | * debian/patches/ubuntu-config.patch: | 08:26 |
| seb128 | Ctrl + Super + Cursor up Maximises the current window | 08:26 |
| seb128 | Ctrl + Super + Cursor down Restores or minimises current window | 08:26 |
| seb128 | 08:26 | |
| seb128 | not sure if that's what we stayed on for precise or if that's one we reverted | 08:27 |
| * seb128 checks the source | 08:27 | |
| pitti | I think ctrl+super is the current default | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, we have ctrl-super for those | 08:29 |
| pitti | so the issues is that sometimes my settings get reverted | 08:29 |
| seb128 | so, something reset your user config sometime, will be fun to figure the something ... | 08:29 |
| pitti | and that autoraise behaviour is strange, as we do not defualt to autoraise | 08:29 |
| seb128 | which one is that? | 08:30 |
| pitti | and unlike for the keybindings, the gsettings key for autoraise looks correct | 08:30 |
| pitti | err | 08:30 |
| pitti | or so it was yesterday | 08:30 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise true | 08:30 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise-delay 10000 | 08:30 |
| pitti | now it seems it got set to true | 08:30 |
| pitti | #)*$# | 08:30 |
| seb128 | :-( | 08:30 |
| seb128 | so your bug is basically "something plays with gsettings keys and reset them" | 08:30 |
| pitti | well, at least that makes it more consistent | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, except for autoraise | 08:31 |
| seb128 | ? | 08:31 |
| * pitti resets autoraise and a-r-delay now and will check at next login | 08:31 | |
| seb128 | I though you just said the key got resetted as well? | 08:31 |
| pitti | seb128: no, the default for aut-raise is false (as it should be), and something set it to true | 08:31 |
| smspilla|z | seb128: can you tag is with "gsettings" ? | 08:32 |
| seb128 | smspilla|z, sure | 08:32 |
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| MCR1 | pitti: Is it bug 1022743 ? | 08:33 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1022743 in unity "Shortcuts in CCSM reset after getting changed." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022743 | 08:33 |
| smspillaz|class | not the same thing no | 08:33 |
| smspillaz|class | probably a thinko when I ported the integration code :1~ | 08:33 |
| smspillaz|class | pitti: right, compiz is playing with those keys :] | 08:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, auto-raise is false in a guest session for me | 08:34 |
| smspillaz|class | tag the bug gsettings and I'll fix it | 08:34 |
| pitti | seb128: right | 08:34 |
| smspillaz|class | I wasn't able to write an autotest suite for the integration code [no time] | 08:34 |
| seb128 | smspillaz|class, why would it write those keys at all if you don't use ccsm? | 08:34 |
| pitti | seb128: so next time I'll check if it really resets the key bindings, or just sets them to a different value | 08:35 |
| pitti | seb128: as for the autoraise key, that can't be a reset, it must actually set the key to true (for whatever strange reason) | 08:36 |
| pitti | could it be that there is some permanent gconf migration going on, and I have some gconf settings somewhere? | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, I get you can edit the schemas and put a weird default value (and run the glib-compile-schemas) helper for that | 08:36 |
| smspillaz|class | seb128: it just synchronizes keys | 08:37 |
| seb128 | smspillaz|class, synchronize with what? | 08:37 |
| smspillaz|class | seb128: there are some gnome keys that it synchronizes with each other for non-trivial reasons | 08:37 |
| smspillaz|class | but let me have a look into it | 08:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:37 |
| smspillaz|class | seb128: anyways, please tag any such regressions with "gsettings" | 08:38 |
| MCR1 | this fix is also key-related and needs approval: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge.fix-hardcoded-keys-part1/+merge/121545 | 08:38 |
| pitti | I did use ccsm in the past for some bits (configuring FFM mostly) | 08:38 |
| pitti | smspillaz|class: I'll tag my bug | 08:38 |
| smspillaz|class | I expected there might be a few, I had to rush the integration code | 08:38 |
| seb128 | smspillaz|class, done | 08:38 |
| smspillaz|class | pitti: btw, FFM is not a supported usecase :] | 08:38 |
| pitti | smspillaz|class: well, but changing key bindings in g-c-c certainly is? | 08:38 |
| smspillaz|class | sure, just keep that in mind | 08:39 |
| smspillaz|class | the bug priority will likely be downgraded | 08:39 |
| pitti | smspillaz|class: FFM is the one thing that never broke during this, just my keybindings and enabling autoraise | 08:39 |
| smspillaz|class | sure | 08:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, gsettings-data-convert --dry-run --file /usr/lib/compiz/migration/compiz-profile-active-Default.convert | 08:39 |
| smspillaz|class | just letting you know :1~ | 08:39 |
| smspillaz|class | :] | 08:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, does that work or hit a schemas bug? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | smspillaz|class, btw are the .convert upstream or ubuntu packaging stuff? | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: no error | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: and it seems to get the right values (after I set them in g-c-c) | 08:40 |
| pitti | Set key 'maximize' to string '<Super>Up' | 08:40 |
| pitti | Set key 'unmaximize' to string '<Super>Down' | 08:40 |
| pitti | Set key 'lower' to string '<Alt>b' | 08:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, so it's not likely the migration running over again and screwing your values | 08:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, does that include auto-raise? | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128: no, the only hit of "raise" is the 'raise' keybinding | 08:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, in fact auto-raise is migrated by /usr/share/GConf/gsettings/wm-schemas.convert | 08:43 |
