[09:29] <gnomefreak> anyone have a clue as to how to add the weather indicater  for some reason right  or left clicks dont work
[11:16] <jussi> is nvidia currently working on quantal?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, does anyone find the desktop is black until you click it etc?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> also menus aren't drawn til I move mouse (bug has been reported)
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: does your desktop stay black til you click it, then the desktop shows?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip , what's that boot app for nonsupported USB booting ?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip:  no
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: unetbootin maybe
[11:36] <BluesKaj> I reinstalled yesterday
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> might try deleting all the configs in $HOME  see if it's that
[11:36] <BluesKaj> I was thinking plop
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> both are good
[11:52] <geser> ActionParsnip: what graphic card do you have? I've a similar issue (redraw problems) with VMWare
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[12:27] <proti> morning.
[12:28] <smartboyhw> Morning
[12:28] <proti> I managed to boot my laptop with latest fedora but not latest Ubuntu.
[12:29] <proti> Grub is different between the two. Kernel is different.
[12:29] <proti> Next step I'll try to figure if I need the new grub, the new kernel or both.
[12:30] <proti> But I think ubuntu should be able to reliably boot UEFI machines.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> proti: let one install OS handle grub , not both
[13:19] <gotwig> YAY, linux abi!
[13:19] <gotwig> ;D
[13:34] <BluesKaj> is mounting drives and partitions no longer given root permissions in dolphin/places ?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> with sudoers ?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> seems policykit now needs the pw to mount them. How do i edit policykit to automount them?
[13:49] <Walther> Any news on the nvidia-current?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Walther, dunno ,I haven't checked
[13:53] <Walther> I'm having a bit hard time developing web pages - I just realized that the transition: ease might actually work but my framerate might be too slow -.-'
[13:53] <Walther> i just spent well over half an hour trying to debug the js and css
[13:54] <BluesKaj> the available additional drivers are still the same ones...probly break your system ..I'm sticking with nouveau for now
[13:55] <xtian> i think i found an issue in quantal gnome-common (gnome-autogen.sh). i currently cannot build gtkhtml git master, which means i cannot build evolution git master
[13:55] <xtian> anything known about this?
[13:56] <xtian> issue started to show around wednesday/thursday last week
[13:56] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to figure out why sudoers no longer supports automounting of partitions and connected drives , without the pw
[14:43] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 2 starting in ~15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:53] <proti> BluesKay: I did not install both.
[14:53] <proti> BluesKaj: I did not install both.
[14:53] <proti> I tried to boot each install cd.
[14:53] <proti> One works, the other don't.
[15:01] <proti> BluesKaj: I did not install both.
[15:01] <proti> I tried to boot each install cd.
[15:01] <proti> One works, the other don't.
[15:07] <BluesKaj> proti, ok , I have 2 linux installs , 12.04 and 12.10 and grub is on both ...was told I need only one , but I haven't tried that yet
[15:08] <proti> You indeed need only one. Have the /boot be shared by both instances.
[15:09] <proti> 1Â2.04 and 12.10 grub-update will find all systes via os-prober.
[17:53] <user82> hi. is the current image size really 750mb?
[17:53] <user82> or is the max border higher
[17:54] <jtaylor> 750 is the new max
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> hehe my daily is 782
[18:00] <jtaylor> dailies often exceed the limit
[18:00] <jtaylor> its only enforced for the release milestones
[18:06] <micahg> 750?  I thought it was 800 for quantal
[18:12] <user82> can anyone confirm the size...the new wallpapers fpr 12.10 need to be crazy compressed and if another 3mb were available it would really be good :P
[18:20] <BluesKaj> user82, , whynot use your own from
[18:20] <BluesKaj> pictures etc
[18:23] <user82> yeah..true. but i am talking about the set of pics delivered with ubuntu 12.10
[18:24] <user82> they were chosen yesterday and today
[18:31] <genii-around> For anyone else on 12.10/KDE 4.9.0 ... does your bluetooth in system tray stay permanently on ?
[18:31]  * genii-around sips his coffee and ponders
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> genii-around, there is a bug in ubuntu with bluetooth, I purged bluez and reinstalled it to fix this, but in doing this it removed my gnome-shell and this just had to be reloaded, not sure whats up in kde though.
[18:34] <genii-around> Hm
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> my bluetooth just was not pairing automatically though.
[18:48] <genii-around> I just ended up killing bluetoothd manually for now.
[19:28] <mphill> anyone having trouble with nvidia?
[19:28] <mphill> i just installed nvidia-current and it won't even show up in lsmod.
[19:29] <genii-around> mphill: bug 1019079 and bug 1037896
[19:29] <Walther> Wait, nvidia-current can be installed now
[19:30] <Walther> ...oh, apparenly not really feasible to do so :D
[19:30] <trism> genii-around: should be fixed by now, with 304.43
[19:30] <trism> genii-around: though nobody marked the bug it seems
[19:31] <genii-around> Hm.
[19:31] <trism> mphill: dkms status; maybe the module failed to build
[19:31] <mphill> dkms status: nvidia-current, 304.43, 3.5.0-13-generic, x86_64: installed
[19:32] <genii-around> mphill: Does: modprobe -l | grep nvidia      show anything?
[19:32] <mphill> lsmod | grep -c nvidia: 0
[19:32] <trism> mphill: looks good: sudo modprobe nvidia-current;
[19:32] <mphill> trism: good call: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.5.0-13-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[19:33] <trism> mphill: hmm, odd, what card do you have?
[19:33] <mphill> abi mismatch likely
[19:33] <mphill> humm
[19:33] <mphill> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1)
[19:33] <trism> mphill: you could check dmesg, it will usually complain on abi mismatch
[19:34] <mphill> trism: shouldn't have dkms handled that?
