| ttgdz | wrst all day is here? | 04:20 |
|---|---|---|
| cyberanger | wrst: ouch | 06:37 |
| cyberanger | xTEMPLARx: some of us have to sleep | 06:37 |
| cyberanger | ..followed by night shift | 06:44 |
| ttgdz | oh,yeah,it is night where you are? | 06:46 |
| chris4585 | its 3am over here | 07:02 |
| cyberanger | wb everyone | 09:21 |
| netritious | wrst how did your mad scientist experiment go? | 11:49 |
| wrst | ha ha well believe it or not i got it to install upstart remove ugghh the initsysv? and it rebooted :) | 11:50 |
| wrst | but netritious i was having trbouble with wireless, and yes i know on a server but its what i have and using it to serve a printer | 11:51 |
| wrst | wireless worked well with arch, but the latest greatest cups didn't like my printer, wireless worked sometimes with debian but not all the time i had difficulty getting it to load the firmware before it tried connectinig | 11:51 |
| * wrst looks at xTEMPLARx's direction | 12:43 | |
| * xTEMPLARx wakes up. | 13:13 | |
| wrst | howdy xTEMPLARx | 13:18 |
| xTEMPLARx | g'morning sir :D | 13:18 |
| wrst | how are you doing? | 13:18 |
| xTEMPLARx | a bit tired but i'm otherwise okay, y tu? | 13:18 |
| wrst | feeling better? | 13:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | slowly but surely | 13:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | definitely bettr than I was, but the cough and drainage remains | 13:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | sorry if TMI | 13:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | Canonical needs to hurry up and get FF 15.0 into the repositories | 13:24 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: that's where i miss arch | 13:26 |
| wrst | and also thats also why i use chrome it stays up to date, i prefer chromium but they sure don't keep it up to date | 13:26 |
| xTEMPLARx | I use chrome as well, pretty much always. I'm still a bit curious about FF 15 though | 13:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | to see if it's as improved as they claim | 13:37 |
| wrst | i like firefox and its good | 13:38 |
| wrst | but i like how the full screen of chrome works now in gnome-shell gives me more screen realestate | 13:38 |
| wrst | at work i'm using firefox in winders | 13:38 |
| xTEMPLARx | I used to use firefox exclusively, but I watched it get more and more bloated, becoming the very thing it railed against at its onset | 13:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | Chrome came out, and it wasn't 100% at first, but it's blossomed quite nicely and is a great browser now | 13:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | I don't have any reason whatsoever to switch back. I just feel like I almost owe it to them to see if 15 is truly as good as they claim | 14:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | I just about always have FF installed on my machines alongside Chrome | 14:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | on my windows systems, the only time IE gets launched is when I encounter a website that requires it | 14:00 |
| wrst | and that is getting fewer and fewer | 14:01 |
| wrst | thankfully!! | 14:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | and really the only reason FF gets launched anymore is if something doesn't work in Chrome and I'm trying to verify that it's the server and not the browser | 14:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst agreed | 14:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | my company here provides a web GUI product that requires IE still | 14:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | based off a product called WebGUI of all things | 14:02 |
| wrst | ugh | 14:04 |
| wrst | and really i think the latest IE isn't so bad i don't guess but why chance it | 14:05 |
| wrst | and really if you have to run commercials for people to use the browser that comes with most computers on the planet, that's probably not a good sign | 14:05 |
| wrst | i have been playing with a spare box at home now i have quantel server running | 14:06 |
| wrst | or however you spell the codename for 12.10 | 14:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | whee | 14:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | NVidia drivers finally crapped and refused to come back up | 14:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | quite suspiciously after an update | 14:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | an ubuntu update, not the driver | 14:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | hrmmmmm | 14:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | switched to one of the drivers available in the ubuntu proprietary drivers utility | 14:59 |
