[01:36] <shade34321> SolarisBoy, no, it occurs before and after. I did the purge, clean, and autoclean to make sure it was all gone and tried to reinstall it
[01:36] <Hereisanotherlie> anyone familiar with a2ensite?
[01:38] <SolarisBoy> Hereisanotherlie: yea
[01:38] <SolarisBoy> its a command to enable an apache vhost
[01:38] <Hereisanotherlie> SolarisBoy: I created the symlink but the subdomain isn't showing up
[01:39] <shade34321> Is there a way to check if SSH will start on boot?
[01:39] <yoof> suggest to me a pdf reader, evince document reader doesn't cut it, i want the reader functionality to be closer to adobe reader x
[01:39] <shade34321> i know in RHEL like systems it's chkconfig
[01:40] <xangua> yoof: use adobe reader then¿
[01:40] <yoof> xangua, but does it ubuntu?
[01:41] <shade34321> nvm found i
[01:41] <shade34321> *it
[01:41] <bazhang> !info acroread partner | yoof
[01:41] <bazhang> !partner > yoof
[01:41] <xangua> yoof: open software center, to to edit,sources and in Other Software tab make sure partner is eabled; it should appear then
[01:42] <vm> how do i identify myself to irc channel here?
[01:46] <bazhang> !register | vm
[01:46] <jagginess> vm, google freenode .net , or ask #freenode for irc problems
[01:46] <bazhang> vm  #freenode for more help
[01:46] <isaiah_> is this a help channel?
[01:46] <bazhang> isaiah_, for ubuntu support, yes
[01:46] <jagginess> isaiah_, we're not paid. but we don't mind if you do.
[01:46] <isaiah_> I need assistance removing Technic Launcher and reinstalling
[01:46] <drag0nius> how do i cd into samba share?
[01:46] <jagginess> wtf is that?
[01:46] <bazhang> jagginess, watch the language
[01:46] <jagginess> oh this.. http://www.technicpack.net/
[01:46] <drag0nius> or well, cd into directory in network
[01:46] <jagginess> what does that have to do with ubuntu? hmmm
[01:46] <jagginess> .deb?
[01:46] <drag0nius> i want to make link to samba share in my home folder
[01:46] <isaiah_> thank you
[01:46] <yoof> you ar welcome
[01:46] <jagginess> Drag0nir, you want to share your home folder as a share?
[01:47] <drag0nius> no, i want to create symbolic link in my home folder which directs to LAN sharing folder which runs on Samba
[01:47] <yoof> where is the "programs folder" in ubuntu? i have trouble finding installed programs
[01:48] <drag0nius> theres no such folder in ubuntu
[01:48] <jagginess> drag0nius, don't need a symbolic link.. you can use .smbcredentials textfile with credentials and use "credentials=" as an option for the "mounting" rule for that share in /etc/fstab
[01:48] <drag0nius> closes to what you might want is /usr/bin/ there are most
[01:49] <LiDaR> hello
[01:49] <testingz1> hi
[01:49] <yoof> how are joo?
[01:49] <jagginess> drag0nius, this page is not bad.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131  (do have the cifs package installed, and modprobe smb/cifs)
[01:50] <yoof> great
[01:51] <jagginess> ,may be cifs-utils or smbfs-utils similar (apt-cache search cifs)
[01:51] <jagginess> (if you want to mount via shell, or have it automounted)
[01:51] <drag0nius> ty
[01:52] <jagginess> drag0nius, and of course there's gui apps that use dbus that don't rely on /etc/fstab, like nautilus..
[01:52] <drag0nius> i just want it to have easily accessible from cli
[01:52] <drag0nius> im quite surprised, but i cba nautilus in most cases after month of playing with ubuntu server XD
[01:58] <excervo> hello guys, any questions?
[01:58] <jagginess> excervo, what's a question? like... ?
[01:58] <drag0nius> any idea how good dota 2 runs on wine? ;D
[01:58] <jagginess> wine is awful..
[01:59] <jagginess> i'm telling mom..
[01:59] <drag0nius> what to run games with then?
[01:59] <bazhang> drag0nius, check the appdb
[01:59] <bazhang> !appdb | drag0nius
[01:59] <drag0nius> hmm it says its awful for ubuntu but gold rating on other linuxes ;d
[01:59] <bazhang> jagginess, less editorializing please, more actual helpful output
[01:59] <excervo> drag0nius, I  play Dota with playonlinux
[02:00] <jagginess> ^ :/
[02:00] <hammommah_> everytime i go to restart or shutdown i get message "gnome-settings-deamon not responding" where do i look to find problem? running 12.04.1
[02:00] <jagginess> come on ubuntu support here..
[02:00] <bazhang> !behelpful | jagginess
[02:00] <jagginess> bazhang, games is fun.. but not for me right now.
[02:00] <jagginess> ^_^
[02:00] <drag0nius> excevro dota2 or just dota?
[02:01] <excervo> drag0nius, just Dota
[02:02] <unless> I cannot change the $PS1 var value if not root.
[02:02] <drag0nius> i guess restarting xwindows while ubuntu is updating aint best idea?
[02:03] <MirtheN> leave it up to valve and dota2 will run natively in linux eventually
[02:03] <jagginess> drag0nius, not really, the upgrading process can be a subprocess you dont want to kill
[02:03] <drag0nius> dota2 is kinda only thing keeping me at windows ;d
[02:03] <drag0nius> and maybe notepad++
[02:03] <hammommah_> ant ideas on gnome-settings deamon not responding?
[02:03] <jagginess> drag0nius, if you're upgrading from plain text (ctl-alt-f1, ctl-alt-f7 or f8 to come back to gui), then it's fine
[02:04] <drag0nius> nice one, separate consoles just like on server
[02:04] <drag0nius> didnt know ;d
[02:04] <drag0nius> could i run like separate GUIs with it?
[02:05] <jagginess> drag0nius, you can, but it's more trouble than benefitting from it
[02:05] <drag0nius> i wonder about one more thing
[02:05] <jagginess> drag0nius, there's something called multiseat.. so you can have multi-users etc.. (two keyboards, two monitors).. someone was asking this last week..
[02:05] <drag0nius> would it be possible to stream games from server
[02:06] <drag0nius> by stream i mean run the game on server and interact from other comp
[02:06] <drag0nius> i saw sth like that over internet
[02:06] <jagginess> drag0nius, desura.com is supposed to challenge valve i think, but i tried desura on ubuntu, and the free games are total crap..
[02:06] <elkingrey> I've just plugged my android in through USB and for some reason Ubuntu isn't showing the external drive. It did the first time I loaded the android, but now it won't. How do I locate the external drive?
[02:06] <drag0nius> valve is moving to ubuntu
[02:06] <jagginess> drag0nius, you can try desura, but you may find it more exciting than i did :/
[02:06] <drag0nius> or at least starts developing for it
[02:07] <drag0nius> afaik theres linux steam along with l4d ;d
[02:07] <jagginess> drag0nius, yeah.. i heard a linux thing is supposed to come out for it.. dunno what its status is.. i've given up waiting for it
[02:07] <nathdep_> Hello! I need some help.
[02:08] <jagginess> drag0nius, this is extremely easy to check out on ubuntu .. http://www.desura.com/
[02:08] <rocknblogger> nathdep_ just ask your question. If someone knows the answer they will help you
[02:08] <drag0nius> there sno dota 2
[02:08] <drag0nius> no reason to start it XD
[02:08] <jagginess> drag0nius, it's for linux too.. (no need for wine)
[02:09] <drag0nius> does it have windows games on it?
[02:10] <nathdep_> Well I just installed Ubuntu after using Windows XP. I have noticed some strange behavior, though. When I boot up my computer, the screens appear glitchy until I get to the welcome screen. When I get there, it is extremely slow (the mouse lags quite a bit). After that, everything is very fast except for a few short periods when it is slow. Also, adobe flash player is a little glitchy, too.
[02:10] <jagginess> Drag0nir, i no expert, but apparently there are separate downloads, so you'll have to click a filter on linux-only, and of course there's much less than the other platforms
[02:10] <drag0nius> im not really into trying anything new
[02:10] <drag0nius> i'm happy with ~5 windows games over last years
[02:10] <jagginess> Drag0nir, if desura catches on, then i expect many more games within the next two years with it.. then that means this is successful..
[02:10] <drag0nius> i hope so
[02:11] <drag0nius> got bored of M$
[02:11] <nathdep_> Is there anything I can do that will help?
[02:11] <rocknblogger> nathdep_ So you overall complaint is whay? That it's laggy?
[02:11] <bazhang> !ot | drag0nius jagginess
[02:11] <nathdep_> Well I'm just not sure why it is lagging only on the welcome screen .
[02:11] <jagginess> well I did say "ubuntu support" before.
[02:11] <jagginess> lol
[02:11] <jagginess> silly op.
[02:12] <Smackbook> oh no, I accidentally added /dev/sda1 to my mdadm array instead of /dev/sda, is it possible to cancel the grow operation that just started?
[02:13] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: you can probably fail it after remove it and add it back correctly
[02:13] <rocknblogger> If it's only the welcome screen then is it really a problem? If once you get to your desktop and everything runs smoothly then your oklay, no? Maybe someone else will give a different answer. I would also recommend removing the flash plugin and reinstalling it. Make sure to install from official repo
[02:14] <SolarisBoy> fail and then remove it that is
[02:15] <nathdep_> Well, I installed ubuntu after using a live CD and for some reason, when I booted using the CD, a screen with white and black lines would appear and then disappear before loading the welcome screen. I'm not sure if this somewhat glitchy behavior is realted tho this.
[02:16] <rocknblogger> nathdep_ Sorry without seeing it I wouldn't know. Someone else may answer your question better. Just be patient. If no answer in 30 minutes ask again
[02:17] <nathdep_> Well I also posted a quesiton on lanuchpad so maybe somebody there can help too.
[02:17] <rocknblogger> nathdep_ Also don't forget ubuntu forums. It's a fantastic community there
[02:18] <nathdep_> I guess my question is why does ubuntu run a little slower if I ran Windows XP and there wasn't much lagging/glitches?
[02:18] <Smackbook> solaris
[02:18] <Smackbook> oops
[02:18] <Smackbook> SolarisBoy: thanks
[02:18] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: your welcome
[02:19] <LiDaR> nathdep_: i cant decide if your trolling or if you want help
[02:20]  * SolarisBoy trollalalala
[02:20] <nathdep_> I'm not trolling... I'm extremely new to linux and was wondering if any of this needs attention.
[02:20] <drag0nius> how was it to restart x server?
[02:20] <ImperialDroid> nathdep_, its because Windows is so good ;P
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> drag0nius: sudo lightdm restart?
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> grr sudo service lightdm restart
[02:21] <nathdep_> Well besides the very few lags, I would definitely use Ubuntu over Windows anyday.
[02:21] <nathdep_> I just wanted to know if there was an easy fix to the lags...
[02:21] <LiDaR> nathdep_: are you using unity ?
[02:22] <nathdep_> I think so.
[02:22] <nathdep_> Yes I am.
[02:22] <LiDaR> nathdep_: install lxde or xfce .. and try one of those they perform way better on slow computers
[02:24] <Smackbook> SolarisBoy: i failed it with sudo mdadm --fail /dev/md0 /dev/sda1  and it says it failed it but cat /proc/mdstat still shows the reshape moving along... any idea whats happening?
[02:24] <nathdep_> I don't mean to sound like a total noob but how would I go about installing lxde?
[02:24] <bazhang> the package lubuntu-desktop nathdep_
[02:24] <RJ_F1> SolarisBoy: I'm back.
[02:24] <drag0nius> erm sth totally ...
[02:24] <drag0nius> after update
[02:24] <nathdep_> Which command would I use in the terminal?
[02:25] <drag0nius> i've set X server to dual monitors with xinerama
[02:25] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: i initially meant let it add
[02:25] <SolarisBoy> RJ_F1: k
[02:25] <d34d1ys1nz> Does anyone know of a good video that covers the basics of ubuntu?
[02:25] <drag0nius> unity bar turned grey
[02:25] <LiDaR> nathdep_: sudo apt-get install lxde
[02:25] <drag0nius> when i go to right side of screen
[02:25] <drag0nius> mouse pops on my right screen
[02:25] <nathdep_> Thank you so much!
[02:25] <drag0nius> at the edge of right screen
[02:25] <bazhang> !enter | drag0nius
[02:25] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: let the device finish adding then remove it - if you were going to add the whole disk no data would have been on /dev/sda1 that was important anyway
[02:26] <SolarisBoy> prolly best to let it finish - fail it - remove it and add back the whole disk versus the partition
[02:26] <drag0nius> x window did not restart also
[02:26] <ariqs> my father just called me p saying that he updated ubuntu and now he doesn't have a selection to choose windows or ubuntu at the selection screen. Happen to know what happened?
[02:27] <Smackbook> SolarisBoy: oh man, lol, so I already failed it, can I un-fail it somehow to let it finish?
[02:27] <RJ_F1> ariqs: sudo update-grub ?
[02:27] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: nope
[02:27] <RJ_F1> without using the question mark in the command, that is
[02:27] <ariqs> RJ_F1: you think that is all taht is needeD?
[02:27] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: im sure the fail was queued waiting on the rebuild though
[02:27] <Smackbook> SolarisBoy: ahh... is that necessarily the case since its still reshaping?
[02:28] <Smackbook> meaning does that prove it?
[02:28] <SolarisBoy> rebuild/reshape same stuff
[02:28] <SolarisBoy> i'd say
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> what type of raid is it?>
[02:29] <Smackbook> md0 : active raid5 sda1[5](F) sde[4] sdc[1] sdb[0] sdd[2]
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> you should be fine
[02:29] <drag0nius> ubuntu does not support multiple monitors or what?
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> was that just a new disk you were adding?
[02:29] <Smackbook> yep
[02:30] <SolarisBoy> you should be fine
[02:30] <drag0nius> now my left screen went plain white
[02:30] <nathdep> I really wish I could show you the screen right before the welcome screen. It does not look normal.
[02:30] <Smackbook> ok, then heh I guess I'll keep working on this tomorrow after its done adding
[02:31] <LiDaR> nathdep: multi colored squares ?
[02:31] <bazhang> nathdep, try out lubuntu yet? the lubuntu-desktop package will enable that
[02:31] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: yea and maybe if it's "stuck" you reboot and take the next best action
[02:31] <nathdep> Yes!
[02:31] <Smackbook> SolarisBoy: its definatly moving forward...vvveeerrryyyyy slloooowwwlly ;p
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> Smackbook: oh cool then
[02:32] <drag0nius> are there some problems with nvidia GPUs on 12.04 64bit?
[02:32] <tacorama> I cant seem to figur out how to run everything as root
[02:32] <LiDaR> nathdep: what cpu / ram / graphics that computer have ?
[02:32] <bazhang> tacorama, you dont
[02:32] <tacorama> I got irc working in root
[02:32] <bazhang> tacorama, is this ubuntu or backtrack
[02:33] <Smackbook> should be finished adding in just 20 more hours ;p
[02:33] <Smackbook> and then i can remove it and add it back ;(
[02:33] <Smackbook> but yeah thanks for the advice
[02:34] <nathdep> Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz × 2  3.9 GiB and I'm I think nvidia
[02:36] <LiDaR> nathdep: thats plenty fast it should work fine
[02:36] <drag0nius> well, whatever another restart
[02:36] <nathdep> what are the multi colored squares about?
[02:37] <Newtoubuntu> This intel graphic issue is ridiculous!
[02:38] <Newtoubuntu> Only until i adjusted my brightness at the grub screen is when my graphic driver kicked in
[02:38] <SolarisBoy> Newtoubuntu: you mean to full resolution?
[02:39] <Newtoubuntu> how can i make this stick? ive tried a few other ways with no luck.
[02:40] <Newtoubuntu> SolarisBoy: yes i could not get my full res for anything
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> if so that happened to me as well =( its weird
[02:40] <Newtoubuntu> well its not that weird, its been happening for years as ive found on fourums
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> no clue dude - it was amazingly odd - my cat actually jumped on my keyboard pressed some odd keyboard combo and BAM res went to full capability
[02:40] <Newtoubuntu> i HOPE to god it sticks when i reboot
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> i never heard of it
[02:40] <Newtoubuntu> LOL
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> Newtoubuntu: it did for me
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> AFTER my cat jumped on my keyboard
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> Newtoubuntu: maybe you need a cat
[02:40] <Newtoubuntu> that is priceless and i have one my friend
[02:40] <Newtoubuntu> LOLLLLL
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> =)
[02:41] <nathdep> I
[02:41] <nathdep> whoops sorry
[02:41] <SolarisBoy> but seriously i think it only worked when the keyboard combo to increase res was hit.. by my cat..
[02:41] <SolarisBoy> so you can do that to test - but it stuck for me luckily
[02:42] <Newtoubuntu> so only until i adjusted the brightness at the grub screen did i get full res, i had to do the nomodeset to even boot up properly
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> shame
[02:42] <semitones> semitones_tea: where are you?
[02:42] <Newtoubuntu> havnt restarted since as id hope someone else would have an answer
[02:43] <RJ_F1_> Solaris, hit me on here
[02:43] <Newtoubuntu> ill try soon and hope it sticks. im really starting to enjoy this OS. i mean my win 7 is excellent but has its downfalls. i enjoy the option of multiple Os's :)
[02:45] <gmachine_24> Is there a way to encrypt an external hard drive after I have put data on that drive?
[02:45] <gmachine_24> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[02:46] <Newtoubuntu> gmachine_24, i know there was software on windows so im sure there is on ubuntu. why are you encrypting may i ask ;)
[02:47] <hfic> gmachine_24, I believe you can use truecrypt
[02:47] <Newtoubuntu> thats the program i used on windows
[02:48] <Newtoubuntu> excellent stuff
[02:48] <hfic> It's cross platform
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[02:48] <Newtoubuntu> suhweeet
[02:48] <gmachine_24> I use truecrypt but you must create a partition/volume before copying any files there
[02:48] <gmachine_24> an encrypted partition/volume
[02:48] <Newtoubuntu> so why not partition
[02:49] <gmachine_24> Because there already are a lot of files on the drive; I'm attempting to avoid copying them again.
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> with the way encrytion works i dont see that being possible
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> atleast nothing common
[02:49] <hfic> you can use a locker. So instead of encrypting the drive. you encrypt the folder or 'locker' with it's predetermined size off the main partition
[02:49] <gmachine_24> SolarisBoy, me either. But I thought I'd ask.
[02:49] <jrbergdorff> can anyone tell me how to set up the wifi for my printer....Canon Pixma MP560
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> in most cases you encrypt the drive from installation create the keys and such and as you read/write things are encrypted
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> in order to do that it's like a massive copy decryption operation that would require more than one drive
[02:50] <gmachine_24> SolarisBoy, yes, that is what I usually do. This one just got away from me.. .
[02:50] <Newtoubuntu> right
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> gmachine_24: cool
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> gmachine_24: i was looking for the same =)
[02:50] <hfic> ugh ... again truecrypt will allow u to do what ur looking for
[02:50] <gmachine_24> How about this: Can I somehow password protect the hard drive at least?
[02:51] <joegiampaoli> I've been trying to find a fix for this but just can't, some websites on firefox (on very rare occasions) display text in an unknown font style what font should I have installed? Screenie attached: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B89XHw6WcgFvY2FuZWNzZVNYU2c/edit
[02:51] <jrbergdorff> I am so new and needing a little help!
[02:51] <gmachine_24> hfic: I can encrypt data that already is on the external hard drive; this is what you're telling me... am I correct?
[02:51] <Newtoubuntu> So how do you all feel about the cloud?  am a little concerned any average joe can
[02:51] <Newtoubuntu> whoops
[02:51] <Newtoubuntu> any average joe employee can access whatever they like
[02:52] <gmachine_24> Newtoubuntu, I think the cloud is completely overhyped
[02:52] <Meris> Newtoubuntu, not if you encrypt your data with a strong key
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> i think the cloud has it's places
[02:52] <hfic> gmachine_24, you can't encrypt something that isn't originally encrypted. but when you can do is create a locker 'folder' thru truecrypt and move the stuff over. This is the only way you can accomplish your task
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> and yes most cloud implementations enforce encryption for access
[02:52] <gmachine_24> SolarisBoy, I would not put anything on a cloud computer I wouldn't want my grandmother to see
[02:52] <Newtoubuntu> LOL yes gents i agree
[02:53] <gmachine_24> hfic, right, that is what I thought. I have been attempting to avoid that but it seems impossible.
[02:53] <Newtoubuntu> Is the ubuntu one encrypted?
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> if you wanted to have a fast scalable deployment with little cost commitment you can use the cloud
[02:53] <Meris> Newtoubuntu, how do you know if we are all gents? Hmm?
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> most people are incorrectly using it afaik
[02:53] <gmachine_24> Newtoubuntu, it can be
[02:53] <Newtoubuntu> okay... ladies as well. hahaha.
[02:53] <jrbergdorff> can anyone help with a printer issue?
[02:53] <Meris> jrbergdorff, what brand and model of printer do you have?
[02:54] <jrbergdorff> Canon Pixma MP560
[02:55] <jrbergdorff> Meris, I have the printer installed, but unsure how to get the WiFi print to work
[02:56] <Newtoubuntu> wifi print is such a pain in the ass
[02:56] <Meris> jrbergdorff, in that case, just tell Ubuntu you are trying to install a network printer and type the corresponding IP-address.
[02:56] <Newtoubuntu> ive had problems with my cannon
[02:56] <gmachine_24> jrbergdorff, what version of ubuntu are you using
[02:56] <jrbergdorff> how do I know what the IP-address is, I'm new to all this
[02:56] <jrbergdorff> 12.04
[02:56] <Newtoubuntu> oh ish i just seen you had a cannon
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> jrbergdorff: sometimes the printers are able to print their network settings to the LED
[02:57] <jrbergdorff> k, let me try this
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> otherwise if you are able to access your router and it's dhcp clients you may find it there
[02:57] <Newtoubuntu> make sure you have the actual wifi turned ON, on the printers settings. should have a blue light lit up
[02:57] <gmachine_24> jrbergdorff, can you get the info from your router?
[02:57] <Meris> jrbergdorff, most printers will have an option of printing this data by clicking on a sequence of buttons, or holding a button, look it up in your manual.
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> gmachine_24: yea but it's likely easier to get it from the printer if applicable
[02:58] <jrbergdorff> possibly, my husband has an ALFA box running...
[02:58] <Newtoubuntu> the cannons wifi is throught the settings, network if i remember correctly
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> my printer did this weird wps thing that was interesting
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> luckily my router supported it or i would have been pissed
[02:58] <Meris> jrbergdorff, Alfa? Nice...so it runs RiscOS?
[02:58] <jrbergdorff> k, at the newtwork select device
[02:58] <jrbergdorff> yeah
[02:59] <jrbergdorff> My husband has a master's in Computer Science, but he's sleeping
[02:59] <Meris> jrbergdorff, but how does that relate to your router, or *is* the alfa box functioning as router as well?
[02:59] <jrbergdorff> functioning as router
[03:00] <Meris> jrbergdorff, if CUPS is running on the thing and you know the IP-address, this should not be hard, provided you have the proper passwords.
[03:01] <gmachine_24> OK, so I am creating the encrypted file within the container or whatever - it says this is for beginners..... :)
[03:01] <Meris> jrbergdorff, try: http://[IP-address of router]:631
[03:03] <jrbergdorff> ha, think I got it!
[03:03] <Newtoubuntu> niceee
[03:03] <gmachine_24> you and eliza doolittle
[03:04] <david> Hello, How can I get gimp 2.8 on ubuntu
[03:04] <Newtoubuntu> anyone know why my edited grub settings didnt stick properly after i followed the exact instructions? i did update grub and reboot aswell
[03:04] <gry> !info gimp
[03:05] <gry> david, http://www.unixmen.com/gimp-2-8-is-out-ppa-ubuntu/
[03:06] <gmachine_24> david the gimp web site says you can install gimp from the ubuntu software center
[03:06] <ljsoftnet> i can't set my desired resolution with Nvidia X, how can i apply resolution?
[03:07] <devnill> In views I have an exposed filter which is connect to a taxonomy term. When I'm searching with "is one of [term]" I get no results, but if I have the "is not one of [term]" it will display all results EXCEPT the one I entered.
[03:07] <Newtoubuntu> ljsoftnet: this is a massive problem on ubuntu that i am battling as well. as ridiculous as it sounds on the purple grub sounds try adjusting the brightness before you boot into ubunt and see if the drivers take. literally just worked for me about 20 mins ago
[03:08] <Newtoubuntu> Ljsoftnet: of course update all necessary drivers as well
[03:09] <ljsoftnet> Newtoubuntu what do you mean by purple grub sounds?
