| rick_h_ | morning | 11:54 |
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| rick_h_ | long CHC tonight | 11:54 |
| snap-l | w00t | 11:56 |
| snap-l | http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/4805 <- Check the Rights and Access portion of this recording | 12:07 |
| snap-l | 1915, and they still claim copyright | 12:08 |
| snap-l | What the fuck. | 12:08 |
| brousch | Your art should provide for your great, great grandchildren or it's not worth doing | 12:10 |
| snap-l | http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/1 <- 1902, and still protected. | 12:13 |
| snap-l | Well, there goes one of the ideas for my classical podcast | 12:15 |
| brousch | Make your own music, thief! | 12:16 |
| snap-l | Sure thing. Let me first resurrect Sergei Rachmaninoff and I'll get right on recording him | 12:17 |
| brousch | Kickstart that shit! | 12:22 |
| snap-l | Thank you. Just tweeted that. | 12:24 |
| brousch | What is ht? | 12:29 |
| snap-l | Hat Tip | 12:29 |
| brousch | ah | 12:29 |
| rick_h_ | man, this is nuts: http://goo.gl/kxTzA | 12:42 |
| rick_h_ | I know what I'm going to do, forget beach comber, I want to just quit and go become a bomb hunter | 12:43 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: War is never as clean and tidy as people might be lead to believe | 12:44 |
| snap-l | I'm sure your children's children will be dealing with unexploded ordinance from the early 20th century. | 12:44 |
| rick_h_ | reminder all, CHC early tonight snap-l Blazeix widox PainBank | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: ^^ | 12:52 |
| widox | woo | 13:01 |
| widox | rick_h_: offer still available to borrow a keyboard or two? | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | widox: oh, yea thanks for reminding me | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | I'll stack them by the door | 13:02 |
| widox | sweet, thanks | 13:02 |
| brousch | snap-l: Ug, we need an earlier time for the jam | 13:06 |
| snap-l | brousch: If someone can come through, that would be awesome | 13:11 |
| jrwren | i forgot it is open week. was there any good content yesterday? | 13:16 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: no idea, I should be ashamed | 13:17 |
| jrwren | snap-l: do teh podcast, wiat for (C) holders to invoke their rights. | 13:17 |
| jrwren | snap-l: if you don't want the liability, do the podcast under my name, I'll pay you to do it, so the liability is mine :p | 13:18 |
| jrwren | s/open week/developer week/ | 13:19 |
| derekv | rick_h_: retweeted. | 13:19 |
| derekv | will try to make it | 13:19 |
| derekv | i have worky work to do but maybe i can find a way to bring some of it | 13:19 |
| jrwren | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek looks like the things i'm interested in are today. | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: hah, we had a buy bring dev tv tuner hardware to work on at CHC so surely your work can travel :P | 13:20 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Heh | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | oh hmm, I should have checked out the arm stuff yesterday | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | I keep almost hitting buy on one of those arm 1U boxes on newegg | 13:21 |
| brousch | You don't need one. Use your phone | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | maybe juju today | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | my phone can't run jenkins :P | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | or more like...I don't want my phone running jenkins | 13:22 |
| jrwren | any pythonistas use buildbot ? | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | launchpad is on it :( | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | but one day we're supposed to get from it to jenkins | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | maybe in 2015 | 13:23 |
| jrwren | why not enhance buildbot. | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | because it's fail | 13:23 |
| jrwren | fix it? | 13:23 |
| jrwren | or would it be better to restart? | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | and jenkins is better and it's use is the new standard | 13:23 |
| jrwren | true, but jre makes me cry. | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | you'll cry less than buildbot will make you cry | 13:24 |
| brousch | Pure Python all the things! | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | and it's much more active, supported, and lots of pretty features | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | bah, language snobs fail :P | 13:24 |
