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psyduck69I love icecream...00:37
Unit193So do I.00:39
xubuntu137hi, my cannon camera wont auto mount on my Xubuntu, what should i do?00:51
GridCube!cannon01:09
bluesabre!canon01:10
bluesabrebut ubottu01:10
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rghvdberghi, my usb hdd won't automount after boot. how can i fix this ?07:24
Unit193First check in Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Removable Drives, and if it already is, use fstab.07:31
rghvdbergok thnx Unit19307:32
Bonobohi guys!10:26
Bonobo.. and galls..10:27
Bonoboanyone there?10:27
TheSheep!hi | Bonobo10:27
ubottuBonobo: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!10:27
BonoboHi!! I'm kinda new on Linux stuff, and am about to install Xubuntu on an old machine of mine. I was just wondering if I can install it by making a virtual drive from the ISO image file of the installationdisk...10:30
TheSheepBonobo: no, because you have to reboot the computer to boot the new system10:31
TheSheepBonobo: but there was a way of installing xubuntu from an existing linux system10:31
TheSheep!install | Bonobo10:31
ubottuBonobo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate10:31
Bonobook.. but in a usb stick, will it do if I change the Bios settings to check my USB stick upon loading?10:32
TheSheepyes10:32
Bonobogreat.. thanks a million for the answers, links, etc10:34
Starni'm in need of assistance on setting a local media server in xubuntu. (i've already setup remote access and couple of tiny servers and a minecraft server on it.) but this machine has a lot of resources and i have around 3.5tb of storage space. so essentially i'm wanting a cloud/media server a small one.10:55
Starni'm kind of wanting to avoid Apache. and also want it to work completely on my android phone. perferably via an app.10:56
Starnalso,  i honestly need a better way of remoting into xubuntu from windows other than stuff like Teamviewer even though i experience no lag with it. i still have the issue of it crashing in xubuntu, and i do not know how to make it auto start if such a crash happens.10:57
theGrgzFor *buntu ISO rematering purposes, would it matter if I'm chrooting from a non *buntu host distro?11:36
zedrhello, I have a dependency problem when installing the package `libxslt1-dev`: libxslt1-dev : Depends: libxslt1.1 (= 1.1.26-8ubuntu1) but 1.1.26-8ubuntu1.1 is to be installed11:51
TheSheepzedr: you have added some repos with never versions of that library, but an older version is required by that package11:53
zedrhmm11:55
zedrit's strange, because I have only the default repos in my sources.list11:56
kelkundefor_Hi ! Is there a french channel ?11:57
Unit193!fr11:58
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:58
kelkundefor_Thanks !11:58
tech1how can i enable or disable anti aliasing for specific programs?12:57
TheSheeptech1: not sure it's possible13:03
tech1i need anti aliasing off in text editors or it is too blurry to read...... but with it off, some websites on chrome look terrible and also text in my windows/gui looks terrible13:06
tech1and yes i have tweaked the hinting options13:06
tech1there must be a way to choose which apps have it...13:07
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PaperNickhello14:09
PaperNickI have a suggestion14:09
PaperNickWho can I write to ?14:09
GridCube!mailist14:10
bazhang!brainstorm | PaperNick14:10
ubottuPaperNick: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!14:10
PaperNickok thx14:10
PaperNick:)14:10
bazhang!lists14:10
ubottuMail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailing lists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com14:10
PaperNickthanks you I searched a lot, but I just came to this irc channel ^^14:11
bazhangnp14:11
GridCubeif its a dedicated to xubuntu suggestion you can go to the lists first14:11
PaperNickon this link ?  http://lists.ubuntu.com14:11
GridCubePaperNick, http://xubuntu.org/contribute/14:12
ztxgpsman!ask14:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:12
ztxgpsman!patience14:13
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:13
ztxgpsman!list14:13
ubottuztxgpsman: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:13
bazhangztxgpsman, /msg ubottu14:13
ztxgpsman!lists14:13
ubottuMail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailing lists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com14:13
PaperNickI'm sorry I was just looking someone to ask where can I write for ideas...14:13
bazhangztxgpsman, please14:14
ztxgpsmanbazhang, sri cut.paste error duh14:14
GridCube:) PaperNick sure14:14
GridCubeshare them on the mailing list as the contribute page suggest you to :)14:14
GridCubePaperNick, those bot calls wherent meant for you :P14:15
PaperNickI'm now on the xubuntu link - http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ How can I write for a suggestion without joining any team. And it's my second time on freenode. I thought it was some sort of admin, not bot :D14:16
GridCubePaperNick, you can join freely to the mailing lists14:17
PaperNickHow it works ? I mean what do I do after I join... Can I write directly ?14:18
GridCubeor you can send a mail to xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com14:18
PaperNickoh thank you E-Mail is perfect14:18
PaperNick:)14:18
GridCubeyes, you send a mail to that adress and all the people on the list recieve it14:18
PaperNickThanks again :)14:19
GridCubeif you join the ml you will get any answer not directly send to you aswel14:19
GridCubepeople will answer to the mailing list, not to you, thats why you need to join :)14:19
PaperNickAhh, now I see the difference :)14:19
keraxhi all!14:34
Unit193!hi14:34
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!14:34
keraxi would like to ask your help: i have a pc with en e5300 cpu, 2 gb ram. how would xubuntu run on this config?14:35
keraxshould i try lubuntu instead of xubuntu? (i'm a newbie... :))14:36
holsteinkerax: you can try xubuntu live and see how the hardware support will be..14:36
Unit1932G ram should be fine, but I don't personally know the CPU.14:36
Unit193SHould work well though, and above.14:36
keraxokay, thanks for the advice. now i'm testing ubuntu, and learning the basics.14:37
GridCubekerax, should work14:37
holsteinkerax: you can install XFCE in ubuntu... XFCE and/or LXDE... xubuntu = ubuntu + XFCE (basically)14:38
keraxholstein: so i can "test" xubuntu/lubuntu by changing the GUI?14:39
holsteinkerax: sure, but that literally all the changes there are.. the GUI and some packages, and you arent "testing", you are just running xubuntu14:39
Unit193Could try a LiveCD, see what you think.14:40
keraxholstein: i see. and if i install, theoretically, xubuntu and lubuntu, can they exist at the same time?14:41
bazhangkerax, yes, you can have as many -desktop's as you wish, though you need to change at the login window14:45
keraxbazhang: okay. i'll give a try which fits me the best14:47
sandal2110someone her who can help ?14:57
TheSheep!hi| sandal211014:58
ubottusandal2110: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!14:58
sandal2110did not find my old ubuntu cd to parttion my harddrive, so i did download the new one, has it gparted or similar programs, not finding anything ?14:59
TheSheepit does have gparted15:01
TheSheepunder 'system'15:01
TheSheepor you can start it from a terminal15:01
sandal2110on the left side i have only system settings15:02
sandal2110no icon that says system only15:04
sandal2110hmmm found that terminal ist installad, but how to start it ^^15:11
sandal2110found disk utility, can red info and remove it, but using, no chance ^^15:11
Unit193sandal2110: Open the terminal, type    gksudo gparted15:14
sandal2110thanks for the try to help, but where to find t oopen a terminal ?15:16
bazhangcontrol alt T15:17
Unit193Menu > Accessories  or in the bottom panel.15:17
sandal2110control alt t worked, and the command line opend gparted15:19
sandal2110thanks thanks thank :)15:19
sandal2110know just knowing how i used it 2 years ago hehe ^^ *search and testing*15:20
sandal2110hmmmm gparted says that a new partition table can only be created when there are no active partitions, he wants me to deactivate it15:23
sandal2110deaktivation with unmount safe ?15:24
sandal2110*looking up in the help*15:24
sandal2110got it, thanks to you all, have a nice day *boot new*15:30