[03:11] <Newtoubuntu> ljsoftnet: sorry i meant "screen"
[03:11] <Newtoubuntu> im juggling 3 things here
[03:11] <Newtoubuntu> did you have an issue booting into ubuntu at all?
[03:14] <ljsoftnet> i can't set my desired resolution with Nvidia X, how can i apply resolution?
[03:15] <voldial> I have scripts that do distribution specific things like "yum install wget make ocaml ctags-etags which openssh-clients -y" (build deps for unison) is there a framework out there that makes it easier to make these scripts cross platform by (for example) mapping package names to the apt repos?
[03:15] <Newtoubuntu> ljsoftnet: what did i just say? i wasnt able to get the proper resolution either untill that unreal brightness fix. it instantly worked and self adjusted after
[03:16] <voldial> cross distro I mean
[03:19] <acer> hey tehre, when i do "sudo ldconfig" i get this message: /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libtk8.5.so.0 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[03:19] <acer> im on ubuntu 12.04
[03:19] <LiDaR> whats the lowest amount of ram usage you guys have achieved ?
[03:20] <gry> LiDaR, I didn't try too much but it's around 200MB for me onboot
[03:20] <LiDaR> i got down to 213 cant seem to get lower
[03:23] <arejay> can anyone help  http://pastebin.com/0p5iy4Dxc i cant run apt-get upgrade because libept1.4.12 is broken
[03:23] <gry> arejay, unknown paste id, please repaste
[03:23] <arejay> sec
[03:24] <arejay>  http://pastebin.com/dp5iy4Dx
[03:24] <arejay> i think ubuntu is borked
[03:24] <arejay> :(
[03:24] <gry> arejay, http://pastebin.com/dp5iy4Dx unknown paste id
[03:25] <gry> arejay, try paste.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <arejay> http://pastebin.com/index/0p5iy4Dx
[03:26] <gry> yes, that works, let's see
[03:26] <deserteagle> hello all! anyone familiar with Audacious?
[03:26] <Newtoubuntu> Any tips for a new user ?
[03:26] <Newtoubuntu> such as installs
[03:26] <deserteagle> i just compiled Audacious and Audacious-plugin, but the MP3 input is off. How do I get it back on?
[03:27] <Newtoubuntu> i have already installed flash, updates, and codes.
[03:28] <xangua> deserteagle: or you could have installed audacious from software center
[03:28] <Ububegin> whenever, i use the synaptic manager, *E: sun-java6-jdk: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2*  .. i am shown this irritating error.. Anyways to remove this
[03:29] <deserteagle> xangua: except SC has an old version that has an annoying bug :(
[03:30] <Ann-Mariya> Happy ONAM !!!!!!!!	
[03:31] <arejay> sorry battery died
[03:31] <arejay> any ideas?
[03:31] <domino14> a script in /etc/init.d isn't starting
[03:31] <domino14> i added it with this: sudo update-rc.d redis_6379 defaults
[03:32] <gry> arejay, see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/196633 and http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1925652.html, may want to back things up, follow first link steps, if fail then check hard drive errors and reinstall
[03:32] <domino14> and then i can do sudo /etc/init.d/redis_6379 start and it starts, but it won't start on reboot
[03:32] <Newtoubuntu> is the windows ad block addon available for ubuntu? what other addons do you all recommend aswell ?
[03:32] <Ann-Mariya> How can I update Gimp 2.6 to 2.8 in ubuntu 12.04 ???
[03:33] <gry> Ann-Mariya, 2.6 is the supported version, see http://www.unixmen.com/gimp-2-8-is-out-ppa-ubuntu/ for more (help in #gimp)
[03:33] <gry> !info gimp | Ann-Mariya
[03:33] <xangua> deserteagle: i use a ppa, the webupd8 ppa, and have the latest stable audacious; of course use a ppa or any third party repository on your own risk ;)
[03:34] <Ann-Mariya> !info gimp | gry
[03:35] <johnwerneken> hi
[03:35] <gry> hi
[03:36] <johnwerneken> grr refreshes
[03:37] <acer> how to i reinstall the package that has /usr/lib/libtk8.5.so.0
[03:37] <acer> ?
[03:37] <acer> im sorta newb so.. if anyone could help i'd very much appreciate it
[03:38] <trism> acer: sudo apt-get install --reinstall tk8.5; dpkg -S /path/to/file; can help you to locate the packages
[03:38] <acer> ok ill do that
[03:39] <Nautilus> hmmmm... in 10.04 I'm using Brasero to burn some directories... it's estimating the project size so slow it will take an hour+ ... is that right?!
[03:39] <komodo69> excuse me all....is there an off-topic channel for ubuntu?  just for general chat, etc.?
[03:40] <Flannel> komodo69: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <deserteagle> xangua: you rock! thanks :D
[03:40] <arejay> got it
[03:40] <assdfj3333> halp   /bin/ls: error loading shared libraries: cannot load /lib/libc.so
[03:40] <acer> trism thank you, i was having a wrong ELF magic bytes  error, thank you very much sir
[03:40] <komodo69> @Flannel:  #ubuntu-offtopic; should have guessed....thanks bro
[03:41] <acer> trism, thanks for helping me solve it :)
[03:41] <trism> acer: you're welcome
[03:41] <assdfj3333> trism, halp?
[03:42] <DarkAceLaptop> There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[03:42] <DarkAceLaptop> Failed to execute child process "cd" (No such file or directory)
[03:42] <DarkAceLaptop> it works when I do it manually
[03:43] <trism> assdfj3333: do any other executables work? echo hello; ?
[03:48] <DarkAceLaptop> !patience > DarkAceLaptop
[03:48] <johnwerneken> I was hanging around here WHINING about my attempts to install Ubuntu to dual boot with win7 win8 win8 server
[03:48] <johnwerneken> FOUND A SOLTION
[03:48] <johnwerneken> http://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/comment-page-2/#comment-157120
[03:48] <johnwerneken> Works on win8! (RP - or is it RC, the install named the partition "RC" lol, the more expected name, considering Microsoft)
[03:48] <johnwerneken> Couple caveats for Windows ppeeple (I have been abused by Microsoft for over 35 years lol)
[03:48] <johnwerneken> 1. IF you have existing partitions, as I did, you will probably get different sda numbers than in the example: USE THE PARTITION NUMBERS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE in following the excamples.
[03:48] <johnwerneken> 2. IF you have NTFS and ext partitions already, you need not re-create them; possibly the only new one needed from GPartition Live might be the FAT32 to copy linux.bin to and from.
[03:48] <FloodBot1> johnwerneken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:48] <assdfj3333> trism, oh god wtf
[03:49] <johnwerneken> oh sdorry i forgot the long-post convention
[03:52] <Meris> Does anyone know why the std. Ubuntu kernel does not support rarp?
[03:52] <natsirt|2> do you guys recommend reading Linux in a nushell?
[03:52] <blackshirt> what rarp?
[03:53] <Meris> blackshirt, rarp stands for Reverse Address Resolution Protocol
[03:53] <blackshirt> natsirt2, what do you need?
[03:53] <assdfj3333> natsirt|2, if you learn fast by reading books, sure, otherwise just do stuff and read what you need to do it
[03:54] <blackshirt> meris, are you the std kernel doesn't support rarp?
[03:54] <natsirt|2> I wish i could save books to my brain
[03:54] <Meris> blackshirt, here's a quote from my terminal: rarp -a
[03:54] <Meris> This kernel does not support RARP.
[03:55] <Meris> The kernel I'm running is : 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:56] <Meris> blackshirt, can't be anymore clear than this, now can it?
[03:59] <Meris> if jrbergdorff comes back, please tell her that I have gone to sleep.
[03:59] <marcm> Hey there
[03:59] <blackshirt> meris, nothing experience with rarp guys
[03:59] <marcm> are there any repositories with Apache 2.4 for Ubuntu 12.04?
[04:00] <sam_nazarko> Is there a way to change the font size for a Bash dialog?
[04:00] <trism> Meris: man rarp; might explain it: This  program  is  obsolete.   From  version  2.3,  the  Linux kernel no longer contains RARP support.
[04:00] <Meris> blackshirt, could you rephrase that? It's not entirely clear what you mean.
[04:00] <trism> Meris: although that manpage is very old as well
[04:01] <Meris> trism, hmm, rarp is quite handy, is there any substitute?
[04:01] <david> Is there a way to install Just the KDE desktop and not Kubuntu and all of its applications. I notice that Have more than one desktop envoirment gives a either duplicate programs or extra programs that I dont need.
[04:01] <Meris> trism, I need to get an IP-address (unknown), belong to a known MAC-address.
[04:01] <Meris> trism, I need to get an IP-address (unknown), belong>ing< to a known MAC-address.
[04:02] <sam_nazarko> Meris: check arp cache
[04:03] <jrbergdorff> can anyone help me with a wifi issue for a Canon Pixma MP560 Printer?
[04:04] <trism> Meris: sorry I'm not really sure how
[04:05] <sam_nazarko> Meris: arp | grep MAC
[04:05] <sam_nazarko> where MAC = your MAC
[04:05] <sam_nazarko> sorry arp -e
[04:07] <sam_nazarko> where is framebufer font size defined in ubuntu? console-setup?
[04:07] <komodo69> rarp is included in net-tools package.  maybe you have to add entry to cache before you can look it up?  rarp [<HW>] -s <hostname> <hwaddr>    add entry to cache.
[04:09] <membreya> stupid question but i want to get rid of all .net packages on my ubuntu install and only run dotnet 3.5/40
[04:10] <lidar> i dont think i have any .net packagesin my ubuntu :(
[04:10] <tarant> hey hi
[04:10] <tarant> someone there?
[04:11] <komodo69> you rang?
[04:11] <blackshirt> hei tarant
[04:12] <mcnellis> I'm trying to cat one file, and zcat another and then grep the concatenation of both files - how can I best do that?
[04:12] <mcnellis> I was firs trying to cat file1 && zcat file2 but then didn't know how to get it into grep
[04:13] <mcnellis> maybe grep "searchstr" < `cat file1 && zcat file2.gz`
[04:13] <lidar> cat foo > floo && zcat foo1 >> floo && grep poo floo
[04:14] <Jordan_U> mcnellis: { cat foo && zcat bar } | grep baz
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer every cold boot in precise?
[04:15] <Archio> Hey guys, I'm installing 12.04 to dual-boot with Win7 on a Thinkpad T430. Ran into the "not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location" error. Which "different device" should I install the bootloader on?
[04:15] <lidar> lotuspsychje, wb ! congrats on persistance
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> lidar: lol as long as its not fixxed :p
[04:16] <Smackbook> did synaptics do away with the SoftButtonAreas option that would populate [Right,Middle]ButtonArea[Left,Right,Top,Bottom]?
[04:16] <lidar> lotuspsychje, does restarting fix it .. or it has to be a reboot ?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Archio: Does this machine use FakeRAID?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> lidar: how would you feel a square mouse every cold boot
[04:16] <lidar> lotuspsychje, restarting x
[04:16] <Archio> @Jordan_U Not sure what you mean... it's a brand new Thinkpad with Win7 installed
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> lidar: a reboot temp fix, next morning cold boot its corrupt again
[04:17] <subcool> hey- really need assitance..
[04:17] <Nicolas_Leonida2> hi, I have an ubuntu server, that I connect to with SSH, PUTTY, I think I've read somewhere that I can run x server on it, then launch it from within my windows
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Archio: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo blkid".
[04:17] <subcool> i got a bug report saying i have to upgrade my network manager.. - What is the network manager in use?
[04:17] <lidar> lotuspsychje, have you tried unloading/reloading the module ?
[04:17] <Archio> not sure what fakeraid is.... my options are /dev/sdb, /dev/sda (ATA HITACHI, my HDD), /dev/sda1 Windows 7 (loader), and /dev/sda5
[04:17] <boompow> hi i have an 'uncleen' windows xp ntfs drive that is failing to boot or load safe mode
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> lidar: no, howto reload?
[04:17] <The_Matrix> Does anyone know any good songs?
[04:17] <boompow> any ideas on how to get it booting again
[04:18] <Archio> @Jordan_U how do I run the command with this error up during installation?
[04:18] <gmachine_24> subcool - network manager starts when you boot the computer
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !ot | The_Matrix
[04:18] <The_Matrix> Oh ok
[04:18] <The_Matrix> Lol sorry
[04:18] <gmachine_24> or it's one of the things that starts on the way to your desktop
[04:18] <Jordan_U> Archio: You would have had to have chosen to start a live session before starting the installer.
[04:18] <lidar> lotuspsychje, rmmod whatever and then modprobe whatever ..
[04:18] <boompow> hi i have an 'uncleen' windows xp ntfs drive that is failing to boot or load safe mode
[04:18] <boompow> any ideas on how to get it booting again
[04:19] <lidar> !patience > boompow
[04:19] <gmachine_24> subcool, updating a network manager is no big thing
[04:19] <mcnellis> Jordan_U, that gives me > as if the command is incomplete ... { zcat access.t.log-20120828-1346160722.gz && cat access.t.log } | grep Amazon
[04:19] <Jordan_U> Archio: The only correct options are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, and if /dev/sda is your internal drive that sounds like the one you want to choose.
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> lidar: ok ill try that when im on the desktop
[04:19] <Jordan_U> mcnellis: Sorry, I forgot a semicolon.
[04:19] <mcnellis> Ah, Jordan_U I needed a ; at the end of my staemetn in {
[04:19] <lidar> lotuspsychje, you will need to stop x and restart it also perhaps
[04:19] <subcool> gmachine_24, i know it start at boot- but i keep on recieving erros, after filing a bug report- i got a response saying the software is out of date, and to upgrade to plasma nm..
[04:20] <Archio> @Jordan_U Ah, so installing it on /dev/sda won't wipe out windows right?
[04:20] <boompow> hi i have an 'uncleen' windows xp ntfs drive that is failing to boot or load safe mode
[04:20] <Jordan_U> Archio: It certainly will not.
[04:20] <boompow> hi i have an 'uncleen' windows xp ntfs drive that is failing to boot or load safe mode
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> lidar: ok tnx
[04:20] <boompow> any ideas on how to get it booting again
[04:20] <Archio> @Jordan_U Thanks, trying that now
[04:20] <mcnellis> yeah, cool thanks Jordan_U, this works! The method I stated gave me a memory error b/c both file 1 and 2 are 2 GB uncompressed heh
[04:21] <Jordan_U> boompow: Try asking in ##windows.
[04:21] <lidar> lotuspsychje, that wont fix it .. but it will prove if its a kernel module issue
[04:21] <Jordan_U> mcnellis: You're welcome.
[04:21] <gmachine_24> subcool, you are running kde, right?
[04:21] <boompow> i don't know why i would go to windows
[04:21] <boompow> for a problem ubuntu caused
[04:21] <boompow> but i did it just in case
[04:21] <subcool> gmachine_24, yea- they said im running on outdate version of that too.. :/
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> lidar: im desperate to understand why it does that on several systems
[04:21] <gmachine_24> subcool, well, what are you running
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> lidar: i got it on 2 systems with older ati cards
[04:22] <lidar> lotuspsychje, you have the problem on multiple computers :O i thought just one
[04:22] <yashwant> hi i am using ubuntu 12.02, this ubuntu feature little bit alter then 10.10 so i changed the root permission, i have given 777 now my sudo command is not working what can i do now? please help me
[04:22] <subcool> gmachine_24, KDE 4.4
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> lidar:multiple and have done clean installs precise 12.04.1
[04:22] <boompow> fuck
[04:23] <boompow> the quality of advice here is declining like an inverse expotential curve
[04:23] <gmachine_24> subcool, well, yeah, what are they up to now? 4.9?
[04:23] <gmachine_24> subcool, maybe you should do an update
[04:23] <subcool> gmachine_24, idk- i do update.. i update regularly
[04:23] <gmachine_24> subcool, at least update the network manager
[04:24] <Archio> @Jordan_U So now I restarted after installation, and I see the thinkpad logo and it boots to Windows, do you know how I can boot to Ubuntu?
[04:24] <gmachine_24> subcool, have you tried that?
[04:24] <subcool> gmachine_24, to what? i run software update like daily
[04:24] <gmachine_24> subcool, I don't use KDE so I'm a bit in the dark.
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Archio: Does this machine have more than one internal drive?
[04:25] <Archio> @Jordan_U No, just one 500GB drive, partitioned into 2 250GB partitions, one Windows, one Ubuntu
[04:25] <gmachine_24> subcool, what version or ubuntu are you running
[04:25] <gmachine_24> *of
[04:25] <lidar> lotuspsychje, are you using fglirx or whatever module ?
[04:25] <gmachine_24> because KDE is no longer supported
[04:25] <subcool> 11.04
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> lidar:yes
[04:26] <Jordan_U> Archio: Try booting from the USB drive you used to install Ubuntu. My guess is that "sda" was actually the USB drive, and that's where grub was installed to.
[04:26] <subcool> gmachine_24, KDE is no longer supported in ubuntu?
[04:26] <lidar> lotuspsychje, have you tried blacklisting it ?
[04:26] <gmachine_24> subcool, correct
[04:26] <subcool> lol - omfg
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> lidar:how do i do that?
[04:26] <subcool> gmachine_24, so what is supported? ONly Gnome?
[04:26] <gmachine_24> subcool, fairly recent decision by the head of canonical or whatever
[04:27] <lidar> lotuspsychje, hold on let me find a tutorial it will disable it for a test
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> lidar: ok tnx
[04:27] <Archio> @Jordan_U Ok, so if I go back to the USB drive how do I see Ubuntu on the partition?
[04:27] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: subcool: KDE is still supported by the community and Kubuntu will continue to exist.
[04:27] <Archio> Should I re-install Ubuntu?
[04:29] <subcool> Jordan_U, well, im getting beef for a bug report- Being told im running and old version. im running 4.4 - and network manager.. - THis is quite rediculous.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Archio: No. My guess is that when you tell the BIOS to boot from the USB drive, it will load grub which will load Ubuntu from your internal drive. If it does boot into the Live environment again, then please use the "Try Ubuntu" option and then run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces.
[04:29] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U is there still a Kubuntu channel
[04:29] <subcool> there is never anyone in it
[04:29] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Archio
[04:29] <subcool> and when there is- they dont answer
[04:29] <lidar> lotuspsychje, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/avoid-linux-kernel-module-driver-autoloading.html
[04:29] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: Yes, #kubuntu.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> lidar:tnx mate
[04:29] <gmachine_24> subcool, is that what you tried? #kubuntu?
[04:30] <subcool> so what do i use to replace network mangaer? The Bug report told me to use Plasma NM? - whats the file name..
[04:30] <lidar> lotuspsychje, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist add blacklist fglirx then reboot
[04:30] <subcool> i havent been in there lately- its always a headache and smarta$$ remarks
[04:30] <subcool> "did u google it" - no.. i farted and used that.
[04:30] <Archio> @Jordan_U Ok, I booted with the flash drive and picked the "Try Ubuntu" option, I'll run the boot info script
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> lidar: would compiz still work after blacklist?
[04:31] <yashwant> hi i am using ubuntu 12.02, this ubuntu feature little bit alter then 10.10 so i changed the root permission, i have given 777 now my sudo command is not working what can i do now? please help me
[04:31] <lidar> lotuspsychje, not sure but im gonna say no
[04:32] <lidar> lotuspsychje, it will prove if thats the cause of the cursor issue though
[04:32] <gmachine_24> subcool, I don't use KDE on any computer any more so I am out of touch
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> lidar: ah okay good find mate
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> ill test that out and let you know
[04:33] <subcool> Jordan_U, ? any idea?
[04:33] <subcool> gmachine_24, ya- i know.. sorry, and thanks for helping.
[04:33] <gmachine_24> subcool, np. good luck.
[04:33] <subcool> thanks
[04:34] <membreya> when installing windows apps ...what does stub mean at the end of the output line?
[04:35] <Archio> @Jordan_U Thanks for helping me on this, pastebin of RESULTS.txt is here: pastebin.com/SZ0jmTGV
[04:38] <Jordan_U> Archio: OK. Please run "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ /dev/sda" and pastebin the output.
[04:40] <Archio> @Jordan_U Ok, the output is "Installation finished. No error reported."
[04:40] <Archio> @Jordan_U It happened really quickly, finished in like .25 seconds
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Archio: That's a good sign. There's still more that needs to be done though.
[04:40] <Archio> Ok
[04:42] <zam> hello
[04:42] <lidar> hello zam
[04:43] <acer_> just a quick question, how to i update ubuntu packages (sometimes ubuntu annoys me with this window to update)
[04:43] <acer_> and now i wanted to update
[04:43] <lidar> acer_, open a shell .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:43] <acer_> ty
[04:43] <zam> you only want to update a specific package?
[04:44] <zam> nvm lidar answered
[04:44] <octavio-rdz> I just installed (fresh install) 12.04.1 amd64 and I'm having a lot of  problems some dependency issues, some other like apt-get tells me a something is installed but when I trie to use it the command doesn't exist ... any idea if 12.04.1 was a bad release? I have 12.04 in other computer and I don't have such problems :s, any idea?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Archio: for dir in /dev/ /proc/ /sys/; do sudo mount --bind "$dir" "/mnt/$dir"; done
[04:45] <blackshirt> Update first
[04:45] <blackshirt> octavio-rdz, update your database
[04:46] <octavio-rdz> blackshirt:  apt-get update? I have done that
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, if you updated in the other computer you have 12.04.1 there as well, specificities will be your best bet here.
[04:46] <Archio> @Jordan_U I did that, it just finished and went to the next prompt, no output
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> you're*
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Archio: Good. Now "sudo chroot /mnt/"
[04:47] <Archio> @Jordan_U Done
[04:47] <Archio> @Jordan_U Now the prompt shows root@ubuntu
[04:47] <octavio-rdz> wilee-nilee: yes I know that.. that is why I thought that maybe the 12.04.1 release media had the problem
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Archio: update-grub
[04:47] <Archio> @Jordan_U done
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Archio: echo $?
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, your question is way to vague.
[04:48] <johnwerneken> sorry for the flood, i don't do irc much anymore, i forgot
[04:48] <squarebracket> what's the non-unity desktop package?
[04:48] <octavio-rdz> I want to know if there are any other having similar problems or if is there any report about 12.04.1 being a bad release
[04:49] <Archio> @Jordan_U Do you mean show you the output? http://pastebin.com/uwXsUdkt
[04:49] <squarebracket> Calc not working with Unity is freaking ridiculous.
[04:49] <bazhang> squarebracket, gnome-panel you mean?
[04:49] <squarebracket> bazhang, I want not unity, as it breaks a lot of functionality. Like, Gnome 2 sort of thing.
[04:50] <Jordan_U> Archio: I meant to literally run "echo $?" and tell me the output ('0' if the last command run was successfull, another number if not).
[04:50] <octavio-rdz> like I said I had a 12.04 update but (installed from 12.04 release media and I have no problems ... but I do have problems when installing from 12.04.1
[04:50] <Jordan_U> Archio: But the full output tells me it was successfull.
[04:50] <Jordan_U> Archio: Try rebooting, but even if it works there is still one more step to go.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, So who would be reporting I think you miss the point here.
[04:51] <Nautilus> is Brasero garbage? Something better in 10.04 for burning DVDs?
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, name the exact problem.
[04:52] <squarebracket> sigh. I think it's time I move to debian... :(
[04:52] <somsip> Nautilus: xfburn?
[04:52] <Archio> @Jordan_U Just rebooted, I see "GNU Grub version something"
[04:52] <jrbergdorff> @Meris, missed that last message
[04:52] <Archio> @Jordan_U And a list of things, I see the Windows 7 and ubuntu installs... that means it worked?
[04:52] <Jordan_U> Archio: Yes. Try booting the first entry.
[04:53] <Nautilus> somsip: haven't seen that.  My problem is that it just took 2 hours to add files to Brasero and calculate their size, and when I clicked on Burn it started recalculating all over again!
[04:53] <lidar> squarebracket, debian is fine .. but you could just try xcfe or lxde ;)
[04:54] <somsip> Nautilus: well, maybe it's worth a try. I find it works, but remember getting dissatisfied with brasero. Can't remember why now thought
[04:54] <squarebracket> lidar, yeah, I was thinking of just installing xubuntu-desktop with compiz...