| wrst | ohh so you were running out of repo software xTEMPLARx? shame shame :) | 15:02 |
| xTEMPLARx | Pffffft | 15:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | it's been rock solid for a loooong time now | 15:04 |
| wrst | ha well it broke your hamster, hope you are happy :P | 15:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | makes me wanna smack dat hamster! | 15:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | for being such a wuss, that is | 15:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | i'm in unity at the moment, and notifications from Quassel aren't workin' | 15:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | hrm | 15:05 |
| wrst | are you using unity by choice? :) | 15:19 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: | 15:19 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: | 15:19 |
| wrst | just thought i would help you check your notifications :D | 15:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | first switched to it thinking maybe gnome-shell was the root of my problems | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | i'm back in shell now | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | unity is kinda clunky compared to shell | 15:46 |
| wrst | yeah unity just isn't for me | 15:50 |
| xTEMPLARx | nor for me | 15:51 |
| xTEMPLARx | what's funny is i have Shell set up similarly | 15:51 |
| wrst | but i'm sure its for someone! | 15:51 |
| xTEMPLARx | I have the Avant Window Manager bar on the left-hand side | 15:51 |
| xTEMPLARx | but it works better than the unity bar | 15:51 |
| xTEMPLARx | more intuitive | 15:51 |
| wrst | i think it would have been interesting to have seen ubuntu switch to kde and see what they would have done with it | 15:51 |
| wrst | but i just like watching things get changed, crash, and then burn also | 15:52 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 15:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | I so wanted to like KDE | 15:54 |
| wrst | yes me too but the file browser is awful and really if you can't do that right | 15:58 |
| wrst | but hey gnome wants rid of the file browser! | 15:58 |
| * xTEMPLARx gags a little. | 16:04 | |
| xTEMPLARx | my linux box isn't an iOS device | 16:04 |
| wrst | tell me about it! | 16:06 |
| wrst | wanting to do a search thing, but i know where my files are i don't need to search for them | 16:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | exactly | 16:12 |
| xTEMPLARx | in a larger filesystem, browsing directly to something can go much quicker than waiting for a search to complete. | 16:13 |
| xTEMPLARx | plus, what if i know where the files are, but don't remember the name? | 16:13 |
| wrst | exactly xTEMPLARx! | 16:29 |
| xTEMPLARx | grabbed the net install for 12.04... it won't run in command line mode on this old Dell because it launches into an unknown graphics mode | 16:32 |
| xTEMPLARx | how about we just stay in the mode we're in now, that works, instead of getting fancy with it? | 16:32 |
| xTEMPLARx | argh | 16:32 |
| xTEMPLARx | removed the vga call in the boot string, and we're good now | 16:38 |
| xTEMPx | Whee! | 16:43 |
| wrst | wb xTEMPLARx :) | 16:48 |
| xTEMPx | =] | 16:51 |
| xTEMPx | Working on a system install in our clean room | 16:51 |
| wrst | xTEMPx: you the man | 16:52 |
| xTEMPx | :P | 16:52 |
| wrst | you installing ubuntu if i read that correctly? | 16:55 |
| xTEMPx | Si | 16:55 |
| wrst | ahh nice i thought you were mainly a windows shop | 16:56 |
| wrst | sorry but my spanish isn't good enough to make many comments | 16:56 |
| xTEMPx | This is a server for the clean room. Originally running xp but I want a more robust, virus-resistant platform | 16:58 |
| wrst | you have found it... well about anything | 16:58 |
| wrst | you could go hardcore adn bsd that bad boy | 16:58 |
| xTEMPx | Pffft | 16:59 |
| wrst | you know you want to | 16:59 |
| xTEMPx | Nay! | 17:00 |
| wrst | i need my little wireless cards to work i may try bsd next i know i shouldn't have wireless cards in a server but its what i have :) | 17:01 |