[19:34] <trism> mphill: yes, it should be fine
[19:34] <BluesKaj> genii-around, the nvidia additional drivers are broken , better off with nouveau atm , from most reports so far
[19:35] <mphill> can nouveau do gnome-shell / mutter and dual monitor?
[19:35] <trism> BluesKaj: have you tried the latest one? it is working fine here
[19:35] <mphill> if it can I am so done with this.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> jockey drivers , trism ?
[19:35] <trism> BluesKaj: yes nvidia-current, though I never use jockey
[19:36] <trism> BluesKaj: 304.43 fixes the bug that was causing all the crashing, as far as I can tell
[19:36] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I can't squeeze the old resolution out of nouveau, unfortunately
[19:36] <BluesKaj> trism, checking jockey
[19:39] <BluesKaj> genii-around, really ? I'm getting 1920x1080 here ...using the 8400gs ...the 7600gt bit the dust last week
[19:40] <BluesKaj> trism did you use the tty , stop the dm and install nvidia-current ?
[19:41]  * BluesKaj wonders if he should chance it
[19:42] <trism> BluesKaj: no, just installed nvidia-current and rebooted, though I never uninstalled the broken one so I already have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, might need to run nvidia-xconfig too
[19:43] <genii-around> BluesKaj: For some reason nouveau doesn't like my 1680x945
[19:43] <BluesKaj> trism, ok thanks
[19:46] <trism> mphill: did you reboot after installing the nvidia drivers?
[19:46] <mphill> yes
[19:46] <mphill> very windows-esque, but yet.
[19:46] <mphill> *yes
[19:47] <mphill> I did upgrade from 12.04, I wonder if that is where the problem is coming from
[19:47] <trism> well, I thought it might be a conflict with nouveau (which is why I always reboot immediately after installing the module)
[19:47] <mphill> I'll try a few more things, but is also seems like nvidia-xsettings is missing as well
[19:47] <mphill> trism: that nv right? I think I should blacklist it
[19:48] <trism> mphill: no, nv is a different (older) driver, nouveau is the newer free one
[19:48] <mphill> i just blacklisted it
[19:48] <mphill> time for a root.
[19:52] <mphill> that seems to have made is worse, only one monitor is on now, and there is a 1 inch black border around it
[19:53] <mphill> shows up in lsmod and dkms status
[19:54] <mphill> nvidia-xsettings is gone, and my xorg.conf is blank. And idea on how to re-create it?
[19:54] <Walther> try nvidia-settings
[19:54] <trism> mphill: nvidia-xconfig
[19:54] <trism> mphill: for the initial xorg.conf, then nvidia-settings of course
[19:55] <mphill> sorry, i meant nvidia-xconfig
[19:55] <mphill> nvidia-xconfig
[19:55] <mphill> nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[19:55] <mphill> but nvidia-current is installed
[19:55] <trism> mphill: odd, it is part of nvidia-current
[19:55] <Walther> mphill: nvidia-settings then
[19:55] <trism> mphill: /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[19:55] <trism> mphill: but should be linked to /usr/bin/, maybe your links are messed up
[19:56] <mphill> trism: I ran it, the file is created, let me reboot.
[20:15] <BluesKaj> ok , nividia-current installed fine , version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.43
[20:20] <gotwig> "Ubuntu Remote Login account" whats that?
[20:21] <mphill> trism: Walther: nothing seems to have worked, the driver is there and installed.Running nvidia-settings claims the drivers are not there. Perhaps my symlinks are really botched because nvidia-xconfig isn't even in the path
[20:21] <Walther> hmm
[20:23] <mphill> but its in lsmod and dkms status
[20:24] <trism> mphill: might try to: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current; and reinstall it again (do you have nvidia-current-updates installed too? I've seen this problem before with both)
[20:25] <gotwig> Do you know about that, guys?
[20:25] <gotwig> comes with 12.10: https://uccs.landscape.canonical.com/
[20:26] <trism> gotwig: saw the bug (bug 1040221) but not really sure what it is all about
[20:27] <gotwig> trism: seems like a remote desktop thing over the cloud, streamlined with landscape?
[20:27] <gotwig> trism: for free, it seems
[20:33] <BluesKaj> trism, got nvidia 304.43 installed ok ...dunno if you noticed my post above
[20:33] <trism> BluesKaj: excellent, working fine?
[20:34] <BluesKaj> trism, seems to be , yes
[20:34] <mphill> trism: trying pruge, rebooting
[20:36] <BluesKaj> mp yeah i had some troubles with the nvidia-current-updates as well  ... best to avoid that atm , til the dust settles if possible.
[20:36] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:42] <johnjohn101> !schedule
[21:00] <jtaylor> is vim-gnome uninstallable for others too?
[21:02] <trism> jtaylor: not installable here either
[21:02] <jtaylor> I don't get why, everything it complains about is installed
[21:08] <trism> jtaylor: aha, python2.7 Breaks vim-gnome << 2:7.3.547-4
[21:10] <jtaylor> hm so someone has to update vim ._.
[21:37] <gotwig> GN8! WORLD :D
[21:40] <keffie_jayx> hello, in a recent update, I seem to have lost the filemanager
[21:40] <keffie_jayx> is the change to a new one happening now?
[23:25] <seiji222> Hello, I just installed Lubuntu 12.10 Alpha 3, and after running the updater, it did a partial upgrade, which after rebooting the system resulted in no X...
[23:25] <seiji222> Now I'm running from the Lubuntu Live USB i made
[23:26] <seiji222> Is there a way to fix this or I should use the stable version?
[23:29] <seiji222> is it safe to post the xorg log online?
[23:29] <seiji222> Can someone take a look at it perhaps?
[23:30] <seiji222> Fatal server error:[   316.459] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting