| === jocarter is now known as highvoltage | ||
| ahoneybun | what can I do to help with the devel of 12.10? | 01:49 |
|---|---|---|
| ahoneybun | maybe package redshift | 01:52 |
| ahoneybun | plasma-widget-redshift | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: hmm ... lemme think of a task | 01:58 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 01:59 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: I think I might try to package redshift | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | it's not 12.10, but still Kubuntu Dev nonetheless | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | I was going to give you the task of backport ktp | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | *backporting | 01:59 |
| ahoneybun | whatever a newbie can do to help | 02:00 |
| ahoneybun | I have the backport enabled and KDE SC 4.9 installed | 02:00 |
| shadeslayer | sec | 02:02 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: do you have a precise pbuilder set up? | 02:02 |
| ahoneybun | no | 02:02 |
| shadeslayer | ok, I'd suggest you install pbuilder and set one up | 02:03 |
| shadeslayer | also install ubuntu-dev-tools and pkg-kde-tools | 02:03 |
| shadeslayer | on that note | 02:03 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: can we somehow validate desktop files from inside the buildd before we ship them in install files? | 02:04 |
| shadeslayer | like, somehow add this functionality in dh | 02:04 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: aptitude is running and installing the packages | 02:04 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 02:04 |
| shadeslayer | let me know when you're done :) | 02:05 |
| ahoneybun | ok :) also should I have SSH keys and such setup on Launchpad? | 02:05 |
| shadeslayer | CoC needs to be signed and gpg keys uploaded | 02:05 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: help me with the gpg keys please | 02:06 |
| shadeslayer | generating them? | 02:06 |
| shadeslayer | or signing/uploading | 02:06 |
| ahoneybun | maybe both, I do have a OpenPg something up there | 02:07 |
| shadeslayer | if you have already generated it | 02:08 |
| shadeslayer | then you just need to upload the public key into launchpad | 02:08 |
| shadeslayer | just follow the instructions on your launchpad page really :) | 02:08 |
| ahoneybun | ssh-key? | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | no need for the ssh key | 02:11 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: well its there for any use later | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 02:12 |
| ahoneybun | just guide me to the right page :) | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | well .. what's your lp page? | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | should be something like : launchpad.net/~foobar | 02:13 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: too much work on your side? https://launchpad.net/~honeycuttaaron3 | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | seems like everything is good to go on your side really | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | You've signed the CoC | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | your ssh and gpg keys are there | 02:14 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: now click on Create New ppa | 02:14 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 02:14 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: note, once you create a PPA you can't change your lp name | 02:16 |
| shadeslayer | as in this part : ~honeycuttaaron3 | 02:17 |
| ahoneybun | I did not know you could change that | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | so in the future if you apply for Ubuntu membership or sth, you will get honeycuttaaron3@ubuntu.com | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~/~honeycuttaaron3/+edit | 02:18 |
| shadeslayer | er | 02:18 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~honeycuttaaron3/+edit | 02:18 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: thanks, ok next step? | 02:19 |
| shadeslayer | open a konsole please :) | 02:19 |
| shadeslayer | and run : setup-packaging-environment | 02:19 |
| ahoneybun | working on it | 02:21 |
| ahoneybun | done | 02:23 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 02:24 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: how much RAM do you have? | 02:24 |
| ahoneybun | 4gbs | 02:24 |
| shadeslayer | ok .. we won't mount the builds into RAM then | 02:25 |
| ahoneybun | too little. | 02:26 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: please put this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1172996/ in ~/.pbuilderrc | 02:26 |
| shadeslayer | yeah too little :) | 02:26 |
| ahoneybun | I would like to have Kubuntu on my desktop with 8 but need windows 7 for game | 02:27 |
| ahoneybun | s | 02:27 |
| ahoneybun | as a text file? | 02:27 |
| ahoneybun | I do not have that folder | 02:28 |
| ahoneybun | that would be a config file | 02:30 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 02:30 |
| shadeslayer | just time nano ~/.pbuilderrc | 02:30 |
| shadeslayer | and paste the entire text into that file | 02:30 |
| ahoneybun | done with Kate | 02:31 |
