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diploMorning all07:11
brobostigongood morning everyone,07:15
MartijnVdSmgdm: \o/ Perl ;)07:34
MartijnVdSmorning all07:34
diploPerl :*(07:35
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS07:35
christelgood morning pretties07:43
diploMorning young ladie!07:46
diplolady*07:46
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brobostigonmorning chrisccoulson07:54
brobostigonmorning christel07:54
brobostigonsorry chrisccoulson07:55
christelhello brobostigon \o/08:04
christeland diplo :D08:04
christeldiplo: i love you (for calling me YOUNG)08:04
brobostigonhello christel \o/08:04
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diplo:)08:07
christelsee, now i am in a cheerful mood! well done :D08:08
diploGoing on my first proper date since splitting with my ex tonight08:13
* diplo is the very scared person.08:13
* diplo has never really ever 'dated'08:13
christeloooh08:14
christelexciting08:14
oimondiplo, what you doing?  meal? drink?08:14
christeltell me about her (the date) and what you guys are planning :)08:14
diploDrink08:14
diploI'm driving, so a singular drink so no help in the scared bit :)08:14
oimon:S08:15
diploJust meeting up as friends to see if it's easier, I'm honestly petrified.. my heart hasn't stopped pounding since it was confirmed :)08:15
diploJust chat and get to know each other, she has 3 kids and from dating site seems we are on the same page on most things on what to do with life etc08:16
diploSo I'm hoping it all just flows.08:16
diploExactly what we both said when messaging each other08:29
diploStill doesn't make me feel any more confident, bit like meeting you guys08:29
diplo:)08:29
popeyoimon, what's new in ff 15?08:29
Seeker`as long as she doesn't look like popey in a bad wig, you'll be fine08:29
diploI *used* to be this really confident guy :/08:29
popeyO_O08:30
christelaw! stop putting yourself down, you're funny and smart and kind of cute and we all enjoyed meeting you!08:30
popeyor even me in a good wig08:30
diploheh, well I've met popey but still not sure I'd like to see him in a wig :P08:30
popeyonly on weekends08:30
oimonpopey, Mozilla says they have "now plugged the main cause of memory leaks in Firefox add-ons." Add-ons commonly hold extra copies of sites in memory when they don't need to, and the browser now has a mechanism to detect this and reclaim the memory. Another significant improvement is the addition of native support for compressed textures in WebGL, which is a boost for high-res 3D gaming08:30
popeyhow you installing it?08:30
oimondist-upgrade08:31
popeycool08:31
* popey dist-upgrades08:31
livingdaylightguys, is there a social-networking site like diaspora, open-source, protect and honor our privacy but that can connect with other services such as Google- and fciabook. What I loathe is "lock-in" where, whether its skype [good example] users are locked-in to one app or service to access other users /friends using that particular app/service08:31
oimonbtw they are moving to silent update model, probably on other platforms though i guess08:31
popeylivingdaylight, no08:31
livingdaylightshame, its what I'd love to see08:32
diplota christel :)08:32
livingdaylightI hate lock-in and having to join x or y service to communicate with people just coz they're on skype, fciabook or whatever08:32
diploIt was great meeting you guys, really must do it more often but it's also a fair way to travel :)08:33
popeymeh08:33
christelyeah, that was a bit of a trek! :)08:33
diploI don't mind driving, easier at the beginning of the month when I'm more flush with the cash though :D08:33
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popeyis it cheaper on the train?08:34
popeystupid question, of course it isnt08:35
diploheh yeah stupid question, I did look tbh and thought sod that08:35
czajkowskiello ello08:36
diploI watch an old TopGear the other night, they bought a car and travelled from London to Manc and back incl fuel for less money than the train ticket08:36
diploIt's ridiculous how much it costs now08:36
diploHi czajkowski08:36
czajkowskidiplo: yes but it also depends on how you drive08:36
czajkowskibreaking changing gears reving etc08:36
czajkowskic08:36
* diplo is getting older now, slow and steady!08:36
Seeker`yeah, breaking is overrated. Should never do it.08:37
brobostigondamn, it has just started raining, and i have alot to do today.08:46
