[03:39] <rottingdead> Hallo hello.
[04:31] <IdleOne> heya Jordan_U. Only us smart people in here :)
[04:32] <subcool> i am having issues with my network manager, i was told to upgrade to plasma nm- but i dont know what that is.. lil assistance please..
[04:32] <IdleOne> plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[04:33] <IdleOne> Please also remember that attitude and polite language are greatly appreciated.
[05:14] <subcool> i have installed that, and do not see my network manager icon on my task bar
[05:15] <almoxarife> that?
[05:16] <subcool> plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[05:17] <almoxarife> subcool: logged out since installing the widget?
[05:22] <subcool> almoxarife, rebooted
[05:22] <subcool> but ill do it again -
[05:22] <subcool> i havent uninstall the old network manager though- in fear i was given bad advice and suffer no internet to fix it
[05:22] <almoxarife> subcool: no need, should have worked the first time
[05:23] <almoxarife> subcool: insure 'networkmanager' is installed, do uninstall the other
[05:24] <subcool> wait what? i have network manager - and plasma widget network manager.. - do i have to uninstall network manager?
[05:24] <almoxarife> subcool: no
[05:24] <almoxarife> subcool: you brought up 'old' network manager
[05:31] <subcool> ok- well, ill reboot again- but im pretty lost.
[05:32] <subcool> and why isnt my KDE updating... suppsedly im running 4.4. - but.. i update regularly..
[05:34] <almoxarife> subcool: what distro?
[05:34] <Obsidian1723> subcool: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:35] <subcool> almoxarife, ubuntu kde -
[05:35] <subcool> Obsidian1723, thats what i do regularly
[05:35] <almoxarife> subcool: what Obsidian1723 said
[05:35] <Obsidian1723> should be at the latest then
[05:35] <subcool> ??
[05:35] <subcool> i didnt even know until it was mentioned in a bug report..
[05:36] <Obsidian1723> I run Kubuntu 12.04.1LTS 64-bit and I'm at KDE 4.9.0.0
[05:37] <Obsidian1723> thats the latest stable.
[05:37] <Obsidian1723> Open up Dolphin, go to Help, then About KDE
[05:37] <subcool> i dled 12.04 and am running it on another laptop- but i dont like it. Its buggy a bit, and it USB boot up is blind..
[05:37] <Obsidian1723> You'll see the version there fpor it
[05:38] <subcool> 4.4.5
[05:38] <Obsidian1723> You running Kubuntu 12.04.1LTS?
[05:38] <Obsidian1723> lsb_release -a  what does that show you?
[05:39] <subcool> on this laptop im running 11.04
[05:39] <Obsidian1723> ah thats why.
[05:39] <Obsidian1723> Non-LTS
[05:39] <subcool> because?
[05:39] <subcool> everytime i upgrade - i get more bugs.
[05:39] <Obsidian1723> LTS is ultimately sourced from debian-testing where as the Non-LTS from debian-unstable
[05:39] <subcool> i upgraded on my 3rd laptop,  - and something happen.. now its hoesd
[05:39] <Obsidian1723> yeah, you are running unstable versions of Ubuntu
[05:40] <subcool> oh- im running 10.04
[05:40] <subcool> well, 10.04.4 lts
[05:40] <Obsidian1723> Debian goes like this... debian-unstable --> debian-testing --> debian-stable in that order, those are the 3 repos. Since Ubuntu is a fork of Debian, it has that code lineage.
[05:41] <Obsidian1723> Well, 10,04LTS is pretty much EOL in a few months.
[05:41] <subcool> i got 12.04.4 lts- but its buggy
[05:41] <Obsidian1723> its not as updated/maintained like 12/.04 is.
[05:41] <subcool> i thougth this laptop was on 1104
[05:41] <Obsidian1723> 12.04 32 or 64 bit?
[05:41] <subcool> which explains a lil..
[05:41] <subcool>  both
[05:41] <Obsidian1723> could be your hardware.. that happens.
