[00:00] <WeThePeople> im tired
[00:00] <v0lksman> sorry I wasn't clear
[00:00] <LiquidNil> Hello, I want to watch blu ray disk on ubuntu, VLC does not play it and yes I have the restricted extras and a blu ray drive????????
[00:00] <hylian> WeThePeople: have a good rest!
[00:00] <WeThePeople> thx
[00:00] <v0lksman> so fancontrol is removed but how do I restore the default fan behavior?
[00:00] <LiquidNil> !help
[00:00] <LiquidNil> Hello, I want to watch blu ray disk on ubuntu, VLC does not play it and yes I have the restricted extras and a blu ray drive????????
[00:00] <v0lksman> my fans are running full speed right now...hahaha
[00:00] <LiquidNil> v0lksman: please take that to ot
[00:01] <v0lksman> LiquidNil: ? how is that not an ubuntu support question?
[00:01] <KM0201> i don't think you can play bluray natively in linux yet (i could be wrong)
[00:01] <hylian> v0lksman: well your pc is nice and cool. I will do some research quick and see if i can dig anything up...
[00:01] <LiquidNil> KM0201: so Blu ray can not be played on Ubuntu?
[00:01] <v0lksman> hylian: thanks! digging too!
[00:02] <KM0201> LiquidNil: thats not what i said, i said i don't think it can be done natively(the way you're wanting to do it)..
[00:02] <Meris> LiquidNil, it can be played, just takes a little work
[00:02] <KM0201> google seems to confirm this.
[00:02] <Zeptis> Liquidnil, lmgtfy: http://apcmag.com/how-to-play-blu-ray-in-linux.htm
[00:02] <LiquidNil> Meris: what do i do exactly?
[00:02] <LiquidNil> ok
[00:02] <NicoBressler> Is it viable to program in Python in Ubuntu?
[00:02] <Zeptis> NicoBressler, yep.
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> NicoBressler:  python is used for a lot of things in Ubuntu
[00:03] <NicoBressler> I would love to start learning Python
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> more viable in Linux, then in windows i would imagine.. ;)
[00:03] <NicoBressler> I knew someone who was coding a phone system in Python
[00:03] <Meris> LiquidNil, try this link: http://apcmag.com/how-to-play-blu-ray-in-linux.htm
[00:03] <Cong> Okay I got my answer.
[00:03] <Zeptis> Meris: jinx :P
[00:03] <WeThePeople> liquidnil, http://apcmag.com/how-to-play-blu-ray-in-linux.htm
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> http://www.pyweek.org/      Python game of the Week.
[00:04] <Vyla2> i think my system is not using the iGPU integrated of my i5-2500K... how do i check that?
[00:04] <Meris> Zeptis, what's wrong?
[00:04] <hylian> v0lksman: well, this is a lot of work, but I think this may solve your problem. gkrellm is a strange little program. it will let you control your fan with the proper plugin... http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[00:04] <Zeptis> nothing, Meris, I just posted that right before you did
[00:04] <Meris> Zeptis, ah, you meant: Ninja'd.
[00:05] <Zeptis> ninja'd implies lack of sodas :\
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> Ninja Soda Jerks?
[00:05] <Meris> Zeptis, does it now? How curious. Can't seem to see the connection between soda and ninja, but that must be me, I guess ;-)
[00:06] <v0lksman> hylian: yeah I'm hoping to not have to control my fan and set it back to auto.  it's on a server anyways so no gui
[00:06]  * hylian is listening to highway 181 old country - http://108.61.73.119:8018
[00:06] <natsirt> Dr Willis I came back for seconds
[00:06] <andril> anyone good with nvidia drivers?
[00:06] <v0lksman> hylian: just not my night...
[00:06] <Zeptis> andril, ubottu is.
[00:06] <hylian> v0lksman: i was thinkgin you could use that line about how to restart fancontrol. that's why i mentioned it.
[00:07] <Zeptis> !nvidia > andril
[00:07] <v0lksman> hylian: hahaha...that's what got me into this mess. :)
[00:08] <v0lksman> hylian: fancontrol wasn't installed before I started. so it makes sense that it's not needed and it disabled something
[00:08] <andril> thanks
[00:08] <Zeptis> you're welcome
[00:08] <LiquidNil> WeThePeople: i am here http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
[00:08] <LiquidNil> im trying to do the make -f for the two files
[00:08] <LiquidNil> but i get an error
[00:09] <LiquidNil> makemkv-bin-1.7.7.tar.gz:2: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
[00:09] <LiquidNil> wait, i need to upack it first
[00:09] <LiquidNil> I have never compiled from source, how do i unpack it?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> a -bin- imples to me its allready compiled and has the binary in it
[00:10] <LiquidNil> Dr_Willis: there are two files, a bin and a oss
[00:10] <hylian> v0lksman: ohh, i misunderstood. hmmm, how strange. considering this is a server you probably want to keep up, i am assuming you have not restarted it... could it be something that needs restart of the kernel to re-implement?
[00:10] <LiquidNil> apparently i need both.
[00:11] <HAMKoot> LiquidNil, old post from 2008 ..
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> LiquidNil:  you sure you dont mean 2 directories?
[00:11] <LiquidNil> http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
[00:11] <LiquidNil> those two files there
[00:11] <LiquidNil> im trying to watch blu ray on ubuntu
[00:11] <hylian> v0lksman: also, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> You may want to spend an hr learning some shell basics first.
[00:12] <v0lksman> hylian: I could reboot but would rather not, might try just to save time... :)  12.04
[00:13] <hylian> v0lksman: yeah i figured. to be honest, i don't know what to tell you. I have never needed to control my fans/temp to the degree your dealing with. I don't monk with the rack mounts too often.
[00:14] <natsirt> LiquidNil:  you sure you dont mean 2 directories?
[00:14] <hylian> v0lksman: well, i'll keep digging.
[00:14] <LiquidNil> natsirt: I just did "tar -xfz" to those two files
[00:14] <LiquidNil> and now i have two new directories
[00:14] <natsirt> Dr Willis ou may want to spend an hr learning some shell basics first.
[00:14] <Zeptis> hotkeys are working, nvidia is working, wine is working, and pulseaudio is working; am I missing any big functionalities to readd to ubuntu?
[00:14] <hylian> Dr_Willis: i wonder if geekbox can play blueray. kind of a srtange woraround. but...
[00:15] <natsirt> hlyian:
[00:15] <markit> SolarisBoy: probably I've found the problem with my bonding
[00:15] <LiquidNil> http://www.geexbox.org/forum/topic/bluray-support/
[00:15] <LiquidNil> Geekbox?
[00:15] <LiquidNil> is that a program available in the repos?
[00:15] <hylian> LiquidNil: ever hear of geekbox? it's a live cd/dvd for playing dvd's and blue ray... i think it can handle blueray.
[00:15] <LiquidNil> Apparently it supports blue ray
[00:15] <cschams> l
[00:15] <LiquidNil> hylian: is it in the repos?
[00:15] <hylian> LiquidNil: yeah, my typo. geexbox.
[00:15] <szal> hylian: did you mean: GeeXboX?
[00:16] <LiquidNil> is Geexbox in the repos?
[00:16] <markit> just an hardware one... with the case open, the video board was "burning" the 2 nics above it, sigh
[00:16] <hylian> szal: yeah i meant geexbox.
[00:16] <szal> LiquidNil: last I read of it, it was a Linux distro
[00:16] <LiquidNil> oh
[00:16] <LiquidNil> im not going to run it on a vm just to watch a blu ray disk
[00:16] <hylian> linusable: no, it is dvd/blueray software pre configured in a linux kernel. you run it from live cd or usb drive.
[00:17] <v0lksman> hylian: yeah thanks! normally we don't need to mess with fan speeds but this box is acting weird. at least it will be nice and cool overnight...hahaha
[00:17] <LiquidNil> hylian: where can i get it, the repos?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> LiquidNil: http://lxbdplayer.sourceforge.net/english.html looks promising, but I have not tested it in any way and cannot vouch for it.(simly found it through http://askubuntu.com/questions/9912/how-can-i-watch-blu-ray-discs?rq=1 )
[00:18] <LiquidNil> Jordan_U: thanks
[00:18] <hylian> LiquidNil: not vm. you reboot the machine with the linux kernel, and then run the blueray. it doesn't play encrypted blue ray though...
[00:18] <subz3r0> hylian, bla
[00:19] <subz3r0> cheers
[00:19] <hylian> subz3r0: um, did i say something strange or bad?
[00:19] <Zeptis> how does one take a screen with Xwindows?
[00:19] <Zeptis> well, just X and a window manager, that is, and command line.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> geexbox is a little old.. OpenElec is a nice alternative
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> !screenshot
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> gimp can do screenshots also. theres other apps as well
[00:22] <Zeptis> Dr_Willis: I have X and Openbox, so I was wondering how to do it from terminal via X.
[00:22] <LiquidNil> Jordan_U: your a genious
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of screenshot apps out there..
[00:22] <LiquidNil> Jordan_U: just one thing, though i need a aacs plugin do you know where i can find it?
[00:22] <LiquidNil> the player needs it to decode the blu ray disk
[00:23] <szal> !info scrot
[00:23] <szal> Zeptis: there you have on
[00:23] <szal> e
[00:23] <Zeptis> thanks mate
[00:24] <Meris> !restrictedformats | malcolm91
[00:25] <wan26> gnome-screenshot
[00:25] <Meris> !restrictedformats > malcolm91
[00:26] <WeThePeople> liquidnil, http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/
[00:26] <Zeptis> I don't suppose there's anything like #packages or anything so I can stop bugging people who are fixing actual problems...
[00:27] <Dr_Willis_> !motu
[00:27] <Dr_Willis_> Zeptis:  the package manager tools have search features....
[00:29] <hylian> v0lksman: sorry man... i came up with nothing. there are plenty of clients to control the fan speeds, etc... but they are not part of the vanilla ubuntu server iso. Perhaps it's built directly into the kernel? there are a few control optopns, thinkfan, fancontrol, but these are addons for tweaking the fans. not what ubuntu usually uses...
[00:30] <hylian> ohh whatever alpha..
[00:31] <wan26> yeah...
[00:33]  * hylian is listening to Ricky Skaggs - Uncle Pen on http://108.61.73.119:8018
[00:33] <bkerensa> hylian: turn that script please
[00:33] <hylian> bkerensa: not a script. i hate using irc scripts.
[00:33] <Budric> Hi, i was wondering if it's possible to exclude certain traffic from going over VPN using IP tables.  Assume vpn is going over tun0, and network card is eth0
[00:33] <bkerensa> !offtopic > hylian
[00:34] <hylian> ok ubottu.
[00:35] <hylian> !ubottu
[00:36] <Zeptis> oh cool, an actual error. >>softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed
[00:36] <Zeptis> fun
[00:36] <hylian> v0lksman: any joy?
[00:37] <hylian> Zeptis: sorry your having such a hard time. From what i have read, i can't seem to find anything that lets you play encrypted blue ray discs... maybe this is your problem?
[00:39] <Zeptis> lol, I'm not the bluray guy
[00:39] <hylian> Zeptis: oops, my bad.
[00:39] <Zeptis> I'm the "let's make ubu skinny, but break it" guy
[00:39] <dial-a-monkey> Anyone know the name of a CGI/PHP based web proxy that I can setup on my "Home Ubunut PC" to be able to get to blocked sites from work? - and hopefully use SSL to the home machine
[00:39] <dial-a-monkey> Anyone know the name of a CGI/PHP based web proxy that I can setup on my "Home Ubunut PC" to be able to get to blocked sites from work? - and hopefully use SSL to the home machine
[00:39] <dial-a-monkey> Anyone know the name of a CGI/PHP based web proxy that I can setup on my "Home Ubunut PC" to be able to get to blocked sites from work? - and hopefully use SSL to the home machine
[00:39] <FloodBot1> dial-a-monkey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <hylian> Zeptis: I like openbox for that reason. openbox with lxpanel flies like a speedtrained on greased tracks.
[00:40] <Zeptis> if you use FireFox, you can use FoxyProxy, dial-a-monkey.
[00:40] <dial-a-monkey> Anyone know the name of a CGI/PHP based web proxy that I can setup on my "Home Ubunut PC" to be able to get to blocked sites from work? - and hopefully use SSL to the home machine
[00:40] <Psi-Jack> dial-a-monkey: What you are asking could be construed as illegal and therefore off-topic on Freenode.
[00:42] <Zeptis> hylian: indeed, it's booting into ~200MB now, but I banished all of my daemons and started again from X. freedesktop.PolicyKit seems to be next on my to-do list.
[00:42] <WeThePeople> budric, see #networking
[00:42] <Teddey305> hello everyone.
[00:42] <Zeptis> Psi-jack: proxies illegal?
[00:42] <Zeptis> Teddey305: welcome
[00:43] <Psi-Jack> Zeptis: Security evasion of the workplace firewall, ABSOLUTELY.
[00:43] <hylian> Zeptis: a hammer aint illegal either, unless your going to bludgeon me to death with it. I think Psi-Jack was trying to get to this point. :)
[00:43] <hylian> Teddey305: hello
[00:44] <Teddey305> I was wondering if anyone might be able to help with an installation problem i was running in to while trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an IBM 600X Notebook, I believe it said something like you eepron or prom serial might be changed, and it won't install.
[00:44] <Psi-Jack> hylian: Heh, glad some people have common sense. ;)
[00:45] <Zeptis> Psi-jack: do you happen to know which statute?
[00:45] <Zeptis> I know the modifying a network is, but just running certain traffic through it?
[00:45] <Psi-Jack> Using an external proxy to evade the company firewall is "modifying the network"
[00:46] <hylian> Teddey305: sorry, couldn't find anything like that. your trying to install 12.04?
[00:46] <Zeptis> how draconian
[00:47] <hylian> Psi-Jack: well, atleast i have something, thanks. :) Yeah, good idea to protect yourself from a possbiel lawsuit or worse.
[00:48] <pharotek> what's the safest way to update roundcube to version 0.8 from 0.7 if i originally installed 0.7 from the repo, but said repo doesn't have the 0.8 version?
[00:48] <Teddey305> this is the exact error message i got hylian, IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load mudule!
[00:49] <hylian> pharotek: i would assume... that uninstalling it and removing the repo, and then adding the repo and installing said version would be the safest. alsu a purge wouldn't be a bad idea.
[00:50] <hylian> Teddey305: thanks, i'll do some diggin and be back.
[00:50] <Zeptis> X really needs to stop exploding
[00:51] <Zeptis> !nvidia > zeptis
[00:51] <stuartrexking> should sudo su username source the files in /etc/profile.d?
[00:51] <Meris> Gotta sleep now, thanks for the nice atmosphere.
[00:51] <Jordan_U> stuartrexking: No. "sudo su - username" would though (as that makes it a login shell).
[00:52] <stuartrexking> Ah, thanks!
[00:52] <WeThePeople> teddey305, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM
[00:52] <Jordan_U> stuartrexking: You're welcome.
[00:52] <stuartrexking> Jordan_U: Thanks, that works.
[00:53] <WeThePeople> teddey305, its not going to corrupt it, just change it
[00:53] <HeatSeeker> Hi, how can I list what my outputs are named as in console? I'm trying to add a new resolution via xrandr but --addmode doesn't recognise VGA-0.
[00:53] <WeThePeople> teddey305,might need to remove the battery
[00:53] <coldkey21> I have a dule monitor set up on a desktop but when i go to display all it sees is one large laptop screen is there a way for me to seperate them?
[00:54] <Psi-Jack> hylian: Not protecting myself. Just not willing to help someone ELSE break their company policies they put in place, with a full infrastructure (firewall), and all.
[00:54] <Teddey305> h ok, well
[00:54] <Starthunder> I think I found a bug...I have Ubuntu 12.04.1-LTS on a PowerPC machine, and when I switch to a tty that nopony's logged in on and press any arrow key, the whole thing acts like...I'm not even sure how to describe it...
[00:54] <Teddey305> i restarted the pc
[00:54] <Teddey305> and the cd seems to have gotten stuck, so im going to burn a  new copy and see
[00:55] <WeThePeople> coldkey21, what distro u using
[00:56] <hylian> Teddey305: this problem has existed since 2006. It looks like Ubuntu never did solve this problem. You may have to use another distrobution. I would not suggest fedora though, it seems they have the same problem
[00:56] <blackshirt> what the problem exactly?
[00:56] <coldkey21> 12.04
[00:56] <hylian> blackshirt: he gets this error: IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load mudule!
[00:57] <hylian> blackshirt: and then he can't install ubnutu
[00:57] <blackshirt> that was very basic...
[00:57] <WeThePeople> teddey305, you could ask in #hardware too
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Teddey305: Are you actually running into any problems or are you just worried about seeing an error message?
[00:57] <Teddey305> i already ran into an error message
[00:57] <hylian> blackshirt: he has a ibm 600 x. there is a problem in the kernel itself, i believe. it will not install ubuntu.
[00:58] <Teddey305> but i restarted the pc and it seemed to get past the error message, but the pc froze up
[00:58] <blackshirt> i don't know exactly what the hardware inside that series..
[00:58] <Teddey305> so i burned a new copy to see if i get the same message
[00:58] <blackshirt> Have you try to disable some spesific options?
[01:00] <Teddey305> but if i did have to find another distro, which one is as easy to use as ubuntu? This is for my mother, who is 67, and she's used to windows lol, but i dont have the money to buy her a new pc at the moment, so im trying to get this one fixed up, so she can at least  watch some youtube videos or listen to some music.
[01:02] <hylian> Teddey305: it looks like the inclusion of lm-sesnors is the cause. the easiest to use distros besides ubuntu are opensuse, magea, and pclinuxos. (this is my opinion)
[01:02] <hylian> *magia
[01:04] <coldkey21> hello!  So i am using 12.04 and i am running duel monitors but it is telling me in the display that it is just on giant one.  is there a way to seperate them?
[01:07] <hylian> coldkey21: it's been a while. i remember having to unlock it so i could tell it to be 2. I think i had to untick the "mirror" option
[01:09] <LostMonk> does netflix instant watch not work on linux?
[01:09] <hylian> Teddey305: i am sorry man. I have dug as deep as I can. IBM never did give much or any support for this issue, and the linux heads basically came up with nada. I know ubuntu 5.10 works on your laptop. i can't imagine that being of any real help to you though for your purposes.
[01:09] <coldkey21> hylian: the mirror option is not even avalible it sees it all as one large laptop monitor 3360x1050 when it should be two 1680x1050
[01:09] <hylian> LostMonk: yes. it doesn't work. Netflix was paid a hefty sum of money by a certain large corporation to keep netflix off of linux machines, sorry.
[01:10] <ikonia> hylian: please don't make things up
[01:10] <jam__> I need someone to tell me step by step how to install avira on ubuntu12.04
[01:10] <hylian> ikonia: just what i read. I am not intentionally making things up. I am big enough to admit the article I read could be very askew. :)
[01:10] <Teddey305> well, ill try and see if ubuntu installs on the laptop, i hope it does. All i really want is for my mother to be able to browse the internet, and with XP on the pc, it runs terribly slow, so even though im not a wiz with linux, i do know that older pc's usually run better on linux, so i wanted to try and see.
[01:10] <KM0201> jam__: avira?  why
[01:11] <Starthunder> I think I found a bug in the tty's on 12.04.1-powerpc...
[01:11] <Teddey305> thanks alot for the help.
[01:11] <blackshirt> jam_.. Are you sure you want avira ???
[01:11] <jam__> why not
[01:11] <blackshirt> That's not fully needed
[01:11] <ikonia> hylian: right, so if you don't know - don't just say things, don't speak, be quiet, there is no need for random/untrue adlib to peoples technical questions.
[01:11] <KM0201> jam__: avast is better for Linux (and easier to install/update) in my opinion
[01:12] <jam__> It didnot send any password to my email
[01:12] <jam__> :(
[01:12] <hylian> ikonia: i didn't make it up, i read it. how does anyone know things? they read about it. seriously.
[01:12] <KM0201> jam__: check your spam filter... and remember, it takes up to 24hrs
[01:12] <jam__> I did
[01:12] <jam__> nothing there
[01:12] <KM0201> how long has it been?.. cuz it's always sent me registration numbers no problem
[01:12] <hylian> coldkey21: what is the grpahics card of your machine?
[01:13] <ikonia> hylian: ok, "please don't quote random unsubstantiated articles as an adlib to technical questions - answer the question with a technical answer, or please don't speak". Is that any clearer for you ?
[01:13] <WeThePeople> teddey305, i would recommend DamnSmallLinux >> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
[01:13] <hylian> ikonia: can do. :)
[01:13] <hylian> WeThePeople: but he wants to watch youtube videos... can you do that on dsl?
[01:13] <WeThePeople> yes
[01:13] <WeThePeople> just need flash
[01:14] <ikonia> you can watch youtube videos on any linux
[01:14] <jam__> hey km0201 I tried it with two email but non of them recieved the password
[01:14] <hylian> WeThePeople: cool, last time i used dsl it could barely use java...
[01:15] <ikonia> guys - if you don't know an answer to something, please don't push it
[01:15] <ikonia> look at the question he's asking, look at the hardware he's using, think about what you are offering
[01:16] <jam__> I really need to install avira (tar.gz package)
[01:16] <jam__> please someone help me
[01:16] <hylian> ikonia: he is using a ibm 600 x. the problem is that any linux that uses lm sensors will conflict. this is after reading articles for ten minutes, but I think I have this down pat. because of this ubuntnu 12.04 is crashing during install. any advice is very appreciated. :)
[01:16] <worm> jam__:  Is it source code? or binary package?
[01:17] <KM0201> jam__: you're going to have to google "compile from source"...
[01:17] <ikonia> hylian: again think about it, lmsensors......nothing to do with youtube
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> jam__, here is a link, are you sure you need avira? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/list-of-free-antivirus-software-for-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/?ModPagespeed=noscript
[01:18] <ikonia> !antivirus | jam__
[01:18] <hylian> ikonia: right. we are looking for a linux distrobution that does not use lm sensors so he can install linux, so he can watch youtube. you don't know what's going on, i do. please don't act this way, thanks.,
[01:18] <ikonia> hylian: lmsensors is not installed an enabled by default on pretty much any linux distro
[01:19] <ikonia> hylian: I'm pretty sure I do know what's going on, hence why I'm asking you to think about the random advice and comments you are making to actually help poeple.
[01:19] <worm> jam__: Open the file, and have a look inside. if there is a file looks like "makefile" or "configure", that is a source code.
[01:19] <hylian> ikonia: he gets the error "IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load module!" and then ubuntu crashes during install. you now have all the info i do. research says it has something (maybe) to do with lm sensors.
[01:19] <jam__> Ubottu I use dual boot with window and i transfer files to win with usb so
[01:19]  * cfhowlett Can't we all get along?
[01:19] <ikonia> hylian: ........why is that lmsensors ?
[01:20] <ikonia> cfhowlett: please don't
[01:20] <hylian> ikonia: i really don't know. it was on 5 of the 8 websites i read abot this issue, so it is just my assumption.
[01:20] <ikonia> hylian: so the part that I said "please don't quote random websites that are unsubstantiated".....if you don't know, don't speak point didn't hit home.
[01:21] <hylian> ikonia: i am sorry i tried to help someone while no one else would help him. please help him, seriously. Teddey305 needs the help
[01:22] <ikonia> hylian: helping someone is great, if you know the answer, throwing random things at him.....is not
[01:22] <hylian> ikonia: stop barking at me and help him, please. this bickering with me is getting us nowhere.
[01:23] <ikonia> hylian: I'm not barking at you, I'm asking you to stop giving out random advice/comments to people if you don't know the answer/substance of an article.
[01:23] <hylian> cfhowlett: sorry man. i get too tied up in all this.
[01:23] <hylian> ikonia: OMG. you win. speak to someone else please.
[01:24] <cfhowlett> hylian>happens to the best of us.  breath.
[01:25] <hylian> cfhowlett: thanks for trying to help me with teddy. man that laptop is ancient. i feel for him
[01:26] <jam__> ubottu still there?
[01:26] <KM0201> jam__: ubottu is a bot.
[01:26] <hylian> jam__: any way we can help you today?
[01:26] <Starthunder> KM0201: I think ubottu expressed that good enough itself. ;)
[01:26] <jam__> I installed avira and now it just disappeared
[01:27] <jam__> I dont know where it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:27] <KM0201> Starthunder: well considering he told him twice, and he still didnt' get it... i figured it needed reinforcing
[01:27] <hylian> jam__: on Ubuntu?
[01:27] <jam__> yep 12.04
[01:27] <Starthunder> KM0201: oh, lol
[01:27] <hylian> jam__: the first question would be why you installed an antivirus.. is it a linux version, or did you try and install it via wine?
[01:28] <jam__> it linux version and it was a deb package
[01:28] <jam__> got it from here See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[01:28] <hylian> jam__: can you type apt-cache search avg for me in the console?
[01:29] <jam__> console is terminal?
[01:29] <hylian> jam__: yes.
[01:30] <jam__> amavisd-new - Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters amavisd-new-postfix - part of Ubuntu mail stack provided by Ubuntu server team g15stats - a CPU/Memory/Swap usage meter for G15Daemon mttroff - TROff - A libavg based multitouch TRON clone pd-cxc - Pd library for working with patterns and numbers python-libavg - High-level development platform for media-centric applications wmmon - Window Maker dockapp for monitoring sy
[01:30] <jam__> this the result jam
[01:30] <jam__> hylan
[01:32] <hylian> jam__: ok, you did install it. i believe avg for ubuntu is strictly in the terminal though. I don't think it has a graphical component to it. this is from some experience using it on servers to remove viruses from windows machines.
[01:32] <WeThePeople> teddey305, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvrfBTrgfPU
[01:32] <jam__> so i cant scan my usb drive?
[01:33] <jam__> or any directory/
[01:33] <hylian> jam__: you should be able to. you will just have to use avg console commands to do it with. if you want a graphical system, then you may want to look into f-prot instead.
[01:34] <danes> hello, is it possible to watch netflix instant streaming on ubuntu?
[01:34] <KM0201> danes: not natively
[01:34] <jam__> never heard of it. is it free?
[01:34] <WeThePeople> teddey305, i think it needs eth0 though
[01:34] <cfhowlett> danes: nope.
[01:34] <danes> KM0201, is it possible at all? I dont want to use a VM
[01:35] <KM0201> danes: then you don't want it to work
[01:35] <jam__> nope let me use avira what is the command for that
[01:35] <danes> KM0201, so I bought a useless suscription then  :(
[01:35] <KM0201> jam__: you know there's antivirus software in the repositories don't you?
[01:36] <StephdeChine> I've got a small problem on using Quassel IRC. Those "xxx joined #ubuntu" is really annoying. Are there anyway to hide them?
[01:36] <jam__> nooooo I dont know you mean by default?
[01:36] <KM0201> danes: no, it works fine if you have Windows, or if you have an xbox/ps3/wii/TV that is capable of streaming netflix
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> StephdeChine, you can in xchat.
[01:37] <cellofellow> I plan to install Windows 8 in a virtual machine. Just, which one? I'm quite familiar with VirtualBox but was wondering if KVM with virt-manager is better.
[01:37] <hylian> jam__: here are the commands and a nice howto for avg. it is all console commands though. I had some success with clam av and f-prot. clam av does have a gui (grpahical front end) you can download seperately that will let you run the anti virus in a nice graphic window. http://ihaveapc.com/2011/07/how-to-install-and-use-avg-antivirus-in-linux-mint-ubuntu/
[01:37] <danes> KM0201, too bad. I am enemy with windows and don't have any device you mentioned... Well. I'll stick to the phone screen
[01:37] <KM0201> danes: it seems your main complaint should be with Netflix, not Linux
[01:37] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I want to change the icon of a program I have in my Unity Launcher. It got stuck with a gray box with a questionmark.
[01:37] <danes> KM0201, yes, I know. Linux rocks! I don't have anything against linux :)
[01:38] <cfhowlett> cellofellow: can't advise as windows 8 isn't even out yet and no one knows how well it will work in virutal.  sorry.
[01:39] <cellofellow> cfhowlett: got ya, but I was just looking at my universities free (gratis) MS software shop, and it has 8 so I figured I'd use it.
[01:39] <StephdeChine> But I really like the user interface of Quassel. Especially when I am using KDE
[01:39] <cfhowlett> cellofellow: non-snarky: good luck with that.  :)
[01:39] <cellofellow> anybody prefer virt-manager or virtualbox?
[01:40] <cfhowlett> cellofellow: I prefer vbox, but then I run very few windows programs in it.  I prefer the dual boot option.  Perhaps that's your solution?
[01:40] <zsolt_> hi there!how is it possible to extract a vmlinuz image,that is not in gzip format?
[01:41] <Vbitz> chrome just crashed, just closed out
[01:41] <jam__> hylian___: Thanks
[01:41] <hylian> well i am burned out. to ikonia i ask forgiveness. I am far from perfect. to the rest of you, have a good night.
[01:42] <cellofellow> cfhowlett: problem with that is Windows doesn't play nice installing dual-boot. You've gotta install first Windows then Linux, and this box straight Linux and I don't want to reinstall.
[01:42] <cfhowlett> cellofellow: ahh, but grasshopper, you do NOT need to reinstall linux.  You only need to reinstall the bootloader.
[01:43] <craigbass1976> Anyone running on an ibook g4?
[01:43] <cfhowlett> cellofellow: installing windows then ubuntu just avoids restoring grub bootloader.
[01:44] <craigbass1976> ubuntu won't wake up when I crack tyhe lid back open, but I'm running lxde, not unity.  I'm not sure if it's an ubuntu question or lubuntu
[01:44] <cellofellow> cfhowlett: figures. But, even so, I'm not going to use it heavily. The only thing I can think that I'd for sure be running is Visio, and it's good to test sites in IE too.
[01:44] <Smackbook> how can I list which hard drives devices are in an mdadm device?
[01:45] <cfhowlett> cellofellow: ok.  Best of luck.
[01:46] <zsolt_> is it possible to do that?got no kernel source,but need to extract vmlinuz content
[01:46] <zsolt_> then repackage it
[01:52] <Dan39> hello ubuntu :)
[01:52] <Dan39> what is whoopsie?
[01:52] <h22turbo> Dan39: you been hacked
[01:53] <Dan39> o_O
[01:53] <h22turbo> Dan39: haha jk... Its like error reporting service
[01:53] <h22turbo> crash reporting
[01:54] <Dan39> h22turbo: imma hack your ass
[01:54] <Dan39> D:<
[01:54] <h22turbo> ;)
[01:54] <cfhowlett> !language|Dan39
[01:54] <h22turbo> pwnt
[01:54] <Dan39> ok nazis
[01:55] <Dan39> this is IRC you know... cant even say the a word without people throwing bot commands at you?
[01:56] <Dan39> someone trying to be super strict here to get recognized, eh? growing your epeen?
[01:57] <h22turbo> naa, almost all channels on freenode do not allow cussing....
[01:57] <h22turbo> they're pretty strict about sh!t like that
[01:57] <Dan39> freenode is just the network
[01:57] <bazhang> actual ubuntu support question Dan39 ?
[01:57] <Dan39> the channels decide on rules like that
[01:58] <cfhowlett> Dan39: follow the rules of this community and channel or feel free to start your own.
[01:58] <h22turbo> yea, i know... i said almost all chan here dont allow cussing
[01:58] <Dan39> ill follow the rules
[01:59] <Dan39> i havnt curses since
[01:59] <h22turbo> but, its not a actual network rule
[01:59] <bazhang> !ot | Dan39 h22turbo
[01:59] <Dan39> but does that mean im not allowed to voice my opinion? i wasnt aware a open-source *nix distro has become so close minded
[02:00] <h22turbo> he's telling us we cant chat here.... we must join #ubuntu-offtopic to general chat
[02:00] <h22turbo> :)
[02:00] <h22turbo> only support Qs here
[02:00] <h22turbo> freenode is hardcore about dumb sh!t like this
[02:00] <bazhang> h22turbo, stop it
[02:05] <Dan39> bazhang: i would address you in the offtopic channel, but it seems you are not there. so i will ask here, why i was kicked, the specific rules broken, and how h22turbo was not kicked
[02:10] <yekoms> is there an alternative for webmin? i need something a little better.
[02:10] <bazhang> !ebox | yekoms
[02:11] <yekoms> i installed it using apt-get, i have no idea of the user/password
[02:12] <Zeptis> hi all~
[02:12] <h22turbo> yekoms: Any system account belonging to the admin group is allowed to log into Zentyal web interface
[02:13] <Zeptis> anyone know where I can find an installable/buildable version of xorg-video-abi-10?
[02:14] <Zeptis> apt-get is telling me it's not installable.
[02:15] <h22turbo> Zeptis: http://pkgs.org/download/xorg-video-abi-10
[02:16] <Dan39> Zeptis: what version of ubuntu?
[02:17] <lidar> hello\
[02:17] <Zeptis> hello, hello.
[02:18] <dj_segfault1> Hi.  I'm trying to follow the directions at  thttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postfix.htm to get SASL working.  I'm supposed to find the "socket listen" section, but I can't find that in any file under /etc/dovecot.  Does anyone know where that is?
[02:19] <h6sidhu> uter
[02:19] <Zeptis> so, my X decided to explode last time I was here, so I'm going to ask again: is there a buildable/installable version for xorg-video-obi-10?
[02:21] <jrib> Zeptis: Why? What version of ubuntu?
[02:21] <Dan39> its obi now? you wrote abi before
[02:22] <Zeptis> Dan39: gotta check myself before I wreck myself, obviously, one moment. ADHD and *nix isn't a safe combo
[02:24] <lidar> Zeptis, sure it is just dont play with root!!
[02:24] <Zeptis> >Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable
[02:24] <chspurgeon> I'm attempting an install on a Dell N5040 from a live usb.. And I get nothing after passing he bios
[02:24] <Zeptis> playing is how I learn :3
[02:24] <jrib> Zeptis: what gives you that output...?
[02:24] <lidar> Zeptis, have your tried apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:24] <Zeptis> apt-get install for nvidia-96
[02:25] <Zeptis> I'll try that, lidar, but I've been had updated
[02:25] <|Anthony|> i am using 10.04 and have checked off the "Pre-Released Updates (lucid proposed)" in the Software Sources. When checking for updates, it is listing image and headers for 2.6.32-38 and 2.6.32-42. I already have 42 installed. What is going on here?
[02:25] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: did you checksum the iiso?
[02:25] <cfhowlett> *iso*
[02:26] <chspurgeon> Yes, and I did a test boot on both other ubuntu machines in my house
[02:26] <jrib> Zeptis: see bug #948053
[02:27] <Zeptis> hmm
[02:27] <Zeptis> I'm going to need to find a workaround, then
[02:27] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: booting from USB?
[02:28] <trism> |Anthony|: 42 has a minor bump in -proposed, 2.6.32-42.95 to 2.6.32-42.96 (happens occasionally)
[02:28] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: oops.  never mind
[02:28] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|chspurgeon:
[02:28] <|Anthony|> should i ignore the apparent contradiction and continue with the update, or should i uncheck those things?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> chspurgeon, That unit is certified, do you know how to boot with nomodeset? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201104-7783/
[02:28] <|Anthony|> trism, why would 38 be listed there also?
[02:29] <chspurgeon> No I don't, but I'll look into it thank you
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > chspurgeon
[02:29] <cfhowlett> |Anthony|: as I understand, proposed updates are not cutting edge, they're bleeding edge.  Unless you REALLY need the latest and greatest (not fully vetted) shiny stuff, I'd pass.  That said, isn't it time to update to 12.04?
[02:29] <chspurgeon> Ok, thank you
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> chspurgeon, If you get it booted make sure you are plugged into the net when installing and tick the downloads box as well.
[02:30] <|Anthony|> cfhowlett, lol i appreciate the offer, but from my testings with gnome3... i despise it
[02:30] <trism> |Anthony|: seems it is the same with -38, 2.6.32-38.83 to 2.6.32-38.85
[02:30] <WeThePeople> |anthony|, just a side note when you boot i think you can select either of those kernels
[02:30] <win98forever> Hi, anyone here having trouble with Skype for Linux screwing up?
[02:30] <Zeptis> I know ubottu knows how to school me in nVidia, but software center is borked, so I can't use their method, and the nVidia *.run is "Unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in '/lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic/build'."
[02:30] <cfhowlett> |Anthony|: consider k/l/x/ubuntu.  no gnome
[02:31] <|Anthony|> indeed
[02:31] <jrib> Zeptis: I'd start by un-borking software center
[02:31] <Zeptis> okie-dokie
[02:31] <|Anthony|> probably end up with kde
[02:31] <|Anthony|> win98forever, yes i just started using skype from the 10.04 repo... and have had some issue with it
[02:32] <Zeptis> >>softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - Could not get usefulness from server, no username in config file
[02:32] <cfhowlett> |Anthony|: nice to have options.  :)  fwiw, I was forced to switch when UbuntuStudio adopted xfce.  Very VERY minor complaints not worth mentioning here.
[02:32] <Zeptis> I just installed this thing
[02:32] <|Anthony|> i thought it was either the webcam, or pulseaudio as that has been a perpetual thorn in my side
[02:32] <win98forever> Yeah, skype keeps failing every hour and acts as it lost connection,
[02:32] <jrib> Zeptis: how is software center borked?
[02:32] <win98forever> and then I have to kill it from the terminal and restart it.
[02:33] <|Anthony|> cfhowlett, MATE has be recommended to me as well
[02:33] <somsip> win98forever: what version of Skype?
[02:33] <WeThePeople> |anothny|, type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`  to update headers
[02:33] <win98forever> Skype 4.0 for Linux, from Skype's website.
[02:33] <WeThePeople> |anthony|, see abouve
[02:33] <Zeptis> well, whenever I try to click something to install/uninstall, nothing happens in the shell and the output in CLI is "softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.26'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages"
[02:33] <|Anthony|> i read it ;)
[02:33] <win98forever> I could run it under a Windows VM, but my computer doesn't have Intel VT.
[02:33] <somsip> win98forever: ah - that's the one I changed to after finding 2.0X beta to be a bit flakey.
[02:34] <somsip> win98forever: any terminal errors?
[02:34] <|Anthony|> skype is a bit of a resource hog tbh
[02:34] <jrib> !who | Zeptis
[02:34] <NicoBressler> Hey all
[02:34] <cfhowlett> |Anthony|: take your word for it ... XFCE works for me!  (Slogan trademarked and registered.)
[02:34] <somsip> |Anthony|: so are my clients who use Skype...
[02:34] <NicoBressler> Finally installed Ubuntu and I have to say, BIG fan so far.
[02:34] <|Anthony|> LMAO
[02:34] <jrib> Zeptis: if you close software center, does apt-get work ok in a terminal?
[02:34] <trism> |Anthony|: interestingly, -38 was uploaded to -proposed in January so probably just got left behind, the release tracking bug dups on a bug for -39
[02:34] <lidar> NicoBressler, congrats :)
[02:34] <cfhowlett> NicoBressler: greetings.
[02:34] <Zeptis> jrib: yes it does, for the most part
[02:35] <jrib> Zeptis: "for the most part"?
[02:35] <Zeptis> jrib: the bug you directed me to is an example
[02:35] <win98forever> Yeah, I'll try using something other than skype untill Microsoft fixes skype, but thanks anyways.
[02:35] <NicoBressler> Trying to learn the ins and outs.
[02:35] <yam_> oh man I killed my ubuntu . I cant log in again . somebody help me
[02:35] <|Anthony|> trism, thanks for looking into it. I'm going to avoid the kernel updates from proposed
[02:35] <jrib> Zeptis: is that the only example?
[02:35] <Zeptis> pretty much, jrib
[02:35] <cfhowlett> NicoBressler: narrow your focus.  What one thing would you like advice on.
[02:36] <KM0201> win98forever: whats wrong w/ skype for linux (i find it works flawlessly for me... but ymmv)
[02:36] <bazhang> !manual | NicoBressler start here
[02:36] <lidar> NicoBressler, install myunity its great!
[02:36] <NicoBressler> cfhowlett: I'm trying to start programming in Python so I got an IDE for it
[02:36] <bazhang> !rute | NicoBressler and here
[02:36] <Zeptis> how does Software center need freedesktop?
[02:36] <jrib> Zeptis: what are you trying to accomplish now?  Getting drivers for your video card or something else?
[02:36] <win98forever> KM0201: Skype keeps loosing signal and going offline, and I have to restart it, which gets very annoying.
[02:36] <chspurgeon> willee-nilee: I can't get to nomodeset unless I'm missing something in the bios menu. Ones I get past the bios splash I get a non-reactive cursor
[02:37] <cfhowlett> NicoBressler: ok.  Python is over my head, but ask in this channel for help  or #python (might be ##python)
[02:37] <KM0201> win98forever: strange...
[02:37] <Zeptis> jrib: getting drivers for my video card so X doesn't default to intel
[02:37] <somsip> win98forever: if you start Skype in a terminal, you might get some error messages that could help
[02:37] <win98forever> Yeah, I'll try running from the terminal, thanks.
[02:37] <yam_> stopping recieving karnel message -starting the winbind daemon winbind- starting crash report submission daemon
[02:37] <jrib> Zeptis: does « jockey-gtk » offer anything?
[02:37] <yam_> I recieve this message [19:37] <yam_> stopping recieving karnel message -starting the winbind daemon winbind- starting crash report submission daemon
[02:37] <|Anthony|> win98forever, are you using video or just chat?
[02:37] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: you're booting 386/32 bit iso?
[02:38] <yam_> HELP
[02:38] <|Anthony|> yam_, state you question please
[02:38] <bazhang> yam_, patience
[02:38] <yam_> [19:37] <yam_> stopping recieving karnel message -starting the winbind daemon winbind- starting crash report submission daemon
[02:38] <|Anthony|> ah
[02:39] <chspurgeon> cfhowlett: Yes, and I've installed ubuntu on this machine before. I made the mistake of letting a friend borrow it
[02:39] <yam_> I just purged avg antivirus
[02:39] <Zeptis> jrib: you're awesome. Thanks for knowing that daemon's name.
[02:39] <yam_> and Ubuntu 12.04 died :(
[02:39] <|Anthony|> i wouldn't recommend anyone to use avg on ubuntu, but that's just me.
[02:39] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: dang.  Gotta ask though, how'd the friend mess things up?  Guest account doesn't allow system changes, so ...?
[02:39] <Ububegin> how to know whether my ubuntu OS is 32 or 64 biy
[02:39] <Ububegin> bit, i mean
[02:40] <jrib> Zeptis: it's "Additional Drivers", "Hardware Drivers", "Restricted Drivers", or something like that in one of the menus
[02:40] <jrib> Ububegin: uname -m
[02:40] <h22turbo> Ububegin: type uname -a in terminal and paste results here
[02:40] <|Anthony|> or uname -a
[02:40] <h22turbo> is it says x86_64 (i think) then its 64 bit
[02:40] <Zeptis> lol, hello again
[02:41] <Zeptis> signal 11 again
[02:41] <chspurgeon> cfhowlett: No, I gave him the laptop as a stand in, gave him a clean install to convert him to ubuntu. Was successful as well, but I couldn't boot the machine once he returned it.
[02:41] <h22turbo> if it says something about i686 or i386... then its 32 bit
[02:41] <amy_> Hey folks. Is anyone on good with network data analysis/management and might know some good apps for monitoring various machine usages?
[02:41] <amy_> both for windows systems and linux ones?
[02:41] <Ububegin> h22turbo: UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:42] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: first, get a new friend.  :)  So the user account had admin privileges?
[02:42] <__Eggman> Zeptis: what video card are you running?
[02:42] <yam_> hey I purged avg and now my ubuntu is down?? any guide?
[02:42] <h22turbo> Ububegin: you are using Ubuntu 64 bit
[02:42] <chspurgeon> cfhowlett: he had sudo and a clean install
[02:42] <lidar> yam_, do you havbe a shell ?
[02:42] <h22turbo> yam_: purged avg?
[02:42] <|Anthony|> yam_, what do you mean you purged avg?
[02:42] <Zeptis> _Eggman: nVidia 9650m GT rev:a1
[02:42] <h22turbo> removed it?
[02:43] <yam_> purge is kind of uninstalling I guess.
[02:43] <yam_> command
[02:43] <lidar> yam_, "purge" brutalizes because you probably removed half the gui files
[02:43] <__Eggman> Have you installed the nVidia drivers? I've never heard of them causing a sig 11
[02:43] <Spiify> Hello all
[02:43] <yam_> oh my gosh I m the best in destroying my os
[02:43] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: ah.  My $0.02, use a non-admin account for daily use and save the admin for, well, admin stuff.  But that's only because I've done the 0200 in the a.m. "Oh ****!" what did I just do?
[02:43] <yam_> is there anything that I can do now
[02:44] <cfhowlett> !purge|yam_
[02:44] <Ububegin> h22turbo: gracias bro
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Spiify: greetings
[02:44] <h22turbo> Ububegin: :)
[02:44] <chspurgeon> cfhowlett: yeah, I think I'm coming around to your line of thinking after this
[02:45] <saied> hi
[02:45] <WeThePeople> hi
[02:45] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: wish I could help, but that nomodeset should have worked.  the workaround is to get the alternate installer iso.
[02:45] <lidar> WeThePeople, hi
[02:45] <yam_> ubottu: You mean I should purge the rest of files left from my ubuntu ??
[02:45] <cfhowlett> WeThePeople: greetings
[02:45] <Spiify> So i have a question that may sound silly. Can ubuntu be installed on a freshly built cp with no os
[02:46] <cfhowlett> Spiify: not silly and yes it can
[02:46] <yam_> is that real he always repead it . is it joke or sth?
[02:46] <chspurgeon> cfhowlett: ill give that a try, thanks for your help!
[02:46] <cfhowlett> chspurgeon: best of luck.
[02:46] <lidar> Spiify, no question is silly!! well yours kind of is but of course it can be installed
[02:46] <|Anthony|> yam_, that is a bot
[02:46] <yoof> yes
[02:46] <h22turbo> yam_: u can boot ubuntu in recovery mode, drop to a root shell, then reinstall it to get back to your desktop
[02:47] <Smackbook> does adding a drive to an mdadm array overwrite its partition table?
[02:47] <MonkeyDust> yam_  ubottu is a (ro)bot
[02:47] <yam_> so should i do what he says dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[02:47] <yoof> how much programming knowledge does it take before i can write code for ubuntu
[02:47] <yoof> ?
[02:47] <h22turbo> yam_: then try to remove it again (try google for proper way to uninstall AVG on ubuntu)
[02:47] <MonkeyDust> yam_  and ubottu is a girl
[02:47] <|Anthony|> yam_, may i suggest that in the future you use clamav
[02:47] <WeThePeople> !ubotto
[02:48] <jrib> yam_: wait
[02:48] <h22turbo> yoof: thats a pretty open question... code what? what language? umm... cant really be answered
[02:48] <|Anthony|> yam_, it is in the ubuntu repos and is (imho) superior to the commercial options
[02:48] <agc93> Has anyone else had the NVIDIA API Mismatch errors with the new drivers?
[02:48] <yoof> i am beginning c++ right now
[02:48] <jrib> yam_: do you understand that that command will remove all configurations from packages you've uninstalled?
[02:48] <Spiify> Haha i was thinking about building a pc for the first time and i am on a strict budget figured ubuntu would be the eay to go
[02:48] <lidar> yoof, you cvan contribute to almost any project ... if its a good patch the maintainer will use it
[02:49] <yam_> yep
[02:49] <__Eggman> yoof: I would suggest reading the GNU guide to C/C++ programming, it is very well written and has plenty of examples
[02:49] <h22turbo> yoof: you can download many C++ IDEs for ubuntu to code and compile
[02:49] <Zeptis> hello again: I'm in jockey-gtk, and I'm looking at 4 drivers; they all seem to be directing me to a /usr/share/doc/ section I don't have a directory for.
[02:50] <cfhowlett> Spiify: very wise.
[02:50] <h22turbo> Zeptis: i always download the drivers from the actual company website (nvidia.com, etc) and install like that
[02:50] <agc93> After I installed the latest NVIDIA drivers, X won't start because of a mismatch with the kernel module.
[02:51] <agc93> I don't think that will work
[02:52] <Zeptis> h22turbo: >>Unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in '/lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic/build'
[02:52] <h22turbo> agc93: did u remove the nouveau modules?
[02:52] <Zeptis> from the nvidia-installer.log
[02:52] <yoof> great, i will check out the gnu guide to c/c++ programming
[02:52] <zykotick9> h22turbo: nvidia.com drivers are usually a bad idea on ubuntu... jockey is a MUCH better idea.