[04:54] <Archio> @Jordan_U Awesome, booted to the login screen! I'm logged in now
[04:54] <octavio-rdz> wilee-nilee: my first problem was with ubuntuone it just crashes with the error No module named PyQt4
[04:54] <Nautilus> somsip: gotcha
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Archio: Great! Now just run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and answer the prompts (which I'll give more detail on) and you're done.
[04:55] <lidar> squarebracket, it will make you happy like a fat kid in a candy store i bet !
[04:55] <Nautilus> somsip: it's definitely fubar
[04:55] <squarebracket> lidar, most likely :)
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, Cool that helps a great deal on this channel, I can't really help with that one without looking on google but I will look.
[04:56] <Archio> @Jordan_U Done, now I see the "Configuring grub-pc" dialogue
[04:56] <johnwerneken> grub update is not fast
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Archio: The first two questions ask about the "linux cmdline", leave those questions with their default answer (the first will be blank, that's normal) and continue by pressing Enter. After that you should be asked about install devices, you should choose "sda" and only "sda" here. Select / unselect a device using space bar, and continue by pressing Enter.
[04:57] <octavio-rdz> wilee-nilee: I already installed python-qt4 package but ubuntuone still doesn't work
[04:57] <squarebracket> lidar, I guess I now qualify as a linux grump... before I know it I'll be installing fluxbox....
[04:59] <Archio> @Jordan_U "Installation finished. No error reported". Then the whole "Generating grub.cfg..." thing.
[04:59] <johnwerneken> Archio: patience, grub.cfg is not fast
[04:59] <Jordan_U> Archio: Congratulations. You're now done :)
[04:59] <lidar> squarebracket, im using fluxbox now lol
[05:00] <octavio-rdz> wilee-nilee: then I had a problem with aptitude I install it by apt-get but it just doesn't run it says, aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libcwidget.so.3
[05:00] <johnwerneken> jordan_U: you are a Good Helper
[05:00] <lidar> johnwerneken, he is trying to get a raise!
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, aptitude is considered as deprecated, but should work I suppose.
[05:00] <johnwerneken> lol. with my nickle he might have $.10
[05:01] <Archio> @Jordan_U Thank you so much! I really appreciate your effort in helping me with this.
[05:01] <octavio-rdz> wilee-nilee: then I had a similar problem with git-svn a dependency problem after installing the package with apt-get .. I have tried use the ubuntu software center and same results
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Archio: You're welcome.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, I see various hints at the first error but to be honest I'm not real strong in ethier of your problems.
[05:02] <Jordan_U> johnwerneken: Thanks :)
[05:02] <DarkTomas_> ChanServlll
[05:02] <johnwerneken> jordan_u: yw
[05:03] <octavio-rdz> wilee-nilee: ok I guess I would have to go back to install 12.04 and update from there ... I haven't had those issues installing from 12.04 media
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> octavio-rdz, Could be any number of things going on here, I doubt it is a difference in loads, but you never know.
[05:07] <Guest2493> can anyone help me with python
[05:08] <Guest2493> i have installed python3 on 12.04 but python -V still shows 2.7 installed
[05:08] <lidar> Guest2493, better call turtle man he isgood with pythons
[05:09] <lidar> Guest2493, dpkg -l | grep python you probably have both versions
[05:09] <anubis_> does rhythmbox support transferring music to ipod touch's (2g)?
[05:09] <Guest2493> lidar yes thats true i have both versions .. how do i make python3 default?
[05:10] <lidar> guest2493 do you need both ? could apt-get remove python2.7 perhaps
[05:11] <Guest2493> lidar i can do that.. i am scared that the system shouldnt crash due to that as a lot of things work on python i guess
[05:11] <lidar> Guest2493, you can always call it directly in your scriptsas well ... #!/path/to/python3.7
[05:11] <Guest2493> so then should i install IDLE for ver 3??
[05:11] <Guest2493> as the code differs for 2.7 and 3
[05:12] <Guest2493> Lidar can u please help me.. is there a forum exclusively for python?
[05:13] <lidar> Guest2493, try /join #python
[05:13] <peterrooney> Guest2493: /list #probable_irc_channel
[05:13] <Guest2493> Thanks a ton Lidar
[05:13] <lidar> Guest2493, just as 2.7 and 3.0 are in diffrent locations .. IDLE would install with the other versions
[05:14] <Guest2493> peterrooney whats that?
[05:16] <lidar> FloodBot3, is fast!
[05:19] <Phoebus> Indeed.
[05:20] <bloop> Hello, I am having a no-sound issue with my sound card. Here is my sound card info: aplay -l
[05:20] <bloop> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[05:20] <bloop> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC889A Analog [ALC889A Analog]
[05:20] <bloop>   Subdevices: 0/1
[05:20] <bloop>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[05:20] <bloop> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC889A Digital [ALC889A Digital]
[05:20] <FloodBot1> bloop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <lidar> bloop, that would be the smack down by the FloodBot !!
[05:22] <anubis_> Ugh it's so sad that the only reason I have to dual boot Windows/Ubuntu is so I can play SC2. ahhhhhh lol
[05:22] <bloop> ya guess i should have payed more attention to the rules...
[05:22] <bloop> oops
[05:23] <lidar> anubis_, i have to dual boot for my aircard .. and some specialized software
[05:24] <Jnco> hi -
[05:24] <anubis_> yeah
[05:24] <Jnco> Can someone help me, I am getting these strange return codes when I want to have heartbeat run a init.d script, http://pastebin.com/FGuGyHW7
[05:24] <anubis_> i guess i probably should do it for solidworks too
[05:24] <anubis_> its just kinda annoying lol
[05:24] <Ububegin> whenever, i use the synaptic manager, *E: sun-java6-jdk: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2*  .. i am shown this irritating error.. Anyways to remove this
[05:24] <Jnco> heartbeat runs commands as sudo right
[05:24] <anubis_> i much prefer ubuntu to anything else
[05:29] <lidar> should program the bots to kick lurkers !
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> lurking is a good way to learn. ;)
[05:34] <lidar> yeah i guess
[05:35] <bloop> so should I re-ask with a paste.bin url? don't want to be annoying?
[05:35] <lidar> but do people actually scrolll back through a weeks worth of chat log ?
[05:36] <lidar> bloop, the bot blocked your indescretion so throw the output in pastebin
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> lidar, that is one definition of what lurking is, personally I have sat here in the past for long periods of time to learn.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> multitasking of course.
[05:37] <lidar> wilee-nilee, i guess grep key words out
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> true that would work
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> now that I know what grep is hehe
[05:38] <bloop> I am having a no sound problem with my audio card whose info is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1173204/ any ideas of where to start? (spent a long time googling with no result)
[05:39] <histo> bloop: is this a desktop system or command line only?
[05:42] <lidar> bloop, i found a launchpad post by a guy named blooper ! i bet you know him
[05:43] <lidar> bloop, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=837508
[05:46] <cute_bettong> hi im having a problem with gwibber in ubuntu 12.04 32bit, i tried to install a diffrent version, and things got all mucked up, so i removed everything and finally got it working, but when i click the broadcast accounts option to setup an account i just get alot of blank spaces, there's an add button with nothing to add, and the + - buttons do nothing, is there a way to fix this?
[05:46] <histo> !sound > bloop
[05:49] <histo> cute_bettong: is there a .gwibber folder in your home?  You can display hidden directories (the ones that start with .) by hitting  ctrl+h in the file browser
[05:50] <cute_bettong> histo there is no .gwibber folder in home
[05:50] <Hereisanotherlie> I have been having a really hard time setting up a subdomain on an ubuntu apache server
[05:51] <Hereisanotherlie> I added my subdomain to /etc/apache2/sites-available
[05:52] <Hereisanotherlie> and then used a2ensite
[05:52] <Hereisanotherlie> I restarted apache and now when I visit the subdomain I get an error
[05:52] <Hereisanotherlie> and a2ensite says it's already enabled
[05:53] <lidar> Hereisanotherlie, what site were you following ?
[05:53] <Hereisanotherlie> LiDaR: http://serverfault.com/questions/245860/how-to-make-a-directory-in-site-root-a-subdomain
[05:53] <Hereisanotherlie> well sort of that one
[05:54] <lidar> Hereisanotherlie, you need to set up a virtualhost i "think" right
[05:54] <Hereisanotherlie> is that the same as creating a new came?
[05:54] <Hereisanotherlie> cname*
[05:55] <cute_bettong> histo, are you there? there's no .gwibber folder
[05:55] <artie> does anyone here have experience with teamviewer???? I need to know how to log in via the log in dialog box. Teamviewer manual says it's possible, but it does not work.
[05:55] <lidar> Hereisanotherlie, yeah
[05:56] <lidar> Hereisanotherlie, for instance google.com .. and earth.google.com hosted on same server they are both added as virtualhosts
[05:56] <Hereisanotherlie> LiDaR: I just did that about 30 minutes ago. Godaddy says it might take an hour but it's usually quicker than that
[05:56] <lidar> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/09/setting-up-name-based-virtual-hosting/
[05:57] <Hereisanotherlie> LiDaR: oh man it just went though it looks like it was a dns issue, thanks for the help though
[05:57] <lidar> ok cool :)
[05:59] <hualet> hello, everyone
[06:00] <cute_bettong> histo, are you there?
[06:01] <hualet> can anybody tell me how to modify the position of my apps on the panel?
[06:02] <cute_bettong> does anyone else know the answer to my question?
[06:02] <cute_bettong> hi im having a problem with gwibber in ubuntu 12.04 32bit, i tried to install a diffrent version, and things got all mucked up, so i removed everything and finally got it working, but when i click the broadcast accounts option to setup an account i just get alot of blank spaces, there's an add button with nothing to add, and the + - buttons do nothing, is there a way to fix this?
[06:03] <hualet> my ibus always shows before indicator-weather and psensor, it looks ugly...
[06:03] <mathfreak> Hi hualet. Let me try it on my desktop and see what happens.
[06:03] <hualet> ok
[06:05] <SteveLim> newbie hi
[06:06] <mathfreak> hualet: I'm not sure how to move the icons around other than the right-click "move" option.
[06:06] <silv3r_m00n> how to open the network manager applet from terminal ?
[06:06] <mathfreak> some of the icons move together as a group, and I am not sure how to change their order in that case.
[06:07] <hualet> mathfreak, Are you sure panel icons has the 'move' option?
[06:08] <mathfreak> hualet: I do not know for the new unity-style panels, but the option is there for the classic ubuntu layout
[06:08] <hualet> mathfreak, I use the ubuntu 12.04 version, and unity desktop
[06:09] <hualet> mathfreak, you must be using the classic gnome desktop, am i right?
[06:09] <mathfreak> yup
[06:09] <mathfreak> I don't have a clue for unity. Sorry :S
[06:10] <hualet> ok...thanks all the same
[06:10] <mathfreak> silv3r_moon, have you tried the command, "nm-connection-editor"?
[06:10] <hualet> mathfreak, why don't you use the unity desktop?
[06:11] <hualet> Are you an old player of ubuntu?
[06:11] <mathfreak> not used to it. I've always liked the older layout.
[06:12] <hualet> ok...
[06:12] <lidar> i installed fluxbox unity made me feel funny
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> is ubuntu vunrable for that new java exploit?
[06:13] <mathfreak> if you're using the IcedTea plugin with OpenJRE, you're fine.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> mathfreak: ok tnx mate
[06:23] <jarco> Thx ubuntu devs for fixing the hud+firebug crash in firefox :)
[06:27] <cyrano_> I'm having a weird issue with my dell latitude d630 (12.04 with MATE) where it seems to boot just fine when connected to my dock. But when I try to boot it when not connected to the dock it takes longer to boot and shows a message in the plymouth boot theme stating that it is trying to connect to network then eventually counts down from 60 to give up and finish booting. Once it eventually boots the network manager does not show up in th
[06:27] <cyrano_> the nm-applet doesn't seem to want to run when I boo the laptop without it being on the dock
[06:31] <cute_bettong> does anyone know why this is happning to gwibber? http://pastebin.com/tghXq6fR
[06:33] <mathfreak> I do not use gwibber. Sorry. :(
[06:33] <lidar> what does gwibber do ?
[06:34] <lidar> ah i see
[06:34] <cute_bettong> yea i somehow managed to break it
[06:34] <cute_bettong> by trying to upgrade to a newer version
[06:35] <cute_bettong> and well, that diden't work out so well v.v and now it dosen't work
[06:36] <lidar> cute_bettong, using source or an ubuntu package ?
[06:37] <cute_bettong> lidar, i got the install from the gwibber website, it's version  3.0.0.1
[06:37] <cute_bettong> i can't seem to get the ubuntu verion of it to work either
[06:37] <lidar> cute_bettong, was it a .deb or source ?
[06:38] <cute_bettong> lidar, it was a tar.gz file
[06:38] <cute_bettong> you have to open it and then run sudo python setup.py install
[06:38] <cute_bettong> and it returns no errors when it installs
[06:38] <lidar> cute_bettong, did you install with "make install"
[06:38] <cute_bettong> lidar, no
[06:39] <cute_bettong> lidar, there is no make install in the folder at all
[06:39] <lidar> cute_bettong, oh hmm does it have the option to remove .. sudo python setup.py remove ?
[06:40] <cute_bettong> lidar, no it dosen't am i screwed?
[06:41] <lidar> cute_bettong, little bit
[06:42] <mathfreak> is there anything like "sudo python setup.py uninstall" or "sudo python setup.py help"?
[06:43] <cute_bettong> lidar, what do i do to fix this?
[06:43] <vampirnata> Hello. I've bought a brand new 3TB hard disk and put it into an external enclosure. In windows I can see the drive and format it and it works. I then plug it into my Ubunter 12.04 server and it doesn't want to mount. It hangs the shell. I'm on kernel 3.2.0-29. Anyone know what it could be
[06:43] <lidar> cute_bettong, try what mathfreak said
[06:44] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, no there are no files in the directory from which i installed gwibber
[06:44] <lidar> vampirnata, look at dmesg .. see what errors you get
[06:44] <vampirnata> lidar: nothing concrete. Just some sensing errors which I get from another hard disk in the same enclosure.
[06:45] <cute_bettong> so um what do i do?
[06:45] <lidar> vampirnata, open a shell type sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd or whatever
[06:45] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, lemme do some googling. one second please
[06:45] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, okies
[06:45] <lidar> vampirnata, change sdd to the correct device
[06:46] <vampirnata> lidar: i don't have the disk with me, it's at home. But I tried that last night and it didn't work. It's /dev/sde
[06:46] <Guddu> Alll :-) Please sugggest a good tool to Remotely enter into a Ubuntu Desktop...Something similar to RDP in Windows :-)
[06:46] <somsip> Guddu: vnc
[06:47] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, here's a page on launchpad that might help you: https://answers.launchpad.net/gwibber/+question/42891
[06:47] <mathfreak> if you use the command, be sure to double-check everything since it is rm -rf
[06:47] <Guddu> somsip, realvnc?
[06:48] <lidar> vampirnata, hmm have to plug it in look at syslog/dmesg and look for a error
[06:49] <vampirnata> lidar: yah I'll come here again tonight :) Thanks. But as far as you know it should work?
[06:50] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, so now restart and then reinstall gwibber?
[06:50] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, go ahead and restart. be sure to install gwibber from synaptic package manager
[06:50] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, okies will do
[06:51] <somsip> Guddu: there are a few version
[06:56] <Guddu> somsip, For ubuntu which is the version to download? There are a lot of linux versions listed on the Website. Should it be debian or a generic installer?
[06:56] <d1rkp1tt> Unity keeps stopping on 12.04... by keeps I mean, Its a VM so I can roll back the image. But every time I do an update it dies
[06:56] <somsip> Guddu: a .deb should work fine
[06:56] <Guddu> Thanks somsip
[06:56] <d1rkp1tt> Just takes me to login and desktop wont start
[06:56] <d1rkp1tt> Anyone else had this issue?
[06:56] <lidar> d1rkp1tt, increase video ram maybe
[06:56] <coellobranco> saludos
[06:56] <Adie> I am looking to compile C++ into a cute lil executible file for my friend to click and open in the terminal all lovey like
[06:56] <Guddu> somsip, Is Realvnc for Remote Control? Or Remote Entry like RDP in Windows?
[06:56] <Adie> what filetype should it be?
[06:57] <somsip> Guddu: I used vncclient and vncserver but that was a shile ago. I uderstand that are different packages that use the VNC protocol nowadays
[06:57] <Guddu> somsip, Is Realvnc for Remote Control? Or Remote Entry like RDP in Windows?
[06:57] <Guddu> Ooops....Sorry for repeat.
[06:57] <auronandace> !vnc | Guddu
[06:57] <d1rkp1tt> lidar, you would think it would error, but it just goes to command prompt?
[06:57] <d1rkp1tt> how do you start unity from command prompt... that may give me an error to work with aye
[06:58] <lidar> d1rkp1tt, startx
[06:58] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, elphias@Chronos:~$ gwibber
[06:58] <cute_bettong> gwibber: error while loading shared libraries: libgwibber.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:58] <d1rkp1tt> Fatal server error: server is already active for display 0
[06:58] <lidar> d1rkp1tt, startx -- :2 will open new one
[06:59] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, is this gwibber installed from synaptic?
[06:59] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, yes it is
[06:59] <d1rkp1tt> and so it did
[06:59] <d1rkp1tt> Thanks!
[06:59]  * brian_ says hi
[06:59] <mosfewq> Anyone know how to automate in preseed the screen that says "/dev/sda contains GPT signatures"?
[06:59] <brian_> nope
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> lidar: you alive mate?
[07:07] <lidar> nope lotuspsychje
[07:08] <lidar> lotuspsychje, did it work ?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> lidar: im on the box now, look what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1890997.html
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> lidar: this guy says to add nomodeset to grub
[07:08] <lidar> did you try it ?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> lidar: not yet
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> lidar: not sure where to add the nomodeset
[07:10] <auronandace> !nomodeset
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> aha tnx autonandace
[07:12] <brian_> what are some good dos games or old macintosh games
[07:12] <coellobranco> problem-> http://pastebin.com/CBccTQWj solution?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> ok wish me luck on the reboot
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> brb
[07:14] <lidar> coellobranco, simplest solution is do not use IE
[07:14] <coellobranco> ok jaja
[07:14] <coellobranco> is for play a LoL in Ubuntu...
[07:15] <lidar> coellobranco, is the computer fast enough for running virtualbox ? seamless rdp is neat if it is
[07:16] <coellobranco> ok
[07:16] <coellobranco> this solution? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967109
[07:17] <lidar> coellobranco, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> lidar: normal boot, but wobbly windows disabled again, is it safe to re enable?
[07:18] <lidar> coellobranco, try that ^^ might make you happy
[07:18] <lidar> lotuspsychje, which module you using now ?
[07:19] <lidar> lotuspsychje, i think last time i metnioned blacklisting fglirx
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> lidar: im still on fxglr not yet blacklisted as i wanted to know if nomodeset would work
[07:19] <lidar> lotuspsychje, oh ok then wobbly windows should work fine
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> lidar: hmm wobbly windows are activated in ccsm, still they dont work anymore..did nomodeset influence?
[07:23] <lidar> yeah probably
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> brb
[07:26] <kernelklink> How do I open a file in Ubuntu?  Just kidding.
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset > lotuspsychje
[07:31] <bawig1> Hi,
[07:32] <bawig1> I'm having trouble with the microphone on my HP 5102 mini running 12.04 LTS It doesn't seem to be working
[07:35] <ServerSage> bawig1: Do you know if it worked in previous versions of ubuntu?
[07:36] <bawig1> yes
[07:36] <bread> Hi, I'm new to linux and am trying to get java working. Can anyone help?
[07:36] <bawig1> I try alsamixer but when I run skype the mic levels drop right down again
[07:37] <bawig1> bread: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:37] <bread> excellent, thanks
[07:37] <ServerSage> bawig1: I think it's a known bug, hang on.  Let me find the ticket.
[07:37] <bawig1> that page has all the instructions you need
[07:38] <ServerSage> bawig1: http://tinyurl.com/ccczhzx
[07:39] <bawig1> okm thankyou ServerSage i'll look into it
[07:40] <bawig1> *ok
[07:40] <ServerSage> bawig1: No problem, I'm in the same boat.  :)
[07:43] <lauritz__> H‎i all... long time since i've been using irc before...
[07:44] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, hey kinda got it working, but when i click on broadcast accounts, the window dosen't show up so i cannot add any accounts, any ideas?
[07:45] <mathfreak> no ideas at the moment
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !ati > lotuspsychje
[07:46] <lauritz__> can someone tell me i installed lubuntu and then put xbmc xvba eden on ... but i've only get sound on the HDMI or Sdpif when playing movies or mp3 but no sound from lubuntu / icon sounds nor sound on Zsnes emulator like somethings not working
[07:48] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, I don't use gwibber, so I am not sure if this is correct, but...
[07:48] <mathfreak> does Edit -> Accounts do anything?
[07:49] <samuel> Hi all, I run Ubuntu 12.04 but after I updated my OS. It works so heavily. May you give any suggestion?
[07:49] <NewWorld> samuel:  as in, it's slow?
[07:50] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, nope
[07:50] <samuel> NewWorld: yes, when I want run a program. It takes so time to run.
[07:51] <NewWorld> samuel:  While anything is starting up, is the "HDD working" light fully on? (i.e. lots of HDD usage)
[07:51] <histo> samuel: what are your system specs?
[07:52] <_mis_tere_> how to hide my IP in IRC?
[07:52] <samuel> dell latitude d630
[07:52] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, how did you get gwibber working again?
[07:53] <lauritz_> noone knows about the sound issue in lubuntu 12.04
[07:53] <samuel> cpu core2duo, ram 1 gig, hdd 500 gig
[07:53] <ServerSage> _mis_tere_: You are in the wrong channel for questions like that.  :)
[07:53] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, to be honist, i just followed what you said, and that little howto, now if i could just add accounts it would be back to normal
[07:53] <histo> samuel: did you install 64bit version of ubuntu or 32bit?
[07:53] <samuel> 32bit
[07:53] <lauritz_> i know but im asking in all kind of lubuntu channels as well
[07:53] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, one second please
[07:55] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, ok
[07:57] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, can you try this command for me? "sudo apt-get --reinstall install gwibber"
[07:58] <samuel> guys any suggestoin
[07:59] <Kartagis> _mis_tere_: #freenode
[07:59] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, seems to do the same thing, do i need to restart for this to work right?
[07:59] <DJones> !cloak | mistere
[07:59] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, just one more thing
[07:59] <DJones> mistere: Once you've registered yor account, you need to ask in #freenode for an unaffiliated cloak
[08:00] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, sure
[08:02] <mathfreak> hmm
[08:03] <Kingsy> anyone know of an ical application that sits in the notifaction area?
[08:03] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, got it working
[08:04] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, awesome! :) How did you do it?
[08:04] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, kind of, still can't do anything with the accounts window, it opens now but there's no options to add twitter or facebook
[08:04] <cute_bettong> i found a services.deb file for gwibber
[08:04] <cute_bettong> installed it and it kind of fixed it
[08:04] <Kingsy> annoyingly orage doesnt seem to do it
[08:05] <mathfreak> hmm
[08:06] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, here's what it's doing
[08:06] <Kircle> Does the unity panel and launcher use css files to determine it's appearance? If so where are such files?
[08:06] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/screenshotfrom201208290.png/
[08:07] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, thank you for the screenshot. I'll try googling a bit.
[08:08] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, thanks really appriciate it
[08:09] <Kingsy> man, there is just nothing around for this
[08:10] <alexey_knyshev> Hi all! Please, recommend me channel where I can find help about boost.
[08:10] <marcappuccino> ?/j #ubuntu
[08:10] <marcappuccino> what is boost?
[08:11] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, I believe this thread matches your situation closely. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1763267
[08:11] <snerd_> too quiet around this place............
[08:11] <marcappuccino> +1
[08:11] <Crawly> marcappuccino: Error: "1" is not a valid command.
[08:11] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, reading
[08:12] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, I think fishtron's post (#6) would be the best place to start
[08:12] <IdleOne> +1
[08:12] <Crawly> IdleOne: Error: "1" is not a valid command.
[08:12] <IdleOne> Crawly: please disable that auto responder
[08:12] <Crawly> IdleOne: Error: "please" is not a valid command.
[08:12] <marcappuccino> !crawly
[08:15] <_mis_tere_> my ubuntu 12.04 Gnome not show "Show Desktop" button?
[08:29] <arlo> Hello are there a apache expert, whats wrong this code http://pastebin.com/HkFpRiAg ?