[05:42] <subcool> eh- on my one laptop i can see that..
[05:42] <Obsidian1723> but did you try 12.04 or 12.04.1?
[05:42] <subcool> but- not the other two..
[05:42] <Obsidian1723> .1 just came out.
[05:42] <subcool> idk.. i've been deleting them..
[05:42] <subcool> i use usbflash- and it boot of fed
[05:42] <subcool> f'ed
[05:42] <Obsidian1723> try 12.04.1
[05:42] <subcool> i get a lil gray box,
[05:42] <Obsidian1723> anyway, late and I gotta go to bed.
[05:42] <Obsidian1723> good luck with it.
[05:42] <subcool> no menu- and i have to just keep pressing enter till it boots
[05:43] <subcool> k- thanks
[05:43] <subcool> ill see what i can do
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> that sounds like x
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> try that
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> or
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde4
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> or both, but x first.
[05:43] <subcool> thats for my 12.04 flash i just got tried using
[05:43] <Obsidian1723> night.
[05:44] <subcool> k- thanks.
[06:08] <RadSurfer> How do I changed the "PC Name / Network name" in Ku 14.x ?
[06:09] <RadSurfer> How do I change the "PC Name / Network name" in Ku 14.x ?
[06:11] <jussi> RadSurfer: first, there is no Kubuntu 14.x
[06:11] <jussi> current version is 12.04
[06:11] <hateball> I'm not sure there's a GUI way to change /etc/hostname
[06:11] <RadSurfer> this latest version... sorry about that :)
[06:12] <RadSurfer> some1 may have been talking about Fedora 14, or something ;-)
[06:12] <RadSurfer> I need to change PC_Name properly...
[06:13] <jussi> RadSurfer: and you are certain you are on kubuntu
[06:13] <RadSurfer> uname?
[06:13] <RadSurfer> 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46.... etc etc
[06:14] <jussi> ok
[06:14] <RadSurfer> haha
[06:15] <jussi> RadSurfer: I dont care really, you can sort it yourself, but you seemcertain (although uname isnt really helpful)
[06:15] <jussi> you could run "lsb_release -a" to double check though
[06:16] <RadSurfer> why does 'gksu dolphin' fail?
[06:16] <jussi> RadSurfer: so, if you are comfortable with the commandline, here is an answer for you :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899415
[06:16] <jussi> RadSurfer: because gksu is for gtk apps
[06:17] <jussi> use kdesudo
[06:17] <RadSurfer> now you tell me.
[06:17] <RadSurfer> does that work in previous 10.04 LTS?
[06:17] <jussi> should as far  as I know
[06:18] <RadSurfer> Okie
[06:22] <RadSurfer> Ok... heres a toughie, lol, how do I make this new Computer_Name take effect?
[06:22] <RadSurfer> necessary to reboot?
[06:23] <Guest81003> Hi
[06:24] <RadSurfer> restarting... hope this works :-)
[06:24] <mr-rich> kununtu 12.04. Amarok 2.5.0. full rescan does not display my  networked iTunes collection. Worked in 2.4.x ... any ideas?
[06:25] <RadSurfer> 12.04 sure boots up weird... video display wise...
[06:25] <Guest81003> I have a plasma netbook crash problem after hibernation. Can somebody help me?
[06:25] <hanslanda> hello there! I want to change from KDE to GNOME on Kubuntu...anyone can help me?
[06:26] <mr-rich> hanslanda: switch to regular Ununtu ...
[06:26] <mr-rich> er ...
[06:27] <mr-rich> Ubuntu ...
[06:27] <jussi> hanslanda: install the package ubuntu-desktop
[06:28] <RadSurfer> excellent! That was EASY! (changing PC_Name) Thanks!
[06:28] <jussi> RadSurfer: :)
[06:28] <RadSurfer> see now that making a folder SHARED automatically installs/configures Samba, apparently!
[06:28] <RadSurfer> now that PC_name won't conflict, I can test tit
[06:29] <RadSurfer> I used to just manually install packages, then it would work automatically.