| seb128 | which I guess is writen as migrated in .local/share/gsettings-data-convert for you | 08:43 |
| seb128 | e.g has been migrated and will not be again | 08:44 |
| pitti | confirmed | 08:45 |
| * pitti loves the word "téléchargement" | 08:46 | |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, running your desktop in french? | 08:46 |
| pitti | oui | 08:47 |
| pitti | err | 08:47 |
| pitti | j'aime le mots "téléchargement" | 08:47 |
| pitti | "le mot" | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, good thanks you, how are you? no rain today yet? :p | 09:08 |
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| chrisccoulson | seb128, heh, it's sunny at the moment | 09:08 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, can't you use your phone as a modem btw? | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure how long that's going to last though ;) | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i tried that too, and that also didn't work | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems everything is regressing in quantal ;) | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | my touchpad doesn't work properly either | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | although, that is bug 1041594 | 09:09 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1041594 in linux "Edge scrolling on touchpad broken since the upgrade to 3.5.0-11" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041594 | 09:09 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, boot a precise kernel? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you probably still have it installed since we never clean those :p | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i'm currently using the 3.5.0-10 quantal kernel, which works fine | 09:14 |
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| Sweetsha1k | seb128: "13:47 <@pmladek> caolan: 3.6.1 should go out tomorrow if nothing happens; so it is basically done" <- we have a ppa build for that, but I will prepare one for quantal-proposed today, okay? | 11:50 |
| seb128 | Sweetsha1k, works for me | 11:51 |
| chrisccoulson | awesome, i've got all of the ffox/tb branches all ready for the next set of releases, by lunchtime :) | 12:02 |
| chrisccoulson | can i haz 6 weeks off now? ;) | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | if you dont need them to upload through your 3G :) | 12:02 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, chinstrap ;) | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | haha | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | cheater ! | 12:02 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, are you done with your workitems? do we have overlay scrollbars yet? ;-) | 12:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got the next set of releases all ready before we've even got the current one out ;) | 12:03 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, hah :) | 12:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i knew there was something else!" | 12:03 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:03 |
| chrisccoulson | whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 12:32 |
| chrisccoulson | the upgrade wants to remove vim! | 12:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, welcome to the world of emacs! | 12:32 |
| * pitti gets the torches ready | 12:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 12:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's firefox's fault right? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:34 |
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| chrisccoulson | heh | 12:37 |
| chrisccoulson | of course ;) | 12:37 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, you have sent out the reminder but it seems that you have forgotten to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-08-28 | 12:56 |
| chrisccoulson | does http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship/review/ work for anyone else? | 12:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i just keep getting looped back to the login page | 12:57 |
| tkamppeter | chrisccoulson, same for me. | 13:00 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, tkamppeter: it's not supposed to work, jasoncwarner made an error with his email, it's only available to ~uds-organizers | 13:02 |
| chrisccoulson | aha | 13:03 |
| seb128 | you should tell jasoncwarner_ (or me) if you want somebody added or voted | 13:03 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, oh yeah, I forgot, seems like kenvandine just did it | 13:03 |
| kenvandine | ? | 13:03 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine, mterry, good morning ;-) | 13:03 |
| kenvandine | create the page? | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | good morning | 13:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, <tkamppeter> seb128, you have sent out the reminder but it seems that you have forgotten to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-08-28 | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 13:04 |
| * kenvandine took matters in his own hands | 13:04 | |
| kenvandine | :-p | 13:04 |
| seb128 | thanks man ;-) | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | np | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i think our bugs are related | 13:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I told you! ;-) | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | or rather the one you found is causing mine | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | but i think there is a bug in LMM too :) | 13:05 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is that xchat being buggy, did you figure out? | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | so here's what i think is happening | 13:05 |