[08:29] <nyuszika7h> I think you need a / after the DocumentRoot
[08:29] <nyuszika7h> DocumentRoot /var/www/test/
[08:29] <somsip> nyuszika7h: nope
[08:30] <Kartagis> I've been using without a trailing /
[08:30] <somsip> arlo: does /var/log/apache/test exist?
[08:30] <Kartagis> arlo: what is it not doing?
[08:31] <Kartagis> what's the ppa adress for firefox?
[08:31] <Kartagis> address*
[08:31] <cute_bettong> mathfreak, thank you so much for your help it worked like a charm gwibber is working normally now
[08:32] <mathfreak> cute_bettong, glad to hear it!
[08:34] <marcappuccino> Kartahis if you mean testing it is ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next but the latest stable firefoxes get updated automatically
[08:36] <drag0nius> meh, how do i run ubuntu on geforce?
[08:36] <drag0nius> like half year after release and still same buggy driver
[08:36] <marcappuccino> propriatary or open source
[08:36] <marcappuccino> drag0nius
[08:36] <drag0nius> propertiary are still all the same like before
[08:37] <drag0nius> while there were like 10 releases on nvidia.com
[08:37] <marcappuccino> what is your card
[08:37] <Kartagis> marcappuccino: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found <--- is this normal? do I replace stable with next?
[08:37] <drag0nius> either gtx 280 or 560 ti
[08:37] <drag0nius> since 560 didnt work i tried 280, but is 100% the same
[08:37] <marcappuccino> lspci?
[08:37] <drag0nius> i've gtx 280 installed right now
[08:38] <marcappuccino> ok
[08:38] <drag0nius> version is 295.49
[08:39] <drag0nius> most recent is 304.43
[08:39] <marcappuccino> Kartagis no it is not normal is this a fresh install? go to software centre and go to Edit > Software Sources then remove that statble ppa and then run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next
[08:40] <marcappuccino> drag0nius no you need the extra performance from the propriatary drivers for gaming or can you afford to just revert to nouveau?
[08:40] <drag0nius> i want to run dota 2 at least here
[08:41] <marcappuccino> so what is the actual bug that you are experiencing with these drivers?
[08:41] <Kartagis> marcappuccino: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[08:41] <drag0nius> when i go to display i get randr extension not present
[08:42] <drag0nius> unity panels have no colour (transparent black)
[08:42] <drag0nius> errors pop like once a minute
[08:42] <marcappuccino> which errors
[08:42] <drag0nius> compiz/gnome-software-center
[08:42] <kriss_> Uhmm anyone good with batchscripting wget ? im having a project i have problem with..
[08:42] <drag0nius> animations are tearing
[08:43] <marcappuccino> Kartagis where do you get this error - wile adding the beta repository?
[08:43] <drag0nius> like some tab slides to left, there still are "footprints" of it
[08:44] <drag0nius> i'd say its totally ...
[08:44] <Kartagis> marcappuccino: sudo apt-get update
[08:45] <ChoHag> How can I get rid of the username icon in the toolbar?
[08:45] <marcappuccino> drag0nius im really not sure it seems to be nvidias fault whith such lack of support of what seems to be a popular card but have you tried dualbooting windows?
[08:45] <drag0nius> win7 is my main system
[08:45] <drag0nius> for half year im trying to go to ubuntu, but have no drivers
[08:45] <marcappuccino> Kartagis - after adding the beta repository?
[08:45] <drag0nius> for 2 of most popular nvidia cards
[08:46] <Kartagis> yes marcappuccino
[08:46] <drag0nius> guess i have to try install those newest drivers from nvidia
[08:46] <drag0nius> now i'm on 32 bit, but when i tried that on 64 i couldnt start ubuntu ;d
[08:46] <ChoHag> Is it even possible?
[08:47] <py> is it possible to use public key for root also for other users on same machine ?
[08:47] <drag0nius> brb gonna try that
[08:47] <marcappuccino> Kartagis that seems odd how about remove all firefox repositories nd leave yourself with the default ubuntu repositories since they update firefox anyway...
[08:48] <marcappuccino> ChoHang not sure... askubuntu.com?
[08:48] <Kartagis> marcappuccino: it seems ff 15 is out and it's not the repos
[08:48] <py> is it possible to use public key for root also for other users on same machine ?
[08:49] <marcappuccino> Kartagis it is in mine... is this a frehs install?
[08:49] <Kartagis> update
[08:49] <marcappuccino> ?
[08:49] <Kartagis> it's an update
[08:50] <Kartagis> from 11.10
[08:51] <Kartagis> wha? wth do I get 11.0?
[08:52] <marcappuccino> So maybe you are with the 11.10 oneric repos or something... but many experience quite a few errors when dist-upgrading so i would personally reccomend you to compress your home folder .tar.lzma (smallest) .tar.bz2 (fastest) and do a fresh install
[08:53] <marcappuccino> (saving the compressed home folder to a usb or something)
[08:53] <timfrost> py: what type of public key?Most systems that use the term 'public key' are using a key pair, and the private key should be owned by a person, so can't be shared between users
[08:53] <Kartagis> /etc/apt/sources.list shows precise
[08:54] <py> key pair yes
[08:55] <marcappuccino> Kartagis im not sure im just giving you suggestions
[08:55] <drag0nius_netboo> yeah installed those drivers
[08:55] <drag0nius_netboo> and ubuntu gui does not start
[08:55] <marcappuccino> ok
[08:55] <marcappuccino> ...and
[08:55] <drag0nius_netboo> i can only see some part of message about broken pipe at top of screen
[08:55] <marcappuccino> login screen unity or after grub?
[08:55] <Kartagis> marcappuccino: I appreciate all the effort though
[08:55] <drag0nius_netboo> nope
[08:56] <marcappuccino> Kartagis sorry i couldnt be of much help
[08:56] <Kartagis> marcappuccino: ...and I've just remembered I do ff updates through ff
[08:56] <marcappuccino> drag0nius_netboo so where?
[08:56] <drag0nius_netboo> to ctrl alt f7
[08:57] <drag0nius_netboo> or straight to tty1
[08:57] <marcappuccino> Kartagis on my box they are just regularly updated through the update manager
[08:57] <drag0nius_netboo> now topmost line is "Stopping load fallback graphic devices"
[08:57] <drag0nius_netboo> guess i could get to logs somewhere, but idk where
[08:58] <marcappuccino> dragonius_ /var/log/X11/Xorg.log or /var/log/xorg.log
[08:59] <drag0nius_netboo> hmm
[09:00] <drag0nius_netboo> failed to load screens
[09:00] <marcappuccino> drag0nius your card is evidently not supported as of yet so i would reccomend just fresh install into the open source nouveau driver, especially since you use your Win 7 box for your main computer and i assume gaming?
[09:00] <drag0nius_netboo> and its already after dpkg-reconfigure
[09:00] <marcappuccino> its quite an embarresment for nvidia
[09:00] <marcappuccino> AMD ftw
[09:00] <drag0nius_netboo> how can i reset those settings?
[09:01] <drag0nius_netboo> about those drivers, they're pretty much for any geforce
[09:01] <drag0nius_netboo> every nvidia card use those, probably except oldest
[09:02] <marcappuccino> there is a command line method but i cant remember nor would i reccomend it seeing as youve iinstalled quite a lot of drivers so fresh install all the way
[09:02] <marcappuccino> i know thats why its an embarresment
[09:02] <marcappuccino> it doesnt even work on the most popular geforce card
[09:03] <drag0nius_netboo> i think it has something to do with that first-driver config
[09:04] <marcappuccino> But nvidia have recently joined the linux foundation about 2 months ago so hopefully more contributions from them.
[09:04] <drag0nius_netboo> hmm
[09:04] <drag0nius_netboo> this driver might be that contrib
[09:04] <drag0nius_netboo> it was released 2 days ago
[09:04] <drag0nius_netboo> now theres black screen xd
[09:04] <drag0nius_netboo> except for going to tty
[09:05] <marcappuccino> lol
[09:05] <drag0nius_netboo> lets try failsafe option now
[09:06] <drag0nius_netboo> last one was some long file name with orginal in it
[09:06] <marcappuccino> sorry must go! but my advice is to use nouveau!
[09:07] <rax-> is there a reason to use 'reboot' instead of 'shutdown -r' ?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> rax-: they are different options. 1 reboots the pc the other shuts it down(off)
[09:10] <rax-> using the switch -r makes it reboot
[09:11] <z2s8> hi i have a problem when i suspend or hibernate my ubuntu 11.10 it freezes with a black screen and then wake up immediatly with error ath9k_htc.fw not found i installed that but the problem still egxist please help because i cant do anything with my pc
[09:11] <z2s8> when i install 12.04 the problem is the same
[09:11] <zorgborg> hi ubuntu keeps finding internal errors, first it was with apt-get, then something to do with perl, then that seemed to fix itself, firefox is consistently crashing, (even after update today) and now theres another apt problem, you think theres a deeper problem going on?
[09:11] <z2s8> with the usb wifi card
[09:12] <szal> rax-: just convenience, I guess.. 'reboot' is less typework than 'shutdown -r now'
[09:12] <drag0nius_netboo> i use shutdown -r 0
[09:12] <schnuffle> zorgborg: does firefox crash straight away or only when you open a flash page?
[09:12] <rax-> I used -r now normally
[09:13] <z2s8> sometimes need to suspend/hibernate
[09:13] <rax-> but I noticed the reboot command and wasn't sure what the difference was
[09:13] <zorgborg> schnuffle, typically straight away
[09:14] <drag0nius_netboo> what would be easiest way to install kinect on ubuntu?
[09:14] <schnuffle> zorgborg: and what gives you a sudo apt-get upgrade in a terminal?
[09:14] <schnuffle> zorgborg: did you add any extra repositories?
[09:15]  * szal doesn't know anything that results in a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'.. other than typing it oneself
[09:15] <zorgborg> schnuffle, theres an indicator applet on the top panel saying an error occurred when searching for updates, ill just try sudo
[09:16] <zorgborg> schnuffle, nope, chrome is having trouble displaying webpages now though
[09:16] <zetheroo> I hate to say this but I am finding 12.04 to be pretty annoying, mainly with the error dialogs opening several times a day wanting to send report to HQ ...
[09:16] <ksuhku> I have a cron entry that uses notify-send. Sometimes this works fine but sometimes no notification is to be seen and in syslog a line is found notification-da[21656] trap int3 ip:7f57d0bc0313 sp:7fffbe49ca80 error:0
[09:16] <ksuhku> anybody have an idea what that is all about?
[09:17] <zorgborg> schnuffle, it just stalls like last time in the terminal, ceases to do anything
[09:17] <zorgborg> schnuffle, ive run rkhunter and everything seems okay, chkrootkit too, but it seems like alot of things are breaking at once
[09:18] <schnuffle> zorgborg: can it be that your HDD is braking?
[09:19] <schnuffle> breaking
[09:19] <zorgborg> schnuffle, actually yes, seems though im having hang at boot issues, ive had to do several hard shutdowns
[09:19] <zorgborg> and its a second HDD, couldve handled it rough
[09:20] <samuel> has anyone else here had heat problems when running unity?
[09:20] <samuel> on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:21] <samuel> my laptop has been running hot at an average 60c, i recently inadvertently removed some vital files that helped unity run
[09:21] <samuel> so i logged into gnome shell and my temperatures were 10c less!
[09:21] <samuel> now it averages at a reasonable 50c
[09:22] <schnuffle> zorgborg: then hurry up, start from a live system a save your important data, then do a hdd check
[09:23] <zorgborg> schnuffle, no idea how to a hdd check, btw im using gnome-panel not unity, i guess thats not gonna have anything to do with apt though
[09:24] <schnuffle> zorgborg: create a USB stick with a live system, boot from it and then you can check the HDD with e2fsck
[09:25] <mike23333> hi, does anyone have a XvbA compatibility list please ? i'm not sure what laptop to get, the radeon cards in my price range seem to have better benchmarks. it's about radeon 7000 series
[09:25] <zorgborg> schnuffle, ah right thanks :), will do, presume i can pop the live system on a CD tho if USB doesnt work?
[09:27] <schnuffle> Yes
[09:27] <schnuffle> zorgborg: USB is just more convenient an uses less resources :)
[09:29] <zorgborg> schnuffle, is e2fsck a CLI tool?
[09:29] <drag0nius_netboo> lol
[09:29] <drag0nius_netboo> pre-install script on ubuntu
[09:30] <drag0nius_netboo> "trigger an error exit status to prevent the installer from overwriting Ubuntu's nvidia packages"
[09:30] <schnuffle> zorgborg: Yes
[09:33] <zetheroo> on two of my three computers running 12.04 the number of error notifications is something between 10 - 15 per day! I have performed clean installs on all my machines
[09:33] <cs058> hi
[09:34] <Dreadtower> Damn! My copy of Windows XP has arrived but is the OEM version
[09:35] <that1dude> Anyone know why the resolv.conf gets overwritten after each reboot? I need nameservers as nothing is resolving, but each reboot whipes it clean :(
[09:35] <Dreadtower> I'm running Ubuntu and want to run a small Windows VM for a particularly important Windows app.
[09:35] <d1rkp1tt> Hi Guys, I am probably doing something dumb, but I am trying to wget a tar file and its only saving an index.html... when I browse the URL I get the correct download... any ideas?
[09:36] <Dreadtower> I'm wondering if the OEM version of XP will correctly load into a VirtualBox VM
[09:36] <d1rkp1tt> https://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.4.1/tarball/      The URL if it helps
[09:37] <drag0nius_netboo> that1dude: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:37] <drag0nius_netboo> instead of resolv.conf
[09:37] <schnuffle> that1dude: dhcp on some interfaces?
[09:38] <that1dude> what do I put in interfaces? dns-nameserver 1.1.1.1  ?
[09:38] <that1dude> (real Ip of course)
[09:39] <drag0nius_netboo> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 work good ;d
[09:42] <drag0nius_netboo> lulwut
[09:42] <drag0nius_netboo> it workd
[09:42] <drag0nius_netboo> first thing i did after fresh install was installing new drivers
[09:42] <drag0nius_netboo> before even updating
[09:43] <drag0nius_netboo> and it somehow worked
[09:43] <p3ram256mb> can anyone recommend me an alternative to unetbootin that is neither usb-creator-gtk  nor usb-creator-kde?
[09:44] <p3ram256mb> can anyone recommend me a GRAPHICAL alternative to unetbootin that is neither usb-creator-gtk  nor usb-creator-kde?
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> p3ram256mb  try multisystem
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> p3ram256mb  you now know of 4 different ways + CLI to do it
[09:52] <drag0nius_netboo> nevermind it does not work
[09:52] <drag0nius_netboo> not with multiple screens
[09:54] <xyz_> !se | serban
[09:54] <xyz_> !se | dr_willis
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> xyz_  did you have a ubuntu qusstion?
[09:55] <serban> Hi, I'd like to switch to the correspondent workspace each time i click an icon in unity
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> xyz_  did you have a ubuntu question?*
[09:55] <serban> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[09:55] <xyz_> MonkeyDust: Ja, y?
[09:56] <drag0nius_netboo> lol this bug seems like xinerama bug
[09:57] <drag0nius_netboo> ppl reported it back in 8.04 and nobody did anything about it
[09:57] <samuel> has anyone else here had heat problems when running unity?
[09:57] <samuel> my laptop has been running hot at an average 60c, i recently inadvertently removed some vital files that helped unity run
[09:57] <samuel> so i logged into gnome shell and my temperatures were 10c less!
[09:57] <xyz_> MonkeyDust
[09:58] <xyz_> !es | kapz
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> samuel  perhaps because unity is mopre dependent on graphics etc
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> more*
[09:58] <xyz_> !de | MonkeyDust
[09:58] <niuniomartinez> Hi
[09:59] <kapz> Hi! can someone please suggest GUI frontend for grub on ubuntu 12.04? Thanks
[09:59] <xyz_> !de | adriano_
[09:59] <niuniomartinez> I have a problem with Wifi using a D-Link USB device.
[09:59] <xyz_> !su | kapz
[09:59] <Guest98930> Hi to all!
[09:59] <kapz> xyz_ what is this all about?
[10:00] <xyz_> !pl | Guest98930
[10:00] <xyz_> kapz: Your mother.
[10:00] <dr_willis> i think its time for the boot
[10:00] <kapz> u high or something xyz_
[10:01] <xyz_> !it | Calcifer
[10:01] <Guest98930> kto govorit na ruskom ?
[10:01] <niuniomartinez> I have a problem with Wifi: It doesn't allow to use WPA, it only uses WEP.
[10:01] <xyz_> niuniomartinez: On Ubuntu?!
[10:01] <dr_willis> niuniomartinez: what chipset?
[10:01] <niuniomartinez> Xubuntu
[10:01] <niuniomartinez> dr_willis: I'm using a D-Link USB device.
[10:01] <kapz> Hi! can someone please suggest GUI frontend for grub on ubuntu 12.04? Thanks
[10:02] <xyz_> kapz: Windows 96
[10:02] <Guest98930> which D-Link?
[10:02] <dr_willis> niuniomartinez:  lsusb should give more info on it
[10:02] <niuniomartinez> D-Link DWL-122
[10:02] <kapz> !shutup | xyz_
[10:03] <xyz_> !fuckoff | kapz
[10:03] <dr_willis> kapz:  not really noticed any grub2 gui config tools in the repos.
[10:03] <niuniomartinez> It does work, and it detects the wifi but doesn't allows WPA.
[10:03] <xyz_> !en | niuniomartinez
[10:03] <k1l> !ops xyz_
[10:03] <dr_willis> niuniomartinez:  some driver/chipsets have that issue/limit i recall
[10:03] <xyz_>  /op xyz_
[10:03] <xyz_>  /ban kil
[10:03] <k1l> !ops | xyz_
[10:04] <xyz_> !it | kil
[10:04] <niuniomartinez> dr_willis: I try to configure it using "Configure VPN..." but then it creates another item in the list!
[10:04] <medfly> hi guys. what relation does IcedTea-Web have to JRE? I wanna know if I'm vulnerable to that new exploit.
[10:04] <mick25> stop spamming ;/
[10:04] <xyz_> !en | medfly
[10:05] <samuel> Monkeydust, thanks for the response, you may be right!
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> xyz_  do that with /msg ubottu
[10:05] <kapz> dr_willis, no not that I can see.
[10:05] <samuel> i always thought that they were equally dependant on graphics acceleration, but unity may be more so
[10:05] <medfly> wow, there are a lot of ubuntu related channels.
[10:06] <medfly> I'll just disable it :P
[10:06] <niuniomartinez> dr_willis: Thanks for the info. So, my D-Link is one of those "chipsets"...
[10:06] <dr_willis> niuniomartinez:  no idea what chipset its using. dlink makes a lot of stuff
[10:06] <zorgborg> hi all, which thingy do i boot a usb stick from in BIOS - USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-CDROM, USB-HDD?
[10:06] <kapz> about time he got kicked!
[10:07] <dr_willis> niuniomartinez:  determine its exact chipset and check about it in the forums and askubuntu.com would be my advice
[10:07] <niuniomartinez> dr_williw: Thanks. No I must go out. Thankyou
[10:07] <mick25> USB-HDD
[10:07] <niuniomartinez> dr_williw: thankyou. I'll do it. :)
[10:07] <niuniomartinez> Bye
[10:08] <zorgborg> mick25: cheers
[10:08] <niuniomartinez> dr_willis: dr_williw...
[10:09] <dr_willis> !tab
[10:09] <bresta> mdupont
[10:10] <deni> i was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 and the update crashed the X server in the middle of the upgrade
[10:10] <deni> how do i recover from that
[10:11] <deni> i think the update is still happenning in the background
[10:11] <dr_willis> eww..
[10:11] <dr_willis> check top output perhaps?
[10:11] <deni> seeing as i can't use apt-get due to lock
[10:11] <rax-> if I used apt-get dist-upgrade && echo "complete" is this likely to cause any problems? i.e. if dist-upgrade failed?
[10:12] <dr_willis> rax-:  what do you expect dist-upgrade to do?
[10:12] <rax-> apply the patches
[10:12] <dr_willis> it theres an error then it just wont say complete even it its done
[10:12] <deni> dr_willis: what process should i be looking for
[10:13] <rax-> but if that's inside a script, the rest of the script will hang?
[10:13] <dr_willis> if i remeber my bash.    && = run this if esrlier command retuens no error
[10:13] <GoGi> if you have an etale cover of some affine variety U, will base change with a closed subvariety X of U yield an etale cover of X?
[10:13] <rax-> yea I think so dr_willis, that's why I'm asking
[10:13] <rax-> hmm
[10:13] <dr_willis> deni apt, or dpkg i belive
[10:13] <deni> dr_willis: update-maanger seems to be running
[10:14] <dr_willis> deni id let it run as long as you can, then hopefully it will get to a sane place you can reboot and get lucky. ;(
[10:15] <Briareos1> where does ubuntu network manager store SIM PIN?
[10:15] <Briareos1> I want to recover it from a backup (non-live system)
[10:15] <dr_willis> sim?
[10:15] <deni> dr_willis: that's hell of gamble
[10:15] <deni> what's if it prompts for something?
[10:15] <Briareos1> dr_willis: telephone/data sim card
[10:15] <deni> it's can't continue then right?
[10:16] <GoGi> argh wrong channel
[10:16] <dr_willis> deni id check askubuntu.com there may be some nice way. but ive neevr heard of a way mentioned here
[10:17] <dr_willis> deni most people come in here after they upgrade/ and have a power failure in the middle... thats really bad
[10:20] <mike23333> hi, does anyone have a XvbA compatibility list please ? i'm not sure what laptop to get, the radeon cards in my price range seem to have better benchmarks. it's about radeon 7000 series
[10:27] <chikiwang> hi
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> !hardware > mike23333
[10:28] <mike23333> not helping
[10:29] <chikiwang> what are you come from/
[10:31] <gauravgrt1> hey my installation of precise doesn't show any swap space ...i chose to encrypt the home folder during installation what could be the prob??
[10:32] <billygatz> hey is there any simulator for dna computing in ubuntu software center ?
[10:32] <zeptis> yo~
[10:32] <phix> zeptis: werd
[10:33] <billygatz> anyone?
[10:33] <phix> billygatz: what is DNA
[10:33] <phix> geines?
[10:33] <billygatz> Deoxy ribonucleic acid
[10:33] <billygatz> yes genes are a segment of dna
[10:33] <zeptis> there is a science tools section
[10:34] <zeptis> but I haven't looked there for anything apart from vector calcs, Billygatz
[10:34] <billygatz> zeptis : yes but its hard to figure out which one is usefull for dna computing
[10:34] <zeptis> does anyone know the counterpoint command of 'modprobe -r psmouse'? So as to re-enable the pad.
[10:34] <zeptis> I'm writing a script for openbox
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> billygatz  there are advanced medical programs in linux, but i guess they are commercial
[10:36] <billygatz> MonkeyDust : so you mean there is no simulator for dna computing?
[10:36] <zeptis> it doesn't mean that there isn't one
[10:36] <zeptis> just that you might be looking in the wrong place
[10:36] <zeptis> try some other repositories, Billy
[10:36] <zykotick9> zeptis: "modprobe psmouse" perhaps?
[10:36] <zeptis> zykotick, thanks mate
[10:37] <gauravgrt1> billygatz, :Unipro UGENE
[10:37] <gauravgrt1> billygatz: does that hellp??
[10:37] <zeptis> I wish commands were more symmetrical at times.
[10:38] <billygatz> gauravgrt1 : well its not there in ubuntu software center
[10:38] <deni> dr_willis: i noticed that the disk was not being used anymore so i restarted. after restart i manged to login and run sudo dpkg --configure -a because the update did not finish
[10:38] <zeptis> billygatz: you don't have to use the software center
[10:39] <dr_willis> !ppa | billygatz
[10:39] <billygatz> zeptis then what?
[10:39] <gauravgrt1> billygatz: http://ugene.unipro.ru/download.html this might help!!
[10:40] <zeptis> well, billy, you could just google it :P
[10:40] <phix> rusian site hey
[10:40] <phix> do you get a free bride with that? or just spam?
[10:40] <zeptis> ubuntu software center is nice, but isn't shackling you
[10:40] <billygatz> zeptis : thats what i am doing tight now :)
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> billygatz  there's the channel #fedora-medical and #opensuse-medical, it's the closest i get to linux and medical apps
[10:41] <zeptis> .su > .ru
[10:41] <gauravgrt1> anyone plz solve my prob
[10:41] <AZkenny> How can I fix it so I don't have to input my user password twice for login and sudo?
[10:41] <billygatz> MonkeyDust : thanx .. will go there
[10:42] <zeptis> AZkenny: wut?
[10:42] <zeptis> AZkenny: as in it actually asks you twice in each terminal?
[10:42] <AZkenny> zeptis: Yes
[10:42] <billygatz>  sudo apt-get install ugene.
[10:42] <phix> AZkenny: easy, add in NOPASSWD in the right place in /etc/sudoers
[10:42] <vampirnata> How would I install mysql 5.0 instead of 5.1? Using apt-cache search "mysql-server" only returns version 5.1.
[10:43] <phix> AZkenny: but sudo asking you for a password is a good thing
[10:43] <zeptis> phix: it's asking him twice each time
[10:44] <phix> oh
[10:44] <AZkenny> zeptis: And it does it when I login.
[10:44] <dr_willis> !pin
[10:44] <zorgborg> hi, can anyone help me use fsck to check my HDD for errors plz?
[10:44] <phix> you have any  extra stuff in your pam settings?
[10:44] <gauravgrt1> hey my installation of precise doesn't show any swap space ...i chose to encrypt the home folder during installation what could be the prob??
[10:44] <phix> like authenticate against ldap, kerberos, sql, etc.?
[10:44] <dr_willis> !fsck
[10:48] <zeptis> so, I'm trying to get an XML script to modprobe as a hotkey; as this is sudoer territory, how would I get this to execute properly without making Openbox a sudoer?
[10:48] <kammikadze> http://freeleaguecodes.com/ref?id=xio2mls2np
[10:49] <dr_willis> zeptis: you could set the modprobe command suicide. But that's a  security type risk
[10:51] <phix> zeptis: you can add users to sudo who only have access to a limited set of commands as root
[10:51] <phix> or as another user
[10:51] <dr_willis> Auto completion is messing me up.
[10:51] <zorgborg> dr_willis: does 'sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown' store errors it finds in a file that i can check once rebooted?
[10:51] <dr_willis> S u I d   bit.
[10:52] <phix> dr_willis: yeah but sudo is better to manage stuff, setuid is dangerous
[10:52] <phix> s/stuff/that stuff/
[10:52] <zeptis> >add users of sudo who only have access to a limited set of commands
[10:52] <dr_willis> you can put modprobe in sudoers
[10:52] <zeptis> Willis; docs for that sort of thing?
[10:53] <dr_willis> sudo homepage and askubuntu.com
[10:53] <phix> dr_willis: correct, using the absolute path of course ;)
[10:53] <kusuma> hi'
[10:53] <dr_willis> ! sudo
[10:53] <phix> oh hai kusuma!
[10:54] <zeptis> thanks Willis
[10:55] <krababbel> Is there a log of what dpkg warns me when for example it won't remove an unneded directory because it isn't empty? /var/log/dpkg.log doesn't have these.
[10:56] <AZkenny> any1 know why I would have to input my password in twice?
[10:58] <dr_willis> Keyring asks on login... perhaps AZkenny
[10:59] <AZkenny> dr_wilis: when I use sudo or anything
[10:59] <krababbel> I did an update using aptitude, and while doing that, I saw some warining messages and an error. Is this in some log?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !aptitude > krababbel
[11:00] <zeptis> !aptitude > zeptis
[11:01] <rax-> is it as easy as doing: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-27-generic to downgrad to this kernel?
[11:01] <ircleuser> I have a question about booting Ubuntu from a USB on a headless PC, does Ubuntu start right away or will the PC boot into windows? I wish I had a monitor...
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> rax-  downgrade may ruin your system
[11:01] <rax-> hmm
[11:01] <rax-> I could take a snapshot first
[11:01] <zeptis> AZkenny: I don't know, and that sounds borked, but you might want to see the sudo guide that Dr Willis showed me earlier
[11:01] <rax-> I only want to downgrade so I can then upgrade again
[11:02] <kbroulik> HI, I'm trying to output sound on HDMI but the HDMI device does nt show up. aplay -l gives me "Karte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]" but it does not show up in pavucontrol and I cannot get any application to output sound on hdmi
[11:02] <zeptis> !sudo > AZkenny
[11:02] <zeptis> Azkenny: if you remove the password, and then reapply it, I think that might work.
[11:03] <profiler1982> 3.5 kernel in 11.10 is it work?
[11:03] <AZkenny> zeptis: How do I do that?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> profiler1982  no, even 12.04 only has kernel 3.2
[11:04] <zeptis> AZkenny: sudo visudo <username> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[11:05] <profiler1982> ok thanks
[11:06] <zeptis> then reapply it with just 'sudo passwd' kenny.
[11:07] <AZkenny> ok
[11:07] <zeptis> that will probably work, but you obviously have some rcinit problems
[11:08] <zeptis> mandje pls go
[11:08] <zeptis> lol
[11:09] <joe12345> can anyone help me out with a VDI to vmdk conversion, where after the conversion linux doesn not boot _
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> joe12345  virtualbox?
[11:10] <joe12345> yes
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> joe12345  try the channel #virtualbox, then
[11:10] <kbroulik> okay, got it, total usability fail but now hdmi audio works
[11:11] <rax-> Hmm, I'm just gonna clone the server and downgrade the kernel
[11:11] <rax-> it's a test server but I don't really want to ruin it
[11:11] <rax-> ^^ seems the best way
[11:11] <ircleuser> So, has anyone in here tried to setup a slave machine through network access?
[11:11] <zeptis> rax: best of luck
[11:11] <joe12345> thanks
[11:21] <rax-> thanks zeptis =)
[11:21] <zeptis> you're welcome
[11:22] <zeptis> anyone here know about data handling in XML so I can PM you about stuff? I know this is an #XML question, but they're kind of dead right now.
[11:24] <appy> Greetings!
[11:24] <appy> I am unable to remove a program from my Ubuntu 12.04
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> appy: which program?
[11:24] <appy> its crossplatformui
[11:24] <bazhang> pastebin the error appy
[11:25] <appy> ok on it!
[11:25] <bazhang> !paste | appy
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> appy: ok, what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep crosspla       Thanks (Use pastebin to host)
[11:26] <zeptis> neat trick, krups
[11:26] <appy> here is the error: http://pastebin.com/dPAstDUZ
[11:27] <appy> ActionParsnip adding the output, one sec
[11:28] <appy> output of lsb_release = http://pastebin.com/WjhgjNX9
[11:29] <antivirtel> hello! Can I install ubuntu from USB where boot from USB not supported? Like boot to a Clonzilla Live CD, and start the install somehow?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:29] <BluesKaj> !plop | antivirtel
[11:30] <BluesKaj> !info plop
[11:31] <appy> any help removing crossplatformui?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> appy: gimme a sec :)
[11:32] <appy> sure, thanks!
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> appy  dirty work around: boot from a live cd or usb, then go to the partition, delete crossplatformui
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> appy: http://pastie.org/4609607
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> appy: this sort of thing is one of the huge weaknesses in package based distributions
[11:33] <appy> MonkeyDust: yeah lets see.. thanks !
[11:34] <appy> ActionParsnip: checking...
[11:35] <appy> ActionParsnip: no crossplatformui.prerm found
[11:35] <appy> should i delete all the extensions there?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> appy: look in the folder for crossplatform named files
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> appy: sounds good to me
[11:36] <appy> ActionParsnip: okies
[11:37] <appy> ActionParsnip: still getting the same error :(
[11:38] <quelsh> hi, the window switching behaves very strange, already had a hard time to change to this window
[11:38] <appy> ActionParsnip: hey thanks Mate, removing all the extensions did the job!
[11:38] <appy> ActionParsnip: Cheers!
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> appy: yay
[11:39] <Dreadtower> Hello folks
[11:39] <zeptis> yo Dread
[11:39] <appy> ActionParsnip: are U a ubuntu-developer or a 1337 User?
[11:39] <Dreadtower> I have just blown away my Windows partition and have created a new partiton
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> appy: just a long time user of linux
[11:40] <Dreadtower> So I have 290Gb of disc on /media/aldkfjhjh mounted
[11:40] <appy> Dreadtower: no offense.. congratulations. Now U can learn linux!! ;)
[11:40] <Dreadtower> Cool :)
[11:40] <appy> ActionParsnip: appreciate the help!! thanks..!!
[11:40] <zeptis> Dread: you want to repartition that bad boy as ext4?
[11:40] <Dreadtower> Now, I could run chmod on it to use it
[11:40] <Dreadtower> Ah - OK - it is ext 2 right now
[11:41] <Dreadtower> I'll redo it ext45
[11:41] <Dreadtower> ext4
[11:41] <Dreadtower> But it want it to be the primary partition
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> appy: no worries man
[11:41] <zeptis> Dreadtower: bootable primary?
[11:41] <appy> Dreadtower: ext4 much better, use fdisk
[11:41] <quelsh> hi, can anyone help me please? got an issue with window focus
[11:41] <zeptis> dreadtower: or gparted, if you like the interface.
[11:42] <Dreadtower> OK - thx
[11:42] <Dreadtower> It used to boot to GRUB
[11:42] <Dreadtower> Will it still do that now
[11:42] <appy> ActionParsnip: :) can i catch up with U on twitter?
[11:42] <Dreadtower> Or do I have to make the new partition primary for it to boot
[11:42] <zeptis> you have to set the bootable flag on it, yes, Dreadtower.
[11:42] <Dreadtower> Presumably GRUB ran from the old Windows partition
[11:42] <Dreadtower> OK - Thx
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> appy: sure @actionparsnipXL     go crazy
[11:43] <appy> Dreadtower: yeah primary, and also set the boot flag to be on, and just on that particular drive
[11:43] <zeptis> Dreadtower: GRUB is located in the MBR of the disk it's installed into
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> appy: (someone already had actionparsnip (annoying))
[11:43] <chigypt> I have installed usb-modeswitch but i don know how start using it....help please!
[11:43] <Dreadtower> Is it better to make the new drive bootable or the exisiting one
[11:43] <appy> ActionParsnip: thanks!!
[11:43] <Dreadtower> And where should I mount the new?
[11:43] <Dreadtower> So GRUB is in the partiton I've been dual-booting from
[11:44] <Dreadtower> But was it installed into the Windows partition or the Linux one
[11:44] <zeptis> Dreadtower: GRUB is not in a partition, it's in the MBR.
[11:44] <Dreadtower> Ah! OK
[11:44] <chigypt> I have installed usb-modeswitch but i don know how start using it....help please!
[11:45] <zeptis> chigypt: I'm not a user of this package, but have you tried typing 'man usb-modeswitch' into your console emulator of choice, yet?
[11:46] <Dreadtower> Please excuse me, I'm still confused
[11:46] <zeptis> sup Dread?
[11:46] <Dreadtower> Where will my new partition be mounted?
[11:46] <Dreadtower> Can I choose a mount pont?
[11:47] <chigypt> zeptis: Ok let me try that one..thanks
[11:47] <randy2009> Hi, i have something weird with ufw
[11:47] <randy2009> i see this logentry:
[11:47] <randy2009> Aug 29 13:40:33 host kernel: [416600.544578] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:0c:19:ef:d5:f4:00:10:12:a4:d0:39:08:00 SRC=192.168.123.1 DST=192.168.2.203 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=62 ID=0 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=37593 DPT=443 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0
[11:47] <randy2009> port 443 is open for everybody on ufw
[11:48] <randy2009> so why is it being blocked
[11:48] <randy2009> 443                        ALLOW       Anywhere
[11:48] <zeptis> Dreadtower: with Gparted and Libparted, you can choose that yourself, I think, although it's been awhile.
[11:48] <zeptis> I'll check that now
[11:49] <Dreadtower> OK - gparted downloaded - running
[11:49] <zeptis> Dreadtower: btw, right click a partition to set flags on it, such as bootable
[11:49] <Dreadtower> OK - thx
[11:50] <zeptis> :D thanks for bringing this up, Dreadtower, it's made me curious, so now I get to learn.
[11:51] <zeptis> Hey everyone, can Wine1.4 use an NTFS partition as a prefix space?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> zeptis: i'd ask in #winehq
[11:51] <Dreadtower> I have an extended partition and a logical ext4 mounted
[11:51] <zeptis> got it, Action.
[11:51] <Dreadtower> That's the one to boot from I think
[11:52] <zeptis> Dreadtower: careful, gparted is powerful.
[11:52] <Dreadtower> OK
[11:52] <Dreadtower> Maybe I try to boot without
[11:52] <Dreadtower> Maybe GRUB will run (though the Windows menu option obviously won;t)
[11:52] <zeptis> Dread: where are you booting from, if not the one labelled "/"
[11:53] <impi> hello. is there a reason, when I'm just running unity, and nothing else, that my nvidia gpu temp would be 70C ?
[11:53] <impi> this is really annoying.
[11:53] <s_> hi guys
[11:54] <zeptis> sup s_
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> impi  you're not the first to mention this, it's because unity is very 'graphics dependant'
[11:54] <Dreadtower> Ideally, resizing my ex4 partition would be better
[11:54] <s_> can some1 tell me how to remove ubuntu 11.10 from dual drive with Win8 and ubuntu on? without touching win8
[11:54] <Dreadtower> But I don;t think I can unmount it
[11:54] <zeptis> impi: have you cleaned your GPU this year?
[11:54] <impi> MonkeyDust, really, hectic, man thanks for this
[11:54] <zeptis> impi: you might also want to check your fans' bearings
[11:54] <impi> zeptis, uhm, ya, it's a brand new laptop.
[11:54] <zeptis> >brand new laptop
[11:55] <zeptis> RMA that, impi
[11:55] <impi> and the fan is working, cause it's on 100% and my laptop is so hot that it's uncomfortable to type...but this fan keeps blowing
[11:55] <smookey> Hey guys, can someone help me with a hopefully simple task? on 10.04 i used to pop up a disclaimer  before logging in first time on deployed machines, i used zenity for that. In 12.04 i haven't found a simple way to do that (thanks to lightdm). Anyone know, preferably without having to build a greeter?
[11:55] <zeptis> impi: what GPU?
[11:56] <impi> i think im going to try another desktop quick, perhaps kde, and see if it still gets hot...which is something i never tried
[11:56] <impi> zeptis, Nvidia 315M
[11:56] <impi> NVIDIA Driver Version: 304.43
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> s_: you will need to delete the ubuntu partition then reinstate the win8 boot loader
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> impi: do you have a hybrid graphics system by any chance?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> impi: if you run: lspci | grep -i vga   do you also see an Intel GPU too?
[11:58] <impi> ActionParsnip, i was thinking i do...but i've looked through my specs and i can see intel stuff, but i cannot tell you forsure if i have a hibrid, here is my output from lscpi
[11:58] <impi> ActionParsnip, no, i only see this: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0a7a (rev a2)
[11:59] <zeptis>  impi: crazy stuff; personally, I would RMA it, but that's up to you.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> impi: hmm,does:  sudo lshw -C display      show 2 video chips?
[11:59] <zeptis> no way in hell a new laptop should idle at 70
[11:59] <landa> hi I was wondering if someone could help me: I'm trying to dual-boot the latest ubuntu on my macbook pro retina, and I'm getting "Operating system not found" when I select ubuntu from rEFIt
[12:00] <impi> ActionParsnip, only one
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> impi: do you have the latest BIOS?
[12:00] <impi> zeptis, sorry man, what does rma mean?
[12:00] <landa> I followed the suggestions online to fix the MBR, but it didn't help
[12:00] <zeptis> Return merchandise authorization, impi: it means you're demanding a not burning laptop
[12:01] <landa> here's what partition inspector returns: http://pastebin.com/tizgn8nA
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> landa: did you fix the MBR from a chroot from the liveCD
[12:01] <pungi_man> is Debian or openSUSE better in stability ?
[12:01] <pungi_man> i want to build a server
[12:01] <landa> ActionParsnip: I fixed the MBR using a utility in OS X
[12:01] <landa> ActionParsnip: disk I think it's called
[12:01] <landa> gdisk
[12:01] <Joupi> impi : Just an info that I had similar NVIDIA problems on Kubuntu and Ubuntu after upgrading nvidia drivers ... I installed xubuntu and it runs just fine now ... I managed to give it a close look to old gnome 2.3 .. hehe
[12:01] <zeptis> pungi_man, usually Debian because they never update Squeeze repos
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> landa: I see, not played with mac at that level
[12:02] <mitsuhiko> hey. anyone any ideas why upstart might fail to start a job (nothing happens) whereas executing the command itself works?
[12:02] <zeptis> pungi_man: but this isn't the place to ask, really.
[12:02] <mitsuhiko> it just sits there and hangs
[12:02] <pungi_man> zeptis, and between Debian and Arch Linux which is better ?
[12:02] <mitsuhiko> (hangs on start, strace shows nothing but a call to waitpid)
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: there is no 'better'
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: both have advantages and disadvantages
[12:03] <pungi_man> ActionParsnip, I am asking for a stable server
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: it's like asking "between the colours red and blue, which is better"
[12:03] <zeptis> pungi_man: LOL you're seriously asking this in #ubuntu? Arch is for tryhards, Debian squeeze is for gdm fans who like old packages.
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|pungi_man:
[12:03] <sazawal> Can I make bottom panel in gnome 3 shell to unhide when a notification is received? Say a notification for message received in pidgin or xchat?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: I'd go for Debian but Arch can make a sound stable server too
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> pungi_man  'better' depends on what you need, expect and are used to; and how skilled you are
[12:04] <zeptis> pungi_man: INSTALL GENTOO FROM SOURCE USING THE 600 PAGE MANUAL
[12:04] <Dreadtower> Great. I redid the new partition as ext4, rebooting was via GRUB, and my new partition is mounted
[12:04] <pungi_man> MonkeyDust, I need it for a stable server
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> zeptis: its easier than you think, its just more manual
[12:04] <zeptis> Dread: good to hear it
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> pungi_man  ubuntu has server, too
[12:04] <gonssal> Hi all. Until yesterday I could easily mount NTFS external USB drives, but after a late-evening update yesterday i won't let me anymore. ERROR: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block device using the external FUSE library.  Either mount the device as root or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support  and make it setuid root. Any help?
[12:04] <pungi_man> ActionParsnip, zeptis : I think I should go with debian for my server
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: go for Debian, you'll be fine
[12:04] <Dreadtower> I still can't write to it though
[12:05] <pungi_man> thanks!!!
[12:05] <Dreadtower> It's on a wierd mount point
[12:05] <pungi_man> all of you!
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Dreadtower: did you chown the mount point to your user
[12:05] <zeptis> Action: I know, just having a bit of fun /g/-style.
[12:05] <Dreadtower> Just about to
[12:06] <cefege123> how can I configure dns on my server. When I type www.foo.com I want it point to my site on the server.
[12:06] <Dreadtower> It's an odd mount point though: /media/5b2328f4-fe5d-49d3-b671-fadb2e5177ab
[12:06] <zeptis> Dread: use the command umount to unmount it and then use 'mount' to do as you please with it
[12:06] <krababbel> I rebooted after a lockup, and now my initial console is low res, it was higher res before. Where should I look? I didn't change anything in grub
[12:06] <Dreadtower> Thx zeptis
[12:06] <zeptis> welcome, Dread.
[12:07] <Dreadtower> Where is itnormal to mount an extra drive?
[12:07] <bondj> hello
[12:07] <cfhowlett> bondj: greetings
[12:07] <MohamedAlaa98> hello bondj :)
[12:08] <bondj> i run 12.04 64 on intel motherboard with intel sound chip and i experience some strange sound stuttering and rediculous scratchy sounds in all kinds of sound related applications from time to time.
[12:08] <impi> zeptis, thank you for the advice, im just scared they tell me the usual crap...like ah we dont support linux and there is no linux sticker on your laptop so if you can have the same problem in windows...
[12:08] <impi> blah blah
[12:08] <bondj> and i have no idea what could cause this
[12:08] <cfhowlett> bondj: same same, although mine seems to only happen with audcity
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Dreadtower  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount /dev/blah [that name]
[12:08] <Dreadtower> OK - thanks
[12:09] <bondj> it happens with teamspeak, chromium, wine, everything
[12:09] <zeptis> impi: that's a shame, dude. You should try editing your xorg.conf and adding dwords, maybe.
[12:09] <bondj> also gmusicbrowser
[12:09] <gonssal> so i'm the only one on earth with a broken NTFS-3G after yesterday's update?
[12:10] <sedeki> Which script is called on wireless connect?
[12:10] <impi> zeptis, let me google for this dwords, thank you very much, i think ill give kde a try too, or xfce something light and and try to see if the gpu fan goes crazy too
[12:10] <sedeki> I want to do a http post request to a page (web login for the network)
[12:10] <impi> brb
[12:10] <zeptis> impi: best of luck, but I think it's probably your laptop not cooling properly.
[12:11] <impi> thanks again i appreciate the advice =) ill go back to them with my angry face
[12:11] <drvanon> Hello there, just got a second hand pc (amd Athlon 3500+) but there was only 470 mb of ram, how would i expand this?
[12:11] <MohamedAlaa98> use swap
[12:11] <zeptis> drvanon: PM me about this, it's not really an #ubuntu topic
[12:15] <Ben64> I'm on 10.04 and the update manager is now telling me about 12.04.1 ... is there a way yet to keep things the same as 10.04?
[12:16] <zeptis> Ben64: just don't update.
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  what things?
[12:16] <Ben64> zeptis: that is what i've been doing, but that can't last forever
[12:17] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: gnome-panel, non-unity, customizable wm themes
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  as of april 2013, 10.04 for desktop will be dead (eol), better upgrade to 12.04 and get used to it
[12:18] <zeptis> Ben64: open gconf-editor and uncheck auto_launch, then.
[12:18] <fjdksj> ping
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Ben64: you know you don't HAVE to upgrade.  10.40 is supported until 13.04
[12:18] <randy2009> what does this mean? limit: avg 3/min burst 5 (in iptables)
[12:18] <Ben64> but i'm already falling behind in updates
[12:18] <jrib> Ben64: yes, sometime between now and april 2013 you should find a convenient time to upgrade to 12.04 and find a nice environment you enjoy
[12:19] <zeptis> jrib Monkeydust: if it ain't broke...
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Ben64: or try out xubuntu or lubuntu.  If you're falling behind, bite the bullet and upgrade.  Meanwhile, virtualbox will allow you to try out the other distros without risking your system.
[12:19] <Ben64> which relates my original question - is there a way to keep the same functionality in 12.04?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Ben64: not exactly the same as the DE has and will continue to change.
[12:19] <Ben64> only gnome-panel has the plugins that I want/need
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  gnome3 is different from gnome2, better get used to it
[12:20] <xrdodrx> Ben64: obviously, the source is all open, gnome 2 has ports.
[12:20] <jrib> Ben64: you can't use gnome-2 exactly, but there are a few similar options
[12:20] <xrdodrx> there's no reason to update until 2013 though
[12:20] <xrdodrx> if you don't want to
[12:20] <cdavis> Is there a way to have Ubuntu doing very deep packet inspection and blocking things like Java script, etc? Something similar to what a security appliance might do?
[12:20] <Ben64> wine 1.5 doesn't exist for 10.04, as does a lot of newer software
[12:20] <fjdksj> it's been 1 year and people still trolling about gnome3?
[12:20] <zeptis> Ben64: you could just apt-get into the ubuntu ppa you want for stuff you want.
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  yes, taht's another reason to upgrade to 12.04
[12:21] <zeptis> gnome3 is hueg, fjdkj
[12:21] <smt> hi, got a simple question, will the upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 break my (heavily customized) desktop environment?
[12:21] <zeptis> smt: yes, we were just on this topic
[12:22] <Ben64> i'm not trolling. I just don't like gnome3 or unity. I play a lot of games and they don't work well with desktop effects
[12:22] <cfhowlett> smt: yep.
[12:22] <smt> damn
[12:22] <gry> smt, what desktop environment are you using?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> smt: xubuntu or lubuntu or even kubuntu are options
[12:22] <smt> gnome on a multiseat multihead system with compiz and a custom layout
[12:22] <gry> smt, cinnamon would be something you may want to look into; it's a gnome fork intended to be similar to gnome 2 in architecture
[12:22] <j`ey_w> hey guys, can someone tell me the name of the screenlock program?
[12:23] <j`ey_w> and will it work with other WMs.
[12:23] <Ben64> last time I tried 12.04, the theming was very bad. Colors wouldn't be uniform across the desktop, some text was unreadable, and there was no way to fix it
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  if you don't like desktop effects, use ubuntu classic, it looks a lot like gnome2
[12:23] <gonssal>  so noone else noticed that an update that happened yesterday broke usb mounting capabilities on Ubuntu 12.04?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> gonssal  or it didnt
[12:23] <cfhowlett> gonssal: maybe it's just you ...