[06:31] <Guest81003> Can someone guide me to proper help for KDE plasma crash on netbook during hibernation process?
[06:31] <RadSurfer> I hate this wallet crap
[06:34] <RadSurfer> this isn't making sense to me: What does it expect for "authorization code" to access a folder on that machine?
[06:34] <RadSurfer> I have guest access enabled
[06:34] <RadSurfer> full-access to folder in question
[06:34] <RadSurfer> whats wrong?
[06:34] <hanslanda> jussi, mr-rich , ok..i will try ubuntu...for the gnome...but i want to know how can i update Xorg? Some people said to me that its dangerous to update Xorg
[06:35] <RadSurfer> this used to work fine for me in 10.04
[06:35] <mr-rich> hanslanda: why do you need to update Xorg?
[06:36] <ram_> Hi there
[06:36] <ram_> Can someone guide me to proper help for KDE plasma crash on netbook during hibernation process?
[06:37] <hanslanda> mr-rich, because the default xorg version has a bug...in some 3D games my mouse scroll button doesnt work...and i read in forums that i have to update xorg server
[06:38] <RadSurfer> does anyone understand what this "Authorization Dialog" is expecting?
[06:40] <mr-rich> hanslanda: Then you need to wait until (k)ubuntu updates Xorg. Yes, replacing Xorg from outside sources is VERY DANGEROUS ...
[06:40] <RadSurfer> I have no idea what this sharing operation expects from "Authorization Dialog" on remote Pc... anyone?
[06:41] <mr-rich> hanslanda: unless you really really know what your are doing.
[06:42] <hanslanda> wait until kubuntu updates Xorg? So i need to wait for the next and next distro update?
[06:42] <hanslanda> mr-rich, wait until kubuntu updates Xorg? So i need to wait for the next and next distro update?
[06:43] <mr-rich> hanslanda: Not necessaraly(sp?) ... If there are known bugs in Xorg, then (k)ubuntu will eventually update them ...
[06:44] <Wizard> Good morning.
[06:45] <RadSurfer> Don't suppose anyone understands whats expected with file sharing under 12.04 please?
[06:47] <hanslanda> mr-rich, thanks for the help.. i will try ubuntu anyway.. see ya man!
[06:48] <RadSurfer> Grrr....
[06:48] <RadSurfer> it can excess 10.04 just fine, but I can't access 12.04 at all???
[06:48] <almoxarife> RadSurfer: explain
[06:49] <RadSurfer> I installed 12.04. I used dolphin to attempt to enable file-sharing. It installed Samba, and claimed to configure it
[06:49] <RadSurfer> I'm trying to now access that Folder on another PC <via lan>
[06:49] <RadSurfer> authorization box appears, but won't accept anything!
[06:49] <RadSurfer> What am I overlooking?
[06:50] <almoxarife> RadSurfer: authorizing sharing on 12.04?
[06:50] <RadSurfer> evidently
[06:50] <RadSurfer> Remote PC displays Authorization box....
[06:50] <RadSurfer> but nothing I type in works to make a connection
[06:51] <RadSurfer> I do see that Folder!  I just can not TRANSFER to it
[06:51] <RadSurfer> so I see my Shared folders; I can't read/write
[06:56] <RadSurfer> something is incomplete in what Dolphin does to install/configure samba?
[06:56] <almoxarife> RadSurfer: in 12.4 set a folder to share
[06:56] <RadSurfer> I tried to do that via Dolphin! and it went out downloaded samba, installed it, apparently, and "configured it"
[06:56] <RadSurfer> What else?
[06:56] <RadSurfer> theres obviously more involved
[06:56] <RadSurfer> presently, problem is this: It is not allowing me Read/Write access from remote pc
[07:01] <RadSurfer> can someone answer me this perhaps:
[07:01] <RadSurfer> are da same packages used as what 10.04 installs?
[07:02] <RadSurfer> I could just manually install those & see what happens
[07:02] <RadSurfer> crap! says all that stuff IS installed! WAH!