| xTEMPx | Well if you're gonna do it that way you could at least make sure they're supported | 17:02 |
| xTEMPx | Lol | 17:02 |
| wrst | xTEMPx: that would be too easy and make sense and cause things to work quickly | 17:03 |
| wrst | i had it working in debian but half the time it wouldn't load the firmware on boot | 17:03 |
| xTEMPx | Load...the..firmware? | 17:04 |
| wrst | yeah had to load a module somethign antoher it was late i needed sleep | 17:05 |
| wrst | there is an opensource driver for the card but the firmware had to be installed | 17:05 |
| xTEMPx | One of THOSE deals | 17:06 |
| wrst | yeah and ubuntu used to work out of the box so i loaded up good ol' 12.04 and found out they have removed support bless their stinkin' cold hearts | 17:09 |
| xTEMPx | Go back to an earlier LTS release? | 17:10 |
| wrst | yeah i could but that's no phone i was using arch but the latest cups messed it all up | 17:10 |
| wrst | i'm using this for a print server i guess i should have started with that | 17:11 |
| wrst | but the wireless setup was super easy with arch | 17:11 |
| wrst | so i may go back to arch and figure out why cups blew up on me | 17:14 |
| wrst | that would be said to try 3 distros and return back to what i started with | 17:15 |
| xTEMPx | It may prove that switching distros to fix a problem isn't always the answer | 17:15 |
| xTEMPx | But at least u had fun trying | 17:16 |
| wrst | well debain worked for 3 days until the power blinked | 17:16 |
| wrst | then it never worked again :) | 17:17 |
| wrst | my cards are a little finicky but worked perfectly with arch | 17:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | http://i.imgur.com/jBhaf.jpg | 17:24 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: nice :) | 17:35 |
| xTEMPx | =] | 17:36 |
| wrst | and xTEMPx looks like freebsd probably supports that card... i cant see how this could go wrong | 17:37 |
| wrst | if this works i would have a few linux machines my wifes os x and a bsd all sorts of *nixy goodenss | 17:38 |
| wrst | and *goodness | 17:38 |
| xTEMPx | I think that if I ever buy another laptop, it'll be a MacBook | 17:40 |
| wrst | xTEMPx: they are just soooo overpriced | 17:43 |
| xTEMPx | Agreed | 17:43 |
| wrst | i can buy like 3 of my laptops for one macbook | 17:43 |
| wrst | but my wife's macbook is nice | 17:44 |
| xTEMPx | Same can be said for most of system 76's hardware | 17:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | the apple hardware is excellent though | 17:44 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: you have mutliple personalities don't know who to talk to :) but... sys 76 isn't bad when you compare, but i mean i can by foxconn stuff a lot cheaper from newegg when it just says foxconn and not apple | 17:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | thing about a macbook is, it's a well-engineered total package | 17:47 |
| xTEMPLARx | yeah you can find foxconn pieces/parts on newegg, but not a macbook clone | 17:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | i don't see any laptop-related hardware there | 17:48 |
| wrst | that is true, but my $499 Asus, not hardly so well engineered package will do everything my wife's 1600 well engineered macbook will do | 17:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | agreed | 17:48 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i know but foxconn makes a lot of their stuff and i think tablet stuff in china | 17:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | but in terms of laptops | 17:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | I dunno... just can't imagine buying another laptop, really, so if I did I'd want something that was rock-solid | 17:50 |
| xTEMPLARx | and there are just way too many unknowns in the off-the-shelf laptop world in those lower price ranges | 17:50 |
| wrst | when i purchase one i try to go for stuff that I know linux works well with but sometimes its hard to find detailed specs | 17:50 |
| xTEMPLARx | specs notwithstanding, the big variable I worry about is build quality | 17:53 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: this istn' too bad: https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/panp9 | 17:53 |
| xTEMPLARx | sure there are reviews and such online, but so many are highly suspect | 17:53 |
