| Kilos | hi superfly and others | 04:59 |
|---|---|---|
| Squirm | morning | 05:05 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 05:05 |
| Squirm | you're in early Kilos | 05:06 |
| Kilos | yeah everything is working, no need to sort stuff first | 05:06 |
| Squirm | nice | 05:09 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonk | 05:12 |
| kbmonk | hi hi o/ | 05:12 |
| Kilos | no more ey? hehe | 05:12 |
| kbmonk | I got in via the freenode webchat | 05:12 |
| Kilos | ah | 05:12 |
| Kilos | wb | 05:12 |
| kbmonk | he he. how are you Kilos? | 05:12 |
| Kilos | you have showed online since your UH | 05:13 |
| Kilos | good ty kbmonk and you | 05:13 |
| kbmonk | good | 05:13 |
| Kilos | hows things your side kbmonk | 05:13 |
| Kilos | work going good? | 05:13 |
| kbmonk | that is my irssi on a shell account that is always online Kilos. | 05:13 |
| kbmonk | but they block that at work so i cant get ssh in. | 05:14 |
| Kilos | you just need to etll it to show away | 05:14 |
| Kilos | tell | 05:14 |
| Kilos | i have greeted and pinged you few times | 05:14 |
| kbmonk | usually I do, but my 3G cut out before I could do that. Murphey eh ;) | 05:15 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 05:15 |
| kbmonk | It doesn't show as away? | 05:15 |
| Kilos | have you tried 8ta, much more stable than the others | 05:15 |
| Kilos | didnt nuvolari tell you | 05:16 |
| kbmonk | nuvolari did and I'm interested now! | 05:16 |
| Kilos | lotsa guys here gone 8ta | 05:16 |
| Kilos | just member when you buy a sim put it in fone and fone 8ta and get them to enable 3g | 05:17 |
| kbmonk | today i'm going to see an agent about a place to stay... so maybe i cant go find 8ta tomorrow or the weekend. | 05:17 |
| Kilos | otherwise its edge or gprs | 05:17 |
| kbmonk | Thanks for that tip, Kilos! XD | 05:17 |
| Kilos | no shops near you? | 05:17 |
| Kilos | yw | 05:17 |
| Kilos | every second tea room sells sims and airtime | 05:18 |
| kbmonk | +1 | 05:18 |
| * Squirm noms | 05:20 | |
| kbmonk | hi Squirm o/ | 05:20 |
| Squirm | lo kbmonk | 05:20 |
| * kbmonk throws bananas at Kilos and Squirm | 05:20 | |
| Squirm | kbmonk: you're a monk today, act like one :/ | 05:21 |
| Kilos | yummy | 05:21 |
| Squirm | I'm going to be late again... | 05:22 |
| kbmonk | I don't like this webchat, it has no SSL :/ | 05:23 |
| Kilos | hi Gavin__ | 05:26 |
| Kilos | kbmonk, there must be someway to bypass their block | 05:27 |
| Kilos | you not a geek for nothing | 05:27 |
| kbmonk | how much R/MB does 8ta go for? | 05:27 |
| Kilos | they got a special on R149 for 2g +1g night surfer | 05:28 |
| Kilos | after 11 pm | 05:28 |
| kbmonk | I pay that for 500MB on voda. wow that is much cheaper. Thanks Kilos :) | 05:29 |
| Kilos | yeah i jumped at it too | 05:29 |
| kbmonk | not sure why their site says R1/MB. | 05:29 |
| kbmonk | aah, okay for data only its cheaper. no voice. no problem | 05:30 |
| Kilos | once you have enabled the sim to 3g it shows where you change airtime to data | 05:32 |
| Kilos | before enabling 3g i didnt see it on the fone | 05:33 |
| Kilos | i think the 8ta guy said once 3g is activated then that sim only works to other 8ta fones | 05:34 |
| Kilos | but thats fine in the modem | 05:34 |
| Kilos | and there is a tool to topup and check airtime balance on linux | 05:35 |
| kbmonk | Okay :) | 05:35 |
| kbmonk | I have to go now :( | 05:36 |
| Kilos | havent found how to check data balance without putting sim in fone yet | 05:36 |
| Kilos | have a good day laddy | 05:36 |
| Squirm | better run to work. be back in <5 | 05:36 |
| Kilos | go Squirm | 05:36 |
| kbmonk | normally its like *100# (or whatever code they have). that is called ussd codes | 05:37 |
| kbmonk | you can use the gsm-ussd program to *100# your 3G modem :) | 05:37 |
| Kilos | oh | 05:37 |
| kbmonk | that's what I used to top-up airtime. no fone reqrd | 05:38 |
| Kilos | ill check inna repos | 05:38 |
| Kilos | ty | 05:38 |
| kbmonk | ciao ciao o/ | 05:38 |
| Kilos | be good | 05:39 |
| kbmonk | I'll try ;) | 05:39 |
| * Squirm yawns | 05:46 | |
| Kilos | lol so early | 05:46 |
| Kilos | or you still waking up | 05:46 |