brobostigon:(08:46
christelmorning czajkowski!08:47
czajkowskiello my dear08:48
christelhow art thou? :)08:49
* MartijnVdS +circles christel 08:57
christeloh hot! :D08:57
MartijnVdSchristel: \o/ G+ ;)08:58
JamesTaitGood morning, from a cold and rainy Derby! :-/09:02
MartijnVdSGood morning, from a nice and sunny Amsterdam! :)09:04
brobostigon:(09:04
brobostigonit is raining quite heavily here.09:04
diploand here near bath :(09:10
christelit drizzled a tad earlier but no rain atm09:12
christelgood morning JamesTait!09:12
JamesTaitGood morning, christel! I thought you were ignoring me. :-P09:12
christelnever! i <3 you!09:13
JamesTaitchristel: Of course you do! :-P09:14
diploOK, from heavy to torrential now :(09:15
christel:D09:20
oimonmany londoners are not expecting rain today, unless they stash their rain coats and umbrellae at work09:25
oimonmy phone app says differently09:25
* jpds just carries the umbrella in his backpack.09:26
oimonlots of people on the station had tshirts but no bags09:27
oimonmaybe they work next to the station at one end and live next to the station at the other09:27
christelweather confuses me09:32
oimoni notice the USC has really changed lately. lots of proprietary apps, free version of paid apps , etc09:32
oimonmuch more like android app store09:33
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oimonwhere's Azelphur ? http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/08/29/0349226/large-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-collapses-with-a-loss-of-56-million?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%2909:50
davmor2Morning all10:02
Monotokohas anyone here dealt with PHP XML before?10:04
davmor2czajkowski: PROD, PROD, PROD etc till you respond10:10
czajkowskidavmor2: ello10:18
davmor2czajkowski: you live and interact with the t'interweb and everything ello10:19
livingdaylightpopey, you said, no, but what about Friendica?10:24
popeylooks like one of many sites that post to multiple social networks10:26
popeythere's lots of them10:26
davmor2popey: what you doing looking for a social networking name?10:26
popeyno10:26
popeynot me10:26
popeycertainly an interesting option, have you tried it livingdaylight ?10:27
livingdaylightpopey, looking at it now for the first time - looks interesting but looks like one has to either join through somoene one already knows or create one's own server10:31
livingdaylightdavmor2, i came in earlier asking whether there was an open-source alternative to FB that posts to multiple network sites and thus avoids the limitation of "lock-in" and the google/fb herd10:32
czajkowskidavmor2: ok..10:33
oimonfacebook allows you to download all your data10:33
popeyso does google+10:33
oimonproblem solved10:33
oimong+, twitter, facebook is built on opensource,10:33
oimoni go to fb to post pictures of my kids to my family, to g+ to read about tech news, and twitter to laugh at the angry people10:34
popeyI generally post the same stuff to all three, but keep some techy stuff off facebook10:35
popeyI'm tempted to reign in my facebook friends now and then, but meh10:35
oimoni dont have work colleagues on fb, only ex ones10:36
oimonsince i keep in touch by sitting next to them10:36
diplooimon: Exactly the same10:41
diploand same as popey, mines friends/family and ex work colleagues10:42
popeyi have a few random community people on my fb10:42
popeywe have a private group on fb for the school year Sam is in10:43
popeywhich we use to share school pics10:43
livingdaylightfb is out of control. a) one has to constantly keep track of what they're doing coz security "goal-posts" shift constantly and b) friendlists get silly too and all the spam to this farm game or the other c) don't like zuckerberg and fb10:43
popeyfb is as out of control as you let it get10:44
diploI've only got about 60-70 people on my friends list10:44
livingdaylightI prefer to support non-corporate and foss where I can10:44
popeyas do I10:44
popeybut there's a problem when your wife / friends are on the other network10:45
diploProblem is livingdaylight most others won't. People need to make money.. things can't stay free forever.10:45
davmor2livingdaylight: the issue is you'll never find all your friends geek and non geek on a network that isn't popular.  For example FB and twitter for me are friends far and wide from all circles G+ is almost all Ubuntu/Canonical people and nothing else10:45
livingdaylightpopey, exactly, that's why I hoped to still be in contact with those that choose fb but via proxy. Some other site that doesn't tell us what to choose10:45
diploI had someone on my list complaining about FB changing things, if you paid for the service I'd understand or had shares but it's all free10:45
popeybut you still have to have a fb account livingdaylight10:46
popeyeven if you use a 3rd party site10:46
oimonhow do you opt out of the face tracking database on fb?10:46
livingdaylighthrmmm, fair-enough10:46
popeyoimon, its in timeline and tagging, in account security i think10:46
oimonWho sees tag suggestions when photos that look like you are uploaded?10:47
oimonpopey, found it, was set to no one cheers10:47
livingdaylightremember that case a while back where twitter was forced to handover information about somone in Iceland coz of something controversial? I don't know whether it was wikileaks-related? while back now, but, I just don't like all dem corporations in the pockets of the powers that be10:47
livingdaylightnot that I, personally, am doing anything untoward ^^10:48
livingdaylightjust the principle10:48
oimonwhat annoys me is when friend click like on big corporates who are then allowed to spam my feed with sponsored links10:49
livingdaylightwhy am I NOT doing anything untoward? .. what kind of rubbish activist am I hrmph10:49
livingdaylight:)10:49
popeyheh10:49
diploI just hide all from said thing oimon, and if someones that bad, defriend them or move them into a group and hide notifications10:50
oimondiplo, you can't hide sponsored links,10:50
oimononly one-by-one after viewing it10:50
oimonnot en-masse10:50
diploABP blocks them i think ?10:50
livingdaylightfb needs an AdBlock plugin, lol10:50
diploon the right ?10:50
diploor in your news feed ?10:50
oimondiplo, no, in the news feed10:50
diploHmm, maybe I don't have such annoying people as you :D10:51
oimone.g. friend likes a certain car manufacturer, they make a sponsored post, which appears within my feed10:51
oimonunblockable10:51
diploOne guy used to spam youtube links once a week ALL night until someone complained10:51
oimonsince it's a fb story10:51
diplooh, don't really get that.10:51
oimoni know people like that. i block or block videos from them10:52
diploWell he complained about your issue above to a load of his friends and they complained about youtubes so I think they came to a mutual agreement :)10:52
gordi really wish xchat didn't give diplo and oimon the same colour, they both use lower case and have the same number of letters. just assumed oimon was talking to himself until i realised10:53
oimoni am grey and diplo is gren10:54
gordyou are grey because you are you :P10:54
gordyou are both green here10:54
diploI'm white and oimon is dark green, gord is bright green :P10:54
oimonhey, gord and diplo are the same colour10:54
oimonxchat fail10:55
oimondoes it take a hash of the letter values?10:55
oimononly seems to have about 10 colours, unlike pidgin10:56
livingdaylighteveryone is blue except me; I'm grey10:56
gordi think its like 16. so imagine a 4bit hash ;) lots of collisions10:56
oimonslow day at work11:01
oimonnot sure what i'm supposed to be doing :S11:01
diploI just can't get going :/11:01
diploAll week!11:01
diplo:P11:01
oimonthink i'll have lunch to kickstart my brain11:13
oimonhttp://lifehacker.com/5938721/nvpy-brings-notational-velocity%20style-note%20taking-to-all-platforms << stores in cloud storage for you11:23
directhexa note taking app with cloud storage? it's genius! we should have an app like that in a default ubuntu install!11:25
oimonit appears some people don't like tomboy11:25
oimoni work with some monotards11:26
oimonpeople shouldn't get desks next to ac units. it gives them the idea that they own it11:28
Monotokooimon, ubuntu should really sync with cloud for notes... my iPhone and Windows 8 automatically syncs with my google notes/calender account11:43
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diploRight shirt and trousers bought for tonight, suppose I better start working now13:21
christelmy! you are pushing the boat all the way out for this date! :D13:25
diploWell I needed trousers, so just a new shirt13:27
diploGot impress13:27
gordwearing a shirt and trousers instead of just turning up in your boxers? fancy13:28
diploGot to*13:28
christelhehe13:48
oimonpicking a quietish pub?13:52
oimonor one with music?13:52
diploQuiet oimon, part restaurant13:55
diploCan't stand loud pubs anyhow, <-- Old :)13:55
diploWell feel it sometimes.13:55
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oimonremember not to moan about stuff or express opinions really strongly14:06
oimonafter a day at work i have pent up rage at all the stupidity i have witnessed.14:06
diployeah that's why I waited so long, get the ex out of my system so it doesn't come up in conversation :)14:09
BigRedShaha, I've just had a cathartic conversation along those lines14:09
directhexis switching to oocalc totally totally broken in unity for anyone else?14:15
oimonsorry don't use unity14:20
popeydirecthex, define broken?14:22
directhexpopey, as in i can't switch to LO from the dock (or whatever it's called). clicking it, as with alt-tabbing to it, does nothing. re-opening the file from the dash recent documents section switches fine though14:23
* davmor2 randomly picks on bigcalm as to where he is sciving off to14:23
popeydirecthex, is there a "pip" next to the LO icon in the launcher?14:28
popeylittle triangle on th left, and one  on the right when it's highlighted?14:28
popeyalso, has bamfdaemon crashed?14:28
popeyalso, have you updated and not restarted session recently?14:28
directhexpopey, unfilled pip to the left (usually denotes it being on another workspace iirc). pip on the right when actually the active window14:29
popeyyes, unfilled means the window is elsewhere14:29
directhexpopey, it's been like this for days, with no backups, and plenty of reboots14:29
popeyis it multi-screen?14:29
davmor2christel: Anyway what happened to our postcard? :D14:29
directhexpopey, technically there are 2 displays. one is turned off in the displays setup14:30
popeyok14:30
popeyi believe it's a multiscreen bug14:30
popeyi see it too sometimes when i undock my laptop14:30
popeyso technically no second screen, but the pips are still wrong14:31
directhexit's the minecraft lwjgl bug :|14:31
popeybug 102410114:31
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1024101 in unity (Ubuntu) "Pips show incorrect status after attaching or detatching second screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102410114:31
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directhexpopey, except i boot with screens set up this way, and don't dock/undock. i get the issue permanently14:39
popeystrange14:40
popeyoimon, maybe Azelphur _is_ pirate, and he's left the country with all the money!14:41
Azelphurpopey: haha14:46
Azelphurnot quite :P14:46
popeyi see people still refusing to accept it's a ponzi scheme14:46
Azelphurpopey: there's still no evidence to say that it is yet, he's still active, still communicating, and still clearly stating he's intending to pay out (why would he do that if it was a ponzi scheme?)14:47
popeyto keep people at bay14:47
gordbecause he thinks its funny?14:47
popeyso he gets a chance to see his coins and get out before people can track him down and sue him14:47
popeys/see/sell/14:47
Monotokowhat's a ponzi scheme?14:47
Azelphur*shrug*14:48
popeyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme14:48
christeldavmor2: i sent it!14:48
Azelphurpopey: I don't stand to loose a whole lot if it goes south anyway, I have my ass reasonably well covered.14:48
Monotokowell, I know what one is... I meant, what are you guys talking about?14:48
Azelphuras is always sensible with things like this :)14:48
Monotokolast I checked there was some screen bug discussion14:48
KrimZon_2ahh, the old screen-bug ponzi scheme scam14:48
KrimZon_2oldest trick in the book14:48
popeyheh14:49
Monotoko... indeed, I'm going to go plan one right now!14:49
Azelphurpopey: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82573.msg1141682#msg1141682 is the latest btw (that's communication between pirate and passthrough maintainers)14:49
KrimZon_2maybe mining the coins was a calculation someone wanted to do, and the ponzi scheme was just a cover up14:51
AzelphurKrimZon_2: someone needs to keanu meme that :p14:52
Azelphurbut yea, me and my upstream are still reasonably confident people will get their money back. Seems like I made the smart move to not bank with Chaang :P14:53
davmor2christel: yeah, yeah we believe you ;)14:56
christelhaha no i did! :P15:01
davmor2christel: in that case I blame the viking postal service, they should get some extra oars :D15:03
christelhaha15:05
christeli only sent it the day before i left admittedly :P15:05
davmor2christel: Man that late you could of bought it back with you and dropped it down the road quicker :D15:07
christelhaha true!15:07
christeli was busy!15:07
christeldoing norwegians15:07
christelerr norwegian things15:07
BigRedShahaha15:20
dogmatic69lol15:23
christelhrm hrm where do i keep my stash of passports?!15:28
davmor2christel: you make it sound like you have 4-5 in case a spy mission happen to get called in :)15:35
christelonly 3!15:35
christeli need to send one off (for some reason converting my FORRIN drivers license to a UK one means the DVLA demands to see my passport as well as my foreign drivers license)15:40
christelso i need to send one of my spares in case they lose it15:41
christel(i have spares because the norwegian passport office (which is really the police) fail at remembering to take your old one away when you get a new one... )15:41
christel(they are all valid and in my name, just one is super old-fashioned and not machine readable, another one started peeling slightly so the customs guy adviced me to replace it so i did and then they just printed me a new one)15:42
czajkowskichristel: I read a photo copy of it is ok15:43
czajkowskias I'm not posting mine away when I want to convert mine15:43
* AlanBell thinks christel is really Jason Bourne15:44
christelthey also just randomly hand them out to Other People -- both times they told me to post my old one to them and then they would post my new one... both times they just gave them to my dad whilst he was there on Other Business and was all "Oh we have your daughter's passport, here"]15:44
christelczajkowski: apparently not, it has to be "the original"15:44
czajkowskihmmmm15:44
czajkowskinot entirely sure I want to send mine15:44
christeli considered going to have a certified photocopy made at some random solicitor's office or something but The Lady On The Phone said they required sight of the original15:44
christelAlanBell: does that excite you?15:45
christelalso, where can i take passport photos for said converted license?15:45
AlanBellParalympic opening ceremony this evening15:46
christel:)15:46
AlanBellbestest place for passport photos is the camera shop on Downing Street15:46
christeldanke <315:46
oimonhow can i access itunesU on android/linux?15:48
MartijnVdSoimon: ituneswhat?15:49
oimonit's a university service for downloading lectuers, except that it uses itunes store15:49
MartijnVdS*le shuddre*15:49
christelhow was the seaside AlanBell15:50
AlanBellit was boats rather than beach, HMS Warrior and HMS Victory15:51
christelaha:)15:51
AlanBellkind of interesting15:52
diplo Right, off home.. maybe catch you guys later15:52
MartijnVdS\o diplo15:52
TheFredhello16:37
jacobwhi16:37
christeldiplo: enjoy your date! :)16:45
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pr0ph3thi all17:32
popeylo17:33
pr0ph3tgnome-settings-daemon keeps crashing on my Ubuntu 12.04 box, do you have a similar experience? I noticed there are some bugs on launchpad but they're all from around April, do you know if anything new has come out? Or is it something to do with my configuration?17:33
pr0ph3thi popey17:33
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: I've seen that happen.. but no solution :(17:34
pr0ph3tMartijnVdS, right, thanks. Does your gtk theme reset as well? I get the crash quite regularly after an hours or so of being logged, that's why I thought it could have something to do with my configuration files being outdated or from older versions17:35
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: yes, the GTK theme is part of what g-s-d manages17:40
MartijnVdSand configs should auto-upgrade17:41
pr0ph3tis it normal that it happened with Gnome shell too? Can gnome-settings-daemon be removed? What would be the consequences? Maybe I could remove it and re-install it, but would that remove the config files as well or should I do that manually?17:41
MartijnVdSgnome-settings-daemon can't easily be removed17:42
MartijnVdSbut17:42
MartijnVdSyou can start it in a terminal, with debug flags, to see what goes wrong17:43
pr0ph3tI installed 12.04 when it was in alpha and continued to upgrade, maybe something went wrong in the process17:51
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: you'll know if you run it with --debug17:52