| jrwren | good answers. | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | as long as I don't have to dev for it :) | 13:24 |
| jrwren | its more the runtime than the langauge that bugs me. | 13:24 |
| jrwren | I feel like considering a software's pedigree should slightly impact decision to use it. | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | the software or the language? | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | I guess are we talking about jenkins or jre when you say that? | 13:25 |
| jrwren | jre | 13:26 |
| derekv | my head frikn hurts | 13:27 |
| derekv | i'm having one of those mornings where it feels like my soul is lagging somewhat behing my mind, which is lagging far behind my body, which is barely moving | 13:29 |
| jrwren | i never did get the hang of wednesdays. | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.lematinal.com/mobile/technologie/18274-Samsung-Pays-Apple-1-Billion-Sending-30-Trucks-Full-of-5-Cents-Coins.html lmao!!!!! | 13:33 |
| derekv | i wish | 13:46 |
| snap-l | taking fatherinlaw to hospital | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | everything ok? | 13:51 |
| jjesse | oh no | 13:51 |
| jjesse | hope things are ok | 13:51 |
| snap-l | can't walk, but otherwise ok | 13:51 |
| jjesse | rick_h_ while that samsung story would be assume, they are appealing the deal right? so it can't be true that they are paying | 14:02 |
| rick_h_droid | jjesse yea didn't verify it but made me smile | 14:03 |
| rick_h_droid | http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/read/samsung-is-not-paying-apple-1-05-billion-in-coins/019178 | 14:04 |
| snap-l | oh pshaw | 14:14 |
| brousch | Do you go back after a pip freeze and remove dependencies that were added by the packages you actually added? | 15:05 |
| brousch | Like I install localwiki, which installs django-honeypot. Should I go into the requirements.txt and remove django-honeypot? | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | don't store the pip freeze in those cases | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | manually make sure you keep up your setup.py and requirements.txt and that you have a builder that runs tests to make sure your project builds with the right deps | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | because if you get an updated django-honeypot, but they update a dep, and you've got it locked from a previous pip freeze, you can break things in crazy ways | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | pip freeze is a helpful tool, but I'm against pip freeze > requirements.txt unless you're doing it from master to production and you rerun that process after successful builds down the road | 15:08 |
| brousch | Interesting | 15:10 |
| brousch | So you manually build your requirements.txt? | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | it started out from a pip freeze, but yes, I manually change it from now on | 15:10 |
| brousch | Ug, this thing needs solr | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 15:11 |
| brousch | This is abig ang gnarly as Bookie :P | 15:12 |
| brousch | Darn complicated programs needing a bunch of dependencies | 15:12 |
| rick_h_ | even bookie does't need solr :P and it has a makefile to make life easier | 15:12 |
| brousch | Yeah, I'm building a makefile for our localwiki instance | 15:12 |
| rick_h_ | wtf...this honeypot thing needs solr? | 15:13 |
| brousch | No, localwiki needs it | 15:13 |
| rick_h_ | oic | 15:13 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's what I've been avoiding with bookie. Getting tied to only fulltext search implementation | 15:13 |
| rick_h_ | interfaces ftw | 15:13 |
| brousch | Have to start up a solr server now | 15:13 |
| rick_h_ | there are a few services for running solr as a service | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | but ugh | 15:15 |
| brousch | they use jetty | 15:15 |
| shakes808 | Good morning all | 15:18 |
| shakes808 | Sorry for the delay. Got in a car accident this morning on my way to work. | 15:19 |
| shakes808 | And I won't be at CHC tonight. I have to go meet up with my son's first grade teacher on the other end of town (harrison township) :( | 15:20 |
| snap-l | shakes808: sorry to hear that | 15:25 |
| snap-l | Sitting in the emergency room. | 15:38 |
| shakes808 | You are sitting in the ER? | 15:38 |
| snap-l | father in law is in the emergency room | 15:39 |
| shakes808 | Sorry to hear that | 15:39 |
| shakes808 | What for if you don't mind me asking? | 15:40 |
| snap-l | np. Happens. | 15:40 |
| snap-l | Leg pain | 15:40 |
| shakes808 | Hope it is nothing serious. | 15:40 |