| Squirm | I'm either always waking up, or always going to sleep | 05:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: good morning | 05:55 |
| Kilos- | hmm hiya inetpro | 05:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: go to https://home.8ta.com/ | 05:56 |
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| Kilos | ok | 05:56 |
| inetpro | do the 'Self Service Login' thing | 05:56 |
| inetpro | then you can recharge your bundle | 05:57 |
| inetpro | and check your balance | 05:57 |
| Kilos | prepaid tool allows that | 05:57 |
| Kilos | oh you can check too | 05:58 |
| inetpro | what's the prepaid tool? | 05:58 |
| Kilos | 8ta sees opera as a fone | 05:58 |
| Kilos | prepaid-manager | 05:58 |
| Kilos | in repos | 05:58 |
| Kilos | shows airtime balance and allows topup | 05:59 |
| Kilos | only doesnt show data balance | 05:59 |
| inetpro | interesting, thanks | 06:00 |
| * inetpro didn't even know about that | 06:00 | |
| Kilos | i saw it in a mail the weed answered | 06:00 |
| inetpro | not that I need it any more these days | 06:00 |
| Kilos | you got the big 8ta bundle? | 06:00 |
| Kilos | 60 + 60 | 06:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no not yet | 06:01 |
| Kilos | this 2 +1 is great for me | 06:01 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 06:02 |
| Squirm | I want a holiday | 06:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:05 |
| Kilos | how long you been working Squirm ? | 06:06 |
| Kilos | at that place? | 06:06 |
| Squirm | since January | 06:07 |
| Kilos | 5 more months then you got leave | 06:08 |
| Squirm | I've had bits of leave | 06:10 |
| Squirm | but I want to go away somewhere | 06:10 |
| Tonberry | hallo | 06:13 |
| Squirm | hello Tonberry | 06:15 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:23 |
| Kilos | all good? | 06:23 |
| maiatoday | yup thanks, juggeling priorities as usual but all good, you? | 06:25 |
| Kilos | good ty | 06:25 |
| jrgns | morning all | 06:28 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 06:29 |
| superfly | morning all | 06:45 |
| sakhi | morning all | 06:46 |
| charlvn | good morning | 06:55 |
| charlvn | morning superfly, sakhi, Kilos, jrgns, maiatoday | 06:56 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 06:56 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 06:56 | |
| jrgns | morning charlvn | 06:56 |
| maiatoday | hi all | 06:58 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn! | 07:00 |
| superfly | hey, maiatoday, good to see you | 07:00 |
| maiatoday | superfly are you super busy with work or do you have some time for a python project | 07:02 |
| superfly | maiatoday: what does it involve? | 07:05 |
| maiatoday | I don't have a lot of detail, it's prism and web stuff | 07:05 |
| maiatoday | no no typo, pyramid, not prism | 07:06 |
| maiatoday | If you think you have time mail me and I'll get more info | 07:07 |
| superfly | pyramid, oooo | 07:07 |
| charlvn | Maaz: thanks! | 07:08 |
| Maaz | charlvn: Okay :-) | 07:08 |
| superfly | my framework of choice | 07:08 |
| charlvn | hi smile :) | 08:06 |
| smile | hi. :) | 08:06 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 08:07 |
| Kilos | lo charlvn sakhi | 08:07 |
| Kilos | and psydroid | 08:07 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos worth of smile :) | 08:10 |
| psydroid | hi charlvn | 08:10 |
| psydroid | hi sakhi | 08:10 |
| psydroid | :) | 08:10 |
| smile | psydroid: lol. :p | 08:12 |
| smile | ^^ | 08:12 |
| charlvn | hi psydroid | 08:12 |
| smile | charlvn: have you slept well? :) | 08:23 |
| charlvn | yes indeed! much nicer weather now! | 08:32 |
| charlvn | i am feeling GREAT this morning! | 08:32 |
| charlvn | i wish i could sleep longer :) | 08:32 |
| charlvn | but i have a job i need to tend to ;) | 08:32 |
| smile | :) | 08:38 |
| Kilos | hmm | 09:19 |
| Squirm | hmm | 09:19 |
| Squirm | so | 09:19 |
| Squirm | I just got the rest of the day off | 09:19 |
| Squirm | unplanned | 09:19 |
| Squirm | now I don't know what to do with myself | 09:20 |
| inetpro | Squirm: where are you based? | 09:20 |
| Squirm | Treverton Schools, Mooi RIver | 09:20 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 09:21 |