| shadeslayer | s/time/type | 02:31 |
| shadeslayer | fair enough :) | 02:31 |
| ahoneybun | yep :) | 02:31 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: run : bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks | 02:32 |
| shadeslayer | and then move the directory to ~/.pbuilder-hooks | 02:33 |
| ahoneybun | make that dir? | 02:34 |
| shadeslayer | note that the hooks should be in ~/.pbuilder-hooks | 02:35 |
| shadeslayer | so you should ideally do : mv /path/to/pbuilder-hooks ~/.pbuilder-hooks | 02:35 |
| ahoneybun | did it that way | 02:36 |
| ahoneybun | done | 02:36 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 02:38 |
| shadeslayer | run : sudo DIST=precise pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd | 02:38 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 02:38 |
| ahoneybun | what was with making the ppa? | 02:38 |
| shadeslayer | sudo -E DIST=precise pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd | 02:38 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: you need a place to put your packages :) | 02:38 |
| ahoneybun | oh I see | 02:38 |
| ahoneybun | :) | 02:38 |
| shadeslayer | so you upload the sources to launchpad and it'll build everything and give you pretty debs | 02:39 |
| shadeslayer | then you add the ppa and can install all the packages | 02:40 |
| ahoneybun | what should i name the ppa? | 02:40 |
| shadeslayer | anything that you want really | 02:40 |
| shadeslayer | one of mine is named nightly ... | 02:40 |
| shadeslayer | you can just name it ppa as well | 02:40 |
| ahoneybun | ok that last command is still working | 02:42 |
| shadeslayer | yep, it'll take some time | 02:43 |
| shadeslayer | depends on your connection speed and disk io | 02:43 |
| ahoneybun | what time will you be on thurs? | 02:43 |
| shadeslayer | well .. usually I'm around from 8AM IST to 5 PM IST ( sproadically on IRC after 5 PM IST ) | 02:43 |
| shadeslayer | but there will be alot of people here to help :) | 02:44 |
| shadeslayer | ( 0230 UTC to 1430 UTC ) | 02:44 |
| ahoneybun | I'm in EST, I will come on when I can see what I can do, I will be at work and then gfs tomorrow | 02:44 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 02:44 |
| ahoneybun | I want to work on this some more | 02:45 |
| shadeslayer | it's fairly simple from now on | 02:45 |
| ahoneybun | "fairly" I need to know what to build | 02:45 |
| shadeslayer | you download my package, test build it, upload to your ppa, repeat for all tp packages | 02:45 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages | 02:46 |
| shadeslayer | more specifically https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=quantal | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | tp | 02:46 |
| shadeslayer | everything deps on ktp-common-internals, so you just need to make sure you upload common-internals first | 02:46 |
| ahoneybun | ok let me look | 02:47 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: have you ever used dch and debuild? | 02:47 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: lets just say I'm new to alot of this. :) but this is nice | 02:47 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok :) | 02:48 |
| shadeslayer | so what you do is download the source and the package using dget | 02:48 |
| shadeslayer | so let's call that step 1 | 02:48 |
| shadeslayer | step 1 : dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/ktp-common-internals_0.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa5.dsc | 02:48 |
| shadeslayer | you can search for the dsc file by clicking that arrow on the side | 02:48 |
| ahoneybun | arrow? dsc? | 02:49 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: open https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=quantal | 02:49 |
| shadeslayer | and scroll down to ktp-common-internals | 02:49 |
| shadeslayer | there's a small arrow on the left | 02:49 |
| shadeslayer | actually, you can just click the link as well | 02:50 |
| ahoneybun | well I just enter the dget command you gave | 02:50 |
| ahoneybun | yea lol | 02:50 |
| ahoneybun | more ways is always good | 02:50 |
| shadeslayer | yeah so you click the text that says ktp-common-internals and you'll see a foobar.dsc | 02:51 |
| shadeslayer | right click > copy link > dget -xu ctr-shift-v | 02:51 |
| ahoneybun | ok thanks where did that download to> | 02:52 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 02:52 |
| shadeslayer | do a ls | 02:52 |
| shadeslayer | you'll see ktp-common-internals-0.5.0 | 02:53 |
| ahoneybun | I see | 02:53 |
| shadeslayer | so you cd into that folder | 02:53 |
| ahoneybun | done, so I'm working on KDE-Telepathy | 02:54 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 02:54 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: did the pbuilder command finish? | 02:54 |
| ahoneybun | not yet | 02:55 |
| shadeslayer | ok, so in the ktp-common-internals folder, do a : dch -i | 02:56 |
| shadeslayer | this should ask you for your preferred editor, choose one and then we can proceed :) | 02:56 |
| ahoneybun | ok done with that | 02:57 |
| ahoneybun | 2min and 29 secs for that pbuilder command | 02:58 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 02:59 |
| ahoneybun | yep done | 03:00 |
| shadeslayer | ok, so, at the top you'll see a couple of things | 03:00 |
| shadeslayer | the first thing is the source name, which is ktp-common-internals | 03:00 |
| ahoneybun | hello Rohang | 03:00 |
| shadeslayer | then you have the version which will be 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa6 for you | 03:00 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 03:00 |
| shadeslayer | then you have the release which should be precise since we want to get it into precise | 03:01 |
| shadeslayer | what you want to edit is : version : 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 | 03:01 |
| ahoneybun | I have 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~ppa6 for precise | 03:02 |
| ahoneybun | and ppa5 12.10 | 03:03 |
| shadeslayer | right, change the last bit of the version, it should read 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 | 03:03 |
| ahoneybun | done | 03:04 |
| shadeslayer | can you paste the entire line here? | 03:04 |
| ahoneybun | yes wait | 03:05 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 03:05 |
| ahoneybun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1173039/ | 03:05 |
| shadeslayer | awesome! | 03:06 |
| shadeslayer | you want to add something like "No change backport to precise" | 03:06 |
| shadeslayer | after the * | 03:06 |
| shadeslayer | like I did for quantal | 03:06 |
| micahg | you can use the backportpackage tool from ubuntu-dev-tools | 03:06 |
| shadeslayer | or that ^ | 03:07 |
| ahoneybun | I just added the line | 03:07 |
| ahoneybun | with nano | 03:07 |
| shadeslayer | ok, that means scripting ktp for backports should be trivially simple then :P | 03:07 |
| ahoneybun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1173042/ | 03:08 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: now we test build | 03:08 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, thats fine :) | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | ok :) | 03:08 |
| shadeslayer | exit the text editor | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 03:08 |
| shadeslayer | and run : DIST=quantal pdebuild | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | quantal? | 03:09 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 03:09 |
| shadeslayer | sorry | 03:09 |
| shadeslayer | that's from muscle memory | 03:09 |
| shadeslayer | replace quantal with precise | 03:10 |
| ahoneybun | yea lol | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | happens every release >.> | 03:10 |
| ahoneybun | np running | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | so that'll take a couple of minutes to build and I have to go for a bit | 03:11 |
| shadeslayer | so I'll come back and we'll continue, or if micahg want's to take over from here | 03:11 |
| ahoneybun | I should sleep for work tomorrow | 03:12 |
| shadeslayer | ah :D | 03:12 |
| ahoneybun | ? :D | 03:12 |
| shadeslayer | you're 2 commands away from uploading to the PPA | 03:12 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 03:12 |
| shadeslayer | ( assuming build completes successfully ) | 03:12 |
| ahoneybun | well lets get this thing built! | 03:13 |
| shadeslayer | after the build is done, you want to run : debuild -S -sa : which will prepare the necessary files to be uploaded | 03:13 |
| shadeslayer | then dput ppa:yourlpname/yourppa ktp-common-internals_0.5.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1_source.changes | 03:13 |
| shadeslayer | ooohhh android update | 03:14 |
| shadeslayer | yay | 03:14 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: should I worry about uploading to bzr? | 03:15 |
| shadeslayer | hm? | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | dput uploads the stuff up? | 03:15 |
| shadeslayer | to launchpad, yes | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: nvm I'll work on it | 03:15 |
| shadeslayer | you don't need to upload anything to bzr | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | when do I see if the package works | 03:16 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: well, I'd recommend first getting everything to build | 03:16 |
| shadeslayer | then you can add the ppa and test the new ktp | 03:16 |
| shadeslayer | you're going to hit issues with the next couple of builds since all the other packages depend on ktp-common-internals 0.5 and you'll need to add the ppa to your pbuilder | 03:17 |
| ahoneybun | yea would ktp stand for KDE Telepathy procal? | 03:17 |
| shadeslayer | KDE Telepathy, yes | 03:17 |
| ahoneybun | still working on the last command | 03:19 |
| ahoneybun | DIST=quantal pdebuild | 03:20 |
| ahoneybun | precise | 03:20 |
| shadeslayer | right :) | 03:21 |
| ahoneybun | yep :) | 03:21 |
| ahoneybun | I'm giving my stuff to 12 am for me to do thi | 03:26 |
| ahoneybun | s | 03:27 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 03:27 |
| ahoneybun | :D | 03:27 |
| ahoneybun | btw is this effecting my system? | 03:27 |
| ahoneybun | oh it at the setting up part | 03:28 |
| shadeslayer | no | 03:28 |
| shadeslayer | everything is done in a clean chroot | 03:28 |
| shadeslayer | so it's a complete system inside your host system | 03:28 |
| ahoneybun | so thats the part with the RAM | 03:31 |