| * seb128 listen | 13:05 | |
| kenvandine | when i focus the chat it calls remove_source on one of the indicators | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | for the one xchat says is focused | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | at the same time, it is clearing the indicator i clicked on | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | so removing that one | 13:05 |
| seb128 | oh, that disconnect the signal? | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | i think the one i am not clicking on, is sometimes not getting removed | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | or that | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | that makes more sense though | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | so i think that is why when we click on the other one | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | we don't get the callback | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | because of xchat | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | i can't figure that part out though | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | i don't see how that could have anything to do with our code | 13:07 |
| kenvandine | puzzling | 13:07 |
| seb128 | yeah, me neither | 13:07 |
| seb128 | but you said it was working before those updates? | 13:07 |
| kenvandine | yes | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | i checked last night | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | in precise | 13:08 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, under the sponsorship applications should be Kai-Uwe Behrmann, one of the two most important people (together with Richard Hughes) for color management under Linux. I would very much like if he gets funded to get to UDS. | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | i queued up 5 indicators | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | and went through them | 13:08 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, ok, thanks | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | they all worked | 13:08 |
| tkamppeter | kenvandine, thanks for setting up the page. | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | bo | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | np | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 13:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, on quantal how often does it not work? does the "not work" only concerns the last "active" channel (e.g the one that xchat consider selected wrongly and which leads to a source being cleared when it should not)? | 13:11 |
| kenvandine | at least 50% | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | seb128, but i really can't see why | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | it's very bazaar | 13:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, indeed :-( | 13:13 |
| seb128 | ok, channel, if you feel adventurous: | 13:13 |
| seb128 | <Mirv> https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/release updated, testing welcome although do note there are already a bunch of known bugs so check for duplicates | 13:13 |
| seb128 | 13:14 | |
| seb128 | that's the ffe unity,compiz-gles candidate stack | 13:14 |
| seb128 | works fine out of minor details for me | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | and webapps right? | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 13:14 |
| seb128 | but having extra testing would probably be welcome | 13:14 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you wish :p | 13:14 |
| * ogra_ would love to help testing if there were any arm packages :/ | 13:16 | |
| seb128 | ogra_, do you have a non virtual ppa to throw those sources at? | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | especially since i just uploaded the (hopefully) final fix for our driver | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | seb128, oh, indeed i should just be able to copy them to the canonical-arm ppa | 13:17 |
| seb128 | ogra_, you should yes | 13:17 |
| seb128 | ogra_, that would be great if you could try that ;-) | 13:17 |
| ogra_ | seb128, argh | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | if the packager would have actually allowed any arm arches in debian/control this would actually have worked :( | 13:21 |
| seb128 | ogra_, unity you mean? | 13:22 |
| * ogra_ glares at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-arm-dev/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_state=pending .... nux, unity, compiz and bamf are all waiting for amd64 and i386 builds now | 13:22 | |
| seb128 | ogra_, I guess that's part of the workaround that was used by then when gles was not ready yet and nobody wanted to update the compiz patch | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | yep | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | might be | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | or they just got tired of getting failure mails for the meissing arches | 13:23 |
| ogra_ | *missin | 13:23 |
| ogra_ | bah | 13:23 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I'm pretty sure Didier did that before a2 or a3 because he needed to land the updates and nobody wanted to update the gles patch | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | well, cant test then ... at least not without fiddling with the pakages which i dont have time for right now | 13:25 |
| seb128 | ogra_, right, I will get that fixed and ping you for a new ppa copy | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | seb128, great, else i can do it tomorrow myself | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | just not today | 13:27 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ok, let's see how things go | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | oh, fun amd the copied packages actually FTBFS on i368 | 13:39 |
| seb128 | ogra_, yeah, their build-depends are not well versioned, you need the new bamf and nux | 13:39 |
