| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| christel | rawr | 06:51 |
|---|---|---|
| diplo | Morning all | 07:31 |
| christel | lo diplo | 07:31 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 07:34 |
| === KillerJim|Away is now known as KillerJim | ||
| diplo | Morning christel / brobostigon : Good weekends ? | 07:48 |
| brobostigon | morning diplo | 07:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | morning all. | 08:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Who wants to rate my rack? http://ratemyspicerack.com/opensourcerer/ | 08:02 |
| popey | morning | 08:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lo popey | 08:03 |
| brobostigon | morning TheOpenSourcerer and popey | 08:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | how's it going brobostigon? | 08:06 |
| brobostigon | TheOpenSourcerer: not so hot. and you? | 08:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'm good thanks. Had a great - and very hot - weekend (West Dean Chilli Fiesta). | 08:08 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:08 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:09 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm :) | 08:09 |
| popey | http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/blackberry-playbook-tablet-pc-64-gb-129-currys-1294090 cheap tab... | 08:13 |
| Oli | popey: Yeah I'm trying to weigh it up against a nexus 7 | 08:19 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Think the Playbook is a dead duck imho | 08:20 |
| brobostigon | qnx is as smooth as a baby bottom though. and quite stable. | 08:21 |
| popey | so would android be with zero apps | 08:22 |
| Oli | The thing swaying me towards a N7 is that I have an Android phone with a couple of dozen paid apps that would benefit from being run on a tablet. | 08:23 |
| Oli | But if I only wanted something to wheel around a ton of media, the Playbook would win hands down. | 08:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I have a customer that bought into the Playbook and regretted it ever since. | 08:24 |
| Oli | Well you would if you paid full price before BB went postal on it. | 08:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | yeah quite. | 08:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Same with the HP TP. | 08:25 |
| Oli | Same with the HP WebOS stu.... beat me to it :) | 08:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 08:25 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer has a TP | 08:25 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | But it only cost £100 | 08:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | WebOS is actually quite nice to use but as popey said with no apps it's not terribly useful. | 08:26 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I got a free Galaxy Tab 10.1 with my S3 and that is used all the time now. | 08:26 |
| diplo | Blimey, a free tablet with a phone.. not a bad deal | 08:27 |
| diplo | :) | 08:27 |
| Oli | Yeah, I had a N900. I'm familiar with the Good-OS—Awful-Support model. | 08:27 |
| Oli | *have. I have a N900. Not used for anything more than an in-car iPod these days. | 08:28 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | diplo: It was a great deal. the first 1000 customers with CPW for the S3 when it launched. | 08:28 |
| Oli | How much did you end up paying for the S3 though? | 08:28 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | £36/m | 08:28 |
| Oli | I'll give you a free datacenter if you pay me a few billion pounds for a laptop. | 08:29 |
| mattt | i'd like one of the 7" tabs | 08:29 |
| * popey hugs ipad | 08:29 | |
| diplo | mattt: The Nexus 7 ? | 08:29 |
| Oli | popey: Get that filth out of here. | 08:29 |
| popey | :) | 08:30 |
| mattt | diplo: no, samsung :) | 08:30 |
| mattt | i'd happily take the nexus too tho | 08:30 |
| diplo | I was going to ask in here later when it got busy what tabs people had | 08:31 |
| Oli | I don't really understand the allure of the SGTs. They're ancient, expensive and don't use the same screen tech as the phones do. | 08:31 |
| diplo | I don't have a lot of money and the Nexus 7 is really tempting, but don't know anyone who has one yet | 08:31 |
| * brobostigon hugs his nexus7. | 08:32 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | diplo: Plenty of peeps on Twitter. | 08:33 |
| * AlanBell wonders how well the playbook plays with Ubuntu for music transfer stuff | 08:33 | |
| oimon | i've already seen more nexus 7s than i've seen ipads | 08:33 |
| diplo | yeah just people I feel I 'know' a bit better i guess | 08:34 |
| mattt | diplo: same | 08:34 |
| mattt | diplo: only thing i'm concerned with is ending up with something inferior (and useless) like a netbook | 08:34 |
| oimon | maybe the price made it an impulse purcahse for many | 08:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | any piece of "gadget" tech will be obsolete in a couple of years. | 08:35 |
| oimon | or quicker if lots of people on here have it (eee pc, joggler, rasp pi ) | 08:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | yeah. | 08:37 |
| diplo | As long as it works well I'm fine, then it's the decision of 8/16GB :) | 08:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's just a question of "preparing" yourself for the short lifespan of your shiny new toy. | 08:39 |
| popey | yay, sophie has no ballet on saturday so i can go camping earlier in the day | 08:39 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer is off to Swansea for a golf and drinking weekend on Fri :-) | 08:40 | |
| popey | i may go to swanage | 08:40 |
| christel | 08:42 | |
| christel | hi | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | popey: find a place to go camping with the kids | 08:42 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | There is a very nice camp site not too far away - stayed there a few years ago... http://www.theinsidepark.co.uk/ | 08:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Near Blandford | 08:43 |
| christel | 08:43 | |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! :) | 08:48 |
| popey | czajkowski, i am | 08:48 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | gunzip | 08:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ooops | 08:50 |
| * popey decompresses all over the channel | 08:52 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ewww. | 08:52 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: Up in Mumbles? | 09:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Huh daubers | 09:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ? | 09:01 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: The golfing thing :) | 09:01 |
| daubers | The only golf course near swansea I know of is on the Gower | 09:01 |
| daubers | (very nice area the Gower, and Mumbles. Swansea itself is a bit of a concrete disaster) | 09:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Oh - Dunno. Hang on. Checking email from aorganiser | 09:02 |
| diplo | daubers: Was there myself a few weeks ago | 09:02 |
| diplo | Very nice | 09:02 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: If you end up in Mumbles, go to Verdi's for ice cream. Best. Ice. Cream. Ever. | 09:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Pennard GC, Gower G.C, Langland Bay GC | 09:04 |
| daubers | Yep, all on the Gower :) | 09:04 |
| daubers | Langland Bay is really nice. Normally full of surfers and kite surfers | 09:05 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Cool. | 09:05 |
| * daubers spent many days he should have been in lectures on the various beaches around the Gower | 09:06 | |
| AlanBell | I have been to the gower. Worst holiday evar. | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | not the fault of the place as such (apart from the dire mobile reception) | 09:16 |
| daubers | heh, they didn't really have mobiles in the 70's you know | 09:16 |
| BigRedS | Anyone know of a cloudy™ service that'll slave MySQL as a sort of backup/dr thingy? So I'd set up mysql rep to it and they'd take regular dumps or do whatever's necessary to give the illusion of a robust backup? | 09:17 |
| AlanBell | verdi's is certainly the place for ice cream | 09:17 |
| BigRedS | Obvious solution is a VPS with MySQL on it, but I'm wondering how little of this can be my problem :) | 09:17 |
| diplo | BigRedS: I'd say the same thing about VPS, with our customer sites I rsync data nad mysqldump out mysql to a local work server daily | 09:18 |
| diplo | But haven't set up replication of any sort yet | 09:18 |