| sreich | uh...what? | 03:31 |
| sreich | not really. it's not in ram at all..or shouldn't be ;) | 03:32 |
| ahoneybun | debuild -S -sa : debuild command not found | 03:32 |
| ahoneybun | nvm | 03:34 |
| ahoneybun | cannot run as root | 03:34 |
| ahoneybun | so gpg error | 03:35 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: the part about the RAM was to get the pbuilder to extract everything in memory | 03:37 |
| shadeslayer | speeds up alot of things | 03:37 |
| shadeslayer | since disk IO is slow | 03:37 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: gpg error | 03:38 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: with debuild -S -sa? | 03:39 |
| ahoneybun | yes | 03:39 |
| shadeslayer | make sure the email address on your gpg key and the email address in debian/changelog match | 03:40 |
| ahoneybun | might need to be honeycuttaaron3@gmail.com | 03:40 |
| ahoneybun | how to change? | 03:40 |
| shadeslayer | the one in the changelog? | 03:40 |
| shadeslayer | just open it in a editor and change it | 03:41 |
| ahoneybun | yes | 03:41 |
| ahoneybun | where is the file | 03:41 |
| shadeslayer | nano debian/changelog | 03:41 |
| ahoneybun | ok so its not that cuz it still fails gpg | 03:42 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: did you change your lp page name? | 03:44 |
| ahoneybun | the name after ~? | 03:44 |
| shadeslayer | right | 03:44 |
| ahoneybun | yes | 03:44 |
| shadeslayer | can haz new one? | 03:44 |
| ahoneybun | dam | 03:45 |
| shadeslayer | ? | 03:45 |
| ahoneybun | aaronhoneycutt | 03:45 |
| shadeslayer | ok hmm | 03:45 |
| ahoneybun | I should not have changed that | 03:46 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: try : debuild -S -sa -k11C2389A | 03:46 |
| ahoneybun | with the original email? | 03:46 |
| shadeslayer | any email, we're specifying debuild that we want to use a specific key now | 03:47 |
| ahoneybun | same error | 03:47 |
| shadeslayer | pastebin | 03:47 |
| ahoneybun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1173089/ | 03:48 |
| shadeslayer | clearsign failed: secret key not available | 03:50 |
| shadeslayer | are you *sure* you have 11C2389A on your machine? | 03:50 |
| shadeslayer | the public as well as the private part | 03:50 |
| ahoneybun | um | 03:51 |
| ahoneybun | not sure | 03:51 |
| ahoneybun | gpg? | 03:51 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: run gpg --list-keys | 03:51 |
| ahoneybun | might not be right | 03:51 |
| shadeslayer | !gpg | 03:51 |
| ubottu | gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts | 03:51 |
| shadeslayer | if you generate a new key, please don't loose it :D | 03:52 |
| shadeslayer | and you'll have to upload it to lp and resign the CoC with the new key | 03:52 |
| ahoneybun | just tell me how to do it in kubuntu as we do not have the password and encr package | 03:53 |
| shadeslayer | ok gtg now | 03:53 |
| ahoneybun | dam | 03:53 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 03:53 |
| ahoneybun | ok dude/woman | 03:54 |
| shadeslayer | you don't have the what? | 03:54 |
| shadeslayer | the former :) | 03:54 |
| ahoneybun | dude? | 03:54 |
| shadeslayer | yus | 03:54 |
| ahoneybun | how do I generate it> | 03:54 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto | 03:54 |
| ahoneybun | and I installed a gnome gpg dam | 03:56 |
| ahoneybun | working | 03:57 |
| jussi | Morning all | 06:05 |
| shadeslayer | hai jussi | 06:27 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: ! | 06:27 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: hows progresson KTP? | 06:28 |
| shadeslayer | just had a sandwich, now looking at how to notify the users of new users coming online/going offline | 06:28 |
| * shadeslayer can't think on a empty stomach | 06:28 | |
| shadeslayer | jussi: password protected jabber rooms are for next week | 06:29 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: aaah, nice :D | 06:30 |
| jussi | grumble grumble | 06:40 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, that's what my stomach will say in another 2 hours | 06:47 |
| * jussi hands shadeslayer a nice lamb gosht. | 06:56 | |
| shadeslayer | ( Assuming that's a non vegetarian dish ) | 06:56 |
| shadeslayer | Dude! I'm vegetarian :P | 06:56 |
| shadeslayer | it's like you don't even know me | 06:56 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 06:56 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: ha! I had forgotten | 06:56 |
| jussi | here, have a nice lentil stew then :D | 06:56 |
| * shadeslayer wants chole bhature :( | 06:56 | |
| jussi | anyone seen Darkwing recently? | 07:53 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: doesn't lintian have desktop file checks? | 08:00 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think so | 08:00 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: he was moving iirc | 08:01 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: ahh still happening | 08:01 |
| shadeslayer | he lost a server during the move I think :( | 08:02 |
| shadeslayer | the movers dropped it | 08:02 |
| jussi | doh, that sucks | 08:02 |
| debfx | it does have some desktop-* tags | 08:02 |
| shadeslayer | I really do doubt it, else it would have picked up a nepomuk desktop file bug | 08:11 |