| ogra_ | which are in the same PPA (and copied) ... but if they arent versioned it wont o into dep-wait indeed | 13:40 |
| seb128 | right | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | hmpf, somehow my g key doesnt like me on that new kbd | 13:40 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, bugger, just updated my thunderbird nightly and it crashes every time i click on a source in the messaging indicator | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | that didn't happen this morning | 13:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, :-( | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: btw if you want I can help making your 3G dongle work ;) | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, this one is going to be an absolute joy to debug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171850/ | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | crashes deep in the JS engine ;) | 14:03 |
| seb128 | :-( | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, oh, i'm not sure what's going on with that. i've rebooted again in to the 3.5.0-10 kernel, and it worked again :/ | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems quite random | 14:03 |
| cyphermox | ok | 14:04 |
| cyphermox | did you use a different usb port? | 14:04 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, it's an internal 3G card | 14:04 |
| cyphermox | I have at least one dongle that refuses to work unless I use my USB 3.0 port | 14:04 |
| cyphermox | ah | 14:04 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: internal 3G from the thinkpads? the Gobi horror? | 14:04 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, it's one of these: http://search.dell.co.uk/1/2/128267-mobile-broadband-internal-dell-wireless-5540-card-3g-hsdpa-sim-not-included-kit.html | 14:09 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, man, there is a huge black cloud moving over here | 14:10 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: do tell, how is fiber supposed to be affected by rain? :) | 14:11 |
| Mirv | ogra_: what did you discuss about compiz gles on arm? (I only joined after) | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, the bit from the cabinet to my house is still copper ;) | 14:13 |
| Mirv | ogra_: I'm compiling atm on arm without the patch just to see if the current problem is merely packaging | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | (but the cabinet is pretty much a stone-throw away from the house) | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | Mirv, seb128 called for testers, and i'm just about to be done to have the pandaboard GLES driver ready for quantal ... | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | so i would have tested | 14:14 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: but it's wires? is it raining directly on the exposed wire? | 14:14 |
| Mirv | ogra_: ah, ok, so no testing yet. if it compiles for me, I'll update the packaging so that also staging & friends will work again on ARM | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | awesome, thanks | 14:14 |
| cyphermox | seb128: still looking at pango for the lucid->precise upgrade | 14:14 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ok | 14:15 |
| cyphermox | seb128: I think I found the issue, but I'm not sure how to fix it | 14:15 |
| seb128 | what is it? | 14:15 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, i'm not sure where the rain gets in yet, although the cable that goes from my house across the road to the telegraph pole is probably a good bet :) | 14:15 |
| cyphermox | seb128: the libpango1.0-0.modules file moves from a non-multiarch dir to a multiarch dir | 14:16 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: wow :( | 14:16 |
| cyphermox | seb128: problem is the actual execution; I'll do one more upgrade test to look at what happens to those files and figure out if it could just be a symlink added from /usr/lib/pango to /usr/lib/$arch/pango maybe | 14:17 |
| pitti | bonne nuit! | 14:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, bonne après-midi | 14:20 |
| cyphermox | (or copying the new one in /etc/pango/pango.modules maybe) what I don't understand is why nobody noticed or filed a similar bug for another release upgrade between lucid and quantal | 14:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, c'est pas encore la nuit | 14:20 |
| cyphermox | pitti: bonne nuit! | 14:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, ou "bonne soirée" | 14:20 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, is evolution the only app having that issue? didn't the hook you did to restart the service work? | 14:21 |
| cyphermox | nah | 14:21 |
| cyphermox | *any* application started after libpango1.0-0 would be affected | 14:21 |
| cyphermox | but it also needs to be something that wasn't upgraded yet, or it needs to happen between the time that pango is updated and something else | 14:22 |
| cyphermox | (or maybe a new dialog from a running app?) | 14:22 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:23 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm, i'm gonna have to get bisecting | 14:32 |
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| mvo | pitti: I addressed the aptdaemon points you raised, would be great if you could have a look at the MP again at some point :) | 15:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, Sweetshark, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-08-28 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet | 15:30 |
| mterry | That was a quick meeting! :) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, I was wondering if I was still online, or if anyone was working today | 15:45 |
| seb128 | usually I get at least a bunch of "hey, no topic from me" replies | 15:45 |
| mterry | hey, no topic from me | 15:45 |
| robru | seb128, work? nah | 15:45 |