[02:53] <h22turbo> oh, u need to download your kernel source/headers, uninstall the nouveau modules, then install nvidia drivers
[02:53] <h22turbo> zykotick9: i get better performance with nvidia.coms drivers.... way better than the jockey drivers
[02:53] <zykotick9> !wfm
[02:54] <lidar> its not the "ubuntu" way but i always built my own kernel and then used nvidia drivers from website
[02:54] <__Eggman> yoof: It's a small pdf, I would also hang out at #ubuntu-programming (though it's usually a ghost town)
[02:55] <Zeptis> h22turbo: if I did the universal metapackage for headers and source, I just need to uninstall nouveau, right?
[02:55] <h22turbo> agc93: there is tons of howto guides on installing nvidia.coms drivers on ubuntu. it will show you step by step how to do everything.
[02:56] <h22turbo> Zeptis: yea, but just to be safe... I'd do a uname -a and download the correct ones... the meta packages should work fine tho
[02:57] <h22turbo> and install the build-essential package
[02:58] <Spiify> Does ubuntu run well on low end processors?
[02:58] <h22turbo> Zeptis: apt-cache search linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:58] <Zeptis> Spiify: not out of the box, use xbuntu for that
[02:58] <__Eggman> Spiffy: Depends, GNOME can be kind of heavy handed on your graphics, I'd suggest trying Lubuntu or Kubuntu which feature lighter-weight desktop environments
[02:59] <cfhowlett> Spiify: lubuntu and xubuntu both run well on low-spec machines are are designed to do so
[02:59] <h22turbo> Spiify: depends on the desktop env u use... gnome and kde would be pretty sluggish on a low end pc
[02:59] <h22turbo> Spiify: try xubuntu
[02:59] <yam_> I cant log in my ubuntu . how can i back up by desktop to a flash drive?
[02:59] <euryale> hi guys
[02:59] <Zeptis> h22turbo: having the pae won't confuse my driver installer, right
[02:59] <lidar> yam_, boot off live cd
[02:59] <cfhowlett> euryale: greetings
[02:59] <Zeptis> yo euryale, what up?
[02:59] <h22turbo> Zeptis: nope
[02:59] <Zeptis> cool
[03:00] <euryale> i cant login to ubuntu 11.04 im using tty
[03:00] <Spiify> Should i stay away form amd?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> Spiify: imo, yes
[03:00] <__Eggman> Spiify: AMD procs? GPUS?
[03:00] <yam_> lidar: what do you mean?
[03:00] <Zeptis> spiify: nah, but hyperthreading is cool, if you can afford it.
[03:00] <Spiify> Procs
[03:00] <h22turbo> yam_: boot from live cd... or boot in "recovery mode" and drop to root shell
[03:00] <somsip> Spiify: Age Related Macular Degeneration?
[03:01] <__Eggman> Procs are fine, GPUs (and their driver support) are a different story
[03:01] <lidar> hyperthreading is slow under load
[03:01] <Zeptis> ah~ the great no-driver vs burning-car argument
[03:01] <__Eggman> >.<
[03:01] <Zeptis> lol
[03:02] <forecle> talk
[03:02] <agc93> I just had a quick search and turns out there actually aren't any guides on the net that work with the new NVIDIA drivers. They usually fail after the first reboot.
[03:02] <cfhowlett> forecle: ?? what?
[03:02] <somsip> agc93: new ones from where?
[03:02] <lidar> yam_, use the install disk .. or usb stick as a recovery tool
[03:02] <forecle> chat
[03:03] <forecle> verything
[03:03] <Zeptis> h22turbo: so, I got my headers, I got my source, so I just need to remove the nouveau xorg, right?
[03:03] <agc93> NVIDIA website, or the xorg-edgers PPA, possibly also X-Swat. Haven't checked what they're up to
[03:03] <yam_> ok how lidar
[03:03] <cfhowlett> forecle: this is ubuntu support.  have you a question?
[03:03] <yam_> Im in boot shel now
[03:03] <yam_> root shel
[03:03] <Zeptis> yam_: startx?
[03:03] <Spiify> So say pentium G630 vs amd Athlon II X3?
[03:04] <forecle> no
[03:04] <lidar> yam_, you might be able to just apt-getr install ubuntu-desktop
[03:04] <somsip> agc93: I think you've already been advised that NVIDIA drivers may not be suitable, but if current drivers are not working, instal official repo drivers or an old version of XSwat, etc...
[03:04] <forecle> i'm have question
[03:04] <Zeptis> shoot, forecle.
[03:04] <__Eggman> Spiify: Either is good, the G630 would use less power IIRC it's a 65W but most of the i3's use closer to 35 regardless of their TDP rating
[03:04] <cfhowlett> !ask|forecle:
[03:04] <agc93> somsip: Repo ones don't seem to support multimonitors on my card, which is kind of a deal-breaker for me. Will try old XSwat
[03:05] <h22turbo> Zeptis: no... u have to blacklist the kernel module from loading... do a google search on install nvidia ubuntu
[03:05] <yam_> command not found lidar
[03:05] <Zeptis> !nvidia > zeptis
[03:05] <Zeptis> play it again, James.
[03:05] <h22turbo> lots of howto guides on installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[03:05] <somsip> agc93: I played with a few and XSwat seemed to have a good rep. I'm on dual monitor here on an old card with official drivers, but different models may be dodgy
[03:06] <agc93> somsip: ok, I'll have a look. My early attempts at using multiple cards for triple monitors resulted in a borked install but I might be able to get duals working
[03:06] <yam_> what is the command to coppy my desktop to usb
[03:06] <Spiify> Would ubuntu run good enough on either of those with 4GB DDR3?
[03:06] <Zeptis> okay, I'm going to write this down this time so I don't forget syntax
[03:06] <somsip> agc93: how are you settng it up? With nvidia-settings or a manual method?
[03:06] <agc93> yam_ what are you trying to copy?
[03:07] <yam_> my desktop
[03:07] <agc93> somsip: nvidia-settings mostly. Xorg.conf never works for me anymore
[03:07] <Zeptis> Spiffy: RAM would be fine, but the processing on unity will be somewhat slow
[03:07] <agc93> yam_ you're going to need to be more specific
[03:07] <h22turbo> yam_: cp /home/XXXX/Desktop /media/USB/ (or whatever ur USB is mounted as)
[03:07] <__Eggman> agc93: What card? have you tried nividia-current
[03:07] <somsip> agc93: ok - that worked easily for me, so seems to make sense
[03:07] <__Eggman> nvidia*
[03:07] <yam_> a folder named ubuntu traing  for ex
[03:07] <agc93> nvidia-current from where?
[03:07] <Zeptis> unity+lightdm+ubuntu= ~700MB on RAM, Spiify.
[03:07] <agc93> the one from X-Swat didn't work
[03:07] <__Eggman> agc93: apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[03:08] <h22turbo> yam_: i dont think u just want to backup your desktop.... u prob mean everything? the complete ubuntu
[03:08] <lidar> yam_, apt-get install i typoed it
[03:08] <agc93> The one from jockey is allegedly already installed
[03:08] <__Eggman> agc93: Also, not all cards support triple head
[03:08] <h22turbo> yam_: what are u trying to backup/save?
[03:08] <agc93> __Eggman: which is why before I tried with multiple cards. That was what broke it first
[03:08] <wade> Sorry to interrupt, has anyone successfully made a 12.04 bootable flash drive for an Intel Mac?
[03:09] <yam_> h22 yep
[03:09] <h22turbo> yam_: if your do just your Desktop... its only going to save your desktop icons and whatever is on your desktop
[03:09] <amy_> #cacti
[03:09] <amy_> er, sorry.
[03:09] <amy_> meant to type /join there
[03:10] <__Eggman> agc93: what card(s) are you using? Typical multicard, multimonitor setups use xinerama + twinview, but GT/GTX 6xx series can support up to 4 monitors out of the box
[03:10] <Spiify> Are the Llano line any better or should i stay away from them
[03:10] <yam_> lidar: I corrected it now but still does not work
[03:10] <lidar> yam_, what error ?
[03:10] <__Eggman> Spiify: Weak cores, strong GPUs, depends on the computers intended use
[03:10] <h22turbo> yam_: umm, why are u backing everything up on a usb stick? i would just backup what u need/want like docs, pics, etc... then reinstall ubuntu fresh...
[03:11] <F1CCC> #channel 10
[03:11] <agc93> __Eggman: older than that. I've tried a couple of combinations of GeForce 210's, 9800's, 9600's and 8400's. None of them work properly. Turning on Xinerama usually breaks, but TwinView works for just two of them
[03:11] <yam_> lidar: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:11] <Spiify> General, media, light to moderate gaming
[03:11] <lidar> h22turbo, yam_ purged a program so probably uninstalled 3/4 of the desktop app x all kinds of things
[03:11] <yam_> lindar: unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[03:11] <lidar> yam_, your not root ?
[03:12] <h22turbo> yam_: just backup whatever u need... like documents, pictures, important stuff like that.... then do a fresh install of ubuntu
[03:12] <yam_> lidar: its writen here root@sam:#
[03:12] <h22turbo> yam_: why are u backing up a broken ubuntu to a usb stick?
[03:12] <somsip> agc93: GF210 here on 295.40 official with dual screen
[03:13] <agc93> somsip: with Xinerama or TwinView?
[03:13] <yam_> trying to do the same h22
[03:13] <ict> asd
[03:13] <__Eggman> Spiify: If you intend on gaming I'd go with an nvidia discrete card, I can't recommend AMD for a GPU, though you may have success with the OSS drivers
[03:13] <ict> advice?
[03:13] <yam_> I m not Im tring to backup my desktop files
[03:13] <cfhowlett> yam_: maybe backup your /home data and clean install at this point?  Broken system is broken.  Fix it or lose it.
[03:13] <lidar> yam_, make a live cd to run from .. back up important stuff then just start over .. it "is|" fixable however faster easier for you to start over im sure
[03:13] <somsip> agc93: Option         "TwinView" "1"
[03:13] <__Eggman> either the G930 or the x3 will be fine, which ever fits better into your budget
[03:14] <yam_> lidar: I dont know what is live cd
[03:14] <somsip> agc93: big monitor on DFP and little one on CRT. Worked very easiy with nvidia-settings
[03:14] <__Eggman> depending on the games you intend to play, I'd start with a GT640 (~$110 USD) and work your way up depending on your needs
[03:14] <yam_> lidar: please be simple Im new
[03:14] <cfhowlett> !live cd|yam_
[03:15] <h22turbo> yam_: live cd is ubuntu iso burnt to a CD. u can boot up ubuntu in a live env from the CD
[03:15] <__Eggman> agc: sorry to leave you hanging, I don't have any experience w/ twinview :(
[03:15] <cfhowlett> yam_: you can also create a live USB
[03:15] <yam_> I installed it from a bootable usb
[03:15] <cfhowlett> yam_: same same
[03:15] <yam_> I still have it
[03:15] <h22turbo> yam_: that will give u a graphical desktop again... then u can mount your ubuntu partition and save whatever u want and also try to fix your problems
[03:16] <bruteforce> yam_: then the bootable usb is your live media
[03:16] <yam_> how step by step? please
[03:17] <agc93> somsip: just tried apt-get installing nvidia-current, rebooting, then all my monitors appear as disabled in nvidia-settings. If I change one back to Separate X Screen and restart X, Compiz crashes, Unity never loads and the desktop is unusable. With just one monitor
[03:17] <h22turbo> yam_: google is your friend man... use it... esp if you are new to linux and trying to do stuff. google has millions of step by step howto guides with pictures and everything
[03:17] <h22turbo> yam_: a lot easier than somebody tryin to type everything out on IRC
[03:17] <cfhowlett> yam_: plug in your usb, reboot, change the bios to booot from the usb and then install.  You said you did this already so it's the same process.
[03:18] <somsip> agc93: ah, well I'm not in unity/compiz so I'm not sure how badly that might affect things. If I paste xorg.conf would that help?
[03:18] <agc93> somsip: maybe. I was more just getting at the fact that wasn't working.
[03:18] <yam_> cfhowlett: I did it before but it will erase all of my files
[03:19] <h22turbo> yam_: google search ubuntu live cd recovery and u will find lots of howto guides on what you are trying to do
[03:19] <somsip> agc93: then maybe I can't help more. I'm no expert - I just have the same config and, except for some kernel module build problems I had, this worked out of the box for me
[03:19] <cfhowlett> yam_: which is why you backup your /home first.
[03:19] <somsip> agc93: the module is loading ok is it?
[03:19] <yam_> which I failed to do the backup
[03:19] <agc93> somsip: Not sure. Seems to be. lsmod has it there. But nvidia-settings thinks all of my displays are disabled
[03:20] <h22turbo> yam_: it will not erase all your files... you are just booting from cd/usb... then you must mount the actual partition u installed ubuntu on... then u can make changes to it and/or fix it
[03:20] <yam_> thats all I need a back up
[03:20] <Spiify> How about a prntium g640t for cpu?
[03:20] <_pepitor> hi buddiesanybody knows what's up with undernet servers? I can't connect!
[03:20] <cfhowlett> _pepitor: servers are changing over.  It'll be awhile ...
[03:21] <h22turbo> yam_: like i said, google ubuntu live cd recovery (use the same process even tho you are using live usb)
[03:21] <somsip> agc93: this may be unrelated, but I did have the same. Make sure that the module is present and built for the kernel you're running. That whatever you show for uname -r is in the list of modules built by dpkg when you install the drivers
[03:21] <_pepitor> okie, long time I don't log into IRC...  thanks! :)
[03:21] <yam_> tell me what to google h22
[03:21] <h22turbo> yam_: backup important stuff like pics, docs, whatever... then format ur hard drive and do a fresh install of ubuntu
[03:21] <__Eggman> Spiify: Good, but it may struggle on some games
[03:22] <h22turbo> yam_: ubuntu live cd recovery
[03:22] <agc93> somsip: That's what the original problem was. NVIDIA's drivers off the website build the 304.43 driver, but with a 173 module, so they fail. I can't work out how to force the module version
[03:22] <somsip> agc93: Purge everything nvidia. Start again.
[03:22] <h22turbo> yam_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryBackupRecovery
[03:22] <agc93> somsip: done that. Twice :(
[03:23] <agc93> somsip: all of this is from a clean install because I keep having to reinstall
[03:23] <ict> hi
[03:23] <cfhowlett> ict: greetings
[03:23] <ict> wew
[03:23] <somsip> agc93: and this is with 295.4 or the drivers from NVIDIA website?
[03:23] <vendy> Can someone answered my question about sdcard at askubuntu.com/questions/180903/card-reader-ever-been-read-but-now-cannot
[03:24] <h22turbo> yam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode - then drop to root shell
[03:24] <agc93> somsip: no since 295.4 isn't current anymore. Now 304.43 is the latest one. I think that's whats causing the problem
[03:24] <h22turbo> theres many ways to do it... just use google and read up
[03:24] <ict> like
[03:24] <ict> ask google
[03:24] <agc93> vendy: if you have a question, just ask it. Otherwise, people will reply to your AskUbuntu question if they know the answer. You dont need to ask here to answer there
[03:24] <somsip> agc93: ok -0 when I say current, I mean nvidia-current from the official repo. Has that changed?? I only got 295.4 about a week ago
[03:25] <agc93> How do I tell without GUI?
[03:25] <somsip> agc93: use minimal/aternative install
[03:25] <somsip> agc93: and 295.4 is the lastest official driver. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/nvidia-current
[03:26] <Spiify> Are there games that are graphics intensive on Ubuntu?
[03:26] <agc93> somsip: I just did apt-get install nvidia-current this time, so I should have 295.4 then
[03:26] <cfhowlett> Spiify: alien arena and the flight sims
[03:26] <nydel> Spiify: there is red eclipse, which is a wonderful fps
[03:26] <SolarisBoy> supertux
[03:26] <vendy> Aug 27 16:15:08 vendy-Aspire-4540 bluetoothd[636]: Unregister path: /org/bluez/636/hci0
[03:26] <vendy> Aug 27 16:15:08 vendy-Aspire-4540 bluetoothd[636]: Endpoint unregistered: sender=:1.47
[03:26] <vendy> path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink
[03:26] <vendy> Aug 27 16:15:08 vendy-Aspire-4540 bluetoothd[636]: Endpoint unregistered: sender=:1.47
[03:26] <vendy> path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource
[03:26] <FloodBot1> vendy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:26] <chad_> chdb
[03:27] <nydel> aw poor vendy, i was just about to try & help with that.
[03:27] <Spiify> Any mmorpgs?
[03:27] <somsip> agc93: and you cleared out everything before? I can't understand how it's building a 173 module if the package for 173 has been purged. Unless it's not building the module and an old one is still in there. Any error messages from dpkg?
[03:27] <agc93> somsip: i didnt see any. Definitely cleared out. Its a fresh install. Will try again. Hang on a sec
[03:27] <vendy> After running this command tail -f /var/log/syslog
[03:28] <cfhowlett> Spiify: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18297/list-of-free-mmos-for-ubuntu
[03:29] <agc93> somsip: atm, it's giving me NV driver version 173.14.35. This is getting weird
[03:29] <vendy> My card reader is disconnected by ubuntu after inserting it... Why??
[03:29] <nydel> Spiify: are you looking for something to play, or are you looking for source code?
[03:29] <somsip> agc93: I purged nv and nouveau when I had my problems. X was very ugly, but it gave me a clean starting point
[03:29] <agc93> somsip: and apt-get reports that nvidia-current is still the current version.
[03:30] <somsip> agc93: any errors from dpkg when building the modules?
[03:30] <h22turbo> yam_: ur going to have to get use to using google and reading a lot. learning linux takes a long time and takes a lot of patients, a lot of reading, and following howto guides found on the internet
[03:31] <agc93> somsip: just that it didnt match either of the quirks (it shouldn't have) and that there was no module before, so installing to lib/modules etc etc
[03:31] <Spiify> Just looking at options
[03:31] <Spiify> To play
[03:31] <MonkeyDust> yam_  you're going to start with the basics, like you did with windows or macOS
[03:31] <somsip> agc93: and it's installed the the correct kernel src dir? What's your uname -r?
[03:31] <vendy> Can someone answered my question on askubuntu.com/questions/180903/card-reader-ever-been-read-but-now-cannot.... Now im using tablet and difficult to write my question....
[03:32] <yam_> Yeah you right I need  to read alot of things to learn linux like what i did for win
[03:32] <agc93> !patience | vendy
[03:32] <h22turbo> os[Linux 3.2.0-29-generic-pae i686] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 873.7MB, 73.8% free] disk[Total: 73.5GB, 34.2% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[03:32] <h22turbo> oops
[03:33] <h22turbo> sry
[03:34] <Zeptis> h22turbo: I'm in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build; what does nvidia look for in this dir that I wouldn't have?
[03:34] <h22turbo> Zeptis: no idea? did u get a error msg or something?
[03:35] <Zeptis> yes I did, h22turbo: >>Unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in
[03:35] <Zeptis>        '/lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic/build'
[03:35] <membreya> looking for assistance with Ubuntu .  It recognises the touchscreen and I can drag in the console to highlight but it wont recognise the use of the launcher or the x _ - buttons
[03:35] <Zeptis> !pasting > ubottu
[03:36] <membreya> do i need to use another UI?
[03:37] <Zeptis> h22turbo: apt get output >>nvidia-current is already the newest version
[03:37] <Zeptis> !nvidia > zeptis
[03:38] <|Anthony|> are there any known caveats to updating 10.04 to use a 3.x kernel?
[03:38] <membreya> anyone?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !search > /e
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !search > /me
 wants you to know: Search factoids for term: !search <term>
[03:40] <Guest95517> Eghads...  I finally freed up a hundred gigs on a vista partition.  Now how do I make it part of my current ext4 partition?
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: boot from live cd/usb and resize your partition to include the freed space.
[03:41] <Zeptis> Mr or Mrs 95517: I recommend Gparted
[03:41] <membreya> can someone recommend where to get assistance for touch screens then?
[03:41] <Guest83188> curious I am wondering is there a sybase database version for oracle or is sybase only for microsoft machines ?
[03:42] <Guest83188> I am assuming NO but just throwing it out there and lettin it brew
[03:42] <AndroUser> Hello
[03:42] <ki4ro_> Why doesn't system monitor show I'm on 12.04.1?
[03:42] <cfhowlett> AndroUser: greetings
[03:43] <Zeptis> 83188;
[03:43] <Zeptis> 83188; *I'm also assuming no, but have you tried using wine?
[03:43] <AndroUser> How can I make ubuntu root user password random again?
[03:43] <membreya> Zeptis, you seem to be the resident oracle...any tips?
[03:44] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, I'm on a livecd now.  gparted won't let me incorporate the 100 gigs of unformatted space indo sda5
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: won't let you?  you get error msgs?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: paste a screenshot?
[03:45] <agc93> simsop: thanks for your help. I have duals going at the moment (res is a bit off) and will try and fix the rest myself.
[03:45]  * Zeptis is no oracle, and has only ever used ODAC with FreeBSD
[03:45] <cfhowlett> !paste|guest95517
[03:45] <Zeptis> membreya, I'm sorry, but I have no experience with touchscreens
[03:45] <somsip> agc93: cool.
[03:45] <GabriellleGN> holoa
[03:45] <GabriellleGN> necesito ayuda urgente, por favor
[03:45] <cfhowlett> !es|GabriellleGN:
[03:46] <membreya> thanks anyways zeptis :)
[03:46] <Zeptis> which model is it, Membreya?
[03:46] <deper29> hey, i am kind of stuck trying to setup autofs to mount an nfs share. I go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs#Create_.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-auto.nfs and try following example 4, but have a few questions. can someone help?
[03:47] <AndroUser> The way the root password is when you first install... I want it back :-P
[03:47] <membreya> iliteck multi-touch according to xinput --list
[03:47] <jrib> !root | AndroUser
[03:47] <jrib> AndroUser: that wiki page explains how
[03:47] <TeruFSX> I just installed kubuntu and it appeared to have misconfigured grub, causing a file not found error on boot
[03:48] <TeruFSX> also if you want root sudo passwd would work iirc
[03:48] <cfhowlett> !grub|TeruFSX  try restoring/reinstalling grub.
[03:48] <AndroUser> Thanks jrib
[03:48] <Zeptis> Androuser: alternatively, you may want to boot into Recovery-mode
[03:48] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, no.  I try to resize sda5 and I can't seem to add anything. http://static.inky.ws/image/2678/image.jpg
[03:48] <TeruFSX> windows was installed beforehand
[03:49] <Zeptis> via Grub2 that is, Androuser.
[03:49] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to change charset to iso8859-1?
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: unallocated needs to be next to the partition you want to resize.  You gotta move stuff around.
[03:49] <AndroUser> I can't even see my grub menu zeptis
[03:50] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, I don't see how
[03:50] <yoof> using microsoft visual studio 2010 and lovin it
[03:50] <Zeptis> Hold shift at startup and pray to the machine spirits, Androuser.
[03:50] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: select unallocated and move it next to /dev/sda5??
[03:50] <bpcomp> I have an xsession problem if anyone is willing to help
[03:50] <AndroUser> Its an old nvidia card :-(
[03:51] <deper29> i'm wanting to use autofs to mount an nfs share, can someone help?
[03:51] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, move is grayed out
[03:51] <bpcomp> I somehow started an xsession :1 and can't figure out how to kill it
[03:51] <Zeptis> Androuser: holding shift should show grub2, even if hidden by default. Can anyone confirm this?
[03:51] <Spiify>  So i know this is a ubuntu chat but anyone want to take a shot at a windows question for me
[03:51] <yoof> sure, lets hear it
[03:51] <cfhowlett> Spiify: nope.  ##windows
[03:52] <bpcomp> lol
[03:52] <yoof> i use windows 7
[03:52] <Zeptis> Spiify: PM me.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> Zeptis: I thought it was up/down arrow?
[03:52] <AndroUser> I understand but my monitor can't showanything between.bios and login.
[03:52] <Guest95517> Spiify, maybe privately, but don't complain if someone makes fun of you -- I've had enough of a Vista box this week that I might not be nice. :)
[03:53] <bpcomp> any help for killing an xsession?
[03:53] <Zeptis> Androuser: just because it's not showing anything, doesn't mean it's not hidden via X.conf
[03:53] <Zeptis> bpcomp: do you know how to get into tty?
[03:53] <bpcomp> yeah
[03:53] <bpcomp> I'm ssh'd into the offending box
[03:54] <Zeptis> bpcomp: tty, then if you're using vanilla ubuntu, lightdm stop
[03:54] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, how do I move it if I select it in gparted and the move option is grayed out?
[03:54] <vendy> any forum can answered question fast
[03:54] <WeThePeople> why doesnt the pop out menu stay put when i try to select something with my mouse from the bottom parts
[03:54] <TeruFSX> well a full reinstall didn't fix it, cd time
[03:54] <AndroUser> Zeptis you don't know my computer. My monitor says red too high. But I'll fix it later.
[03:55] <bpcomp> Zeptis: Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager, do you have appropriate permissions?
[03:55] <AndroUser> Res asterick
[03:55] <Zeptis> bpcomp: lol, sudo
[03:55] <bpcomp> I did
[03:55] <membreya> alright it seems to work sporadically..not so much for the launcher but in control panel and dragging.  I noticed that the video drivers are not installed
[03:55] <bpcomp> that was the result
[03:55] <membreya> could this be causing performance issues for the touch screen?
[03:55] <Spiify> Maybe i should just find a windoze chat lol
[03:55] <bpcomp> it is a mythbuntu box
[03:56] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: been awhile since I moved/resized.  The doomsday option is to delete /dev/sda4 which will reassign the freed space to unallocated.  then reboot/reinstall
[03:56] <membreya> the video card is an Intel GMA 3150.  Shouldn't that be in the default install?
[03:56] <bpcomp> I was playing with trying to forward X over SSH
[03:56] <Zeptis> bpcomp: no shit? sudo init 3
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !language|Zeptis:
[03:57] <bpcomp> ok
[03:57] <bpcomp> I'm at runlevel 3
[03:57] <vendy> why after i installed sdcard and running command tail -f /var/log/syslog the result is like this Aug 27 16:21:44 vendy-Aspire-4540 kernel: [  840.954578] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[03:57] <vendy> Aug 27 16:21:51 vendy-Aspire-4540 kernel: [  847.454513] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[03:57] <vendy> Aug 27 16:21:54 vendy-Aspire-4540 kernel: [  850.832212] usb 1-5: USB disconnect, device number 3
[03:57] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, I've already got their data (it's a friend I'm trying to convert to xubuntu -- they're out of disk space because Vista is retarded and I got sick of fighting with it the first go 'round about repartitioning) where I want it so I don't want to reinstall
[03:58] <Zeptis> bpcomp: mythbuntu still uses GDM, right?
[03:58] <bpcomp> lightdm
[03:59] <Zeptis> I guess try tty and lightdm stop, again.
[03:59] <bpcomp> same result
[03:59] <bpcomp> when I cat .xsession-errors
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: not sure you'll be happy for long as it is.  you've already used 5.47 of 5.66 gigs of available space...
[04:00] <bpcomp> I get this line
[04:00] <bpcomp> /usr/bin/x-session-manager: X server already running on display :1
[04:00] <vendy> hellooooo can anybody answered mine....
[04:00] <Zeptis> bpcomp: is there another user still logged in?
[04:01] <bpcomp> me ssh
[04:01] <bpcomp> should I kill that and do local tty only?
[04:01] <Zeptis> bpcomp: you may have to do that.
[04:02] <bpcomp> I'll give that a show
[04:02] <bpcomp> shot*
[04:03] <Zeptis>  brb, honey nut nvidias
[04:03] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, I could create a new partition and just mount it somewhere, but I'm not sure what the best schema would be.  The box won't boot to ubuntu right now, and I think it's because the guy filled it up with some new software.  Wondering if I make the partition /home or wherever software gets installed...
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: won't boot linux as in defaults straight into Vista?
[04:04] <membreya> the video card is an Intel GMA 3150.  Shouldn't that be in the default install?
[04:05] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, no, it gets so far past grub then bleah....  Something about a broken pipe at this point, but the disk was totally full before I started clearing out old apt caches and trying to repartition.
[04:05] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: also, if he's running vista and has only 250 gig HDD, I'm guessing this is an older box which means MBR scheme.
[04:06] <Zeptis> 95517: 'broken pipe' is an error returned by X11, if that's any help in narrowing it down.
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: you got issues, son.  :)  Assuming you're not contemplating "fixing" Vista, seems to me the best option is to optimize ubuntu.  You're limited as there're already 3 primary partitions, so you can't add another primary without violating the mbr and breaking things.  My suggestion?  Delete/Reinstall (pita, I know, but whatchagonnado?
[04:08] <Guest95517> Zeptis, and it only happened after an update, which I don't think the fellow had room for when he ran it
[04:09] <Zeptis> can you run a liveCD, 95517.
[04:09] <Zeptis> *?
[04:09] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, I've now got the Vista partition shrunk to 100 gigs less than what it was.  It only need to run in April, as it has turbotax that the guy needs for taxes.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: by the way, if you go that way, assign a larger a / partition.  1 or 2 updates and that things going to max out.  You;ll need to clean out the .debs with sudo apt-get clean, but your user won't know that, will he?
[04:09] <Guest95517> Zeptis, I'm on a xubuntu 12.04 livecd right now, on the box in question
[04:10] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, that's what I'm trying to do.
[04:10] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, the / I mean
[04:10] <Zeptis> oh cool; what flavor of Xorg is his installation using?
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Zeptis: guest95517's gparted >> http://static.inky.ws/image/2678/image.jpg
[04:11] <Guest95517> Zeptis, I installed xubuntu on his box off this livecd
[04:11] <membreya> touch screen worked after reboot.  Where is the USB drive mounted however?
[04:12] <membreya>  ./media ...nevermind ;)
[04:12] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, hang on... I might be all set.  I've never moved stuff with gparted.  Usually I use fdisk and just delete everything.  I quit windows years ago and haven't had to worry about dual boot since
[04:15] <Zeptis> 95517: select the unallocated space, then device>create partition table, no?
[04:16] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I'm trying to get Postfix configured based on https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postfix.html#postfix-sasl  That section on SASL says to add a block to the  socket listen {... section, but I can't find that in any of the configuration files.  Where is that supposed to be?
[04:16] <Guest95517> Zeptis, I'm trying to leave the Vista partition alone, so I Guess I keep shifting things about until I get the unallocated space next to sda5...  Dunno if that will work yet.
[04:17] <Zeptis> 95517: and you can't move /dev/sda4?
[04:17] <testingz0> http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[04:19] <Guest95517> Zeptis, there were alread four priamry partitons.  I guess that was shooting me in the foot.  The vista partition being secretly corrupted (rather like politicians, no?) was something that has been shooting me in the other foot that I just didn't know yet.
[04:19] <LiDaR> dj_segfault, you "should" be able to put settings in any one of the config files ...
[04:19] <dj_segfault> LiDaR: thanks
[04:20] <cfhowlett> Guest95517: fixed?
[04:20] <Guest95517> cfhowlett, waiting...
[04:21] <testingz0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1794186
[04:22] <grendal_prime> ok this is reallllly pissing me off
[04:22] <cfoch> hello... I'm in a Live CD. I can't install some programs, because they're not found. What could I do?
[04:22] <grendal_prime> i neeeeeed to be able to write these to dvd.  I have done this before with 10.04
[04:22] <grendal_prime> on this same machine
[04:23] <Zeptis> grendal: so, you converted your AVI -> mpeg2, and then what happened?
[04:23] <Zeptis> cfoch: which programs?
[04:23] <grendal_prime> i got 3 machines here and two of them I know i have done this on before..but for some reason now..with 1204 i get as far as. ya that part..i have the files in mpeg2 format
[04:24] <cfoch> Zeptis: for example testdisk, audacity, scalpel
[04:24] <grendal_prime> but brasero gets...2-25 megs into "converting to mpeg format" wich it is already in...and it stops working
[04:24] <Zeptis> grendal: have you attempted using a different DVDburner, or making an ISO then burning that?
[04:24] <osmosis> how can I get libboost1.37-dev  for precise?
[04:24] <grendal_prime> these dvd burners work fine..it never even gets to that phase
[04:25] <grendal_prime> thas what im talking about i cant even write them to iso
[04:25] <Zeptis> grendal: you might also consider 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure brasero'
[04:25] <Zeptis> if you haven't that is
[04:25] <grendal_prime> ya ill give it a shot
[04:26] <Zeptis> cfoch: did you load the programs onto the LiveCD when you made it?
[04:27] <cfoch> Zeptis: seems they're not found in the repos
[04:29] <lickalott> anyone know of a way to see/monitor if someone is accessing your NFS shares.  *they are hosted over apache
[04:29] <Zeptis> cfoch: you may want to apt-add-repository
[04:30] <Zeptis> cfoch: canonical was down for a number of people yesterday in this chat.
[04:33] <Ann-Mariya> Is there any password cracker for ubuntu other than John The Ripper ???
[04:33] <cfoch> btw...
[04:34] <cfoch> I've remove my /home/user/* files
[04:34] <cfoch> what can I do to recover my files with the structures?
[04:34] <membreya> the video card is an Intel GMA 3150.  Shouldn't that be in the default install?
[04:34] <cfoch> I mean the directories and not only my files with random names
[04:34] <Ann-Mariya> membreya: ya. ofcourse
[04:35] <membreya> it says unknown
[04:36] <Ann-Mariya> Is there any password cracker for ubuntu other than John The Ripper ???	(I prefer GUI)
[04:36] <Ann-Mariya> help
[04:36] <wan26> hashcat
[04:37] <membreya> and how do i install mono for wine for .net apps?
[04:37]  * Ann-Mariya : Nobody here responses
[04:37] <wan26> Ann-Mariya, hashcat.
[04:38] <LiDaR> !patience > Ann-Mariya
[04:38] <Ann-Mariya> wan26: ya
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !patience|Ann-Mariya:
[04:38] <Ann-Mariya> Is there any password cracker for ubuntu other than John The Ripper ???	
[04:38] <wan26> I answered you
[04:39] <grendal_prime> ya i get a bunch of this when i stop execution
[04:39] <grendal_prime> ++ WARN: [brasero] Stream bd: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=58368 required(DTS)=14400
[04:39] <cfoch> haha xD
[04:39] <Crawly> grendal_prime: Error: "brasero" is not a valid command.
[04:39] <Ann-Mariya> hashcat ?
[04:39] <Ann-Mariya> wan26 :  thanks
[04:39] <grendal_prime> whatever that means
[04:39] <LiDaR> Ann-Mariya, if the computer is yours .. there is probably a better method besides 'cracking'
[04:40] <Ann-Mariya> LiDaR: cracking win 7 password from ubuntu 12
[04:41] <LiDaR> Ann-Mariya, there are tools to just reset it ..
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Ann-Mariya: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14369/change-or-reset-windows-password-from-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[04:41]  * Ann-Mariya :bnm
[04:42] <wan26> Ann-Mariya, they look like better options, as your isp may have policies against downloading things like hashcat
[04:42] <Nomad> I'm getting an error that says, "This kernal is not supported on your CPU" or something to that affect.  Trying to install he latest x86 version of Ubuntu.
[04:42] <LiDaR> Nomad, you have 32bit / 64bit mixed up?
[04:43] <Nomad> No, 32-bit is what I mean.
[04:43] <cyrano_> I'm having a weird issue with my dell latitude d630 (12.04 with MATE) where it seems to boot just fine when connected to my dock. But when I try to boot it when not connected to the dock it takes longer to boot and shows a message in the plymouth boot theme stating that it is trying to connect to network then eventually counts down from 60 to give up and finish booting. Once it eventually boots the network manager does not show up in th
[04:43] <breazyseas> ?
[04:44] <LiDaR> Nomad, what does uname -m say ?
[04:44] <Nomad> I don't know what you mean by that
[04:44] <LiDaR> Nomad, your on ubuntu now ?
[04:45] <Nomad> No, I am on Windows XP now.
[04:45]  * cfhowlett oh the humanity!
[04:45] <wan26> what does it say under cpu in system,hardware?
[04:45] <Nomad> I am tryin to install ubuntu 32-bit on an IBM thinkpad t-42
[04:46] <Nomad> Intel Pentium M Processor 1.7Ghz
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Nomad: you might want to try x/l/ubuntu.  They work better on older and low spec machines.
[04:46] <Nomad> I don't know what you mean by x/l/ubuntu
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|Nomand
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|Nomad
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu|Nomand
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu|Nomad
[04:47] <LiDaR> Nomad, go for the lxde its nice on slow computers
[04:47] <amicrawle> does any body know how to get a dell inspiron 1501 to see if it is a x86 or a x64
[04:48] <Zeptis> h22turbo: MAD PROPS!
[04:48] <Zeptis> screenshot soon
[04:48] <LiDaR> amicrawle, open a shell types uname -m
[04:48] <wan26> it has a 64 bit processor so
[04:48] <amicrawle> well right now i'm using i386
[04:49] <amicrawle> not sure if the hardware needs x64   i386 dvd
[04:49] <grendal_prime> im trying something called dvd styler
[04:49] <Zeptis> amicrawle: that means no x64 iso
[04:49] <grendal_prime> it seems to be working its doing the transcodding and whatnot.
[04:49] <LiDaR> amicrawle, if your cpu is 64bit .. use amd64
[04:49] <cfhowlett> amicrawle: needs?  no.  32 bit willl run
[04:49] <amicrawle> it does use amd 64
[04:50] <amicrawle> thats what it said on the sticker on the laptop
[04:50] <Nomad> once I have xubuntu intalled, what's the command to install unity?
[04:50]  * Zeptis slaps Zeptis
[04:50] <LiDaR> amicrawle, then download a amd64 iso to install from
[04:50] <amicrawle> what i'm puzzled about it  uses  i386
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Nomad: umm, unity does NOT play well on older machines...
[04:50] <amicrawle> the splash screen crashes
[04:51] <amicrawle> will not load
[04:51] <cfhowlett> amicrawle: amd64 can and does boot 32 bit ubuntu
[04:51] <amicrawle> the screen trips out
[04:51] <Nomad> I'm farily certain that it'll run on my system
[04:51] <Nomad> I have a 128mb dedicated gpu.
[04:51] <xangua> Nomad: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <Zeptis> h22turbo: check this out, http://i.eho.st/pphdnowo.png
[04:51] <Zeptis> ubuntu in ~200MB
[04:52] <cfhowlett> Nomad: then just install ubuntu.  Oh wait..
[04:52] <amicrawle> just wantes to make sure my dvd was right for the cpu
[04:52] <h22turbo> Zeptis: nice
[04:52] <grendal_prime> oh man that thing works great!!!!
[04:53] <grendal_prime> gave me a preview and built the menus for me to...
[04:53] <grendal_prime> bitchen
[04:53] <Zeptis> h22turbo: you and everyone else at #ubuntu deserve a pat on the back
[04:53] <Zeptis> grendal: what package, now I'm curious?
[04:53] <h22turbo> Zeptis: thats what its all about... helping others with linux
[04:54] <Zeptis> is there a #ricing on this server? lol
[04:54] <amicrawle> 89549c1c5e5f5b029d83a794cd6a837de84ef7024d3d1bffd4e9b2da6579b0d00ab32ef9c7ced09f47178458013bb0fd
[04:55] <LiDaR> Zeptis, what program is showing your system stats ?
[04:55] <h22turbo> as long as I can keep 1 person away from microsoft... and use linux, im happy! lol
[04:55] <Zeptis> LiDaR: that is Screenfetch, taken from the Arch repos with git.
[04:55] <Zeptis> LiDaR: it's a bunch of silly nested checks, but it's awesome
[04:56] <Zeptis> H22turbo: are you ready for Linux-native steam for ubu?
[04:56] <LiDaR> Zeptis, looks nice im gonna get it
[04:56] <Zeptis> Go git it, LiDaR. it's sweet.
[04:56] <membreya> Intel GMA 3150...how to install
[04:57] <Zeptis> membreya: do you know how to open a terminal?
[04:57] <h22turbo> Zeptis: ehh, i really dont play many games... just Quake Live, Enemy Territory, and Urban Terror
[04:58] <LiDaR> im using 790mb of ram !
[04:58] <Zeptis> LiDaR: because unity and lightdm is hueg
[04:59] <Zeptis> I was using >1GB, and I raged, hence my two day gutting of my system.
[04:59] <Nomad> Ok, since my CPU is unsupported...
[04:59] <Nomad> Or, not PAE supported.
[04:59] <h22turbo> LiDaR: I only have 1 GB lol
[05:00] <wan26> im using 161mb of ram, finally
[05:00] <LiDaR> heh i have 6 gigs of ram so im doing ok
[05:00] <Nomad> A good workaround would be too... install ubuntu ver 10.04, and then simply upgrade to 12.04.  That'd work right?
[05:01]  * Zeptis claps for wan26's inspirational story
[05:01] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html Nomad
[05:01] <wan26> another clap for dumb sarcasm
[05:01] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know the command that causes everything in the buffer to be written to disk, I've seen it somewhere but cant remember it
[05:01] <ChogyDan> BlackWeb: sync
[05:02] <h22turbo> BlackWeb: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man2/sync.2.html
[05:02] <BlackWeb> :) Thank You ChogyDan
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise?(ati grafix card)
[05:02] <LiDaR> i dont have anything to do tomorrow so maybe i will enter the lowest amount of ram competition !
[05:02] <Nomad> Well that was my next option
[05:03] <Zeptis> lotuspsychje: what is a "corrupt square mouse"?
[05:03] <Zeptis> louspsychje: the cursor?
[05:03] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje: google square mouse ubuntu fix
[05:03] <BlackWeb> Thanks h22turbo :)
[05:03] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje: google square mouse pointer ubuntu
[05:04] <LiDaR> lotuspsychje, were you here yesterday or so with same problem ?
[05:04] <h22turbo> i dont see why its so hard for people to use google. ive been here for like 2-3 hours... and every question asked here has a solution/answer just by doing a simple google search
[05:04] <LiDaR> !google
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !google|h22turbo
[05:05] <king_cobra> too many trackers on google..
[05:05] <h22turbo> well thats just dumb... cause ive answered every question here in the past 3 hours just by doing a simple google search then copy and paste them the answer here
[05:05] <ChogyDan> h22turbo: I agree with you.  Folks should at least give google a try.   It's frustrating when you google for it, and it is like the top result
[05:05] <LiDaR> back when i started using linux people were mean i was told go google it and rtfm a few timeslol
[05:06] <h22turbo> if they're that lazy... or dumb... they dont need to use linux lol
[05:06] <h22turbo> go back to winblows
[05:07] <BlackWeb> Samehere LiDaR lol :)
[05:07] <h22turbo> just my opinion tho...
[05:07] <king_cobra> thank you h22
[05:08] <timatooth> eggs benedict
[05:08] <LiDaR> ill be back starting the pursuit of low ram usage!!
[05:08] <king_cobra> try linux, if you don't like it, it's ok, microsoft will take your money
[05:09] <king_cobra> all of it
[05:09] <timatooth> king_cobra: indeed
[05:09] <ChogyDan> or, folks will just use a mac
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> LiDar:as long as the problem still satys ill ask every day
[05:10] <king_cobra> if they can afford it.. expensive crap
[05:10] <LiDaR> there we go 265 ram
[05:10] <timatooth> posix on mac is out of date
[05:10] <LiDaR> lotuspsychje, did you try restarting x ?
[05:10] <Zeptis> anyone else experienced with openbox?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Zeptis: square mouse pointer is corrupt, not a pointer anymore..but disformed
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> LiDaR:command?
[05:12] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje: cd / then rm -rf / then install windows
[05:12] <h22turbo> jk dont do that....
[05:12] <Adie> >:/
[05:12] <king_cobra> ha.. that's funny
[05:12] <Adie> people need to stop saying "rm -rf" in here -.-
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo: you think it didnt google it yet..strugling on this bug for years now
[05:13] <Adie> It's not funny, especially when people here are often new to linux and looking for support
[05:13] <Adie> ^___^
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Adie: i agree on that
[05:13] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje: http://www.google.com/search?q=square+mouse+pointer+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=ubuntu&channel=fs
[05:13] <h22turbo> try those results?
[05:13] <LiDaR> lotuspsychje, sudo service login-manager restart
[05:13] <h22turbo> tons of results about that bug
[05:13] <Adie> is chromium going to work better than chrome?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> LiDaR:ok tnx lemme try that later on the machine, you think it would help?
[05:14] <Adie> or maybe I should use firefox? idk. I am using chrome now it's it's pretty buggy :<
[05:14] <ChogyDan> Adie: not particularly.  the flash is a bit different
[05:14] <LiDaR> lotuspsychje, probably not
[05:15] <king_cobra> firefox is a really good browser.. not so buggy
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo:ive been reading them all already, nothing suggested helped me
[05:15] <LiDaR> lotuspsychje, however if restrting x makes it go away then there may be a setting in your x config to fix it
[05:15] <aslan> Hi all,
[05:15] <aslan> I am working in ubuntu for past few weeks .
[05:15] <aslan> Name[1]="apple"
[05:15] <aslan> Name[2]="orange"
[05:15] <aslan> echo ${Name[1]}
[05:15] <FloodBot1> aslan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <aslan> Expected result is apple.But I got a error as "Bad substitution" .what is the reason
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> LiDaR:where can one find settings of x
[05:17] <aslan> Hi all,I am facing array bad substitution error even the code is correct.Name[1]="apple" ;Name[2]="orange" ;echo ${Name[1]} Expected result is apple.But I got a error as "Bad substitution" .what is the reason
[05:18] <ChogyDan> aslan: works for me
[05:18] <Dawn262> Blah.  I forgot how to log in as root.  I need to copy some images to my /backgrounds folder and it won't let me til I am root
[05:18] <aslan> ChogyDan, what should I do for you
[05:18] <Dawn262> help the brain damaged blonde!
[05:18] <LiDaR> sudo !
[05:18] <Adie> Dawn262, try sudo nautilus
[05:19] <ChogyDan> Adie: Dawn262 no, don't do that please
[05:19] <Adie> will open nautilus as root, and you can copy anything anywhere
[05:19] <Adie> ^_^
[05:19] <aslan> Hi all,I am facing array bad substitution error even the code is correct.Name[1]="apple" ;Name[2]="orange" ;echo ${Name[1]} Expected result is apple.But I got a error as "Bad substitution" .what is the reason
[05:19] <Adie> WHY
[05:19] <Adie> :(
[05:19] <FloodBot1> Adie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19]  * Dawn262 higgles the pee out of Adie
[05:19] <ChogyDan> !gksu | Adie Dawn262
[05:19] <yoof> yes
[05:19] <Dawn262> ermmmm
[05:20] <Dawn262> I just want to copy a .jpg to the /backgrounds folder and change the permissions there
[05:20] <king_cobra> i just id that Dawn262.. the only way i could do it was to login at the login screen as root.. i wasn't able to do it in the terminal
[05:20] <king_cobra> did*
[05:20] <Adie> so then... gksudo nautilus?
[05:20] <Adie> am i right?
[05:21] <Adie> Dawn262, you don't need to log into ubuntu as root to do that.
[05:21] <Dawn262> ??
[05:21] <Adie> you simply need to open a file manager as root
[05:22] <Dawn262> yeah   but I forgot how to do that!
[05:22] <Dawn262> dain bramage
[05:22] <Adie> nautilus is the default one in ubuntu, so if you use "gksudo nautilus" you shoudl have no issue copying
[05:22] <Dawn262> will try     brb
[05:22] <Adie> just don't delete your filesystem while you do that D:
[05:22] <Adie> I did that once for fun. it worked....
[05:22] <king_cobra> well i was havin bug issues with permissions but that's fixed now
[05:31] <aslan> Hi all,I am facing array bad substitution error even the code is correct.Name[1]="apple" ;Name[2]="orange" ;echo ${Name[1]} Expected result is apple.But I got a error as "Bad substitution" .what is the reason
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupted square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise (ati grafix card, after a reboot problem vanish)
[05:34] <fishbait> anyone got a deb file or source for adobe flash player 11.1 because 11.2 is broken
[05:35] <zIz> aslan: that's not really a ubuntu issue
[05:35] <Drakiz> aslan: tried echo ${correct.Name[1]} ?
[05:37] <tsimpson> aslan: make sure you are using the bash shell, not /bin/sh
[05:37] <fishbait> lol linux has joined ubuntu
[05:37] <membreya> trying to use Mono to run a .net application and it's saying I need libgluezille installed...but it is according to the software centre
[05:38] <fishbait> anyone got a deb file or source for adobe flash player 11.1 because 11.2 is broken
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: did you install restricted extras?
[05:38] <Drakiz> membreya: maybe versions differ ?