| vHanda | ? | 08:12 |
| shadeslayer | desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/kde4/nepomukbackup.desktop shadeslayer@solembum | 08:12 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/share/applications/kde4/nepomukbackup.desktop: error: (will be fatal in the future): value "Archiving" in key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" requires another category to be present among the following categories: Utility | 08:12 |
| shadeslayer | you can also run for FILE in *.desktop; do desktop-file-validate $FILE; done : in /usr/share/applications/kde4/ | 08:14 |
| shadeslayer | and there's a whole bunch of issues in desktop files ;) | 08:14 |
| shadeslayer | and almost all of them to do with bluedevil :P | 08:15 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: I fixed that issue | 08:33 |
| vHanda | I think the gentoo guys contacted me yesterday | 08:33 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: what's up with translations? | 08:39 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: the kdelibs4.mo misses some strings that i'm pretty sure that were there in what we released | 08:39 |
| tsdgeos | for catalan | 08:39 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: in 12.10? | 08:42 |
| tsdgeos | 12.04 | 08:42 |
| Riddell | ok that'll be launchpad | 08:43 |
| Riddell | I'll take a look in a bit | 08:43 |
| tsdgeos | the missing string is "&Move" | 08:43 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: I know, I was merely pointing out to debfx that our tools should validate .desktop files | 09:46 |
| shadeslayer | so we can catch these issues earlier | 09:46 |
| debfx | well I suggest improving the checks in lintian if you feel there is something missing | 09:57 |
| debfx | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455740 | 09:57 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 455740 in lintian "[checks/menu-format] should use desktop-file-validate" [Wishlist,Open] | 09:57 |
| debfx | "The Related Categories column lists one or more categories that are suggested to be used in conjunction with the Additional Category." | 09:59 |
| debfx | "are suggested" is very different from "error: (will be fatal in the future)" | 10:00 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: plz2upload ktp | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | "(since people aren't following the standard)" | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | what use is the standard then | 10:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: where from? | 10:24 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | Argh | 10:34 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: well, if the seed business is still available then I'm up for it | 10:35 |
| Quintasan | my ISP has been giving me hell for the past week | 10:35 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: missed your chance I'm afraid | 10:38 |
| Quintasan | Ah, can't help it | 10:38 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: although you could review any changes to ubuntu seeds in quantal and see if there's any we should get | 10:39 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: did you find a way to start helping? | 10:41 |
| === 65MAA696K is now known as DF_Meyer | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly | 10:49 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it's up! | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | oh? | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | I don't see it | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | did you just upload it? | 10:53 |
| Riddell | yep | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | well that was quick | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | did you fix the versioning? :P | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | you always forget that :) | 10:54 |
| Riddell | beta 1 freeze tomorrow,I wonder if there's anything else we want in | 10:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I removed the ~ppas | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | cool :D | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ktp-debugger will land in binary NEW | 10:55 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| apachelogger | Riddell: isn't bug 1042801 a work item rather than a bug? | 11:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1042801 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "confirm gtk theming" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042801 | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | ohai apachelogger | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | lo | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bug 1028545 ... there is no commit in bzr it seems | 11:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1028545 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "ad-block off by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028545 | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: since you're looking at bugs, could you forward bug 964676 to upstream? | 11:03 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 964676 could not be found | 11:03 