pr0ph3tI did it, I have the file17:53
MartijnVdScan you pastebin it?17:53
pr0ph3thttp://pastebin.com/SBp7a5A317:55
MartijnVdS** (gnome-settings-daemon:3384): DEBUG: Shutting down17:55
MartijnVdSwut17:55
MartijnVdSit's not even crashing17:55
MartijnVdSit's cleanly shutting down17:55
pr0ph3tyup17:56
MartijnVdSI'd file a bug :)17:59
MartijnVdSOr blame popey17:59
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: oh wait17:59
MartijnVdSyou could17:59
MartijnVdScreate a new user17:59
MartijnVdSand log in as them17:59
MartijnVdSsee if they have the same problem17:59
popeyor login as guest17:59
MartijnVdSor that17:59
MartijnVdSevening popey  :)17:59
pr0ph3tI hope I did cancel guest access, I'll try one of the two and will let you know in a few hours, it does take a while usually. Thanks popey, MartijnVdS18:02
MartijnVdSit could be one program misbehaving that triggers it18:03
MartijnVdSI've had problems with vlc making the window-decorator crash when I had the overlay-scrollbar installed18:04
pr0ph3tguestre all18:08
MartijnVdS\o pr0ph3tguest18:08
pr0ph3tguestthe test is underway18:08
JamesTaitRight, 'night all!18:10
* JamesTait waves18:10
MartijnVdSJamesTait: early?18:16
pr0ph3tguestMartijnVdS, it seems to be doing fine now logged in as a guest18:49
pr0ph3tguestalthough it hasn't even been an hour yet18:49
pr0ph3tguestso if all is fine with a different user what should I do to "fix" my other user too?19:03
davmor2night all19:05
MartijnVdS\o Dave219:06
MartijnVdSuhjr19:06
MartijnVdSdavmor2, but he's gone19:06
pr0ph3tguestMartijnVdS, what should I do then? Delete all config files from the other user?19:08
MartijnVdSpr0ph3tguest: not all.. but I don't know which ones19:08
MartijnVdSlook around ~/.config19:08
AlanBellStephen Hawking \o/19:31
jacobwwhere?19:31
* jacobw looks around for him19:31
AlanBellchannel 419:32
AlanBellparalympic opening ceremony19:32
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Pendulumyay for the Paralympics \o/19:54
brobostigonbbc1 ,sir  patrick stwert, :)19:54
zleapah19:58
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brobostigonwow, i would so love to meet him.20:09
popeyis AlanBell at the opening ceremony?20:47
AlanBellnope, just watching on the telly20:48
dogmatic69damn. a window somehow has gone above the screen now I cant move / resize it20:48
PendulumAlanBell: yay!20:50
AlanBellyay indeed Pendulum20:50
AlanBellthere are still tickets for stuff if people want a cheap fun day out20:51
Pendulumbut relatively few tickets :)20:51
dogmatic69any ideas how I can get it back down? http://i.imgur.com/YG26a.jpg20:52
popeyalt+space, then M to move20:52
popeythen use arrow keys to move it20:52
AlanBellyes, nearly all sold out. Boccia is a good one (or anything at ExCeL because there are 6 sports on and you get an all day pass to all of them)20:52
popeyor use ALT+mouse20:52
dogmatic69popey: genius :D20:53
dogmatic69popey: btw, after the M the window is locked to the mouse so just moving that does the trick. cheers20:53
popeynice20:53
brobostigonanother ww2 man, like my mums father.20:59
Mr_Tinklesevening all21:24
Mr_Tinkleswhat is yuck?21:24
AlanBellmaple syrup on bacon could be considered yuck21:29
Mr_TinklesI mean the application21:29
Mr_TinklesI think its some sort of customization thingummy21:31
Mr_Tinklesthingy21:31
AlanBell!info yuck21:31
lubotu3Package yuck does not exist in precise21:31
AlanBellprobably some kind of reference to yum, which is the redhat package manager thing21:31
Mr_Tinklesmabe I'm getting the name worng, its some sort of customization kit for ubuntu21:33
AlanBelluck!21:43
AlanBell!info uck21:43
lubotu3uck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.5-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 179 kB, installed size 412 kB21:43
Mr_Tinklesthat's the one21:43
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PendulumI wonder if they can train every sport announcer in the world to put in the words "for those who can" before "please stand for x anthem"22:21
AlanBellit would appear to be just as valid for all occasions really22:22
davmor2evening all22:42
AlanBello/ davmor222:43
davmor2I'm having a play with the new accounts stuff on quantal22:44
davmor2irc in empathy seems to of improved a bit22:44
davmor2I mean it's still sucky but it's 100% better than it was22:45
davmor2oh well time for night nights22:56

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