[05:39] <fishbait> whats the repository for that?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | fishbait
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: i also thought my 11.2 was broke after installing this it fixxed
[05:40] <membreya> Drazik: I have both 4.0 and 2.0 CLI installed
[05:40] <fishbait> ty i'll try the issue is that i use opera and flash randomly crashes luckily opera uses plugin wrapper so the browser doesn't crash
[05:40] <membreya> all it states is "libgluezilla not found.  to have webbrwser support, you need libgluezilla installed"
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: you installed from web or software centre?
[05:41] <fishbait> apt-get install
[05:41] <octavio-rdz> hi, room is anyone having problems with aptitude and ubuntu 12.04.1 (fresh install)
[05:41] <xangua> !aptitude | octavio-rdz
[05:41] <jayd3e> how do you get a package up on one of the default ubuntu package repos?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: ok i would try the extras first, if not work you can try the web one too
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> octavio-rdz: what excaclty is your issue?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> jayd3e: software centre?
[05:43] <fishbait> i show ubuntu-restricted-extras as installed looking at synaptic
[05:43] <octavio-rdz> it doesnt work ...  aptitude is linked against a not existed library I did a ldd
[05:43] <aslan> zIz, Drakiz,tsimpson, I'm using bash i edited the first line of the command to bash
[05:43] <Guest39692> hi, I need help with ubuntu 1204
[05:43] <octavio-rdz> ldd result   libcwidget.so.3 => not found	libept.so.1.0.5.4.12 => not found
[05:43] <jayd3e> lotuspsychje: nvm guess I need to file a bug to launchpad to get a package added
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: if you have it already, its indeed not a codec issue, try the installer from web?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Guest39692
[05:44] <fishbait> it still might be trying re-install could just be wonky from kernel upgrades
[05:45] <membreya> could it be because im running both 2.0 and 4.0?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> fishbait:yes playing a bit install:uninstall does the trick mostly
[05:45] <LiDaR> wb Zeptis
[05:45] <Zeptis> thanks for the welcome, LiDaR
[05:46] <Zeptis> getting some segfaults out of Openbox, so I switched to the xedgers repos, because they support weird stuff.
[05:46] <octavio-rdz> !patience
[05:46] <fishbait> if my years with windows have taught me one thing its that codecs can be very finnicky when you change the computers brain
[05:46] <Zeptis> If I suddenly disappear, you know what happened.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: lucky your windows years are over noew :p
[05:48] <fishbait> no go not the codecs
[05:48] <Zeptis> did your x-windows problem get solved, lotus?
[05:48] <LiDaR> Zeptis, i bacame my quest for low mem footprint down to 260 ish
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Zeptis: well im not at the desktop atm, but this is really a hard one
[05:49] <Zeptis> LiDaR: time to start using that freed space to run servers, fold proteins, and contact ET :P
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Zeptis: we tryed yesterday generating a xorg.conf adding few mouse lines, didnt workout
[05:49] <fishbait> going offline gonna try the install from flash player download center
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: ok good luck
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: you might wanna uninstall the current one
[05:53] <LiDaR> Zeptis, my laptop wouldnt make a very good server
[05:54] <Zeptis> hi again, also, that's a drag, LiDaR.
[05:54] <yam_> where can i learn to install tar.gz packages?
[05:54] <yam_> what should i google?
[05:54] <Zeptis> yam_: tar.gz is an archive file
[05:54] <crizis> tar zxvf
[05:54] <LiDaR> yam_, compile from source
[05:55] <yam_> thanks lidar :)
[05:55] <LiDaR> yam_, you should avoid .tar.gz on ubuntu if at all possible you can break things fairly easily
[05:55] <crizis> no you can't
[05:56] <Zeptis> oh, no wonder I'm having problems with X. My system is insane.
[05:56] <yam_> LiDaR_: I prefer to use deb packages but sometimes they dont exist
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Zeptis: the strange part is after i reboot, the square mouse is gone..till i cold boot afew time after
[05:57] <yam_> and do i need to update clamav my self or it updates automaticly?
[05:58] <LiDaR> yam_, your running a mail server  ?
[05:58] <crizis> yam_, you can install 'checkinstall' package, then you can do "checkinstall -D -y" instead of "make install" so you get .deb out of sources which can be easily uninstalled
[05:58] <yam_> LiDaR_: nop
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> yam_:does clamav have rootkit support?
[05:58] <LiDaR> yam_, no benefit to running an antivirus
[05:59] <kostasa> hi!!!
[05:59] <LiDaR> antivirus only good for mail/file servers on windows networks
[05:59] <yam_> I use the same usb on ubuntu and windows so i can carry them to my win
[05:59] <yam_> carry --->transfer
[06:00] <yam_> :)
[06:00] <crizis> clamav doesn't really detect anything so it's waste of time
[06:00] <crizis> it's only useless for filtering worst big viruses out at mail servers
[06:00] <crizis> *useful
[06:01] <coolstar> crizis: http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition
[06:01] <IBM1234> hi kostasa
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> crizis:what you recommend for rootkits and usb autorun protection?
[06:01] <h22turbo> running a antivirus on linux is pointless.... if anything, get a rootkit scanner
[06:01] <crizis> lotuspsychje, common sense
[06:01] <fishbait> no luck flash still crashes on some videos
[06:02] <yam_> i register for avast but it never send me the activation code
[06:02] <xormor> h22turbo, chkrootkit, http://www.chkrootkit.org
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo: every day linux servers get exploited...dont tell me its pointless
[06:02] <fishbait> i need a download for 11.1 11.2 is broke on some machines
[06:02] <h22turbo> getting exploited and viruses/malware is 2 totally different things dude.... lol
[06:02] <coolstar> fishbait: HTML5 video still works, riet?
[06:02] <h22turbo> a antivirus is not going to protect your server or linux pc from getting exploited
[06:03] <IBM1234> now is an xploit and a virus the same thing, b/c then will the antivirus check for xploits?
[06:03] <crizis> lotuspsychje, "linux servers" hardly get exploited that often, crappy web software is what gets exploited usually
[06:04] <h22turbo> IBM1234: a exploit (or your pc getting exploited) and a antivirus scanner is 2 totally different things. a antivirus will not help in any way and will not detect a exploit if your computer is vulnerable
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> crizis: to stay a bit ontopic, you saying an ubuntu server is fully safe against specialized rootkits?
[06:05] <fishbait> i tried re-install of codecs tried install flashplugin-installer then sudo su cd /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[06:05] <IBM1234> h22turbo: I understnad that which makes sense to me
[06:06] <fishbait> am i being ignored for noobism or is this genuinely stumping
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !patience | fishbait
[06:06] <IBM1234> how about that USB autorun protection ? is there one for linux?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: just re-ask your question once in a while mate
[06:07] <crizis> lotuspsychje, that's pretty unanswerable question
[06:07] <crizis> lotuspsychje, capable admin can prevent getting any specialized rootkits on the server, to put it shortly
[06:08] <fishbait> of course i remembered rm libflashplyer.so before cd
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> crizis: i know common sense can save us alot of trouble, but still every day new tricks in tha house to exploit linux servers
[06:08] <h22turbo> IBM1234: u dont need one for linux.... autorun stuff works on windows... and malware that uses USB spread (autorun) only works on windows
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> fishbait: you got same troubles on other browsers?
[06:08] <Zeptis> fishbait: I segfaulted, what's the issue?
[06:09] <IBM1234> h22turbo: nice!
[06:09] <h22turbo> IBM1234: just install rkhunter... thats really all u need
[06:09] <h22turbo> rkhunter --update
[06:09] <h22turbo> then
[06:09] <h22turbo> rkhunter --check
[06:09] <IBM1234> thank you
[06:10] <h22turbo> np
[06:10] <h22turbo> there is malware and viruses for linux... but its pretty rare
[06:10] <h22turbo> u dont need a antivirus tho
[06:11] <crizis> lotuspsychje, 1) allow ssh only from certain ip's/hosts which you really need 2) install only services you actually use 3) mount /home and /var/www with noexec flag so you can't run binaries out of them, 4) jailkit the ssh users unless absolutely needed, and you've already done the job almost impossible for 99.99% cases
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo: thats a dangerous thing to say..
[06:11] <h22turbo> even downloading from torrents, limewire, etc... or browsing the web to an infected (drive-by) website that infects computers.... will 99.8% of the time not infect a linux computer
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> crizis: i agree that ssh is a danger for remote intrusion
[06:12] <yam_> do i need to update clamav or it updates itself
[06:12] <crizis> + etckeeper so /etc keeps version controlled, install unattended-upgrades for security..
[06:12] <Crawly> crizis: Error: "etckeeper" is not a valid command.
[06:12] <crizis> Oo
[06:13] <rawfodog> is there a way to find out how many watts my power supply is with ubuntu ?
[06:13] <rawfodog> or whatever its messured in
[06:13] <Blue1> rawfodog: if it is an apc unit yes
[06:13] <rawfodog> it's just whatever came with my tower
[06:13] <Blue1> rawfodog: there is also rtfm
[06:13] <h22turbo> if u get a virus, malware, rootkit, etc on your linux pc.... its because you dont have a fully updated system, you have some vulnerability that the "hacker" got in and installed the virus himself
[06:14] <IBM1234> will the application.....sysinfo .... provide the info rawfodog is looking for?
[06:14] <h22turbo> some vulnerability as in open VNC or weak pass on VNC or SSH
[06:14] <h22turbo> hacker accesses it, then installs the malware, backdoor, rootkit, etc himself
[06:14] <trijntje> h22turbo: not completely true, linux can have unpatched exploits like any other system. For example the recent java exploit
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo: lets stick with ubuntu topic
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: thats a realistic approach finally
[06:15] <IBM1234> Now if you have a good firewall then you strengthen your volnerabilities
[06:15] <h22turbo> yea, but the malware being spread is 99.8% of the time for windows pcs
[06:15] <crizis> theoretical scaremongering is waste of time
[06:15] <Blue1> they way I run vnc is strange but secure.  It requires ssh into the box, starting the vnc server manually, remaining logged in, then another password to start the vnc session.  it works
[06:15] <LiDaR> your all off topic!!!
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> yes lets keep ontopic guys
[06:15] <Blue1> yes we are
[06:15] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje: worry about ur convo... we are talking about ubuntu/linux
[06:16] <h22turbo> pay attention and quit acting like the channel police... trying to tell people what to do
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> so howto make sure an ubuntu system is 100% safe?
[06:16]  * KM0201 agrees with h22turbo 
[06:16] <h22turbo> we're talkin about linux computers being infected with malware and viruses
[06:16] <IBM1234> h22turbo: Agree
[06:16] <susundberg> imho no system is 100% safe
[06:16] <tsimpson> please keep the conversation respectful and on topic
[06:16] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: there is not such thing as 100% safe
[06:16] <h22turbo> susundberg: true
[06:17] <IBM1234> It will never be 100% safe
[06:17] <susundberg> to be very sure you can always boot from live-dvd, without any user data
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: still alot of security is on ubuntu's website, saying its very safe already
[06:17] <IBM1234> thers is always going to be that someone that does it
[06:17] <KM0201> security starts w/ with the knuckleheads that are pounding on the keyboard... if that fails, trust me, no OS is safe.
[06:17] <susundberg> in the media that is read-only malware cannot write changes ..
[06:18] <Blue1> there is also a security through obscurity measure -- port 22 is blocked to the outside world - works inside the lan - if you want to ssh from the outside, you can move the listening port.
[06:18] <h22turbo> i know a lot about viruses, spreading malware, botnets, etc etc... and its very very rare your linux box will be infected by one browsing the web or downloading stuff from the internet (like movies, music, programs from known websites)
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> susundberg: how sure are we there is not a new-style mallware that can intrude ubuntu?
[06:18] <Blue1> rootkits are hard, but not impossie
[06:19] <Blue1> impossible even
[06:19] <crizis> theoretical bullcrap
[06:19] <h22turbo> or even if u access a java drive-by website that infects computers... the malware will not (well, 99% chance) spread or infect a linux bot
[06:19] <h22turbo> *box
[06:19] <Adidas> :D
[06:19] <Adidas> aq
[06:19] <IBM1234> Why the worry about Viruses??
[06:20] <Adidas> nabýonuz
[06:20] <Adidas> len
[06:20] <FloodBot1> Adidas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:20] <KM0201> IBM1234: well, you have to worry about something
[06:20] <tonysan_> I got error on installing YAML on 11.10, anyone could help?
[06:20] <Adidas> S.a
[06:20] <fishbait> no luck flash still crashes under stress tried reinstalling ubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin-installer no luck tried sudo su cd /usr/lib/opera/plugin rm libflashplayer.so mms.cfg oem.cfg cd/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer cp libflashplayer /usr/lib/opera/plugins exit exit
[06:21] <KM0201> fishbait: is it only crashing opera, or all browsers?
[06:21] <h22turbo> on linux... its all about keeping your system updates, and knowing which services (vnc, ssh) you have open to the internet and securing them
[06:21] <Adidas> KM0201 colloquy windows patch ?
[06:21] <histo> tonysan_: what kind of error
[06:21] <h22turbo> *updated
[06:21] <fishbait> hmm i'll have to see it says i'm using 11.2.202.238
[06:21] <Bram_P> hi, when I want to live use ubuntu, or install it to disk I get this error http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6566/dsc00381t.jpg does someone know what it means?
[06:22] <KoketsoMabuse> morning. need help was upgrading from 10.4 to 12 and had to reboot machine before installation was done now system wont boot not continue with thw install it was finished with the download
[06:22] <tonysan_> histo: Make Running make test Make had some problems, won't test
[06:22] <KM0201> Bram_P: how much ram does your machine have?
[06:22] <fishbait> only opera
[06:23] <Bram_P> KM0201 I believe it has 4GB, it's a friends desktop of about 2 years old
[06:23] <Blue1> KoketsoMabuse: upgrades have been problematic for me -- I backup /etc/ and /home/ and then do a fresh install.
[06:23] <KM0201> fishbait: well, i'd say there's your solution, use firefox, chrome, chromium
[06:23] <KoketsoMabuse>  am also struggling to download it it times out after i have reached about 50% of the download
[06:23] <h22turbo> Bram_P: looks like a problem with ur video card? its not working with the nouveau kernel module.....
[06:23] <KM0201> Bram_P: and what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[06:23] <histo> tonysan_: what is yaml btw? Is it possible there is a package in the repos so you don't have to build from source?
[06:24] <fishbait> its the browser
[06:24] <tonysan_> histo: I got the message 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state while I am installing some perl packages
[06:24] <fishbait> going to check into downgrading opera *.*
[06:24] <KoketsoMabuse> fanx bro. i caused this crash that the thing
[06:24] <histo> tonysan_: what package are you trying to install from source and what is the error specifically you are getting?  I can guess all night but it will take a long time.
[06:25] <Bram_P> h22turbo, that's possible indeed. KM0201, I'm installing 12.04
[06:25] <KM0201> Bram_P: well, my first thought, would be to try the alternate install cd.
[06:26] <h22turbo> Bram_P: you can disable nouveau during boot... and use something else so it will boot up properly
[06:26] <tonysan_> histo: I am going to setup a bugzilla with its checksetup.pl, and it says I need to run "/usr/bin/perl install-module.pl SVN::Core"
[06:28] <tonysan_> The install-module.pl then checks YAML and output the error
[06:29] <IBM1234> How come Synaptic Package Manager doenst come now with ubuntu. You have to download it in Software Center
[06:29] <KM0201> IBM1234: because software center is considered a replacement for synaptic
[06:29] <histo> tonysan_: doesn't checksetup.pl just report missing dependancies?
[06:29] <tonysan_> histo: yes
[06:30] <KM0201> i just can't warm up to software center
[06:32] <IBM1234> It is not that bad I can just find more stuff in Synaptic
[06:32] <timfrost> !info libsvn-perl | tonysan_
[06:33] <histo> tonysan_: I would try asking the bugzilla people to get a better answer than anyone here.
[06:34] <tonysan_> histo: thanks
[06:35] <histo> tonysan_: irc.mozilla.org #bugzilla channel
[06:36] <IBM1234> Does anyone know a gui for... Users .... to control groups.  It seems as though in past distros I was balt to control it better in a gui rather then in the terminal
[06:36] <IBM1234> *able to control it better
[06:38] <johnf> Is it possible to download the original 12.04 server install media from anywhere  ie I don't want the 12.04.1 update
[06:38] <KoketsoMabuse> using BB and keeps knocking me off just missed messages from Adidas
[06:40] <fishbait> i located a lib flashplayer.so for 11.2.202.236 and swapped accordingly now opera works perfectly
[06:43] <fishbait> okay so the root issue is opera 12.01 is incompatible with flashplayer 11.2.202.238 for future reference the fix is to *completely remove* flash player 11.2.202.238 and install and older version 11.2.202.236 worked for me
[06:44] <fishbait> does that help any of you lurkers round her i hope so. XD
[06:44] <fishbait> *here
[06:44] <piquadrat> Hi. Is there any way to list the profiles that my bluetooth adapter supports?
[06:45] <Shimon> is there a way to pair a bluetooth device that does not support pin codes?
[06:45] <sikmajnd> Hello guys. I have a problem installing ubuntu with wubi. At the end this error occured -> http://shrani.si/f/1s/4O/1n9NRu75/capture.png
[06:47] <fishbait> sikmajnd: my only idea here were you running wubi as admin?
[06:48] <sikmajnd> i was running wubi as admin, yes
[06:48] <fishbait> sikmajnd: hmm waht windows are you using?
[06:49] <sikmajnd> win 7 32bit
[06:49] <fishbait> sikmajnd: welp shoots me in the foot i'm out of ideas
[06:50] <sikmajnd> (:
[06:51] <mboone> Having trouble with Hulu displaying the message, plug-in missing. Any idea what it is?
[06:51] <fishbait> mboone is it only hulu?
[06:51] <mboone> Let me check youtube, but I belive so
[06:52] <mboone> fishbait, youtube as well
[06:52] <mboone> I have adobe flash installed
[06:52] <fishbait> mboone: what browser?
[06:53] <histo> piquadrat: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/\
[06:53] <histo> piquadrat: sorry typo http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/
[06:53] <sikmajnd> @fishbait - i tried with cd boot and installation gets terminated by signal 15 [9028]
[06:54] <mboone> fish: both firefox and chrome, firefox simply doesn't show anything, as chome says missing plugin
[06:54] <fishbait> sikmajnd: try re-downloading?
[06:55] <fishbait> mboone: try sudo apt-get reinstall flashplugin-installer
[06:55] <mboone> On it
[06:56] <erbo> where does the "1:" in a version like 1:173-0ubuntu4.3 come from? what does it mean?
[06:57] <piquadrat> histo: how does that relate to my question?
[06:57] <erbo> trying to build a newer version my self but ubuntu thinks 1:173 > my 183 version
[06:57] <erbo> (by ubuntu I mean apt :) )
[06:57] <tsimpson> erbo: it's called an epoch, it happens when a version is uploaded but then needs to be replaced by an (numerically) older version
[06:59] <histo> piquadrat: sorry wrong person
[06:59] <erbo> tsimpson: thanks! do you know what part of the debian/* files controls the epoch info? I guess I need to use an epoch in my custom package as well.
[07:00] <tsimpson> erbo: debian/changelog
[07:00] <nabil> help
[07:00] <mboone> fishbait: Damn, it didn't fix the problem
[07:00] <nabil> sudo apt-get install smuxi
[07:01] <nabil> ubuntu
[07:01] <nabil> gain
[07:01] <gain> nabil: hi
[07:01] <rimal> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I am having a problem when i try to DUN connect my phone to my laptop using bluetooth. when i search to pair my phone, it didn't shows my phone detected although my phone is visible and within the range. Can anyone please help me?
[07:02] <fishbait> mboone: try restarting the browser if that doesn't work i'm stumped i'm still trying to troubleshoot a compatability problem between flash and my browser my self
[07:02] <nabil> sync
[07:02] <abhisinghal> hey I am using ubuntu 12.04 and it hangs most of the time.. What to do?
[07:03] <coellobranco> saludos
[07:03] <nabil> help.......i am using smuxi....wat's it used for?
[07:04] <zoran> hello there
[07:04] <nabil> -!- network list
[07:05] <zoran> pls anyone help me install bearpaw 1200cu plus 2 scanner on 12.04.1
[07:05] <susundberg> zoran: have you tried just plugging it in?
[07:05] <mboone> fishbait: Ya man it isn't working. If I find an answer I'll let you know
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> rimal, You are sure the computer has bluetooth hardware I assume, and you hit the discover on the phone
[07:05] <zoran> yes it is already plugged
[07:06] <fishbait> mboone: don't worry about it i'm using opera not firefox
[07:06] <zoran> used to have mint 13 now switched to ubuntu
[07:06] <zoran> remember there was something with firmware to install the scanner
[07:07] <zoran> but do not remember details
[07:07] <zoran> :)
[07:07] <erbo> tsimpson: got it now, got confused that the old src package didn't have the epoch in the version field in the changelog, but it seems to work when I add it there :)
[07:07] <erbo> thanks!
[07:09] <zoran> scanner help???
[07:10] <susundberg> zoran: you need to say what is the problem
[07:10] <zoran> can not get it to work
[07:10] <zoran> SIMPLE SCAN just shows NO SCANNER ATTACHED
[07:11] <zoran> pls someone tell me how and where to put gt68xx/PS1Dfw.usb things
[07:11] <zoran> think that would be a solution
[07:12] <susundberg> zoran: i would google with lsusb the instructions how to get it working
[07:12] <Benkinooby> hi i have a laptop which as a eth connector on it, but ifconfig only shows the link local interface. how can i find out if he has a working network card and in case activate it?
[07:12] <susundberg> zoran: or maybe also check dmesg what it shows when you attach the device
[07:13] <dagerik> unable to detect my external monitor i am plugging in. it does not appear in the 'displays' settings
[07:14] <susundberg> Benkinooby: try 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up'
[07:15] <Benkinooby> susundberg, ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[07:15] <Benkinooby> susundberg, maybe it has a connectur but no card attached to it?
[07:15] <Benkinooby> susundberg, it's a dell latitude laptop, pentium 3 desingend for windows 2000
[07:16] <Benkinooby> susundberg, let me chck the bios... maybe i find something there
[07:16] <mboone> fishbait: It's looking like the Restricted Extras package might solve the problem, I'll let you know
[07:17] <sam___> hey i can authorize my self with su command .  need help please
[07:17] <LiDaR> sam___, sudo su
[07:17] <zoran> i wrote DMESG huge text showed
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> sam___, sudo -i
[07:18] <soman> Hi all. Cannot build codelite Ubuntu 12.04 32bit. I'm getting error asm/errno.h: file not found. Here is etc/environment file's contents: C_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/include/i386-linux-gnu" CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/include/i386-linux-gnu". What could be a problem?
[07:18] <sam___> sudo su or sudo -i
[07:18] <sam___> ?
[07:18] <LiDaR> soman, looks like your missing gcc or parts of
[07:19] <tsimpson> sam___: use "sudo -i" if you want a "root shell"
[07:19] <geirha> sam___: «sudo -s» instead of «su» or  «sudo -i» instead of «su -»
[07:19] <soman> LiDaR: how can I fix it?
[07:19] <histo> soman: is there a reason you don't want to use codelite from teh software center?
[07:19] <sam___> I need it for compiling
[07:19] <sam___> whch one do i need?
[07:19] <tsimpson> sam___: you don't need to be root to compile anything
[07:19] <soman> histo: I need last from codelite's SVN
[07:20] <sam___> tar.gz packages i read it in a guide i should be root.
[07:20] <BlackWeb> is Anyone familiar with Samba, My Question is through the gui interface then I'm able to add a samba user thats not a user on the local linux system, which when doing so it asks for Windows Username, & password then above for Unix account it says asterisk, Well how would i do that on a server through commandline, so that a windows user can access share without having local account on actual server
[07:20] <LiDaR> soman, i dont remebr the package names off top of my head
[07:20] <k1l_> sam___: just use sudo <command>
[07:20] <sam___> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[07:21] <geirha> sam___: Then the guide is wrong. Only an install requires root, if you install it under /usr or /opt
[07:21] <k1l_> sam___: its the ubuntu way to not be root all the time. so most howtos which are for linux dont expect that ubuntu way
[07:21] <LiDaR> soman, apt-cache search gcc should show what you need maybe apt-cache search build
[07:21] <histo> sam___: you don't need tob e root to compile only to install. but the correct way would be sudo -i
[07:21] <timfrost> soman: the compile dependencies will be  needed.  They will be installed with 'sudo apt-get build-dep codelite'
[07:21] <geirha> sam___: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:21] <histo> sam___: I would suggest using checkinstall to install packages from source
[07:21] <histo> !checkinstall | sam___
[07:22] <dagerik> how do i troubleshoot that an external monitor is not detected by the 'Display' menu in the settings?
[07:22] <k1l_> sam___: why not using the ubuntu how tos on the ubuntu wiki?
[07:22] <zoran> please what should i do to have my scanner working...i need some help
[07:22] <sam___> wow thanks guy i got more that what i expected
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> zoran, With a quick look on the net I saw a debian and linux installs, appears to be a driver issuw and maybe xsane as well used
[07:24] <soman> timfrost: I got a message that I should fill sources.list. What does it mean? Should I add official repository's adress to those file or what?
[07:25] <timfrost> soman: what was the message (use a pastebin if it is more than one line )
[07:26] <Name141> When will 12.04 get a 12.04.1 ?
[07:26] <k1l_> Name141: did it already
[07:27] <Name141> k1l_: ah. Is there still billions of MBs to download in updates?
[07:27] <k1l_> Name141: ?
[07:27] <k1l_> Name141: think of it like the servicepacks on windows. they are steps where the updates get bundled for easier install
[07:27] <Name141> k1l_: I don't want to be outside of my FAP Free Window time after installing the OS. (1-6 AM) and it count towards my FAP.
[07:28] <soman> timfrost: the message in russian and I'm translating: no packages with source code were found for codelite. No one package will be updated installed or removed. E: you should fill sources.list putting sources' URI in it.
[07:28] <Name141> k1l_: I really should get off of Sat internet and their silly FAPs.
[07:29] <LiDaR> Name141, what country does that ?
[07:29] <Name141> LiDaR: USA.
[07:29] <k1l_> Name141: the reason for .1 release is, that you dont have to get all the updates since start. you only need the updates that came after that .1 release
[07:29] <Name141> LiDaR: Hughes(net)
[07:30] <LiDaR> Name141, time to switch :))
[07:30] <jessejammes> hola que tal
[07:31] <fidel> !es > jessejammes
[07:31] <fidel> jessejammes: this channel itself is english ;) & yes - hola ;)
[07:31] <thufir_> has anyone completed the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman guide?  it seems quite flawed...
[07:31] <jessejammes> sorry thanks
[07:32] <Name141> LiDaR: yeah specially since they are coming out with hard limitations on Hughesnet Gen4.  $100 for 20 GB daily FAP and "Extra Bytes" (The new "FAP Free Window) 20 GBs.  All together only 40 GBs a month for $100.
[07:32] <Name141> I assume they'll start rolling that down to old customers not on Gen4
[07:33] <timfrost> soman: there is a version of codelite in the universe repository (at least for 12.04/precise).  If you enable that repository, you should have access to the necessary packages.  You might also find that the version of codelite in the repository is suitabl;e, so that you don't need to build  frpom source
[07:34] <soman> timfrost: can it be because of I desabled I repository with source code version?
[07:34] <Bram_P> KM0201 I'm using the Alternate cd now, however I tried it a couple of times and it stays frozen at the second language screen
[07:38] <timfrost> soman: unlikely, but not impossible.  Usually, a compile needs binary packages that have '-dev' in there name (such as 'libc-dev'), to get header files
[07:38] <LiDaR> Name141, i would run out of bandwidth in like 1 week if i was limited like that
[07:39] <Name141> LiDaR: maybe we should move this to off topic ;o
[07:40] <xorox90> is there anyone who know why xmodmap didn't changed at all after `remove mod1 = Hangul` in .Xmodmap?
[07:41] <xorox90> what make me crazy... it changed  after logout & login wihle but it didn't changed after reboot
[07:43] <soman> timfrost: apt-get search asm/errno.h returned me 'linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/asm/errno.h' Does it mean that I already have this header (I think it's path's problems or something else)?
[07:43] <antero> #meego
[07:43] <antero> oops
[07:45] <cfoch> What happened with "Moovida"?
[07:45] <ganster> hi all
[07:46] <jalexandru> I need help with program defaults; I set up libreoffice-calc as default for xlsx files and that works ok for local files but if I open thunderbird go to an e-mail, select the attached xlsx and hit "open" the default is set to "gnome numeric" and I have to search for libre office in all my computer; is there anything I can do about it?
[07:46] <timfrost> soman: check 'dpkg -l linux-libc-dev'  - if that shows 'ii
[07:47] <timfrost> at the start of the line, then yes.  otherwise no
[07:49] <soman> timfrost: thanks, it's installed... I will try to remove environment's include variables and re-run 'make' now...
[07:50] <Benkinooby> how can i see if i have a networkcard in my computer. the laptop has a network plug but ifconfig only shows the lo interface
[07:50] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, lspci
[07:52] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, it lists vga controller, audio multimedia controller, bridge, ide interface, usb controller, two card bus bridges, pci bridge und host bridge
[07:52] <timfrost> soman: there may be other development packages that you need. On my system, I get the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171306/
[07:53] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, no ethernet controller ?
[07:53] <soman> timfrost: now all worked. 1st: I removed includes from /etc/environment file and get next same error... 2nd I add include paths again and now it's building...
[07:53] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, there is nothing about ethernet
[07:54] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, since the laptop is elderly i thought it might not have a network card
[07:54] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, but there is an ethernet plug...
[07:54] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, is it disabled in bios? or by a "hotkey" ?
[07:54] <soman> timfrost: Yesterday I built gcc 4.7.1 and as I understand I somethink broke in building system:(
[07:55] <jasonz> hi all when I try to buy a game from the ubuntu software centre it say ssl handshake failed.
[07:55] <Kevin1a> I'm nearing the limits of my frustration here.  Maybe one of you helpful individuals can ease my anger.  I am getting stuttering (cutting in and out, sounding robotic, popping and crackling) sound on my system.  I first experienced it using Window$ 7, and reinstalled the drivers a million times, tried 2 external soundcards (some of which linked to wireless headset so it can't be the cables), and tried just about everything else.  I got frust
[07:55] <Kevin1a> rated, blamed it on Window$, and installed Ubuntu on the second hard disk.  Strangely, I still have the issue.  What in the world could cause cutting-out audio that is cross platform, cross sound-card, CPU-load independent (happens even when playing a regular mp3), not a codec problem (problem occures in VLC which uses it's own codecs), etc.  Any ideas?  The system has decent specs.  Built in audio is Realteck, Audio Card I added is Creative
[07:55] <Kevin1a>  X-Fi Platinum Fatality Champion Series, also tried with Plantronics wireless headset.
[07:55] <ganster> /
[07:55] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, maybe a bios update ?
[07:56] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, i checked in the bios but did not find anything... hotkeys either
[07:56] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, maybe the card was optional... so it has the plug but not the card... or it's broken
[07:56] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, ok, thank you for your input
[07:56] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, put your entire output from lspci on pastebin
[07:57] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, ok, give me a sec
[07:59] <histo> Kevin1a: problem with the audio file you are trying to play perhaps?
[08:00] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, http://pastebin.com/hLRCJxJn
[08:00] <antero> Kevin1a: did you try adding pci=nomsi to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[08:00] <sunil__> hi
[08:01] <sunil__> im recieving this message after installing FSL software
[08:01] <sunil__> any one can help pls
[08:01] <sunil__> ?
[08:02] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, your right not there
[08:02] <Kevin1a> I wish it was.  I experience the problem with local and remote media.  Youtube and mp3, flac, ogg, etc. files on my local drive.  Also, in game audio.  I could look for a bios update.  This is going to make me sound like an idiot, and I probably deserve it despite running linux for almost 3 years now.  How do I look for a bios update? :)  I'm 25 and have never worked in the computer industry all I know about linux/computers is from screwing
[08:02] <Kevin1a> around and figuring stuff out.
[08:02] <sunil__> Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:02] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, look in bios again see if its disabled
[08:02] <sunil__> how to fix this?
[08:03] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, ok, will do that..but if i don't find anything i'd say it has not eth card. thank you for your time
[08:03] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, a bios update would be from manufacturer website its unlikely ... but it may be the solution
[08:04] <LiDaR> Benkinooby, if its physically present ... it should be there
[08:04] <Kevin1a> :(  No idea what the motherboard is.  This computer was literally pulled out of the trash at work.
[08:04] <Benkinooby> LiDaR, ok, thank you
[08:04] <sunil__> any one help me plsssss
[08:05] <antero> Kevin1a: if you want to try the pci=nomsi thing, remember to run update-grub and reboot for it to take effect
[08:05] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, is it a desktop or laptop ?
[08:05] <Kevin1a> It's a desktop computer.
[08:06] <sunil__> any one help me to fix this pleaseeeeeee
[08:06] <k1l_> sunil__: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:07] <sunil__> ooooh i did that
[08:07] <sunil__> k1l
[08:07] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, the make model on outside ... or else pop case and look at mobo
[08:07] <k1l_> sunil__: kan you put the whole output in a pastebin?
[08:07] <k1l_> !paste | sunil__
[08:08] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, i remebr there were hp/compaqs that shipped with a broken sound card in the past could be soemthing like that
[08:09] <Kevin1a> The case is just a random case we had sitting in the basement.  I'll open it up and take a look at the board itself.
[08:09] <sunil__> yea pasted in paste bin
[08:09] <antero> Kevin1a: mind giving pci=nomsi a try before that?
[08:09] <sunil__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171320/
[08:09] <antero> Kevin1a: I almost invariably have to add that when installing ubuntu on a laptop
[08:10] <LiDaR> sunil__, sudo apt-get -f install
[08:10] <sunil__> ok let me seee
[08:11] <Kevin1a> Antero: I would gladly give it a try.  Can you explain it more though?  I've never had a problem like this, so while I might know what's going on with a misbehaving network card, I have not idea what pci-nomsi means. :(
[08:12] <sunil__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171324/
[08:12] <sunil__> this is appearing
[08:12] <antero> Kevin1a: it's some message signaled interrupts bug somewhere =)
[08:13] <LiDaR> sunil__, try installing the package you were after now apt-get install whatever
[08:13] <sunil__> i did
[08:13] <Linpassion> hello
[08:13] <sunil__> same thing appearing
[08:13] <antero> Kevin1a: I've lost it on launchpad, but anyways workaround is to add pci=nomsi to /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT then run update-grub and reboot
[08:13] <LiDaR> sunil__, after you did the -f install ?
[08:14] <sunil__> yes sir
[08:14] <sunil__> after that
[08:14] <Linpassion> hter is some italian user on-line?
[08:14] <antero> Kevin1a: if that doesn't help then option can be removed
[08:14] <histo> sunil__: what package are you trying to install?
[08:14] <k1l_> Linpassion: better ask in #ubuntu-it
[08:14] <sunil__> fsl 4.1
[08:15] <Linpassion> sema server freenode?
[08:15] <antero> Kevin1a: breaks audio horribly on some systems without the option
[08:15] <k1l_> !it > Linpassion
[08:15] <LiDaR> sunil__, install the packages it wants
[08:15] <sunil__> ok
[08:15] <sunil__> how to install them ....any command?
[08:16] <LiDaR> sunil__, apt-get install libstdc++6 ect. ect.
[08:16] <sunil__> Thanks lidar ...let me try
[08:17] <Krofna> my ubuntu 12.10 crashes when I try to instal Qt SDK from official site. What should I do? :/
[08:17] <LiDaR> sunil__, after they are installed try that fsl package again
[08:17] <histo> sunil__: is there a reason you are trying to install fsl from source?
[08:18] <k1l_> !quantal| Krofna
[08:18] <sunil__> no
[08:18] <histo> sunil__: make sure you have the multiverse repo enabled and sudo apt-get install fsl
[08:18] <Bram_P> how can I turn noapic on when booting Ubuntu?
[08:18] <krofna> Anyway... crashed again now..
[08:19] <histo> Bram_P: edit the /etc/default/grub file and add whatever default commands you want. Save the file and sudo update-grub and reboot
[08:19] <k1l_> !quantal > Krofna
[08:20] <near> hello
[08:20] <sunil__> im installing fsd from software centre @ histo
[08:21] <Bram_P> histo I'm not able to load Ubuntu, while installing I could turn it on with F6, then it automatically rebooted, but it wont let me in unless I turn it on. So I don't think I'm able to edit the file
[08:21] <netbook> hi i have a problem with this hardware http://www.ebay.it/itm/140559990918?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649?
[08:21] <sunil__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171337/
[08:23] <netbook> i must restart my computer to start a hd 80 gb
[08:23] <Linpassion> ok
[08:26] <Kevin1a> Antera- rebooting now, added that line to grub file.  Hopefully it'll work :)  I'll be back on irc in a second.
[08:28] <LiDaR> sunil__, i get the same errors seems that package is broken
[08:28] <sunil__> ok
[08:29] <sunil__> THANK YOU SIR MAY BE I SHOULD DOWLLOAD FROM WEBSITE >>>>AFTER DOWNLOADING HOW TO INSTALL THAT SOFTWARE?
[08:30] <LiDaR> sunil__, http://www.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/fsl/linux.html follow these directions
[08:31] <sunil__> ok thaks sir
[08:31] <LiDaR> sunil__, dont install to /usr/local install to your ~/ i suggest though so it wont interfere with ubuntu package later
[08:31] <Bahaman> hi how do I update java on ubuntu. chrome says Java(TM) was blocked because it's out of date and it's only the browser plugin i think
[08:32] <sunil__> ok
[08:32] <mrjemp> looking for help with getting and installing new linux == pclinuxos
[08:32] <Kevin1a> No luck.  Tried playing an audio file, and still have it cutting out.  I'll try to find a BIOS update now.
[08:33] <fidel> mrjemp: this channel is focused on ubuntu itself - dont expect help for other distris
[08:33] <histo> Bram_P: you can boot a livecd or usb and mount your root paritition then chroot to that partition and edit the file and sudo update-grub.  Or you can try passing command options at the grub menu. Hold the shift key down to get a grub menu
[08:33] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, figure out the mobo and google it .. might find a solution that way
[08:33] <near_> wc
[08:33] <Kevin1a> That's the plan, thanks for the help.  If I boot up into windows, will it show me the mobo in the device manager?
[08:34] <histo> Bram_P: you should be able to press e at the grub menu to edit the current selected kernels boot options
[08:34] <LiDaR> Kevin1a, no
[08:36] <AdvoWork> I'm just writing a bash script,and will be sending the output to a log file(i want to put this in /var/log) is there anything I need to do to monitor the rotation?
[08:36] <antero> Kevin1a: just a slight concern since you typed 'added that line' - the line should have been there already and just needed modification
[08:36] <Kevin1a> yeah, I just changed it.  It was something about soft splash or so.
[08:37] <antero> Kevin1a: great then it should have indeed taken effect if you run update-grub too
[08:37] <antero> Kevin1a: run=ran
[08:38] <zeroxwolfx> Ok, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to get my old graphics card working
[08:38] <zeroxwolfx> I have an ATI mobility 9600
[08:38] <gordonjcp> zeroxwolfx: it should work at least in VESA mode
[08:38] <zeroxwolfx> For an IBM thinkpad t42
[08:38] <zeroxwolfx> I don't know what vesa mode is.
[08:38] <histo> !ati | zeroxwolfx
[08:38] <gordonjcp> zeroxwolfx: ATI has terrible Linux support
[08:39] <zeroxwolfx> I'm aware.
[08:39] <gordonjcp> they're very fond of just entirely dropping support for cards
[08:39] <Kevin1a> yes, I ran update-grub and restarted the system.  Still had the problem.  I've got the case open, looking at the Mobo right now.
[08:40] <zeroxwolfx> Also for f***s sake, how do I move the menu bar on the bottom of the screen?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise (after reboot its gone)?
[08:40] <histo> AdvoWork: add the log file to logrotates settings
[08:41] <zeroxwolfx> Ok
[08:41] <zeroxwolfx> That's a mobility radeon 9600 m10
[08:41] <histo> AdvoWork: use logrotate daemon to manage the rotation I should say
[08:42] <histo> AdvoWork: if you have a look in /etc/logrotate.d/  you should be able to pick up on what your file needs to contain in there.
[08:42] <AdvoWork> histo, ok cheers, thanks
[08:44] <kapz> histo, can someone pls help me with my Suspend/resume problem on my laptop. I am using ubuntu 12.04 gnome 64 bit. Laptop resumes from sleep automatically when plugged to power source
[08:44] <kapz> *hi
[08:45] <gordonjcp> kapz: is there something like "wake on power" in the BIOS?
[08:46] <kapz> gordonjcp, oh i haven't check BIOS yet. BUt there is no setting in the OS itself?
[08:46] <gordonjcp> kapz: not that I can see
[08:47] <kapz> well then I better check BIOS settings. Thanks :)
[08:52] <kapz> gordonjcp, I checked BIOS settings and could not find any power related option. Any more suggestions
[08:56] <Iamtotallyscrewe> I installed  libasound2-plugins-equal in ubuntu through terminal using apt-get and it removed everything and obviously now i cant get ubuntu to boot, i had to use ctrl alt prt_sc + r + s + e just to get a terminal to work can someone help me fix this.
[08:57] <Iamtotallyscrewe> also not a noob i know a decent amount of what I am doing my main problem is getting my repositories back so I can install the packages i need
[08:58] <ritz> Iamtotallyscrewe, it does not uninstall the system
[08:58] <ritz> are you able to connect to network ?
[08:59] <m1ch91> ciao
[08:59] <Iamtotallyscrewe> Well heres my biggest problem, I ran these commands in a tty while running xbmc in natty with my login set to auto and i thin it keeps trying to get into xbmc which was uninstalled
[08:59] <Iamtotallyscrewe> idk it uninstalled the packages i need for ipconfig
[09:00] <Iamtotallyscrewe> is there a utility I can use to connect to wireless if i need to?
[09:00] <Iamtotallyscrewe> that will run in terminal that is
[09:01] <histo> Iamtotallyscrewe: wicd or you can just use the wireless-tools packages
[09:01] <gordonjcp> Iamtotallyscrewe: yo umust have done something other than just install a package
[09:01] <gordonjcp> *you
[09:01] <histo> Iamtotallyscrewe: wicd has a curses client and is very easy to use.
[09:01] <Iamtotallyscrewe> all of my repositories were removed when i installed libasound2-plugin-equal
[09:02] <lkthomas> hey guys, my ubuntu PC keep auto turn off after a period of time, anyone have idea why ?
[09:02] <Iamtotallyscrewe> I have a flash drive that i can use to transport files from my laptop for whatever thsta worth
[09:02] <k1l> lkthomas: heat issue?
[09:02] <lkthomas> k1l: errr, not sure yet, does log suppose to capture that ?
[09:04] <Iamtotallyscrewe> also I'm not a noob as mentioned before if you look at bugtracker I'm not the only person who has seen the list of files libasound2-plugin-equal removes I am just the only user dumb enough to install it
[09:11] <nikola> when i put image on removable device via dd command, i get all data but names are messed just random character.any idea?
[09:12] <nikola> when i put image on removable device via dd command, i get all data but names are messed just random character.any idea?
[09:13] <k1l> lkthomas: yep, show in the logs in /var/log  so dmesg and syslog (keep in mind that the get rotated after reboot to .0 or .1 etc)
[09:15] <nikola> when i put image on removable device via dd command, i get all data but names are messed just random character.any idea?
[09:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:22] <axgb> I've got about 6  10 minute video files. Does anyone know how i make the audio in them all level - some its very loud, some its too quiet
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> axgb  better ask in #ubuntustudio, they're the sound and video guys
[09:29] <pharotek> what's the safest way to update roundcube to version 0.8 from 0.7 if i originally installed 0.7 from the repo, but said repo doesn't have the 0.8 version? I have a .gz with the updated files in it but i don't want to upset my package manager.
[09:30] <relation> hi, i have strange problem.. connection works once, then only after long time, see http://pastebin.com/f5gwrLXw, where can be the problem? (in os x it works as expected)
[09:30] <relation> it does not work in wget, ftp, or in python's urlopen().urlread and so on
[09:31] <thufir_>  http://askubuntu.com/a/155676/45156   says  mydestination = dur, dur.bounceme.net, localhost.bounceme.net, localhost      is wrong, it should just be localhost?   what does mydestination mean or do?  I want to spool mail to my FQDN to /var/spool/mail and not mail it on.
[09:36] <iamtotalyscrewed> well this sucks
[09:38] <CrypticS_> iamtotalyscrewed: ?
[09:39] <smartboyhw> How do I extend my partition to become bigger?
[09:39] <CrypticS_> use a gparted boot cd
[09:42] <iamtotalyscrewed> Ubuntu will never move forward as an operating system because it lacks the users willing to help that it desperately needs. Most of the time all I see in forums are half resolved threads and trolls. I installed a package available in the official ubuntu repositories and recived no solutions, basically what i got was make this work or we cant help you, no one has the knowledge to help me get the files i need on a broken s
[09:42] <iamtotalyscrewed> ystem and most users ignore the power of the bare bones tty terminal. smartboyhw - make a live cd and run gparted, p.s. I work for proofpoint as a tech agent for sutherland, i actually know what i am doing and people wont even make a suggestion, the most I got was "installing a package wont break your system" the only distro that gets any suppoer is free bsd and they are just a bunch of masturbating monkeys complaining a
[09:42] <iamtotalyscrewed> bout sucurity threats.
[09:42] <FloodBot1> iamtotalyscrewed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <iamtotalyscrewed> my bad that was a mistype but please at least agree i have a point beyond my frustration
[09:43] <CrypticS_> what's that ops command for trolls/?
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  mind your language -- did you have a question? this is not the place to rant
[09:44] <CrypticS_> know what i'm doing and no one has a solution to my  problem
[09:44]  * CrypticS_ shakes his head
[09:45] <iamtotalyscrewed> yes i did I installed a package that completely ruined natty, it is called libasound2-plugin-equal
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  hint: first upgrade to 12.04, it may solve a lot of your technical issues
[09:46] <iamtotalyscrewed> i have no networking because it uninstalled wireless-utils
[09:46] <iamtotalyscrewed> i have terminal and that is it
[09:47] <iamtotalyscrewed> I would like to upgrade but first i have some hurdles to overcome
[09:47] <gordonjcp> iamtotalyscrewed: tbh if you've broken it to that extent, nuke and pave
[09:47] <gordonjcp> iamtotalyscrewed: I won't waste more than 30 minutes recovering a damaged system
[09:48] <iamtotalyscrewed> is there anyway to get packages to install in terminal using a flash drive?
[09:48] <gordonjcp> iamtotalyscrewed: dpkg -i <package>
[09:48] <iamtotalyscrewed> The flash drive is recognized the problem i am facing is getting to terminal reuires me to use alt + prtsc + r+ s +e then going into temrinal with ctrl alt 1
[09:49] <iamtotalyscrewed> and thank you gordon i am trying that now
[09:52] <xapel> How do I know if I am running 12.04.1?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> xapel  lsb_release -sd
[09:52] <gordonjcp> xapel: cat /etc/issue
[09:53] <pharotek> hi
[09:53] <xapel> thanks
[09:54] <wolf15daniel> Hallo!!! My first in this IRC chanel
[09:55] <wolf15daniel> first time sorry
[09:56] <wolf15daniel> is there any code of conduct for messages here?
[09:57] <geirha> wolf15daniel: Yes, see /topic
[09:57] <wolf15daniel> thank you
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> !coc > wolf15daniel
[09:57] <Marzata> hu
[09:57] <iamtotalyscrewed> can someone tell me how to acess a flashdrive through terminal as in cd <dir>
[09:57] <Marzata> !hu
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  first mouont it, then cd to it
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  first mount it, then cd to it
[09:58] <iamtotalyscrewed> it is mounted
[09:58] <dr_willis> Mount it first iamtotalyscrewed
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  ok, now cd to the mount point
[09:58] <dr_willis> Then CD to the path its mounted to
[09:58] <iamtotalyscrewed> can you tell me how to pull up the mount point in terminal, it is all i have at the meoment
[09:59] <iamtotalyscrewed> moment*
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  type mount
[09:59] <dr_willis> !mount
[10:00] <iamtotalyscrewed> I know that how do i navigate to the directory of the mount point is it in media?