| wrst | i have been very happy with asus stuff its not always the best but i'm not usually unhappy and if i pay under 500 for a laptop i realize its not going to be a tank | 17:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | not awful | 17:54 |
| wrst | no not bad and its helping the linux world out | 17:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | i wonder how many systems they sell annually | 18:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | system76 that is | 18:09 |
| wrst | good question | 18:09 |
| wrst | if i had funds they might sell one more this year that's a nice looking machine | 18:11 |
| wrst | hello chris4585 | 18:11 |
| chris4585 | hey wrst | 18:12 |
| wrst | chris4585: all going well? | 18:14 |
| chris4585 | wrst, awesome, you? | 18:15 |
| wrst | oh between good and awesome :) | 18:15 |
| wrst | thanks for asking chris4585 :) | 18:15 |
| xTEMPLARx | its just after 2 p.m. | 18:16 |
| xTEMPLARx | he wasn't lying! | 18:16 |
| chris4585 | that is a good spot to be | 18:16 |
| wrst | ha ha xTEMPLARx | 18:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | =] | 18:17 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, lol I turn off and unplug my computer station before I sleep | 18:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | makes sense | 18:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | you work from homoe? | 18:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | EEK | 18:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | home* | 18:17 |
| chris4585 | right now no job | 18:18 |
| wrst | i never turn off a computer until it fries... i might should do that | 18:18 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: my machines run 24-7 too | 18:18 |
| xTEMPLARx | my last desktop machine at the house never got shut off till I shut it off to put my new computer together | 18:19 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: my laptop really doesnt' need to sometimes i read while i'm in bed adn will suspend or power it off but if not its always on | 18:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | I use my iPad for that stuff, so it stays on pretty much always | 18:19 |
| wrst | i have a server that runs 24x7x365(6 if a leap year) | 18:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | thats not the one that hosts quassel is it? | 18:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | coz if so it goes down sometimes XD | 18:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | and dont blame the power company! | 18:23 |
| wrst | ha ha xTEMPLARx yes that's the one its been on a good streak here recently | 18:27 |
| wrst | lvm really messed me up | 18:27 |
| wrst | but i have that fixed | 18:27 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 18:28 |
| xTEMPLARx | can't fault ya for 1 or 2 unintended outages over the course of a year | 18:28 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I never turned my computer off until I left skype on all night and my computer died | 18:28 |
| xTEMPLARx | strange | 18:28 |
| chris4585 | well there was some strange bug or something causing my cpu to spike for long periods of time while I was asleep | 18:29 |
| chris4585 | since then I monitor my cpu's temp always | 18:30 |
| wrst | chris4585: it was a microsoft plot | 18:30 |
| wrst | using skype to destroy the world | 18:30 |
| xTEMPLARx | MUHUHAHAHA | 18:30 |
| xTEMPLARx | er | 18:30 |
| xTEMPLARx | i mean | 18:30 |
| xTEMPLARx | no that bug is fixed now | 18:30 |
| chris4585 | lol, probably | 18:30 |
| xTEMPLARx | feel free to leave it on, unattended | 18:30 |
| wrst | ha ha | 18:31 |
| chris4585 | also I turn off my computer to regulate the temp in my room, it gets hot in florida :D | 18:32 |
| xTEMPLARx | ah yes | 18:40 |
| xTEMPLARx | my favorite place when I visit one of our customers in Fort Myers, FL is their server room | 18:40 |
| wrst | they have a good A/C i hope xTEMPLARx? | 18:42 |
| xTEMPLARx | oh man | 18:43 |
| xTEMPLARx | and humidity control :D | 18:43 |
| wrst | nice | 18:43 |
| wrst | humidity... i hate it | 18:43 |
| chris4585 | you wouldn't like florida, its been so humid lately due to the storm | 18:43 |
| wrst | chris4585: no i don't like TN in the summertime | 18:44 |
| chris4585 | speaking of which.. I wonder how new orleans is doing | 18:44 |
| wrst | i haven't seen anything terribly bad today | 18:45 |
| chris4585 | well that is good, I read that the new barrier? held up | 18:45 |