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| * Symmetria laughs | 10:14 | |
| Symmetria | Im now broke :P I just spent all my cash haha, need to make more | 10:15 |
| Kilos | what you bought, another car? or an aeroplane | 10:18 |
| Symmetria | lol parents house is on a double plot | 10:20 |
| Symmetria | or was | 10:20 |
| Symmetria | I now own the bottom plot | 10:20 |
| Symmetria | eventually lol I'll probably buy the house/top plot as well | 10:20 |
| jrgns | nice | 10:21 |
| Symmetria | heh but I refuse to take loans to do this stuff so will be a while before I can afford to buy either the house on the top plot or build, coupla months at least | 10:21 |
| * Symmetria believes in a cash world | 10:21 | |
| Kerbero | yeah | 10:42 |
| Kerbero | it is better | 10:42 |
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| magespawn | howdy all | 11:07 |
| smile | Hi :) | 11:19 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: eish! | 11:59 |
| inetpro | blowing your horn like that is really not so nice | 11:59 |
| zeref_campus | hmmmm | 12:28 |
| charlvn | good afternoon | 12:52 |
| zeref_campus | is anybody a member of: http://www.meetup.com/Jozi-Linux-User-Group-JLUG/ | 13:00 |
| charlvn | zeref_campus: interesting, are they trying to compete with the glug? | 13:03 |
| charlvn | afaik the glug is much more well established | 13:03 |
| zeref_campus | had a peak at the clug site, seems to be dead | 13:04 |
| zeref_campus | the Jozi guys seem to be very active | 13:04 |
| jrgns | i want to one of the meetups once | 13:05 |
| jrgns | was quite good | 13:05 |
| jrgns | in my experience (and opinion) glug isn't very chat / noob friendly | 13:06 |
| jrgns | any glug members here? i'd like to hear other experiences? | 13:07 |
| zeref_campus | heard about the jozi guys today, thinkning about going to a meetup and see whats cookin there | 13:08 |
| Symmetria | damn | 13:09 |
| Symmetria | heh | 13:10 |
| Symmetria | to redo the switches in the hostels at one of the universities | 13:10 |
| Symmetria | I need 150 48 hour switches | 13:10 |
| Symmetria | like, holy crap :p | 13:10 |
| inetpro | jrgns: what happened? | 13:12 |
| charlvn | jrgns: i used to belong to some of the glug mailing lists a long time ago, they were even relatively inactive back then compared to the clug | 13:12 |
| charlvn | jrgns: i don't know about being noob friendly or not though, i can't say i particularly experienced them as being *ssholes or anything | 13:13 |
| charlvn | jrgns: to the contrary, you get a lot of snobbish attitude under the clug as well, probably much more so than the glug | 13:13 |
| jrgns | inetpro: i've seen a couple of responses from members where they are either very defensive of their own points of view, or very dismissive of other people's lack of experience / skills | 13:14 |
| jrgns | inetpro: i've always managed to steer clear of that, but made the mistake about asking if anyone knew about a PHP community on the list. got the dressing down of my life | 13:15 |
| charlvn | Symmetria: 48 hour switches? what's that? | 13:15 |
| Kerbero | 48 port? | 13:15 |
| charlvn | hi smile4 | 13:15 |
| inetpro | jrgns: hmm... | 13:15 |
| jrgns | inetpro: i'm probably exaggerating a bit, but it wasn't the response i expected | 13:15 |
| inetpro | I know the feeling... | 13:16 |
| jrgns | charlvn: i suspect the inactivity stems from a lack of openness | 13:16 |
| charlvn | jrgns: you're probably right | 13:16 |
| jrgns | inetpro: ? | 13:16 |
| charlvn | jrgns: that problem is quite common though, also with the clug. you get the most insane fights about petty stuff on some of the lists | 13:16 |
| jrgns | charlvn: not kewl | 13:17 |
| inetpro | email communication can be a tough medium, I guess like all communication | 13:17 |
| jrgns | yup | 13:17 |
| charlvn | jrgns: there is definitely a degree of elitism but regarding php programming, php is always the victim of elitism amoung programmers | 13:17 |
| jrgns | in contrast, the jlug group is very open and willing to teach and be taught. the meetup I went to was more a discussion than a lecture. quite nice | 13:17 |
| charlvn | jrgns: the problem really stems from a great number of php programmers who really have no idea of how to program or architect systems | 13:17 |
| jrgns | charlvn: oh, definitely | 13:17 |
| charlvn | jrgns: due to that, php programmers have gotten a really bad reputation of the years | 13:18 |
| charlvn | jrgns: of course, there are a lot of really good programmers that also use php (when the need calls for it) | 13:18 |
| jrgns | charlvn: the problem is that a lot of animosity towards php dev comes from this misconception | 13:18 |
| inetpro | many times you must learn to take in on the chin and just move on | 13:18 |
| inetpro | don't take it personal | 13:18 |
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| jrgns | charlvn: which just creates a bigger divide between inexperienced php devs and other devs, as they young php devs now get the idea that ruby / python / whatever devs are snobbish ruffians | 13:19 |
| jrgns | and prevents them from then learning from the other languages | 13:19 |
| charlvn | jrgns: perhals you're right, although, to be perfectly honest, it shouldn't come as a surprise | 13:20 |
| jrgns | inetpro: definitely. i still lurk on glug-chat, but will think twice and read any responses much more carefully | 13:20 |
| jrgns | charlvn: ?? | 13:20 |
| charlvn | jrgns: lemme put it this way... there is really no barrier of entry when it comes to calling yourself a "programmer" | 13:21 |
| charlvn | for example, a doctor needs to have a medical degree, or a lawyer needs to attend law school | 13:21 |
| jrgns | charlvn: ah. i can copy & paste from SO, and now I can code | 13:21 |
| charlvn | but anyone can learn how to program and claim to be an "experienced programmer" after just taking on a few small and relatively simple projects\ | 13:22 |
| charlvn | exactly, just by using google and resources like stack overflow etc, you can actually get a lot done without having too much experience | 13:22 |
| jrgns | charlvn: definitely. I've interviewed a few coders that rated their PHP skills as above average / expert, but couldn't answer simple php basics | 13:22 |
| jrgns | frustrates the hell out of me | 13:22 |
| charlvn | well that's why you get some strange behaviour from a lot of programmers, i don't think they have anything against helping promising young programmers\ | 13:23 |
| charlvn | but i think they want to try and keep the "wannabees" out | 13:23 |
| jrgns | charlvn: i agree | 13:23 |
| charlvn | i have seen very few of those wannabees in europe but in south africa they seem to be quite common | 13:23 |
| jrgns | hehe, yup | 13:23 |
| charlvn | i think it's because a lot of people see programming as a "good job" where they are going to "earn lots of money" | 13:23 |
| charlvn | where in europe it's kind of "oh yeah so you're a programmer, whatevs" | 13:24 |
| charlvn | not that it's a bad thing to say you're a programmer, but it doesn't impress people too much | 13:24 |
| jrgns | i've been dealing with managing people's perception of me because I market myself as an expert php coder. i'm starting to throw that out, and just go with backend coder or systems dev | 13:24 |
| jrgns | hehe | 13:24 |
| charlvn | i'm completely with you there | 13:24 |
| charlvn | i don't refer to myself as a python/php/java/whatever programmer | 13:25 |
| charlvn | simply as a backend developer | 13:25 |
| jrgns | ja, and i only go for web dev if i know people either know what it entails (not just html and some js) or if i know they are looking for a web dev | 13:26 |
| charlvn | well let's face it, most systems are going to have a web component these days | 13:27 |
| charlvn | the whole concept of a "desktop programmer" versus a "web programmer" is totally outdated | 13:27 |
| charlvn | besides, these days people are running after the mobile application hype | 13:27 |
| charlvn | that is also only temporary because that will also largely be taken over by mobile web applications | 13:28 |
| charlvn | the world goes through these phases of "web 2.0" or "mobile" or "cloud" | 13:28 |
| charlvn | at the end of the day, very little of that is driven by actual technology | 13:28 |
| charlvn | we had services like hotmail in the 90's that people are now branding as "cloud" | 13:29 |