[07:13] <hateball> RadSurfer: Are you trying to share files between two Linux machines?
[07:13] <RadSurfer> Yes.
[07:13] <RadSurfer> 12.04 with 10.04
[07:13] <hateball> RadSurfer: May I ask why you're using SAMBA to do this?
[07:14] <RadSurfer> naturally.
[07:14] <hateball> Rather than NFS or SSH, which are much easier to work with
[07:14] <RadSurfer> normally, Samba works just fine! It has in 10.04
[07:15] <RadSurfer> Change PC_Name via etc/hostname, wouldn't be problem, eh?
[07:16] <RadSurfer> it should be something simple! surprised no1 knows
[07:16] <hateball> You may have to change it in /etc/hosts as well. Then I don't recall if the smb-configs point to any specific hostname
[07:17] <RadSurfer> I did change both. then rebooted
[07:17] <hateball> I'm pretty sure most people just use SSH. But someone who knows samba may come around later
[07:17] <RadSurfer> 10.04 interface made more sense
[07:18] <RadSurfer> where are all of the shares listed?
[07:19] <RadSurfer> its like its a security issue of some kind... makes no sense tho
[07:20] <RadSurfer> something on 12.04 side won't create this access from remote PC for some reason!
[07:22] <RadSurfer> /etc/samba has a lot less files in it...
[07:22] <RadSurfer> sambausers isn't being created
[07:22] <RadSurfer> whats up with that?
[07:23] <kdenow> How do I install the very latest stable KDE release on Ubuntu?
[07:23] <kdenow> That is, 4.9.
[07:24] <Wizard> I think there is a ppa with it.
[07:24] <kdenow> http://www.fandigital.com/2012/08/install-latest-kde-in-ubuntu-kubuntu.html
[07:24] <Wizard> But beware of ppas.
[07:24] <kdenow> I followed the instructions here.
[07:24] <kdenow> But I don't get anything newer than 4.8.90.
[07:30] <Wizard> pkg -l | grep kdelibs
[07:30] <Wizard> Ah, he quit.
[07:31] <RadSurfer> I can't believe with 265 total users in here, no1 has a clue whats going on here!
[07:34] <RadSurfer> I made changes to terminal, and those settings didn't stay either. Hmm.
[07:35] <RadSurfer> whoops. lol
[07:35] <Wizard> RadSurfer: Most people idle.
[07:35] <Wizard> RadSurfer: I bet more than half don't use Kubuntu.
[07:35] <Wizard> What's your problem, btw, RadSurfer?
[07:36] <RadSurfer> couldn't you scroll up and read please?
[07:37] <RadSurfer> Trying to get Samba/file sharing to work. I can see remote shares, but can't access it
[07:38] <RadSurfer> I can see staying with 10.04 LTS makes more sense for now.
[07:38] <RadSurfer> I don't recall having to do anything special; things just work.
[07:39] <RadSurfer> "access denied to smb://xxxxx.local/"
[07:39] <Wizard> Oh my..
[07:40] <RadSurfer> yes? something silly is it?
[07:40] <Wizard> No, I've never got this crap working :(
[07:40] <RadSurfer> works perfectly in 10.04 LTS
[07:40] <Wizard> Hmm.
[07:41] <Wizard> Are there any informations in system log or dmesg?
[07:41] <RadSurfer> for some reason 12.x isn't creating a smbusers file
[07:41] <Wizard> Hmm
[07:41] <Wizard> Sorry, but I'm to lame in smb to help you :/
[09:00] <RadSurfer> too many things not working properly in 12.x...  compared to 10.x
[09:01] <RadSurfer> can I still download 11.x?
[09:02] <Riddell> RadSurfer: yep http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[09:02] <Riddell> RadSurfer: what's not working?