| wrst | hope so because if it won't take a Cat I they have issues | 18:46 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i have FF 15 | 19:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | you play final fantasy, eh? | 19:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | never woulda guessed | 19:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | XD | 19:06 |
| wrst | uhh games, i have a 17 month old no games :) | 19:07 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: your evil twin left? | 19:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | ipad apps aren't truly multitasking | 19:51 |
| xTEMPLARx | i switched to spotify on the ipad and poof! | 19:51 |
| wrst | the great apple says you don't need multitasking | 19:53 |
| xTEMPLARx | well in it's defense, the ipad would have to be beefed up a bit more to be good at doing so | 19:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | as it is, its excellent | 19:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | plus, the irc app does have a setting that will force it to stay connected in the background but it could eat up batteries quickly | 19:54 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: you need android and run quasseldroid you can connect straight to quassel | 19:55 |
| xTEMPLARx | no way | 19:56 |
| xTEMPLARx | apple put its thumb down on ze android | 19:56 |
| netritious | my wife has iphone for two days and has asked almost every day about switching to a nice android phone | 19:57 |
| wrst | yep i run it on my phone and tablet xTEMPLARx | 19:58 |
| wrst | really netritious? | 19:59 |
| wrst | what does she not like? | 19:59 |
| chris4585 | my friend just got an android tablet, and it seems pretty good | 20:07 |
| wrst | chris4585: i have a tablet running ICS and the OS is ok but my hardware is just so so but knew that when i bought it | 20:16 |
| chris4585 | wrst, yeah | 20:18 |
| wrst | you are just so less locked it than you are with an IOS device | 20:18 |
| xTEMPLARx | I'm not opposed to being locked in | 20:27 |
| xTEMPLARx | simply because I have one less device that "just works" without my having to worry about it getting hacked/attacked/virus-laden | 20:27 |
| xTEMPLARx | it just works as it should | 20:28 |
| xTEMPLARx | and the apple app store is so full of options that anything that's "missing" (i.e., a Quassel client) is really not a big of an inconvenience | 20:28 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i'm just jaded and bitter towards apple | 20:35 |
| wrst | i mean their logo is an apple | 20:35 |
| xTEMPLARx | heaven forbid! | 20:35 |
| xTEMPLARx | adam and eve! | 20:35 |
| wrst | i know that is just it for me | 20:35 |
| wrst | exactly xTEMPLARx | 20:35 |
| xTEMPLARx | zomg | 20:36 |
| wrst | i'm not falling | 20:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | apple's logo represents the fall of man | 20:36 |
| wrst | yep | 20:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | =] | 20:36 |
| wrst | well and really nothing says it was an apple but hey i will run with it! | 20:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | thats what all the artwork depicting the event shows | 20:36 |
| wrst | artist are never wrong, case settled! | 20:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | infallible! | 20:37 |
| wrst | amen | 20:38 |
| wrst | ohh i gotta go home burn my free bsd disk | 20:39 |
| wrst | or disc | 20:39 |
| wrst | hmm | 20:39 |
| wrst | disc refers to optical storage, so disc | 20:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 20:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | didn't know that was an official designation | 20:40 |
| wrst | wikipedia is just like an artist xTEMPLARx its infallible | 20:40 |
| wrst | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_of_disc | 20:40 |
| wrst | doesn't seem to be official but seems to be widely accepted | 20:40 |
| xTEMPLARx | which is why I use it for reference on long documents. nobody ever questions the WP | 20:40 |
| wrst | ha ha | 20:42 |
| netritious | wrst: who can say with wives? she just doesn't like it lol | 20:43 |
| netritious | might have something to do with using an android tablet for the past six months idk | 20:43 |
| wrst | netritious: here is something that may be handy for us, xTEMPLARx you too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_of_disc | 20:44 |
| wrst | ugh not that ^^^ | 20:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 20:44 |