[12:23] <harald_> j`ey_w: you should check out run_once("gnome-power-manager")
[12:24] <gonssal> MonkeyDust: well my pendrives were perfectly automounting before the update, then after it they wont mont anymore
[12:24] <smt> hmm so ill stick to 10.04 for now...thanks for that quick answers
[12:24] <gonssal> ERROR: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block device using the external FUSE library.  Either mount the device as root or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support  and make it setuid root
[12:24] <harald_> j`ey_w: I'm running gnome-power-manager with awesome (a tiling wm)
[12:24] <Ben64> gonssal: have you tried rebooting?
[12:24] <gonssal> just updated and restarted
[12:24] <gonssal> yes Ben
[12:25] <Shadow`> any way to have netstat -lp show actual ports instead of the portname?
[12:25] <j`ey_w> harald_: hm
[12:25] <gonssal> the funniest part about the error is that the pendrives are FAT32 formatted
[12:26] <gonssal> apparently it detects them as NTFS for some reason after the update
[12:26] <j`ey_w> harald_: Im just looking for the command to run the screenlock :/
[12:26] <harald_> j`ey_w: tested slock ?
[12:29] <gonssal> nah, restarting into windows so i can use my pendrives, thx anyways
[12:29] <mitsuhiko> anyone seen this upstart behavior? https://gist.github.com/5f9061af79bb8b38d240
[12:29] <rax-> linux-image-3.2.0-27-generic is already the newest version.
[12:29] <rax-> hmph
[12:29] <rax-> uname shows 3.2.0-29
[12:30] <Ben64> rax-: that just means you have old versions installed also
[12:31] <sazawal> Can I make bottom panel in gnome 3 shell to unhide when a notification is received? Say a notification for message received in pidgin or xchat?
[12:31] <rax-> hm ok, so I need to make it boot to the old one
[12:31] <rax-> and then uninstall the new one?
[12:32] <Ben64> rax-: what are you trying to do
[12:32] <akiller> #poland
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !pl|akiller:
[12:32] <rax-> yea ok I'm booting into -27 now
[12:32] <rax-> Ben64: I want to repreat the dist-upgrade process to -29
[12:33] <sazawal> Can I make bottom panel in gnome 3 shell to unhide when a notification is received? Say a notification for message received in pidgin or xchat?
[12:33] <zeptis> !patience > sazawal
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> sazawal: do you mean the gnome-panel ?
[12:34] <Ben64> rax-: it's not a dist upgrade to get a new kernel. what is the goal of what you are doing?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  gnome3 is not (yet) as customizable as gnome2
[12:36] <sazawal> zeptis, actually my xchat crashed, so I posted it again. Sorry.
[12:36] <rax-> Ben64: I encountered a problem during the kernel update to -29 and want to see if I can replicate it
[12:36] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, yes. I thought may be someone has a solution. Thanks though :)
[12:38] <Monotoko> how can I update an AWS version of Ubuntu... it doesn't want to do it over SSH
[12:38] <Monotoko> yet SSH is the only access I have
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: sure,   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <BebopSteve> Hey guys
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> what's aws?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> BebopSteve: greetings
[12:39] <Monotoko> EC2 - Amazon
[12:39] <Monotoko> ActionParsnip, I need to actually upgrade sorry to 12.04
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade  | Monotoko
[12:40] <BebopSteve> I'm trying to find a simple way to manipulate the clock in the panel
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> BebopStev manipulate?
[12:41] <BebopSteve> Move it to the center and make it display the day name, number, month and time
[12:41] <Monotoko> ActionParsnip, not very helpful as it's a server with only SSH access
[12:42] <BebopSteve> Actually some way to manipulate the panel at all would be nice
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: if you actually READ thelink, it has a server method which is 100% text based, so is helpful
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: want me to tell you how to do it?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades     change: Prompt=normal    to:   Prompt=normal    press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER. Now run:   sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:44] <BebopSteve> Gonna grab a smoke, if anyone knows, please send me a PM?  I don't know how to filter the connects/disconnects with pidgin
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: all copied and pasted from the link ubottu gave..
[12:45] <dr_willis> prompt=normal twice?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Change to:   Prompt=lts
[12:51] <BebopSteve> google is being so evasive on the subject man
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> i try to avoid google as much as possible, pity their maps are the 'best' around
[12:54] <FlowRiser> BebopSteve, google is always evasive when searching for linux regarding problems :D
[12:55] <BebopSteve> everyone used to love google
[12:55] <BebopSteve> now there's this distaste for it it seems
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> BebopSteve: try duckduckgo. Its bang syntax is awesome
[12:56] <zeptis> RMS called chrome a botnet
[12:56] <j`ey_w> harald_: cant get slock to work for some reason
[12:56] <BebopSteve> shame chrome is so awesome
[12:56] <FlowRiser> zeptis, chrome just uses too much cpu O.o
[12:56] <BebopSteve> I switched back to Fx though
[12:57] <BebopSteve> ActionParsnip: I was using duckduckgo while giving mint 13 cinnamon a test drive, in all honesty I was turned off by how loud it was
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> BebopSteve: how do you mean loud?
[12:58] <zeptis> BebopSteve: but DDG cares about your freedoms
[12:58] <BebopSteve> Too much noise
[12:58] <BebopSteve> trying to think of how to explain
[12:58] <j`ey_w> too much on the page
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> BebopSteve: not seeing any of that
[12:59] <BebopSteve> yeah, too much on the page
[13:00] <BebopSteve> also the logo is ...  call me shallow but it hurts my eyes
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> BebopSteve: check the bang syntaxes you can use though, plus no bubble and no tracking (if that bothers you)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> BebopSteve: I use speed dial 2 in chrome, i have my search engine set to duck duck go, never seen the logo
[13:01] <cfhowlett> BebopSteve: you're shallow - now, do you have any actual ubuntu issues?  Or perhaps it's best to move this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic?  :)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> BebopSteve: well, not huge
[13:01] <zeptis> Bebop: just change in settings for look and feel
[13:01] <xorox90_> is it possible to change old slow hdd directory to new fast ssd directory by command `ln`?
[13:01] <BebopSteve> actually I do cfhowlett
[13:01] <cfhowlett> BebopSteve: plz ask
[13:01] <BebopSteve> I asked a while ago
[13:02] <zeptis> DDG cares about my privacy, Google sells my information, Yahoo and Bing are google but not useful.
[13:02] <BebopSteve> and the topic kinda shifted because I said I was having a hard time finding the solution through google
[13:02] <BebopSteve> then suddenly interesting tangent
[13:02] <zeptis> Bebop: could you please repeat your question?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> zeptis: don't forget the bubble :)
[13:03] <cfhowlett> BebopSteve: no worries.  Maybe repeat the questions every 15 minutes or so for those of us who didn't see the original post?
[13:03] <BebopSteve> Sorry was scrolling up
[13:03] <BebopSteve> zeptis: I'm trying to find a simple way to manipulate the clock in the panel, also a way to really manipulate what is where in the panel at all
[13:04] <zeptis> Action: what bubble?
[13:04] <zeptis> Bebop: gnome-panel?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> zeptis: http://dontbubble.us/
[13:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:05] <BebopSteve> zeptis: up top, yeah
[13:06] <zeptis> Bebop: what do you want it to do?
[13:07] <BebopSteve> Center the clock and give it some new flags like day name and month
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> BebopSteve   gnome3 is not (yet) as customizable as gnome2
[13:07] <BebopSteve> le gasp
[13:08] <BebopSteve> alright, thanks, I'll be watching out
[13:08] <Joupi> Bebop : Try Gnome2 fallback session in the mean time ...
[13:10] <zeptis> gsettings list-keys org.gnome.shell.clock only has options for minutes and seconds right now, Bebop. Sorry Gnome sucks.
[13:10] <zeptis> If you're going to make a new program with less features, you should start making video games.
[13:11] <BebopSteve> haha
[13:12] <tech1> how can i enable to run scripts in ~/bin/subfolder ? right now it only works if i have scripts in ~/bin
[13:13] <alexr2> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu.  I have 2 hard drives.  Win8 is on the first one.  I want to install ubuntu on the same hard drive.  The installation completes successfully, but when I reboot, it auto boots to win8, without giving me the option to boot up linux.  Any suggestions?
[13:13] <magicalChicken> tech1: add that dir to your path with $PATH=$PATH:/home/youruser/bin/subfolder in your .bashrc
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !grub|alexr2
[13:14] <tech1> thanks ill do that
[13:14] <cfhowlett> alexr2: I'd try reinstalling grub via the tutorial link
[13:15] <otkrick> did anybody use seamlessrdp?
[13:15] <alexr2> cfhowlett, thanks, I'll try that
[13:16] <cfhowlett> alexr2: best of luck
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| otkrick
[13:16] <BebopSteve> I don't understand that botmsg
[13:17] <zeptis> !poll > zeptis
[13:17] <jrib> BebopSteve: which one?
[13:17] <BebopSteve> jrib: the "real question" lol
[13:17] <zeptis> ubottu is a pretty cool guy, eh schools you and doesn't afraid of anything
[13:18] <zeptis> Bebop: people ask 'does anyone else' when they should be more like 'this is broken. wat do?'
[13:19] <jrib> BebopSteve: well when people don't ask there real question, the following happens: "can anyone help me with a question?"  <-- "No one can know if they can help until the person asks the real question"
[13:19] <BebopSteve> ahaha
[13:19] <BebopSteve> most people do that because they're trying to be polite and not impose
[13:20] <jrib> BebopSteve: of course, but it's not appropriate on a large irc channel, thus the factoid
[13:20] <BebopSteve> a large channel is pretty imposing in itself
[13:21] <captine> hi all.  i am really struggling to understand what my issue is with ubuntu and my wifi.  I am connected to wireless at 100MB/s yet transfer to the usb drive which is connected to the router is almost at dialup modem speed.  refer http://i.imgur.com/6pggC.png .  only 2 computers connected to the network, and my wifes is not using internet other than google docs she is workin on
[13:21] <otkrick> ubottu: sorry
[13:21] <client-alive> Josephmills: are you around?
[13:22] <otkrick> I'm using howto http://www.cendio.com/seamlessrdp/, but rdesktop always open full desktop. can anybody help me?
[13:22] <BebopSteve> captine:  Sorry to ask as you probably have already checked, but is this issue only on ubuntu or have you checked from other computers with windows?
[13:23] <zeptis> I've added the 'ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa' to my apt-get repos, but can't apt-get wine1.5. What's the issue here?
[13:24] <baizon> zeptis: are you sure you added it right?
[13:24] <baizon> have you done an update after adding?
[13:24] <ImperialDroid> Hi, I think I had trashed my entire system. How do I reinstall Linux from cmd line?
[13:24] <baizon> ImperialDroid: take the CD and make a reinstall
[13:25] <zeptis> baizon: it didn't throw anything when I added it.
[13:25] <ImperialDroid> I dont have cd, Do I need to redo the USB thing again?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: you have the iso on computer?
[13:26] <captine> BebopSteve, macbook is much quicker.  going about 2-3MB/s
[13:26] <ImperialDroid> cfhowlett, I do not know. How do I find out?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: kinda hoping you had saved it to the hdd.  If not, download the iso, make a usb/cdrom and reinstall.
[13:27] <captine> BebopSteve, both computers connected to the 2.4GHz of the router.  is a Netgear WNDR3700V2, so should be pretty capable.
[13:27] <bondj> can anyone help me with fixing my sound
[13:27] <ImperialDroid> Anyone have a link to a good explanation about reinstalling linux with a USB device?
[13:28] <bondj> i run intel sound chip and i get scratchy stuttering in lots of apps
[13:28] <baizon> ImperialDroid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:28] <CharlieSu> Is it possible for me to install 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.5 from Ubuntu 10.10 onto a 12.04 server?  I ask because there is a show-stopper bug that hasn't been fixed yet in 12.04  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/967410
[13:28] <bondj> and i don't know why
[13:28] <BebopSteve> captine: Try connecting your ubuntu computer to the router with an ethernet cable to see if the issue isolates to your wireless card
[13:28] <Scunizi> ImperialDroid: same as a cd, you just have to tell the computer to boot to the usb device
[13:28] <Scunizi> list
[13:29] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:29] <zeptis> Droid: if you want to burn from cli, you can use mkisofs
[13:29] <captine> BebopSteve, Cable is going at 7.2MB/s
[13:30] <ImperialDroid> I dont have Windows, how do I get into the boot menu?
[13:30] <thechef> ubuntu needs a project butter
[13:30] <captine> BebopSteve, 1 minute to transfer file.  I am using broadcom proprietary driver on Acer 4655G
[13:30] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: windows has nothing to do with bios.  During initial boot, you'll see "press *some Key* for boot options.
[13:30] <ImperialDroid> Ok, I will try that cfhowlett, thanks
[13:30] <deadmund> ImperialDroid: every mother board is different.  Usually F11, F10, F2, ESC, Delete
[13:30] <captine> BebopSteve, so must be the wifi.  could it be linked to power saving on the wifi when on battery?  let me plug into power to test
[13:32] <BebopSteve> captine: the problem is interesting, I'm assuming you have no issues downloading things that are not local to your network, like a torrent or something?
[13:32] <captine> BebopSteve, internet was a little slow.  just plugged into power, and now the file transfer on wifi is 3.3MB/s
[13:32] <bores> show to list channels in this irc?
[13:32] <captine> which is massive improvement
[13:33] <bores> how to list channels in this irc?
[13:33] <t0rc> I am trying to communicate with a FTDI FT232 USB-Serial (UART)
[13:33] <t0rc> device using ttyUSB0 and C++. minicom works just fine with the
[13:33] <t0rc> device and when I mimic the stty settings from minicom in my C++
[13:33] <t0rc> program, the program does not always respond. Any suggestions?
[13:33] <Scunizi> .
[13:34] <matehowsit> join #nodejitsu
[13:34] <matehowsit> oops
[13:34] <BebopSteve> captine: research a way to disable the power saver on your wifi, not optimal but I'm not sure otherwise, maybe submit a bug report in the meantime, but boot into windows to test it first
[13:35] <BebopSteve> could just be an issue with that particular model
[13:35] <ImperialDroid> Hi, I was just in here talking about how to get into my BIOS. I restarted my machine and there was no "press this or that to get into BIOS" prompt. How the heck do I get into the BIOS?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: what's your computer make/model?
[13:36] <ImperialDroid> Its an ACER netbook
[13:36] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: more info?  model #?
[13:36] <captine> BebopSteve, Thanks.  I bought my machine without Windows, to prove to my wife that Ubuntu can work for day to day needs (she uses a Mac).  will look into the powersave
[13:37] <ImperialDroid> cfhowlett, how do I find that out?
[13:37] <root> .org
[13:37] <BebopSteve> captine: and you must win!  the wife must not know of the bug!
[13:37] <BebopSteve> captine: I'm rooting for you :p
[13:37] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: read the labels?  look under the battery?
[13:37] <romeoh> imperialdroid: if it's a brand new computer it might be a uefi issue
[13:38] <captine> BebopSteve, agree...  but i had to borrow the mac to test the transfer... so too late.  I just wish nvidia would support optimus on my machine... would make things so much easier...
[13:38] <BebopSteve> I heard about that while reading through the steam linux blog, sounds like a damn headache
[13:39] <ImperialDroid> Its actually a Lenova Ideadpad.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: looks like F2 might bring up bios.  reboot and hit f2 after the beep
[13:39] <romeoh> bios is being replaced by uefi on new computers
[13:39] <ImperialDroid> I cant really look under it because it has so many wires running into it right now
[13:39] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: wait 1
[13:39] <ImperialDroid> its got an atom processor
[13:40] <ImperialDroid> its pretty old. probably 2 years old
[13:40] <cfhowlett> ImperialDroid: tell you what, reboot, hit F2.  doesn't work, reboot hit F3.  Eventually you'll get the bios menu
[13:40] <BebopSteve> captine:  If you find time, take a look here:  http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/#comments  It may give you some insight or clues as to the optimus issues, there was some communication about it
[13:40] <ImperialDroid> ok cfhowlett thanks buddy
[13:43] <equex> is there a way to remove all the packages from openoffice without having synaptic wanting to remove gnome-base as well ? (10.4 lts)
[13:44] <equex> can i do it with dpkg without harming the system?
[13:44] <jasonz> brought a game in desura zomboid just wont start
[13:45] <Scunizi>  equex I think that gnome-base is a meta package which won't harm the system if it's removed.. however wait for someone else to confirm that or google it to make sure.
[13:46] <Striatum> irc://irc.kametsu.com/Kametsu)
[13:47] <equex> Scunizi: i went ahead and did it anyway, and what do you know, they apparently removed the dependency
[13:47] <equex> that was annoying with earlier versions
[13:47] <Scunizi> equex: :)
[13:47] <pungi_man> how to make the size of an image to the size of an icon so that I can use it in my java application ?
[13:48] <equex> before you could remove writer,presentation and all the other stuff, but if you tried to remove the final packages like openoffice-core and -common, it would depend on removing the entire desktop as well
[13:48] <equex> :D
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> pungi_man  resize with GIMP
[13:49] <BebopSteve> monkeydust: that's what I was thinking but then I thought he might have meant something else lol
[13:49] <pungi_man> MonkeyDust, I dont know how to use GIMP
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> pungi_man  then this is the opportunity to learn it
[13:50] <pungi_man> MonkeyDust, I will try it ... thanks for the help!
[13:50] <BebopSteve> pungi_man:  It's not that bad, trust me
[13:51] <equex> gives me a nice and clean feeling to remove all the cruft :)
[13:51] <BebopSteve> equex: you going with libre or office on wine?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> pungi_man  in GIMP, it's Image > Scale image
[13:52] <equex> BebopSteve: my needs only calls for lightweight editors
[13:52] <Scunizi> abiword? or nano (or similar)
[13:52] <equex> so i dont really need an office suite with a kitchensink
[13:52] <BebopSteve> ahaha
[13:52] <equex> yeah, abiword the the likes
[13:52] <BebopSteve> hey, kitchen sinks are nice
[13:53] <equex> hehe
[13:53] <BebopSteve> like those kohlers
[13:53] <equex> i use nano for quick shell editing though :)
[13:53] <equex> i like Scite too
[13:54] <erictr1ck> so i have an asus cm6878, 3rd gen i7 with onboard intel hd 4000 graphics and am experiencing random freezes as reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/999910?comments=all . after reading the comments I still can't really make heads or tails as to which kernel to upgrade to fix the issue. Any suggestions?
[13:55] <enhanced> figures, I don't find a ton of issues documented in 10.04 to 12.04.1 upgrade path.. then when I try.. melts
[13:57] <Scunizi> enhanced: upgrade path has never worked for me on several machines, laptops, desktops etc. I always hope but end up doing a fresh install saving my /home on a different partition.
[13:57] <enhanced> yeah, looks like that's my path lol
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Scunizi: probably the best policy
[13:57] <enhanced> I mean, python failed to install in the upgrade
[13:57] <enhanced> you know, little things like core dependencies
[13:57] <enhanced> and resolving this by hand is growing tiresome
[13:58] <Scunizi> enhanced: mine wouldn't shutdown.. even from the cli
[13:58] <kriegaffe> Is there anybody here who knows which version of nfs-utils is being used by busybox?
[13:58] <enhanced> Scunizi: d'oh
[14:00] <enhanced> Scunizi: I can get to cli.. but when I issue say a apt-get install -f it blows up on rhythmbox removal.. try to dig into that.. and it's just unable to install Depends etc etc
[14:01] <equex> I keep getting kernel: [    9.052268] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr on nearly all distros, and many won't even boot. i have 'upgraded my bios' but what do i do if i want to 'force_addr=0xaddr' ? what address are they talking about ?
[14:01] <Scunizi> enhanced: funny how the upgrade path affects machines differently..
[14:01] <just187> hi i have a problem mounting a nfs share, message is stale nfs file handle. i can mount / unmount fine, its not busy thought as soon as i want to access it i get "stale nfs file handle"
[14:10] <enhanced> and so the copy begins lol
[14:10] <enhanced> love me some external USB3 drive foo ha
[14:10] <enhanced> later all
[14:11] <vm> how do i bypass login step in ubuntu?
[14:11] <vm> how do i bypass login step in starting ubuntu?
[14:12] <veryape> vm: system settings -> accounts or something like that
[14:14] <SERALEFRA> Ciao, lista!
[14:14] <SERALEFRA> list!
[14:14] <secretsihaveseen> is kim kardashian a virgin?
[14:15] <ashi> hi
[14:15] <secretsihaveseen> !ops
[14:15] <secretsihaveseen> !staff
[14:15] <ashi> hello
[14:16] <Sokel> hi
[14:16] <cgtdk> Hello
[14:16] <ashi> want help
[14:16] <Pici> !ask
[14:17] <vm> veryape: automatic login?
[14:17] <veryape> yeah
[14:19] <ashi> getting linux jobs
[14:19] <fixxxermet> Using Ubuntu 12.04.  Can I install any of the 3.5 or 3.6 kernels from mainline, or only the 3.4?
[14:20] <Sokel> fixxxermet: Manual install. Manual building. Google it.
[14:20] <fixxxermet> Sokel: I've read that the deb's in mainline can be used?
[14:24] <impi> i was in here earlier about my graphics card that was getting hot
[14:24] <Sokel> impi: What about it getting hot
[14:25] <impi> i dont know when it happened, but nvidia moddded my xorg.conf and added a coolbits 5 in there
[14:25] <impi> i removed it, and restarted and it seems better now, the fan still goes ape crazy, but at least the temp is down to <60
[14:26] <Sokel> impi: Coolbits comes from the nvidia settings itself.
[14:28] <impi> Sokel, yea i saw it, in their wiki, it does provide some overclocking features, thats now gone since i;'ve commented out that line
[14:29] <Sokel> impi: Coolbits does not control overclocking.
[14:29] <marcos> hello evrybody
[14:30] <impi> okay, but like i said since i've commented out that line, my nvidia settings no longer provide me with overclocking abilities
[14:30] <impi> now my temp is 56C
[14:30] <impi> thank God
[14:33] <impi> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Nvidia#Activating_Coolbits.3B_Overclocking_Controls_for_nVIDIA_Settings
[14:35] <Monotoko> uhm... my server seems to be caught in a loop during the upgrade
[14:36] <bryan_glazer> Is a question about using terminal appropriate here?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> bryan_glazer  let's here it
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> hear*
[14:37] <BebopSteve> Will this break my desktop on ubuntu 12.04?  http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-myeos-gnome-shell-theme-on.html
[14:37] <bryan_glazer> So i have a really long output from octave in terminal, It's waiting for me to press enter to show the next line. I'd like to skip all the way to the end. Is there a way to do that?
[14:37] <gyre007> sudo is behaving really weird on my Ubuntu box...
[14:38] <gyre007> I have a /etc/sudoers.d/username file defined...which is being completely ignored...
[14:38] <sjones_> gyre007: what do you want that file to do?
[14:38] <gyre007> I want to specify the user(s) which will have sudo password disabled
[14:39] <gyre007> it works on one of the machine but it doesnt on another one :)
[14:39] <gyre007> same OS version
[14:39] <gyre007> 11.10
[14:39] <sjones_> have you tried `visudo` ?
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> bryan_glazer  what's octave?
[14:40] <bryan_glazer> MonkeyDust: it's basically opensource Matlab
[14:40] <gyre007> sjones_, I have
[14:41] <sjones_> gyre007: so you have added user ALL=(ALL) ALL
[14:42] <gyre007> sjones_, nope. I have the following: user_name ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[14:42] <gyre007> on both servers...on one of them it's working and sudo doesnt prompt for passwd...on the other one it's not...
[14:42] <BebopSteve> Is there a way to refresh available themes without logging out
[14:43] <sjones_> gyre007: that is strange, have you tried to restart the server it is not working on
[14:43] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 2 starting in ~15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:43] <edgardo> 1568
[14:44] <gyre007> sjones_, I hope I dont have to restart it :D it's not windowzzzzz
[14:45] <sjones_> gyre007: lol well have you got a group called wheel?
[14:45] <gyre007> why would I need that one ??
[14:47] <sjones_> Read more: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/configuring-sudo-and-adding-users-to.html#ixzz24wkx8Mg5
[14:47] <bryan_glazer> MonkeyDust: figured it out, pressing the 'End' button skips to the end. Big shocker there :P
[14:47] <gyre007> what...that is not really related :)
[14:48] <gyre007> my issue is that the config is working on one server and not on another one...this link is telling me to add the users to wheel group...i dont want that...
[14:49] <mneptok> gyre007: "admin" is the group on Ubuntu. not wheel.
[14:49] <theadmin> mneptok: "admin", or in the recent releases, "sudo" too.
[14:49] <gyre007> mneptok, fair enough...still not closer to understanding my issue :)
[14:50] <Newtoubuntu> hey guys. ive discovered i literally have to adjust my screen brightness at the grub menu to boot int oubuntu properly and to have my drivers kick in. this is driving me mad. anyone have any idea how this can be fixed. yes i have an intel processor which ubuntu hates :)
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  i have intel, never had that issue, it must be something else
[14:53] <Newtoubuntu> MonkeyDust, i have came across it many times in forums. i was attempting all fixes and none stuck. i edited the grubs settings and those didnt take either.
[14:53] <Newtoubuntu> i was originally using the nomodeset to boot into ubuntu, which then left me in low res mode. i still couldnt properly fix my issue
[14:54] <Newtoubuntu> i have updated all i can and still no luck
[14:56] <Newtoubuntu> this is such a pain 0_0
[14:59] <rg8032> anyone having trouble getting a GeForce 8600M GT working in 12.04?
[15:00] <xpistos> Hello. I have enlightment on my system and when I tried to boot into it, the settings are messed up I can't do anything except CTRL.ALT.F4 to reboot but then it goes right back. Is there a way to force ubuntu to let me pick an desktop manager if I am on auto login?
[15:00] <gyre007> ah,..was missing #includedir directive
[15:00] <dr_willis> rg8032: you could check askubuntu.com or the forums. if anyone has.. theres bound to be some info there
[15:00] <szal> rg8032: what good would it do you if someone answered yes to that question? collective whining? ;)
[15:00] <rg8032> szal: validation
[15:00] <rg8032> szal: confirmation of a wider problem and not an isolated issue
[15:00] <rg8032> szal: and ... of course ... collective whining
[15:00] <dr_willis> xpistos: log out. select the session. let it autologin from then on it will remember.
[15:01] <dr_willis> xpistos:  or edit your .dmrc file
[15:01] <rg8032> dr_willis: thanks.  I will do that.
[15:01] <xpistos> dr_willis: I can't I have no gui. Where is the .dmrc file located?
[15:01] <dr_willis> xpistos:  the console works finr to edit text files
[15:01] <dr_willis> its in your home dir
[15:01] <xpistos> I will check
[15:02] <rg8032> xpistos: the console is great.  I do almost all my work in a console.
[15:02] <xpistos> I do too, but this was beyond me
[15:02] <xpistos> what is the unity session name
[15:02] <xpistos> Session=unity?
[15:03] <szal> rg8032: anyhow, what exactly isn't working?
[15:03] <|Anthony|> will 10.04 be able to run a sandy bridge or ivy bridge?
[15:03] <dr_willis> have someone pastebin their .dmrc for unity ;) then save it somewhere
[15:03] <|Anthony|> i remember reading that those cpus need a 3.x kernel
[15:04] <xpistos> can anyone tell me what their session says in ~/.dmrc?
[15:05] <jrib> xpistos: why?
[15:05] <graphikeye> hi...can someone explain virtual hosts to a newb ...?
[15:05] <Guest56805> Hi everyone, I'm searching apps to create wireframes. somebody knows what apps can I install on Ubuntu 10.04???
[15:05] <xpistos> jrib: I can't get logged in to my desktop because enlightment is freaking out
[15:05] <xpistos> jrib: I want to change it's defual to unity
[15:05] <jrib> xpistos: have you tried just renaming it...?
[15:05] <Sazpaimon_> trying to do a find command where the directories are the output of another command
[15:05] <dr_willis> if you just delete your .dmrc or rename it.. it will use the systm default
[15:06] <proti> xpistos: remove the file...
[15:06] <xpistos> ok
[15:06] <dr_willis> id suggest diaabling autologin also
[15:06] <xpistos> rebooting
[15:07] <theadmin> After using the OEM installer, is there a way to preserve user settings of the "oem" user? I'd think copying stuff over to /etc/skel/ but I'm not sure
[15:07] <dr_willis> no need to reboot..
[15:07] <Sazpaimon_> basically I'm doing "find `awk -F: '/1003/ {printf("/home/%s ", $1)}' /etc/passwd` -type f" and getting "find: `/home/user1 /home/user2 /home/user3 /home/user4 ': No such file or directory"
[15:07] <dr_willis> xpistos:  sudo service lightdm restart   would work
[15:07] <graphikeye> if i have a virtual host set up on an apache server pointing to the same IP address....con I point to it from the client?
[15:08] <xpistos> no good it defaulted back to enlightenment
[15:08] <Sazpaimon_> is there a way to fix that?
[15:09] <karloz> Hi there. I am forwarded to this place here to get support for a problem no bug-report can be made for I do not run the latest development version.
[15:09] <karloz> I use corners in compiz to display all windows or desktops. (expo and "skalieren"). In the first place, "skalieren" sometimes works, sometimes not. sometimes it does not work although expo works, sometimes both do not.
[15:09] <karloz> How can I examine the problem? How can I investigate the problem.
[15:09] <karloz> It always works when switching it off-and-on. Sometimes it works and does not after resume of suspend-mode. Sometimes other way round.
[15:09] <karloz> strange problem. can anybody help?
[15:09] <FloodBot1> karloz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <karloz> thx in advance..
[15:09] <iamtony> Hi, how can I find which version of libcairo2-dev I have installed? (It was installed via apt-get)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> karloz: use:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect    manual style
[15:10] <xpistos> dr_willis: no, that just restarted enlightenment.
[15:10] <karloz> okay, thanks!
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> iamtony: apt-cache policy libcairo2-dev
[15:10] <karloz> (sorry for flooding)
[15:10] <iamtony> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[15:11] <dr_willis> xpistos:  you cant just log out of enlightment?
[15:11] <xpistos> no
[15:11] <xpistos> rebooting takes me right back
[15:11] <|Anthony|> will 10.04 be able to run a sandy bridge or ivy bridge?
[15:11] <|Anthony|> i remember reading that those cpus need a 3.x kernel
[15:11] <dr_willis> not reboot.. just log out..
[15:11] <xpistos> I cant'
[15:12] <xpistos> there is no functionality in the gui
[15:12] <dr_willis> hit up google, or askubuntu.com for whats in a .dmrc file for unity, and id disable autologin also
[15:12] <auronandace> |Anthony|: you are correct, 10.04 won't run sandy and ivy bridge
[15:12] <dr_willis> enlightment has a logout/exit in its right click m enus last i looked
[15:13] <|Anthony|> thank you auronandace
[15:13] <xpistos> dr_willis: Correct, but I have NO functionality in the gui
[15:13] <dr_willis> xpistos:  so has enlightment ever worked?
[15:14] <xpistos> yes
[15:14] <xpistos> I did an update in unity and then loged out and tried to login to enlightenment
[15:15] <dr_willis> you could delete your enlightment settings and  reset enlightment defaults. i guess. im not on a ubutntu box so cant paste my .dmrc
[15:16] <theadmin> My .dmrc simply has Session=default in the [Desktop] session, and nothing else.
[15:16] <dr_willis> and his default seems to be enlightment now
[15:17] <cdavis> What package do I need to resolve this? curl/types.h: No such file or directory
[15:17] <dr_willis> not sure where you change the default x session at.
[15:17] <theadmin> cdavis: I suppose something like "curl-dev" or "curl-devel".
[15:18] <theadmin> !find curl/types.h
[15:18] <theadmin> Eh.
[15:18] <theadmin> (ignore that)
[15:19] <xpistos> theadmin: that only works if the last time I logged in wasn't e17 so defualt goes right back to whatever you last logged in as
[15:21] <dr_willis> i imagine .dmrc should have a Session=unity line
[15:22] <jrbergdorff> I was wondering if anyone can answer a background question
[15:23] <Meris> jrbergdorff, Welcome back :-)
[15:23] <dr_willis> ask it and see
[15:23] <jrbergdorff> thanks Meris
[15:24] <jrbergdorff> her Meris, got a question for you...
[15:24] <xpistos> none of that works. keeps defualting to enlightenment no matter what I do. Is there a way to tell it not to auto login using the command line?
[15:25] <Meris> jrbergdorff, if you ask it here, more people will be able to help you than in a PM session.
[15:25] <dr_willis> xpistos:  edit some lightdm.conf file i think
[15:25] <theadmin> xpistos: Look for lightdm related stuff under /etc is the best I can suggest
[15:25] <theadmin> And use vim/nano to edit it
[15:25] <dr_willis> licate lightdm.conf
[15:25] <dr_willis> locate lightdm.conf
[15:26] <dr_willis> sudo nano /path/to/it
[15:26] <jrbergdorff> k, well I am wondering why when I shut down my pc and restart it why does my desktop background disappear
[15:27] <dr_willis> jrbergdorff: where is the wallpaper file saved to?
[15:28] <jrbergdorff> it's saved on the window7 partition, but everytime I set it up I save it to my pictures in ubuntu and then shut down and it's gone
[15:28] <dr_willis> if its on a ntfs/vfat or external drive.. thnr it may not be accessable on login untill you access and thus mount the device
[15:28] <xpistos> lightdm.conf has ubuntu set as the user-session
[15:28] <dr_willis> so thats why....
[15:29] <jrbergdorff> oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks Dr. Willis
[15:29] <dr_willis> mount the windows drive from fstab if you want it accessale befor the user logs in
[15:30] <jrbergdorff> got it, will do
[15:30] <Meris> jrbergdorff, how did your printing project fare? Did you complete it in time?
[15:31] <jrbergdorff> Meris, yes, it works wonderful now! Thanks for all of your help
[15:32] <Meris> jrbergdorff, np, glad to help.
[15:33] <hjupadhyay> Hi everybody !
[15:33] <Meris> hjupadhyay, Hi, how can we help you?
[15:34] <hjupadhyay> One fresh engineer joined my company, he never used ubunut, I need to get him on to ubuntu
[15:35] <theadmin> hjupadhyay: That's not really a support issue. I suggest using Kubuntu though, since it's interface highly resembles that of Windows.
[15:36] <hjupadhyay> No sir, I had been using ubuntu for last 3 years, problem is he has a nvidia card laptop which won't boot the live dvd / unetbootin usb.
[15:36] <Meris> hjupadhyay, lubuntu may be another choice, especially if your engineer has an older machine.
[15:36] <xpistos> ok let try this. How do I kill the xserver from a terminal?
[15:36] <Sokel> hjupadhyay: Who in their right mind would use ubuntu in a company/business environment? Sure you'd use server -maybe-, but that's a mistake in of itself. Especially with the interfaces it has, including KDE.
[15:36] <hjupadhyay> So I successfully booted from alternate cd, now the issue is he doesn't go past the grub, though I can log on to tty2-6
[15:36] <roasted> hello!
[15:36] <theadmin> xpistos: sudo service lightdm stop
[15:37] <roasted> I have a 32 bit package, but a 64 bit Ubuntu. Can you typically instal these things? There's not a 64 bit variant of what I'mafter.
[15:37] <uberamd> Sokel: ubuntu server is fine...
[15:37] <theadmin> roasted: Yes, you might be able to.
[15:37] <hjupadhyay> did that but says no lightdm, also says startx comman not found !!! I'm surprised too
[15:37] <Sokel> uberamd: Ubuntu server -is- fine. As a desktop for a company, it's not.
[15:37] <theadmin> roasted: Make sure "ia32-libs" is installed.
[15:37] <uberamd> Sokel: Can't argue that.
[15:37] <uberamd> Sokel: RHEL is much better for that
[15:37] <Meris> hjupadhyay, you know the brand and model of your engineer's computer?
[15:38] <theadmin> Sokel: How come? Where I work, we use Ubuntu almost exclusively on desktop machines. Works just fine.
[15:38] <roasted> theadmin: already installed....
[15:38] <Sokel> uberamd: Very much agreed. I use RHEL personally on my desktop at work. Very clean.
[15:38] <theadmin> roasted: Okay, then you should be able to install the package like normally
[15:38] <xpistos> This is a nightmare
[15:38] <xpistos> I can't believe there isn't a way to tell the system to require a password from the command line
[15:39] <soman> How to install opengl in Ubuntu 12.04 (for graphic developing)?
[15:39] <roasted> theadmin: can't - says i386 error or something. Unless I do it via terminal... that was through software center
[15:39] <Hwkiller> well... opengl is a spec, so you should follow the spec
[15:39] <theadmin> xpistos: You were told to edit lightdm.conf
[15:39] <Hwkiller> it's not a standard lib; each driver has their own opengl implementation
[15:39] <theadmin> roasted: Hm... I'm not too sure.
[15:39] <soman> SHould I install proprietar driver?
[15:40] <roasted> theadmin: trying terminal now
[15:41] <Supermanintights> Hi, I'm trying to look at how I can create an IRC server, using my websites hosting - so the server is in effect - irc.checkhookboxing.com but I've tried looking, however I'm not really sure on where to start still
[15:41] <Supermanintights> Does anyone have any experience with this?
[15:41] <Meris> Supermanintights, do you have root on that server?
[15:41] <roasted> theadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174040/       bummer.
[15:42] <xpistos> so I went into lightdm and told it to remove auto-login and rebooted
[15:42] <Kartagis> Meris: he doesn't have to have root access
[15:42] <xpistos> then It prompted me for the password and let me chang emy default dm
[15:42] <theadmin> roasted: That's not really how you install a deb package, use "sudo gdebi something.deb"
[15:42] <Meris> Kartagis, well if he wants to setup an IRC server, he will need root access, methinks.
[15:43] <Kartagis> Meris: no
[15:43] <roasted> theadmin: oh. :(
[15:43] <roasted> theadmin: it's sort of always worked for me. *shrug*
[15:43] <theadmin> roasted: (gdebi may not come by default, you should apt-get install it)
 Supermanintights, do you have root on that server? - I'm not sure, I have access to cpanel, ssh etc. this is the first website I've had so much of the terminology is still new to me
[15:44] <theadmin> roasted: It works... When you already satisfied all the dependencies of the package
[15:44] <theadmin> roasted: Otherwise use gdebi
[15:44] <roasted> theadmin: k, installing now
[15:44] <ikonia> Supermanintights: cpannel, is this a virtual server ?
[15:44] <roasted> theadmin: it failed but I need to do an apt-get -f install... 726MB worth, yet my root partition is down to 500MB free. Nice.
[15:44] <Meris> Supermanintights, if you have SSH access and your /home is allowed to run programs, you could try installing the IRC server in your homedir.
[15:44] <theadmin> roasted: Ouch :/
[15:45] <roasted> theadmin: yep, I thought 15GB was enough for root. No idea where the space is coming from. I can onlya llocate about 7GB in use.
[15:45] <padhu> please suggest me good ubuntu compactable Headphone with mic
[15:45] <Meris> padhu, any non-USB headphone should work just fine.
[15:46] <ikonia> padhu: any headphone and mic should work
[15:46] <Supermanintights> ikonia it's a medium, shared hosting plan from asmallorange.com //  Meris Ok, I'll have a go on there -- see if that works
[15:46] <ikonia> Supermanintights: ok, I'd advise you to slow down and work this through
[15:46] <ikonia> Supermanintights: you're going to have quite tight restrictions and access control on a shared platform.
[15:46] <patg1> came in here to find out which version of ubuntu I should update to I have 10.4 Also when I got it I was a very newbie and did not set it up so that my home directory is on a separate partition What should I do. I'm assuming 12.4 would be LTS and the best choice
[15:46] <padhu> Meris, ikonia : i am sorry. I need bluetooth headset
[15:47] <ikonia> Supermanintights: you need to talk to you hosting provider.
[15:47] <ikonia> padhu: again, any should work if they are proper bluetooth
[15:47] <Meris> padhu, does Bluetooth work for you in general?
[15:47] <gordonjcp> Supermanintights: most hosting providers won't let you run IRC servers except on dedicated machines, or VPSes
[15:48] <Supermanintights> ok ikonia - my only worry with talking to them was that I'm not using as much of my bandwidth/package yet as I could be - so I don't want them to try charge me more for it (obviously, I know that is their right and prerogative etc.)
[15:48] <roasted> theadmin: This package is uninstallable Cannot install 'gksu:i386' . WOOP!
[15:48] <padhu> Meris: Blue-tooth working fine for browsing my phone
[15:48] <theadmin> roasted: Eh... :/
[15:48] <Pelo> what was the name of that webcam app that you could record with ?
[15:48] <roasted> cheese?
[15:49] <Meris> padhu, in that case, just go ahead and add your Bluetooth-enabled headset as a device.
[15:49] <Pelo> tks
[15:49] <theadmin> Pelo: There are many around... wxcam? Cheese? Kamoso?
[15:49] <roasted> <3
[15:49] <ikonia> Supermanintights: if you are not using your bandwifth limit, then what's the problem ?
[15:49] <Pelo> theadmin, I need to record a video stream from a camcorder over usb , what do you recommend
[15:50] <ikonia> Supermanintights: just ask them if they will allow you to install an IRC server and what the restrictions/limitatoins are
[15:50] <ikonia> chances are they will say "no"
[15:50] <theadmin> Pelo: Cheese will do fine, wxcam works too but isn't as featureful
[15:50] <padhu> Meris: I wish to buy good one
[15:50] <Supermanintights> I'll ask them - if they say no, I'll just suggest I change providers to one who can offer me the services I require - thanks for the advice :)
[15:51] <ikonia> Supermanintights: do you actually need an IRC server ?
[15:51] <ikonia> Supermanintights: most IRC network will allow you to create a channel
[15:51] <Meris> padhu, that does not depend on your OS choice if it has good Bluetooth compatibility
[15:51] <Supermanintights> ikonia - I'm a big fan of control, I don't see it being too big an issue, and I would like the opportunity to create several different channels/run them etc.
[15:52] <padhu> Meris: Oh, Then I will try and post the result. Thanks...
[15:52] <Supermanintights> so long as the cost isn't stupid I don't mind the extra effort in looking into setting it all up
[15:52] <ikonia> Supermanintights: you can run channels on most IRC networks, if you ask in #freenode they will explain how you setup and manage your own channels
[15:52] <Meris> padhu, for hardware advice, you could join #hardware instead.
[15:53] <padhu> Meris: Okey,
[15:53] <ikonia> Supermanintights: a.) your provider won't allow it (probably) as few will, because of the security issues b.) you are opening your system up for exploit c.) you are setting up resources on your machine that you don't "need" as existing irc networks will allow you to run and control your own channels
[15:54] <Dreadtower> Hello again (sigh) :))
[15:54] <Dreadtower> OK
[15:54] <Dreadtower> So VirtualBox suns nicely and I can install XP into it - great!
[15:54] <Supermanintights> hmm, you're probably right - it is somewhat of a vanity thing.  I just liked the idea of people connecting to my server
[15:54] <Supermanintights> I'll think it through more
[15:55] <Dreadtower> Can I connect my XP to the internet directly?
[15:55] <uberamd> Dreadtower: Virtualbox is great software, runs XP perfectly
[15:55] <phax> Hi, I am on Ubuntu 10.0.4 and use gdm->gnome. However when I use fluxbox to login, the network configuration/wireless adapter settings do not take effect. I would like to configure the network service to start even if I am not logged in, or logged into the a console session. How do I go about doing that?
[15:55] <uberamd> Dreadtower: You can set the networking to Bridged which will allow other devices to see your VM
[15:55] <Dreadtower> OK
[15:55] <ikonia> phax: use the interfaces file AND you need to disable gnome network manager
[15:55] <Ileden> I just installed xubuntu on my desktop computer. Desktop performance is very, very slow. My video adapter is: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV 630 XT AGP [Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP] - I did try the proprietary FGLRX driver but it doesn't really help. Is this just incompatible with linux or is there something I can try?
[15:56] <uberamd> Dreadtower: By default the networking will be set as NAT and that means that other systems on your network won't be able to see it. Be sure to bridge it.
[15:56] <uberamd> Dreadtower: In the network settings
[15:56] <Dreadtower> Great: set to bridged
[15:57] <phax> ikonia: I do not have any security on the wireless network, would just putting in the wireless-mode managed, wireless-essid .... be sufficient ? How do I disable the gnome network manager?
[15:57] <Dreadtower> No I can just installl XP into my VM and it will be able to see out?
[15:57] <Dreadtower> s/No/Now/
[15:57] <phax> ikonia: Do I need configure a difference service to startup to process the network/interfaces file ?
[15:57] <uberamd> Dreadtower: Yes, set it to bridged and in XP check the network IP
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Dreadtower  I have XP in virtualbox, works fine
[15:57] <ikonia> phax: if you visit https://help.ubuntu.com there is a guide on setting up networking, have a read through and let me know if you have any questions.
[15:57] <phax> ikonia: cheers!
[15:58] <uberamd> Dreadtower: you should get an IP like 192.168.1.X if its on a home-router
[15:58] <Dreadtower> Yeah
[15:58] <Dreadtower> Set it to that
[15:58] <uberamd> Dreadtower: then if it has an IP like that you should be able to ping it from another device
[15:58] <Dreadtower> Thx uberamd
[15:58] <uberamd> Dreadtower: cheers
[15:58] <cherfas> i have a problem with playing mutimedia , in flash and also when playing stored music from my hard disk. os: ubuntu 12.04.01 64bit. processor: quad core cpu 2500k i5. graphics card: geforce 560i. 8GB ram. have any ideas why this might happend?
[15:59] <islandmonkey> cherfas: What sort of problem?
[15:59] <cherfas> every few minutes the it lags for a second or so
[16:00] <cherfas> also i noticed that one of my cpus peaks every time it happens
[16:01] <cherfas> any ideas?
[16:01] <islandmonkey> cherfas: For the internal music issue, try another music player, for flash - well, how fast is your internet connection.
[16:02] <islandmonkey> ?
[16:02] <cherfas> 10Mb
[16:02] <cherfas> i think that the problem connected to both, because when i play them both is lags toghther
[16:02] <MASTERPIECE> i  want to play pes 2012   some to write me in  the personal how
[16:02] <MASTERPIECE> please
[16:03] <cherfas> also i tried playing with vlc, it happens is there too
[16:03] <islandmonkey> cherfas: Check your sound card?
[16:03] <MASTERPIECE> some to help me ?
[16:03] <cherfas> in windows there is no problem
[16:03] <theadmin> MASTERPIECE: Please be patient.
[16:03] <cherfas> so it's not the hardware
[16:04] <cherfas> maybe the driver?
[16:04] <cherfas> how can i check the driver?
[16:04] <islandmonkey> MASTERPIECE: OK - I get the first part of what you are saying but not the second part
[16:05] <technodenbow> Mellow greetings. I formally convey my presence.
[16:05] <k1l_> MASTERPIECE: use the OS the game is build for. thing to try is wine, look in the appdb on the wine homepage
[16:06] <islandmonkey> cherfas: Do lscpi - find your sound card
[16:06] <islandmonkey> And post it here
[16:06] <cherfas> can't find the command
 did everything as described but it is not
[16:07] <islandmonkey> What lspci comes up with nothing?
[16:07] <cherfas> No command 'lscpi' found, did you mean:
[16:07] <cherfas>  Command 'lscpu' from package 'util-linux' (main)
[16:07] <cherfas>  Command 'lscp' from package 'nilfs-tools' (universe)
[16:07] <cherfas>  Command 'lspci' from package 'pciutils' (main)
[16:07] <cherfas> lscpi: command not found
[16:07] <FloodBot1> cherfas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <k1l_> MASTERPIECE: look in the database. there are workarounds and problems mentioned
[16:07] <MASTERPIECE> it seems that I can not handle
[16:07] <cherfas> ok sorry
[16:08] <theadmin> cherfas: It's "lspci"
[16:08] <islandmonkey> cherfas: Typo - it's lspci :0
[16:08] <islandmonkey> :)
[16:08] <cherfas> yeah got it
[16:08] <islandmonkey> Wrong smiley
[16:08] <islandmonkey> Don't worry, I do that sometimes :)
[16:08] <cherfas> Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 High Definition Audio Controller\
[16:08] <cherfas> USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05)
[16:08] <Slayz> Hello, community. Linux is a glorious power that brought mankind an important part of our freedom. But the fight must go on! Thats why I am creating the revolution of linux! I promise you the next step of evolution. The FINAL POWER for your linux system! Together we will use it to create a better world! Now come and cheer me up!
[16:09] <MASTERPIECE> ki<k1l_> where databases
[16:09] <cherfas> Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05).... that on you need i guess
[16:09] <k1l_> !appdb | MasterOfDisaster
[16:09] <k1l_> argh, MASTERPIECE ^
[16:09] <islandmonkey> Slayz: Революция начинается!