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bepebehello, i am having trouble loading a gui when first start xubuntu. I have to CTRL+ALT+F1, log in, and run startx as root to get a GUI. if I try CTRL+ALT+F7 i have nothing, any ideas ?16:24
holsteinbepebe: i would first look for and apply upgrades. then look for some helpful error messages...since you are getting to a desktop, i dont think this is graphics card driver related16:31
bepebeholstein, the screen went black and stayed like it during an additional drivers install, which was for the gfx, so I pressed CTRL+ALT+F1, then rebooted16:33
holsteinbepebe: share what you feel is relavant.. you had a desktop.. installed a driver for your graphics, and now have no desktop?16:34
GridCubebepebe, go to /etc/X11 and rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.back and reboot16:35
bepebeholstein, yes clean install from 12.04.1 x86 cd. rebooted, connected to wireless, it detected additional drivers, asked to activate, so did, halfway through activating/install/downloading screen just sat on black for ages. eventually gave up and pressed ctrl+alt+f116:35
holsteinbepebe: feel free and ask if you need help with GridCube 's suggestion16:36
bepebeno xorg.conf file exist's ..16:37
GridCubemmm16:38
GridCubethen the video drivers have nothing to do16:38
bepebei remember seeing a few times when trying to start it normally, couldn't write to a pipe or something along those lines. the GDM Login Manager/Windows appears briefly then a cursor just sits in top left16:39
GridCubemmmm16:39
holsteini would probably do my normal routine of testing the ram and hard drive...16:40
GridCubexubuntu now uses lightdm, from a tty launch: sudo service lightdm start16:40
bepebeit's a brand new system :(16:40
holsteinbepebe: sure.. and i would test to confirm everything is working properly16:40
bepebeok will do16:41
bepebethanks16:42
drcbepebe: Can you say "Bell Curve"?  Some hardware hs to be on the lossing side of the curve.16:42
bepebeIt's a shame if that is the case, I wanted to run Linux on this netbook..16:43
drcbepebe: The odds are against it being hardware, but it's good to rule out the obvious first.16:44
* drc knows, he's been bitten by the obvious-to-a-casual observer bug many time :(16:44
recon_lapon the other hand, this blinking cursor instead of login seem to be happening quite a lot16:53
livingdaylightgreetings16:55
drcSalutations16:55
livingdaylightwhat are the dialogs called when I change volume for e.g.16:56
drcNotifications?16:56
livingdaylightafter I'm done a ghost dialog remains long after I'm done adjusting volume and it sticks around as an obstruction - drives me crazy - can I change how quickly it stays visible?16:57
livingdaylightnotifications!16:57
livingdaylightsounds right drc16:57
drcMenu>Settings>SettingsManager>Notifications16:57
livingdaylightSettings Editor?16:58
drcI think the default is 10 seconds, I change mine to 316:58
drcnot settings Editor16:58
drcSettings Manager16:59
livingdaylightahh! right at the top16:59
drcsnake!16:59
livingdaylightusually things are logically organized in linux - alphabetically16:59
livingdaylightso, easy and I let it drive me crazy for weeks !17:00
livingdaylightdrc, thank you17:00
drcnp17:00
livingdaylightyou use xubuntu?17:00
drcyes17:01
livingdaylightI'm running Voyager presently17:01
drcThe spacecraft?  You're a LONG way from home.17:01
drcURC lag must be hell :)17:01
livingdaylightnot clever enough to customize my own xubuntu, so, happy to use someone else's xubuntu customized .iso17:01
drcEr..IRC17:02
livingdaylightthis one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXwNF0VvRLQ17:03
xubuntu697I've downloaded xubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso . Can someone tell me if I can just copy that onto a flash drive, plug it into my HP Mini 1000 (which now has a Mac OS) and expect it to wipe out the existing OS and install xubuntu?17:33
recon_lapgee, people really have no patience these days17:36
Stella4449I've downloaded xubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso . Can someone tell me if I can just copy that onto a flash drive, plug it into my HP Mini 1000 (which now has a Mac OS) and expect it to wipe out the existing OS and install xubuntu?17:36
TheSheepStella4449: no17:37
TheSheep!install | Stella444917:37
ubottuStella4449: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate17:37
GridCube!unetbootin17:37
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:37
GridCubeStella4449, ^^17:37
Stella4449So this all works for xubuntu too?17:38
recon_lapStella4449: you'll need to burn the iso onto the flashdrive for it to work, and the alternate install will not install a GUI, so you'll only have the command line17:38
Stella4449I love you folks... you know so much!17:38
GridCubeStella4449, yes, ubuntu and xubuntu are pretty much the same, except the desktop we use17:38
Unit193Alternate will install a GUI, just doesn't install using one.17:39
recon_lapopps, good to know17:39
Stella4449recon_lap: So what can I use instead of the alternate? Will the regular one be too big? I have 4 gb of space.17:39
Stella4449And a gig of RAM17:40
Unit193Do you have a bigger HDD you can put in there?17:40
Stella4449Nope, fraid not.17:40
recon_lapStella4449: what type of machine are you installing on ?17:42
Stella4449An HP Mini 1000 tablet/notebook17:43
Stella4449That's why I wanted to use the x version17:44
Stella4449It's not as robust but it has all I'd need17:44
recon_laplooked it up, says it has a 60gb hdd?17:44
Stella4449Yes and once the Mac OS goes away I should have that much.17:45
recon_lapthe 4gb is your flash drive? if so that plenty to load the ISO which is about 740mb when burned17:46
recon_lapthen use the flash drive to load ubuntu onto the HP Mini17:47
Stella4449I've never installed any OS over another one, so that's why I'm so ignorant. The flash drive is 4 gb. I wasn't sure if it would immediately wipe out the Mac OS17:48
recon_lapStella4449: just burn the ISO onto the flashdrive, then you can boot from the Flashdrive17:48
recon_lapStella4449: when the flashdrive is working you can then install onto you HDD removing MacOS17:49
Stella4449Cool! That was my original question. Didn't know if ISO was bootable. Thanks! I'll let you know what happens.17:49
Stella4449I appreciate your help.17:50
recon_lapStella4449: you know how to burn a ISO, it's not the same as copying17:50
GridCube>burn to flashdrive?17:50
GridCubewhat?17:50
Stella4449Oh, I didn't know. I'm running Windows 7 on a PC laptop. So I just use the Burn function instead of the Copy one?17:51
GridCubeyou need to make a booteble usb drive, you do that using programs like unetbootin17:51
GridCubeor what ubottu said earlier:17:51
GridCube!unetbootin17:51
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:51
Stella4449Oh... Okay, I'll go read the docs on that.  Right. Now I get it.  It's hell being a newbie!17:52
drcEveryone was newbie at one time.17:52
recon_lapGridCube: well, burn was the best word i could come up with :)17:53
GridCubepretty wrong one though, given that "burn" implies the device would not be usable afterward17:54
Stella4449True that, drc.  Fortunately I'm not a universal newbie17:54
GridCube:) but i understand recon_lap :) dont worry17:54
Stella4449I get it.  Gonna go delve into docs.  Thanks again guys!17:55
b3rz3rk3r__hi guys, just installed xubuntu 12.04 to my desktop and the volume keys are being registered but do not change the volume. They show the notification osd, but dont actually modify anything. How do i set them to manage the correct output?18:06
GridCube!info keytouch-editor | b3rz3rk3r_18:08
ubottub3rz3rk3r_: keytouch-editor (source: keytouch-editor): create keyboard files for keytouch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0~beta-3 (precise), package size 89 kB, installed size 388 kB18:08
b3rz3rk3r__GridCube: so just sudo apt-get install that?18:09
GridCubeyep18:09
b3rz3rk3r__GridCube: i get this when i try to launch it: No event devices are available in /dev/input/.18:10
GridCubeah?18:11
GridCubeoh he's gone18:11
b3rz3rk3r__no here still18:11
b3rz3rk3r__sorry realised i had another client open18:11
drcpleia2 and knome:  Nice document, it's obvious that a good deal of thought went into it.  Congrats.18:11
GridCubeoh, the keythouch thing, it has to detect your keyboard18:12
b3rz3rk3r__GridCube: how do i do that?18:13