| wrst | this | 20:44 |
| wrst | http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/11797/20120829/scientists-find-happiness-gene-in-women.htm | 20:44 |
| wrst | great... i killed the conversation! | 20:46 |
| netritious | lol "The findings surprised the researchers, because that same gene has been linked to alcoholism, aggression and generally antisocial behavior." | 20:47 |
| xTEMPLARx | is it five o'clock yet? | 20:48 |
| netritious | almost xTEMPLARx | 20:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst for once it was YOU instead of me | 20:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 20:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | netritious: how's life? | 20:48 |
| netritious | how's it goin' bud? | 20:48 |
| wrst | ha ha xTEMPLARx | 20:48 |
| netritious | oh I am to tired..helped a guy with a code feature emergency before his presentation today | 20:49 |
| wrst | netritious: i hope you got to charge emergency rates ;) | 20:49 |
| netritious | stayed up way past my bedtime and now drinking coffee at 4pm :P | 20:50 |
| wrst | take a nap! | 20:50 |
| netritious | of course I did wrst | 20:50 |
| xTEMPLARx | coffee at 4 p.m. is not normal? | 20:50 |
| * xTEMPLARx needs to rethink his life. | 20:50 | |
| netritious | can't...little girl in the next room doing homework | 20:50 |
| netritious | eh it's not normal for me XD | 20:51 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i don't think coffee is ever normal | 20:51 |
| * wrst is weird like that | 20:51 | |
| * xTEMPLARx agrees that you are, in fact, weird like that. | 20:51 | |
| netritious | lol | 20:52 |
| wrst | thanks xTEMPLARx :P | 20:52 |
| wrst | oh netritious my frankenstein system actually rebooted | 20:52 |
| netritious | nice wrst...what's it running? :D | 20:53 |
| wrst | well i don't know it was a debuntu i guess | 20:53 |
| wrst | i reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 on it | 20:53 |
| wrst | i am needing wireless cards i have to actually work which was no problem with arch but i just downloaded a free bsd net iso now | 20:53 |
| wrst | so i'm playing :) | 20:53 |
| netritious | is that the little via server or something else? | 20:53 |
| wrst | no this is an old walmart computer of some sort | 20:54 |
| wrst | i think a compaq | 20:54 |
| netritious | oh a comcrap | 20:54 |
| wrst | but i have a pair of ralink rt2561 wireless cards in it i have messed with a router etc | 20:54 |
| wrst | yes netritious :) | 20:54 |
| netritious | lol | 20:55 |
| netritious | so i did some comparisons between my daughter's win xp install and a family's ubuntu install... | 20:57 |
| netritious | mainly filesystem size :P | 20:57 |
| netritious | but they are roughly the same. maybe a few hundred MB difference | 20:58 |
| netritious | so ubuntu is getting fat | 20:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | yeah, but how much of that is just waiting, available for those times when you need that particular software, versus actively running all the time whether you're using it or not? | 20:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | ;) | 20:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | time to head out. Sniff you jerks later! | 20:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | <3 | 20:59 |
| netritious | cya | 20:59 |
| wrst | later xTEMPLARx:P | 21:00 |
| wrst | netritious: ubuntu is certainly getting fat i think | 21:01 |
| netritious | xTEMPLARx: ram utilization is about the same to | 21:01 |
| netritious | maybe a few 10's of MB difference | 21:01 |
| wrst | but that is what they do and do it pretty good but I am very impressed with the mini iso nice best of both worlds solutions | 21:01 |
| netritious | last time I installed debian without /any/ cruft (no meta-packages other than what is required to boot and access cli) was <500MB on disk and used <20MB memory. | 21:02 |
| wrst | netritious: the ubuntu install probably wasn't much different, but i installed gnome shell software ceneter all that jazz just no unity | 21:03 |
| wrst | so i was quickly bloated but bloated the way i like to bloat :) | 21:08 |
| netritious | nothing wrong with self-imposed bloat wrst :) | 23:04 |
| wrst | nah not at all i hope :) | 23:08 |
| chris4585 | I haven't used the mini iso in a while, haven't needed to, but I heard the alternative iso may disappear next release | 23:11 |
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