[09:02] <RadSurfer> can't figure out how to access my Folder-shares in 12.x
[09:02] <RadSurfer> I see remote shares, I have no write-permission
[09:03] <RadSurfer> remote PC trying to access 12.0 installation
[09:03] <RadSurfer> tried installing system-config-samba, and that didn't work
[09:04] <RadSurfer> used to use that way back in ancient Centos days, lol
[09:04] <RadSurfer> its not worth my time any longer, other issues are also rather disappointing...
[09:05] <hateball> I just cant understand why promptly wanted to use SMB instead of NFS or SSH when he was sharing between Linux only...
[09:06] <hateball> But that's just how it goes for some people I guess
[09:15] <Wizard> hateball: People never learn.
[09:42] <Guest42334> wassup?
[10:44] <osinclair> on 12.40 w KDE 4.9 I am getting akonadi nepomuk feeder crash on shutdown - other seeing this?
[10:44] <65MAA696K> Nope
[10:46] <osinclair> thanks - seems I have to figure out what went wrong w my config
[10:51] <vercingetorige> hi guys, i'm in trouble trying to migrate from evolution to kmail. When I import messagges, kmail create a new directory for each message
[10:51] <vercingetorige> is there a way to tell kmail import all messages in the selected directory without creating others?
[11:00] <vercingetorige> no one knows?
[11:01] <Wizard> vercingetorige: ?
[11:02] <Wizard> Ah, I don't know :)
[11:02] <vercingetorige> :(
[11:06] <Wizard> But wait, you mean importing only one IMAP directory?
[11:07] <vercingetorige> i'm trying to import only sent messages
[11:08] <vercingetorige> selecting .local/share/.Sent
[11:08] <Wizard> Uh, then I don't know how to do this.
[11:09] <DF_Meyer_> Which version of kmail are you using? 4.9 has import capabilities.
[11:09] <vercingetorige> i'm using kubuntu 12.04
[11:10] <Wizard> Than it's 4.8.something.
[11:10] <vercingetorige> yes, 4.8.2
[11:12] <DF_Meyer_> If you install the backports ppa then you can get 4.9 which is more stable, faster and has an import filter. The catch is that you might get instability elsewhere. It will update your entire kde ecosystem to 4.9
[11:13] <vercingetorige> it is my pc at work, can't do that
[11:16] <DF_Meyer_> Ah yeah, then you can't. I'll keep chatting on the kde channel with you.
[11:23] <Guest22390> hello
[11:23] <Wizard> Hi Guest22390.
[11:24] <Guest22390> i tried to install kubuntu 12.04.1 to hd from unetbootin in windows
[11:24] <Guest22390> i did this many times and it worked
[11:24] <Guest22390> this time, i installed sucesfully, and when i get at grub menu it only shows my windows install and memory test
[11:24] <Guest22390> i cant boot kubuntu
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:32] <Obsidian1723> hi BluesKaj
[11:33] <BluesKaj> hi Obsidian1723
[11:33] <Obsidian1723> how ya doing this morning?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Obsidian1723:  fine thanks , and you ?
[11:39] <Obsidian1723> doing good actually...
[11:40] <Obsidian1723> just working on my iptables script and updating my server.
[11:58] <Wizard> Morning?
[11:58] <Wizard> It's 2pm ;P
[12:33] <excognac> hi all. I recently had a total crash of plasma-desktop, so i replaced /hume/user/.kde with default. The desktop environment keeps deing buggy, slow and crasy with default settings. Any advoce on how to set it up properly?
[12:33] <excognac> *being *home
[12:39] <Wizard> excognac: Works stable on all my PCs..
[12:39] <Wizard> excognac: Do you have any specific hardware or something like this?
[12:40] <excognac> not really
[12:41] <excognac> it's a laptop, proc i3 2310M,4gb Ram, intel HD graphics 3000
[12:42] <excognac> see above
[12:47] <dsan> Hey, anyone got a recommendation for me to build a simple GUI simillar to VB?
[12:50] <jussi> dsan: For kubuntu?
[12:51] <jussi> dsan: do it in QML, and you can use Kdevelop as your IDE.