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  in a terminal, type mount
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  in a terminal, type mount, see where it is mounted, then cd to it
[10:10] <dr_willis> now would be a good time to spend a half hour reading some bash  basics guides
[10:10] <dr_willis> cd /media/whatever
[10:11] <gordonjcp> iamtotalyscrewed: why not just reinstall it?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> iamtotalyscrewed: save yourself some time
[10:12] <iamtotalyscrewed> well i'll just do a total reinstall, 'mount' does not display the location of my flash drive so i can install the package i want to install, for future reference do not install the officially provided ubuntu package libasound2-plugin-equal if you want a system wide equalizer, it will completely break your operating system in any debian based distro of linux. Even if you need a system wide equalizer to cross reference an
[10:12] <iamtotalyscrewed> audio file made with ubuntu studio. p.s. /media is empty, there is nothing left in my install to direct a mount point to media it is using legacy mount points.
[10:12] <gordonjcp> alternatively you may be able to boot off the install media and repair your system from that
[10:12] <gordonjcp> iamtotalyscrewed: what does "mount" say
[10:12] <gordonjcp> just "mount" on its own
[10:12] <gordonjcp> you may need to pastebin
[10:13] <iamtotalyscrewed> I tried using the recovery console but it doesnt support my default display mode of 1366x768 there are too many problems right now to repair without taking more time than it would to re-record off a fresh install, and pastebin isnt an option I cant retrieve text without nano
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  what was your initial question again, what are you tryin to achieve?
[10:15] <iamtotalyscrewed> i installed libasound2-plugin-equals and it uninstalled a laundry list of packages including my desktop manager and firefox as well as all of my xorg.conf packages
[10:15] <iamtotalyscrewed> it completely destroyed an installation that had been running since its release
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> !info libasound2-plugin-equals
[10:16] <iamtotalyscrewed> and i'm sorry i am running orneric
[10:16] <iamtotalyscrewed> 11.10
[10:16] <iamtotalyscrewed> so is there any way to get a sytem wide equalizer in ubuntu after natty?
[10:16] <iamtotalyscrewed> system*
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  i guess it's faster, easier and more efficient to upgrade to 12.04, first
[10:17] <VastGsm> having trouble trying to create an "Xorg.conf" file due to it does NOT exist as of yet. The only file that exists is a "Xorg.conf" ----> How can I use this same file but save in directory "/etc/x11" as "Xorg.conf" please....?? thanks
[10:17] <petoo> hey
[10:17] <petoo> I have a problem
[10:18] <petoo> I can't find xampp
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> petoo  try lampp
[10:18] <petoo> I mean its running and still I can't see its location
[10:18] <iamtotalyscrewed> I'm going to redownload oneric then update because the studio wont get amonitor that supports anything other than 1366x768 1024x768 and 800x600 and when i boot into a live cd it says invalid display mode
[10:18] <Vbitz> sadly when I run xset dpms force off it does not really turn the screen off , infact it goes to a black and white checkerboard
[10:18] <petoo> MonkeyDust: try what?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> iamtotalyscrewed  what's keeping you from downloading 12.04 ?
[10:19] <Vbitz> what would turn it off
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> !xampp  > petoo
[10:20] <petoo> ok
[10:20] <petoo> it was installed from the repository
[10:20] <petoo> that's the reason I can't find it s location
[10:20] <blackshirt> petoo, what you are try to install?
[10:20] <petoo> if it were some folder copied from the Internet
[10:21] <iamtotalyscrewed> i can dowload it the display mode for the installer isnt supported on the monitor i'm using
[10:21] <iamtotalyscrewed> it's outdated and i'm stuck with what i have
[10:21] <nibbob> U.S. Pres. Elections: In a free, intelligent and just world, Green Party's Jill Stein will become the President, Libertarian Party will be the majority in Congress and the U.S. Green Party will be the majority in Senate.
[10:21] <petoo> blackshirtI have to make some changes in configuration files
[10:21] <petoo> blackboxer: *
[10:21] <nibbob> But I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen
[10:21] <petoo> blackshirt*
[10:22] <nibbob> I'm not a U.S. national btw.
[10:22] <nibbob> Even I, a foreigner, knows about these candidates
[10:22] <petoo> !offtopic | nibbob
[10:22] <nibbob> Yet most Americans don't know about them
[10:22] <nibbob> right
[10:22] <dial-a-monkey> Anyone know the name of a php app for retrieving web pages like on all the open web proxies( examplewww.polysolve.com)? or the generic name for the code
[10:22] <blackshirt> petoo, soo
[10:22] <petoo> thanks :)
[10:23] <Dragonfly> Hey guys, need some assistance with troubleshooting the laptop fan, its a software fault but I have no idea about it.
[10:23] <luftikuss> What command-line command will display the file systems of the partitions of the hard disk used?
[10:23] <iamtotalyscrewed> I am prevented from installing 12.04 from a live cd because of a conflict in display modes if that helps
[10:23] <petoo> blackshirt: I don't know where the installation directory of xampp/lampp is, i have to make changes in config.inc.php of phpmyadmin
[10:24] <blackshirt> petoo, list with dpkg -L
[10:25] <blackshirt> Ppetoo, usually, configuration files resides on /etc directory, especially under/etc/phpmyadmin/
[10:25] <blackshirt> for phpmyadmin
[10:26] <blackshirt> but i'm not sure about xampp/lampp,...check documentation
[10:26] <iamtotalyscrewed> pls help I only have until monday to fix this or i am toast
[10:26] <dr_willis> you can always use the locate command if you know the file name
[10:27] <blackshirt> iamtotalyscrewed, whats your problem?
[10:28] <iamtotalyscrewed> can someone tell me how to change the display mode in the ubuntu 12.04 installer to 1024x768
[10:28] <dr_willis> and your video card is?
[10:28] <blackshirt> iamtotalyscrewed, why do you need them?
[10:29] <iamtotalyscrewed> my monitor will only display 1024x768 and 800x600 through vga input and i dont have anyother options
[10:30] <blackshirt> you can use tab to move next tab
[10:30] <misbah> Hello
[10:30] <blackshirt> hello misbah
[10:30] <misbah> is any one here to help me :(
[10:31] <misbah> status: 0xc0000225 The Boot selection failed because a required device is in accessible
[10:31] <blackshirt> jusk ask your question misbah
[10:31] <misbah> i am facing this problem i cant boot my system
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> misbah  wubi?
[10:31] <blackshirt> describe what are you going to do?
[10:32] <misbah> i am trying to boot my pc nut it showing message status: 0xc0000225 The Boot selection failed because a required device is in accessible not showing APIC
[10:33] <blackshirt> I think you should describe more detail
[10:33] <misbah> help me status: 0xc0000225 The Boot selection failed because a required device is in accessible not showing APIC
[10:34] <VastGsm> Hello Everyone, Good Morning :-) ----> (I have just done a clean FRESH install of "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS" and I get a blank screen if I run kernel 2.6.32-42, I believe this is because no Xorg.conf is created, If I run kernel 2.6.31.14 I dont get a blank screen and I can login ok as I can see the screen. I have tried Googleing a LOT and not found the solution as of yet. I am using an "Fujitsu-Siemens LifeBook s6120" laptop with an "Intel 82852/855GM intergrated grap
[10:34] <blackshirt> what your hardware, hd, dll?
[10:34] <twalbaum> satchmo? as in Peter's dog?
[10:34] <ozoze> hello, why am i not able to download the package aircrack-ng on my kubuntu 12.04
[10:34] <Satchmo> twalbaum: :) Who's Peter?
[10:35] <VastGsm> but I just get the blank screen. Any ideas or thoughts please. I am having trouble trying to create an "Xorg.conf" file due to it does NOT exist as of yet. The only file that exists is a "Xorg.conf.failsafe" ----> How can I use this same file but save in directory "/etc/x11" as "Xorg.conf" ----> I think it is a permissions issue, can anyone help please....?? thanks
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> VastGsm  the latest supported kernel is 3.2.0-29
[10:35] <misbah> my Notebook pc HP pavilion DV6 2005, is not working m trying to boot my pc i have to install windows 7 64bit but it showing the error status: 0xc0000225 The Boot selection failed because a required device is in accessible not showing APIC
[10:35] <twalbaum> on a tv show called White Collar, one of the main characters is named Peter, and he has as dog named Satchmo
[10:35] <VastGsm> yeah but thats on another distro dude
[10:35] <Satchmo> twalbaum: I'll check it out :)
[10:36] <misbah> any 1 help me?
[10:36] <misbah> status: 0xc0000225 The Boot selection failed because a required device is in accessible not showing APIC
[10:38] <lapion> misbah why are you asking this on a ubuntu (linux) channel ?
[10:39] <smartboyhw> Er, it might be my problem, I used !support in #ubuntuforums to redirect him here
[10:39] <lapion> ok smartboyhw
[10:40] <twalbaum> ok i have an issue. prepare for a long post
[10:40] <twalbaum> I have an issue with 12.04.1 regarding the boot menu. I've searched around and cant find anything like it. When I first booted, my boot menu had the usual linux generic, recovery mode, both memtest options, and my windows 7 entry, but it also had like five identical entries labeled "Ubuntu 12.04.1 (12.04) (on /dev/sda5)". I installed grub customizer to remove the duplicates (im using burg, by the way). I uncheck everything except win
[10:40] <twalbaum> dows 7 and one of the ubuntu 12.04.1 entries and save it. when i refresh it, it generates NEW ubuntu 12.04.1 entries and they are checked. so i started out with about five, and now i have 12 because i keep trying to get rid of them.
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> VastGsm  it's safer to keep it in the channel
[10:40] <twalbaum> also ive used ubuntu tweaks to see if i had some old kernel issues, and i dont.
[10:41] <viliny_^> Hey!
[10:42] <twalbaum> hai
[10:42] <viliny_^> Anyone able to recommend a DVB-C USB-dongle that would work in ubuntu?
[10:42] <viliny_^> Like, with a certain level of certainty?
[10:43] <d1rkp1tt> Hi All, Not sure if this is a postgres query or ubuntu, but I issues a command sudo passwd postgres... and now whenever I attempt to use sudo, it is requesting that I enter my postgres password, which it then does not accept
[10:43] <luftikuss> '/ # df -T; df: invalid option -- 'T'; BusyBox v1.17.2 (2012-02-03 17:38:03 CST) multi-call binary.' What would be the correct syntax?
[10:43] <godosulpullmanso> join/ #ubuntu-it
[10:44] <ikonia> luftikuss: busybox is not ubuntu
[10:44] <twalbaum> anyone have any ideas why my boot menu is breeding duplicates?
[10:47] <Guest52456> hola
[10:47] <godosulpullmanso> I wear the boxers black elasticizzati and stò enjoying
[10:48] <Guest52456> hola elst
[10:48] <fidel> Guest52456: this is an english channel
[10:48] <fidel> !es > Guest52456
[10:51] <VastGsm> ok
[10:51] <VastGsm> its just that when too many people speak its confuzing dude
[10:52] <VastGsm> I managed to find a few configs to use but when I try and save the file as xorg.conf I get a permissions issue
[10:53] <WeThePeople> hi
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> !who | VastGsm
[10:57] <b3rz3rk3r_> morning all, i need some advice on installing ubuntu to an ssd. I have windows on its own separate drive and will be giving Ubuntu the whole SSD. Will grub still properly overwrite the windows boot loader even though its on another drive?
[10:58] <WarOfTheNerd> b3rz3rk3r_, you can specify the drive it goes on
[10:59] <WarOfTheNerd> b3rz3rk3r_, to be honest though, I'd just change boot order in the BIOS and leave the Windows bootloader intact
[10:59] <dr_willis> b3rz3rk3r_: tell grub to install to the mbr of the ssd and set bios to boot from the ssd
[10:59] <dr_willis> thets mt setup with a 128gb ssd just for linux
[10:59] <WarOfTheNerd> because Windows 8 and future versions are going to be harder to work with in the future
[11:00] <WarOfTheNerd> dr_willis, SSD is more valuable on Linux with the way it jams up under heavy I/O load
[11:00] <twalbaum> can anyone tell me why my boot menu is generating duplicate entries every time i refresh it in grub customizer?
[11:00] <b3rz3rk3r_> WarOfTheNerd, dr_willis ok thanks guys, will do!
[11:01] <dr_willis> with ssd here 12.10 boots into unity in like 10 sec ;)
[11:01] <dr_willis> there a few ssd tweaks you may want to use also
[11:02] <b3rz3rk3r_> dr_willis, can you link me a guide you'd recommend?
[11:02] <dr_willis> scary when the os boots faster then the bios can do its post testing
[11:02] <WarOfTheNerd> I'm guessing noop is a good idea for an SSD
[11:02] <dr_willis> b3rz3rk3r_:  read up on it at webupd8 omgubuntu and askubuntu.com is all i did
[11:02] <WarOfTheNerd> or deadline
[11:03] <b3rz3rk3r_> dr_willis, ok thanks, i'll take a look
[11:03] <dr_willis> just a few extra options in fstab and moved  tmp to a ramdisk i recall
[11:05] <tony2012> quit
[11:09] <gancar> Hi, I'm just wondering, can I have a bootable USB stick to use Ubuntu OS?
[11:09] <smartboyhw> Yes.
[11:10] <gancar> How?
[11:10] <smartboyhw> gancar: Do you have a Ubuntu Installation CD?
[11:10] <gancar> smartboyhw: Well I downloaded the OS from the website, installed ISO to disc, and now am running from DVD disc
[11:11] <smartboyhw> Good. Tell me what stage of installation are you in:)
[11:11] <viliny_^> gancar: try http://pendrivelinux.com
[11:11] <gancar> smartboyhw: I'm not installing it to the Hard Drive, but am 'trying it'
[11:11] <dr_willis> Y
[11:12] <smartboyhw> Open the installer, or use viliny_^'s option
[11:12] <dr_willis> Or make a live USB on it
[11:12] <viliny_^> gancar: you get the added benefit of the usb -> ability to run in persistent mode and your "live" stick stores changes as if it were an installed os
[11:12] <smartboyhw> Yep
[11:13] <viliny_^> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[11:13] <viliny_^> either one is fine
[11:13] <dr_willis> A live setup is not quite as good as a f
[11:17] <Blackrhino> Whats grub ?
[11:19] <smartboyhw> Blackrhino: The bootloader
[11:20] <theGrgz> what's the best way to customize an Ubuntu ISO? (Have some packages pre-installed, change wallpaper, etc.)
[11:21] <dr_willis> !remaster
[11:22] <theGrgz> I've also heard of "Ubuntu Builder", how does that compare
[11:23] <dr_willis> a lot of the remastering tools broke with 12.04 . i dont even know what ones work anymore
[11:23] <dr_willis> used to be a website that did it.. but i think it closed down. or you have to pay now
[11:24] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:24] <UbuntuHelp_> Hey
[11:24] <UbuntuHelp_> Someone
[11:24] <UbuntuHelp_> Please help me
[11:24] <theGrgz> Btw, does it matter if I'm chrooting from a totally different distro?
[11:24] <UbuntuHelp_> I am having internet problems
[11:25] <UbuntuHelp_> Can someone help?
[11:25] <UbuntuHelp_> I posted about ti here
[11:25] <UbuntuHelp_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4766315#post4766315
[11:25] <theGrgz> UbuntuHelp_: just say your problem and maybe someone will reply
[11:25] <fidel> !enter > UbuntuHelp_
[11:26] <UbuntuHelp_> I added a PPA to my system and it gave me a bunch of updates
[11:26] <UbuntuHelp_> Now I have a bunch more entries in the additional drivers thing
[11:26] <UbuntuHelp_> And a few of them are not activated
[11:26] <UbuntuHelp_> Like the broadcom one
[11:26] <UbuntuHelp_> And I can only get online via ethernet
[11:29] <UbuntuHelp_> anyone?
[11:29] <theGrgz> I want to remaster an Ubuntu ISO, does it matter if I chroot from a non-Ubuntu host distro?
[11:31] <UbuntuHelp_> Hello?
[11:31] <theGrgz> UbuntuHelp_: honestly your description is too vague, and you provide little details. It seems like you should remove the ppa you added and purge the new packages you installed, then install them again.
[11:32] <VastGsm> wow
[11:33] <VastGsm> I thought this place was full of freindly helpfull linux gurus so far all I got is abuse for not being uber advanced in linux amazing place
[11:34] <UbuntuHelp_> Yeah
[11:34] <kbotnen> hi, anyone know what the file ~/.cache/software-center/software-center-agent.db contains?
[11:35] <kbotnen> my softwarecenter was unstable so I decided to remove that file, but is it important in any way?
[11:36] <susundberg> kbotnen: naa, dont think so since its under user directory -- the software center can re-generate that surely
[11:37] <theGrgz> specially that its under .cache/
[11:37] <kbotnen> mm.. my thought too.
[11:39] <theGrgz> For Ubuntu ISO rematering purposes, would it matter if I'm chrooting from a non *buntu host distro?
[11:43] <finpyy1> moi
[11:44] <MORO_> akseli
[11:45] <finpyy1> moro
[11:46] <finpyy1> terve
[11:47] <bazhang> finpyy1, ubuntu support question?
[11:48] <zedr> hello, I have a dependency problem when installing the package `libxslt1-dev`: libxslt1-dev : Depends: libxslt1.1 (= 1.1.26-8ubuntu1) but 1.1.26-8ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[11:48] <alek66> what the proper way to give a user rights ona  disk, I added a new disk, its mounted now I want the main user to have rights to read and write, chmod 777 is not the way, whats the correct way to do this? Add a flag in the fstab, or just chmod XXX
[11:48] <zedr> how would I approach the problem to fix it
[11:49] <Joku> moi
[11:49] <bazhang> Joku, stop that
[11:49] <Joku> pööööööööö
[11:49] <bazhang> zedr, what version of ubuntu, what version is that package from
[11:51] <zedr> bazhang: xubuntu 12.04, the package provides development files (sources) for libxslt
[11:51] <buji> is there a possiblity to hide the desktop icons of the mounted devices under ubuntu lucid lynx?
[11:51] <thufir_> why is this e-mail delayed?  https://gist.github.com/733420bf4c1c74c7d510 status=deferred because the connection was refused.
[11:51] <kandinski> any way of acquring h.264 support for firefox on 12.04?
[11:56] <cherfas> hi, i need some help who can help me?
[11:56] <bazhang> cherfas, whats the real question
[11:56] <wibbit33> kandinski: This has been an issue for the past 2 years. I doubt it.
[11:57] <cherfas> i have a problem playing any kind of media (including music) it lags for a second every minute or so
[11:57] <cherfas> i'v cheked the system monitor, and every time it happends the one of my cpu's peaks
[11:57] <cherfas> i have a quad core cpu
[11:57] <bazhang> cherfas, is this a wubi install? in a Virtual Machine? how much ram? is this flash video ie youtube songs or what, please give us the exact details
[11:58] <cherfas> it a refular install
[11:58] <wibbit33> cherfas: system specs?
[11:58] <cherfas> regular*
[11:58] <cherfas> no vm
[11:58] <bazhang> cherfas, all on ONE line please
[11:58] <cherfas> 8GB ram
[11:59] <cherfas> regular machine, no vm, 8GB ram, on flash video it happens too, and on music on my computer too
[11:59] <bazhang> cherfas, is the music stored on another partition/ drive?
[12:00] <cherfas> in /home partition
[12:00]  * WarOfTheNerd wants to put bets on it being PulseAudio >_>
[12:00] <wibbit33> hahhaah me too
[12:00] <cherfas> using banshee
[12:00] <wibbit33> I was going to say that or video drivers
[12:01] <wibbit33> but I just read audio
[12:01] <wibbit33> *music
[12:02] <cherfas> any ideas?
[12:03] <j`ey_w> how can I run the ubuntu lock screen from the command line?
[12:04] <cherfas> bazhang you are still here?
[12:04] <wibbit33> Try installing libflashsupport
[12:05] <wibbit33> See if that fixes it for flash at least
[12:05] <cherfas> apt-get can't find it
[12:06] <wibbit33> flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[12:06] <cherfas> i have the mint-flashplugin
[12:06] <cherfas> install it anyway?
[12:06] <wibbit33> yeah
[12:06] <wibbit33> if not just remove it
[12:06] <cherfas> yeah it removes the other one
[12:07] <k610> know about some command line tool to view logs ? multitail is kinda hard
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> k610  use the command 'less' to read logs
[12:08] <alek66> what the proper way to give a user rights on a  disk, I added a new disk, its mounted now I want users to have rights to read and write, is adding "users" to fstab the right way?
[12:08] <user> alek66: I don't need rights on a disk
[12:08] <k610> MonkeyDust, i like multitail coloring
[12:08] <cherfas> checking it now on youtube
[12:09] <alek66> user: funny ^^, know how to help?
[12:09] <user> s
[12:09] <kandinski> wibbit33: thanks
[12:10] <user> alek66: I'd create a group with all the relevant users in and give group permissions
[12:10] <wibbit33> kadinski: I think it's because Mozilla doesn't want to pay the licensing fees
[12:10] <wibbit33> kainski: I couldn't find any work around... try searching on forums
[12:10] <wibbit33> *kadinski
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> info multitail | k610 it's in the repos
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> !info multitail | k610 it's in the repos
[12:11] <alek66> user: thanks for the idea, I am looking for soemthing more simple, I know theres a way
[12:12] <cherfas> wibbit33 i think it worked for flash. a 4 minute vid on youtube worked just fine
[12:13] <cherfas> no lages
[12:13] <cherfas> any idea about the music that is stored on my computer?
[12:13] <wibbit33> try that now :P
[12:13] <cherfas> yeah just hit play
[12:14] <wibbit33> If it fixed it for flash maybe try playing the music in like VLC
[12:14] <wibbit33> I have no idea...
[12:14] <cherfas> if it works then it's kind of strange no?  :)
[12:14] <wibbit33> Yeah that would make no sense lol
[12:14] <wibbit33> I highly doubt banshee relies on flash lol
[12:14] <k610> then, how can i add multitail like color schemes to less
[12:15] <cherfas> yeah
[12:15] <Broklynite> Hello
[12:15] <Broklynite> I could use some help with Samba, if anyone is available.
[12:15] <wibbit33> If you want to be lazy perhaps try another media player like VLC and if that works
[12:15] <cherfas> maybe flash made the peaks on the cpu? and all the multi media was effected?
[12:16] <cherfas> i just love banshee..... :)
[12:16] <wibbit33> if they were running at the same time then maybe
[12:16] <wibbit33> if not I doubt banshee utlizes flash
[12:16] <cherfas> yeah but i don't think they were
[12:16] <wibbit33> Does multimedia still lag with banshee?
[12:17] <cherfas> not yet
[12:17] <wibbit33> it must utilize flash in some capacity then
[12:17] <cherfas> but sometimes it takes a few minutes
[12:17] <cherfas> yeah right now it lagged
[12:17] <wibbit33> hmm
[12:17] <wibbit33> I wonder if it's related to pulse audio
[12:17] <cherfas> maybe something with the codes?
[12:17] <wibbit33> that could be it too
[12:17] <k610> okay ccze seems to cut it
[12:17] <wibbit33> can you just try playing the same multimedia in vlc?
[12:18] <wibbit33> see if its codec related
[12:18] <cherfas> yeah lets see
[12:18] <JB___> hey everyone
[12:19] <timeimp> hi everyone. I was on the #vmware channel and have an issue with 12.04 and Bonjour/Avahi, specifically accessing Apache using hostname.local. Does anyone have any pointers?
[12:19] <cherfas> 7:39 song, if it lags then it will probably happens while this song is playing
[12:19] <Broklynite> I have samba shares set up on my ubuntu box. I have multiple win 7 computers accessing it. There is one computer which multiple users need to access their share. Is there a secure way to do this?
[12:19] <cherfas> happen*
[12:19] <Broklynite> THat is, maybe they are auto-logged out after a few minutes or something?
[12:19] <Richy-1> hallo
[12:20] <k610> MonkeyDust, ccze -A < file.log | less -R
[12:20] <JB___> I have two machines on the same local network using 12.04 and they always say there are no new updates (it's been about 2 weeks now). I'm not seeing any obvious error messages, does anyone know how I can find out why it's not updating?
[12:20] <Richy-1> was geht
[12:20] <cherfas> how can i check what codecs the media playing is using?
[12:21] <Slart> JB___: see if the software sources thingy is setup to actually check a repository
[12:21] <Slart> !de | Richy-1
[12:22] <cherfas> wibbit33 ok until now
[12:22] <wibbit33> so the same issue occurs in vlc?
[12:22] <JB___> slart - how can I do that?
[12:22] <cherfas> no it doesn;t
[12:22] <cherfas> untill now
[12:23] <cherfas> 4:19 through
[12:23] <b3rz3rk3r_> dr_willis, im manually setting up the partitions on that 120gb ssd we discussed earlier. I'm giving / 40gb and rest to /home. How do I make sure that partitions are aligned properly?
[12:23] <wibbit33> I guess it's related to pulseaudio I would ask people in here
[12:23] <cherfas> ok thanks
[12:23] <wibbit33> np sorry
[12:23] <cherfas> so it's not related?
[12:23] <Slart> JB___: start the Ubuntu Software Center and go to the Edit menu, then click Software Sources.. it should be on the bottom of that menu
[12:23] <wibbit33> maybe research your hardware for issues with ubuntu
[12:24] <wibbit33> see if people are experiencing similar issues
[12:24] <cherfas> but it can't be hardware because in vlc it's fine
[12:24] <wibbit33> oh it is fine?
[12:24] <cherfas> yeah i said it's fine in vlc
[12:24] <wibbit33> oh
[12:24] <cherfas> no problems here
[12:24] <wibbit33> forget banshee then :P
[12:24] <cherfas> so it's codecs right?
[12:24] <wibbit33> nope
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:24] <wibbit33> If it plays fine it vlc it's not the codecs
[12:24] <wibbit33> -in
[12:25] <skpl^> hi BluesKaj
[12:25] <cherfas> it uses the same codecs?
[12:25] <wibbit33> yes
[12:25] <thierry> english ?
[12:25] <cherfas> so maybe i'll reinstall banshee or something
[12:25] <wibbit33> yeah try that
[12:25] <cherfas> how can i install the latest version of it
[12:25] <cherfas> ?
[12:25] <wibbit33> I know little about banshee
[12:25] <JB___> slart - everything seems to be checked on there
[12:25] <cherfas> oho ok...
[12:25] <wibbit33> can't you use the Ubuntu Software Center?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> hi skpl^
[12:26] <cherfas> as far as i know it's not the latest version
[12:26] <Slart> JB___: hmm.. then I'm not sure what is wrong.. it's not an outdated version of ubuntu?
[12:26] <wibbit33> Oh
[12:26] <cherfas> maybe somethong with the version
[12:26] <cherfas> i'll try looking in thier website
[12:26] <JB___> slart - nope, brand new install of 12.04
[12:26] <sheinatte> vous parlez français ?
[12:26] <wibbit33> Stable release 	2.5.0  (August 22, 2012; 4 days ago[2]) [±]
[12:26] <Slart> JB___: if you can paste the output from "sudo apt-get update" on a pastebin it might be useful
[12:26] <cherfas> anywate wibbit33 thanks a lot!
[12:26] <wibbit33> http://banshee.fm/
[12:26] <Slart> !pastebin | JB___
[12:26] <wibbit33> np goodluck
[12:26] <Richy-1> kennt mich jemand?
[12:27] <cherfas> thankgs
[12:27] <JB___> slart - ok let me try
[12:27] <sheinatte> HELLO MYN NAME IS !
[12:27] <sheinatte> bonjour
[12:27] <Guest99498> I have a partition question...  I couldn't shrink a Vista partition when I initially set this box up, so ubuntu was only on a 7 gig partition.  I've now finally gotten vista shrunk by 100 gigs, and I'm trying to make the ext4 partition bigger.  I couldn't get the unallocated space next to the ext4, so I made the unallocated space ext4 and copied sda5 over to sda1  http://static.inky.ws/image/2681/image.jpg  Can I leave it this way and just go fix grub?
[12:27] <sheinatte> bonjour diamonds
[12:27] <Slart> !fr | sheinatte
[12:27] <Guest99498> sheinatte, I thought you were going to sauy Inigo Montoya...
[12:27] <JB___> slart - this is all I get: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:28] <sheinatte> bonjour
[12:28] <Slart> JB___: update, not upgrade
[12:28] <Slart> JB___: sudo apt-get update
[12:28] <sheinatte> bonjour
[12:29] <cherfas> how do i add a repositery from the terminal?
[12:29] <Slart> JB___: mine looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171680/
[12:29] <JB___> slart - oops sorry, one sec
[12:29] <cherfas> nevermind added
[12:29] <Guest99498> cherfas, there used to be a sources.lst in /etc/apt/
[12:29] <BluesKaj> !de | Richy-1
[12:30] <dr_willis> Use sources.list.d  these da
[12:30] <hammommah> greetings, i've just setup edubuntu 12.04 to run thin clients for all my kidlets. Only problem is I havent got any sound :( when I go to system settings and click sound option it freezes. Alsa mixer shows 3 devices and all are unmuted. Where do i look to trouble shoot??
[12:31] <JB___> slart - here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171687/
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> !sound | hammommah
[12:32] <cherfas> how can i get the ppa line from this url? https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[12:32] <cherfas> i'm trying to add it
[12:32] <Slart> JB___: hmm.. it looks ok to me.. you're sure it's not doing the updates silently in the background?
[12:33] <cherfas> oho sorry i just found it
[12:33] <JB___> slart - I'm not sure, it's never done that before? how can I check that?
[12:34] <Slart> JB___: hmm.. let me think.. there might be logs somewhere in /var/log/apt/
[12:35] <JB___> slart - k lemme check those
[12:35] <sheinatte> hello floodbot1
[12:36] <sheinatte> bonjour
[12:36] <sheinatte> bonjour tout le monde est ce qu'il y a des français ?
[12:36] <vectorx> hey all... is it cool to ask networking questions here?
[12:37] <sheinatte> yes
[12:37] <timeimp> hi everyone. I was on the #vmware channel and have an issue with 12.04 and Bonjour/Avahi, specifically accessing Apache using hostname.local. Does anyone have any pointers?
[12:37] <vectorx> thanks!
[12:37] <vectorx>  what does "tty_port_close_start: tty->count = 1 port count = 0" mean in the output of "dmesg | grep tty" ?
[12:37] <sheinatte> bonjour vectorx
[12:38] <vectorx> bonjour sheinatte
[12:38] <sheinatte> ça va vectorx ?
[12:38] <sheinatte> ça va ?
[12:39] <sheinatte> comment vas-tu vectorx ?
[12:40] <sheinatte> bonjour
[12:40] <zykotick9> !fr | sheinatte
[12:40] <cherfas> any recommended media player to replace banshee?
[12:40] <vectorx> i'm sorry.. i don't speak french
[12:41] <sheinatte> yes
[12:41] <KM0201> cherfas: i like rhythmbox personally.
[12:41] <sheinatte> bonjour miss vectorx
[12:41] <Andres_chile> hi somebody can help me?, i cant log in in xubuntu, when i put my password the screen get black 2 sec and back to log in screen :/
[12:41] <Andres_chile> i just can log in as guess
[12:41] <cherfas> thanks KM0201 i'll try it
[12:42] <KM0201> cherfas:  but it's strictly audio (i don't know what all banshee does as i don't use it)
[12:42] <sheinatte> beeker
[12:42] <vectorx> btw, anyone know what "tty_port_close_start: tty->count = 1 port count = 0" means in the output of "dmesg | grep tty"
[12:42] <JB___> slart - I'm checking term.log and not seeing anything that jumps out as an error or anything
[12:43] <sheinatte> creem a rolovo aimy doto five
[12:43] <vectorx> is it that the port was closed by some program?
[12:43] <sheinatte> a no
[12:43] <wibbit33> I'm on a Lenovo B570 Laptop which uses Broadcom Wifi Chipset. Everything was working fine... I don't even see the card anymore in Network Manager or iwconfig\ifconfig (it use to show up as eth1). b43-fwcutter_014-9_i386.deb is installed.
[12:43] <dr_willis> Andres_chile: login at the console check the ownership of the .Xauthority file chown it back to your user. or just rename it and see if that helps
[12:43] <sheinatte> me wuilliam and shopeeng
[12:43] <Slart> JB___: but are there log entries for the last week or so? is there a history.log?
[12:44] <sheinatte> me elisabeth father the wuilliam
[12:44] <JB___> slart - I also checked history.log and not seeing any errors... last update was 4 days ago
[12:44] <wibbit33> "the driver is activated but not currently in use"
[12:44] <wibbit33> This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[12:44] <JB___> slart - it just seems odd there haven't been any updates in 4 days, usually it's like a dozen a day or more
[12:44] <sheinatte> je dosi déco a+
[12:44] <Slart> JB___: well.. there might not have been any updates in the last 4 days
[12:45] <Slart> JB___: I don't know if there is a list somewhere of updates.. there should be
[12:45] <JB___> slart - I suppose so... I guess I'll just wait a week or so and if there still aren't any, I can check back lol :)
[12:45] <JB___> slart - yeah that's a good idea, I'll look into that
[12:45] <JB___> slart - thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it!
[12:45] <Slart> JB___: you're welcome
[12:47] <wibbit33> How do I see which wifi drivers are in use? I guess I need to blacklist one?
[12:47] <wibbit33> "the driver is activated but not currently in use"
[12:49] <munsking> hello, i work with FTP a lot, but i dont want to save the login data on every client computer i have, is there any way for me to save that stuff on my ubuntu server and somehow auto-connect to my ftp servers through that?
[12:50] <Bipul> filezilla munsking
[12:50] <munsking> or mount ftp/sftp directories in my users home folder?
[12:51] <munsking> Bipul: filezilla saves passwords in plaintext on every client, that's how we got hacked a couple of weeks ago
[12:51] <Cong-new> he wants like a keyring thing
[12:51] <godbod_> hello everyone, I went on the linux/Documentation/usb/usbmon.txt, I would like some help.
[12:52] <munsking> Cong-new: something like that yea, i dont have much experience in the whole security thingie, up until now i've always worked alone, never had any troubles, now i work in a bigger company and we need a solution for that kind of stuff :/
[12:52] <gordonjcp> munsking: first off, ditch FTP and use SFTP
[12:52] <zykotick9> munsking: lol, ftp and security...
[12:52] <gordonjcp> FTP is horrible and needs to die
[12:53] <gordonjcp> if you ever see a server with FTP on it, assume it's been 0wned
[12:54] <munsking> our customers have the servers, we're a webdev company
[12:54] <godbod_> anyone ?
[12:54] <tomtomtom> is there any speed limit on update manager ?
[12:54] <oana> hello
[12:55] <hammommah> i just noticed my gnome-seetings-daemon is unresponsive when trying to reboot. could be related to sound not working. Which log do i look in to find out why its crashing?
[12:55] <oana> can anyone help me?
[12:55] <epinky> !ask | oana
[12:55] <oana> i tried to install an windows aplication with wine and give 's me an error
[12:56] <oana> this error err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x32f8ec "?" wait timed out in thread 0009, blocked by 001b, retrying (60 sec)
[12:56] <Auzy> oana, You'll always get some errors..
[12:56] <nnkh> do nautilus dialogs messages get logged, and where do they go?
[12:56] <oana> so what should i do?
[12:56] <Auzy> oana, Best to google it, as other people may have an idea, or checking the compatibility database..
[12:56] <Guest99498> I have a partition question...  I couldn't shrink a Vista partition when I initially set this box up, so ubuntu was only on a 7 gig partition.  I've now finally gotten vista shrunk by 100 gigs, and I'm trying to make the ext4 partition bigger.  I couldn't get the unallocated space next to the ext4, so I made the unallocated space ext4 and copied sda5 over to sda1  http://static.inky.ws/image/2681/image.jpg  Can I leave it this way and just go fix grub?
[12:56] <fidel> hi - is it just me - or is selecting a font-type for a text-layer in gimp 2.8 somehow broken - as there is no more real dropdown-element?
[12:57] <oana> is there any upgrade for wine
[12:57] <Auzy> oana, Wine HQ compatibility DB may have some ideas..
[12:57] <Auzy> Anyway.. Sleep.. night all
[12:57] <konqui> Hi, magnet links do not seem to work with ktorrent. If I click a magnet link in Google Chrome or chromium or any browser, I get a prompt to let ktorrent handle it. When I way yes, ktorrent opens but no download starts
[12:57] <oana> for compatibility wine for windows xp
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> oana  sudu apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <malvadina> mm donde andoooo
[12:58] <oana> you told me to upgrade to 12.04?
[12:58] <gordonjcp> munsking: the real problem with FTP is that it requires both the server *and* the client to allow arbitrary users to write to anywhere in the filesystem
[12:58] <Auzy> oana, Upgrading always helps
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> oana  that's the latest and greatest release, yes
[12:58] <AdvoWork> i'm trying to connect to another server without a password. I've got a .ssh dir, so in there i've done: ssh-keygen -t rsa  and I can copy that to the remote server, but where in the remote server must i copy it to?
[12:59] <KM0201> AdvoWork: you wan tto ssh w/o a password?
[12:59] <godbod_> How can I solve this problem : modprobe usbmon
[12:59] <godbod_> FATAL: Module usbmon not found.
[12:59] <AdvoWork> KM0201, using key based auth, its a local server
[12:59] <gordonjcp> AdvoWork: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys but sshing without a password isn't necessarily a good idea
[12:59] <oana> ok ill try that but the windows program is verry old
[12:59] <AdvoWork> gordonjcp, its for an rsync script
[12:59] <oana> is from 2002 like that
[13:00] <KM0201> AdvoWork: yeah, i'm not sur e id do that, not evenn for a local server
[13:00] <dekroning> are ubuntu repository mirror's having troubles? or is there perhaps some status page where I can check my self ?
[13:00] <gordonjcp> AdvoWork: read up on how ssh keys and passwordless ssh works *properly*, and tread carefully
[13:00] <KM0201> dekroning: mine seem ok
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> oana  i run a win program that's from 1995 or so
[13:01] <nitay> Hello all, I'm trying to connect a usb-serial device to 12.04 but /dev/ttyUSB0 doesn't appear
[13:01] <godbod_> How can I insert the usbmon module into my kernel ?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> oana if 2002 is 'verry' old to you, then you must be verry young
[13:02] <nitay> I have a 10.04 machine on which the same adapter works
[13:03] <Guest99498> MonkeyDust, 1995...  Do you suppose that means a 96-ish dos game might work?  It's in a box with the original EarthSeige...
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest99498  it's DOOM :)
[13:04] <godbod_> I can't cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[13:04] <godbod_> can someone help ?
[13:04] <compdoc> godbod_, what happens?
[13:05] <godbod_> compdoc, the directory doesn't exist
[13:06] <toki_> please suggest me some good references to repaire my inode references . I can't mount my ntfs filesystem and don't even start my GUI .Please suggest me how to solve such probems .
[13:07] <compdoc> godbod_, you can always just look in the directories:   cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[13:07] <compdoc> oops
[13:07] <godbod_> huh ?
[13:07] <compdoc> its:  cat /proc/bus/pci/devices
[13:08] <compdoc> there is no usb directory
[13:08] <godbod_> compdoc, where is it ?
[13:09] <godbod_> I am following the linux/documentation about ubsmon, I need to capture raw usb packets
[13:09] <manisabri1> I'm trying to install  libwxgtk2.8-dev in 12.04 64 , but it gives me """ Depends: libwxgtk2.8-0 (=2.8.12.1-6ubuntu2) but 2.8.12.1-6ubuntu2.2 is to be installed """ and won't let me install it, any ideas?
[13:10] <jrib> manisabri1: have you installed anything outside the official repositories?  Have you enabled any 3rd party repositories?
[13:10] <manisabri1> jrib: I think I did... how come/
[13:10] <jrib> manisabri1: what did you install/enable?
[13:10] <wibbit2> I installed compat-wireless for aircrack and rebooted and now my adapted which is: This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with "Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware." says The driver is activated but not in use.
[13:10] <flan_suse> When testing Ubuntu 12.04.1 live CD, this bug still exists: I cannot unpin the LibreOffice launchers if I run the main LibreOffice start screen and then launch another instance of Writer (or Calc).
[13:10] <wibbit2> how do I roll back? :P
[13:10] <flan_suse> How can I forcefully unpin a stubborn LibreOffice launcher from the dock?
[13:11] <flan_suse> This is a major bug.
[13:11] <manisabri1> jrib: hmmm... can't remember let me check
[13:11] <jrib> manisabri1: actually, before doing anything else, do « sudo apt-get update » and make sure the message persists
[13:11] <toki_> please suggest me some good references to repaire my inode references . I can't mount my ntfs filesystem and don't even start my GUI .Please suggest me how to solve such probems .
[13:11] <jalexandru> ubuntu 12.04 has support for python 2.x or 3.x ?
[13:11] <jrib> jalexandru: both
[13:11] <manisabri1> jrib : ok I'm on it
[13:11] <jalexandru> jrib: thanks
[13:11] <xtian> hi everyone. i think i've found an issue with gnome-autogen.sh from gnome-common (3.5.5) in quantal. tried to build gtkhtml from today's git master. gnome-autogen.sh seemed to call configure before it even created that file. anything known about this issue?
[13:12] <jrib> !quantal | xtian
[13:13] <xtian> jrib: fair enough, thanks :)
[13:13] <kurtwp_> can someone provide me a link to 12.04 desktop net cdrom - I don't want to download the 12.04 burn a cdrom- I would perfer the smaller 12.04 cdrom and then install all the packages via the internat
[13:13] <zykotick9> !mini | kurtwp_
[13:13] <kurtwp_> thanks
[13:14] <manisabri1> jrib: the message persists after update , how can I check the packages I installed are not from standard repositories ? any straight forward way in Synaptic?
[13:14] <gry> manisabri1, 'manual' section at the left
[13:15] <jrib> manisabri1: start with apt-cache policy libwxgtk2.8-dev libwxgtk2.8-0
[13:15] <j`ey_w> what's the nanme of the ubutu screen-lock executable?
[13:15] <jalexandru> I want to start developing software had a look on the internet and got some info about python ... is this the recommended software? or is there another one that is more popular at this point?
[13:16] <flan_suse> No one else has bumped into issues with LibreOffice and unpinning the icon from the dock?
[13:16] <BlackWeb> Is anyone familiar with samba, to I know in order to allow a user to access your samba file, without having a local account on machine you'd have a entry in the /etc/samba/smbusers, But giving that user a password would you just do smbpasswd to the local account that you tied the username to, or is there a different way
[13:16] <jrib> jalexandru: depends on what you actually want to do.  Python is a great language though; #python for more help with it
[13:16] <gry> jalexandru, that's a language choice question; different languages have different applications. as this is an ubuntu support channel, i might suggest we discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:16] <MirtheN> depends what you want to develop, each language has its own strengths
[13:17] <MirtheN> me, i tried python, perl, on java now since its also cross platform
[13:17] <manisabri1> jrib: apt-cache gices me Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.8.12.1-6ubuntu2 Version table http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe amd64 Packages
[13:17] <plantroon> When I install ATI fglrx driver (clicking additional drivers in system settings, without fglrx updates!)  on ubuntu 12.04.1, what version does it install? 12.4 or 12.8? only answer if you have it please
[13:17] <jrib> manisabri1: pastebin the full output to: apt-cache policy libwxgtk2.8-dev libwxgtk2.8-0
[13:18] <gry> BlackWeb, are you sharing a file located at ubuntu machine, or accessing a windows share?
[13:19] <v0lksman> hello all!  anyone know how to tell aptitude to install package maintainer versions of config files automatically on upgrade?
[13:19] <manisabri1> jrib: http://pastebin.com/5GiMyG4x
[13:20] <jrib> manisabri1: pastebin the full output to: apt-cache policy libwxgtk2.8-0
[13:20] <BlackWeb> on a linux machine
[13:20] <larry> ?
[13:20] <larry> hi all
[13:21] <gry> hi larry
[13:21] <larryone> hmmm
[13:21] <manisabri1> jrib: http://pastebin.com/FpAGbz1Q
[13:22] <larry> xubuntu 12.04
[13:22] <larry> xfce
[13:23] <jrib> manisabri1: yes, your  libwxgtk2.8-0 is not the version from the repositories you have enabled
[13:24] <plantroon> Please tell me when I install ATI fglrx driver (clicking additional drivers in system settings, without fglrx updates!)  on ubuntu 12.04.1, what version does it install? 12.4 or 12.8? I dont know how to determine the version, because in ubuntu it uses different version number than on catalyst site.
[13:25] <manisabri1> jrib: hmmm. how did you find out from that results? any thing I can do about it?
[13:25] <usr13> plantroon: The package name doesn't show version number?
[13:26] <plantroon> it does show 12.6 for example ... but when I install fglrx drivers, it doesnt show any kind of 12.X
[13:26] <jrib> manisabri1: you can just remove libwxgtk2.8-0 (pay close attention that it won't take other things along with it that you want)
[13:28] <AdvoWork> I assume -mtime  + 7 is > 7 days?
[13:28] <manisabri1> jrib: I see. pgadmin3 is using it... I use it for managing porstgres 9
[13:29] <jrib> manisabri1: pgadmin3 is in the repositories.  So if you're using the version in the repositories, it should not require that version of libwxgtk2.8-0
[13:30] <VastGsm> I want to remain on the current distro 10.04 LTS but ONLY upgrade the kernel to 3.0.0-24 and NOT the distro ---------> is this the right command apt safe-upgrade ---> If NOT what is the correct way to upgrade the kernel to the latest but remain on the same distro?
[13:30] <kaspuksk> hi :)
[13:30] <migmax98> !list
[13:31] <jrib> VastGsm: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   will upgrade your packages (all of them; not just the kernel) and not change your release version
[13:31] <kaspuksk> witch coun try belong this channel ?
[13:31] <plantroon> so what is the version of catalyst fglrx drivers in ubuntu 12.04.1?? Without installing updates??
[13:31] <jrib> kaspuksk: all countries, but we use the english language only
[13:31] <cherfas> how can i check witch codecs my system is using?
[13:32] <cherfas> which*
[13:32] <kaspuksk> i understand :)
[13:32] <kaspuksk> are there some of lithuanina ?
[13:32] <kaspuksk> lithuanian*
[13:32] <VastGsm> Any Ubuntu gurus here, I got a query and need advice before I KILL my box
[13:32] <VastGsm> ???
[13:32] <jrib> !ask | VastGsm
[13:32] <smartboyhw> VastGsm: What?
[13:33] <plantroon> kaspuksk dont ask that on such a huge chat :D
[13:33] <zykotick9> cherfas: (not really what you asked but...) install ubuntu-restricted-extras should give you MOST codecs, use w32codecs (or w64codecs) from medibuntu if you require more
[13:33] <kaspuksk> im just searching :D
[13:33] <cherfas> zykotick9 i'm trying to reinstall all the codecs, because i;m having some problem with multimedia
[13:34] <plantroon> if anyone has ubuntu 12.04.1 and ATI / AMD card plz help me :D
[13:34] <zykotick9> !medibuntu | cherfas
[13:34] <kaspuksk> what is ubuntu , i dont understand :D
[13:34] <kaspuksk> ??
[13:34] <VastGsm> ok great
[13:34] <__Eggman> plantroon: what's the issue?
[13:34] <VastGsm> Ill type it again then
[13:34] <VastGsm> I want to remain on the current distro 10.04 LTS but ONLY upgrade the kernel to 3.0.0-24 and NOT the distro ---------> is this the right command apt safe-upgrade ---> If NOT what is the correct way to upgrade the kernel to the latest but remain on the same distro?
[13:34] <gry> kaspuksk, read www.ubuntu.com ; or what is your native language?
[13:34] <plantroon> no issue, I just wanna know what version are those ubuntu drivers ...
[13:34] <zykotick9> cherfas: FYI "reinstalling" things in gnu/linux almost NEVER solves anything
[13:35] <jrib> VastGsm: did you see what I told you?
[13:35] <kaspuksk> lithuanian
[13:35] <VastGsm> sorry no I missed that jrib sorry
[13:35] <jrib> VastGsm: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   will upgrade your packages (all of them; not just the kernel) and not change your release version
[13:35] <cherfas> ok so i'll tell you the problem maybe you'll have an idea
[13:35] <plantroon> if they are 12.4 version or if they got updated in the first service pack for ubuntu 12.04
[13:35] <VastGsm> nice one dude :)
[13:35] <kaspuksk> ok gl for everyone :)
[13:36] <__Eggman> I'm not sure, are you getting two drivers listed under 'Additional Drivers'?
[13:36] <cherfas> the media in my computer gets laged for a second every 5 couple of minutes or so
[13:36] <cherfas> every couple*
[13:36] <plantroon> @__Eggman yes I am
[13:37] <antivirtel> Hello!
[13:37] <antivirtel> I'm planning to encrypt a disc with LUKS. I'm wondering if the aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 in 128 bits will provide me enough security today, or may I upgrade to 256 bits or other cipher?
[13:37] <plantroon> @__ currently I dont have ubuntu but another distro and I know that ubuntu drivers were working very well so I need to know the version to get them ...
[13:37] <cherfas> in flash, and also in playing music stored on my compter. i have a quad core processor. also, i checked system monitor and one of my cpus peaks when this happens
[13:38] <__Eggman> @plantroon what card? In my experience one of those does not get along very well with ubuntu (will break your install)
[13:39] <VastGsm> Hey jrib that done nothing dude
[13:39] <plantroon> I have an old ati card ... Radeon HD 3600.. but I just wanna know (if you have the drivers) if the version is 12.4 or 12.8 ??
[13:39] <WarOfTheNerd> antivirtel, to be honest, there's no need for above 128-bit
[13:39] <VastGsm> 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 upgraded
[13:39] <WarOfTheNerd> antivirtel, by the point someone really interested in stealing data comes along, they'll just torture you for the passphrase/key
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> antivirtel  there's always the channel #security
[13:40] <__Eggman> plantroon: IIRC those are not supported anymore by ATI in linux, I'd suggest staying with the OSS drivers, YMMV though.
[13:40] <Guest99498> I couldn't shrink a Vista partition when I initially set this box up, so ubuntu was only on a 7 gig partition.  I've now finally gotten vista shrunk by 100 gigs, and I'm trying to make the ext4 partition bigger.  I couldn't get the unallocated space next to the ext4, so I made the unallocated space ext4 and copied sda5 over to sda1  http://static.inky.ws/image/2681/image.jpg  Can I leave it this way and just go fix grub?
[13:41] <antivirtel> WarOfTheNerd thank you... It will protect the illegal data from the police, to be honest :D
[13:41] <cherfas> every few minutes the mutlimedia in my computer gets lagged, in flash and also in playing music stored on my computer. i have linuxmint. quad core processor. also, i  checked processor monitor and noticed that one of my cpus peaks when this happens. any ideas?
[13:41] <antivirtel> MonkeyDust, thank you, I've joined
[13:41] <VastGsm> Hey jrib that never done much dude, it said 0 on all buddy
[13:41] <VastGsm> 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 upgraded
[13:42] <jrib> VastGsm: that means your packages are up to date for the repositories you have.  What kernel do you have installed and what did you expect?
[13:43] <antivirtel> WarOfTheNerd  "they'll just torture you for the passphrase/key" :) maybe, but I'll probably suffer from injury than sit in a prison for a half life, or just pay a fortune for that data :)
[13:43] <plantroon> __Eggman: I said fglrx drivers from ubuntu 12.04.1 worked very well on my PC, I could play Portal 2, World of Warcraft and many good games on ubuntu with those drivers, but the problem I have is that I moved to another distro and dont remember the drivers version so I need to know what drivers does ubuntu install when clicking that additional drivers icon in system settings ... thats the only info I need :D
[13:43] <VastGsm> thats what I want to do dude, just upgrade the kernel but keep the distro version the same and not change it
[13:43] <jrib> VastGsm: ok, can you answer my question?
[13:43] <VastGsm> 10.04 LTS kernel 2.6.33-42
[13:43] <Fodi69> hello, is there a utility to run a program many times in a terminal until I press Ctrl + C? so for example, it runs ten times in every second without attention
[13:43] <VastGsm> 10.04 LTS kernel 2.6.32-42
[13:43] <VastGsm> my bad typo
[13:43] <VastGsm> 10.04 LTS kernel 2.6.32-42
[13:43] <SolarAquarion> how do i make sure i get the latest packages for ubuntu?
[13:44] <jrib> VastGsm: that's the latest kernel in 10.04's repositories
[13:44] <VastGsm> really?
[13:44] <Fodi69> SolarAquarion: you run the update manager?
[13:44] <jrib> VastGsm: yes
[13:45] <armin_> hi guys
[13:45] <armin_> im new
[13:45] <armin_> so how dis works?
[13:45] <cherfas> every few minutes the mutlimedia in my computer gets lagged, in flash and also in playing music stored on my computer. i have linuxmint. quad core processor. also, i  checked processor monitor and noticed that one of my cpus peaks when this happens. any ideas?
[13:45] <armin_> is it like global chat?
[13:45] <SinTaX98> I'm trying to build a kernel from source on 12.04 server, but when I run make xconfig I get "qconf: cannot connect to X server", does that mean I need a GUI installed?
[13:45] <Fodi69> armin_: you ask something, somebody answers it
[13:45] <manisabri1> jrib: thanks mate,you solved my problem
[13:46] <WinMaster> guys, disk util says my daemon is being inhibited! I'm worried about it.
[13:46] <jrib> SinTaX98: or don't use qconf...
[13:46] <__Eggman> plantroon: AFAIK it's 12.4, the drivers available under the 'Additional Drivers' dialogue tend to lag behind ATI official by a few revisions, I'm not currently on my ubuntu box, cant be of much help, have you tried checking the version number in the repos? I'm not sure this will match up with the ATI version numbers
[13:46] <jrib> !kernel > SinTaX98
[13:46] <SolarAquarion> Fodi69 there's package in the packages.ubuntu.com rep which is not being installed to my system
[13:47] <Fodi69> SolarAquarion: what is the package name? not installed at all, or not the latest version installed?
[13:47] <VastGsm> if i do an apt-cache search linux-image it says 3.0.0-24 is the latest
[13:47] <jrib> VastGsm: pastebin
[13:48] <VastGsm> ok ill paste bin it dude
[13:48] <VastGsm> 2secs
[13:48] <SolarAquarion> @Fodi69 not the latest version
[13:48] <nnkh> !kernel >nnkh
[13:48] <Guest99498> Where will the computer be looking for grub, now that I think about it, if I copied a whole linux partition over to a new partition?  I don't think I put grub on the MBR
[13:48] <SolarAquarion> example would be the gnome packages
[13:48] <SinTaX98> jrib, I am trying to build a kernel with more driver support for a tftp boot /fog environment.  I have been looking for a way to do so, but the only way I can seem to find is qconf.  Is there another (possibly better) way?
[13:49] <Fodi69> SolarAquarion: and what version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:49] <SolarAquarion> quantal
[13:49] <jrib> SinTaX98: see ubottu's message to you
[13:49] <nnkh> !kernel >SinTaX98
[13:49] <usr13> !grub | Guest99498
[13:49] <plantroon> __Eggman I cant get the version from this ... :( http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/fglrx
[13:50] <usr13> Guest99498: You have write grub to MBR in order to boot.
[13:50] <Fodi69> SolarAquarion: each distribution has its own versions of packages, so if you want to have the latest packages, you probably want to update your whole distribution (quantal is not the latest versuin)
[13:50] <SolarAquarion> Fodi69 what's the latest version?
[13:50] <usr13> Guest99498: That first link is probably the one you need, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[13:50] <Fodi69> SolarAquarion: sry it is the latest, i was wrong.
[13:51] <jrib> VastGsm: never mind, I see now.  You can install one of the linux-image-server-lts-backport-* packages and the 3.0 kernel will be pulled in.  For example: linux-image-server-lts-backport-oneiric
[13:51] <Guest99498> usr13, I didn't lose it necessarily, but I copied sda5 over to a newly create sda1 (http://static.inky.ws/image/2681/image.jpg)  which /etc/grub is the computer using?
[13:52] <asogani> ping asogani
[13:53] <Fodi69> SolarAquarion: the beta versions can have this kind of update failures, but you should ask someone else, too
[13:53] <Lockal> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[13:53] <Lockal>   indicator-status-provider-mc5 indicator-status-provider-pidgin libdbusmenu-qt2:i386 libindicator-messages-status-provider1 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-declarative:i386 libqt4-network:i386 libqt4-script:i386 libqt4-sql:i386
[13:53] <Lockal>   libqt4-sql-mysql:i386 libqt4-xml:i386 libqt4-xmlpatterns:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 skype skype-bin:i386 sni-qt:i386
[13:53] <Lockal> apt-get in 12.10 removes Skype like a boss! :)
[13:53] <FloodBot1> Lockal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise (ati grafix card), after reboot it goes away
[13:54] <Bipul> i  want to ask something related to philosphy
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> Bipul  try in #philosophy
[13:55] <usr13> Guest12684: So this is a dual boot system?  (Or it was?)
[13:55] <usr13> Guest12684: I'm not sure I understand your situation.
[13:57] <usr13> Guest12684: What used to be on sda1?  (before you made what ever changes you just made...)
[13:59] <gnome_selpa> hello
[14:00] <migmax98> 2
[14:04] <detu> quit
[14:04] <savio> hello
[14:05] <Elvano> Hey lot, might there be a way to change my GUI of Ubuntu 12.04 to be more like the on like 8.04
[14:05] <bazhang> !notunity | Elvano
[14:05] <Yancho> guys anyone experienceing problems with avi on a samsung streamed from minidlna ? can seem to find a fix on google for it :S
[14:07] <corentin> hi
[14:07] <Elvano> Does going back to Gnome also put less stress on my graphic memory?
[14:08] <corentin> how can i tell NetworkManager to forget about my wireless card for a while ?
[14:08] <bazhang> Elvano, you mean gnome-panel ?
[14:08] <marcappuccino> @elvano try xfce
[14:09] <WarOfTheNerd> Elvano, in my experience yes
[14:09] <WarOfTheNerd> Elvano, and you can run Unity 2D within gnome-panel for epic win there too
[14:09] <Elvano> I am running unity 2D
[14:09] <marcappuccino> @corentin network icon > deselect enable wireless > deselect enable networking maybe
[14:09] <craigbass1976> How can I tell if grub was put on the MBR?
[14:10] <WarOfTheNerd> Elvano, try GNOME Panel and then fire up Unity 2D inside of it if you still want Unity goodness :D
[14:10] <andrey___> hi
[14:10] <WarOfTheNerd> Elvano, it's less glitchy than straight up Unity 2D is for some reason
[14:10] <corentin> marcappuccino: ah thanks, eventhough i feel stupid now :P
[14:10] <thufir_> anyone familiar with both postfix and mailman?  I'm not sure where my problem resides.
[14:11] <marcappuccino> what is your problem
[14:11] <linucks> Hi, I'm having issues on 12.04 after I suspend my thinkpad x220t. For some reason it only picks up some wireless networks and I cannot reconnect to my home network. The wifi card is Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (rev 34). Wondering if anyone can please help me?
[14:11] <Elvano> I'll switch to my testaccount and give it a try
[14:11] <Elvano> What's that xfce mentioned before btw?
[14:11] <ganster> hi
[14:11] <gordonjcp> linucks: I get that sometimes
[14:12] <ganster> dreamweaver for ubuntu
[14:12] <gordonjcp> linucks: disabling then re-enabling wifi sorts it out
[14:12] <bazhang> Elvano, xfce4, xubuntu
[14:12] <marcappuccino> Its a lightweight desktop environment if u want to try it out sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:12] <ionwind> hello
[14:12] <ganster> anyone who knows dreamweaver for ubuntu
[14:12] <bazhang> aptana studio ganster
[14:12] <linucks> gordonjcp, hmmm I thought I tried that, but which way did you go about disabling and re-enabling the wireless?
[14:12] <gordonjcp> ganster: you don't get dreamweaver for linux
[14:12] <gordonjcp> ganster: it might work in wine
[14:12] <ganster> bazhang, ok let me try
[14:13] <marcappuccino> it is not native dreamweaver only through wine maybe
[14:13] <gordonjcp> linucks: just from the nm-applet
[14:13] <marcappuccino> dualboot windows?
[14:13] <gordonjcp> ganster: tbh dreamweaver is a nuisance anyway
[14:13] <Elvano> best thing is to write html in gedit @ gangster
[14:13] <gordonjcp> yup
[14:13] <corentin> marcappuccino: oh noes, it's still messing with my card even though i disabled wireless :(
[14:13] <marcappuccino> or geany
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise (ati grafix card), after reboot it goes away
[14:13] <ganster> gordonjcp, i don like  wine isn't  working fine with ubuntu
[14:13] <linucks> gordonjcp, Ah right, yes I am using the nm applet in gnome 3 to do that. Doesn't seem to help. Thanks though :/
[14:14] <marcappuccino> @corentin other than that im not sure then - www.askubuntu.com
[14:14] <craigbass1976> linucks, I've had trouble for some time waking up a laptop; when I do something like shut the lid at work (while I'm on the network there) and then cracking it open again at home.
[14:14] <gordonjcp> ganster: having done quite a bit of backend work on websites, I find the best way to deal with dreamweaver sites is to delete them completely and start from scratch ;-)
[14:14] <ganster> marcappuccino, , i don like  wine isn't  working fine with ubuntu
[14:14] <linucks> craigbass1976, hmm I see, have you had any issues like it only showing _some_ of the available networks? found any fixes?
[14:14] <corentin> marcappuccino: guess i'll just kill that stupid NM
[14:14] <craigbass1976> gordonjcp, heh
[14:15] <marcappuccino> it depends what you run - i pesonally dont like wine, but if you want extra compatibility try crossover for linux
[14:15] <linucks> the thing is, this works on fedora, but not ubuntu
[14:15] <linucks> :/
[14:15] <ganster> gordonjcp,  why from the scratch is more preferable than dreamweaver
[14:16] <craigbass1976> linucks, eventually I can get on.  I see your fedora issue though...  I tried 16 for a bit and didn't have this problem at all.
[14:16] <gordonjcp> ganster: because dreamweaver produces horrible unusable code
[14:16] <linucks> craigbass1976, cool, interesting to know
[14:16] <soman> why configuring wxWidets fails on Ubuntu 12.04 with gcc 4.7.1? Log => http://paste.kde.org/540686/13461633/
[14:16] <linucks> craigbass1976, maybe I am not being patient enough after disabling and re-enabling the card, how long does it usually take you to get on again?
[14:16] <jrib> soman: wxwidgets is in the repositories, why aren't you using the packages?
[14:17] <WarOfTheNerd> linucks, what is failing in Wine for you on Ubuntu?
[14:17] <ganster> gordonjcp, but dreamweaver comes from the scratch
[14:17] <linucks> WarOfTheNerd, sorry, I think you have me mixed up with something else - I am not using wine, or having problems with it.
[14:18] <ganster> gordonjcp, all i know dreamweaver its just   simplifies the work
[14:18] <craigbass1976> linucks, I don't shut the card off and on, I just keep trying to disconnect from the last network to get on the one I'm near at the moment.  There's lots of swearing and stuff, and i don't know how long it takes.  It's better in 12.04 than 10.04.
[14:18] <soman> jrib: I want to use 2.9.4
[14:18] <jrib> soman: ok
[14:18] <WarOfTheNerd> linucks, sorry my bad, misread :$
[14:18] <gordonjcp> ganster: not really
[14:18] <marcappuccino> btw anyone know how to draw up/down/left/right straight lines in gimp
[14:18] <WarOfTheNerd> ganster, what issues are you having with Wine?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> ganster: it gives you really horrible HTML code that doesn't render properly and cannot be maintained
[14:19] <craigbass1976> marcappuccino, shift maybe?
[14:19] <linucks> craigbass1976, okay thanks, I might try swearing a bit more =)
[14:19] <soman> I built gcc 4.7.1 last week and think that gcc may be corrupt despite of that I removed 4.6.3 first before installing 4.7.1
[14:19] <marcappuccino> @craigbass yeah i know shift and it works but i want to draw flat lines like in photoshop
[14:19] <craigbass1976> linucks, sometimes if you start walking over to the gun cabinet...
[14:19] <thufir_> marcappuccino:  the problem I have with postfix and mailman is that e-mails to the list get rejected. I can subscribe to the list, however.
[14:19] <spiky59> hi
[14:19] <spiky59> I need help xD
[14:20] <linucks> craigbass1976, haha.
[14:20] <jasonz> Can anyone help I am unable to buy software from the ubuntu software centre I get "url failed to load ssl handshake failed when I try to process my payment
[14:20] <marcappuccino> @thufir yeah i dont know about that problem file a bug on launchpad
[14:20] <spiky59> Is it possible to make a boot iso on a usb drive ?
[14:20] <ganster> gordonjcp, if  i make the  with dreamweaver then after i make throughly  looking at the code  for the site  i made the will it also be horrible
[14:21] <Adie> spiky59, a usb boot disk of ubuntu?
[14:21] <spiky59> yep
[14:21] <Adie> from windows?
[14:21] <spiky59> thing is, i already have ubuntu
[14:21] <Adie> ok
[14:21] <spiky59> but my windows failed, and i tried to reinstall it
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise (ati grafix card), after reboot it goes away
[14:21] <user123132> marcappuccino: use office ,draw line and paste in gimp
[14:21] <spiky59> now i cant boot anymore, and windows wont recognize any drive
[14:21] <WarOfTheNerd> spiky59, there's a USB image tool:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:21] <spiky59> ty War
[14:22] <spiky59> ty WarOfTheNerd
[14:22] <marcappuccino> @user thats really unpretty though thanks anyways
[14:22] <drPoo> I added a line to my crontab "@reboot /path/to/script" so as to start a script at reboot. But it is not working. Any ideas?
[14:22] <|Anthony|> what is eol for 10.04?
[14:22] <jrib> drPoo: define "not working"
[14:22] <thufir_> marcappuccino: oh :(  ok.
[14:22] <jrib> !10.04 | |Anthony|
[14:23] <drPoo> jrib, the script is not getting executed
[14:23] <drPoo> at reboot
[14:23] <jrib> drPoo: how are you sure of that?
[14:23] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: What exactly are you trying to do?
[14:23] <drPoo> jrib, because the program its supposed to start doesnt
[14:23] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: draw straight horizontal/vertical lines in gimp?
[14:23] <thufir_> is anyone else familiar with both postfix and mailman?  I'm trying to todetermine whether, when an e-mail is rejected, that's the fault of postfix or mailman.  How do you tell?
[14:23] <marcappuccino> im trying to draw a straight line but not diagonal so only up/down/left/right
[14:23] <|Anthony|> mmm another 8 months
[14:23] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: drop a marker, snap to it
[14:23] <drPoo> jrib, and it does work when i run the script manually
[14:23] <ganster> bazhang, i cant find aptana
[14:23] <craigbass1976> /dev/sda1 is a new ext4 partition I created (I was Guest99498 a bit ago, using xchat from a livecd) and it's contents are what I copied (via gparted) over from /dev/sda5.  If I boot, I'm seeing grub as it was before the repartitioning.  How do I fix this?
[14:23] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: sorry, guide, not marker
[14:23] <jrib> drPoo: how are you sure it doesn't start but simply doesn't do what you want to do?
[14:24] <marcappuccino> @gordon i dont understand sorry
[14:24] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: look at the drawing window, do you see the ruler at the top and the size?
[14:24] <marcappuccino> hang on
[14:24] <drPoo> jrib, because the script does work when i run it manually
[14:24] <jrib> drPoo: cron's environment isn't the same as when you run it manually.  Pastebin your script
[14:25] <craigbass1976> marcappuccino, with a brush or pencil, click where you want one end of the line to be.  Now hit the Shift key and click where you want the other end of the line to be.
[14:25] <marcappuccino> where is the drawing window i am running 2.8
[14:25] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: click on the ruler and drag into the drawing area
[14:25] <gordonjcp> marcappuccino: you'll drag a guide onto the image
[14:25] <marcappuccino> where is the drawing area
[14:26] <craigbass1976> gordonjcp, oops, I didn't see yuo already answering him
[14:26] <spiky59> I hope this will work =)
[14:26] <jasonz> Can anyone help I am unable to buy software from the ubuntu software centre I get "url failed to load ssl handshake failed when I try to process my payment
[14:26] <gordonjcp> craigbass1976: no worries ;-)
[14:26] <gordonjcp> craigbass1976: you were quicker
[14:26] <ganster> bazhang,
[14:27] <WarOfTheNerd> jasonz, refresh a few times
[14:27] <ganster> image   bin site
[14:27] <user123132> gordonjcp: you mean snap to guid ?
[14:27] <WarOfTheNerd> jasonz, it occasionally happens with me when adding Humble Bundle games :D
[14:27] <drPoo> jrib, the script is fine. It had been working for a while. I guess I will not use crontab anymore. I will put it in /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d
[14:28] <jrib> drPoo: you should pastebin the script...
[14:29] <drPoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171889/
[14:29] <drPoo> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1171889/
[14:29] <jrib> drPoo: a general issue with crontab is that, for example, your PATH is not the same; you could also try changing @reboot to some current time so you can better test without rebooting.  Lastly, you could put something like /usr/bin/touch /tmp/script_runs to verify the script runs
[14:29] <Gargoyle> Anyone know if there is an issue gettings keys from keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[14:29] <mads-> If I have sudo access can I then change myself to another user without knowing the users password?
[14:30] <jrib> drPoo: hmm, maybe bio2rdf isn't mounted at the time crontab runs your script?  See if it works now with a specific time in crontab
[14:30] <drPoo> jrib, that might be it... the mounting of the /media/bio2rdf directory
[14:31] <drPoo> jrib, but wouldnt it be better just not to use crontab?
[14:33] <gordonjcp> user123132: yes
[14:34] <jrib> drPoo: probably
[14:35] <savio> hello
[14:35] <user123132> gordonjcp: ok, thanks
[14:37] <savio> at first when i using older firefox  when i enter keyword in address bar it direectly search to google
[14:37] <savio> but that's not happening now
[14:40] <Lappdog> Is there a Linux program that will make a 1:1 copy of a DVD to .iso? I use AnyDVD on Windows...
[14:40] <WarOfTheNerd> Lappdog, would you believe me if I told you you can dump it like any other disk device using dd?
[14:40] <r0tha> lol it's called dd
[14:40] <bazhang> !info ogmrip | Lappdog
[14:41] <WarOfTheNerd> Lappdog, dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/yourusername/nameofiso.iso
[14:41] <WarOfTheNerd> :D
[14:41] <WarOfTheNerd> if you want to rip it to a video file there's handbrake
[14:41] <WarOfTheNerd> !info handbrake | Lappdog
[14:42] <WarOfTheNerd> ugh damn you ubottu!
[14:42] <Lappdog> I want to make a true 1:1 copy of DVD to .iso. No compression or changing...
[14:42] <bazhang> !handbrake | WarOfTheNerd Lappdog
[14:42] <bazhang> Lappdog, ogmrip as I said
[14:42] <WarOfTheNerd> Lappdog, dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/yourusername/nameofiso.iso
[14:43] <Lappdog> Excellent! Thank you all!
[14:43] <WarOfTheNerd> (that command works without any changing, and requires no package installs, literally)
[14:43] <nitram147> have somebody do Stripe CTF 2.0 ? i stoped on level 5 an need help :)
[14:46] <nitram147> have somebody do Stripe CTF 2.0 ? i stoped on level 5 an need help :)
[14:46] <nitram147> have somebody do Stripe CTF 2.0 ? i stoped on level 5 an need help :)
[14:46] <nitram147> have somebody do Stripe CTF 2.0 ? i stoped on level 5 an need help :)
[14:46] <FloodBot1> nitram147: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <nitram147> ok
[14:47] <dr_willis> DD may not work on all these newer copy protected DVDs
[14:47] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek is starting in a bit more than 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:47] <nitram147> ok
[14:47] <nitram147> have somebody do Stripe CTF 2.0 ? i stoped on level 5 an need help :)
[14:47] <nitram147> have somebody do Stripe CTF 2.0 ? i stoped on level 5 an need help :)
[14:47] <FloodBot1> nitram147: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <bazhang> nitram147, stop that
[14:50] <user82> hi. which is the "last" log when shutting down. my computer gets stuck 80% when shutting down at the logo with the dots and i want to find the reason
[14:51] <mneptok> user82: look in syslog and messages
[14:51] <user82> thanks mneptok . directly after rebooting i guess they have a timestamp?
[14:53] <mneptok> user82: yes
[14:53] <user123132> user82: maybe you can use bootchart
[14:54] <AdvoWork> every now and again I have a problem where my applications lose their top bars, ie the toolbar(all applications - terminal, gedit, pidgin etc) any idea how to get these back?
[14:54] <sorin7486> anybody happen to know what version of ubuntu is a machine that gives #42-Ubuntu in uname ?
[14:54] <sorin7486> is there a list somewhere ?
[14:54] <JackAndTheBean> AdvoWork, what precedes the loss of toolbar?
[14:54] <user82> user123132 sounds like a cool tool. i will try it(but for another purpose)
[14:55] <iunruh> I'm using lightdm with Kerberos/LDAP.. if a user's password is expired, it won't let them change their password.. it simply says "enter it again:" after the password and won't accept anything
[14:55] <krababbel> When shutting down, or rebooting, sometimes I got a 'requesting services stop: fail'. Where can I see what exactly went wrong? /var/log/messages?
[14:56] <bazhang> sorin7486, 11.04
[14:56] <AdvoWork> JackAndTheBean, I don't know how it occured really, but its really annoying lol. I noticed it earlier with pidgin, but now it's happened to gedit too
[14:56] <sorin7486> thanks bazhang
[14:56] <JackAndTheBean> AdvoWork, everytime U start Ubuntu? or just this one time
[14:57] <AdvoWork> JackAndTheBean, i've had this client machine running for about 4 days now I think, then it suddenly goes(only now and again) othertimes it works for weeks, othertimes 1 day :S
[14:58] <JackAndTheBean> AdvoWork, the I would type in the command line: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart Maybe it could help
[15:00] <vn> Know of a fix to get VRTSralus (BackupExec client) to work after an update from lucid to precise? it crashes...
[15:00] <CarlFK> I am on oneiric, need some goofy fonts.  any suggestions on easy way of reviewing/installing ?
[15:00] <jrib> !fonts | CarlFK
[15:00] <CarlFK> a few months ago I found Purisa (looks kinda like pencil scribbles) but I don't remember where/how
[15:00] <|Anthony|> that is a great font
[15:00] <|Anthony|> i have it
[15:00] <|Anthony|> ;-)
[15:01] <|Anthony|> lol... it's actually what i use for xchat
[15:01] <CarlFK> |Anthony|: lol
[15:01] <CarlFK> jrib: thank.. I see some font links
[15:01] <iunruh> anyone familiar with lightdm + Kerberos/LDAP?
[15:01] <AdvoWork> JackAndTheBean, will that log me out or anything
[15:02] <bazhang> CarlFK, packages.ubuntu.com has it
[15:02] <JackAndTheBean> AdvoWork, it should restart X
[15:02] <AdvoWork> will that close any of my programs though? I don't mind, as long as I know
[15:03] <JackAndTheBean> AdvoWork, Yes it restarts all graphical interface, so it logically must close all opened apps without toolbars
[15:03] <bazhang> JackAndTheBean, its lightdm not gdm you realize
[15:03] <iunruh> on precise, it's $ sudo service lightdm restart
[15:04] <iunruh> on anything before, it's $ sudo service gdm restart
[15:04] <bazhang> !upstart | JackAndTheBean
[15:04] <JackAndTheBean> bazhang, ok then: more heads more ideas ;-)
[15:04] <CarlFK> bazhang: has what?
[15:04] <bazhang> CarlFK, purisa .ttf font
[15:06] <CarlFK> bazhang: ah.  I already have that one.  no clue how
[15:07] <bazhang> CarlFK, it comes with phatch-cli , for one
[15:07] <user123132> AdvoWork: do you install any applet or desktop application ?
[15:08] <flash_> Hi guys. I have the strangest error. Every time I reboot my pc, an additional panel is created at both the top and the bottom of the gnome desktop. There are also multiple copies of the default icons on the first panel. Every time I reboot the pc, another copy of everything is created. Any ideas how to fix this?
[15:08] <bazhang> flash_, screenshot please
[15:08] <gordonjcp> flash_: no, but can you get a screenshot, for comedy value?
[15:08] <flash_> haha
[15:08] <flash_> Ok hang on
[15:09] <cloudgeek> help
[15:09] <cloudgeek> !help
[15:09] <cloudgeek> !help .command
[15:09] <bazhang> cloudgeek, with what
[15:09] <cloudgeek> bazhang: i want know command of irc bot ubottu
[15:10] <bazhang> cloudgeek, /msg ubottu factoids
[15:10] <CarlFK> bazhang: phatch-cli (love phatch...)  does it have a bunch of fonts bundeled with it?
[15:10] <bazhang> CarlFK, yep
[15:11] <cloudgeek> bazhang: like how if want dictiory lookup with it
[15:11] <CarlFK> bazhang: sweet.  that's the kind of easy I was looking for
[15:11] <bazhang> cloudgeek, the bot does not have that plugin installed
[15:11] <flash_> gordonjcp, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/36519035.png/
[15:12] <motaka2> hello the vendor sold me 11.10 and the latest release is 12.04, Am I missing too much ?
[15:12] <crizis^> better unity
[15:12] <Aradian> hey im just wondering why my hostname is displaying with ~ ? root@ns:~#
[15:12] <bazhang> motaka2, it's free
[15:12] <crizis^> pre-installed os?
[15:13] <flash_> bazhang, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/36519035.png/
[15:13] <motaka2> bazhang: I know but since the internet speed in this country is low i prefer to buy it
[15:13] <crizis^> motaka2, you can upgrade with pretty much single click in update-manager anyway if you feel like it
[15:13] <crizis^> oh then
[15:13] <crizis^> motaka2, well, if it fits your need, it still has like 1 year of support left
[15:14] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.04   motaka2
[15:14] <cloudgeek> bazhang: like some other irc bots support several other , so they put all information on a website about command , ,and what is use of those commands like .in for reminder , so from where i can get information about ubottu
[15:14] <bazhang> cloudgeek, at the /msg ubottu factoids link
[15:14] <motaka2> crizis upgrading means downloading and reinstalling everything from zero ? that mean about let's say 500 MB of download ? or just 50 MB?
[15:15] <crizis^> motaka2, updating with package manager you don't need to reinstall anything. but it's 500-1gb download, yes
[15:15] <motaka2> crizis how long ubuntu 12 will be supported?
[15:16] <andrea> hi there, any free IPSEC client for 12.04 ?
[15:16] <crizis^> motaka2, then again 12.04 is LTS release and it's supported for 5 years
[15:16] <motaka2> crizis wow I have to find it's DVD then
[15:16] <crizis^> motaka2, you can upgrade your current installation
[15:16] <krofna> join #c++
[15:17] <krofna> fail
[15:17] <motaka2> crizis but you told me its about a giga byte of download
[15:17] <crizis^> motaka2, if you're on unity, just hit top-right corner power button > updates
[15:17] <crizis^> motaka2, well, more or less
[15:17] <crizis^> motaka2, update manager will tell you how much must be downloaded
[15:18] <motaka2> crizis thats too much for me as I told you internet speed is low and costs too much pergig here
[15:18] <MirtheN> if you download the bootable cd for 12.04 its just a tad over 700megs
[15:18] <crizis^> :/
[15:18] <cloudgeek> grep cloudgeek
[15:18] <dr_willis> 12.10 will be over 700meg when its released in a few months.
[15:18] <MirtheN> speed means little, per gig prices yeah thats an issue
[15:19] <MirtheN> i used to download full CDs on 56k dialup all the time, just takes a little patience ;)
[15:19] <crizis^> i'm almost feeling bad for looking for 110MBit > 200Mbit upgrade since it's only 4 eur more.. ;)
[15:19] <motaka2> They can provide us with fiber internet, but they are bastards
[15:19] <bazhang> !ot
[15:19] <bazhang> motaka2, watch the language please
[15:19] <motaka2> bazhang: ok sorry
[15:20] <dr_willis> pc magazines and online shops can be a cheap way to get the latest cd/dvds also
[15:20] <crizis^> what happened to shipit? is it up anymore?
[15:20] <motaka2> ok 11.04 is made the sceen black
[15:20] <TheLordOfTime> crizis^:  that's been gone for a while, that's the free disk service, right?
[15:20] <motaka2> should I eject the DVD ?
[15:20] <crizis^> right
[15:20] <bazhang> crizis^, shipit has been gone for a while now
[15:21] <MirtheN> motaka2, can you purchase things from http://shop.canonical.com/ ? can get the current releases there if you can
[15:25] <brontosaurusrex> a good/easy way to embed parts of exif to image in gimp?
[15:25] <AndrewX192> When I connect a monitor to my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop, I can no longer open minimized windows -- what can be done to solve this?
[15:25] <AndrewX192> I can't alt+tab to them or anything, they just get stuck until they are quit
[15:26] <mnewton> When I do sudo service mysql restart I get: stop: Unknown instance: start: Job failed to start
[15:26] <mnewton> I think it may have broken after I updated - not sure
[15:26] <jpds> mnewton: Well, start failed, so check the MySQL logs.
[15:27] <mnewton> jpds, how do i do that
[15:27] <Alpha-Omega> question: how do the releases in Firefox work? I know they happen every 6 months, but why do I have a version of Firefox that came out after the release of the version of Ubuntu that I have?
[15:28] <jpds> mnewton: tail -f /var/log/syslog ?
[15:28] <LiDaR> Alpha-Omega, as the pacjage maintainer updates .. you get new versions alot of the time as part of a security update
[15:28] <Elvano> Hey lot, are the guys who helped me  earlier with my GUI still here?
[15:29] <DarkAceLaptop> my volume randomly resets to 0 and mutes, and I cannot set it back unless I reboot? any idea why, and/or any ideas on how to fix?
[15:29] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop, does syslog / dmesg show an error sounds like pun intended module unloading
[15:29] <mnewton> jpds, cat /var/log/mysql.err yields nothing
[15:29] <DarkAceLaptop> when I turn up the volume and un-mute, I hear nothing. if I plug something in when the volume is up and un-muted it resets to muted and 0 again
[15:30] <killer_> can anyone suggest me a good document manager?
[15:30] <Alpha-Omega> LiDaR: I knew about the security updates, but I didn't know that you get updates of new versions as well, thought it was only security updates
[15:30] <Elvano> Just wanted to tell you I've tried both the Xubuntu and Gnome interfaces and eventually went for the gnome one. Seems to work nicely up till now. Thank you
[15:30] <mrboris> is there a way via command line on 12.04 to map my power button to the F5 key?
[15:31] <mrboris> just short press, not hold.
[15:31] <Alpha-Omega> LiDaR: so why exactly is there 6 month release cycles if new software is automatically added in the repos and not frozen after release?
[15:31] <LiDaR> Alpha-Omega, the updates are new versions if you have version 12.5.1 .. something needs fixed they release 12.5.2 ect. ect.
[15:32] <LiDaR> Alpha-Omega, non critical updates are tested to make sure they have less bugs before releasing to everyone
[15:32] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, am I looking for something in particular? "audio" "sound" and "speaker" is not found when running dmesg
[15:33] <Alpha-Omega> LiDaR: non critical being the kernel, GNU utils, shh, etc? so I'll be getting updates for Firefox this that all the time huh, I just installed Ubuntu yesterday?
[15:33] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop, could be cryptic post your dmesg output to pastebin
[15:34] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: no new versions are added to repos unless they address security vulnerabilities and cannot be backported.
[15:34] <LiDaR> Alpha-Omega, if there is a security issue .. the update comes faster if its just a new version .. there is no rush and they test more there is probably some explanation on ubuntu site somehwere what method used
[15:35] <Alpha-Omega> mneptok: ohh ok, so the new version of firefox, 14.0.1 most likely addresses a security vulnerability as well, not just new features
[15:35] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: correct. you will have that version of Firefox, with some point releases to address backported fixes.
[15:35] <Alpha-Omega> alright, makes sense now, just was amazed where firefox was such a new version
[15:36] <mneptok> Alpha-Omega: this is assuming you use only the default repositories.
[15:36] <n0l0v3> trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop but every time it boots up it freezes when running through the install. yet I can intall it on the same desktop in a VM
[15:36] <n0l0v3> any reason for this?
[15:36] <mnewton> when I try running mysql I get ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[15:37] <motaka2> ok I was installing the wrong CD so I just took that out and I am installing the new cd it asked me the language and then It just went on a black screen on the top of that screen I can see the blinking cursor, what is happening ? it is more than 10 mins that it is blinking
[15:37] <LiDaR> Alpha-Omega, if your just a desktop user and adventurous you could always use testing/unstable but things break frequently
[15:37] <Alpha-Omega> one thing that should be fixed though in the Ubuntu minimal install is having the default suggested place of Grub to be installed be the drive which the install was done and root was installed, not sda when sdb is what was used for the install, had an issue with that yesterday
[15:37] <jrib> Alpha-Omega: I think firefox is somewhat of a special case: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-will-now-track-Mozilla-updates-1386831.html
[15:37] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1171994/
[15:38] <SolarisB2y> mnewton: is the socket file present?
[15:39] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop, see the line PME# d1 d2 ect repeating .. thats your error message i bet
[15:39] <Alpha-Omega> jrib: yep, it seems that firefox will be updated with every new release, odd why they chose to do that, most likely because of the frequent updates and wide-spread usage of the browser I'm guessing
[15:39] <Lorra> n0l0v3, the two things are very different, in fact the virtual machine comprises some virtual hardware where your computer comprises physical (and possibly different) hardware. It might be that your installation media is corrupted, you could check it when you switch on your computer by choosing the appropriate option in the very first menu you get
[15:41] <motaka2> no help ?
[15:41] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop, the webcam is throwing errors also it seems its a external usb one ?
[15:42] <n0l0v3> thanks Lorra I will try that.....I have downloaded the install 3 different times and used 3 different methods all with the same result.....it runs Windows 7 just fine so I wouldn't think it was a hardware issue
[15:43] <mrboris> how do you triggler a refresh in chromium via a shell script?
[15:43] <mrboris> trigger*
[15:44] <Adie> if I like ubuntu from wubi, can I transfer my installation to a real partition, or do I have to install it?
[15:44] <Adie> install it again
[15:44] <n0l0v3> it scrolls through the text screen so fast when doing the install I can't really make sense of it then it just freezes. really strange
[15:46] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, really? I don't have a USB webcam
[15:46] <DarkAceLaptop> I have a webcam, but it's built-in
[15:46] <Lorra> n0l0v3, you may also check your media image before burning it, you need to download the md5 checksum along with the image and then using a program which computes md5 sums. On linux it commonly comes with your distro and having the checksum file and the image in the same directory you can run md5sum -c checksumsFile and see what it says. On Windows you need a program to compute md5 sums.
[15:47] <kdsmain> is there a JDK/JAVA support channel?
[15:48] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, any idea on how to fix the audio error?
[15:48] <Lorra> kdsmain, try /join #java
[15:49] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: can you unplug the webcam ?
[15:49] <kdsmain> Lorra doesn't seem to take me anywhere
[15:49] <DarkAceLaptop> not easily, I'd have to take apart the laptop to do that, LiDaR
[15:49] <n0l0v3> got cha!!!! I will start researching and checking it out. I am trying to turn this desktop into my media/file server for home....learning and teaching myself so running into some speedbumps..thanks for the advice
[15:49] <Lorra> kdsmain, it did for me, I tried it just know before suggesting it to you
[15:49] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: i see nevermind
[15:50] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: pastebin output from lspci
[15:50] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, actually, I never tried using it much, but I'm kinda thinking the webcam doesn't even work
[15:50] <Lorra> kdsmain, you type /join #java in the bar where you write messages and you hit the return button
[15:50] <Lubuntu-user> anyone experiance with asus eee701 netbook and peppermint?
[15:50] <kdsmain> Lorra yeah I did that and nothing happened
[15:50] <kdsmain> i also tried using the Room menu
[15:51] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: looking at the error messages im pretty sure it wont
[15:51] <Lorra> kdsmain, try /join ##java
[15:51] <wildcard-ger> hej all
[15:51] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1172022/
[15:51] <Lubuntu-user> hey
[15:53] <nownot> what is the best tool to burn blu ray image?
[15:54] <Canuckian> a lighter, or a blowtorch ^.^
[15:54] <w_> i installed ubuntu 12.10 repos to upgrade kernel, can i upgrade the other packages?
[15:54] <wildcard-ger> i have a notebook with 1tb hdd inside. i have to install windows on it and also want to install ubuntu to it. now i am wondering if its possible to install the os' with like 200gb each, and have the remaining 600gb like some kind of data volume to mount in windows and in ubuntu depending on what os i am running ?
[15:55] <nownot> jesus christ, I thought the kids were back at school ....
[15:55] <nownot> jesus christ, I thought the kids were back at school …
[15:55] <Lorra> w_, I don't know if it is a very smart idea, have you tried doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[15:55] <trond-> If I have packages that is installed with the xorg.edgers package, how do I remove these? I tried to do the remove option, but that caused a list of quite a lot of files.
[15:55] <nownot> ok, I'm looking for a piece of software that I can install on 12.04 that will allow me to create blu ray iso images ..
[15:55] <w_> i want to by i came here to see if there is a problem
[15:56] <HAMKoot> w_, join #ubuntu+1 for QQ 12.10 support.
[15:56] <w_> HAMKoot, ok
[15:57] <motaka2> while installing ubuntu 12.04 after selecting the language it went to a black screen with a blinking cusor , what should I do ?
[15:57] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop:  check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5131958&postcount=2
[15:58] <ganster> i like ubuntu but ubuntu doesn't likes me
[15:58] <Lorra> wildcard-ger, sure, you can install Windows first and Ubuntu after and when you install Ubuntu you edit your partitioning scheme to suit your needs. Do format the share partition with a filesystem readable by both OS's (e.g. NTFS)
[15:58] <motaka2> Can anyone help me ?
[15:58] <LiDaR> motaka2: use the the alt install / text mode
[15:58] <ganster> motaka2, leave it for a while
[15:59] <motaka2> LiDaR:  How can I do that?  ganster How much is the normal time , I think it is about 15 minutes
[15:59] <w_> i can't get my laptop to suspend when i close the lid, anyone knows how?
[16:00] <LiDaR> motaka2: its a different iso to download
[16:00] <motaka2> LiDaR: that pc is disconnected from internet
[16:00] <ganster> motaka2, if more than 15minutes its extraordinary that
[16:01] <motaka2> LiDaR: ganster  should I connect it to internet and try again ?
[16:01] <ganster> motaka2, are u upgrading or installing
[16:01] <Lorra> w_, have you checked the power saving settings?
[16:01] <LiDaR> motaka2: how did you get the installation media your using now ?
[16:01] <motaka2> I am installing
[16:01] <wildcard-ger> Lorra, okay :) can i also write on the ntfs partition with ubuntu without problems ? im not sure but i think there were problems with writing to ntfs due to microsoft licensing ?
[16:01] <Lorra> w_, you should be able to choose the behaviour of the laptop when you close the lid
[16:01] <w_> Lorra, yes
[16:01] <kdsmain> Lorra do I have to specify kdsmain on #java or something like that? Does the freenode thing have anything to do with my inability to join the #java channel?
[16:01] <motaka2> LiDaR: I bought from a store
[16:01] <LiDaR> wildcard-ger: ntfs works fine
[16:01] <ganster>  and have u select to install the third part motaka2
[16:02] <wildcard-ger> LiDaR, okay thanks :)
[16:02] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base is blank. normal?
[16:02] <motaka2> ganster: no I just put the dvd in the ROM and then in greyish screen What language? I hit enter on english and from then I jsut see a black screen
[16:03] <Lorra> kdsmain, I don't know, I am able to join #java and I am redirected to ##java
[16:03] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: you need to add that line into there
[16:03] <w_> Lorra, i did that, i did lots of things and nothing
[16:03] <kdsmain> Lorra: that's weird, it doesn't take me anywhere. thanks for the suggestion though
[16:03] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: options snd-hda-intel model=hp
[16:03] <w_> i tried to install a newer kernel and nothing
[16:03] <kdsmain> Lorra are you on freenode?
[16:03] <kdsmain> i guess is everyone here on freenode?
[16:03] <motaka2> ?
[16:04] <LiDaR> kdsmain: yes
[16:04] <motaka2> What should I do ?
[16:05] <ganster> motaka2, eject the dvd  and start again cuz ijust want u  to try using it as live first if okay then installation follows
[16:05] <motaka2> ganster: ok wait ...
[16:05] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: there are like 8 options for various hp models.. so it may be one of the other ones might have to guess if your not sure
[16:06] <w_> I have a samsung 530u3b and i'm  having troubles on suspending by closing the lid...
[16:06] <motaka2> ganster: dvd ROM doesnt open up should I resete ?
[16:06] <ganster> and are u sure with the dvd and  the image  made motaka2
[16:06] <w_> is there anyone with the same issue?
[16:06] <motaka2> ganster: I dont know it's  of a good company
[16:07] <ganster> okay
[16:07] <motaka2> ok I rseted
[16:07] <ganster> do it again motaka2
[16:07] <motaka2> and it is booting up
[16:07] <ganster> yep motaka2
[16:08] <LiDaR> w_: my acer suspends perfect! do you get an error message in dmesg ?
[16:08] <motaka2> ganster: this time just askin me the language and not the installetion type
[16:08] <Lorra> wildcard-ger, true, that might be a problem. You might install Windows on a larger parition, then install Ubuntu and install the gparted package and use it to reduce the Windows partition and create a brand new NTFS one
[16:08] <Lorra> kdsmain, yes, I'm on Freenode
[16:08] <motaka2> ganster: and automatically it went on english and again the black page
[16:08] <motaka2> ganster: What should I do /
[16:08] <ganster> motaka2, is that i
[16:09] <motaka2> ganster: What do u mean?
[16:09] <LiDaR> motaka2: power down and start again .. at installation type what options do you have ??
[16:09] <ganster> motaka2, am doubt with the image u have
[16:09] <kdsmain> Lorra: thanks
[16:09] <motaka2> LiDaR: I did that
[16:09] <motaka2> LiDaR: lemme do that once gain
[16:09] <ganster> motaka2, i mean the u burn on dvd
[16:09] <eklok> mhall
[16:10] <LiDaR> motaka2: just arrow up down it will pasue there
[16:10] <w_> LiDaR, nothing that im aware of
[16:10] <motaka2> LiDaR: it just goes directly on the selection language for installation
[16:11] <motaka2> ahan
[16:11] <motaka2> LiDaR: now it is asking
[16:11] <motaka2> tryubuntu without installing install ubuntu check dic for defects etc ...
[16:11] <ganster> motaka2, its unusual for ubuntu  image  to that step motaka2
[16:11] <kdsmain> does anyone know what the JDK_HOME variable is supposed to point to in general?
[16:11] <LiDaR> motaka2: if you "tryubuntu" does it run ?
[16:12] <motaka2> LiDaR: lemme see
[16:12] <ganster> motaka2,  and i want to  reach to step of try ubuntu
[16:12] <motaka2> LiDaR: now went on blinking blak page
[16:12] <LiDaR> motaka2: what cpu/ram are in this computer ?
[16:12] <DarkAceLaptop> LiDaR, should I login again now or restart?
[16:13] <ganster> LiDaR, i doubt with the image he created
[16:13] <craigbass1976> I got this whole partition mess and grub sorted out I thought... Vista won't boot now.  I'm not sure if the windows partition is messed up, or if grub is pointing at the other ntfs partition.
[16:13] <LiDaR> DarkAceLaptop: reboot
[16:13] <motaka2> LiDaR: RAM 1gig CPU 2.8 GHz
[16:13] <LiDaR> ganster: he bought it at a store he said
[16:14] <motaka2> So it is still blinking
[16:14] <motaka2> What should I do ?
[16:14] <LiDaR> motaka2: you will need to get a diffrent install disk .. try the alternative inatall iso
[16:14] <craigbass1976> How do I see the equivalent of the old menu.lst file to see where the grub menu choices are actually aimed at?
[16:14] <ganster> LiDaR, though he bought but it come from human and  may come with errors
[16:14] <motaka2> LiDaR: ok thx ganster thx
[16:15] <LiDaR> motaka2: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[16:15] <LiDaR> motaka2: its fee .. just have to download and create the disk/usb stick to install from
[16:15] <motaka2> LiDaR: I cant download it's slow and expensive here
[16:15] <pranjal710> hey, how do we change file permission in an NTFS mount. chmod dosent work. Can someone please help?
[16:16] <LiDaR> pranjal710: change the options that is mounted with .. ntfs "permissions" arent used in linux
[16:18] <LiDaR> motaka2: how expensive ? the .iso is 700megbayte
[16:18] <pranjal710> LiDaR, I tried it using the right click menu> properties. But the settings do not save after i click ok
[16:18] <vm> how do i list all disks installed?
[16:18] <vm> including unmounted disk
[16:18] <gyre007> I can't ssh to my server ....I'm guessing it's the iptables....but I dont know how to turn them off...i disabled ufw....sudo ufw disable but when I try to ssh from my mac to it im still getting the error: SSH CONNECT TO HOST BLAH-BLAH PERMISSION DENIED
[16:18] <LiDaR> motaka2: another option .. if youhave a diffrent desktop/computer pull the harddrive out install on other computer then swap the harddrive back
[16:18] <Owner> vm: fdisk -l
[16:18] <gyre007> anyone idea ?