| seb128 | mterry, ;-) | 15:46 |
| robru | seb128, barry and I are working hard on this port, there's a lot done but also a lot left to do. | 15:46 |
| seb128 | robru, yeah, what is this work thing everybody keeps talking about, right? ;-) | 15:46 |
| robru | ;-) | 15:46 |
| Sweetsha1k | seb128: my brother works in climate simulation (in cars, planes etc.). One day his boss called him, he recognized the number and answered the phone with: "$COMPANYNAME, we simulate work!' | 15:48 |
| robru | lol | 15:48 |
| Sweetsha1k | le boss was not amused ... and my brother made the perfect trollface. | 15:48 |
| jbicha | ricotz: you're working on the gdm changelog? | 15:58 |
| micahg | seb128: are we sticking with glew 1.8 for quantal? | 15:58 |
| seb128 | micahg, I would think so, would you prefer to go for 1.9? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | Sweetsha1k, lol | 16:01 |
| micahg | seb128: no, no preference, but I won't bother with 1.5, 1.6, and 1.7 rebuilds if we're not sticking with 1.8 :) | 16:01 |
| seb128 | we do plan to stick with 1.8 | 16:01 |
| micahg | ok, sounds good, thanks | 16:01 |
| jbicha | ricotz: or I could just diff fta's changelog & credit you with what's changed | 16:02 |
| ricotz | jbicha, i updated the changelog (just drop the file which sneaked in) | 16:03 |
| ricotz | jbicha, but give is some testing before you consider pushing it | 16:03 |
| ricotz | *it | 16:03 |
| jbicha | ricotz: yeah I've been testing it, except for the one major issue with gdm-fallback-mode I emailed you about, things are working well | 16:05 |
| jbicha | it also took me a bit of effort to even trigger fallback mode, but I'm going to try reporting that bug to GNOME | 16:06 |
| ricotz | jbicha, you emailed me before i uploaded it, and your patch wasnt right if you used it | 16:06 |
| jbicha | I've been using your 0827 ricotz0 build this morning | 16:08 |
| ricotz | jbicha, ok | 16:09 |
| ricotz | didnt see that issue | 16:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did you forgot to push your g-c-c update? | 16:13 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's UNRELEASED in the vcs | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | quantal is unreleased too :P | 16:14 |
| jbicha | seb128: done, GNOME wasn't interested in my patch by the way | 16:14 |
| seb128 | jbicha, why not? too technical? | 16:15 |
| jbicha | they don't want terminal getting special treatment | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:15 |
| seb128 | well I'm unsure about the ui bit for it | 16:15 |
| seb128 | it might be enough to have it in g-s-d | 16:16 |
| Sweetsha1k | seb128: hmmm, the new libreoffice package is just as bad -- if not worse -- wrt unitymenus. | 16:30 |
| seb128 | Sweetsha1k, "new", you got an update? what changed in good or bad? | 16:31 |
| chrisccoulson | lololololol @ https://twitter.com/paul_irish/status/240479498112475136 | 16:34 |
| Sweetsha1k | seb128: well, afernandez asked be for an updated build. However, I see lots of menus having 'EMPTY STRING' as label now, and bug 1041354 isnt solved at all. | 16:35 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1041354 in libreoffice "unity-panel-service since yesterday uses ~100% CPU when libreoffice-gtk is installed and enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041354 | 16:35 |
| seb128 | desrt, travelling I guess? | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | it's typical. when i want it to rain, it stays dry | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | never mind, the forecast for tomorrow is rain for the whole working day | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | want to end your day early eh ? | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd best make sure my 3G is working properly then :) | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, no, i want to see if our line actually sounds noisier when it rains. my ISP wants to know ;) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, start complaining louder to your ISP | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | pee on it | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | "sorry, i won't be working today. i got arrested overnight for indecent exposure after following advice from ogra" | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | *g* | 16:51 |
| seb128 | jbicha, you guys go the opposite direction from us, rather than being conservative you go for git snapshots? ;-) | 16:53 |
| seb128 | gdm (3.5.90+git20120827.b558e179-0ubuntu1) quantal; urgency=low | 16:53 |
| seb128 | " * TODO: the following Ubuntu patches need to be ported:" | 16:53 |
| seb128 | not cool :-( | 16:53 |
| jbicha | seb128: just be glad we're not responsible for nautilus | 16:53 |
| seb128 | jbicha, lol | 16:54 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I wouldn't be woried, you couldn't break it over what upstream has done :p | 16:54 |
| jbicha | guest session really ought to be built into GNOME | 16:58 |
| Sweetsha1k | oh, nautilus is still such a mess? I remember it from back in the days ... | 16:58 |
| jbicha | guest session was mentioned this morning as a workaround for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676577 | 16:59 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 676577 in general "There is not a place for the user to set Privacy or Security related options" [Enhancement,New] | 16:59 |
| mterry | kenvandine, I was thinking of rolling a new light-themes (I committed a unity-greeter-specific change there). Any objection? | 17:16 |
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| === ogra is now known as ogra_ | ||
| kenvandine | mterry, nope | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | go for it | 18:02 |
| mterry | kenvandine, done | 18:24 |
| jbicha | ricotz: did you know that the gdm login screen looks different if you were still using gnome-shell 3.5.4? | 18:35 |