| charlvn | it's as ancient as trojan horses | 13:29 |
| jrgns | hehe | 13:29 |
| charlvn | (of the greek kind of course) | 13:29 |
| jrgns | i'm trying to stay on the backend, 'cause at the end of the day even cloud services need an api or backend to communicate to | 13:29 |
| charlvn | well that's why the backend is so important, for every web page that the user sees, a whole lot of stuff needs to happen on various servers to make that possible | 13:30 |
| charlvn | ok i need to get back to work :) bbl | 13:30 |
| jrgns | exactly. schweet | 13:33 |
| inetpro | heh, there are only a few buzzwords that I hate more than the cloud | 13:33 |
| inetpro | if anything a cloud can vanish as fast as it appears in the skies | 13:34 |
| jrgns | inetpro: witty | 13:35 |
| inetpro | :-) | 13:35 |
| Kilos | you okes didnt even say hi to carma | 13:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: eish! Sorry oom. | 13:37 |
| Kilos | lol never mind | 13:37 |
| Kilos | i was outside | 13:38 |
| jrgns | gtg, chat tomorrow | 13:38 |
| zeref_campus | hurrrmmm, has anybody used django? | 13:38 |
| Kilos | cheers jr | 13:38 |
| Kilos | whew | 13:38 |
| superfly | zeref_campus: somewhat. if possible I prefer to steer clear of it. there are much better options. | 13:39 |
| zeref_campus | superfly: why? | 13:41 |
| superfly | zeref_campus: Django suffers terribly from "Not Invented Here" syndrome | 13:41 |
| tumbleweed | which is partly what makes it easily understandable | 13:41 |
| superfly | thus you cannot typically use Django libraries in non-Django projects, and you can't use non-Django libraries in Django projects | 13:42 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: just like PHP ;-) | 13:42 |
| tumbleweed | non-django libraries work just fine in django | 13:42 |
| tumbleweed | zeref_campus: we use a lot of django at work | 13:42 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: depends on what you're trying to do | 13:42 |
| tumbleweed | everything that isn't java (urgh) is django | 13:42 |
| superfly | zeref_campus: there's also Pyramid, Flash, Bottle and Werkzeug | 13:43 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: sure. you can't esaily swap out the DB layer / templating. But you can easily use a library that doesn't replace a core django component | 13:43 |
| superfly | zeref_campus: you might want to take a look at a few of them and try to evaluate them | 13:44 |
| tumbleweed | Werkzeug is great if you are just trying to build a little API endpoint. Flask adds templating to it. Never used Pyramid / Bottle | 13:44 |
| zeref_campus | hmmm, no one is mentioning any CMS | 13:44 |
| zeref_campus | drupal, joomla | 13:44 |
| tumbleweed | zeref_campus: we're talking about application frameworks here, not CMSs | 13:45 |
| tumbleweed | although django was meant to replace the CMS | 13:45 |
| tumbleweed | (at a slightly lower level) | 13:45 |
| superfly | zeref_campus: Application Frameworks and CMS/CMF's are different things. | 13:45 |
| zeref_campus | oh, my mistake | 13:46 |
| tumbleweed | TBH, we use django as a replacement for a CMS for our front page | 13:46 |
| tumbleweed | and are very happy with it | 13:46 |
| tumbleweed | the "web people" don't need to know anything about python. They just drop in HTML, CSS, and JS. And it's all glued together with magic they don't touch | 13:47 |
| zeref_campus | hmmm, soo many to try :\ | 13:48 |
| superfly | zeref_campus: at least try Pyramid and Flask in addition to Django | 13:52 |
| zeref_campus | hmm, i'm busy reading up on them atm :D | 13:56 |
| tumbleweed | 16:47 < dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek is starting in a bit more than 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 14:49 |
| magespawn | see you all later | 15:00 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://www.diginfo.tv/v/12-0162-r-en.php | 15:31 |
| mikurubeam | Automatic motion tracking home security camera helps keep your pets safe - DigInfo TV - Tech News Videos From Japan | The latest technology, products, gadgets and scientific research direct from Tokyo | 15:31 |
| Kilos | hi mikurubeam | 15:32 |
| charlvn | very nice | 15:32 |
| charlvn | Kilos: mikurubeam is a java bot i created | 15:32 |
| Kilos | toods magespawn | 15:32 |
| Kilos | ha ha | 15:32 |
| charlvn | it's a little r&d | 15:32 |
| charlvn | ok i'm off, need to go home | 15:33 |
| charlvn | bbl | 15:33 |
| Kilos | later | 15:33 |
| Lionthinker | howzit guys | 15:44 |
| Lionthinker | is there an app or something that allows us cell data users to check and load airtime/data in sa? | 15:45 |
| nuvolari | Lionthinker: I'm positive each network has a web interface? :P | 16:00 |
| nuvolari | I gave up on a native app | 16:00 |
| nuvolari | ok, I'm ogg to home | 16:00 |
| nuvolari | hrr major lag | 16:00 |
| nuvolari | would be better at home | 16:00 |
| nuvolari | and I'm hungry | 16:00 |
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| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zbQwwljAg | 16:30 |
| mikurubeam | YouTube video by Hak5Darren: RFID Injection and Laser Hands at Toorcamp 2012, Hak5 1201.1 | 16:30 |
| charlvn | nice | 16:30 |
| Trixar_za | Hehehe - Flatpress actually has an Count Down to Ubuntu Release plugin | 16:31 |
| Trixar_za | Why do all the flatfile services have it? | 16:31 |
| not_found | Hak5 is awesome (pity I don't understand half of it) | 16:32 |
| charlvn | lol not_found | 16:32 |
| charlvn | a lot of their stuff is pretty noob but some of it is awesome | 16:32 |
| not_found | I sometimes understand the things snubsy is on about but once Darren starts getting excited I am lost | 16:33 |
| charlvn | shannon is more of a windows / high level user | 16:34 |
| charlvn | darren is more of a low level / command line / unix user | 16:34 |
| charlvn | shannon does some good ones too though | 16:34 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X5TwvGXHP0 | 16:35 |
| mikurubeam | YouTube video by Hak5Darren: How to Capture Packets with Wireshark - Getting Started | 16:35 |
| not_found | new bot I see | 16:35 |
| charlvn | shannon is getting better :) | 16:35 |
| charlvn | not_found: yeah something i wrote this morning, based off old code | 16:36 |
| Kerbero | o | 16:36 |
| Kerbero | shannon is my computer's name | 16:36 |
| charlvn | it was actually an experiment of how to do html5 parsing in java | 16:36 |
| charlvn | Kerbero: you got a crush? :P | 16:36 |
| not_found | charlvn: nice | 16:36 |
| not_found | Kerbero: cool name :) | 16:36 |
| Kerbero | no | 16:36 |
| Kerbero | shannon was not gay | 16:37 |
| Tonberry | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon | 16:37 |
| Kerbero | but he was a friend of turing | 16:37 |
| Kerbero | who was | 16:37 |
| charlvn | oh that shannon | 16:37 |
| Tonberry | different shannons | 16:37 |
| charlvn | ok now i get it | 16:37 |
| not_found | Snubsy is cute :p | 16:37 |
| charlvn | not_found: yeah she has a cute asian look to her | 16:37 |
| charlvn | not_found: even though she's not | 16:37 |
| Tonberry | mmm | 16:38 |
| Kerbero | what if turing had kids... | 16:38 |
| charlvn | i think she's a mixture of european and native american or something | 16:38 |
| Tonberry | reminds me im still on season7 of hak5 | 16:38 |
| * not_found can't remember when last he watched :(\ | 16:38 | |
| charlvn | i've been following hak5 all the way from season 1 | 16:38 |
| charlvn | ok i need to go get food: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapsalon | 16:40 |
| charlvn | brb | 16:40 |
| Kerbero | o lekker | 16:40 |
| Kerbero | een heel leuk naam ook | 16:41 |
| Symmetria | hrm | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | these new juniper switches | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | have some really cool shit | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | you can virtualize them with a cable between them | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | that runs at 128gigabit | 16:53 |
| Kerbero | wow | 16:53 |
| Symmetria | and they become a single switch | 16:53 |
| Symmetria | which means you can run a fiber into each unit, and then lacp across the fibers in a single l2 trunk | 16:53 |
| Kerbero | what type of cable will hadle that bandwidth | 16:53 |
| Symmetria | which means that in full mode, you have double capacity, but if you lose an entire switch, your uplink still works | 16:53 |
