[11:54] morning [11:54] long CHC tonight [11:56] w00t [12:07] http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/4805 <- Check the Rights and Access portion of this recording [12:08] 1915, and they still claim copyright [12:08] What the fuck. [12:10] Your art should provide for your great, great grandchildren or it's not worth doing [12:13] http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/1 <- 1902, and still protected. [12:15] Well, there goes one of the ideas for my classical podcast [12:16] Make your own music, thief! [12:17] Sure thing. Let me first resurrect Sergei Rachmaninoff and I'll get right on recording him [12:22] Kickstart that shit! [12:24] Thank you. Just tweeted that. [12:29] What is ht? [12:29] Hat Tip [12:29] ah [12:42] man, this is nuts: http://goo.gl/kxTzA [12:43] I know what I'm going to do, forget beach comber, I want to just quit and go become a bomb hunter [12:44] rick_h_: War is never as clean and tidy as people might be lead to believe [12:44] I'm sure your children's children will be dealing with unexploded ordinance from the early 20th century. [12:52] reminder all, CHC early tonight snap-l Blazeix widox PainBank [12:52] derekv: ^^ [13:01] woo [13:02] rick_h_: offer still available to borrow a keyboard or two? [13:02] widox: oh, yea thanks for reminding me [13:02] I'll stack them by the door [13:02] sweet, thanks [13:06] snap-l: Ug, we need an earlier time for the jam [13:11] brousch: If someone can come through, that would be awesome [13:16] i forgot it is open week. was there any good content yesterday? [13:17] jrwren: no idea, I should be ashamed [13:17] snap-l: do teh podcast, wiat for (C) holders to invoke their rights. [13:18] snap-l: if you don't want the liability, do the podcast under my name, I'll pay you to do it, so the liability is mine :p [13:19] s/open week/developer week/ [13:19] rick_h_: retweeted. [13:19] will try to make it [13:19] i have worky work to do but maybe i can find a way to bring some of it [13:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek looks like the things i'm interested in are today. [13:20] derekv: hah, we had a buy bring dev tv tuner hardware to work on at CHC so surely your work can travel :P [13:21] jrwren: Heh [13:21] oh hmm, I should have checked out the arm stuff yesterday [13:21] I keep almost hitting buy on one of those arm 1U boxes on newegg [13:22] You don't need one. Use your phone [13:22] maybe juju today [13:22] my phone can't run jenkins :P [13:22] or more like...I don't want my phone running jenkins [13:22] any pythonistas use buildbot ? [13:22] launchpad is on it :( [13:23] but one day we're supposed to get from it to jenkins [13:23] maybe in 2015 [13:23] why not enhance buildbot. [13:23] because it's fail [13:23] fix it? [13:23] or would it be better to restart? [13:23] and jenkins is better and it's use is the new standard [13:23] true, but jre makes me cry. [13:24] you'll cry less than buildbot will make you cry [13:24] Pure Python all the things! [13:24] and it's much more active, supported, and lots of pretty features [13:24] bah, language snobs fail :P [13:24] good answers. [13:24] as long as I don't have to dev for it :) [13:24] its more the runtime than the langauge that bugs me. [13:25] I feel like considering a software's pedigree should slightly impact decision to use it. [13:25] the software or the language? [13:25] I guess are we talking about jenkins or jre when you say that? [13:26] jre [13:27] my head frikn hurts [13:29] i'm having one of those mornings where it feels like my soul is lagging somewhat behing my mind, which is lagging far behind my body, which is barely moving [13:31] i never did get the hang of wednesdays. [13:33] http://www.lematinal.com/mobile/technologie/18274-Samsung-Pays-Apple-1-Billion-Sending-30-Trucks-Full-of-5-Cents-Coins.html lmao!!!!! [13:46] i wish [13:51] taking fatherinlaw to hospital [13:51] everything ok? [13:51] oh no [13:51] hope things are ok [13:51] can't walk, but otherwise ok [14:02] rick_h_ while that samsung story would be assume, they are appealing the deal right? so it can't be true that they are paying [14:03] jjesse yea didn't verify it but made me smile [14:04] http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/read/samsung-is-not-paying-apple-1-05-billion-in-coins/019178 [14:14] oh pshaw [15:05] Do you go back after a pip freeze and remove dependencies that were added by the packages you actually added? [15:06] Like I install localwiki, which installs django-honeypot. Should I go into the requirements.txt and remove django-honeypot? [15:06] don't store the pip freeze in those cases [15:07] manually make sure you keep up your setup.py and requirements.txt and that you have a builder that runs tests to make sure your project builds with the right deps [15:07] because if you get an updated django-honeypot, but they update a dep, and you've got it locked from a previous pip freeze, you can break things in crazy ways [15:08] pip freeze is a helpful tool, but I'm against pip freeze > requirements.txt unless you're doing it from master to production and you rerun that process after successful builds down the road [15:10] Interesting [15:10] So you manually build your requirements.txt? [15:10] it started out from a pip freeze, but yes, I manually change it from now on [15:11] Ug, this thing needs solr [15:11] hah [15:12] This is abig ang gnarly as Bookie :P [15:12] Darn complicated programs needing a bunch of dependencies [15:12] even bookie does't need solr :P and it has a makefile to make life easier [15:12] Yeah, I'm building a makefile for our localwiki instance [15:13] wtf...this honeypot thing needs solr? [15:13] No, localwiki needs it [15:13] oic [15:13] yea, that's what I've been avoiding with bookie. Getting tied to only fulltext search implementation [15:13] interfaces ftw [15:13] Have to start up a solr server now [15:15] there are a few services for running solr as a service [15:15] but ugh [15:15] they use jetty [15:18] Good morning all [15:19] Sorry for the delay. Got in a car accident this morning on my way to work. [15:20] And I won't be at CHC tonight. I have to go meet up with my son's first grade teacher on the other end of town (harrison township) :( [15:25] shakes808: sorry to hear that [15:38] Sitting in the emergency room. [15:38] You are sitting in the ER? [15:39] father in law is in the emergency room [15:39] Sorry to hear that [15:40] What for if you don't mind me asking? [15:40] np. Happens. [15:40] Leg pain [15:40] Hope it is nothing serious. [15:48] Hope so too. [15:48] We'll see. [16:50] anyone experience stupid behavior from Chromium in GNOME Shell? As in, it starts maximized on my laptop screen, I want to alt-drag it to my monitor, in doing so, it goes full screen, so I hit F11 to exit that, and it goes back over to my laptop. [16:50] good thing I only use Chromium for flash videos, goo.gl, and pr0... er... nothing else [16:53] greg-g: I'm sure the GNOME Shell developer have a perfectly reasoned out reason fr it doing that. [16:54] Welcome to Gnome3! [16:54] well, your average user doesn't use maximize, so you're really testing out the edge-cases of the system. [16:54] it's going to be deprecated in version 3.5 [16:55] Are you being sarcastic? [16:56] The average user also thinks Windows is just ducky [16:59] snap-l: Fx does the right thing, along with all other apps, it is just Chromium [16:59] brousch: ^ [17:00] hurm [17:00] Chrome also does some weird things with window barriers [17:00] s/barriers/borders/ [17:01] Did you try native? [17:04] rick_h_: You available? JS question. [17:07] Son of a ... solr is 87MB. Is git going to be mad about that in my repo? [17:10] Wait, I should download it as part of the dev setup [17:10] native? [17:11] greg-g: There's a switch to use the naitve borders [17:11] * greg-g looks in a second [17:11] snap-l: that was the issue [17:12] ;) [17:14] that's understandable then [18:52] heh, time for a new camera http://goo.gl/GlmrW [19:04] whoa, for real? nice [19:10] how can I tell a new style class v. old style class at runtime? [19:10] is newstyle, right? [19:10] oh, nevermind. [19:12] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/768/ jrwren [19:25] and if you had typed just Test to eval the class object, you would have got [19:40] hey rick_h_ [19:40] got that url to those AV guys? [19:40] they install TVs and stuff too I assume? [19:47] jcastro: You still need to come over for the Squeezebox demo [19:47] when you're not farting around witht eh fishes in Atlanta. [19:48] ;) [20:18] http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states/ [20:19] crazy, eh? [20:21] i choose to imagine obama slumped in his chair, cheek on his fist, lazily scrolling though the comments [20:21] :) [20:23] and reedit is now dead [20:23] fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu reddit is under heavy load right now, sorry. Try again in a few minutes. [20:23] hrmm just that page [20:24] i can get other redit pages to load [20:30] i picture the Reddit servers smoking right now… big heaping piles of waste [20:32] reddit runs on EC2, right? are their downtime issues due to a poor architecture or money issues or something? [20:32] no idea, and i know the servers don't catch on fire or whatever but its fun to picture (at least for me) a rack of servers on fire because of the president showing up on Reddit [20:33] Blazeix: not quite your image: http://i.imgur.com/oz0a7.jpg [20:36] rick_h_: I done you proud today. One more thing to figure out and this will be a thing of beauty [20:37] wow [20:37] that is awesome [23:05] hi... there wouldn't happen to be anyone here at caribou in birmhingham for coffee coders? [23:06] boooo [23:06] oh yea, we're in the back dsschnau_ [23:07] oh cool, one sec [23:07] dsschnau_: we're over at the caribou in woodward/13mi [23:07] is that birmingham? [23:07] yeah... i'm in the main part [23:07] yeah [23:07] dsschnau_: ah cool yea back part [23:29] upvotes please http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/z1m4h/what_are_the_most_interesting_pyramid_projects/ [23:29] see if we can't get another wave :)