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: bug 1042801 is more me making a todo list, so debateable where it should go, but better than irc channel topic :) | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1042801 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "confirm gtk theming" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042801 | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 964676 does not exist the bot sez :P | 11:04 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no commit in bzr? that might explain something | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | because it's private :P | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | the bot be stupid | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | stupid bot | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | ubottu: asasda | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about asasda | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | see | 11:04 |
| shadeslayer | google knows about asasda :P | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, if it is a todo for you then I suggest assigning it directly and settign to work in progress ;) | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | and don't mock my channel todos | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | way more efficient than the eternal list in korganizer | 11:05 |
| Riddell | good idea | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: we do usually ask the reports to do so | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | also " I don't know" | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't think the reporter will have enough motivation to report upstream | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | as a description somewhat suggests that forwarding is pointless :S | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | and yes, I sawn that :P | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | *saw | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | they released 2.5 didn't they? | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | so I am not sure they care about a crash in a 2.4 prerelease that the reporter does not even know how he triggered | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: calligra upstream told me to forward patch | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | I'm just relaying that info | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | we do not have a patch | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | s/patch/stacktrace | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | fun | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | there is calligra* | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | but there is kexi | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | all hail the user friendly bugzilla | 11:11 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: and why is the bug private? | 11:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no idea, apport probably thought it was a good idea | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | btw | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: when do we kick that unmaintained piece of lovelyness? | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | yeah? | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/pu42E.png < ktp-text-ui | 11:14 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: which? | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | now you can browse the google when using ktp-text-ui \o/ | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: apport-kde | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | failed to build? :O | 11:15 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: that's...useful? | 11:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: needs investigating right enough | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hehe :P | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Now we a new candidate for a default browser instead of rekonq | 11:16 |
| Quintasan | :P | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | rofl | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | can't browse though :) | 11:17 |
| shadeslayer | you need specially crafted url's to do that | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that text-ui crap is broken alright | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah, we have someone working on getting patches in :) | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | fairly trivial patch though, just needs some url escaping and properly formed html | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | clearly this is all going to fall apart so we should hold on to youbuntuoo's gaming stuff and then sell it as a unique feature to kubuntu | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | Kubuntu 12.10 - Return of the Heisenbug | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | or - The Heisenbug Strikes Back | 11:20 |
| Riddell | hum live image today has a funny default plasma setup | 12:13 |
| Riddell | rekonq and dolphin in the panel and no folderview | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: check if kubuntu-default-settings are installed | 12:55 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it is | 12:55 |