drcopps...wrong channel :(18:13
GridCubeit should do it automagically18:13
b3rz3rk3r__GridCube: sounds like a reboot may be in order?18:14
b3rz3rk3r__giving it a go, cos why not :p  BRB18:14
GridCubeprobably, yes, its a deamon after all18:14
b3rz3rk3r_GridCube: still the same :(18:16
b3rz3rk3r_GridCube: ok well thats embarrasing... it needs sudo and it works fine18:18
GridCubeoh18:18
GridCubelol18:18
b3rz3rk3r_GridCube: sorry for giving you a headache :p18:18
GridCubei was installing it to see what happened18:18
b3rz3rk3r_GridCube: im not sure this is going to fix the problem though18:20
b3rz3rk3r_the keys are detected and show a notification, they just dont change the right volume device18:20
GridCubeoh18:20
b3rz3rk3r_this program is for when your keys aren't registering at all by the looks of it?18:20
GridCubei though there werent being recongnized18:21
b3rz3rk3r_GridCube: sorry i wasn't clear, they work and are detected fine. They just dont change the master volume18:21
GridCubeb3rz3rk3r_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/99056218:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 990562 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "Laptop FN Sound Keys don't update mixer volume" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:23
b3rz3rk3r_GridCube: yeah i found that too, but there is no fix. not even a work around. Just lots of "me toos"18:24
GridCubeyep18:25
GridCubesad isnt it?18:25
GridCubeadd a bug report18:25
GridCubetheres not much else i can recommend you to do18:25
b3rz3rk3r_mkay, thanks for trying. it was worth a go anyway :)18:26
recon_lapb3rz3rk3r_: generally need some uber programmer to volunteer to fix it :)18:26
b3rz3rk3r_is it worth starting a new bug report do you think?18:26
recon_lapb3rz3rk3r_: not if it's the same bug18:28
b3rz3rk3r_guess i'll just add my "me too" there as well then :/18:29
b3rz3rk3r_thanks recon_lap18:29
recon_lapoddthing is that they work for me18:30
drcwork fine for me also :)18:30
GridCubeme too, not the brightness ones tho18:30
drcBrightness?18:31
b3rz3rk3r_i've got a logitech illuminated attached to a desktop18:31
recon_lapvaguely remember setting them up manually18:31
b3rz3rk3r_i've found another link that says to dig into mixer settings and change active card to something else. trying that now18:32
recon_lapb3rz3rk3r_: think I just bound the keys from the command line to vol+/vol- commands18:33
b3rz3rk3r_i'll give that a go if this doesnt work now.18:34
b3rz3rk3r_brb18:34
GridCubeb3rz3rk3r_,18:34
GridCubetry to bind your function key on keytouch to alsa mixer volume up and down18:34
recon_laphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/XfceMultimediaKeys18:36
recon_laplooks good :)18:37
Guest50967Relative newcomer here. Wondering about root ( / ) permissions. Did update yesterday and got mesg "WARN: / world writable" Checked perms for root and they're at 777. Is this something to worry about? Using Ub Studio 12.04. Thanks18:48
b3rz3rk3r_that trick doesn't work either :/18:49
b3rz3rk3r_recon_lap: how did you bind them from terminal?18:49
recon_laphave a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XfceMultimediaKeys19:06
recon_lap b3rz3rk3r_  ^ ^19:06
recon_lapwas making dinner19:07
b3rz3rk3r_recon_lap: i've fixed it!19:07
b3rz3rk3r_but thanks :)19:07
b3rz3rk3r_it was worth all the effort, thanks for the suggestions19:08
David-AGuest50967: / world writable is a big security hole. users that should not have sudo rights can easily gain it. question is, how did it happen?19:11
drcrecon_lap: Thanks!  Now the Prev/Next, etc. keys work for me :)19:24
recon_lapdrc: no problem, I've moved on to eating dinner now ;) yumm19:27
drcOf course you have enough for all of us?19:27
xubuntu341Hello Moto!19:40
xubuntu341i have one question for you19:41
xubuntu341any one?19:42
drc!ask19:42
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:42
xubuntu341ok19:42
xubuntu341so, this quest its about quantal 12.10 and mobility radeon x700. I woul lke to know about the radeon public drivers that come in the distro. How could i run them instead vesa. Thank you.19:44
drc12.10 questions go to #ubuntu+119:44
recon_lapwonders why a newbie starts on a development release!!19:47