| Symmetria | thats a special stacking cable, you can do 100gig on a single normal fiber though | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | (infact you can dwdm 100gig so you can do 1.6 terabit using multi-wave) | 16:54 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, prepaid-manager in the repos | 17:21 |
| Kilos | hi not_found | 17:22 |
| Kilos | gives airtime balance and topup facility | 17:22 |
| not_found | hi uncle Kilos | 17:24 |
| Kilos | prepaid-manager-applet inetpro nuvolari | 17:25 |
| Kilos | i forgot the applet part | 17:26 |
| Kilos | night guys. i go crash early | 17:41 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 17:41 |
| zeref | ok, a friend of mine mentioned that phones are now designed to last for 3 years, anybody heard about this? | 18:11 |
| smile | bye :) | 18:32 |
| magespawn | evening al | 18:49 |
| magespawn | all | 18:49 |
| magespawn | tumbleweed is there an published schedule for those classes/talks in #ubuntu-classroom? | 18:56 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable | 19:04 |
| tumbleweed | longer term: http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html | 19:05 |
| charlvn | good evening | 19:08 |
| magespawn | cool ty tumbleweed | 19:23 |
| magespawn | evening charlvn | 19:23 |
| charlvn | hi magespawn | 19:27 |
| === Cantide is now known as CanStudied | ||
| CanStudied | ^_______^v | 20:02 |
| === CanStudied is now known as Cantide | ||
| zeref | ok | 20:05 |
| zeref | how do you get your app to show in the panel when its running? | 20:06 |
| zeref | for instance when you start dropbox it shows in the top panel | 20:06 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| charlvn | zeref: for your own application i mean? in which programming language? | 20:44 |
| charlvn | *you mean | 20:44 |
| zeref | teh python | 20:45 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Python_version | 20:48 |
| mikurubeam | DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators - Ubuntu Wiki | 20:48 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://standards.freedesktop.org/systemtray-spec/systemtray-spec-0.2.html | 20:49 |
| mikurubeam | System Tray Protocol Specification | 20:49 |
| zeref | ahhh, just what i was looking for, thanks | 20:50 |
| zeref | kept on missing my aaplications | 20:51 |
| zeref | *application notifications :D | 20:51 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/python-eggtrayicon | 20:51 |
| mikurubeam | Ubuntu -- Details of package python-eggtrayicon in precise | 20:51 |
| charlvn | if you are using PyGTK | 20:52 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtkstatusicon.html | 20:52 |
| mikurubeam | gtk.StatusIcon | 20:52 |
| charlvn | if you are using pyqt, maybe check this out | 20:53 |
| charlvn | mikurubeam: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qsystemtrayicon.html | 20:53 |
| mikurubeam | QSystemTrayIcon | Documentation | Qt Developer Network | 20:53 |
| charlvn | it all depends on which gui library you are using | 20:54 |
| charlvn | from the look of it, ubuntu is using some new strange custom and incompatible thing in unity | 20:54 |
| zeref | using GTK, nice and quick | 20:54 |
| charlvn | but i have never used it myself so i don't know | 20:54 |
| charlvn | just try a few things and see what works for you | 20:54 |
| charlvn | would be interesting to see what works, please report back with your findings | 20:54 |
| zeref | the first link is what i was looking for :D | 20:55 |
| charlvn | lol | 20:55 |
| zeref | PyGtK is fading out, making way for pygobject | 20:56 |
| charlvn | ah | 20:56 |
| zeref | *pyGI | 20:56 |
| charlvn | i almost never write any gui utilities anymore, it's either command line or web based for me now | 20:56 |
| charlvn | i used to develop some pretty heavy stuff with swing and dabbled around in qt as well a number of years ago | 20:56 |
| charlvn | *java swing | 20:57 |
| charlvn | ok lemme go to bed | 20:57 |
| charlvn | i am dead tired | 20:57 |
| charlvn | enjoy your developments! | 20:57 |
| zeref | ciao | 20:57 |
| magespawn | later all | 21:25 |
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