| * jussi should learn to shut up... | 12:55 | |
| shadeslayer | oh hmm | 12:55 |
| Riddell | jussi: please don't! | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | then that's interesting | 12:55 |
| Riddell | mparillo: that Roadmap bug you did, there will be dozens of kubuntu wiki pages that aren't updated | 15:10 |
| Riddell | that's a large job in itself that nobody has taken on | 15:10 |
| Riddell | update or removed | 15:10 |
| mparillo | Riddell: I checked, and all my links go to reasonable pages (though I did not look at them *TOO* closely). | 15:11 |
| mparillo | One of them I was not too happy with (it seemed to be an overall roadmap rather than a release roadmap). I can check on which one, but since it was not current, I still figured it was better than nothing. | 15:12 |
| mparillo | Riddell: This is the one I thought was a little ugly: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 15:13 |
| mparillo | It was the first one that had a / between the release name and the ReleaseSchedule. | 15:14 |
| mparillo | But, the next one (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule) looked much cleaner. | 15:15 |
| Riddell | mparillo: best not touch that, it's used all over ubuntu | 15:15 |
| mparillo | Right. I tried to address the bug in the lightest, most consistant way possible. | 15:15 |
| Riddell | mparillo: mind that wiki.kubuntu.org is the same wiki as wiki.ubuntu.com , kubuntu pages you can do what you like on, other parts of ubuntu it's best to check with that team if it doesn't look abandoned | 15:16 |
| mparillo | . | 15:17 |
| mparillo | Understood. I will stick to Kubuntu, and have been trying to focus on raised bugs rather than random improvements. | 15:18 |
| mparillo | I do have a question though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/1042488 It seems as if I add a / to a URL, I get a different page. | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1042488 in Kubuntu Website "Two versions of Support Site" [Low,New] | 15:18 |
| Riddell | looks just the same to me | 15:19 |
| Riddell | what's different? | 15:20 |
| mparillo | The one with the / goes to /support/community (which does not exist), while the one without goes to /community which does. | 15:22 |
| Riddell | I don't get it, /support and /support/ go to a page with "Help and Support" "Access Free Documentation" etc | 15:25 |
| Riddell | /community goes to "Whether you're an experienced Linux developer..." | 15:25 |
| Riddell | nothing points to /support/community | 15:25 |
| Riddell | which of course doesn't exist | 15:26 |
| mparillo | Hmm, not for me. So you enter: http://www.kubuntu.org/support/ in the rekonq URL bar. | 15:26 |
| mparillo | And click on Community page | 15:27 |
| mparillo | And you get the regular community page? I do not. I get /support/community (which does not exist). | 15:27 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | works fine here | 15:28 |
| Riddell | right, both top "Community" and right side "Community" links are to http://www.kubuntu.org/community | 15:28 |
| mparillo | I need to get better at writing bugs. I was clicking on community in the area here: A range of free support options are also available from the Kubuntu Community, including forums, IRC channel and mailing list. There is also multi-language community support. More information can be found in our Community page. | 15:29 |
| mparillo | In the paragraph of text, there is an HREF right before the period. | 15:30 |
| yofel | for me, that links to http://www.kubuntu.org/community | 15:31 |
| mparillo | yofel: When you fire up http://www.kubuntu.org/support/ in the rekonq URL bar? | 15:31 |
| yofel | OH | 15:31 |
| mparillo | With the trailing / ? Linking from the middle paragraph of text? | 15:31 |
| yofel | drupal bug? | 15:32 |
| yofel | mparillo: fixed by adding a leading slash in the href | 15:35 |
| * yofel wonders where else this might happen | 15:36 | |
| yofel | mparillo: are the icon labels on the feature tour page misaligned for you too? | 15:38 |
| mparillo | yofel: Wow, that was fast. I will close the bug. Would you be able to let me know what the before and after was on the href? | 15:39 |
| yofel | before: href="community" - after: href="/community" so it searches based on the document root and not current location | 15:41 |
| mparillo | yofel: Thank you. I have closed the bug. The icons are games, graphics, internet, multi-media, and office? | 15:42 |
| yofel | right | 15:43 |
| yofel | uh, great | 15:43 |
| yofel | in firefox the text is too low, in rekonq it's too high @_@ | 15:43 |
| mparillo | Too high for me (rekonq). Need me to post a screenshot? | 15:44 |
| yofel | nah, we should see the same | 15:44 |
| yofel | chromium renders it like rekonq (webkit I guess) | 15:45 |
| yofel | is that page still hard-coded PHP? | 15:45 |
| mparillo | yofel: I tried to paste it, but the KDE Pastebin thought it was spam. | 15:49 |
| yofel | lol | 15:49 |
| mparillo | The chunk I was trying to paste was a misture of raw HTML, and drupal_get_path commands. | 15:50 |
| === keffie_jayx is now known as effiejayx | ||
| Quintasan | Yay | 16:19 |
| Quintasan | It's alive | 16:19 |