| jbicha | it also looks like gdm won't load if gnome-shell isn't installed (probably part of why Debian force gdm-fallback-mode) | 18:35 |
| jbicha | so I'm going to bump gnome-shell to a depends | 18:37 |
| micahg | that'll be a fun upgrade :), if gdm isn't removed on upgrade from lucid -> precise, when you upgrade to quantal you get gnome-shell | 18:38 |
| micahg | s/unity-2d/gnome-shell/ :) | 18:38 |
| jbicha | micahg: yeah I don't think the gdm developers have tried running gdm without gnome-shell :| | 18:39 |
| chrisccoulson | getting gnome-shell after the upgrade wouldn't be the end of the world ;) | 18:41 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, the crash i see is definitely a thunderbird regression (in nightly), and not my addon. so it doesn't affect quantal (yet) ;) | 18:44 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, \o/ | 18:44 |
| chrisccoulson | it's taking agest to bisect though because there are so many commits which touch the build system and trigger a full rebuild | 18:45 |
| chrisccoulson | which is a pain | 18:45 |
| jbicha | ricotz: it looks like lightdm works with gnome-shell as long as gdm is installed, Switch Session won't work and if you lock your screen you can't unlock it... | 18:45 |
| jbicha | Switch Session does nothing | 18:45 |
| seb128 | jbicha, you should talk to robert_ancell about getting lightdm to support those | 18:45 |
| * micahg is happy that his latest round of Firefox/Thunderbird crashes appear to have been due to a bad stick of TAM | 18:46 | |
| micahg | *RAM | 18:46 |
| seb128 | it seems like the GNOME guys are settings for a "GNOME or nothing" which is a bit annoying | 18:46 |
| seb128 | I guess at some point it will be impossible to get GNOME for most distros | 18:46 |
| dobey | s/GNOME/Fedora/ | 18:49 |
| seb128 | yeah, there is a bit of that... | 18:49 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's a good move being done for GNOME as a project and community though | 18:50 |
| seb128 | they move to "let's fix the stack" to "we define the stack and everybody else can go play somewhere else" | 18:50 |
| dobey | it seems a bit overzealous, ideological, and utopian; the whole "GNOME OS" thing | 18:50 |
| seb128 | things like lock screen or login manager should be a fdo interface | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | gah, ffs @ bug 1042894 | 18:51 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1042894 in thunderbird "Thunderbird hangs at startup only on laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042894 | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | 2 copies of eds being loaded? | 18:51 |
| seb128 | they moved from ... to* | 18:51 |
| cyphermox | O.o? | 18:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, aka the pre-upgrade version is still running and user didn't restart? | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, actually, looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/113859523/Extensions.txt, i suspect that the couchdb addon loads an old eds ABI | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i should just kill that entirely | 18:53 |
| seb128 | it's about time ;-) | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, i bet that's the reason for bug 1040839 too | 18:55 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1040839 in evolution-data-server "Thunderbird hangs accessing eds on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040839 | 18:55 |
| chrisccoulson | yay @ the third item on http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/15.0/releasenotes/ ;) | 18:58 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 18:58 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, hello | 19:09 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, I believe I've been hitting bug 932900, could you enlighten me with ideas on how to figure out if it's the same problem? | 19:10 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 932900 in mesa "Unity freeze, crashes when trying to restart - intel_do_flush_locked failed: Input/output error" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932900 | 19:10 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: how are you deciding which account plugins should be recommends and which should be suggests? | 19:21 |
| jbicha | will there be a way in the UI for users to install additional plugins? | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | just with software center i guess | 19:22 |
| jbicha | ok, should IRC be installed by default? | 19:22 |
| kenvandine | seb128 and i did a quick brain storm to pick what is there | 19:22 |
| kenvandine | no, telepathy-idle isn't | 19:22 |
| seb128 | jbicha, @IRC: no | 19:23 |
| seb128 | if users want IRC they are better served getting an IRC client from s-c | 19:23 |
| seb128 | im client doing IRC are poor choices | 19:23 |
| seb128 | mho | 19:23 |
| seb128 | imho | 19:23 |
| mterry | chrisccoulson, nice re: U1 in thunderbird | 19:23 |
| jbicha | so connecting to #ubuntu requires installing extra software? | 19:24 |
| seb128 | so far yes, is #ubuntu an user recommended contact point? | 19:24 |
| seb128 | we should maybe figure a way to web proxy there... | 19:24 |
| jbicha | it's listed at http://www.ubuntu.com/support | 19:25 |
| seb128 | IRC stays a really specialized medium, look at the number of people on IRC compared to e.g forums or askubuntu | 19:25 |
| seb128 | imho we should better direct user to those sites | 19:25 |
| seb128 | (just my opinion | 19:26 |
| seb128 | ups | 19:26 |
| * micahg would still be using pidgin for IRC if it wasn't for the freenode flood issue I could never track down | 19:27 | |
| bryceh | Ursinha, anything in /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state attached ? | 19:28 |
| micahg | there's http://webchat.freenode.net/ also | 19:28 |
| micahg | seb128: maybe a .desktop file linking to ^^ if #ubuntu is useful | 19:29 |
| micahg | or whatever the URL with the channel in it would be | 19:29 |