| snap-l | Hope so too. | 15:48 |
| snap-l | We'll see. | 15:48 |
| greg-g | anyone experience stupid behavior from Chromium in GNOME Shell? As in, it starts maximized on my laptop screen, I want to alt-drag it to my monitor, in doing so, it goes full screen, so I hit F11 to exit that, and it goes back over to my laptop. | 16:50 |
| greg-g | good thing I only use Chromium for flash videos, goo.gl, and pr0... er... nothing else | 16:50 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I'm sure the GNOME Shell developer have a perfectly reasoned out reason fr it doing that. | 16:53 |
| brousch | Welcome to Gnome3! | 16:54 |
| Blazeix | well, your average user doesn't use maximize, so you're really testing out the edge-cases of the system. | 16:54 |
| Blazeix | it's going to be deprecated in version 3.5 | 16:54 |
| brousch | Are you being sarcastic? | 16:55 |
| snap-l | The average user also thinks Windows is just ducky | 16:56 |
| greg-g | snap-l: Fx does the right thing, along with all other apps, it is just Chromium | 16:59 |
| greg-g | brousch: ^ | 16:59 |
| snap-l | hurm | 17:00 |
| snap-l | Chrome also does some weird things with window barriers | 17:00 |
| snap-l | s/barriers/borders/ | 17:00 |
| snap-l | Did you try native? | 17:01 |
| shakes808 | rick_h_: You available? JS question. | 17:04 |
| brousch | Son of a ... solr is 87MB. Is git going to be mad about that in my repo? | 17:07 |
| brousch | Wait, I should download it as part of the dev setup | 17:10 |
| greg-g | native? | 17:10 |
| snap-l | greg-g: There's a switch to use the naitve borders | 17:11 |
| * greg-g looks in a second | 17:11 | |
| greg-g | snap-l: that was the issue | 17:11 |
| snap-l | ;) | 17:12 |
| greg-g | that's understandable then | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | heh, time for a new camera http://goo.gl/GlmrW | 18:52 |
| greg-g | whoa, for real? nice | 19:04 |
| jrwren | how can I tell a new style class v. old style class at runtime? | 19:10 |
| jrwren | <class 'mod.blah'> is newstyle, right? | 19:10 |
| jrwren | oh, nevermind. | 19:10 |
| rick_h_ | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/768/ jrwren | 19:12 |
| jrwren | and if you had typed just Test to eval the class object, you would have got <class 'Test'> | 19:25 |
| jcastro | hey rick_h_ | 19:40 |
| jcastro | got that url to those AV guys? | 19:40 |
| jcastro | they install TVs and stuff too I assume? | 19:40 |
| snap-l | jcastro: You still need to come over for the Squeezebox demo | 19:47 |
| snap-l | when you're not farting around witht eh fishes in Atlanta. | 19:47 |
| snap-l | ;) | 19:48 |
| Blazeix | http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states/ | 20:18 |
| greg-g | crazy, eh? | 20:19 |
| Blazeix | i choose to imagine obama slumped in his chair, cheek on his fist, lazily scrolling though the comments | 20:21 |
| greg-g | :) | 20:21 |
| jjesse | and reedit is now dead | 20:23 |
| brousch | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu reddit is under heavy load right now, sorry. Try again in a few minutes. | 20:23 |
| jjesse | hrmm just that page | 20:23 |
| jjesse | i can get other redit pages to load | 20:24 |
| jjesse | i picture the Reddit servers smoking right now… big heaping piles of waste | 20:30 |
| Blazeix | reddit runs on EC2, right? are their downtime issues due to a poor architecture or money issues or something? | 20:32 |
| jjesse | no idea, and i know the servers don't catch on fire or whatever but its fun to picture (at least for me) a rack of servers on fire because of the president showing up on Reddit | 20:32 |
| greg-g | Blazeix: not quite your image: http://i.imgur.com/oz0a7.jpg | 20:33 |
| brousch | rick_h_: I done you proud today. One more thing to figure out and this will be a thing of beauty | 20:36 |
| snap-l | wow | 20:37 |
| snap-l | that is awesome | 20:37 |
| dsschnau_ | hi... there wouldn't happen to be anyone here at caribou in birmhingham for coffee coders? | 23:05 |
| rick_h_ | boooo | 23:06 |
| rick_h_ | oh yea, we're in the back dsschnau_ | 23:06 |
| dsschnau_ | oh cool, one sec | 23:07 |
| rick_h_ | dsschnau_: we're over at the caribou in woodward/13mi | 23:07 |
| rick_h_ | is that birmingham? | 23:07 |
| dsschnau_ | yeah... i'm in the main part | 23:07 |
| dsschnau_ | yeah | 23:07 |
| rick_h_ | dsschnau_: ah cool yea back part | 23:07 |
| rick_h_ | upvotes please http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/z1m4h/what_are_the_most_interesting_pyramid_projects/ | 23:29 |
| rick_h_ | see if we can't get another wave :) | 23:29 |
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