| yofel | hey Quintasan | 16:19 |
| Quintasan | yofel: sup | 16:20 |
| yofel | was trying to fix that alignment we were talking above ^ - but I totally fail at CSS | 16:20 |
| Quintasan | ha ha | 16:21 |
| Quintasan | So do I | 16:21 |
| Quintasan | Whenever I touch it, it displays in a different manner on every possible browser | 16:22 |
| yofel | well, that's what we currently have, so it at least can't get worse | 16:22 |
| Quintasan | Ha | 16:22 |
| yofel | great, I found a solution but that requires editing the PHP file -.- | 16:28 |
| yofel | as the icons don't have a class/id | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | >mfw I'm not getting anywhere with maliit and we are past feature freeze | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | I did nothing this cycle | 16:29 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what's up with malitt? | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'm trying to figure out whether I'm doing it right according to the policy | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: It builds but god knows if it's what we can put into universe and if it's actually what upstream wanted | 16:30 |
| Riddell | well you have 24 hours! | 16:31 |
| Quintasan | That sounds so...motivating | 16:31 |
| Riddell | what makes you think it isn't? | 16:31 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Overall I'm not sure, first time packaging a library that has over 9000 resulting packages when done according to upstream | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | Plus I'm worried about dependencies | 16:32 |
| Riddell | um really? | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | not really over 9000 but I've usually been doing some minor stuff like libfoo0 and a dev package | 16:33 |
| Quintasan | and now I have like, 5 packages and 3 -dev packages | 16:33 |
| Quintasan | Dunno if the dependecies will work | 16:33 |
| Quintasan | Gotta test it in Quantal VM | 16:33 |
| Riddell | kde4libs splits up the libraries but puts all headers into one -dev | 16:34 |
| Riddell | you can also put all files into one package if nothing uses the libraries like libraries | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: https://wiki.maliit.org/PackagingGuidelines | 16:38 |
| Quintasan | Here is how upstream prefers it :D | 16:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: "Drop not working kwallet stub file" what was up with that (in k-d-s)? | 16:40 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: an upstream who knows about packaging is a rare beast :) | 16:41 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Hmm | 16:41 |
| Quintasan | I still need to write postinst postrm scripts | 16:41 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what are they needed for? | 16:42 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: According to upstream those gconf schemas have to be registered and deregisted | 16:42 |
| Riddell | gconf? ug | 16:43 |
| Riddell | well there's probably some magic dh_gconf which handles that for you? | 16:43 |
| Riddell | try asking in #ubuntu-desktop | 16:43 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Turns out I don't have to do anything | 16:51 |
| Riddell | magic | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/libim-maliit.so | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | Any ideas how to install those? | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | x64_64 will be obviously substitued by arch | 16:59 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: you mean what to put in the .install file? | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | Yeah | 16:59 |
| Riddell | usr/lib/*/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/libim-maliit.so | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 16:59 |
| * yofel curses different browsers with different CSS support | 17:10 | |
| Quintasan | YES | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | MORE SPLITTING | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | splitting is the way! | 17:12 |
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| genii-around | Bluetooth seems to be permanently on. | 18:29 |
| DF_Meyer_ | genii-around: Bluetooth will be on if Wifi is on with some devices (I know for many new Intel devices this holds true.) There is a workaround but its not really worth the effort, Bluetooth hardly eats battery while on so don't stress about it | 18:33 |
| genii-around | One of my coworkers keeps sending his phone photos to my computer instead of his. | 18:34 |
| highvoltage | genii-around: what kind of laptop do you have? | 18:35 |
| genii-around | highvoltage: Aspire 8730 | 18:38 |
| genii-around | Maybe I'll just kill bluetoothd or something. | 18:40 |
| claydoh | clayd | 20:03 |
| claydoh | erp derp | 20:04 |
| yofel | genii-around: tried to shut it off with rfkill? | 20:46 |
| genii-around | yofel: No, I just ended up shutting down bluetoothd for the time being. | 20:47 |
| === keffie_jayx is now known as effiejayx | ||
| apachelogger | Riddell: overriding user specific kwl with one in kds is defunct and a rather silly way to make it less intrusive for the user | 23:16 |
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