| * mterry is going afk for a bit | 19:30 | |
| seb128 | jbicha as being a documentation team member is probably better placed that me to reply | 19:30 |
| kenvandine | seb128, where is the packaging branch for unity staging? | 19:30 |
| seb128 | but I don't think IRC is a good end user recommendation | 19:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ~/staging/unity/ubuntu | 19:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, :-p | 19:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, there is none, what's up? | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | i am having to patch unity, and want to base it off staging for now | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | since it has all the previews stuff and all | 19:31 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, there's nothing in /sys/kernel/debug | 19:34 |
| Ursinha | (sorry, was answering the door) | 19:34 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, are you able to reproduce the bug deliberately? | 19:35 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, whenever I try to unity --replace, it gives me that error message | 19:35 |
| Ursinha | I'm right now using metacity --replace to be able to talk to you here | 19:36 |
| bryceh | ok good | 19:36 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, ssh into your system from another one and then do unity --replace to lock the system up. Then, from ssh collect /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state and post to the bug | 19:37 |
| bryceh | if you have 'IPEHR: 0x7a000002' in that file, then you probably have the same bug | 19:38 |
| Ursinha | it doesn't exactly lock, it becomes impossible to move windows or use alt-tab | 19:39 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, ok interesting. Still, reproduce that failure case and we can verify whether or not it's a gpu lockup | 19:39 |
| Ursinha | ok, a moment | 19:39 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, here's the output of unity --replace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1172430/ | 19:42 |
| Ursinha | there you go, the debug file is there | 19:43 |
| Ursinha | let me look for the specific thing you said | 19:43 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, no, I see only 'IPEHR: 0x00000000' in i915_error_state | 19:44 |
| Ursinha | do you want me to attach it to that same bug, or should I open another? | 19:45 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, there's several IPEHR's in the debug file; try grep IPEHR /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state | 19:46 |
| bryceh | if that still results in just zeros, then yeah let's get a new bug filed about that. | 19:47 |
| Ursinha | I did that, it returned three, all of them like this one | 19:47 |
| bryceh | hm, ok | 19:47 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, ok, so how do I file the perfect bug? :) | 19:49 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, against which package should I file this bug? | 19:58 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, for now file it against xorg as usual. ubuntu-bug xorg. Include your unity --replace output, the i915_error_state file, and dmesg | 20:02 |
| Ursinha | I see some stacktraces on dmesg | 20:03 |
| Ursinha | will do, just a moment | 20:03 |
| bryceh | ho ho! that's a good sign | 20:03 |
| Ursinha | :) | 20:03 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, fwiw I'm not familiar with the "intel_do_flush_locked failed" error message but it sort of sounds like a generic "I couldn't talk to the gpu" message, in which case that may be misleading you to think you have bug #932900 when it could be something different entirely | 20:04 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 932900 in mesa "Unity freeze, crashes when trying to restart - intel_do_flush_locked failed: Input/output error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932900 | 20:04 |
| Ursinha | right | 20:05 |
| Ursinha | do you know what is that IPEHR value? | 20:05 |
| bryceh | IPEHR: 0x7******* errors typically indicate a fault in the renderer (mesa) | 20:07 |
| bryceh | so Giovanni's bug looks to be mesa related. Yours is sounding more like the kernel, if you're getting traces in dmesg | 20:08 |
| Ursinha | right, this is cool | 20:09 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, oh I forgot to ask, what video card you are on? | 20:11 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, it's an intel generic one, I have a lenovo x220 | 20:15 |
| * Ursinha is looking for specifics | 20:16 | |
| bryceh | Ursinha, ok intel generic's sufficient to know | 20:19 |
| tjaalton | Ursinha: is this after you resume from suspend? | 20:19 |
| Ursinha | tjaalton, nope, I was moving windows from one side to another and it happened | 20:20 |
| Ursinha | I meant, the first crash, the unity --replace issue I can reproduce consistently at this moment | 20:20 |
| tjaalton | ok, bug 966744 was the one I was after | 20:20 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 966744 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] Resume from suspend leaves me with black screen or a screen of the desktop before it suspended. Compiz hung in intel_update_renderbuffers() from intel_prepare_render() from brw_draw_prims()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966744 | 20:20 |
| tjaalton | nevermind then :) | 20:21 |
| Ursinha | :) | 20:21 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, maybe it's worth mentioning the first crash happened when I was using an external monitor in a dock? | 20:24 |
| Ursinha | I'm undocked now | 20:24 |
| Ursinha | hmm. | 20:36 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, there are two folders in /sys/kernel/debug/dri/: 0 and 64 | 20:36 |
| Ursinha | I just noticed the i915_error_state in the 0 one is empty | 20:37 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, 0 is the one to use | 20:37 |
| Ursinha | the 64 one has the IPEHR info, the other one is empty... do you know why is that? | 20:38 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, docking is worth mentioning, although hard to say at this point if it's relevant | 20:38 |
| bryceh | I'm not sure why there is a 64 dir. | 20:39 |
| Ursinha | these crashes seem rather old. none of these files were touched today, but Aug. 21 -- I've been having these for a while, was lucky to find that bug on a google search | 20:41 |
| mterry | Rhythmbox seems broken | 20:44 |
| mterry | due to U1 plugin... | 20:44 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, bug 1042947 | 20:51 |
| bryceh | thx | 20:51 |
| Ursinha | thanks for the pointers, bryceh | 20:51 |
| bryceh | sure | 20:53 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, Uname: Linux 3.4.0-030400rc4-generic - do you have a non-standard kernel installed by chance? | 20:56 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, I installed this a while ago because of another bug that I don't recall right now, it was asked to test with a newer kernel package than the default... will have to dig a bit | 20:57 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, hmm [575708.158540] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung | 21:01 |
| bryceh | [575708.158545] [drm] capturing error event; look for more information in /debug/dri/0/i915_error_state | 21:01 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, so seems you *are* having a gpu lockup but guess it's resetting the gpu and continuing. | 21:01 |
| bryceh | the i915_drv.c:398 gen6_gt_check_fifodbg warnings seem pertinent | 21:02 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, hm. why that error file is empty I don't know | 21:02 |
| Ursinha | bryceh, is there anything I could do to help debugging the issue? | 21:02 |
| Ursinha | installing a package, a procedure or something | 21:03 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, when the gpu is reset, that file is zero'd out | 21:07 |
| Ursinha | oh, right | 21:07 |
| bryceh | the kernel will try to reset the gpu when it notices it gets locked, which appears to be what's happening here | 21:07 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, there is a gpu lockup detector udev rule which is turned off in precise that you could try turning back on | 21:08 |
| Ursinha | sure | 21:08 |
| bryceh | SUBSYSTEM=="drm", ACTION=="change", ENV{RESET}=="1", RUN+="/usr/share/apport/apport-gpu-error-intel.p | 21:09 |
| bryceh | y" | 21:09 |
| bryceh | that's the rule that's needed | 21:09 |
| bryceh | in xdiagnose-2.5.2/debian/xdiagnose.udev it is commented out | 21:10 |
| bryceh | grab that package, uncomment the line, rebuild, install, (reboot?) and that should theoretically enable the gpu error collector | 21:10 |
| Ursinha | all right, will do that now | 21:12 |
| bryceh | Ursinha, since you're able to repro this fairly easily, another thing I'd like you to try is boot to the current stock precise kernel and repro it with that. | 21:16 |
| Ursinha | right | 21:16 |
| bryceh | if this ends up just being a flaw in one of the interim mainline kernels, might not be worth your time to do a lot of debugging on it | 21:16 |
| Ursinha | makes sense | 21:16 |
| Ursinha | okay, the rule is there, I'll let you know if anything happens bryceh | 21:25 |
| Ursinha | thanks again! | 21:25 |
| bryceh | great, good luck | 21:25 |
| Ursinha | thanks | 21:25 |
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| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, if I have a machine with the webapps PPA, and I distupgrade it to Quantal, I should be fine right? don't need to do anything special first? | 21:54 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, not sure about quantal, ken said he had unity segfaulting when updating to unity staging the other dya | 21:56 |
| seb128 | day | 21:56 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, the webapp abi changed slightly between their ppa and the official version that landed apparently | 21:56 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128,well, a dist-upgrade should remove the PPA version and install the one in archives, right? | 21:57 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, if the archive version are > ppa | 21:57 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmmm | 21:57 |
| seb128 | which usually they are not | 21:57 |
| seb128 | otherwise you couldn't install the ppa packages | 21:57 |
| rickspencer3 | well, at some point the archive will pass the PPA, and I'll be good | 21:57 |
| seb128 | yeah, "some point" ;-) | 21:58 |
| rickspencer3 | well, I'm on Precise on this machine | 21:58 |
| rickspencer3 | I am going to move it to Quantal now | 21:58 |
| seb128 | not sure what's their versioning in thar regard | 21:58 |
| rickspencer3 | I should keep one on Precise, I suppose, but I can't help myself | 21:58 |
| seb128 | but I would recommend to ppa-purge first | 21:58 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 21:58 |
| rickspencer3 | will do | 21:58 |
| seb128 | keeping a machine on precise is good btw ;-) | 21:59 |
| seb128 | I upgraded recently but I miss my precise :p | 21:59 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 21:59 |
| rickspencer3 | maybe I should just keep this one Precise | 21:59 |
| * rickspencer3 ponders | 21:59 | |
| jasoncwarner_ | morning everyone. bryceh TheMuso RAOF robert_ancell meeting reminder. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-08-28 please update with your items and add any agenda items you want to talk about. | 22:52 |
| bryceh | \o/ | 22:52 |
| robert_ancell | bryceh, you are way too happy about meetings | 22:54 |
| bryceh | robert_ancell, heh | 22:54 |
| bryceh | robert_ancell, at least it's a nice break from looking at X crashes and GPU lockups | 22:54 |
| robert_ancell | bryceh, :) | 22:56 |
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