drcBecause s/he can. And it's kool.19:48
xubuntu341wonder response is cause i want to learn19:48
recon_lapxubuntu341: yes, but why start on a unstable pre-release version?19:49
xubuntu341helping with my pc to thers, how it worrks on my  laptop19:49
drcxubuntu341: If you are starting out from no knowledge and want to learn, then I'd stay with stable releases and not try the bleeding edge.19:49
xubuntu341you, but not me.19:50
xubuntu341ty19:50
recon_lapxubuntu341:  by installing the unreleased version you have reduced the number of people that can help you by about 99%19:50
xubuntu341probably, but ubuntu is based on debian too, so same languaje19:51
recon_lapwell, good luck in ubuntu+119:52
xubuntu341ty19:52
Sysibeta version quirks have very little to do with real usercase problems19:52
Vlad105I've got problem with my monitor. It tends to suddenly freeze and after that it loses signal. I thought it was a compatibility problem between linux and graphics card. So I switched to windows but this only increased the times of crashes per hour. Now I'm back with Xubuntu but I still have some crashes.19:53
SysiVlad105: check your cables is it old graphics card? it might be breaking down19:54
recon_lapVlad105: overheating?19:55
Vlad105I've checked cabels many times. I thought also it would be caused by dust because after it crashes once, another crash soon follows. After a night I can use it without crashes for couple hours. However, there isn't such pattern when using linux.19:56
recon_lapVlad105: try checking the temperature after computer has been on for 15min, then check it again after a crash and see if there is a differance19:57
holsteinyeah, id spray it out with compressed air, and look around in it as best you can.. see if its dirty inside... try a different graphics card...19:57
Vlad105I cleaned it up, I only opened the computer's side panel though19:58
holsteinVlad105: if you've tested and had issues with multiple operating systems, then id say its safe to start exploring what hardware is failing19:59
recon_lapVlad105: could be your possessor or video card, had similar behavior before with overheating. could be lots of things19:59
holsteini usually take the hard drive out of machines like that, and start booting live CDs so that forcing the power off wont hurt the moving parts19:59
holsteintake it out/unplug the power cable to it20:00
Vlad105hm20:00
recon_lapVlad105: check you memory as well20:00
recon_lapVlad105: what you describe makes me think overheating20:02
Vlad105Graphics card is: "AMD nee ATI RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200]" According to sysinfo. I don't know anything about hardware. I have never touched such stuff really.20:03
holsteinVlad105: right.. that hardware could be failing. the graphics card.. memory.. any of it really20:03
holsteini agree with recon_lap ... sounds like its just getting hot20:03
recon_lapVlad105: have in installed the temperature app on your tool bar?20:04
Vlad105That's what I think too. Anything I can do about it?20:04
Vlad105No, I haven't installed.20:04
holsteinVlad105: troubleshoot and track down the issue.. clean, replace20:04
recon_lapVlad105: is it a desktop?20:04
holsteini have other cards laying aobut that i would swap in to test... assuming its a desktop20:04
Vlad105yes20:05
Vlad105I think20:05
Vlad105Umm, noob question. What is a desktop. Just to make sure.20:05
recon_lapVlad105: sits under your desk :) big metal box that you can take the case off20:06
drcVlad105: Rule of thumb, if it's not a laptop, it's a desktop :)20:06
Vlad105okay, so we are on the same page. I do have a desktop.20:06
recon_lapVlad105: age of machine ?20:06
Vlad105I can't remember the age.20:07
holsteinVlad105: maybe you can just look on the box, and see what sticker is on it... if its says "made for windows vista" that is putting it at a certain age20:08
holsteinthere should be a date on it.. a build date20:08
Vlad105it had vista20:08
holsteinstill, a graphics card can be cheap.. ive gotten them free before20:08
Vlad105mm20:09
recon_lapVlad105: ok, install the temp app on you tool bar, get a can of compressed air, take the hood off, blow dust out of the heat sinks, start computer and look to see if all fans are turning20:09