| AlanBell | BigRedS: I think mysql replication is pull replication, which means they have to be able to connect to the master, not the other way round | 09:20 |
| BigRedS | AlanBell: yeah | 09:20 |
| BigRedS | but that'd be work-roundable. | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | I looked at it a while back, but ended up throwing mysql dump files outbound rather than have an inbound connection | 09:21 |
| * BigRedS ponders starting a cloudy mysql backup service based on replicating other people's dbs for them | 09:21 | |
| * AlanBell ponders same. With Galcier as a back end | 09:21 | |
| BigRedS | Haha, is that any good? | 09:22 |
| BigRedS | I did a bunch of stuff with EC2 about a year ago and the thing that made me leave was the atrocious I/O | 09:22 |
| AlanBell | Glacier, Amazon's new store stuff forever service. | 09:22 |
| BigRedS | Oh, yeah, that one | 09:22 |
| BigRedS | I was thinking about the new fast-I/O thing | 09:22 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | hmm - http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-to-drop-alternate-installer-1676906.html | 09:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Could be interesting. The Alternate is often very useful when trying to install on systems with dodgy graphics or other non-standard h/w that the standard installer fails to recognise correctly. | 09:46 |
| brobostigon | interesting move, yes. | 09:46 |
| BigRedS | what? That's a dumb idea | 09:47 |
| jussi | TheOpenSourcerer: but the netboot has the same properties, no ? | 09:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | dunno jussi - not used that one. I find the Alternate very useful. Never needed netboot iirc | 09:51 |
| Oli | I wish they'd just make bigger discs for things. A 60cm diameter, dual-layer BluRay disk would store 1.4TB. | 09:51 |
| jussi | yeah, I read the thread in question here, and it seems netboot was the way to do it then. | 09:51 |
| AlanBell | well if there isn't an alternate, then maybe the standard installer will be improved to work on such systems | 09:51 |
| AlanBell | server CD will also work fine, then install ubuntu-desktop | 09:52 |
| jussi | true that | 09:52 |
| jussi | or they could just introduce tasksel on the server cd (if it isnt there already and have the desktop as one of those options) | 09:52 |
| jussi | like the ubuntu studio cd's used to have. | 09:53 |
| Oli | It's the offline low-end installs (which I gather are fairly frequent in developing countries) that are going to get hit by something like that. | 09:53 |
| Oli | They'd need to ship a separate repo-on-cd around with the desktop stuff on. Possible but harder than the current install process. | 09:54 |
| jussi | Oli: yeah, thats true enough | 09:54 |
| directhex | TheOpenSourcerer, er, no alternate installer means no net install means no more ubuntu in the office | 09:55 |
| === schwukz is now known as schwuk | ||
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:58 |
| jussi | davmor2: ! | 09:58 |
| jussi | davmor2: I see you were credited twice in the Diaspora thankyou list :D | 09:59 |
| jussi | (I assume it is you and you dont have a double...) | 09:59 |
| czajkowski | one of davmor2 is more than enough | 09:59 |
| directhex | huh, kubuntu etc will still offer D-I | 10:00 |
| jussi | hehe | 10:00 |
| arsen | having a problem with NIS/NFS, when trying to chown an existing file on NFS(v4) share to a NIS user:group, it instead changes it to nobody:nobody :/ anyone seen this? | 10:00 |
| davmor2 | jussi: I'm not even on it | 10:00 |
| jussi | oh LOL | 10:00 |
| jussi | lemme find the email - PM your email addy :D | 10:01 |
| arsen | having a problem with NIS/NFS, when trying to chown an existing file on NFS(v4) share to a NIS user:group, it instead changes it to nobody:nobody :/ anyone seen this? | 10:01 |
| popey | directhex, net installer isn't being ditched | 10:01 |
| popey | the 'mini' iso | 10:01 |
| davmor2 | jussi: I made a post on g+ thanking everyone who makes oggcamp rock even though I wasn't there, that might of been passed on by members of dis | 10:02 |
| directhex | popey, so pxeboot with d-i will still be offered? | 10:02 |
| popey | we d-i isnt going away | 10:03 |
| popey | just the big fat alternate cd | 10:03 |
| arsen | eugh silly irssi. | 10:04 |
| arsen | having a problem with NIS/NFS, when trying to chown an existing file on NFS(v4) share to a NIS user:group, it instead changes it to nobody:nobody :/ anyone seen this? | 10:04 |
| dwatkins | arsen: does the user and group exist with the same IDs on both systems? | 10:06 |
| BigRedS | diplo: exactly. | 10:06 |
| arsen | well it does via NFS, dwatkins | 10:08 |
| arsen | er, NIS, sorry. | 10:08 |
| dwatkins | arsen: and both systems allow local files to have ownership set like this? | 10:09 |
| dwatkins | i.e. they identify correctly | 10:09 |
| arsen | yeah | 10:10 |
| arsen | just tested | 10:11 |
| dwatkins | hmm, non-matching UID/GID are the only thing I can think of in this situation, arsen - unless you have options set on the filesystem in /etc/exports on the server to specify UID/GID explicitly. | 10:13 |
| arsen | hm thats what i was thinking about unmatched uid/gid, but as they're both authing successfully through NIS id of assumed that works | 10:13 |
| davmor2 | directhex: the mini.iso isn't going away | 10:13 |
| dwatkins | arsen: I assume you're checking the files with 'ls -n' | 10:16 |
| dwatkins | i.e. to show numerical UID/GID | 10:16 |
| arsen | when yuo say checking, im reading them from locally and remote via nfs - both share the same numerical id's yeah. | 10:19 |
| arsen | but the uid matches nobody:nobody on the nfs server | 10:21 |
| dwatkins | so the NFS server isn't respecting the UID you're setting. I'd check its options in /etc/exports and the daemon options too. | 10:26 |
| arsen | yeah strange (it works for 20+ other clients) | 10:27 |
| dwatkins | What's different about this one, then? | 10:27 |
| arsen | :) | 10:27 |
| dwatkins | is it definitely joined to NIS properly, for one thing? | 10:28 |
| arsen | yeah, logged in successfuly with a NIS user, nis works fine on local stuff | 10:28 |
| arsen | typically when nis isnt configured i find it will list lal files as nobody:nobody, until you set NIS a higher priority in nsswitch.conf | 10:29 |
| arsen | so following that being fixed, it pulls permissions correctly, its now just a problem when trying to apply permissions | 10:29 |
| dwatkins | it shows the correct NIS master as well, I assume. | 10:29 |
| arsen | yeha. | 10:30 |
| dwatkins | I'm stumped. Have you asked on #ubuntu? | 10:32 |
| arsen | not yet, i will do shortly | 10:32 |
| arsen | a cup of tea might solve this. | 10:32 |
| dwatkins | tea++ | 10:32 |
| dwatkins | Did you switch it off then on again? ;) | 10:32 |
| arsen | yeah a few times :< | 10:33 |
| dwatkins | yeah, that's not really a solution to most of my problems either | 10:33 |
| arsen | i even sporadically restarted random services | 10:33 |
| * daubers hates writing documentation | 10:40 | |
| oimon | i enjoy it daubers, but only on fridays | 12:03 |
| oimon | i need a live iso with KDE4.9 on it - anyone suggest anything? | 12:23 |
| === LjL^ is now known as LjL | ||
| Mez | Signup for Coventry Global Jam is up ... http://ugj-cov.eventbrite.co.uk/ | 15:13 |
| === NimChimpsky is now known as UndercoverCat | ||
| popey | gord, did you pay for sublime? | 16:10 |
| popey | also, do you have it in your launcher etc? | 16:10 |
| gord | popey, nope and don't use it. tried to get in to it but i always go back to vim | 16:16 |
| gord | more to do with my lazyness than a comment on the software really | 16:16 |
| Monotoko | evenin' all | 16:19 |
| Lorra | hi | 16:19 |
| popey | heh | 16:22 |
| === StrontiumCat is now known as `Cat` | ||
| === NimChimpsky is now known as `Cat` | ||
| extrasolar | How do you like your toast in the morning? | 16:58 |
| `Cat` | burnt beyond recognition | 17:10 |
| extrasolar | I like mine with a hug | 17:11 |
| extrasolar | Dark or light the worlds alright as long as I get my hug | 17:12 |
| `Cat` | =) | 17:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Burned? | 17:13 |
| extrasolar | lol burned | 17:14 |
| extrasolar | is that a word now? | 17:14 |
| * davmor2 is currently enjoying placebos rendition of running up that hill (Kate Bush classic) | 17:19 | |
| extrasolar | I like pure morning, good song | 17:21 |
| popey | oooooookay | 17:21 |
| MartijnVdS | evening popey | 17:22 |
| popey | pip pip | 17:23 |
| === zz_diddledan is now known as diddledan | ||
| davmor2 | popey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKkaLM9NcSo it's nice | 17:23 |
| davmor2 | popey: it's kinda eerie and a bit edgy and yet mellow at the same time | 17:24 |
| popey | she scares me | 17:25 |
| davmor2 | popey: Kate Bush or Placebo | 17:25 |
| davmor2 | popey: or czajkowski or christel | 17:25 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: if you really want to be scared, http://www.youtube.com/user/wzr0713 | 17:26 |
| christel | davmor2: are you saying i am scary? :o | 17:29 |
| MartijnVdS | christel: is he wrong? | 17:32 |
| christel | yes :( | 17:33 |
| MartijnVdS | But how can we be sure? | 17:34 |
| christel | spend a night with me in a haunted house and you'll see! | 17:34 |
| * christel nods | 17:34 | |
| * MartijnVdS imagines http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA | 17:35 | |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| davmor2 | christel: you were one of the only She's that I knew could take a joke that was in hte channel to be honest :) I think your a harmless little kitty cat myself and not at all scary :D But then I've had years of beatings off czajkowski so I would :) | 18:04 |
| * christel purrs sweetly | 18:05 | |
| * davmor2 remembers getting blagged by a cat like this before with claw marks most of the way down my arms :D | 18:09 | |
| * christel smirks | 18:10 | |
| Dave2 | :o | 18:11 |
| === diddledan is now known as zz_diddledan | ||
| === zz_diddledan is now known as diddledan | ||
| * TheOpenS1 is on IRC direct from Thunderbird 15 :-) | 19:02 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hmm - seems to chop my username a bit ;-) | 19:03 |
| davmor2 | yeah but who needs usernames right | 19:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hmm, not sure about Thunderbird's implementation. Not enough tweaking options... I want the timeline the other way round... I want to see all the tweet and not a truncated version of it (why is it doing that anyway?) | 19:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Makes me realise just how cool Hotot really is. | 19:13 |
| christel | i parsed Hotot as "Hotornot" | 19:14 |
| TheOpenS1 | The IRC layout in TB is much better than for Twitter. | 19:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Then I guess it being written in XUL anyone can make a new theme for it... Interesting idea. Not sure how I like having all my conversation stuff in one app yet. Could be good or it be a PITA. | 19:18 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| davmor2 | Okay I couldn't stay away you cheer me up to much now bring on the funny | 19:49 |
| SuperEngineer | davmor2: for funny [& sense] - tune into the Ubuntu UK Podcast | 19:53 |
| davmor2 | Nah I'm on my phone here there is a limit to what I can do | 19:55 |
| SuperEngineer | davmor2: :( | 19:55 |
| christel | ah but you only need one hand to type! | 20:12 |
| davmor2 | Yeah the other is obviously holding the phone | 20:22 |
| * christel nods | 20:22 | |
| AlanBell | any more people coming for a beer in Farnham? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1906/detail/ | 20:23 |
| davmor2 | Anyway people I'm off this works well :) | 20:27 |
| christel | you scared him away! | 20:28 |
| AlanBell | yes, I am very scary :( | 20:28 |
| christel | yes, i know :( | 20:29 |
| christel | i want icecream | 20:31 |
| * bigcalm pounces | 20:31 | |
| AlanBell | like an Essex tiger | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | Tiger? | 20:33 |
| AlanBell | no, that was a lion wasn't it | 20:33 |
| jacobw | lion | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | So I hear | 20:33 |
| AlanBell | tiggers pounce | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | Well, they bounce | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | This much we know | 20:33 |
| AlanBell | the wonderful thing about tiggers is tiggers are wonderful things | 20:33 |
| christel | BIGCLAM | 20:34 |
| AlanBell | They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy Fun, fun, fun, fun, FUN! | 20:34 |
| bigcalm | tee eye double guh uh | 20:34 |
| bigcalm | christel!!!!!!!!one | 20:34 |
| christel | but the most wonderful thing about tiggers is i am the only one! :P | 20:35 |
| AlanBell | "They're loaded with vim and with vigor" not emacs !!! | 20:35 |
| christel | haha | 20:35 |
| bigcalm | There's only one christel | 20:35 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 20:35 |