[16:19] <ganster> motaka2, what was the problem
[16:19] <Vylan3> hi there, any free IPSEC client for 12.04 ?
[16:20] <vm> Owner: that just list partition table for a particular disk
[16:20] <Owner> vm: lists all of them for me i thought
[16:20] <fedvasu> guys i'm using netbeans 7.2 with jdk7 bundled
[16:20] <fedvasu> how can i make it java ee6 aware and how can i install tomcat and glassfish
[16:21] <Owner> vm: for me it lists all partitions on all disks
[16:21] <designbybeck> Has anyone joined an Adobe Connect meeting... it seems it has an install for Ubuntu.
[16:21] <designbybeck> I haven't tried it on Ubuntu yet, just trying to see if anyone has had experience with it
[16:21] <fedvasu> such that i can write java servlet apps
[16:21] <vm> Owner: fdisk -l for me returns empty
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> !find ipsec > Vylan3
[16:21] <ganster> LiDaR, i dont get u there    '' another option .. if youhave a diffrent desktop/computer pull the harddrive out install on other computer then swap the harddrive back''
[16:22] <Lorra> vm you need to give fdisk -l a device to list the partitions of
[16:22] <Lorra> like doing fdisk -l /dev/sda
[16:22] <Owner> fdisk -l shows all here
[16:22] <gordonjcp> ganster: if you have a machine you can't boot install media on, take its drive out, put the drive into a machine you *can* boot install media on, install there, then swap it back
[16:22] <LiDaR> ganster: ubuntu will install fine on diffrent/faster computer then when install is finished swap the harddrive back into slower computer
[16:23] <Lorra> Owner, vm fdisk -l doesn't show anything to me too
[16:23] <Owner> on slackware, debian, and ubuntu
[16:23] <LiDaR> ganster: ive done installs that way onto old p1 and p2 computers that couldnt boot from cd ect. works nice
[16:23] <Owner> and centos
[16:23] <Lorra> Owner, vm I guess you need to be root to see anything by running that program
[16:23] <Owner> yes, be root
[16:23] <LiDaR> pranjal710: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions read this
[16:24] <Lorra> Owner, vm that way it works
[16:24] <vm> Owner: ha,
[16:24] <Lorra> (by being root when running that command)
[16:24] <Owner> im always root...
[16:25] <ganster> gordonjcp, LiDaR u mean that if one drive havent OS and the other one have how can u shift the files on other works fine
[16:25] <gordonjcp> ganster: I don't understand that
[16:26] <LiDaR> ganster: your not moving files .. your moving the hardware/disk
[16:26] <bepebe> hello, i am having trouble loading a gui when first start. I have to CTRL+ALT+F1, log in, and run startx as root to get a GUI. if I try CTRL+ALT+F7 i have nothing, any ideas ?
[16:27] <ganster> LiDaR, ok
[16:27] <n0l0v3> just downloaded a new install of ubuntu desktop exactly how it say to burned the disk, and booted my desktop from it....now all I am getting is a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[16:27] <ganster> LiDaR, if move the harddisk where to
[16:27] <vm> Owner: then format and mount for a raw disk?
[16:27] <LiDaR> ganster: in between two diffrent computers
[16:28] <Owner> vm: what filesystem
[16:29] <vm> Owner: no filesystem yet, just a raw disk
[16:29] <ganster> LiDaR, well as move to other   so if i want boot  how can it be possible  to boot without OS files
[16:29] <Owner> vm: just partition it how you want (or not) and put some fielsystems on it
[16:30] <vm> Owner: how to partition it? i use windows not ubuntu
[16:31] <Owner> vm: use disk management in Computer management in administrator tools
[16:31] <LiDaR> ganster: 1 computer is good ... 1 computer is old junky one ... take harddrive from junky one install in good computer .. complete the ubuntu installation.. and then take harddrive with ubuntu and place back into old junky computer
[16:32] <ganster> LiDaR, was that problem facing motaka2
[16:33] <Adie> what programming language should I learn?
[16:34] <Kitty_> i need help .. i cant find the recycle bin on my edubuntu lol :/
[16:34] <LiDaR> ganster: yes he had older computer the ubuntu install disk would not run on
[16:34] <johan_1337> what software can i download to improve my music sound?
[16:35] <ganster> LiDaR, now i get u but suppose  if dont have image of the OS can it be possible to make installation  from the installed one
[16:35] <LiDaR> ganster: yes you can
[16:36] <LiDaR> Kitty_: i for see crying in your near future !
[16:36] <ganster> LiDaR, that wold be surprising to me today and am gonna learn from u
[16:36] <ganster> LiDaR, that would be surprising to me today and am gonna learn from u
[16:36] <LiDaR> ganster: read up on the usage of dd
[16:36] <craigbass1976> How do I look at the equivalent of the old menu.lst file to see where the grub menu choices are actually aimed at?
[16:36] <ganster> LiDaR, tell  me how
[16:37] <xref_> Hello. I have a question
[16:37] <ganster> LiDaR, let me tell u one thing when i want start installation  i just prepare the media using startup disk creator
[16:38] <LiDaR> !ask > xref_
[16:38] <LiDaR> ganster: www.backuphowto.info/linux-backup-hard-disk-clone-dd
[16:38] <ganster> LiDaR, tell me
[16:38] <designbybeck> has anyone Installed Ubuntu Linux on ETB all in one computers?
[16:38] <Kitty_> i m not joking, havent used the edubuntu and removed that recycle bean somehow so i cant find it now ..
[16:39] <designbybeck> From what I can tell they are some Off-Brand computer from a few years ago?
[16:40] <designbybeck> We just got donated 64 of them!?!!! I told them I'd take them but maybe I should see if Linux runs on them first!
[16:40] <xrefor> what is the difference of the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver vs the linux binary I can download from the nvidia website?
[16:40] <vm> Owner: which version ubuntu? i use 12.04 and found Disk Utilities
 Owner: how to partition it? i use windows not ubuntu
 Owner: which version ubuntu? i use 12.04 and found Disk Utilities
[16:46] <killown> who here uses raid setup https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html
[16:46] <killown> very bad suggestion
[16:47] <killown> if it really happens I will change of the distro
[16:49] <LiDaR> killown: that post is to start a conversation on the topic if you have something important on the subject ... post back to him about why it is bad
[16:50] <gordonjcp> killown: that's probably best discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:51] <lickalott> is anyone here good at scripting in csh?
[16:52] <lickalott> need some help scripting a training tool.  I have a text file (10,500 lines).  What I want to do is tail -5f file.1 and have that populate with a single line from the large file.  Almost realtime monitoring.
[16:52] <conradin> why script in csh?
[16:52] <lickalott> talk to me goose
[16:52] <mistere_> Hello
[16:52] <conradin> I had to 3 months ago do tsch, for a guy who like that.
[16:52] <lickalott> it's for a Solaris 8 machine (old school) and csh is easiest on there (for me)
[16:52] <conradin> no other reason.
[16:53] <lickalott> tcsh/csh....same same
[16:53] <conradin> anyhow what do you need?
[16:53] <lickalott> need some help scripting a training tool.  I have a text file (10,500 lines).  What I want to do is tail -5f file.1 and have that populate with a single line from the large file.  Almost realtime monitoring.
[16:53] <conradin> doesnt tail have a monitoring function in it?
[16:53] <lickalott> I bascially want to feed a single line from the large file to file.1 and tail that file
[16:53] <SolarisB2y> conradin: yes its -f
[16:54] <SolarisB2y> lickalott: in order to do that you will simply need to leave a note of your offset
[16:54] <SolarisB2y> its not difficult sounds like a good test - but not on ubuntu topic
[16:54] <lickalott> the monitor function i have.  it's feeding a single line that i'm having troubles with
[16:55] <lickalott> agree SolarisB2y, but you guys are much more helpful than the linux chan
[16:55] <lickalott> i will be testing it on an ubuntu machine
[16:56] <lickalott> what I started with was cat, but cat won't do a single line
[16:56] <root___> dsdsadsa
[16:58] <n0l0v3> just downloaded a new install of ubuntu desktop exactly how it say to burned the disk, and booted my desktop from it....now all I am getting is a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[16:58] <conradin> lickalott, Im tempted to say you could get the functionality you want from using vim
[16:59] <lickalott> hows that?
[16:59] <conradin> is this training program straight command line?
[16:59] <administrator_> 新人来啦。。。。。
[16:59] <conradin> vim allows you to do some decent amount of programing within it.
[17:00] <administrator_> 有人看到我么？
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[17:00] <conradin> perhaps someone has writen something similar. Im envisioning something like a starwars prolouge
[17:00] <lickalott> no, it's mainly gui based, but it was written in TCL/TK and I don't have a decompiler.  So my work around is to make my own realtime "gui" by redirecting a single line per second to another file and then tailing that file with the -f
[17:00] <conradin> do dont need a decompiler for tcl
[17:01] <conradin> its scriptig
[17:01] <gordonjcp> lickalott: what about "watch"?
[17:01] <conradin> where is the source
[17:01] <conradin> I speak expect.
[17:01] <lickalott> right.  the particular GUI i'm trying to mirror is .tk
[17:01]  * lickalott googles watch
[17:03] <lickalott> that may work..... gordonjcp
[17:03] <SolarisB2y> sounds hacky
[17:04] <lickalott> ?
[17:04] <SolarisB2y> the method you explained using for reading one line of a file
[17:05] <gasbakid> hello world
[17:05] <lickalott> the main thing I need is to be able to adjust the interval at which the redirection happens.  But if I can redirect the entire content of the large file to another (file.1) then "watch -n 1" file.1 that may work?
[17:05] <gasbakid> can someone help me with the libvirt message  : Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': No such file or directory
[17:05] <lickalott> i'm open to suggestion
[17:06] <Kircle> If an ether cable doesn't have what category it is printed on the cable how might I find out which one it is?
[17:07] <SolarisB2y> Kircle: possibly you can derive some ideas from the speed they auto-negotiate too if it works?
[17:08] <Kircle> What do you mean by 'auto-negotiate'?
[17:08] <SolarisB2y> unless you set speed/duplex on a hard code - it autonegotiates
[17:08] <gordonjcp> Kircle: it's probably CAT5E
[17:08] <SolarisB2y> most likely
[17:08] <yatta> if I close lid of laptop suspend is activated and lock screen too but it seems that suspend freezes my screen after moving mouse how to fix this?
[17:08] <SolarisB2y> but it could be CAT6
[17:08] <gordonjcp> Kircle: if it's about as thick as a pencil, CAT5E
[17:09] <SolarisB2y> its insulated
[17:09] <gordonjcp> Kircle: if it's about as thick as a Berol pen, CAT6
[17:09] <yatta> i know my enlighs is bad
[17:09] <Kircle> I'll check it now thanks
[17:09] <SolarisB2y> thats an interesting method gordonjcp ..
[17:09] <lickalott> watch no workie
[17:09] <gordonjcp> SolarisB2y: CAT6 has a thick plastic separator up the inside
[17:10] <lickalott> seems like that is more geared for processes
[17:10] <drag0nius> does wondershaper put limits on lan speeds too?
[17:10] <drag0nius> or just wan?
[17:10] <dtcrshr>  I need help in setting up ubuntu networking so locally (via iptables or something) all traffic to web servide (p 80) go redirected to my proxy server. Iv created the rules, changed the forwarding to 1 but didnt worked, is there a different way to use iptables under ubuntu?
[17:10] <SolarisB2y> biggest difference is the bandwidth and features etc for crosstalk etc but if thats a result of extra padding in the bundle - cool
[17:11] <Kircle> The ether cable I'm using now is cat5. But the newer cable seems slightly less thicker. Ow well.
[17:11] <Poindexter_> Hey folks, is there an apt-get for a paste-bin for a private server?
[17:12] <linuxfan> hello octane
[17:12] <linuxfan>  hinardev
[17:13] <linuxfan> need some help anyone?
[17:13] <linuxfan> hi wiz
[17:14] <linuxfan> hi ring1
[17:14] <gordonjcp> !ask | linuxfan
[17:14] <linuxfan> can someone help with my ubuntu q&a
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> linuxfan  let's hear it
[17:15] <TDJACR> So I have two new 3TB Seagate 6Gbps Hard Drives
[17:15] <linuxfan> i cant downnlowd audacity
[17:15] <TDJACR> I haven't used them yet, but SMART is saying there are thousands of read/seek errors
[17:15] <TDJACR> Is this a bug, or do I have two DOA drives?
[17:15] <yatta> system preferences --> power --> when the lid is closed = do nothing, do nothing
[17:15] <TDJACR> (Will post SMART)
[17:15] <linuxfan> my browser keeps blockig it
[17:15] <andrewx> Is anyone here familiar with 'xclip' utility? I have a problem.
[17:15] <gordonjcp> TDJACR: SMART says a lot of things
[17:16] <TDJACR> gordonjcp: It's showing seek/read errors in the thousands
[17:16] <gordonjcp> linuxfan: install it from the software centre
[17:16] <Poindexter_> TDJACR most hard drives have bad sectors on them from the factory.
[17:16] <yatta> linuxfan, ubuntu software center?
[17:16] <gordonjcp> TDJACR: yup
[17:16] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: This seems almost like a bug in the SMART protocol
[17:16] <serban> hi, i installed compiz settings manager, played around with some settings and now switching between workspaces(CTRL+ALT+arrows) doesnt work anymore. I removed CCSM
[17:16] <TDJACR> Or I have two DOA drives
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> linuxfan  sudo apt-get install audacitiy
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> linuxfan  sudo apt-get install audacity
[17:17] <gordonjcp> TDJACR: SMART is currently telling me that my drive is at 350°C and has roughly 2.5PB of bad sectors
[17:17] <linuxfan> I have old ubuntu 9.04
[17:17] <Poindexter_> TDJACR is the SMART a Windows software?
[17:17] <linuxfan> won't work
[17:17] <yatta> linuxfan, that's gonna be hard
[17:17] <TDJACR> gordonjcp: SMART seems to be working on all the other drives =/
[17:17] <yatta> I have 9.04 can't do a thing
[17:17] <gordonjcp> linuxfan: you pretty much need to update
[17:18] <yatta> except eclipse and firefox
[17:18] <auronandace> !9.04
[17:18] <Poindexter_> TDJACR, don't forget that any time you use a 3 TByte drive that the BIOS may not recognize it. Are you using a new Motherboard with SATA?
[17:18] <linuxfan> I am just trying edit a recording i made
[17:19] <andrewx> Is anyone here familiar with 'xclip' ?
[17:19] <antonio_> ciao ragazzi, il mio ubuntu 11.04 è molto lento... cosa posso fare???
[17:19] <Pici> !it | antonio_
[17:19] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: It should, I'm using a P55-USB from Gigabyte, with 6 SATA ports 3Gbps
[17:19] <linuxfan> another question? what is a  stable distro for old pc's
[17:19] <yatta> linuxfan, I know this may not be what you want but you'd be better with ubuntu 12.04
[17:19] <marcappuccino> !eol
[17:20] <marcappuccino> !upgrade
[17:20] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: gordonjcp: http://image.bayimg.com/nabgaaaek.jpg
[17:20] <Poindexter_> TDJACR lots of the older mother boards will not handle and nor were they disigned for the newest Storage Space such as the 3 Tbytes.
[17:20] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: It's from 2010 and has USB3. Is that old?
[17:21] <linuxfan> yatta I got ubuntu 1204 lts 2copies! one of xubuntu and one of linux mint
[17:21] <Poindexter_> TD check with your manufacturer.
[17:21] <marcappuccino> Is your drive SATA?
[17:21] <TDJACR> Yes SATA
[17:21] <linuxfan> none of them install rihgt
[17:21] <TheLordOfTime> linuxfan:  mint isnt a supported derivative
[17:21] <TheLordOfTime> !mint | linuxfan
[17:21] <TDJACR> And why would it have every other SMART attribute normal
[17:21] <Poindexter_> TD I installed a 1.5 Tbyte on my Dell computer and when I use XP Pro it crashes using the Windows <SEARCH>
[17:22] <marcappuccino> Maybe something in the BIOS settings, to make sure flash and update your bios and look around the settings
[17:22] <conradin> lickalot, you there?
[17:22] <conradin> how about writing a sed function
[17:22] <Poindexter_> TD is your system 32 bit or 64?
[17:22] <yatta> linuxfan, I can't install packages in 9.04
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> !9.04 | yatta
[17:22] <conradin> sed -n 2p /path/to/someFile.txt
[17:23] <linuxfan> I have many burned and one bought distro dvd's but wont work on my pc
[17:23] <ClientAlive> I have no sound on my desktop - what am I missing to make it work?
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> yatta:  its end of life, therefore you can't install stuff, since those repos are kind of... um... not useable
[17:23] <yatta> yees yes
[17:23] <yatta> I know
[17:23] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: 64
[17:23] <krababbel> TDJACR: are those internal drives, or usb3?
[17:23] <marcappuccino> @client go to settings > sounf and make sure the output is the correct one
[17:23] <Poindexter_> USB
[17:23] <marcappuccino> *sound
[17:23] <TDJACR> krababbel: I know for sure my USB3 enclosure doesn't work with them, so I'm using standard SATA internal
[17:24] <krababbel> TDJACR: why doesn't it work?
[17:24] <krababbel> mine does
[17:24] <marcappuccino> SATA I II or III
[17:24] <yatta> linuxfan, so you have problem with installing 12.04 on old machine?
[17:24] <marcappuccino> ?
[17:24] <TDJACR> krababbel: The enclosure itself only supports up to 2 TB
[17:24] <usr13> yatta: Your best bet is to back up your home and re-install a supported version, (I would suggest 10.04 or 12.04 (LTS).  (Especially since you dont seem to be hevily into upgrading.)
[17:24] <TDJACR> (I was an idiot for overlooking that)
[17:24] <conradin> #!/bin/bash
[17:24] <conradin> var=1
[17:24] <conradin> sometime=5
[17:24] <conradin> for i in {0..10500..1}
[17:24] <conradin> do
[17:24] <FloodBot1> conradin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <conradin> sed -n varp  vim.txt
[17:24] <krababbel> TDJACR: what, didn't know the enclosure cares about what you connect to it
[17:25] <linuxfan> yes yatta cuase I think I have no internet
[17:25] <yatta> usr13, I have dual boot 9.04 and 12.04 and I use 12.04
[17:25] <krababbel> I guess I am lucky having only 2TB
[17:25] <linuxfan> most new distros are web dependent
[17:25] <Poindexter_> TD are you trying to mount these drives on a Linux box or a Windows box?
[17:25] <usr13> yatta: I C
[17:25] <TDJACR> krababbel: Neither did I
[17:25] <usr13> yatta: So just ditch 9.04
[17:25] <yatta> usr13, also because of that boot time is slow
[17:26] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: I'm on a Linux box. Get the same errors with Ubuntu and Arch
[17:26] <yatta> so yes I amgoing to remove ubuntu 9.04
[17:26] <ClientAlive> It seems I have all the alsa stuff and pulsaudio, etc, etc. I'm wondering if I shouldn't check my bios settings, as this is a relatively new build and the sound has never worked on it yet.
[17:26] <TDJACR> They mount fine and sound okay (no click of death)
[17:26] <TDJACR> I'm just wary of using them with thousands of reported errors
[17:26] <Poindexter_> TD check to see if there is an upgrade for the BIOS and check the manufacturer.
[17:26] <WeThePeople> hi
[17:26] <krababbel> TDJACR: other than switching cables, try formatting and using the drive, you'd see if smart is right
[17:26] <ClientAlive> brb
[17:26] <linuxfan> i am running christian ubuntu edition every one!! 9.04
[17:27] <usr13> ClientAlive: Are you sure it's not muted or turned down and that you have working speakers plugged into an active port?
[17:27] <krababbel> TDJACR: fill them with something
[17:27] <TDJACR> I'm going to use dd and fill with random data. If it gets an IO error, I'll know
[17:27] <marcappuccino> format using the GUID partition table as it is more modern
[17:27] <yatta> can anyone tell me what's default of type of visualization in movie player?
[17:27] <krababbel> TDJACR: usually these things either break completely in a short time, or they are good for a long time
[17:27] <Poindexter_> Krababbel, good point. But, I should hope that there is no DATA on the drives. Formatting is always good but consider the file type.
[17:28] <szal> [19:25:06] <linuxfan> yes yatta cuase I think I have no internet <- how are you here then?
[17:28] <marcappuccino> but remember to add a 1MB biosgrup flagged partition (you are not limited to 4 primary partitions)
[17:28] <krababbel> Poindexter_: I guess these are new and empty :)
[17:28] <conradin> lickalot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1172222/
[17:28] <linuxfan> szal I am tethering my sister android phone
[17:29] <TDJACR> krababbel: Poindexter_  They're empty. I have four drives currently in RAID-1  (two pair), and I'm about to make a 5-drive raid-6 array. I need to put all the files on the 3 TB drives, so they have to be reliable
[17:29] <GiantChip> how can i make it so the swapdrive partition is on from start up.
[17:29] <lickalott> trying now conradin
[17:29] <Poindexter_> TD you never mentioned RAID.
[17:29] <Poindexter_> That is a different story.
[17:29] <marcappuccino> @Giantchip it is already activated on startup
[17:29] <amaar> hi
[17:30] <GiantChip> marcappuccino> no it's not. I have to manually turn it on after every restart
[17:30] <Poindexter_> RAID with USB is not a great idea.
[17:30] <Poindexter_> Unless you have a USB HUB internal.
[17:30] <marcappuccino> @Giantchip go on gparted and look at your swap partition it should have a lock symbol next to it if not right click > swapon
[17:31] <linuxfan> thinking of dual booting windows and linux
[17:31] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: The drives with the SMART errors are neither in RAID or on USB
[17:31] <linuxfan> unless I can get internet first
[17:31] <TDJACR> Poindexter_: They are connected SATA, internal, and aren
[17:31] <TDJACR> t in an arry
[17:31] <Poindexter_> The higher the frequency of th4e CPU and any device means critical location of the physical device.
[17:32] <GiantChip> marcappuccino> that's the steps i have to do manually everytime i restart. I want it to be turned on auto for that
[17:32] <marcappuccino> Usually it is, is this a fresh install?
[17:32] <EmoSpice> GiantChip: looking to enable swap on startup? (or did I read wrong?)
[17:32] <Poindexter_> Location of internal cables is critical as well.
[17:33] <GiantChip> EmoSpice> i want to to be turned on when startup.
[17:33] <marcappuccino> Maybe something in /etc/fstab but im not experienced with that
[17:33] <[snake]> I think I fixed my grub resolution, how do I get into the menu?
[17:33] <GiantChip> marcappuccino> I know. but for some reason it doens't do that.
[17:33] <EmoSpice> GiantChip: Is the drive present in /etc/fstab?
[17:33] <linuxfan> snake ? how is your internet speed?
[17:33] <EmoSpice> marcappuccino: luckily, I am :P
[17:33] <marcappuccino> :)
[17:33] <[snake]> linuxfan, about 300kb/s
[17:33] <lickalott> conradin - ./run.csh: line 6: wait: pid 5 is not a child of this shell
[17:33] <lickalott> ^Csed: -e expression #1, char 2: extra characters after command
[17:34] <Poindexter_> RAID arrays can emit crosstalk across the cables if they are too close at high frequencies.
[17:34] <linuxfan> snake been thinking bout using verizon vs tmobile?
[17:35] <GiantChip> EmoSpice> yes
[17:36] <[snake]> linuxfan, lol... looking at my interwebz when I join the channel have you? I might recommend it... I'm not sure. It's really my dad's I don't pay for internet.
[17:36] <[snake]> how do I grub menu when I boot up? shift or something right?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: hold SHIFT at boot
[17:37] <linuxfan> snake -oh, just considering verizon cuase I know it claims to be fast
[17:37] <EmoSpice> GiantChip: can you pastebin the file? (please don't use pastebin.com)
[17:37] <[snake]> ActionParsnip, thanks you're always good help :)
[17:37] <[snake]> linuxfan, no one claims to be slow though :P otherwise they wouldn't sell haha.
[17:38] <Poindexter_> TD have you tried the same configuration with another computer?
[17:38] <GiantChip> EmoSpice> think i saved a step there
[17:38] <linuxfan> snake- tmobile is cheaper price
[17:39] <GiantChip> EmoSpice> i'm lookign at it now says that swap was on /dev/sdb5 during installation. I don't have a sdb5 it's odd. can i cahnge it to current layer?
[17:39] <mrkent> anyone know how to check what my "system fixed width font" is?
[17:39] <marcappuccino> Snake - are you using a 3g dongle
[17:39] <marcappuccino> I@mrkent if you are using ubuntu it is Ubuntu Mono
[17:39] <zetheroo> I want to rsync the contents of my /Home/user/Pictures directory to /mnt/2TB/Pictures .... what is the best command for that?
[17:39] <conradin> lickalot, is think there needs to be a space in $ip ... $i p
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: I'd use grsync if you have a desktop UI
[17:40] <EmoSpice> zetheroo: rsync
[17:40] <conradin> also, it seems to baulk at wait. perhaps sleep will work better
[17:40] <zetheroo> I would use the Deja Dup Backup solution in Ubuntu, but I am not sure how it backs up ...
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> !backup | zetheroo
[17:40] <linuxfan> thanks to every one for help, time to experiment on getting my audio problem fixed
[17:41] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: is grsync a GUI for rsync?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: yes
[17:41] <JessicaW> how do you reinstall a module?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> !info grsync
[17:42] <johan_1337> please help me i cant uninstall or install from software manager, what to do?
[17:42] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ok will check it out - tks
[17:42] <k1l_> johan_1337: why that? is there an error message?
[17:42] <lidar> wb me
[17:42] <b3rz3rk3r_> im trying to change the I/O scheduler to "noop" on my SSD. It's mounted in Fstab as "sdd", but i get an error saying it doesnt exist? Gparted shows it as "sdc" but when trying to change that i get permission denied, even with sudo and correct password. Help?
[17:43] <k1l_> johan_1337: open a terminal and type: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"  and put the output into a pastebini pls
[17:43] <JessicaW> cifs module appears to have something wrong with it.
[17:43] <johan_1337> it says another software is using it but i had reboot my computer 2 times
[17:43] <JessicaW> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1172241/
[17:43] <marcappuccino> Did it say something about /var/lock or something?
[17:43] <marcappuccino> johan
[17:44] <johan_1337> i sent the output to you
[17:44] <marcappuccino> did you
[17:45] <marcappuccino> where?
[17:45] <k1l_> johan_1337: support ply just in this channel
[17:45] <andrewx> Anyone here familiar with 'xclip' utility?
[17:45] <k1l_> johan_1337: but did you try the command that is mentioned in the error msg?
[17:46] <johan_1337> it is downloading something for platinum art sandbox
[17:46] <johan_1337> i typed sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:46] <EmoSpice> andrewx: somewhat, why?
[17:46] <andrewx> printf ${cmd} | xclip -i -selection clipboard    cmd='this is a test', only "this" gets copied! why? how do I get whole string with spaces?
[17:46] <johan_1337> how can i stop the download? i need to save connection i have mobile broadband
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: you may need to escape the spaces
[17:47] <marcappuccino> If it is from the terminal try Ctrl + D
[17:47] <andrewx> Example please?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> andrewx:   cmd='this\ is\ a\ test'
[17:47] <andrewx> oh dear...
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: or try using double quots
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> andrewx:  cmd="this is a test"
[17:48] <andrewx> " does what ' does
[17:48] <andrewx> won't work! :(
[17:48] <EmoSpice> if I'm not mistaken, double quotes fixes that in sane shells.
[17:48] <Newb100> Hi, Im trying to use putty to ssh into nother computer, cant seem to do it
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: try with the escaped characters
[17:48] <Newb100> Hi, Im trying to use putty to ssh into nother computer, cant seem to do it. any help?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: did you install openssh-server
[17:48] <LiDaR> !patience > Newb100
[17:48] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, yep
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: please don't repeast like that
[17:49] <andrewx> This isn't working!
[17:49] <andrewx> I actually get \ now! in the string
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: can the system ssh to localhost?
[17:49] <johan_1337> what is this commando doing?  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:49] <JessicaW> trying to figure out how to remove a module with modprobe
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: have you asked in #bash ?
[17:49] <andrewx> next suggestion?
[17:49] <andrewx> I think its either an issue with xclip, globbing, or some such...
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: sudo modprobe -r name
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: the man pae tells you, there's nothing to 'work out'
[17:50] <belgianguy> anyone know if the OpenJDK is vulnerable to the 0-day Java exploit?
[17:50] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: thanks. do I need to stop the services associated with it first?
[17:50] <LiDaR> johan_1337: updates package list from server .. then updates the packages on your computer
[17:50] <k1l_> johan_1337: it updates your system.
[17:50] <marcappuccino> it is updating the packages you have then upgrading your software johan
[17:50] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, I loaded putty on my machine and the host machine. I'm unclear what to after that point.
[17:50] <k1l_> johan_1337: come back when you have you not-mobil connection set up
[17:50] <EmoSpice> andrewx:  echo "this is a test" | xclip -i -selection clipboard
[17:50] <EmoSpice> works just fine for me
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: can the system connect to itself via ssh?
[17:50] <johan_1337> ok
[17:50] <johan_1337> bye
[17:50] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, will try
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: isn't that an obvious thing to try first?
[17:51] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, should it make a difference if I'm running it in a virtual machine
[17:51] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I'm not just trying to work out how to remove it. I'm trying to figure out why it stopped working in the first place and fix it. modprobe cifs > FATAL: Module .ignore_install not found.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: you may need to set the network to bridged, so it appears on the LAN, otherwise you will need to setup extra stuff
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: what does the output mean?
[17:52] <zetheroo> with rsync, if a file is deleted from the source location will it be deleted from the destination ?
[17:52] <LiDaR> i cant get below 200 mb of ram usage im stuck at 214
[17:52] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: No clue. I've googled it several different ways and no one seems to know what it is.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: no,its just copied over if there is a newer version on the source
[17:53] <andrewx> Yippee! #Bash fixed it! Thanks!
[17:53] <mrkent> marcappuccino, I just switched from mint to archlinux, but I like the default font in mint
[17:53] <marcappuccino> Increase swappiness - google it
[17:53] <EmoSpice> andrewx: what was it?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: its a network setting in virtualbox, you'll need to power off the vm to change it. Can the system ssh to itself?
[17:53] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: is there any way to have it so that if a file is removed from the source it is also removed from the destination?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: sweet
[17:53] <marcappuccino> I beleive it still is ubuntu mono
[17:53] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: it's not a virtual machine. It's a physical server
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: there is an option for that, i'm unsure if it's in the GUI. The GUI does give the command it is running so you can copy it and modify
[17:54] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: and yes. it can ssh to itself.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: can the client ping the server?
[17:54] <andrewx> Proper syntax is:  printf '%s' "$cmd" | xclip -i -selection clipboard
[17:54] <andrewx> that works perfectly!
[17:54] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:54] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: and I can mount the shares from any of my other linux boxes.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: try:   ssh -vv username@server
[17:56] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: we do not have ssh enabled on that windows machine.
[17:56] <belgianguy> anyone know if the OpenJDK is vulnerable to the 0-day Java exploit?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: oh, then is there a logging option in putty?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: I'd ask in #java
[17:57] <iunruh> anyone here experienced with lightdm + LDAP?
[17:57] <baizon> belgianguy: i think so, because its based on Oracle Java
[17:57] <iunruh> anyone at alllll
[17:57] <jasonz> unable to buy software from ubuntu software centre after buying humble bundle can anyone help?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> iunruh: give people a chance to reply....jesus
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> iunruh: 9 seconds is all you waited, literally
[17:58] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: yes.
[17:58] <marcappuccino> @jasonz how is there an error message
[17:58] <JessicaW> belgianguy: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852051
[17:58] <HAMKoot> belgianguy, no, OpenJDK is not affected, AFAIK.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: ok then use the logs and see what is going on
[17:58] <iunruh> ActionParsnip: it was for dramatic effect!
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: I'd switch the networking to bridged
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> iunruh: it didn't work
[17:59] <trism> JessicaW: do you have a .conf file with an install cifs line in /etc/modprobe.d/ ? I noticed some random superuser question with something like: install cifs /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install cifs; and I notice if you typo --ignore-install as .ignore-install it gives the error from your pastebin
[17:59] <belgianguy> thx JessicaW, that's what I needed to see
[17:59] <javier_nicolas> a question for developers of webapps is here? it's about a "bug", or not, that is my question
[18:00] <JessicaW> trism: checking
[18:00] <HAMKoot> JessicaW, "IcedTea-Web using OpenJDK7 blocks this exploit by not allowing applet to change the SecurityManager (which is allowed in Oracle and IBM Java plugin) " so not affected
[18:01] <baizon> HAMKoot: thanks for the info, didnt know that
[18:01] <baizon> and sorry for the wrong information
[18:01] <JessicaW> ditto
[18:01] <JessicaW> trism: install cifs /sbin/modprobe .ignore-install cifs
[18:01] <belgianguy> ah, thanks for the extra clarification HAMKoot
[18:01] <JessicaW> trism: looks right to me
[18:01] <JessicaW> trism: err... I mean wrong
[18:02] <JessicaW> trism: do you have a link for that?
[18:02] <jotajota> someone know an mirc scripting channel?
[18:03] <javier_nicolas> can I make a question from Webapps here?
[18:03] <trism> JessicaW: this is the superuser question, looks like a workaround, but it has no answers: http://superuser.com/questions/459689/how-to-disable-opportunity-locking-on-red-hat-5-centos-5 (not really sure what it is for, I don't actually have a cifs .conf file here, just made one for testing)
[18:03] <baizon> jotajota: wrong channel for a windows app =)
[18:03] <LiDaR> mirc is a windows program use xchat .. or something linux!
[18:04] <JessicaW> trism: TOTALLY JUST FIXED IT
[18:04] <trism> JessicaW: excellent
[18:04] <Aegir> Aegir (Has quit)
[18:04] <JessicaW> trism: I want to make out with you right now. THANK YOU.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> jotajota: irssi has a tonne of scripting ability
[18:04] <EmoSpice> weechat ftw :P
[18:05] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, So I load up putty gui, then what do I do?
[18:05] <Pici> javier_nicolas: This channel is for support of the Ubuntu distro, theres probably a better channel for your question.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: no idea, i don't us it
[18:05] <jotajota> ActionParsnip irssi?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> jotajota: yes
[18:06] <Pici> !alis | javier_nicolas
[18:06] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> XChat is bets
[18:06] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> *best
[18:06] <iunruh> irssi!
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: not for scripting :)
[18:06] <baizon> indeed, using xchat :)
[18:06] <EmoSpice> weechat!
[18:06] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> irssi is great for commands
[18:06] <EmoSpice> are we just shouting names of software we like?
[18:06] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> and advanced
[18:06] <javier_nicolas> ok, thanks
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: thats what is needed, xchat doesn't fit the needs here
[18:06] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> using
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: so is in no way best
[18:06] <Pici> !best
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> <3 irssi
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: mainly because a single best doesn't exist
[18:07] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> There are three FloodBots
[18:07] <jotajota> does anyone know anything about mirc scripting or where to get help in this network?
[18:07] <Pici> ZDroid_Ubuntu: Thats right.
[18:07] <Pici> jotajota: try ##mirc
[18:07] <belgianguy> Dora the Explorer: Three!
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> jotajota: try in ##windows
[18:07] <jotajota> thanks
[18:08] <jotajota> i'll be using a linux alternative in some days
[18:08] <ssta> ircii ftw :)
[18:09] <marcappuccino> Anyone know why there are random horizontal red lines in XChat
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> pidgin here :)
[18:09] <Pici> Can we please get back to support?
[18:09] <EmoSpice> marcappuccino: I think that's focus indication?
[18:09] <EmoSpice> do they happen when you switch away from the window?
[18:09] <HAMKoot> marcappuccino, it is a last view line
[18:09] <marcappuccino> What is that?
[18:10] <HAMKoot> marcappuccino, or "mark line' in preferences.
[18:10] <EmoSpice> it's point when you last viewed the window.
[18:10] <marcappuccino> Oh i swiched windows and the line appeared
[18:10] <marcappuccino> Thanks
[18:10] <jotajota> is there any problem update the kernel in ubuntu?
[18:10] <LiDaR> Pici: what support do you need ?
[18:11] <marcappuccino> @jojota no...? why would there be
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> jotajota: no, they are downloaded in normal updates
[18:11] <Pici> LiDaR: *I* don't need any support, but this channel is for supporting others, not random chat about what IRC client is best.
[18:11] <marcappuccino> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:12] <EmoSpice> boy...I didn't see any support requests come in while we were talking. I guess we should've been just waiting for someone to ask, rather than carrying on a somewhat meaningful conversation in the mantime.
[18:12] <EmoSpice> s/mantime/mean time/
[18:12] <marcappuccino> Bye everyone
[18:12] <xangua> EmoSpice: that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for , This is Only support
[18:13] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, When I ssh into the computer, I try to open gedit but it fails
[18:13] <brian__> hi
[18:13] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, nano and Vi wirk though?
[18:14] <EmoSpice> Newb100: enable X11 forwarding
[18:14] <LiDaR> Newb100: gedit is gui program you will need to use nano / vi or other cli program
[18:14] <cherfas> every few seconds the multimedia gets lagged for a second or so. it happens in flash, and also when playing music that is stored on my computer. also, i checked the system monitor and i'v noticed that every time it happens one of my cpus peaks.
[18:14] <cherfas> system: linuxmint maya 13 ,processor: quad core cpu intel i5-2500k, 8GB ram , graphics card: Geforce GTX560 Ti
[18:14] <brian__> Does anyone know how to read the first 3 bits of a ushort in python (already asked python)
[18:14] <LiDaR> cherfas: it is because your not using ubuntu!!
[18:15] <cherfas> LiDaR, linuxmint is pretty much the same no?
[18:15] <brian__> i use mint and i can open gedit and play videos using mplayer on remote machine over ssh
[18:15] <EmoSpice> ...again: enable X11 forwarding.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: do you have xming installed and running?
[18:16] <Pici> !mintsupport | cherfas
[18:16] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, Nope
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: your junk Windows OS doesn't have an X server to attach the apps to, so you need to install and run one
[18:16] <cherfas> ok thanks
[18:16] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Quit)
[18:16] <brian__> Does anyone know how to read the first 3 bits of a ushort in python (already asked python)
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: you also need to enable the option in putty to allow X applications to run
[18:17] <brian__> whats the terminal command that tells you what version of operating system your using
[18:17] <EmoSpice> brian__: cat /etc/motd will give you some distro specific stuff, but if it's stuff like kernal etc that you want, use uname.
[18:18] <Pici> brian__: lsb_release -r
[18:18] <WeThePeople> brian__, see #programming
[18:18] <WeThePeople> ##
[18:18] <Pici> brian__: and you'll need to use #python, we cannot support those sorts of things here.
[18:18] <brian__> EmoSpice:  Thats the one i was looking
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: http://ait.web.psi.ch/services/ssh/images/putty-xf.gif    shows how you can enable X forwarding in putty
[18:20] <Newb100> yks
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: running xming and that option before starting the connection, you can run GUI apps
[18:21] <Newb100> cool
[18:22] <krychu> Hi all, I was wondering if it is possible to write any extensions/plugins to ubuntu HUD ?
[18:22] <tziemann_> yes
[18:22] <tziemann_> anything is possible with Linux
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: its fun to run GUI sound apps and the sound willcome from the server but be controllable by the client system :)
[18:23] <EmoSpice> or just use mpd :)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> EmoSpice: x forwarding is easier to setup :)
[18:23] <krychu> tziemann_: but is there any API or this would rather mean changing the sources of the HUD?
[18:23] <EmoSpice> ActionParsnip: then you've been setting up mpd wrong :P
[18:24] <tziemann_> krychu: Yes there is 3 ways actually
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> EmoSpice: the openssh-server is all you need to install, mpd needs tweaking and such
[18:24] <EmoSpice> ActionParsnip: No more than any other media client. Irregardless, I don't want to start a flame war :P
[18:25] <krychu> tziemann_: I couldn't find any specific information on it, could you point me to some good sources?
[18:25] <tziemann_>  yeah
[18:27] <tziemann_> krychu: Here you go, hope this helps. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=write+extensions%2Fplugins+to+ubuntu+HUD
[18:28] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, Yep x11 works but vert very slow
[18:29] <Pici> krychu: sorry about that, let me see if I can get you something that actually might be useful.
[18:29] <krychu> Pici: thanks
[18:29] <natsirt> hello
[18:29] <morganwk> can someone help me with compiling a tarball
[18:29] <morganwk> nothing I try works
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: try enablingcompression
[18:31] <Pici> krychu: You might be able to find some resources by asking the devs in #ubuntu-unity
[18:31] <morganwk> hm
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: is there no ppa?
[18:31] <k1l_> morganwk: what are you trying, what doesnt work? any errors?
[18:31] <krychu> Pici: thank you, I wasn't aware of that channel
[18:33] <morganwk> so: I download the tar.gz, I extract it, and then, as my linuxer friend suggested, I opened up the command and typed "make" and then the directory of the extracted tar.  then it said: "make: Nothing to be done for" and then the directory.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: what is it a tarball of?
[18:33] <morganwk> boodler
[18:33] <krychu> Pici: it is a part of a research project, I don't have experience with ubuntu, would you perhaps know how to get menu items (structure) of all applications installed in ubuntu? I tried dbusmenu.Client().get_root() but that returns nothing
[18:33] <morganwk> some ambience generator thing
[18:34] <morganwk> why isn't there a program that compiles stuff for you by now?
[18:34] <morganwk> it's far too complicated
[18:34] <v0lksman> ^ love this statement
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: compilingisn't for the lay-user
[18:35] <k1l_> !compile | morganwk
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: what is the name of the tarball you extracted?
[18:35] <morganwk> ummm
[18:35] <eamagoo_> hi
[18:35] <natsirt> krychu: did that work?
[18:35] <morganwk> Boodler-2.0.4.tar.gz
[18:35] <eamagoo_> I need some help
[18:36] <v0lksman> morganwk: http://boodler.org/dl/doc/install.html
[18:36] <v0lksman> no make needed...it's a python script
[18:36] <krychu> natsirt: no, that returned None
[18:36] <eamagoo_> I think I broke udev config
[18:36] <k1l_> !ask | eamagoo_
[18:37] <eamagoo_> or something
[18:37] <morganwk> so it tells me things to type in the prompt, however
[18:37] <morganwk> does it need the directory?
[18:37] <qrostnia> .
[18:37] <qrostnia> ··"[FloodBot1]"··
[18:37] <sukima> When I put the Ubuntu ISO on a thumb drive I can run it on several machines. But when I insytalled Ubuntu to an external drive and tried to boot one each machine the graphics have errors. How do you install all the benifits of a "live USB ISO" on an installed Ubuntu system?
[18:37] <devccplus>      
[18:37] <Pici> krychu: I don't have enough familiarity with dbus or HUD to be able to answer you.
[18:37] <krychu> Pici: ok, thank you anyways will ask the unity guys
[18:38] <johan_1337> how to update kubuntu system?
[18:38] <v0lksman> morganwk: If you list the source directory, you will see the following arrangement:
[18:38] <v0lksman> morganwk: 1) Type python setup.py build
[18:38] <eamagoo_> ok, sory, as I said I think I broke udev config or fstab because I cant mount my pen drive anymore
[18:38] <k1l_> johan_1337: are you on not-mobil now?
[18:38] <morganwk> it says no such file or directory
[18:38] <johan_1337> i am on mobil but i still need help
[18:39] <v0lksman> morganwk: did you list the directory and see the same thing as they list on the install doc?
[18:39] <k1l_> johan_1337: you will need to download files
[18:39] <krychu> natsirt: I tried dbusmenu-dumper but it complains about com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar name not being provided by any service
[18:39] <LiDaR> johan_1337: does the computer have a internet conenction ?
[18:39] <johan_1337> i have 3 gig now to download
[18:39] <Kartagis> hi
[18:39] <k1l_> johan_1337: then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: I found a PPA butits for Karmic
[18:39] <johan_1337> my friend helped my with 3 gig
[18:39] <Kartagis> can you remind me the name of the cairo-dock config tool?
[18:40] <natsirt> krychu: Did you try development
[18:40] <eamagoo_> the goal is to connect to a iscsi storage
[18:40] <johan_1337> thanks
[18:40] <eamagoo_> i did that but I cant make permanent
[18:40] <eamagoo_> I need the conection ready on boot
[18:41] <krychu> natsirt: no, I installed 12.04.1
[18:41] <johan_1337> can someone help me with widgets? i klick download but it wont download widgets
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: you do realise that app hasn't been updated since 7th March 2011.....its pretty dead
[18:41] <natsirt> krychu: interesting...
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> morganwk: what does the app do?
[18:41] <johan_1337> please help me with that <k1l_>
[18:41] <k1l_> johan_1337: sry i dont know kde
[18:42] <johan_1337> ok, what OS are you using?
[18:43] <k1l_> johan_1337: ubuntu :) but not with kde
[18:43] <v0lksman> morganwk: it's python so you could also try 'pip install boodler' granted it won't install 2.0.4 it will be 2.0.3 but much less hassle
[18:43] <johan_1337> ok
[18:44] <k1l_> johan_1337: but your last problem was that you wanted to update your system :/
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> v0lksman: s/he's gone
[18:45] <sukima> How do you install *all* graphics drivers and have the system autodetect?
[18:45] <johan_1337> yes?
[18:45] <v0lksman> ActionParsnip: yep...was just about to get to the good parts...installing python headers... :)  ah well
[18:45] <johan_1337> it went well
[18:45] <johan_1337> thankyou :D
[18:45] <Kartagis> !find ccsm
[18:45] <Kartagis> !info ccsm
[18:46] <k1l_> johan_1337: ok
[18:46] <johan_1337> someone know why i cant download widgets?
[18:47] <tech1> you cant download them or cant install them?
[18:47] <jellf> hi all
[18:47] <pseudo> hi guys, I am having problems with ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop - my native resolution is 1366x768, but xrandr is reporting 1024x768 as my resolution - I am having trouble tracing the source of this issue, could I get a nudge in the right dirrection?
[18:47] <pseudo> xf86-video-intel is my driver
 can you help me? how to open download widget panel from terminal with sudo command?
[18:48] <dr_willis> download widgit panel?
[18:49] <k1l_> johan_1337: im not familiar with the kde stuff. but i dont think sudo will be a good idea on gui
[18:49] <dr_willis> oh kde.. why do you need to run it as root?
[18:49] <johan_1337> the panel you download widget in
[18:49] <k1l_> but im sure, if you decribe your problem with errormessages etc some kde guy will jump in
[18:49] <johan_1337> dr willis
[18:49] <johan_1337> ok
[18:49] <jtannenbaum> what should I reformat my new external to, ext4?
[18:49] <jtannenbaum> it'll be for music, movies, etc
[18:49] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  depends on your needs and ussage.
[18:49] <marcappuccino> yes - it is the most modern
[18:50] <jtannenbaum> just music and movies basically
[18:50] <jtannenbaum> 1TB
[18:50] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum: linux only system to access it?
[18:50] <k1l_> jtannenbaum: ext4 is a good choice if its never gonna come to a windows pc
[18:50] <belgianguy> NTFS if using both Windows and Linux to access it
[18:50] <jtannenbaum> I might want to connect it to a windows 7 laptop but if the difference is really that great
[18:50] <johan_1337> ext4 format is the fastest for copy files to?
[18:50] <marcappuccino> you can install apps for windows to recognise ext partitions
[18:50] <jtannenbaum> oh really then ext4 it is
[18:51] <marcappuccino> ext2 is the fastest but not journaled
[18:51] <jtannenbaum> should i reformat the partition or the entire drive
[18:51] <SolarisB2y> its fast cause its not journaled afaik =)
[18:51] <k1l_> jtannenbaum: you cant access ext* from windows (that easy)
[18:51] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  you have 2 partitions?
[18:51] <soman> Trying to run gedit (sudo gedit) and get an error: gedit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute What is the reason?
[18:51] <Newb100> ActionParsnip, Yep x11 works but vert very slow?
[18:51] <jtannenbaum> no, it's new, just one 1TB partition
[18:51] <jtannenbaum> currently NTFS
[18:51] <k1l_> soman: dont run sudo gedit :X
[18:51] <dr_willis> som use gksudo for gui apps...
[18:51] <jtannenbaum> soman: gksu not sudo
[18:52] <k1l_> soman: you will break your rights from the files you open with that
[18:52] <jtannenbaum> ext2 is the fastest but what is journaling
[18:52] <k1l_> jtannenbaum: keep it with ntfs then
[18:52] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  you can keep it ntfs if you wanted.. it wont matter much. and ext2 is not always the 'fastest'
[18:52] <jtannenbaum> alright sounds good
[18:53] <jtannenbaum> oops, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1"
[18:53] <soman> k1l_: with gksudo terminal stays some seconds and command is returned with no run applicatiob...
[18:53] <Newb100> Hoe to view gedit through SSH from ubuntu comand line to ubuntu
[18:54] <Boffy> i think NTFS will become fragmented
[18:54] <dr_willis> Newb100: enable ssh x forwarding
[18:54] <SolarisB2y> Newb100: possibly by forwarding xX
[18:54] <SolarisB2y> ssh -X Newb100
[18:54] <dr_willis> !ssh
[18:54] <LiDaR> Newb100: gedit is just s simple text editor .. if that is all you need just use nano
[18:54] <marcappuccino> ntfs is not very stable with ubuntu nor is (ext)fat
[18:54] <k1l_> marcappuccino: ntfs is stbale enough
[18:54] <SolarisB2y> its stable for me
[18:55] <marcappuccino> well, worse than ext1-4
[18:55] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g seems to work quite well
[18:55] <SolarisB2y> naturally
[18:55] <k1l_> marcappuccino: and to install hackish driver stuff on every windows machine you put that drive is not a solution imho
[18:55] <Newb100> Why is so much faster ssh -x from an ubuntu to an ubuntu and so slow windows to ubuntu?
[18:55] <jtannenbaum> I reformatted it to NTFS and it's still not mounting
[18:55] <johan_1337> now i am formating my usb drive to ext2, something baad with that?
[18:55] <marcappuccino> of course, but is you must use windows, then that is the way to access ext drives
[18:56] <dr_willis> Newb100:  -x is VERY different then -X for ssh
[18:56] <SolarisB2y> Newb100: thats disabling forwarding
[18:56] <SolarisB2y> Newb100: you want to enable it
[18:56] <SolarisB2y> Newb100: -X (capital)
[18:56] <Kartagis> why can't I get ccsm when I search for it?
[18:56] <Newb100> I meant -X
[18:56] <marcappuccino> ext 2 is besster for usb drives as it does not write with journals as much and preserves the lifespan
[18:56] <SolarisB2y> thats not doing anything that will make it faster
[18:56] <Newb100> Why is so much faster ssh -X from an ubuntu to an ubuntu and so slow windows to ubuntu?
[18:56] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[18:57] <SolarisB2y> Newb100: use -vvv if your interested it's likely a fluke
[18:57] <marcappuccino> try launching 'gksudo ccsm' from termiinal
[18:57] <johan_1337> thanks for everything, bye m8:es
[18:57] <dr_willis> Newb100:  i use xming on windows to ssh forard. seems to work well
[18:58] <Newb100> dr_willis, How do use it?
[18:58] <dr_willis> Newb100:  go to xming homepage, download, install, run.. check its docs
[18:58] <SolarisB2y> sorry for offtopic question - is there a listing of TZ data in the format that the linux text files expects them? like on wikipedia or such? Example Asia/Jakarta - i'd just like an exhaustive listing of all of them if possible
[18:59] <marcappuccino> ext2 does not use journalling - therefore does not perform extra writes that ext3/4 would otherwise do
[18:59] <marcappuccino> ...so it is faster
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Newb100: try enabling compression
[18:59] <SolarisB2y> or even switching to different encryption
[19:00] <motaka2> where is ubuntu 12.04 synaptic manager ?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> motaka2: its not installed by defaultbut is available for install
[19:00] <dr_willis> synaptic is not installed by default
[19:00] <motaka2> ActionParsnip: So what should I do ?
[19:01] <dr_willis> install it.. if you want it......
[19:01] <motaka2> ActionParsnip: from where I can install softwares ?
[19:01] <Alpha-Omega_> I just installed openbox, I'm trying to get nm-applet to work, but it says "NetworkManager is not running..."
[19:01] <marcappuccino> install through software centre search 'synaptic'
[19:01] <dr_willis> !manual | motaka2
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> motaka2: software centre
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega_: sudo restart network-manager    maybe
[19:02] <jtannenbaum> its taking forever to format this partition to ext4
[19:02] <Alpha-Omega_> ActionParsnip: it's already running, but let me try
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: how big is it?
[19:03] <jtannenbaum> 1TB
[19:03] <kurtwp_> using 12.04 desktop and I want to connect to a windows share do I need to have samba installed on the ubuntu desktop
[19:03] <dr_willis> 'hurry up and learn patience'
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: it'll take a while, depending on speed etc
[19:03] <Alpha-Omega_> ActionParsnip:  now I'm getting no network connection
[19:04] <Alpha-Omega_> I'm using a cable right now and I want to use the wifi on it
[19:04] <Alpha-Omega_> yet it says no connection
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega_: reboot and you'll be back where you started. You can always install wicd then uninstall network manager, may be friendlier
[19:05] <Alpha-Omega_> ActionParsnip: how would I add the network-manager service to startup?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega_: not sure of that, I thought it added when you installed the package
[19:08] <Alpha-Omega_> ActionParsnip: maybe idk let me restart computer
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega_: could run:    sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -l | grep network-ma | awk {'print $2'}`
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[19:10] <jtannenbaum> woah, I still can't mount this external hard drive
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: can you mount it manually?
[19:10] <jtannenbaum> [1545628.860665] EXT3-fs: sdb1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240).
[19:10] <EnderTheThird> Anyone know how to modify xorg.conf on a live Ubuntu USB drive?  I've been reading that my cheap Korean monitor doesn't give corred EDID info, so I'm hoping that entering stuff manually in xorg.conf will let the thing boot with a display
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: what file system did you format it?
[19:11] <ClientAlive> still no sound. I checked my bios settings and took a peek at what drivers I have installed - I'm not very fmailiar with what things ought to be like so not sure if I'm missing something or not. Can anyone please help me get the sound working on this beast?
[19:11] <jtannenbaum> ext4
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> EnderTheThird: have you tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[19:11] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:11] <thierry__> Please, i am trying to port ubuntu-core on my Pandaboard B1 , i have installed Xorg and openBox, for now, i'm using a serial terminal to get output: my first question is, when i launsh startx , nothing happens , normally the terminal should change? is it a miciom restricion?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1; sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[19:12] <thierry__>  second question : what packages should i add to get the output via HDMI?
[19:12] <EnderTheThird> ActionParsnip:  I can do that now.  brb.
[19:12] <jtannenbaum> ActionParsnip: great, thanks
[19:12] <jtannenbaum> how can I make it do that every time
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: did it mount?
[19:13] <jtannenbaum> yes
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: run:  sudo blkid | grep sdb1
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: you can then use the UUID and add it to /etc/fstab  and the option will be used every time
[19:13] <Alpha-Omega> alright, nm-applet doesn't show up on tint2 but when I randomly click on where it should be, it comes up and I select my network and nothing happens
[19:13] <jtannenbaum> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="ace" UUID="..." TYPE="ext4"
[19:14] <jtannenbaum> yea I figured.. what's the exact thing I should add I can never remember
[19:14] <cristian_c> I'm using lostirc, and I would change the quit message. I've looked for in the lostirc hidden folder of my Home directory and I've found a file called events.conf. There are these lines in this file: quit = 15--  00%1 16 has quit  15( 09%2 15)   quit2 =  15--  00%1 16 has quit, but I don't think it is the right file
[19:14] <EnderTheThird> ActionParsnip:  No dice.  Just getting a black screen.  Trying to ctrl+alt+f1 to a terminal, but no luck.
[19:15] <jtannenbaum> oh duh I bet it's because there's already an fstab entry for /etc/sdb1
[19:15] <cristian_c> How can I change my personal quit message? What's the right file to edit?
[19:15] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:15] <jtannenbaum> maybe I should just comment that out
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> EnderTheThird: did you try the safe vga boot option?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: yes, then I suggest you reboot and it should be ok
[19:15] <WeThePeople> cristian_c, use xchat ;p
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: in't it:   /quit some text here
[19:16] <jtannenbaum> "Free space: 870.1 GB" :I
[19:16] <cristian_c> WeThePeople, I'm using Lubuntu, and lostirc is a lightweight irc client
[19:16] <jtannenbaum> does journalling really use like 100 GB or is that just WD screwing with me
[19:16] <cristian_c> ActionParsnip, I don't understand?§ Can you repeat? :)
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: 5% I believe, you can use tune2fs to change it
[19:17] <EnderTheThird> ActionParsnip:  nvm, I forgot the space before nomodeset when changing the boot options
[19:17] <EnderTheThird> ActionParsnip:  Now I can get to a terminal.  I'll see if I can get it to show me a GUI with the custom xorg.conf now.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: the /quitirc command can be tailed with some text, its pretty worthless tbh
[19:18] <Teduardo> Is there a MySQL 5.6 pkg for Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> EnderTheThird: you can use:  Xorg -configure     to make a skeleton xorg.conf file you can copy to /etc/X11
[19:18] <jtannenbaum> is journalling good or bad for a drive that will have torrent data on it
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: its probably not needed if its just user data
[19:19] <jtannenbaum> so maybe I should just use ext2
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: that's an option too
[19:19] <cristian_c> ActionParsnip, it tells me: 'QUITIRC: Unknown command'
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: i'd look online for the pros and cons of both
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: the command is /quit    so you can use:   /quit bye y'all
[19:20] <ClientAlive> what does it mean in sound settings when it says "...(HDMI) output" ? Is that the normal, small round jack or is it like the hdmi from my monitor (a flat/ rectangular plug)?
[19:21] <SolarisB2y> ClientAlive: sounds coming via HDMI cable is one attached?
[19:22] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, ActionParsnip has quit (Quit: bye y'all)
[19:22] <ClientAlive> SolarisB2y: The hardware ports I have (on a desktop) are the small round ones that are internal to the mobo. They are on the back of the machine.
[19:23] <lusuhard_> hello to everyone, I just finish to install ubuntu 12.04 on my hp 6735s and I updated the BIOS so that the wireless and the screen light problem were solved, but I still can't make the system read any cd, usb key or hdd
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: thanks
[19:25] <cristian_c> actionParsnip, but this message is not stored
[19:25] <cristian_c> *ActionParsnip
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: its each time you leave you can select an exit message
[19:26] <ClientAlive> I'm not really sure what things need to be installed or how they should be configured. I did just install alsa-tools (which wasn't on there) and did a "sudo adduser <myusername> audio. Still no sound though.
[19:26] <cristian_c> ActionParsnip, I would like that the message was always the same
[19:26] <EnderTheThird> ActionParsnip: As for restarting X from tty after making my xorg.conf?  I"ve tried "killall X" but still get error about X running when i try "starts"
[19:26] <WeThePeople> lusuhard_, do you receive any error messages
[19:26] <ClientAlive> Can the little speakers I have be powered through that audio jack? I don't see that they  have a power cord - not part of their design.
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: if you run:  groups   are you in the group?
[19:27] <ClientAlive> let me see
[19:27] <lusuhard_> WeThePeople no error message, just nothing lshw shows no missing USB HUB...
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: also, did you log off and on after being added to the group?
[19:28] <cristian_c> ActionParsnip, How can I store the quit message? :)
[19:28] <cristian_c> *save
[19:29] <lusuhard_> WeThePeople http://pastebin.com/FvQLXv3V
[19:29] <ClientAlive> heere is what's listed: "<myusername> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare"  But I ran the command "sudo adduser <myusername> audio" just a few min ago. Do I have to run it as sudo groups to get everything to show?
[19:29] <jtannenbaum> errsize: 700 kB :( ddrescue work wit me
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: no idea, not something I 've bothered with
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: run:   sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER      and it will add your username to the audio group
[19:30] <guntbert> ClientAlive: if I remember correctly you have to log out and log in again
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: have you tried:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds then reboot
[19:31] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip:I did not log off and on. Let me do that and see if anything changes. Shall I log off and on first or run sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER and it will add your username to the audio group
[19:31] <mistere> sudo usermod -a -G audio $mistere
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: I'd run the command, so you know it is added to the group
[19:31] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> mistere: no, $USER is a variable for the name of the user
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> mistere: if you want to use the username as is, remove the dollar
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: ^
[19:32] <malcolm91> hello. looking for help with watching dvds...
[19:32] <ClientAlive> I replace $USER with my actual username right?
[19:32] <mistere> sudo usermod -a -G audio mistere
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: the $USER variable allows you to not worry about what the username is, great in scripts
[19:32] <tiox> I wonder, had anyone ever found a solution for the sound issues that people are having with Ubuntu?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: no, just run it as is
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: you don't have to change it in any way
[19:32] <WeThePeople> lusuhard, did you update yet
[19:32] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:32] <guntbert> !dvd | malcolm91
[19:33] <tiox> Anyone with experience updating a stock install of Ubuntu and getting sound working on some machines without having to add repositories or mess with the pre-installed software?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> tiox: yes 100% of my sound works ootb
[19:34] <tiox> ActionParsnip: Before, did the sound not work for you?
[19:34] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: ok, got that one. Should I run killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* or log off and on?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> tiox: never had that issue in 11 years of linux
[19:34] <mistere> my system not support 64bit ubuntu? i am using Corei3
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: yes, you will get default sound settings
[19:34] <lkeijser> hi
[19:34] <tiox> Well, I did, and last night, I believe that installing alsa-firmware from the medibuntu repository resolved my issue.
[19:34] <mistere> hello
[19:34] <lkeijser> is it possible to dist-upgrade 9.10
[19:34] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:35] <Alpha-Omega> I'm using Openbox and I can't get network manager to work
[19:35] <lkeijser> to whatever ubuntu is the most recent now
[19:35] <malcolm91> ubottu, I just did that. do i need to restart?
[19:35] <ClientAlive> ok, brb after reboot
[19:35] <guntbert> !eol | lkeijser
[19:35] <Alpha-Omega> I load the applet and I cant connect to any wireless networks
[19:35] <tiox> BRB,, going to reboot into a live session to see if I cannot replicate the result there.
[19:35] <Kartagis> why can't I get ccsm when I search for it?
[19:36] <lkeijser> guntbert: you are saying 9.10 is eol?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  it's compiz-config-settings- manager
[19:36] <lkeijser> yeah I figured that out by the date alone :)
[19:36] <mibofra> hi everyone :D .
[19:36] <Emil_> How can i remove the "has join messages in empathy" :P
[19:37] <guntbert> lkeijser: yes, and look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:37] <lkeijser> guntbert: sorry, line wrap caused me to miss the last part of your sentence :|
[19:37] <guntbert> lkeijser: no problem :)
[19:37] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: I can't get that either :S
[19:38] <mistere> My ubunut 12.04 not showing "Show Desktop" button? how can i fix it?
[19:38] <xangua> Emil_: you'll have better luck using a dedicatet irc client, empathy is very very limited for it
[19:38] <lkeijser> nice, thanks, going to read :)
[19:39] <guntbert> !info myunity | mistere
[19:39] <malcolm91> still can't watch dvds
[19:39] <guntbert> mistere: myunity can switch it on
[19:39] <mistere> guntbert, i try but not
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  that's odd... what ubuntu version?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> malcolm91: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:40] <mistere> guntbert, when i start my unity its msg show "Your Ubuntu 12.04 is running in 2D mode.
[19:40] <mistere> Many features will not be available."
[19:40] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: precise
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> mistere: what GPU are you using>
[19:41] <mistere> ActionParsnip, GPU?
[19:41] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, whats wrong
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> mistere: the graphical chip
[19:41] <gbag> hello, i just installed ubuntu 12.04
[19:41] <gbag> .1 (didn't mean to press enter)
[19:42] <mistere> ActionParsnip, 256MB 3d card
[19:42] <mibofra> mistere : type "lshw" in a terminale and paste the output there with pastebin :D .
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:42] <mibofra> *terminal
[19:43] <trond-> I am getting this message in .xsession-errors: recent-manager-provider.vala:133 (refering to zeitgeist) - how can I fix it?
[19:43] <gbag> i can't get my asus xonar dx sound card output 5.1 sound over 3*3.5mm analog audio jack, it will only output stereo sound. can you help?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> mistere: yes, nvidia or ati....?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> mistere: telling use the video ram isn't relevant
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> mistere: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you
[19:44] <py> hello
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> hi py
[19:44] <py> how do i open port on ubuntu iptables and its remembered ?
[19:44] <mistere> ActionParsnip, ati
[19:44] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: my bad, I was doing sudo apt-get install compiz-config...
[19:44] <dr_willis> !firewall | py
[19:44] <mistere> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  yeah, sometimes it's a detail
[19:45] <py> what is better ufw or iptables ?
[19:45] <py> i am currently connected to that machine
[19:45] <py> via ssh dont wonna luse connection
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> !ufw
[19:45] <dr_willis> ufw is a frontwnd to iptables
[19:45] <py> aha
[19:45] <py> dr_willis:
[19:45] <py> how to i open
[19:45] <py> port via iptables
[19:45] <FloodBot1> py: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <py> i tried but still not able to connect
[19:45] <dr_willis> use ufw.. its easier
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mistere: did you  install the nvidia-current package?
[19:46] <dr_willis> theres no blocked ports by default
[19:46] <py> dr_willis: but
[19:46] <py> i have service that is listening on some port
[19:46] <py> but when i try to connect
[19:46] <py> i am not able from outside machine
[19:46] <mistere> ActionParsnip, no .. where i found current packages?
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> !enter > py
[19:47] <py> sorry for flood
[19:47] <dr_willis> there are NO default firewall rules.. if your blocked you either added the rules.. or the router is doing iiit
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mistere: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:47] <py> aha
[19:47] <ki4ro_> py: Just keep typing...don't hit ENTER
[19:47] <usr13> py: What service are you trying to use?
[19:47] <ki4ro_> py: Until you are finished typing
[19:47] <py> ircd obvisuly isp is blocking
[19:47] <py> one sec
[19:47] <dr_willis> sudo iptables --list to show any rules
[19:47] <mistere> ActionParsnip, installing
[19:48] <py> dr_willis: no rules
[19:48] <usr13> py: So there you go.  You can test over your LAN with nmap.
[19:49] <py> i see lan is the problem
[19:49] <py> one sec
[19:49] <usr13> py: And then test the outside ip.
[19:49] <py> yes outside ip is blocking
[19:49] <py> one sec
[19:49] <WeThePeople> py, sudo apt-get install nmap
[19:49] <usr13> py: Then talk to your ISP
[19:49] <usr13> py: Or your router
[19:50] <mistere> ActionParsnip, done.. now?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> mistere: reboot
[19:51] <leomach> Hi.  I have a question about bash commands and awk with apache logs, is this the right channel?
[19:51] <usr13> leomach: maybe, depends....
[19:51] <guntbert> leomach: for bash commands #bash would be better suited
[19:51] <leomach> thanks
[19:51] <antivirtel> hello! Can I store the password for the device auto mounted by the /etc/crypttab encrypted? I don't want to allow someone to use a live disc to read the password from the file...
[19:52] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, I've put in the codes that were on the instructions. i don't know what's wrong.
[19:52] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, what instructions
[19:53] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:55] <mistere> ActionParsnip, me back.. but same problem
[19:55] <mistere> now?
[19:56] <guntbert> !nickspam > graingert
[19:56] <hay> hi all... I need a TrueType support compiled into libgd2 and it seems that it isn't included in packages libgd2-xmp and libgd2-xpm-dev that I have added via apt-get install... what is the easiest way to add this capability to gd2? thx
[19:56] <graingert> guntbert: "Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead." that's what I was doing
[19:57] <guntbert> graingert: but not while you are in a big channel please
[19:57] <mistere> ActionParsnip, ??
[19:57] <graingert> guntbert: it's probably worth changing that message - it's wrong
[19:58] <graingert> "set(ting) your preferred nick in your client's settings" will still cause nickspam
[19:58] <cihhan> hi all! im looking for a file synchronization software like dropbox that works on Ubuntu and does not require GUI and it should allow using my own server for file storage. Do you know any? I found lipsync but there are some bugs with that program.
[19:58] <WeThePeople> hi
[19:58] <graingert> cihhan: dropbox
[19:58] <graingert> cihhan: has a CLI
[19:58] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, what instructions
[19:58] <graingert> cihhan: otherwise GIT
[19:58] <cihhan> graingert: but it does not let me use my own server as far as i know
[19:59] <malcolm91> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs WeThePeople
[19:59] <graingert> cihhan: not what you asked for
[19:59] <graingert> cihhan: http://sparkleshare.org/linux-downloads/
[19:59] <siraj> mkdir chromium
[19:59] <siraj> cd chromium
[19:59] <siraj> repo init -u ssh://cosgit-srv.corp.lab126.com:29418/cloudos/manifest
[19:59] <siraj> repo sync -j4
[19:59] <siraj> cd src
[19:59] <siraj> # the steps below should be one-time operations:
[19:59] <FloodBot1> siraj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <siraj> build/install-build-deps.sh
[20:00] <cihhan> graingert: SparkleShare requires GUI,, unfortunately :(
[20:00] <graingert> cihhan: GIT then
[20:00] <graingert> just plain old raw git
[20:00] <cihhan> graingert: hmm, to be honest, i havent used git before. so this question might be extremely stupid, but does it allow automatic syncing? or should i sync manually?
[20:01] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, what player are you using
[20:01] <gordonjcp> cihhan: rsync over ssh?
[20:01] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, Kaffeine
[20:01] <graingert> cihhan: it's sync manually
[20:01] <graingert> cihhan: otherwise RSYNC
[20:01] <graingert> cihhan: with git you get more control
[20:01] <cihhan> in fact, lipsync is based on rsync but it was giving so many problems
[20:01] <graingert> cihhan: it depends what you want
[20:01] <krababbel> Why do I get permission denied on 'sudo echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_sack' ?
[20:01] <teicah> where did that come from?  Just chilling w/12.04.1 and I noticed it's asking me to "reboot to complete updates."  What updates?  There is nothing in /var/cache/apt/archives or the software updater!
[20:02] <graingert> krababbel: pastebin the full output
[20:02] <ClientAlive> Yay! I have sound!!
[20:02] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, it might just be codecs
[20:02] <jojoe> hello when I :ldd binary name, it tells me all the dependancys I need. Is thee some way to tell it to just apt-get everything I need?
[20:02] <WeThePeople> prob
[20:02] <krababbel> graingert: not a lot: 'bash: /etc/sysctl.d/60-gigabit.conf: Permission denied'
[20:02] <malcolm91> WeThePeople, how do i fix it?
[20:02] <ClientAlive> and I even have sound on my win7 vm -> thank you ActionParsinip/ everybody who helped
[20:03] <guntbert> krababbel: sudo is only applied to echo, not to >, you need echo 0 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_sack
[20:03] <adam__> hi
[20:03] <krababbel> guntbert: oh wow, thank you
[20:03] <guntbert> krababbel: You're welcome
[20:03] <adam__> i have a bit of a problem with the boot loader
[20:03] <ClientAlive> This thing has a lot of little issues which make it almost unbearable to use. It's a shame cause it's a new desktop and not too skimpy on resources either.
[20:03] <Emil_> I have a HP-Probook 6560b, is it possible to use the fingerprint-scanner?
[20:03] <adam__> in xubuntu
[20:04] <ClientAlive> afk for a moment
[20:04] <adam__> can't start windows 7 from it after installing xubuntu alongside it
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> adam__: what if you run:  sudo update-grub; lsb_release -a; sudo fdisk -l     can you pastebin the output please?
[20:05] <adam__> one second
[20:05] <Emil_> Where can I post bugs?
[20:05] <Kihokki> Help! My computer is stuck at boot! Only using prevorious linux kernels is working but x is not starting so all I have is console.
[20:05] <dr_willis> !bugs
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Kihokki: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[20:06] <cihhan> graingert: what i want is to be able to sync automatically between many clients using my own server
[20:06] <dr_willis> Emil_:  what bug are you reporting?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> krababbel: It's the shell that's writing to the file when you use '>', so what you're doing when you run "sudo echo foo > bar" is you're telling the shell (which is running as your user) to run "sudo echo foo" (run "echo foo" as root) and redirect the output of that to the file "bar". If the shell doesn't have permission to write to bar, running echo as root won't change that. With "echo foo | sudo tee bar" you're telling the ...
[20:06] <Jordan_U> ... shell to run "echo foo" and pipe its output to "sudo tee bar" and since it's tee that's actually writing to the file, and you've run tee as root via sudo, things actually work :)
[20:06] <jojoe> is there some way to fins all teh apt-get packages for a binaries dependancies? LDD FILENAME , is pretty cool, but it tells me nothing on how to get the packages it lists.
[20:06] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, Yes. Intel Cedarview.
[20:07] <Emil_> dr_willis: Not sure if it is a bug, but it is in the installation process.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Kihokki: then you are using open source drivers, not proprietary
[20:07] <maxvi> hello!
[20:07] <krababbel> Jordan_U: I figured it would be something like that. :) Thanks
[20:07] <Jordan_U> krababbel: You're welcome :)
[20:08] <adam__> ok im completely derping on this
[20:08] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, No. They've worked fine for two weeks until this happen.
[20:08] <jojoe> well, how about a database? Can i type the library names LDD finds into a search engine somewhere or do I just need to googole and guess the dependancies?
[20:08] <graingert> hmmf
[20:08] <adam__> how do i open up command line or whatever it is called?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Kihokki: what happends when you try to boot?
[20:08] <guntbert> !cli | adam__
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> adam__: press cTRL+ALT+T it's called a terminal
[20:09] <guntbert> adam__: ctrl+alt+t  shoud work too
[20:09] <adam__> wierd
[20:09] <adam__> it's not working
[20:09] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, There is only Ubuntu logo and dots which are not moving.
[20:09] <adam__> i have a "terminal emulator" but i can't seem to type anything in it
[20:09] <graingert> xchat-gnome doesn't seem to auth with nickserv properly
[20:09] <graingert> (hence the nickspam)
[20:09] <user82> is there a way to do a task for all subpaths if the program does not support the recursive option by itselt?
[20:09] <graingert> does it do SASL
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Kihokki: tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[20:10] <guntbert> graingert: use xchat, not xchat-gnoe
[20:10] <joegiampaoli> Anyone know how to fix this? https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B89XHw6WcgFvY2FuZWNzZVNYU2c   This happens on some websites with firefox, which font would I be missing? Thanks!
[20:10] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, Not yet
[20:10] <graingert> guntbert: y
[20:10] <dr_willis> user82:  via find, or xargs
[20:10] <jojoe> You need to use your terminal to learn your terminal... use MAN lol! why not tell him to google it, He does not know how to use a terminal, and you tell him to use a terminal? Fail.
[20:10] <user82> dr_willis do you have a link for me?
[20:11] <dr_willis> user82:  man find
[20:11] <user82> ok
[20:12] <guntbert> adam__: what happens when you press ctrl+alt+t ?
[20:12] <maxvi> I have asus ux31a and I have some problem... My fn keys don't work... I use ubuntu 12.04... Anybody know will it work on ubuntu 12.10? Thanks
[20:12] <adam__> nothing
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> maxvi: if you run:  xev     do the keys make events?
[20:13] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, It is still stuck.
[20:14] <guntbert> adam__: press alt+F2, then type gnome-terminal
[20:14] <Owner> how do i get mount.cifs on ubuntu 10.04
[20:14] <Owner> or smbmount ?
[20:15] <adam__> failed to execute child process
[20:15] <dr_willis> !find smbmount
[20:15] <dr_willis> !info smbfs
[20:15] <adam__> no such file or directory
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Owner: Lucid has less than 9 months support left, think about upgrading soon :)
[20:15] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, have you tried vlc
[20:15] <Owner> not my system
[20:15] <Owner> just need cifs
[20:16] <user82> dr_willis find gives me what i need. but i do not understand how to pass the results to the program where i need it. could you tell me please?
[20:16] <user82> the program syntax is "programname filename"
[20:16] <maxvi> ActionParsnip: No they don't make any events
[20:16] <adam__> ActionPartnership: http://pastebin.com/XFyPSuwp
[20:16] <dr_willis> user82:  check the internetz for find examples.  i rarely use it
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> maxvi: are there any bugs reported?
[20:17] <Owner> dr_willis~# thanks
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> adam__: sudo fdisk -l     nott:   sudo fdisk -1
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> adam__: l for list
[20:18] <adam__> http://pastebin.com/9PJpxyMx
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> adam__: looks detected, can you give the output of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[20:20] <marcappuccino> can anyone tell me the actual differences between ubuntu server with no extras installed on installation and regular ubuntu, apart from the desktop environment?
[20:20] <jojoe> If you only have the binaries, run ldd <binaryfilename> and guess which libs are needed from the output. <[20:20] <adam__> when i attempt to boot from the option labeled windows 7, it just goes to a black screen and then back to the boot loader
[20:21] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, How can I select gdm instead of Lightdm? I think I've found the solutuon for my problems
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: that's it, the server kernel can also use more cpu cores
[20:21] <shanecowherd> how do you mask the password when you type ssh user@server "sudo rm -rf file"
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Kihokki: just install gdm package
[20:21] <maxvi> ActionParsnip: where can i see this report?
[20:21] <marcappuccino> how many?
[20:21] <adam__> http://pastebin.com/y6Z9Ehxg
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> !bugs | maxvi
[20:21] <jojoe> I have ofer 30 dependancies listed from LDD, so I am supposed to just guess them all?
[20:21] <wizAmit> how can i install glade3 from source library
[20:22] <guntbert> shanecowherd: mask?
[20:22] <Alpha-Omega> can someone help me get my webcam working?
[20:22] <krababbel> Kihokki: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[20:22] <guntbert> !webcam | Alpha-Omega
[20:22] <marcappuccino> @Alpha which ubuntu are you running 32 or 64-bit?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158555/how-many-maximum-cpus-does-ubuntu-support-by-default
[20:22] <shanecowherd> guntbert: yeah, when i type sudo -S rm -rf file.txt
[20:22] <marcappuccino> thnks
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: source:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+desktop+kernel+maximum+cores
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: too hard?
[20:23] <shanecowherd> guntbert: it types the password in standard input and doesn't hide the letters
[20:23] <marcappuccino> hm?
[20:23] <guntbert> shanecowherd: never seen that, what is -S supposed to do?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: does it work in cheese?
[20:24] <shanecowherd> guntbert: lets you enter the password from standard input
[20:24] <Alpha-Omega> guntbert: i get an input error from vlc and cheese doesn't work
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: run:  lsusb     and use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[20:24] <adam__> ActionPartnership:http://pastebin.com/y6Z9Ehxg
[20:25] <Kihokki> My fingers are crossed, hope this will make x work.
[20:25] <guntbert> Alpha-Omega: I have no experience with webcams, I only wanted to send you something to strat with :)
[20:25] <guntbert> shanecowherd: and why do you want to do that?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> adam__: if you hold SHIFT at boot, do you see the windows option?
[20:25] <shanecowherd> I have a bash script that SSH into a server and runs the command rm -rf file.txt
[20:26] <ki4ro_> Any idea on how to get icedtea working in chrome?
[20:26] <adam__> i see it without pushing anything, but when i select windows 7, it goes to a black screen for a moment and then back to the boot loader
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> shanecowherd: why use force?
[20:26] <shanecowherd> guntbert: but I have to run it as sudo
[20:26] <trijntje> I want to reinstall my system and restore all data and config from my home folder. Are there any files I should exclude that would cause problems when taken to another install?
[20:26] <marcappuccino> Iced tea has compatibility issues in chrome your better off installing the oracle version
[20:26] <shanecowherd> ActionParsnip: actually i'm reloading nginx, but I wanted to keep the example simple
[20:26] <ki4ro_> marcappuccino: Oracle version?
[20:27] <shanecowherd> ActionParsnip: I need to reload nginx from a bash script on my local machine
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: should be okay,just copy all the applicaion hidden folders but leave the gnome ones
[20:27] <marcappuccino> yes
[20:27] <ki4ro_> marcappuccino: Oracle version of what?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> shanecowherd: but why use force in the rm command?
[20:27] <marcappuccino> of java hang on i am getting the liink
[20:27] <ki4ro_> marcappuccino: Many thanks
[20:27] <shanecowherd> ActionParsnip: it was just an example
[20:28] <Alpha-Omega> guntbert: funny, I had to run sudo to access the cam, that means I'm not in the group right?
[20:28] <wizAmit> hi all
[20:28] <marcappuccino> sorry internet is slow
[20:28] <ki4ro_> marcappuccino: np
[20:29] <dr_willis> !Java
[20:29] <guntbert> shanecowherd: yes, try sudo rm .....
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: so cheese ran with gksudo woks ok?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> *works
[20:30] <marcappuccino> first remove openjdk and iced tea from the software center then follow these instructions http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:30] <wizAmit> i want to install glade-3 on ubuntu, can anyone plz xplain it to me...
[20:30] <powerplay> hey everyone, ive been trying to enable colors in my terminal buck cant
[20:30] <adam__> ActionPartnership:  i see windows 7 as an option without pushing anything, but when i select windows 7, it goes to a black screen for a moment and then back to the boot loader
[20:30] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, what would a sudo apt-get purge updates do?
[20:30] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: well I did sudo cheese, it works, but it's very, very dark, almost nothing can be see, I did sudo with vlc and it works fine, but neiter works without sudo
[20:30] <powerplay> any help is appreciated, i already tried changing things in .bashrc file but no luck, any suggestions?
[20:30] <dr_willis> powerplay: enable how exactly
[20:30] <ki4ro_> marcappuccino: Thanks!
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: not seen that command, don't think it'll work
[20:30] <marcappuccino> @alpha try running gksudo instead of sudo with applicatons
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: use gksudo for GUI apps
[20:31] <marcappuccino> ki4ro :)
[20:31] <powerplay> dr_willis: so that when i do the "ls" command I want my directories to be in blue, other files to be red etc
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: what is the make and model of the system?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: that's default in ubuntu
[20:31] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: Thinkpad T400
[20:31] <guntbert> !tab | marcappuccino
[20:31] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: thanks! I think I'll also leave ICEauthority out
[20:31] <dr_willis> powerplay: that'd be an alias.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: try running:  source ~/.bashrc
[20:32] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: that wierd because right now everything is listen in same white color as of now
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: try the command I gave
[20:32] <dr_willis> Alias ls=ls --color
[20:32] <dr_willis> Lower case a  ;-)
[20:32] <adam__> im going to try booting windows 7 again, i'll be back if it doesn't work
[20:33] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: presice
[20:33] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: wow it worked! many thanks, could u give me more details on what the command does
[20:33] <Alpha-Omega> precise*
[20:33] <marcappuccino> 32 or 64 bit - Alpha-omega?
[20:33] <powerplay> dr_willis: got it working many thanks
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: it runs the commands that configure the shell properly, you don't have a ~/.profile file
[20:33] <EnderTheThird> I got my 2560x1440 monitor working as described here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=67d2dbdf3fb9053b052eb7b1bfc1c817&p=12161201#post12161201) but now my mouse indicator arrow seems to be for the wrong resolution.  It looks stretched like 1920x1080 stretched on the monitor, but the aspect ratio is normal when hovering over a window edge to a different indicator/icon.  Any ideas what might cause this?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: run:  sudo cp /root/.profile $HOME; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile       and it will be fine
[20:34] <EnderTheThird> xorg.conf:   http://pastebin.com/THPZ5GsP
[20:34] <marcappuccino> EnterTheThird do a fresh install and back up everything
[20:34] <wizAmit> can anyone plz tell me how to install glade-3 and dependencies in ubuntu through terminal
[20:34] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: awseome, and what do i do if i want to change up the colors?
[20:35] <Kihokki> ActionParsnip, Unable to boot still. Problem is with x which says that monitors are not detected.
[20:35] <dr_willis> !find glade
[20:35] <marcappuccino> when istalling 'quickly', does that not ship with glade-3?
[20:35] <EnderTheThird> marcappucino:  This is a fresh install.  My only change is to xorg.conf because Ubuntu wouldn't boot without it (doesn't get the correct EDID info from my monitor, apparently).
[20:35] <marcappuccino> sudo apt-get build-dep glade
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: not sure of the actual colour change but the default bash ones are used
[20:36] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: alright thanks a lot for your help again!!!
[20:36] <marcappuccino> Enterthethird - does your monitor have any other conections - dvi, hdmi?
[20:36] <EnderTheThird> marcappuccino:  Just DVI.  It's a cheap one from Korea  :-)
[20:36] <adam__> okay, didn't work, same thing happened. i bot up, windows 7 is an option, i select windows 7, it goes to a black screen for a moment, and then back to the boot loader
[20:36] <wizAmit> thanks all
[20:37] <wizAmit> now, how to compile binaries in ubuntu, and what actually r they??
[20:37] <powerplay> ls
[20:37] <marcappuccino> lol did you try fidling with the xrandr command
[20:38] <marcappuccino> enterthethird
[20:38] <praetorian`> hey all
[20:38] <Owner> HI
[20:38] <EnderTheThird> marcappuccino: not very familiar with using that.  I got the xorg.conf from a forum post someone made about getting it to work
[20:39] <EnderTheThird> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=67d2dbdf3fb9053b052eb7b1bfc1c817&p=12161201#post12161201
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: try:    sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[20:39] <marcappuccino> xrandr --help
[20:39] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: ok, did it
[20:40] <marcappuccino> look at a tutorial i cant recite the commands but you must use the cvt command somewhere... sorry
[20:40] <praetorian`> i have some kind of problem here i think. i have installed windows 7 on my notebook -500gb hdd. i deleted all partitions, created a 150gb partition and installed win7 to it so nowi have 350gb unused space. now i want to install ubuntu and it detects that i have win 7 installed, but it only gives me option to overwrite win7 or to do "something other" but there is no option to install it beside windows 7
[20:40] <Kihokki> What can I do? Xorg server says: Fatal error, no screens found and linux boots into terminal
[20:41] <EnderTheThird> marcappuccino: I'm looking at it, but I'm not really sure what to change.   Everything else displays fine except for the default mouse arrow
[20:42] <K350> Is there any widget/app that shows CPU usage - as a peek - on the desktop (not the panel) ?
[20:42] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: why'd I modprobe though?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: its te driver for the device, is cheese any better?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> K350: conky
[20:43] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: nope, it's the same
[20:43] <marcappuccino> enterthethird https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions thhis might help after a fresh install
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: are there any busreported?
[20:44] <trond-> Kihokki, clean install or upgrade?
[20:45] <johan_1337> are backtrack 5 for hacking windows or linux or both?
[20:45] <guntbert> !backtrack | johan_1337
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> johan_1337: backtrack is offtopic here
[20:45] <johan_1337> oki
[20:46] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: any bugs, i dont thinks
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Alpha-Omega: i suggest you report one if there isn't one
[20:46] <EnderTheThird> marcappuccino: Thanks.  I'll fart around with it for a bit to see if I can get it going.  :-)
[20:46] <Alpha-Omega> ActionParsnip: I mean it works in vlc but I need to start as root, dont I need to add myself to a group or something to run without root?
[20:47] <Guest22379> hi
[20:47] <Guest22379> I need Information of this site
[20:47] <johan_1337>  can i find anti-virus for linux system?
[20:48] <guntbert> Guest22379: this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:48] <guntbert> !av | johan_1337
[20:48] <Guest22379> avast for linux O.p
[20:48] <marcappuccino> johan you likely wont need it unless you install java wich is still unlikely you will ned it
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest22379: sure, why not
[20:49] <designbybeck> VMWare isn't VirutalBox is it?
[20:49] <marcappuccino> no its not
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: no, they do similar functions but are not the same
[20:50] <designbybeck> so if i downloaded a .zip file with a bunch of .vmdk stuff in them, they will not work in VIrtualBox?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: i'd ask in #vbox
[20:50] <designbybeck> This was for some contest I'm helping out with and I think they wanted you to run it in windows on Vmware
[20:50] <marcappuccino> it is compatible with virtual box yes
[20:50] <designbybeck> but I use Ubuntu and VirtualBox
[20:50] <wizAmit> i did install build-dep glade-3 now where to go
[20:50] <designbybeck> ok.. Thank you ActionParsnip and marcappuccino
[20:51] <marcappuccino> You can still use vmdk but there is also VMWare player for linux
[20:51] <designbybeck> Teaching High School kids Cyber Hacking!
[20:51] <designbybeck> ah yes I think i did see that marcappuccino
[20:51] <wizAmit> how to run glade-3
[20:51] <designbybeck> they told me they thought it was Ubuntu Linux, but looks like these are Feora Core images
[20:51] <designbybeck> http://www.highschoolcdc.com/html/training.html
[20:51] <marcappuccino> cyber hacking in the curriculum or extracorricular?
[20:52] <Alpha-Omega> so how do I access my cam without sudo?
[20:52] <designbybeck> ^^ marcappuccino
[20:52] <roothorick> well, my wireless card doesn't come up correctly by itself. I can fix it with a little command-line magic, but then networkmanager won't touch it. How do I kick NM back into gear?
[20:52] <marcappuccino> extracurricular then
[20:53] <designbybeck> yes
[20:53] <wizAmit> how to run glade-3
[20:53] <K350> ActionParsnip: I was just mplayihgn around with it. But I've no idea how to just make a nice cpu peak. I dont' want the text stuff.
[20:53] <marcappuccino> does the quickly package not include glade-3
[20:53] <marcappuccino> ?
[20:54] <wizAmit> i cannot say..
[20:54] <wizAmit> how do i say abt that..
[20:54] <marcappuccino> try sudo apt-get build-dep quickly -s
[20:55] <marcappuccino> is -s stimulation?
[20:55] <mschulz> hello. I've found out that in 64-bit 12.04 LTS the libsvn-perl depends on perl5.10, while 5.14.2 is installed
[20:55] <wizAmit> yeah did that without quickly -s, i used glade-3
[20:55] <mschulz> because of that git-svn is not working in ubuntu 12.04 lts 64-bit
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> K350: conky can shows a nice graph
[20:56] <marcappuccino> so can you not sudo apt-get install glade?
[20:56] <wizAmit> did build-dep quickly -s also
[20:56] <marcappuccino> so can you not sudo apt-get install glade?
[20:57] <marcappuccino> *install*
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> marcappuccino  it's glade-gtk2
[20:57] <wizAmit> says 1 newly installed and 1 not upgraded, some python installation and config files
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> !who
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> !info glade-gtk2
[20:58] <trism> MonkeyDust: glade is gtk3, glade-gtk2 is gtk2
[20:58] <marcappuccino> so glade-gtk2 is glade-3 and so is glade
[20:59] <marcappuccino> unless these are from quantal
[20:59] <mappum> Is there a way to disable the cursor screen edge stickiness? (it sticks when movign the cursor from one monitor to another)
[20:59] <wizAmit> yes, i get it now
[20:59] <wizAmit> appreciate ur help, thanks, installing....
[20:59] <marcappuccino> :)
[20:59] <trism> mappum: it is in the System Settings/Display options, or on the experimental tab of the unity plugin in ccsm
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> mappum: you can disable it in ccsm
[21:00] <mappum> do you know what it's called in ccsm?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> mappum: sticksomething
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> sticky
[21:02] <trism> mappum: launcher edge stop overcome pressure I think, the options in that general area
[21:02] <mappum> got it, thanks
[21:02] <epaphus> Anybody know of a GUI out there to manage a SMTP and IMAP server? (for account maintenance)
[21:02] <wizAmit> !marc can u plz help me out with irc, using it 4 d first time
[21:02] <Vert> Is it possible to restart just the mouse services and not the whole X server?
[21:03] <marcappuccino> Why is he called ubottu?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> mappum  it's not a compiz thing, the cursor is sticky in ubuntu classic, too
[21:03] <marcappuccino> oooooh!!
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: she
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> marcappuccino  because she is a (ro)bot
[21:04] <wizAmit> :)
[21:04] <guntbert> !gender | marcappuccino
[21:04] <marcappuccino> yes - she? Or the creator is a she
[21:04] <wizAmit> :) :) :P
[21:04] <jackarg33> hello
[21:05] <marcappuccino> hello
[21:05] <guntbert> Hi jackarg33 Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:05] <Kihokki> marcappuccino, Have not you heard that people call their cars for example as her? :p
[21:05] <jackarg33> kinda
[21:05] <marcappuccino> thats because they are pretty :D
[21:05] <jackarg33> i have a big question
[21:05] <wizAmit> yoooo hooooooooo guys glade ran. thanks to all.
[21:05] <wizAmit> now i'm good to go
[21:05] <marcappuccino> yay
[21:06] <ClientAlive> I got serious sound -> sooo appreciate the help -> Red Hot Chili Peppers fillin' the room...
[21:06] <ClientAlive> :)
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  wrong channel
[21:06] <marcappuccino> jackarg what is your question
[21:06] <marcappuccino> ?
[21:06] <jackarg33> anyone who wants to help me on distro-making, or who has any information in distro-making join here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1&channels=jacquesmartin&uio=d4
[21:07] <marcappuccino> That might kind of be off topic
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> jackarg33  wrong channel
[21:07] <ClientAlive> u guy's helped me get sound working... that's all
[21:07] <jackarg33> why?
[21:07] <ClientAlive> peace out y'all
[21:08] <marcappuccino> We dont do general linux but only ubuntu related
[21:08] <jackarg33> MonkeyDust why is it the wrong channel
[21:08] <jackarg33> oh
[21:08] <guntbert> jackarg33: this channel is strictly for ubuntu support
[21:08] <jackarg33> ahh
[21:08] <marcappuccino> :)
[21:08] <jackarg33> ok thhanks
[21:08] <liole> Wanted to ask: is it possible to change color or font of calendar in panel?
[21:09] <volvagiatumescen> I'm using k3b and it's having a problem burning my mp3 files to my cd... what am i missing?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> volvagiatumescen: What problem are you having exactly?
[21:09] <loganrun> how do I configure samba to start at boot, or is this the default
[21:10] <volvagiatumescen> it's telling me problems while adding files to the project, details insufficient permissions to read the following files
[21:10] <Kihokki> I'm making an emergency backup from my system so it would be nice to know if file permissions are copied in addition?
[21:11] <loganrun> does anyone have any idea how to set daemons to run on boot on Ubuntu, I used chkconfig smbd on  for Fedora
[21:11] <auronandace> !upstart | loganrun
[21:12] <marcappuccino> !python
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> volvagiatumescen: do you have libk3b6-extracodecs installed?
[21:12] <marcappuccino> can ubottu give me any ubuntu defenition?
[21:12] <marcappuccino> !unity
[21:12] <marcappuccino> oh cool
[21:13] <guntbert> !askthebot | marcappuccino
[21:13] <marcappuccino> ok sorry :)
[21:14] <Vert> Anyone? Can I reload my mouse without restarting X? My mosue has frozen on a closed hand icon and I can't click or scroll (but I can move it)
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Vert: try unloading psmouse and reload it
[21:14] <marcappuccino> try ctrl + alt + backspace
[21:14] <marcappuccino> oh wait
[21:14] <volvagiatumescen> ActionParsnip, checking
[21:14] <marcappuccino>  dont do that
[21:14] <loganrun> auronandace, it just says that upstart is event driven replacement, but says nothing about how to do what I am asking
[21:15] <volvagiatumescen> thanks ActionParsnip
[21:15] <Vert> ActionParsnip: running `sudo modprobe -r psmouse` or `sudo rmmod psmouse` followed by reloading have no effect, and the mouse is the same even when I havent reloaded the module.
[21:15] <jrib> loganrun: pretty sure samba starts at boot
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Vert: use modprobe, it sorts of module deps
[21:16] <loganrun> jrib: hopefully, I just installed it and it didn't look like it was running, but perhaps it will at boot
[21:17] <marcappuccino> !modprobe
[21:17] <Vert> ActionParsnip: How do you mean?
[21:17] <marcappuccino> can anyone give me a defenition of the modprobe command
[21:17] <jrib> loganrun: hmm
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Vert: if other modules depend on others, modprobe sorts it out rmmod doesn't do stuff like that
[21:18] <marcappuccino> ? ^^^^
[21:18] <Vert> Well, modprobe -r psmouse doesn't help ether?
[21:18] <jrib> loganrun: it should probably start right after you install it too (assuming you used the repositories).  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[21:19] <loganrun> there must be a tool to manage what daemons start at boot though
[21:19] <marcappuccino> startup applications?
[21:20] <marcappuccino> can anyone give me a defenition of the modprobe command?
[21:20] <daninoz> hi, i'm using gnome shell and i want to move the notification area to the top bar, how can I do that ?
[21:20] <jrib> loganrun: not upstart ones; you must edit /etc/init/.  For the older sysv-rc style scripts you can sysv-rc-conf
[21:21] <jrib> marcappuccino: whatis modprobe   in your shell
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: try:  man modprobe
[21:21] <marcappuccino> you can replace the default notifications daemon with ubuntu's  notify-osd somehow -google it (limi
[21:21] <marcappuccino> sorry i am running android
[21:22] <marcappuccino> i dont have access to a terminal
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: http://man.cx/modprobe
[21:22] <Newb101> Is there a way of seeing numerical values of systems speeds CPU usage, Memory and download speads on ubuntu 12.04 in the gui? It existed in settings 10.04
[21:22] <marcappuccino> thanks
[21:22] <Vert> ActionParsnip: Any other ideas? If not I'll have to restart X I guess...