[12:52] <dsan> jussi: yes for Kubuntu. Just wana have a simple drag and drop solution for command buttons etc.
[12:53] <jussi> dsan: yeah, sounds like a QML thing
[12:53] <Riddell> jussi: mm really?  it has no widgets
[12:53] <Riddell> try qtcreator which has good qtdesigner integration
[12:53] <jussi> Riddell: ok, maybe Im talking through my butt then, please advise better
[12:53]  * jussi blushes
[12:54] <dsan> jussy: Do I have to integrate something like wxWidgets or Qt?
[12:55] <Riddell> dsan: qt is the widget set used in kde/kubuntu
[12:55] <jussi> dsan: talk to Riddell :D
[12:55] <dsan> just wana do a simple calculater thing. in VB it would take me about an hour. so thats what I'm lokking for
[12:56] <dsan> no big configuration and stuff
[12:57] <Riddell> dsan: got a preferred language?
[12:58] <dsan> c++
[12:59] <Riddell> dsan: try qtcreator then
[13:00] <dsan> thank you guys
[13:21] <dsan> Riddell: any idea why i can't click on 'Design'?
[13:27] <Wizard> dsan: It's disabled?
[15:05] <G__81> i am trying to install kubuntu-desktop and it gets installed fine and then the problems start coming in with Alt+Tab behavior
[15:05] <G__81> i am using 12.04
[15:05] <G__81> i dont know whether its a known issue
[15:06] <G__81> the issue is when i do alt+tab the windows in the taskbar get minimized on top of one another
[15:06] <G__81> i cannot even read whats written on the taskbar so when i press Alt+tab i can see all windows but when i want to go to a window straight i cannot. Its like running gnome-3
[15:06] <G__81> huh....
[15:09] <Peace-> G__81: ?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> G__81, alt-tab isn't familiar to me , but all it does here is shrink the desktop , hide the panel and darken everything
[15:11] <Peace-> ...
[15:12] <szal> BluesKaj: Alt+Tab is supposed to switch windows
[15:14] <markit> hi, 12.04... previous releases with libdvdread4 installed libdvdcss2, now seems no more the case
[15:14] <Peace-> i was not wrong the guy had the problem when he has a lots of window opened
[15:15] <markit> is /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh still valid?
[15:15] <markit> ciao Peace- :)
[15:15] <Peace-> markit: hi
[15:15] <Peace-> markit: btw i asked to a developer your prolbem
[15:15] <Peace-> markit: your problem with ffmpeg is due to your cpu
[15:15] <BluesKaj> szal, ok , alt tab seems to work here , altho i prefer the virtual desktops
[15:16] <Peace-> markit: ffmpeg it's too heavy , you should try the same lines but without full screen
[15:16] <Peace-> markit: try with 640 or maybe better 320x240 you will see that libvpx and libvorbis will work
[15:17] <markit> Peace-: I have a tons of problems, can we chat privately and you remind me which one specific?
[15:17] <Peace-> markit: sure
[15:20] <markit> I've solved with dvd issue, my fault, is the script that installs that package
[16:04] <jose___> HI everybody
[16:05] <jose___> any girl here?
[16:05] <tsimpson> this is a technical support channel for Kubuntu
[17:47] <Wizard> LOL
[17:47] <Wizard> Good evening.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> good afternoon
[17:49] <Wizard> Seems I can't change "window switcher"
[17:50] <Wizard> Whatever I set in systemsettings - window miniatures with app icons in corner is being activated on alt+tab
[17:51] <Wizard> (12.04, without any KDE ppas)
[17:55] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[17:57] <BluesKaj> xyz_, no texting in here please , this isn't an IM chat ...use rela words
[17:57] <BluesKaj> real words :)
[17:57] <xyz_> <<<<****^& 0h 0k4y btw fu&^****>>>>
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Wizard, are you using the KB shortcuts
[17:59] <BluesKaj> !langauge | xyz_
[18:00] <xyz_> Sorry
[18:00] <xyz_> Very sorry
[18:00] <xyz_> lol
[18:00] <xyz_> Can I ask a question?
[18:00] <Wizard> Shoot..
[18:00] <Wizard> !ask
[18:01] <xyz_> !patience
[18:01] <Wizard> BluesKaj: Yes..
[18:01] <Wizard> xyz_: Just ask that question already :/
[18:01] <xyz_> I find KDE complicated, like there's too much too it. Does it take a while to learn/get usedto?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !KDE
[18:02] <xyz_> I mean, it's really cool, just I've had no luck to it
[18:02] <Wizard> Do you have any particular problems or these are just complaints? :P
[18:02] <BluesKaj> kde is very configurable , just need some patience
[18:03] <xyz_> No problems, just, it's like it's too configurable
[18:03] <Wizard> KDE doesn't require much learning curve. It is a powerful set of tools and you know.. You need some time to used to it.
[18:03] <xyz_> And gets confusing
[18:04] <Wizard> xyz_: Too configurable? Nobody forces you to touch anything :P
[18:04] <xyz_> Wizard: Do you reckon I'll have no problems on a dual core 1GHz CPU/
[18:04] <Wizard> And if it comes about the second - I agree.
[18:04] <Wizard> I have no problems on 1 core 1,5GHz G4.
[18:05] <BluesKaj> xyz_, confusing , how ?
[18:05] <Wizard> KDE takes while to load.. (this is a major issue, in my opinion).
[18:05] <Wizard> BluesKaj: KDE is very inconsistent if it comes to UI design.
[18:05] <xyz_> I will try it again then, it's just so much gadgets, graphic effects, etc
[18:05] <Wizard> System Settings application is a design-nightmare.
[18:06] <xyz_> I know this seems stupid, but Kubuntu is pretty good to start with using KDE?
[18:06] <Wizard> Sure.
[18:06] <xyz_> I'll download the .iso, and have an another attempt at it then :)
[18:07] <Wizard> It serves pretty default KDE desktop and doesn't follow bleeding edge software.
[18:07] <Wizard> (I recon the second as a big plus)
[18:07] <Wizard> (Does that word exist in english - "recon"?) :P
[18:07] <xyz_> Yes
[18:07] <Wizard> Kewl.
[18:08] <xyz_> But I don't know if it's spelt like that
[18:08] <xyz_> "reckon"
[18:08]  * Wizard won't use it anymore :P
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Wizard, yeah agreed , system settings seems tobe desighned by a commitee
[18:08] <xyz_> 3 hours remaining :P
[18:08] <xyz_> 60KB/s
[18:09] <xyz_> My internet is so slow. :O
[18:09] <Wizard> BluesKaj: And I bet that's the reason xyz_ (and others) find KDE too configurable.
[18:10] <Wizard> KDE1,2,3 tree-structured kcontrol was waaay better.
[18:12] <Wizard> BluesKaj: The best thing in system settings is that it changes icon order depending on language.
[18:13] <Wizard> And not only icon order - category order too :)
[18:13] <Wizard> Besides, if it comes to languages, BluesKaj, where can I "request" a feature?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> Wizard, for example ?
[18:15] <Wizard> I'd like automatic language setup after installation.
[18:15] <Wizard> Just like Ubuntu does.
[18:16] <Wizard> I think Kubunt had such thing around Jaunty and Karmic.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> it does the auto langauge setup during the install on kubuntu afaik, but I just use english , ..it's also determined by locale , which you can find in system settings as an option
[18:17] <Wizard> BluesKaj: This isn't absolutely true.
[18:18] <Wizard> Locales aren't present on LiveCD, so when you chose another language, only installer "speaks" it.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> here aren't many absolutes when there are plenty of options
[18:18] <Wizard> And when you do offline installation, no locales are being installed.
[18:19] <Wizard> So, you end up with system with proper LANG and LC_ALL settings, but without translations installed.
[18:20] <Wizard> And trust me, finding the way to install languages isn't intuitive at all, no matter if you understand english or not.
[18:20] <Wizard> If you don't - you're screwed. Literally.
[18:22] <Wizard> You're english native, so maybe for you these kind of issues aren't very big deal, but this is a big problem in my opinion which should be addressed somehow.
[18:23] <BluesKaj> Wizard, can't you find OS images in other langauges
[18:25] <Wizard> Are they available?
[18:26] <Wizard> BluesKaj: OK, just as I thought, this isn't big issue for you :P
[18:29] <Wizard> BluesKaj: So, trying to explain you the scale of this problem, look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers
[18:29] <Wizard> :P
[18:42] <BluesKaj> Wizard, dunno what this says , but it looks  to me like kubuntu forn german speakers
[18:42] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/
[18:45] <Wizard> They link to cdimage.ubuntu.com ;P
[18:46] <Wizard> Seems they haven't remastered iso image in any way.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> too bad
[18:51] <Wizard> BluesKaj: For now, I give up :P
[18:58] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: hey dude
[19:41] <provolik> Hi to all
[19:42] <provolik> I have just installed kubuntu 12.04 but I have a problem with skype audio
[19:42] <provolik> when I call Skype Test Call I hear a noise and I dont hear my registered voice
[19:43] <provolik> Can someone help me?
[19:48] <provolik> Okay
[19:48] <provolik> I can hear my voice now
[19:49] <provolik> but the audio from skype is noisy
[20:03] <SaCruM> Can someone explain me how can i get permissions on Gimp folder to paste new filters on the script folder (on gimp's directory). Everytime i try to paste something there it say "Access denied". Please help?
[20:04] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  where's that folder?
[20:04] <TheLordOfTime> because location is sometimes a factor...
[20:04] <SaCruM> usr/share/gimp/scripts
[20:04] <SaCruM> :/
[20:06] <SaCruM> TheLordOfTime: is it possible to paste it there? I really want those filters to work :/
[20:06] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  you'd need superuser for that.  Did you check your own user folder for it (~/.gimp-2.6/)
[20:06] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  use your own home preferences folder, not /usr/share/gimp/scripts
[20:06] <SaCruM> TheLordOfTime: i didn't. Let me see
[20:06] <TheLordOfTime> in Precise, it uses ~/.gimp-2.6, but i'm also not on KDE atm
[20:06] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  inside that folder is a scripts folder, so...
[20:07] <SaCruM> what's the shortcut to see hidden folders on dolphin? i forgot.
[20:07] <TheLordOfTime> been a while since i remembered that...
[20:08] <SaCruM> ohhh that folder .gimp-2.6 is on my folder.
[20:08] <HAMKoot> alt + .
[20:08] <SaCruM> I opened it from terminal. how can i open it with dolphin now
[20:08] <SaCruM> HAMKoot: oh thanks :)
[20:08] <HAMKoot> on gnome ctrl + h
[20:08] <SaCruM> How can i open a folder when from terminal? i forgot :x
[20:08] <HAMKoot> cd ..
[20:08] <SaCruM> not changing directorys
[20:08] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  cd /path/to/folder
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  try cd /home/YouRuserName/.gimp-2.6/scripts
[20:09] <HAMKoot> ls /path/to/yes
[20:09] <SaCruM> i'm at cd ~/.gimp-2.6 how can i open it with dolphin now? thats what i ment
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> SaCruM:  type "dolphin"?
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> or...
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> maybe: dolphin ~/.gimp-2.6/
[20:10] <HAMKoot> if you opened dolphin from the start, a few mouseclicks
[20:10] <SaCruM> that worked :D
[20:10] <SaCruM> TheLordOfTime: dolphin ~/.gimp-2.6/ did it :)
[20:10] <SaCruM> Thank you so much for your help guys :)
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> HAMKoot:  he doesnt have "Show hidden files" enabled i think
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> or the .prefix'd files
[20:10] <HAMKoot> Have fun
[20:13] <HAMKoot> Yes, hidden files have a reason, i still would like to see a shadow of files/folders that are hidden, never found some plugin