| christel | (and they love to leap in your laps!) | 20:35 |
| bigcalm | Tiggers or christels? | 20:36 |
| christel | tiggers silly! | 20:36 |
| bigcalm | I always felt sad for Tigger that he was the only one | 20:36 |
| christel | christels dont leap :x | 20:37 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 20:37 |
| bigcalm | christel: welcome home my dear :) | 20:44 |
| christel | THANK YOU DARLING THANK YOU | 20:48 |
| christel | did you miss me? :D | 20:48 |
| bigcalm | Always do. Who else is to keep the sanity around here? | 20:49 |
| christel | you're the sweetest | 20:52 |
| * bigcalm hugs his beer mug | 20:53 | |
| bigcalm | Dare I have a 2nd pint on a school night? | 20:53 |
| AlanBell | one pint of vodka is probably enough | 20:54 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: aww, one for the road guvnor? | 20:54 |
| AlanBell | oh go on then | 20:55 |
| bigcalm | Working from home means the morning commute is hell | 20:55 |
| === zz_diddledan is now known as diddledan | ||
| dwatkins | Watch out for Lego on the floor, bigcalm. | 21:06 |
| bigcalm | dwatkins: I haven't played with lego for a good 20 years :( | 21:08 |
| bigcalm | Maybe I should do something about that | 21:08 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: ok, plugs then? ;) | 21:08 |
| dwatkins | I have a Lego phone holder or four. | 21:08 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 21:08 |
| dwatkins | I built cases for my Raspberry Pi and Arduino out of Lego, too. | 21:08 |
| SuperEngineer | me wantte: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu-preloaded-keyboard | 21:12 |
| bigcalm | Cute | 21:16 |
| bigcalm | There's scope for a lot of hardware inside a keyboard case | 21:17 |
| dwatkins | I think Commodore made a PC inna keyboard. | 21:20 |
| mgdm | Indeed | 21:20 |
| ali1234 | it's been tried several times before | 21:22 |
| ali1234 | but nobody buys them because you can't fit any decent hardware in that form factor unless you are willing to pay macbook air prices | 21:22 |
| ali1234 | and anyone willing to do that just buys a macbook air | 21:22 |
| dwatkins | I connected my IBM Model M to my Macbook this evening, it worked well now I have an adapter cable. | 21:23 |
| dwatkins | It's like driving a tank, though. | 21:23 |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm... someone seems unaware of possibilities here... | 21:23 |
| bigcalm | Noisy keys of the world unite! | 21:23 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: yeah, I was discussing it with a colleague, he has clearly never been in a room with one | 21:24 |
| dwatkins | possibilities, SuperEngineer? | 21:24 |
| SuperEngineer | deliberate | 21:24 |
| bigcalm | dwatkins: I ordered a Modle M clone from Unicomp in the States. Hayley hates it, I love it :D | 21:24 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: egg boxes on the walls ;) | 21:25 |
| bigcalm | Unicomp is actually the company that made the Model M in the 1st place | 21:25 |
| === diddledan is now known as zz_diddledan | ||
| mgdm | I hate model Ms | 21:27 |
| mgdm | I seem to be in the minority, here, but I find them horrible to type on, far too noisy, and painful to use | 21:28 |
| mgdm | Give me a thinkpad keyboard, or at a stretch, a Mac one | 21:28 |
| SuperEngineer | time for bed, said Zebedee ;) | 21:33 |
| SuperEngineer | boiiiinnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg | 21:33 |
| bigcalm | I really should book phpnw and a hotel | 21:34 |
| bigcalm | I()->love()->chaining()->methods | 21:35 |
| bigcalm | () | 21:35 |
| mgdm | just wait till you get 5.4 | 21:37 |
| bigcalm | Oh? | 21:37 |
| mgdm | $you->can()->chain()['and']-dereference()->in()[1]; ! | 21:37 |
| bigcalm | Accessing returned arrays directly from the method call?! Yay. Something I miss from Perl | 21:39 |
| bigcalm | Hazar. My code catches Exceptions sensibly at last | 21:47 |
| bigcalm | Tomorrow shall be horribly unproductive as I have to write unit and functional tests | 21:48 |
| bigcalm | Actually, I see the rest of the week being like that | 21:49 |
| bigcalm | Who thought that testing would be a good idea? | 21:49 |
| bigcalm | 2 pints of bitter say that I don't do testing now :D | 21:51 |
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