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Vert: thats all I got
[21:23] <Vert> =/ Oh well. THanks for the help though.
[21:23] <Vert> Do you know what controls the mouse in KDE? I could try restarting that...
[21:24] <praetorian`> hm think i kinda messed
[21:24] <trism> daninoz: maybe something like: https://github.com/brianhsu/EvilStatusIconForever though it looks like it requires some manually editing to the extension.js file to add the icon names you want
[21:24] <praetorian`> booting my laptop grub cant find boot partition
[21:24] <praetorian`> now have grub rescue commandline
[21:24] <shanecowherd> I have a folder "A" and a symlink to that folder "ShortCutToA".  How can I delete the folder "A" using the symlink?
[21:24] <Newb101> Im running ubuntu 12.04 in a virtual box, the download speeds are so slow but not in my native windows?
[21:25] <praetorian`> how can i locate my boot partition there ?
[21:26] <praetorian`> ls only brings up (hd0) (hd0,msdos6) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[21:26] <Newb101> anyone?
[21:26] <marcappuccino> which question shall we answer?
[21:26] <marcappuccino> newb101
[21:26] <Newb101>  Im running ubuntu 12.04 in a virtual box, the download speeds are so slow but not in my native windows?
[21:26] <jrib> shanecowherd: look into readlink I suppose
[21:27] <shanecowherd> thanks
[21:27] <marcappuccino> I'm not sure - have you installed guest additions? Newb101
[21:27] <powerplay> hey everyone i am trying to figure out how colors work in terminakl and cant get it figured out
[21:28] <Newb101> its got something to with network settings
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: have you asked in #vbox too
[21:28] <marcappuccino> Have you installed guest additions?
[21:28] <powerplay> in my bashrc file there is an "alias ls='ls --color=autto' which means that when i do "ls" the directories should be in blue
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: maybe its a known issue
[21:28] <powerplay> but when i do "ls" the lisings are not color coded, but when i run "ls" as sudo then they are color coded
[21:28] <Newb101> ActionParsnip, Good point, mrcapacciono yes
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: what if you run:  source ~/.bashrc
[21:29] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: ya but i have to run that everytime i open up the terminal
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: then run:  sudo cd /root/.profile $HOME; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile
[21:30] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: im just trying to figure out whats going on under the hood
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: and it will run in each terminal automagically
[21:30] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: does that command create a new profile?
[21:30] <scotsman> hello?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: just the file ~/.profile
[21:30] <marcappuccino> hello!
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> scotsman: hello
[21:31] <powerplay> ActionParsnip: I see so what happens under the hood after executing that command, is the terminal condigured to read from bashrc everytime i open it?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> powerplay: yes, the .profile file makes it happens, sounds like yours is different
[21:32] <TheLordOfTime> what package(s) provide collections of CA root certificates?
[21:32] <designbybeck> Anyone ever use BlackBuntu!?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !info ca-certificates
[21:32] <marcappuccino> No
[21:32] <designbybeck> and ActionParsnip and marcappuccino I got the VBox working just fine thanks!
[21:32] <marcappuccino> :)
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: blackbuntu isn't supported here
[21:33] <marcappuccino> !blackbuntu
[21:33] <designbybeck> K
[21:33] <designbybeck> was just asking since it was based on Ubuntu
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: yes, the ubuntu based distros aren't supported here
[21:35] <designbybeck> ;)
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: only releases by canonical are supoprted here
[21:35] <marcappuccino> what about xubuntu or lubuntu?
[21:35] <designbybeck> well something else that isn't supported here is my hotwater heater I have to go wait on the repair guy for! Later guys!
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> marcappuccino: they are canonical releases so are supported here, they also have their own channels too
[21:35] <marcappuccino> oh ok
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: similarly, ubuntu is based in debian, but if you ask for support for ubuntu there, you will be pointed here
[21:36] <designbybeck> gotcha
[21:36] <adam_> okay, im back, and i still can't boot windows from the grub bot loader
[21:36] <adam_> boot*
[21:37] <marcappuccino> lol #xubuntu is so dead
[21:38] <adam_> can anyone help me?
[21:38] <oskar-> is not xubuntu just ubuntu with another set of packages installed by default?
[21:39] <gordonjcp> oskar-: pretty much
[21:39] <t3d3um> yes it mainly is. You can even mix the flavors on one system
[21:39] <marcappuccino> yes - primarily the xfce desktop (configured)
[21:39] <marcappuccino> adam what is your problem
[21:39] <gordonjcp> adam_: look up chain loading
[21:39] <t3d3um> you can first install ubuntu, then install the xubuntu-packages without any problem
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> or just install xfce4  for the minimal xfce session
[21:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | adam_
[21:40] <Hereisanotherlie> after adding my subdomain info to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled I ran "sudo a2ensite subdomain.example.com" and I am getting "ERROR: Site subdomain.example.com does not exist!"
[21:40] <Hereisanotherlie> I think I might be skipping a step or two along the way I just can't figure out what that might be
[21:40] <oskar-> Hereisanotherlie:  add it to the sites-available directory. then a2ensite creates the symlink in sites-enabled
[21:41] <Guest78819> Hi, someone knows how to boot SAMSUNG 530U from a usb?
[21:41] <marcappuccino> Unetbootin. Or if you mean to boot the installation just install straight to the usb
[21:41] <Hereisanotherlie> oskar-: do I add it to sites-available/default ?
[21:42] <Jordan_U> adam_: The RESULTS.txt from boot info script would be very helpful in diagnosing your problem.
[21:42] <marcappuccino> or use the dd command. dd if = path/to/iso of = dev/(drive)
[21:42] <Hereisanotherlie> oskar-: oh I actually did add it there already, I was working on this last night and forgot about that
[21:43] <oskar-> Hereisanotherlie:  add the definitions of a apache virtual host to a new file in /etc/apache2/sites-available, e.g. filename "mysite". then "a2ensite mysite" create a symlink sites-enabled/mysite pointing to ../sites-available/mysite
[21:44] <oskar-> Hereisanotherlie: if that does not help, what do "apache2ctl configtest" and your logs tell?
[21:45] <z_> hi everyone. ubuntu beginner, im in the process of building the android build enviornment but my folders are all being blocked, im getting permission denied, tried changing permissions, tried nautilus but nothing.
[21:45] <marcappuccino> gksudo nautilus
[21:45] <daninoz> trism, thanks, that work great
[21:45] <marcappuccino> z_ ^^
[21:46] <z_> ive tried gksudo nautilus it extracts and views with all perms in that but in the regular browser shows an X or Lock image
[21:47] <z_> ive tried sudo chmod +rwx /home
[21:47] <marcappuccino> is this in your home folder or /
[21:47] <z_> well the entire /home directory
[21:47] <marcappuccino> did you set up encryption on the ubuntu installation?
[21:47] <z_> dont believe so
[21:48] <z_> android-sdk-linux is locked, add-ons platforms and tools are all locked dirs
[21:48] <z_> its located in /home
[21:49] <marcappuccino> did this happen after you installed this android sdk
[21:49] <sss_>  /ignore #ubuntu CRAP NOTICES SNOTES CTCPS JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES WALLOPS NICKS DCC DCCMSGS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS HILIGHTS
[21:49] <z_> havent installed it yet.
[21:49] <marcappuccino> when did this lockup happen?
[21:49] <oskar-> (and is it maybe normal?)
[21:50] <z_> it happened when i used the terminal window to move android-sdk-linux into the /home/ dir
[21:50] <gordonjcp> z_: don't do that, it doesn't make sense
[21:50] <z_> then i used nautilus to extract it there
[21:51] <marcappuccino> what is the commands that you used go to the terminal and press the up arrow to see history
[21:51] <gordonjcp> it should be in /home/<whateveryourusernameis
[21:51] <marcappuccino> ^ +1
[21:52] <oskar-> z : as a normal user you do not have permission to move something to /home. that folder is "locked" intentionally, belonging to the superuser (root)
[21:52] <shanecowherd> How can you delete a file that a symlink points to?
[21:52] <jrib> shanecowherd: umm, did you see what I said earlier?
[21:52] <adam_> i can't figure out how to get boot info script to work
[21:53] <shanecowherd> jrib: readlink
[21:53] <z_> i used sudo mv android-sdk_r20.0.3-linux.tgz /home/
[21:53] <jrib> shanecowherd: and?
[21:53] <shanecowherd> jrib: I can get the file name with read link, how can I pipe that to rm?
[21:53] <jrib> shanecowherd: why do you want to do this anyway?
[21:53] <meio> 2 questions: First I want to use but it says an error message that wine isn't owned by me, Second: I want to find a macro program except xmacros and autokey that runs on ubuntu and that is capable of recording with a gui or via command line but that records delay of the inputs I have done,
[21:53] <jrib> shanecowherd: $()
[21:54] <shanecowherd> jrib: I make a backup of a folder every day and I symlink the most recent one to "current"
[21:54] <oskar-> shanecowherd:  rm $( readlink ${mylink} )
[21:54] <subcool> ok.. can somone help me- i i have network manager, and its not supported anymore. im to use what?
[21:54] <subcool> i have KDE
[21:54] <marcappuccino> so if you just move it to *your* home folder then it should work, no? /home/(yourusrname)
[21:54] <shanecowherd> oskar: thanks, I'll try that
[21:55] <oskar-> shanecowherd:  know, what you are doing, because that command deletes ;)
[21:55] <z_> is there a cmd to set the entire system to as superuser or root user so i dont have to worry about locked files etc
[21:55] <marcappuccino> or actually after a fresh install because your home folder appears to be locked up (corruption etc.)
[21:55] <jrib> z_: that makes little sense
[21:55] <oskar-> z : that would be not a supported usage...
[21:55] <user> z_: yes. there is. and it would be a stupid idea to use it
[21:56] <marcappuccino> not a good idea
[21:56] <adam_> gah, i downloaded boot info script and followed the instructions on how to start it, but when i put sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh into my terminal it just says no such file or directory
[21:56] <shanecowherd> oskar: Thanks, it worked
[21:57] <jtannenbaum> if my ddrescue got interrupted, can I just restart it with "ddrescue -i XMB -o XMB where X is where I was in MB?
[21:57] <marcappuccino> what is the file name adam_ does it  include spaces?
[21:57] <oskar-> adam_:  i am not sure, when the "~" is resolved in a command like "sudo [...] ~ "
[21:57] <xwalk> I just distro hopped from Fedora 17 and preserved the home partition with my 12.04 installation. I'm getting a message at boot stating "error: file '/boot/grub2/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found." Does anyone know how I can rescue my system from this error?
[21:58] <marcappuccino> if ao use a backslash before the spaces i think /home/me/my\ file name.conf
[21:58] <marcappuccino> *if so
[21:58] <oskar-> adam_:  you should try an invariant absolute path
[21:58] <marcappuccino> or just rename the file so there is no spaces
[21:58] <adam_> the file name is bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
[21:59] <sw> adam_: '$ sudo bash /home/adam_/Desktop/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz'
[21:59] <adam_> ii have no idea what that is oskar
[21:59] <adam_> thanks
[21:59] <marcappuccino> so why would you type boot_info_scrips?
[21:59] <sw> adam_: assuming 'adam_' is your home directory
[21:59] <adam_> i dont know
[22:00] <graingert> $ sudo bash ~Desktop/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
[22:00] <graingert> $ sudo bash ~/Desktop/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
[22:00] <graingert> even
[22:00] <marcappuccino> :). Solved?
[22:00] <maslen> I'm getting an error when trying to access a samba share from windows: "Windows cannot access ... You do not have permission to access ..." Except my other samba share works perfectly.
[22:00] <z_> ./home$ sudo chmod +rwx android-sdk_r20.0.3-linux.tgz
[22:00] <bekks> graingert: a tarball isnt executable.
[22:00] <z_> will that work/
[22:00] <jrib> z_: you shouldn't need sudo and you shouldn't need to chmod it...
[22:01] <adam_> command not found
[22:01] <graingert> sw said it was "<sw> adam_: '$ sudo bash /home/adam_/Desktop/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz'"
[22:01] <z_> nothing is working though :(
[22:01] <maslen> z_: A .tar is like a zip file. You can unzip it with tar -xf
[22:01] <marcappuccino> jrib do you know his original question?
[22:01] <jrib> marcappuccino: no
[22:01] <sw> adam_: '$ tar -zxvf ~/Desktop/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz'
[22:01] <maslen> jrib: I forgot where, but I did see something about creating executable zips in the past..
[22:01] <z_> what does teh ~ represent?
[22:02] <marcappuccino> he saved a file to /home not /home/me and now his permissions are locked up jrib
[22:02] <zykotick9> z_: ~ = your home directory
[22:02] <sw> z_: ~/ is home
[22:02] <maslen> z_: Your home directory. Usually /home/<username>/
[22:02] <jrib> marcappuccino: he can probably read the file
[22:02] <marcappuccino> yes but his home folder is locked up i beleive
[22:03] <z_> i probably did something like chmod 777 /home
[22:03] <jrib> brilliant
[22:03] <z_> lol
[22:03] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[22:03] <marcappuccino> Sorry... Must go!
[22:05] <Cong> when I tap on the bottom right side of my touchpad a right-click is simulated. is it possible to disable or move it?
[22:07] <adam_> okay im trying to run ~/desktop/bootinfoscript.sh from terminal
[22:08] <adam_> but it's just saying that the file doesn't exist
[22:08] <Cong> ./Desktop/bootinfoscript.sh
[22:08] <Cong> it doesn't exist
[22:08] <Cong> bash or the filesystem is case-sensitive
[22:09] <daemon> hey all I am trying to autoamte a install of the dns daemon pdnsd
[22:09] <daemon> however it pops up a menu saying resolv... etc.. etc.. manual
[22:09] <daemon> I want to select manual is there anything I can pass with apt-get install to tell it to auto select it
[22:10] <oskar-> daemon:  there is an option to choose the selection frontend... somewhere. used it once for fai
[22:12] <ImperialDroid> how do I center my mirrored display?
[22:13] <z_> is there a way to perform system restore on ubuntu10.04
[22:13] <z_> i think i screwed it up
[22:13] <z_> everything is locked
[22:13] <adam_> okay, here is a pastebin of my results.txt: http://pastebin.com/S5hD3JUg
[22:13] <adam_> the problem im having is booting windows from the grub boot loader
[22:14] <eangel> is there someone??
[22:15] <gordonjcp> !ask | eangel
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> anyone here know what packages provide CA root certs for authentication purposes?  is it ca-certificates?
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> s/for authentication purposes//
[22:15] <ImperialDroid> How do I get out of full screen mode in an application?
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> ImperialDroid:  depends on the application and what you mean by "full screen mode"
[22:16] <Emil_> ImperialDroid: f11
[22:16] <Cong> move the mouse around and look for exit full screen
[22:16] <ImperialDroid> Emil_, thank you
[22:18] <oskar-> adam_:  for me it looks as if you accidently installed grub into the boot sector of windows partition "sda2", instead of into the mbr
[22:18] <suq> hello I am a windows user and I heard about this unix computer from a friend and I was just wondering how do I buy a unix computer I checked at wal mart and the lady had not heard of it, is this a joke
[22:18] <adam_> how do i fix it?
[22:19] <Mailman> I'm having difficulty installing 12.04.1 on my Acer Aspire One 725. The installer completes, then the screen goes black and nothing happens. I tried powering down and booting Ubuntu, but it would only boot to Windows. I just tried reinstalling over the first install and the screen is black again.
[22:19] <ImperialDroid> Why does my screen go off to the side when i hook my computer up to the tv? its not centered properly. How do I change that?
[22:19] <maslen> suq: Unix computers will not be at wal-mart, nor will your average salesman at walmart be familiar with them.
[22:19] <oskar-> adam_:  i would try to repair windows boot from the windows cd, then make ubuntu bootable again from a ubuntu usb stick with the usual howto
[22:19] <oskar-> !grub > adam_
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Mailman: what video chip?
[22:19] <suq> is this some kind of masonic computer because I believe in the lord jesus
[22:19] <||arifaX> ImperialDroid: try to disable "overscan"
[22:20] <||arifaX> ImperialDroid: on your tv
[22:20] <oskar-> adam_:  have you got the ubottu explanations?
[22:20] <bekks> suq: linux is just another operating system - like windows, but different.
[22:20] <adam_> yes
[22:20] <Mailman> ATI Radeon HD 6290
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Mailman: try the boot option: nomodeset
[22:21] <vivid> suq::: if you believe in jesus, then you know he and his father are one in the same.  much as how all computers today derived from the same source
[22:21] <Roland_D> !grub | Roland_D
[22:21] <oskar-> adam_:  i suggest to install grub into the mbr afterwards ("sda")
[22:21] <adam_> i am all kinds of confused
[22:22] <Somelauw> I have tried burning different linux distro's to disk, but ubuntu is the only one that worked for me. When burning other distro's to disk my computer just hangs in the bios. Is there something special about the ubuntu live cd? The version I burned was ubuntu 10.4
[22:22] <oskar-> adam_:  why, what is the problem? ;)
[22:22] <Pelo> evening folks, I'm looking for a software recommendation,  I need a prog that can record video streamed from a usb port,  this is to transfer vids from a camcorder
[22:22] <adam_> i have no idea where to start
[22:23] <Cong> !grub >adam_
[22:23] <Mailman> How do I do that?
[22:23] <Mailman> I'm completely new to Linux.
[22:24] <bsmith093> 3ghz w/ 500mb of ram runnign jaunty should i go to lucid?
[22:24] <oskar-> adam_:  prepare to have a bootable windows cd and a bootable ubuntu cd/usb stick. then make windows bootable again, then reinstall grub as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[22:24] <Cong> !ask >mailman
[22:24] <vivid> Mailman::: depends on which release/version of grub you have
[22:24] <gordonjcp> Pelo: ffmpeg maybe?
[22:24] <adam_> dangit, i dont have my windows CD
[22:24] <Pelo> thanks gordonjcp I think I found something
[22:25] <vivid> Mailman::: there is an alternate installer disk that you should probably try
[22:25] <oskar-> adam_:  then download it from microsoft. windows 7 at least should be available there... (it's a dvd afaik)
[22:25] <vivid> Mailman::: it installs with a text based environment that is designed to not have graphical issues like that
[22:26] <bsmith093> jaunty to lucid, 500m of ram and 3ghz processor, is it worth it?
[22:27] <oskar-> bsmith093:  afaik, there is no path from jaunty to lucid, if not via karmic
[22:29] <opieng> does ubuntu wireless network understand WEP keys? I cant seem to get logged onto to my home network?
[22:30] <vivid> opieng::: yes...
[22:30] <opieng> oh wondering why it wont accept it?
[22:30] <vivid> opieng::: check for proprietary drivers, run 'jockey-gtk'
[22:30] <adam_> oskar
[22:31] <adam_> on http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/downloads/windows-7 is the item i want to download the  Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool ?
[22:31] <Guest48753> Do I need to reboot after alsa has been unloaded? I unload alsa and now want audio back. I can't find a man page for alsa.
[22:31] <opieng> vivid, what did you do? It works now :)
[22:32] <vivid> opieng::: did you install the driver?  not even windows works without drivers :p
[22:32] <Somelauw> I have tried burning different linux distro's to disk, but ubuntu is the only one that worked for me. When burning other distro's to disk my computer just hangs in the bios. Is there something special about the ubuntu live cd? The version I burned was ubuntu 10.4
[22:32] <opieng> does seem any need to now, the internet is working on it now
[22:32] <Emil_> How hard will it be to upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10?
[22:33] <bekks> Somelauw: You dont burn a distro to disk, but install it instead.
[22:33] <jrib> Emil_: update-manager will prompt you if you want to upgrade when it's released and you press yes
[22:33] <Jordan_U> adam_: You can fix Windows' boot sector from within Ubuntu. No need for a separate CD.
[22:34] <Somelauw> bekks, how about burning the iso?
[22:34] <vivid> adam_::: what are you trying to accomplish? im positive that download still requires that you own a copy of windows
[22:34] <||arifaX> Somelauw: maybe you have a broken RAM stick?
[22:34] <Emil_> jrib: And they say windows is simple xD
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> Emil_  and 'hard' depends on what you're used to
[22:34] <bassgoon> so if I have 12.04 on a usb drive with a 4gb persistent partition, can I install updates normally on that? or are there some I'll never be able to update?
[22:34] <adam_> im just trying to repair my windows boot sector
[22:34] <adam_> and i have no idea how
[22:34] <bekks> Somelauw: Then you burn the iso to a cd or dvd, but not to a (hard)disk.
[22:34] <Guest48753> Emil_: At the moment 12.10 is considered as in development and you need to take some hurdles to upgrade. Once it has been officially released it is only a mouseclick away.
[22:34] <Jordan_U> adam_: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[22:35] <Guest48753> jrib:
[22:35] <Guest48753> jrib: Sorry, you were first. :-)
[22:35] <soman> what I should to use to write native apps for Linux with C/C++ like a WinAPI in Windows?
[22:36] <soman> I mean what libraries or tools etc...
[22:36] <vivid> soman::: vim
[22:36] <Somelauw> bekks, in that case I mean a dvd disk.
[22:36] <soman> vivid: it seems to be a editor, yes?
[22:36] <bekks> Somelauw: Then you have to use dvd iso too.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> soman: Do you plan to make a GUI based app, a terminal based app, a server of some type, or something else?
[22:36] <bekks> Somelauw: Did you do that?
[22:36] <vivid> soman::: libraries depends on what youre trying to write an application to accomplish
[22:37] <soman> Jordan_U: GUI and terminal
[22:37] <Cong> soman, install these g++, gtkmm packages.
[22:37] <vivid> or just build-essential
[22:37] <soman> Cong: it means I should use Gtk+?
[22:37] <vivid> soman::: do you *want* to use gtk?
[22:37] <bekks> gtk+, jeez, no. :)
[22:38] <Somelauw> bekks, what do you mean by dvd iso? I used CDBurnerXP for all the distro's I tried, but it only worked for ubuntu 10.4
[22:38] <oskar-> !info g++
[22:38] <Jordan_U> soman: There are many options, Quickly is an Ubuntu project to make starting out with GUI programming in Ubuntu (along with packaging and other things) as simple as possible: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[22:38] <soman> what a crossdistro native GUI are in Linux?
[22:38] <Guest48753> soman: There are gcc and g++ as compiler, the libs depend on what your target is, cli can normally build right away, iirc. Editor of choice would be vim as vivid said.
[22:38] <zykotick9> bassgoon: (not sure) but i don't think you can "update" a persistant install.  i find full installs to USB more powerful (but they don't offer install to other media, and 4GB is probably too small)
[22:38] <soman> or all is dependence of graphic shell?
[22:38] <bekks> Somelauw: a cd iso will not boot correctly when burned onto a dvd - and vice versa.
[22:39] <jrib> soman: all the toolkits are cross*distro* I'd say...
[22:39] <bassgoon> zykotick9, you mean just install ubuntu on my usb drive
[22:39] <Jordan_U> soman: GTK and QT are the major GUI toolkits, though there are others.
[22:39] <jrib> soman: gtk, qt, wx are probably some of the more popular ones...
[22:39] <zykotick9> bassgoon: well, that would be what I would do.  but 4gb is too small to bother...  YMMV
[22:39] <Guest48753> How can I load alsa driver from cli?
[22:39] <bassgoon> zykotick9, no no, it's a 32gb drive, but I created a 4gb casper partition
[22:39] <bassgoon> casper file I guess
[22:40] <zykotick9> bassgoon: ahhh... gotcha
[22:40] <roothorick> so, question
[22:40] <Somelauw> bekks, there is only a single iso I can download: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&release=lts&bits=64
[22:40] <soman> Jordan_U, jrib and Guest48753 big thanks
[22:40] <roothorick> is wireless SUPPOSED to be disabled by default, i.e. on boot?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> bassgoon: Definitely just go with a normal install then (the same way you would install to an internal drive).
[22:40] <bassgoon> I can keep it fat32?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> soman: You're welcome.
[22:40] <bekks> Somelauw: Then you have to use cd, not a dvd to burn it onto.
[22:40] <Guest48753> roothorick: NO, but you need to enter the key as a user. You can spec if it's for <user> or systemwide.
[22:40] <zykotick9> bassgoon: not with a "real" install no.  FAT isn't posix compliant...
[22:41] <Guest48753> soman: very welcome.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> bassgoon: You can't keep it *only* fat32. You can have Ubuntu on ext4, with an additional Fat32 partition.
[22:41] <bassgoon> Jordan_U, genius :)
[22:41] <bassgoon> and I dont' need swap probably
[22:41] <Somelauw> bekks, I just told you that it worked when I used a dvd.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> adam_: Did you see / understand the link I gave you?
[22:42] <vivid> bassgoon::: you should have a swap anyway....i have 8GB of RAM and my swap contains 43.1 MB of data anyway
[22:42] <bassgoon> vivid, so i'm running ubuntu off a usb flash drive, on a computer where it won't have access to any hdd
[22:42] <adam_> yes
[22:42] <bassgoon> and I need a swap partition?
[22:42] <soman> I'm a newbie to Linux:) One more question: do I need to defragment my ext4 time-to-time as in Win if I often download and delete many files?
[22:42] <adam_> i ran test disk and hopefully this is all fixed
[22:43] <adam_> i also ran sudo update-grub
[22:43] <vivid> bassgoon::: you *should* have a swap partition
[22:43] <adam_> that would have put grub into my linux partition right?
[22:43] <zykotick9> soman: no defrag required for EXT filesystems...  well, not usually anyways.
[22:44] <soman> zykotick9: thanks
[22:44] <vivid> soman::: not needing derag on ext4 is a myth, indeed fragmentation will occur over time
[22:44] <Jordan_U> adam_: No, grub is fine as it is. That link will fix your Windows boot sector.
[22:44] <soman> vivid: ok
[22:44] <vivid> soman::: there is a tool that can defrag single files or the entire filesystem.    'man e4defrag'
[22:45] <adam_> okay, i'll tryrebooting and see if it works
[22:45] <soman> vivid: I run it now in console)) That is good, thank you
[22:46] <Jordan_U> adam_: It helps if you use my nick in your responses, that way they are highlighted in my client and I won't miss them.
[22:46] <itsrachelfish> Is there any way to edit gnome terminal's keyboard shortcuts from a file/the command line?
[22:46] <abimael> is there a board for specific states?
[22:47] <opieng> anyone know the command for downloading Google chorme. I am new to linux/ubuntu and I am determined to learn using the terminal
[22:47] <Guest48753> soman: ext3 and ext4 don't need to be defragmented it is said. Though defrag tools exist. it is not like in windows. :-)
[22:48] <soman> Last Q: Can't build (configuring fails) wxWidgets 2.9.4 in Ubuntu 12.04. What could be a problem? http://paste.kde.org/540686/13461633/ - conf log, http://paste.kde.org/540728/16770213/ terminal out + environment file contents
[22:49] <soman> Guest48753: ok, thanks, I will try it later:)
[22:49] <vivid> soman::: sudo apt-get build-dep <package you want to build>
[22:49] <oskar-> Guest48753, soman: ext3/4 can also have fragmented files. you should keep a reasonable amount of filesystem space free to leave good options to the space allocator algorithm to avoid fragmentation
[22:49] <vivid> soman::: apt-get source <package you want to build>
[22:49] <oskar-> something like 20% free space
[22:49] <vivid> soman::: cd <package directory> && debuild -b
[22:49] <Guest48753> opieng: sudo apt-get install chromium-bsu. see man apt-get.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> soman: You do *not* want to install wxwidgets from source.
[22:51] <soman> vivid: stop stop stop...  As I understand you offer to build *.deb? I didn't compiled it yet...
[22:51] <vivid> soman::: youre on a debian-based system.  so we use debian-based tools to build packages
[22:51] <Guest48753> oskar-: Good point, thanks. Also, imho have / as one partition and /home as another. By default, everything is on /.
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Guest48753: chromium-bsu is a video game...
[22:51] <soman> Jordan_U: I want to compile it => make deb => install deb
[22:51] <vivid> soman::: side-stepping the package manager is a bad idea
[22:51] <Jordan_U> soman: Why?
[22:51] <Guest48753> Jordan_U: flaming hell.
[22:52] <soman> Jordan_U: wanna try 2.9.4
[22:52] <Guest48753> soman: Did you get that...? The package name I gave you is wrong, don't install.
[22:52] <soman> Guest48753: I didn't get anything
[22:52] <vivid> soman::: the steps to do that are what i listed.  'sudo apt-get build-dep <package>' will install the dependencies.  'apt-get source <package>' will download the source code.  'cd <package-dir> && dpkg-buildpackage -b' will build the binary
[22:52] <Guest48753> opieng: Did you get that...? The package name I gave you is wrong, don't install.
[22:53] <Guest48753> soman: Sorry, wrong nickname.
[22:53] <soman> vivid: but how is package named?
[22:53] <Guest48753> Jordan_U: Many thanks for keeping you head up.
[22:54] <vivid> soman::: there are many detailed explanations and tutorials of debian packaging available from debian, ubuntu and others, use google
[22:54] <XDS2010> anyone here speak chinese ?
[22:54] <Guest48753> !cn | XDS2010
[22:54] <XDS2010> is there a chinese ubu channel ?
[22:54] <XDS2010> ty
[22:55] <soman> vivid: sorry for stupid behaviour... But I already have a source... I need to configure it correctly to build a deb from  it later
[22:55] <vivid> soman::: read debian packaging guidelines
[22:55] <vivid> soman::: its too much to explain here, youre going to have to read it
[22:55] <soman> vivid: I know how to build deb with checkinstall but I cannot build sources
[22:56] <Jordan_U> soman: You honestly seem pretty confused at this point. I highly recommend you try app development via Quickly first.
[22:56] <XDS2010> anyone here familiar with 115 ?
[22:56] <soman> Jordan_U: I just lost in solutions :(...
[22:57] <vivid> youre lost because youre trying to take a shortcut
[22:57] <Guest48753> How can I load alsa driver from cli? I've unloaded alsa driver and want to reload them.
[22:57] <vivid> there is NO short way to do a job well... you first need to read the documentation
[22:57] <zykotick9> XDS2010: i only know 114 and 116 myself...
[22:58] <soman> vivid: ok, I will try
[22:58] <Jordan_U> soman: That's why I recommend Quickly. For now at least try ignoring everything else and just follow the quickly tutorial. That should get you out of the sea of alternatives (and you can jump back in later if you decide you really want to, once you're swimming a little better :).
[22:59] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: because developing Ubuntu-Only apps is a great idea...  not.
[22:59] <vivid> ^^
[23:00] <XDS2010> 115.com/file/cl7gzvux i need this file
[23:02] <rangergorder> hi
[23:02] <rangergorder> anyone remember how to switch from Kubuntu 10.04 to regular Ubuntu? (with gedit et al)? I dont need to remove the Kubuntu stuff, as long as the desktop is Gnome.
[23:02] <vivid> rangergorder::: change it at the login screen
[23:02] <bkc_> rangergorder: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:02] <bekks> rangergorder: Just install the package "ubuntu-desktop"
[23:02] <vivid> (provided its installed)
[23:02] <rangergorder> thanks
[23:04] <rangergorder> I was trying gnome-desktop...and google searches never mentioned the specific apt package to use :)
[23:05] <dr_willis> ◔_◔
[23:05] <TheLordOfTime> rangergorder:  ubuntu-desktop will install the Ubuntu Desktop software as well
[23:05] <TheLordOfTime> just an FYI
[23:05] <zykotick9> dr_willis: nice...
[23:05] <TheLordOfTime> not just the GNOME/Unity environment
[23:05] <adam__> hello again
[23:05] <bkc_> TheLordOfTime: that's what he wanted :)
[23:06] <adam__> so i can boot windows now, but now i can't boot linux
[23:06] <dr_willis> adam__,  and what does it do exctly when you try?
[23:07] <private> hey all how are you? need a little assistance here
[23:07] <Guest43153> hey all how are you. i need a little assistance here
[23:07] <gry> just ask
[23:07] <adam__> well, i think i just need to reinstall grub onto my linux partition
[23:07] <dr_willis> state the problem and see....
[23:08] <JessicaW> is there any way to disable the notification of a new release? "New release 'precise' available."
[23:08] <dr_willis> adam__,  theres that boot-repair tool/live cd that i tend to use.
[23:08] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[23:08] <adam__> because when i boot, it goes to the windows boot menu with a "choose your OS" screen, and the only option is windows 7
[23:08] <JessicaW> yup. that's your proble3m
[23:08] <dr_willis> adam__,  you are using a WUBI install of Ubuntu?
[23:08] <JessicaW> *problem
[23:09] <dr_willis> !wubi
[23:09] <Guest43153> i have an intel celeron, i can not boot properly without manually changing the quiet splash to nomode set, with this i have bad graphics. how can i fix this?
[23:09] <adam__> no
[23:09] <adam__> not a wubi installation
[23:09] <dr_willis> Guest43153,  whats your exact video card?
[23:09] <dr_willis> adam__,  you should be seeing a Grub menu befor you see windows then. Guess you should reinstall grub.
[23:09] <bkc_> JessicaW: you can turn them of in Synaptic Settings :)
[23:09] <adam__> i know
[23:10] <Guest43153> how can i check on ubuntu? very new to the OS. thanks
[23:10] <Guest48753> How can I load alsa driver from cli? I've unloaded alsa driver and want to reload them.
[23:10] <JessicaW> bkc_: did that already. still shows up
[23:10] <adam__> how to install grub to my linux partition while im on windows 7?
[23:10] <bkc_> Guest48753: that what?
[23:10] <bkc_> JessicaW: sudo apt-get update
[23:11] <bkc_> Guest48753: find out what driver it is, and then modprobe <driver>
[23:11] <Guest48753> bkc_: I unloaded the alsa driver from cli, now I want to load the modules back without a reboot.
[23:11] <Guest48753> bkc_: Thanks a lot.
[23:11] <multone> hi is there anything a computer science student can do to contribute to ubuntu?
[23:12] <Bosox20051> I need some pro-ubuntu arguments for my teacher. He won't let us use Ubuntu for my operating systems class
[23:12] <Guest43153> dr_willis: how can i check my exact driver on ubuntu
[23:12] <bkc_> multone: use the Testing-Repo and file bug-reports ^^
[23:12] <multone> Bosox20051: why not?
[23:12] <bkc_> Bosox20051: did he say why?
[23:12] <multone> bkc_ anything involving more coding?
[23:12] <zykotick9> Bosox20051: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:12] <dr_willis> Guest43153,  run the 'addational-drivers' tool from the menu (or cli run 'jockey-gtk')  lspci may show what your video card is also.
[23:13] <bkc_> multone: try applying on the website :)
[23:13] <multone> bkc_: I'm looking for something in between. not a full-time job, but rather a project I can contribute to for a class
[23:14] <bkc_> multone: afaik that can be done to... that's how most people contribute to linux anyway :/
[23:14] <JessicaW> bkc_: I'm a tard. That did it. Thanks.
[23:15] <johan_1337> someone know if it takes long time to verify img file when i am coverting it to iso or if the software have frozeen?
[23:15] <Guest48753> bkc_: Quick feedback, I checked 'dmesg | grep snd' to identify the driver and with modprobe it's all back on track. Many thanks.
[23:15] <dr_willis> johan_1337,  whats the img file and how big is  the img file?
[23:15] <zykotick9> johan_1337: converting an img to iso is usually a bad plan
[23:15] <Guest43153> dr_willis: i get no proprietary drivers
[23:15] <JessicaW> here's a harder one. How to make/make install on a debootstrap image?
[23:15] <dr_willis> !debootstrap
[23:15] <johan_1337> it is backtrack and size is 1gig
[23:16] <bkc_> JessicaW: np :)
[23:16] <szal> !backtrack | johan_1337
[23:16] <dr_willis> johan_1337,  this is a hard drive/vm image file?
[23:16] <johan_1337> dont know
[23:16] <johan_1337> my processor is running 100%
[23:17] <dr_willis> time to ask about it in the backtrack channels then i guess.. Not sure why you would even want an img file...
[23:17] <johan_1337> its frozeen or?
[23:17] <bkc_> dr_willis: I'm guessing it was an iso... like he said
[23:17] <dr_willis> johan_1337,  check top output perhaps.. or the file size of the iso and see if its still growing.
[23:17] <JessicaW> dr_willis: thanks doc. I know what it is though. I need to know how to install to the image if I don't have build-essentials installed. If I chroot to it, won't it screw up the current installation?
[23:18] <newtoubuntu> i get no propriatery drivers. now what
[23:18] <dr_willis> JessicaW,  i never use it..
[23:18] <johan_1337> it is veryfying img still
[23:18] <JessicaW> dr_willis: ahhh. okies then.
[23:18] <bkc_> JessicaW: chroot changes your root... so it wont mess with your current installation :)
[23:18] <dr_willis> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot   I figured would have details you need...
[23:19] <JessicaW> bkc_: even if it installs a daemon and starts it?
[23:19] <py> if i turn on ufw will i get disconected from ssh ?
[23:19] <bkc_> JessicaW: yes
[23:19] <JessicaW> bkc_: well awesome! Answers that question. thanks!
[23:19] <bkc_> py: if you block port22 (don't open it) then yes
[23:19] <bkc_> JessicaW: np, ArchLinux is installed that way nowadays :)
[23:20] <py> bkc_: is it possible to check rules
[23:20] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis:  it says no proprietary drivers. now what
[23:20] <py> before enabling it ?
[23:20] <min|dvir|us> Hi. Can someone recommend a GTK git frontend?
[23:20] <Kevin1a> I'm having a problem where my sound stutters badly and occasionally cuts in and out.  It happens in both Windows and Ubuntu.  It happens with the onboard audio, with a soundcard, with an external soundcard, and with my wireless headset (although it's worst with the soundcard).  I don't even know what to check next!
[23:20] <JessicaW> bkc_: I'm setting up 10.04 in a HPC cluster and I need a resource management daemon to run on both the server/head-node and the compute nodes which are loaded via nfs
[23:20] <min|dvir|us> Kevin1a: though it's doubtful it could be your motherboard.
[23:21] <[aViDaN]> hi all
[23:21] <newtoubuntu> hi
[23:21] <JessicaW> hi back
[23:21] <newtoubuntu> can some one help me with my intel driver issues?
[23:21] <[aViDaN]> i want to find a good linux for my 2011 macbook air
[23:21] <enekoos> hello
[23:21] <min|dvir|us> [aViDaN]: distrowatch.com.
[23:21] <[aViDaN]> k
[23:22] <KM0201> Kevin1a: if it's happening with both windows and ubuntu, your motherboard sound and a sound card... i would look at some sort of outside interference (something sitting near the speakers that might be interferring, or the speakers themselves being bad)
[23:22] <bkc_> py: afaik there's no rules before adding them, hence all are blocked... I'd setup the rules before enabling the firewall :)
[23:22] <bsmith093> im going to put lucid on and replace jaunty, how do i backup my entier home dir?
[23:22] <py> aha
[23:22] <bsmith093> hidden stuff included
[23:22] <min|dvir|us> bsmith093: cp -R ~ /path/to/backup. Or use rsync.
[23:22] <bkc_> newtoubuntu: don't ask to ask, just ask and someone might have a look at it
[23:22] <py> bkc_: what does this do: udo ufw default allow udo ufw default deny
[23:22] <enekoos> ubuntu 12:04 not use xorg.conf were I can configure virtual monitor for use 2 monitor
[23:22] <dr_willis> newtoubuntu,  intel dos4ent use propareity drivers.. they should be included.
[23:23] <min|dvir|us> enekoos: it uses xorg.conf but one is not included by default.
[23:23] <bkc_> py: that blocks everything :)
[23:23] <newtoubuntu> bkc_ its kind of hard when you dont get an answer and you try to be polite at the same time
[23:23] <dr_willis> actually no rules = Nothing is blocked....
[23:23] <enekoos> configuration not is other files now?
[23:23] <min|dvir|us> Can someone recommend a GTK git frontend?
[23:23] <py> bkc_: aha ok
[23:23] <bkc_> py: ooh... that's 2 commands actually :/
[23:23] <[aViDaN]> gnome or xfce for macbook air?
[23:23] <py> but if i add after that ufw allow ssh is it good than ?
[23:24] <JessicaW> unity. :D
[23:24] <bkc_> py: sudo ufw default allow <-- all open and swell, sudo ufw default deny <-- all closed behind walls :)
[23:24] <py> aha
[23:24] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis: my issue is a low res and a constant need to replace the quiet splash with nomodeset. I just want to correct the graphic and boot issues so i can enjoy this fine OS :)
[23:24] <py> so i could set ufw default deny
[23:24] <py> and after that
[23:24] <py> ufw allow ssh
[23:24] <py> it will allow ssh right ?
[23:24] <bkc_> py: and after that you have no ssh ^^
[23:24] <dr_willis> newtoubuntu,  if nomodeset works, you can make it the default. Ive never had issues with the intel on my netbooks. so cant really suggest much
[23:25] <JessicaW> bsmith093: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[23:25] <dr_willis> py,  if you have no other services running.. then theres nothing to really listen to the denyed ports. :)
[23:25] <bkc_> py: ufw allow ssh, ufw default deny <-- that will work, in that order (!!)
[23:25] <JessicaW> bsmith093: that's the tutorial I used anyways...
[23:25] <Kevin1a> min|dvir|us: The motherboard is a proprietary board that came out of an HP media PC.  Unfortunetly I can't seem to find an updated bios or anything for it.  Probably not looking in the right places.  Any other suggestions?   KM0201: I tried with headphones and a different cable last night and still had issues, so I don't think it's the speakers.
[23:25] <py> aha first i need to
[23:25] <py> open port
[23:25] <py> and than block all ?
[23:25] <py> not vice versa ?
[23:26] <bkc_> dr_willis: I'm guessing he's connected through an ssh-connectoin :/
[23:26] <min|dvir|us> Kevin1a: are you using the same inbound/outbound ports for microphone/speakers?
[23:26] <py> i am yes :S
[23:26] <bkc_> py: not block all... just the ones without a rule... hence 'default
[23:26] <bkc_> '
[23:26] <py> aha ok
[23:26] <py> sec
[23:26] <dr_willis> py,  so any other services you are running that need denied?
[23:26] <py> i hope i am not staying out
[23:26] <KM0201> Kevin1a: but if it's doing it in Windows and Ubuntu, it's obviously not an Ubuntu problem
[23:26] <py> well
[23:27] <py> i have few services that need to be open
[23:27] <py> but i would like to have ssh filtered
[23:27] <py> all other ports can be
[23:27] <py> opened for all
[23:27] <py> except ssh to IP
[23:27] <opieng> i installed google chrome, but don't know where its gone or how to access it
[23:27] <dr_willis> py,  details of your exact network setup would be handy..  im not sure how you are 'filtering' ssh by  having it open,, and layoff the enterkey
[23:27] <zimm3r> In ubuntu 11.04 is there a way for it to just ignore the certificate when connecting to the internet through a wpa2 enterprise network?
[23:28] <bkc_> !enter > py
[23:28] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis: many people have had this issue as ive seen on forums. how can i at least make nomodeset permanent? keep in mind i am a brand new user :)
[23:28] <JessicaW> bkc_: hmmm. If I chroot into the image, there's no path for the compilers and it errors out.
[23:28] <py> bkc_: dr_willis oki doki i would like to filter ssh so there won't be some jurks who try to brutforce ssh or something... so it will be filter only for my ip
[23:28] <W4sp> opieng: You can start from command line as 'chromium-browser &'
[23:28] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[23:29] <py> bkc_: dr_willis than i run ircd server wowza streaming and some other stuff that is open for public those ports should stay open for everyone
[23:29] <bkc_> JessicaW: you need to debootstrap build-essentials, as it isn't part of the base installation anymore :)
[23:29] <py> bkc_: dr_willis so what i am trying to do is filter ssh :)
[23:29] <bkc_> py: that requires more than ufw ^^
[23:29] <JessicaW> bkc_: bah. I'll just install it and purge it when done
[23:30] <py> bkc_: why :)
[23:30] <bkc_> JessicaW: It doesn't take that much space... so why not leave it :)
[23:30] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis: ok and i type that where for it to stick
[23:30] <py> isnt so that ports are by default open.... so i would need to filter only ssh
[23:30] <py> :)
[23:30] <opieng> W4sp, it says command not found, is there anyway of pulling up an icon, its for my wife laptop and she is not used to commands lines
[23:30] <opieng> .... by the looks of it neither am I, but I am determined to learn
[23:30] <Kevin1a> min|dvir|us: The onboard audio, the Creative sound card have seperate output jacks.  The Wireless headset just a has a little USB thing.  I'm guessing it has to be hardware related though because Ubuntu never really gives me problems, and now both it and Windows are acting up.  One more fact I forgot to mention.  The stuttering and static seem to be independent of the CPU load to some degree.  Yes it happens when I'm playing Crysis, but it a
[23:30] <Kevin1a> lso happens when I'm listening to a regular old mp3 or ogg file.
[23:31] <bkc_> py: I don't think you quite understan dhow ports and firewalls work, and I'm to drunk to explain ^^
[23:31] <dr_willis> newtoubuntu:  read the url the not gave
[23:31] <dr_willis> Not...
[23:31] <bkc_> !nomodeset | newtoubuntu
[23:31] <dr_willis> Silly auto fix..
[23:31] <py> i think i understand it, just not familiar with ubuntu and dont wonna lock me out
[23:31] <JessicaW> bkc_: I guess I could. I just want to keep the image very very small. All these servers are doing is processing. no writing to hdd or use of memory other than to support CPUs.
[23:31] <py> does hosts.deny allow still work on latest ubuntu ?
[23:32] <bkc_> JessicaW: well... they all use the same image on nfs, so there's not that much overhead really (done it already, on Arch thou)
[23:32] <graingert> py: why do you want to stop ssh/
[23:32] <graingert> ?*
[23:32] <W4sp> opieng: It should be in '/usr/bin/chromium-browser'. How did you install it? If you use Software Centre the icon is created automaticaly. Also, in Unity you can type in chrome and it should come up.
[23:32] <py> graingert: not stop
[23:32] <py> just filter per IP
[23:32] <bkc_> graingert: he wants to limit access to it
[23:32] <py> so only my ip would be able to login
[23:33] <JessicaW> bkc_: good point. It's only a few MB it looks like.
[23:33] <bkc_> py: and then I just have to rootkit your computer, and I'm done :)
[23:33] <py> :D
[23:33] <graingert> py: just use knockd, a different port and publickey auth
[23:33] <graingert> in reverse order
[23:33] <bkc_> py: filtered ip is really a moot argument :)
[23:34] <py> hm
[23:34] <bkc_> py: also, afaik you can turn on auto-blacklisting. so it will blacklist bruteforcers :/
[23:34] <graingert> py: those are the three best ways to stop people haxing you
[23:34] <zimm3r> Is there anyway to have ubuntu ignore a invalid cert on a wpa2 enterprise connection
[23:35] <opieng> W4sp, I install it through terminal with aptitude.. trying to learn command lines. I found it in unity, and it now pops an icon on the desktop for me
[23:35] <py> bkc_: graingert wait
[23:35] <lickalott> guys...i'm 10 google pages into vsftpd and cannot find out how to change the location of the default ftp path.  can someone point me in the right direction?
[23:35] <lickalott> plz
[23:35] <py> so what first
[23:35] <graingert> public key auth only
[23:35] <bkc_> JessicaW: a compiler is always good to have on a compute-cluster ;)
[23:35] <py> aha
[23:36] <bkc_> py: also, a strong password ^^
[23:36] <graingert> py: *reply to dm* hello?
[23:36] <W4sp> opieng: Fine, you can leave an icon in Launcher. When you have Chrome running right-click the icon in the Launcher.
[23:36] <newtoubuntu> Thanks a lot to all who helped me
[23:36] <graingert> bkc_: well you don't need to worry about passwords with pubkey only
[23:36] <bkc_> graingert: indeed
[23:37] <Oros> hi
[23:37] <py> good
[23:37] <py> than i am going to do that
[23:37] <py> tnx
[23:37] <py> what about fw than no need ?
[23:37] <bkc_> py: not really
[23:37] <py> if ports need to be open
[23:38] <Oros> Noticed that StartUpManager is no longer in the repository. What is the easiest way to edit the grub meny. Have tried to install Grub customizer without success
[23:38] <py> oki
[23:38] <JessicaW> bkc_: I'm noticing that. I think I'll leave it. :D
[23:38] <bkc_> firewalls are good for one thing, routers :)