Vlad105I blew with a vacuum cleaner, to the fans. They all were spinning20:10
holsteinVlad105: right... you'l want compressed air... made for cleaning said components20:10
Vlad105oh..20:11
holsteinlet me rephrase...i would want that20:11
recon_lapVlad105: the processor gunk could have dried up to, but thats a tricky thing to replace/fix.20:11
Vlad105Especially that I recently found how to open up my computer's side panel.20:12
Vlad105but if it is overheating probelm, why does linux work better than windows20:13
recon_lapVlad105: install the temp monitor, get the compressed air, should only be a few dollars20:13
Vlad105temp monitor? Psenso perhaps?20:14
recon_lapVlad105: linux probably not working you processor as hard as windows20:14
Vlad105Most likely, computer doesn't make any sound when running linux.20:14
Vlad105Quite the opposite with Vista.20:14
recon_lapVlad105: there should be a temp applet installed, you just need to make it visible in your tool bar20:15
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recon_lapVlad105: I take it back, I'll have a look for one you can install20:18
Vlad105okay20:19
drcrecon_lap: inxi + lm_sensors20:19
drcthen inxi -s20:19
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drcwait...inxi is not in xubuntu repos :(20:20
Vlad105I noticed.20:20
Vlad105I think.20:21
recon_lap sudo apt-get install xfce4-sensors-plugin20:21
Vlad105okkay, brb20:23
Vlad506what was that command again20:26
FounderOf420sudo apt-get install xfce4-sensors-plugi20:27
FounderOf420sudo apt-get install xfce4-sensors-plugin *20:27
recon_laplook really crappy though :(20:27
David-A(and forget the star)20:27
Vlad506"unable to lock the administration directory"20:29
FounderOf420do u have synaptic running?20:30
Vlad506Oh..20:30
Vlad506._.20:30
FounderOf420or some other package app20:30
Vlad506I think I got it.20:33
Vlad506umm, the app20:33
recon_lapVlad506: so add it to your tool bar, it's a bit of a dog but it does show my CPU temp20:34
Vlad506"The command hddtemp" wasn't performed correctly20:35
holsteinis it showing the gpu temp? you dont need the hdd temp, or so we are assuming20:35
Vlad506"temp1 40,0 celcius"20:37
Vlad506=I20:37
adam__hello20:37
FounderOf420hi20:38
adam__when i boot up, i can't seem to boot windows 7 after installing xubuntu alongide it20:38
adam__im given the option to boot from windows 7 but when i select it, it goes to a black screen and then just goes back to the boot loader20:39
holsteinadam__: sometimes there are a few options.. are there a couple "windowsy" looking ones?20:39
adam__well there is ""Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda2" and "Windows Recovery Environment (loader) on /dev/sda1"20:41
adam__ive been trying to load from the first option20:42
adam__http://pastebin.com/9PJpxyMx20:42
holsteini would just try both and see... i had one labeled incorrectly20:42
adam__i'll try the other options, i'll be back fi they dont work20:43
Vlad506Thanks for everyone for patience and help. It is past my bedtime, so I'll continue other time20:43
adam__alright, so i tried rom windows recover environment loader20:46
adam__it showed me a starting windows screen and then went back to the bootloader20:47
holsteini usually see those loops when something is wrong with windows... was something wrong with windwos before?20:48
adam__no, it ran perfectly20:48
adam__should i try booting from the ones that aren't labeled windows?20:51
holsteinadam__: i know you must be frustrated, but if it were me, i would do the normal windows things... and just test the hard drive for errors20:51
holsteinadam__: sure.. i would literlaly try booting *all* options.. it wont take long20:51
holsteinanything thats not linux in the boot loader20:51
adam__how would i check if there is something wrong with the hard drive?20:52
recon_lapadam__: did you just install ubuntu, or is this a new problem and you could boot to windows before?20:52
adam__just installed xubuntu last night20:53
holsteinadam__: i have live CD's that i use for diagnostics.. you can do whatever you are comfortable with20:53

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