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[16:10] <Slayz> islandmonkey, yes that is the soldier spirit!
[16:11] <theadmin> !ot
[16:11] <islandmonkey> MonkeyDust: It was a joke lol, I don't even speak Russian.
[16:11] <islandmonkey> I used Google Translate
[16:11] <cherfas> islandmonkey: any ideas?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  i guess that first word means 'revolution'
[16:12] <islandmonkey> cherfas: Hmm, try using the intel one - don't know how to do this in Ubuntu - but when I used openSUSE with KDE you switch sound drivers
[16:13] <islandmonkey> Try downloading the KDE control panel for sound
[16:13] <silverarrow> has anyone updatet do firefox 15?
[16:13] <islandmonkey> And do it there
[16:13] <cherfas> i think that i use the intel one.
[16:13] <MASTERPIECE> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:13] <silverarrow> I have lost sound on html5 in firefox after the update
[16:13] <MASTERPIECE> help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:13] <islandmonkey> cherfas: The NVIDIA one is used by default
[16:13] <islandmonkey> So you need to change
[16:13] <islandmonkey> it
[16:13] <silverarrow> put a cork in it MASTERPIECE
[16:14] <meowmix> hello i am trying to mount ext3 ubuntu harddrive but it says i must specificy the file style
[16:14] <meowmix> how 2
[16:14] <meowmix> how 2 specify
[16:14] <meowmix> ext3?
[16:14] <FloodBot1> meowmix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> silverarrow  FF 15 here
[16:14] <theadmin> meowmix: Please speak English and don't use Enter so much.
[16:14] <cherfas> islandmonkey: built-in audio is used by default
[16:14] <jpds> meowmix: mount -t ext3 ...
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> +
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> -+
[16:14] <theadmin> meowmix: sudo mount.ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[16:14] <MASTERPIECE> :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((99
[16:14] <cherfas> the geforce is the sound of the hdmi-out is the graphics card, and i'm not using it
[16:15] <islandmonkey> MASTERPIECE: There might be 1718 people here but they all don't play Pro Evo Soccer
[16:15] <cherfas> islandmonkey: how do you know that the nvidia is used by default?
[16:15] <hfic-a> /server
[16:15] <hfic-a> /server irishe.dyndns.org
[16:15] <silverarrow> MonkeyDust: have you tested a html5 video? they play but sound is only a hizz
[16:15] <MASTERPIECE> some be  help me
[16:15] <MASTERPIECE> :D
[16:16] <islandmonkey> cherfas: Because my computers' got a GT 540M with a GF108
[16:16] <hfic-a> /connect
[16:16] <hfic-a> \\connect
[16:16] <hfic-a> \connect
[16:16] <theadmin> hfic-a: Stop this.
[16:16] <meowmix> ok
[16:16] <silverarrow> MASTERPIECE: with what then?
[16:16] <meowmix> when i try to mount ext3 it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[16:17] <meowmix> how can I check the disc for status?
[16:17] <meowmix> i am sure it is ext3
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> silverarrow  youtube video plays/sounds normal
[16:18] <meowmix> when i fdisk -l /dev/sdb does not list /dev/sdb1, ect
[16:18] <meowmix> how can I check this disc?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> meowmix  it's sudo fdisk -l
[16:18] <meowmix> hello
[16:18] <meowmix> I have hard drive
[16:18] <meowmix> not respodning
[16:18] <meowmix> how to check for errors
[16:18] <meowmix> ?
[16:18] <FloodBot1> meowmix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <boutell> I have a daemon I'm running with upstart. It requires that other things that still run from init.d are launched first and fails if they are not. Are there upstart events for that? How about an upstart event that at least says "all the init.d stuff for this runlevel is done"?
[16:19] <theadmin> meowmix: Why are you mounting "/dev/sdb"? That's a drive, not a partition.
[16:19] <meowmix> theadmin: how do i list the partitions?
[16:19] <cherfas> islandmonkey: how do i install the kde sound manager? software center or through terminal?
[16:19] <silverarrow> MonkeyDust: is it because I am on powerpc then?
[16:19] <silverarrow> it worked fine all way up to 14.10
[16:19] <silverarrow> ?
[16:19] <theadmin> meowmix: sudo fdisk -l
[16:19] <boutell> right now I have:
[16:19] <boutell> start on startup
[16:19] <boutell> stop on shutdown
[16:19] <uberamd> meowmix: sudo fdisk /l
[16:19] <uberamd> meowmix: sudo fdisk -l
[16:19] <theadmin> cherfas: The name is "kmix".
[16:19] <islandmonkey> cherfas: Search for it in the software centre.
[16:19] <meowmix> uberamd: theadmin no partions are being shown
[16:19] <meowmix> i think the drive has errors
[16:19] <meowmix> how can I check?
[16:19] <cherfas> thanks
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> silverarrow  14.10? you mistyped something :) i didnt know you're on a ppc
[16:20] <islandmonkey> !info kmix
[16:20] <cefege123> how do I configure /etc/hosts  to work with my Namecheap domain? I have a blog on /srv/website
[16:20] <theadmin> meowmix: You can't check the "drive" for errors, only a specific partition, i.e. filesystem.
[16:20] <meowmix> upon "sudo fdisk -l" my "/dev/sdb" returns no partions yet I am sure I have installed linux on this drive for a university machine
[16:21] <meowmix> how can I recover the data off this malfuntioning drive?
[16:21] <uberamd> meowmix: it may be worth firing up a Gparted live CD
[16:21] <silverarrow> MonkeyDust: sorry, update from 14.01 to 15
[16:21] <silverarrow> I just did it a short while ago
[16:21] <meowmix> uberamd: what is that?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> silverarrow  14.01 in what distro?
[16:22] <uberamd> meowmix: Gparted is a utility used to modify/view partitions; http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> silverarrow  the current stable ubuntu is 12.04
[16:22] <hfic> Question : I have a usb drive with 2 different partitions. How can I get this to be a single entity?
[16:22] <meowmix> uberamd: thanks just what I was looking for
[16:22] <uberamd> hfic: you can use Gparted to repartition the drive
[16:22] <silverarrow> MonkeyDust:  lubuntu 12.04
[16:22] <silverarrow> MonkeyDust: lubuntu room is dormatory today
[16:23] <hfic> uberamd, thanks mate
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> silverarrow  my mistaken, of course you mean FF 14-15
[16:24] <aaas> if I login with ssh to a server which doesn't have any users logged in the sound system doesn't start.... how can I start the sound system from the command line?
[16:24] <voldyman> how can i start a X windows session on tty1?? like do startx on tty1 to get two working sessions?
[16:24] <bondj> hello
[16:24] <bondj> which tools are nice to create images of game dvds?
[16:24] <islandmonkey> voldyman: X server sessions are on tty7 always
[16:24] <islandmonkey> Or tty6
[16:24] <bipul> join #ubuntu-in
[16:25] <theadmin> voldyman: You can't have two X servers running... If you want multisessionism, use a display manager (gdm, lightdm, kdm)
[16:25] <voldyman> islandmonkey, can i start it on tty1
[16:25] <uberamd> hfic: <3
[16:25] <islandmonkey> voldyman: You can, but it'll be in tty7
[16:25] <silverarrow> MonkeyDust: yes I just did the updates that came today, and firefox lost all sound
[16:26] <voldyman> i just want to be running two sets of UI's running so i could run different apps on both
[16:27] <islandmonkey> voldayman: What is the app?
[16:27] <islandmonkey> voldyman: What is the app?
[16:27] <voldyman> islandmonkey, normal apps like gedit,etc.
[16:28] <islandmonkey> voldyman: Can't you use tabs in gedit?
[16:28] <voldyman> islandmonkey, thats the point. i want it to appear as if two separate sessions are running.
[16:30] <islandmonkey> voldyman: With gedit you can drag the tab out the window and it will turn into another window.
[16:31] <shadaloo> hi my GRUB is not displaying on startup
[16:31] <MASTERPIECE> some to know how to play pes 2012  on l ubuntu
[16:31] <black_13> is it possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows 7 on a single disk without using wubi?
[16:31] <shadaloo> where can I turn on verbose?
[16:31] <PatrickC> anyone have any experience installing ubuntu on a Mac?
[16:31] <black_13> or dual boot with two disk?
[16:32] <voldyman> islandmonkey, dont take this the wrong way but i know i can have two windows or tabs but this is something different
[16:32] <ja-s> Upstart/Cups problem:  I did `sudo apt-get install cups' and got:
[16:32] <ja-s> ...
[16:32] <shadaloo> where is my GRUB file stored?
[16:32] <ja-s> Setting up cups (1.5.3-0ubuntu4) ...
[16:32] <ja-s> initctl: Unknown job: cups
[16:32] <shadaloo> where is my GRUB file stored?
[16:32] <ja-s> Why is cups an unknown job?
[16:33] <ja-s> $ sudo status cups
[16:33] <ja-s> status: Unknown job: cups
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> !paste > ja-s
[16:33] <ja-s> (BTW, this is on precise)
[16:34] <islandmonkey> voldyman: It isn't possible to have 2 X server session on 1 screen
[16:34] <uberamd> shadaloo: which aspect of grub? there is /boot/grub/
[16:34] <auska> Hi! I fond the following line on my /var/log/auth.log file:  "Successful su for proxy by root" and "+ ??? root:proxy" Does anyone knows what they mean?
[16:34] <shadaloo> uberamd:
[16:34] <islandmonkey> ja-s: Try sudo service cups start
[16:35] <shadaloo> that's where i am but there is like 200 files
[16:35] <uberamd> shadaloo: there is also /etc/grub.d/
[16:35] <voldyman> islandmonkey, i found something called xephyr while googling. can you tell me what it is?
[16:35] <uberamd> shadaloo: what are you trying to do?
[16:35] <shadaloo> uberamd: I just want to see GRUB on startup
[16:35] <islandmonkey> !info xephyr
[16:35] <shadaloo> right now I believe verbose=silent
[16:35] <islandmonkey> Hmm
[16:35] <opalepatrick> Whats a good tool to monitor incoming/outgoing traffic with ip's on 12.04? Just want to be sure that I am not sending dodgy stuff however unlikely that may be
[16:35] <shadaloo> i need splash=verbose
[16:36] <islandmonkey> voldyman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xephyr
[16:37] <islandmonkey> voldyman: It appears to allow an X session to run in an X session
[16:37] <voldyman> islandmonkey, i can't get it to work. it just shows a blank black window
[16:38] <islandmonkey> voldyman: Hmm, can't help you there. Never used it
[16:38] <voldyman> oh..:-(
[16:39] <islandmonkey> Sorry
[16:39] <voldyman> anyone who has use Xephyr????
[16:42] <zila> hi
[16:42] <zila> how can i search all /boot/grub/ files for "silent"
[16:43] <zila> my GRUB menu is not showing up
[16:43] <zila> and I would perfer that it did
[16:43] <zila> to be honest
[16:44] <theadmin> zila: You hold Shift after BIOS post for the GRUB menu to appear
[16:44] <ja-s> anyone in here know upstart?
[16:44] <zila> theadmin: that's way easier
[16:44] <zila> i will try that
[16:45] <BluesKaj> zila, you may have grub timeout set to "0" , so grub automatically boots into the first kernal
[16:45] <BluesKaj> err kernel
[16:45] <islandmonkey> ja-s: I answered your question.
[16:46] <islandmonkey> Well I hope I did
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ZinovaS, you can set it in /etc/defaullt/grub to a larger number of seconds
[16:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> hello.... where is ubuntu arabic font?!!!
[16:50] <ja-s> or cups?
[16:50] <Safa_[A_boy]> hello.... where is ubuntu arabic font?!!!
[16:51] <Dreadtower> VirtualBox is running really nicely uberamd
[16:51] <uberamd> Dreadtower: glad to hear it!
[16:52] <Dreadtower> I just have to decide whether or not to 'activate' XP from my OEM disc (bought specifically to run virtually)
[16:52] <Dreadtower> I guess it's a one-time activation
[16:52] <kapz> I have safely removed/unmounted my laptop's built in SD card drive...now if I want to remount it, how do I do it without rebooting my system?
[16:52] <Safa_[A_boy]> sorry but.... where is ubuntu arabic font?!!!
[16:53] <Dreadtower> The XP disc is a 'System-Builder OEM' one
[16:57] <Safa_[A_boy]> sorry but.... where is ubuntu arabic font?!!!
[16:57] <islandmonkey> !repeat | Safa_[A_boy]
[17:00] <Safa_[A_boy]> how much time should I wait?!
[17:00] <Safa_[A_boy]> to get the answer
[17:00] <Safa_[A_boy]> ?
[17:00] <veric> Hi need help if anyone has time i have Ubuntu12.04 and can not get web vids to play. I do have restricted installed with flash and Java I did the forums and searched google
[17:01] <Meris> Safa_[A_boy], Many default fonts already have support for Arabic, mostly you don't need to install additional fonts
[17:01] <bkc_> veric: what webbroser do you use?
[17:01] <veric> ff
[17:02] <bkc_> veric: afaik there is an extension for ff to use flash, flashplayer-nonfree iirc
[17:02] <Safa_[A_boy]> the Arabic characters in "DejaVu Sans" font is bad!
[17:02] <Safa_[A_boy]> It's not good if you want to print a book!
[17:02] <veric> i tried the sudo for that and had no luck
[17:03] <PatrickC> Safa_[A_boy], and you think they can change that In here?
[17:03] <bkc_> Safa_[A_boy]: then use another font? :/
[17:03] <islandmonkey> Safa_[A_boy]: You got someone answering your question now - good, but you need to remember you that this is a channel of volunteers. Please reflect your attitude with this
[17:03] <Safa_[A_boy]> I want to see that font :-)
[17:04] <Meris> Safa_[A_boy], try Liberation instead, it's the official font of Fedora
[17:04] <aaas> my sound system starts up when a user logs in at a physical terminal,  how can i make the sound system start over a remote ssh session?
[17:04] <Safa_[A_boy]> Ok
[17:04] <Safa_[A_boy]> :)
[17:04] <bkc_> veric: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20package%20firefox%20flash gives http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash , http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/flashplugin-nonfree and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[17:04] <bkc_> veric: also, try rebooting if you havn't already :)
[17:04] <luist> hey guys…. i have a broken virtual machine with ubuntu which i cant access the mysql to backup its content… im getting this: http://pastie.org/4611277  is there another way to backup the mysql content?
[17:05] <islandmonkey> Safa_[A_boy]: At least with volunteers, you don't get a stupid robotic answer
[17:05] <bkc_> luist: how broken?
[17:05] <luist> bkc_: im not sure, but it seems to be read-only
[17:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> :)
[17:05] <veric> i had rebooted should i uninstall what i have or just add flash free?
[17:06] <Meris> Is there a good channel which can help me with Apple Bootcamp installation issues (#apple does not provide any help). I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 next to my Windows. I have read the docs, but I still run into a snag.
[17:06] <bkc_> veric: afaik, there is no flash-free :/
[17:06] <luist> bkc_: well is there any tool to diagnose the problems on the machine?
[17:06] <bkc_> veric: if it doesn't work, uninstall it :)
[17:06] <Meris> veric, you can try gnash, but only if you are a masochist.
[17:07] <bkc_> Meris: don't even recommend that broken peice of code >.<
[17:07] <Meris> bkc_, that's why added the masochist thing ;-)
[17:07] <FlowRiser> Meris: there is a windows installer, quite simple to use
[17:07] <veric> ment non free
[17:07] <bipul> How to open .ps file in ubuntu 12.04
[17:08] <bkc_> luist: It tells you wants wrong, so no need to diagnose :) I'm assuming you're running a 64bit kernel?
[17:08] <bkc_> veric: yes, install the nonfree :)
[17:08] <luist> bkc_: no idea? :)
[17:08] <Meris> FlomRiser, true, yes, you could indeed use a Windows Firefox from within a Wine bottle and add Adobe Flash to it. It *is* possible...
[17:09] <WarOfTheNerd> bipul, you should be able to open it with evince
[17:09] <WarOfTheNerd> FlowRiser, There's an easy way to install Flash
[17:09] <WarOfTheNerd> FlowRiser, it's a simple .so you copy to your plugins directory, that's the same procedure as original Flash had for Windows
[17:10] <WarOfTheNerd> the installer was made for idiots
[17:10] <bkc_> luist: "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: invalid ELF header" <-- this means that the lib it's trying to load is either broken, or for a different architecture :)
[17:10] <Bahaman> Hi, im trying to install eclipse and whenever i try to run it i get an error saying I should check a certain file however i've no idea how to view the log file. Im fairly new to ubuntu/linux
[17:10] <FlowRiser> I see, thanks :D
[17:10] <Bahaman> The error is as follows An error has occurred. See the log file/home/baha/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1346260109456.log.
[17:10] <WarOfTheNerd> Bahaman, gedit /home/baha/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1346260109456.log
[17:11] <WarOfTheNerd> Bahaman, type that in a terminal =]
[17:11] <Bahaman> Okay thank you, ill give it a go
[17:11] <bkc_> luist: do this: which mysql <-- gets the filepath of mysql-app, take the filepath and do: file <filepath> and post the result :)
[17:11] <bkc_> luist: also ldd <filepath> and post that to :)
[17:11] <WarOfTheNerd> FlowRiser, might be worthwhile to install Google Chrome by the way, as Flash is being discontinued for other browsers
[17:12] <Linger> Hi where's the windows chen?
[17:12] <WarOfTheNerd> that rule affects all platforms that aren't Windows (OS X is also ditching Flash)
[17:12] <FlowRiser> WarOfTheNerd, why is flash discontinued for the other browsers ? O.o
[17:12] <WarOfTheNerd> FlowRiser, because Adobe don't want to maintain it anymore other than for security fixes, Google are taking over maintenance for it for their own browser only
[17:13] <bkc_> luist: also, uname -m :)
[17:13] <FlowRiser> WarOfTheNerd, google wants it just for their youtube :)
[17:13] <WarOfTheNerd> so all new features for Linux are exclusively for Google Chrome. Wonderful eh?
[17:13] <FlowRiser> WarOfTheNerd, but even that supports html5
[17:13] <WarOfTheNerd> Adobe are moving towards HTML5 compatibility wrappers and making a framework for HTML5 now
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> ot
[17:14] <PatrickC> anyone have experience installing ubuntu on OS X?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[17:14] <Meris> FlowRiser, true, except the clips having ads in them
[17:14] <PatrickC> or on a Mac i should say
[17:14] <adfoivjoiu> irc://irc.alphairc.com/hidd3n-xdcc
[17:14] <aaas> is there anyway to start alsa over ssh?
[17:15] <bkc_> aaas: afaik not alsa, but pulseaudio has network-support :)
[17:15] <WarOfTheNerd> aaas, no need, because it's a kernel component
[17:16] <WarOfTheNerd> aaas, if you're talking about networking sound to be forwarded to a client PC, you can use pulseaudio or nas
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: try virtualbox if you want to install it on OS X
[17:16] <aaas> WarOfTheNerd bkc_ so here's the problem, I log into a computer and sound works,  but I want to use mplayer but the sound system doesn't start if I'm sshing into the computer, all i want to do is run the scripts that start the sound system I don't need any forwarding of sound I don't even need to listen to the sound
[17:17] <WarOfTheNerd> aaas, that's because of PulseAudio, if you remove PulseAudio and add your user to the 'audio' group you can then control sound
[17:18] <bkc_> aaas: If you only want music, I'd suggest moc or another terminal-based musicplayer :)
[17:18] <WarOfTheNerd> PulseAudio will only play sound for the logged in user on the local terminal
[17:18] <Bahaman> When installing eclipse, would I need to install anything else? I mean, besides the following line: sudo apt-get install eclipse ?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: if you connect with the -X option, you can run GUI media playing apps
[17:18] <bkc_> Bahaman: eclipse-jdt afaik?
[17:18] <aaas> WarOfTheNerd so i can run alsamixer if i remove pulseaudio?
[17:18] <WarOfTheNerd> aaas, yes if you do that and add your user to the audio group
[17:19] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: yes, but as far as I can tell, he wants the music playing on the server?
[17:19] <aaas> bkc_ i dont need any sound or music, i just need the sound to startup
[17:19] <aaas> WarOfTheNerd ok thanks
[17:19] <aaas> I just want the sound to startup on the server
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: yes the sound will play on the server, the only thing shown on the client is the GUI
[17:19] <bkc_> aaas: no need to remove pulseaudio... just start alsamixer :/
[17:19] <aaas> without a user loggin in
[17:19] <aaas> alsamixer doesnt work
[17:19] <Bahaman> bkc_: Im having an odd error with some SWT library missing or something, does it sound familiar?
[17:19] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: indeed... but he only wants sound :/
[17:19] <aaas> because the sound scripts (whatever they are) aren't starting
[17:19] <WarOfTheNerd> ActionParsnip, it won't.  PulseAudio only plays for the local user on the locally displayed terminal
[17:20] <bkc_> Bahaman: only used eclipse/java once and never again, so can't really help you :(
[17:20] <WarOfTheNerd> ActionParsnip, if you ssh in it'll block sound because it's not the local user, it's by design, so it needs to be removed to work XD
[17:20] <Bahaman> Okay
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> WarOfTheNerd: ive started spotify via ssh -X and the sound comes out of te server with zero addition settings
[17:20] <WarOfTheNerd> ActionParsnip, is that native Linux or Wine?  on Wine it doesn't use PA by default
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> WarOfTheNerd: the only thing on the server is the graphical UI, all the x server is, is display, keyboard and mouse, not soud
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> WarOfTheNerd: native, wine also did the same but didn't run as smooth
[17:21] <aaas> if a user logs in everything is fine, because the sound system is started
[17:21] <aaas> but if no one logs in nothing starts
[17:21] <aaas> *logs in at the physical terminal*
[17:21] <WarOfTheNerd> aaas, yeah, that's PulseAudio doing it then
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> aaas: isn't the pulse audio service started as a service
[17:22] <r0tha> i believe it is started within the desktop only \
[17:22] <aaas> ActionParsnip no you have to run it if you want it and that still doesn't fix the problem because i cant run alsamixer
[17:22] <r0tha> *i.e unity........i had the same issue when i was trolling my neighbor
[17:23] <r0tha> i.e i'd be on campus and he would send in a noise complaint BUT if i didn't log in w/ UI it wouldn't work
[17:23] <aaas> will start pulsaudio: /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
[17:23] <adie__> is the restricted driver provided by ubuntu going to be the same as I can download from radeon?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> aaas: try adding the command to start it in /etc/rc.local   may help
[17:23] <WarOfTheNerd> adie__, it comes from ATI yes
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> aaas: add it above the exit 0 line...
[17:24] <adie__> should I use this driver, or no proprietary driver at all?
[17:24] <WarOfTheNerd> adie__, the post-install updates are the latest drivers usually and the normal version is the version shipped and tested for release
[17:24] <aaas> ActionParsnip but starting pulseaudio isnt sufficient, there's one more step..if i run this i still cant run alsamixer
[17:24] <WarOfTheNerd> adie__, ideally use proprietary drivers if you want the best 3D support
[17:24] <WarOfTheNerd> adie__, if you're not playing games or the like, free drivers are best though
[17:25] <adie__> okay ^_^
[17:25] <csanyipal> Hi,
[17:25] <csanyipal> is there a way to setup my mice to uses gpm?
[17:26] <WarOfTheNerd> adie__, I use proprietary NVIDIA on my desktop and proprietary ATI for my laptop, both work nicely
[17:26] <En-> one stupid question if i do changes during live cd session and then i restart mi pc. should i loose the changes_
[17:26] <En-> ?
[17:26] <WarOfTheNerd> adie__, I'm a Free Software supporter, but what works best is what works best.  Remember that Free Software will win out eventually regardless of which drivers you choose :)
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> En-: without persistence, yes
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> En-: as its a CD, you won't have that so changes will not stick
[17:27] <WarOfTheNerd> En-, LiveCDs are read-only, changes to the CD are lost when you shut down.
[17:27] <En-> ActionParsnip:  but if a choose to install everything should stay right_
[17:28] <En-> ?
[17:28] <WarOfTheNerd> En-, when you install to the hard disk, things stick =]
[17:29] <WarOfTheNerd> En-, a hard disk install runs just like how any other OS runs, changes are permanent and you can make as many users as you like and such
[17:29] <En-> another question.. my screen resolution is too low.. this might be cuz im a running the live session
[17:29] <WarOfTheNerd> En-, what graphics card?
[17:29] <En-> Radeon HD 6310
[17:30] <WarOfTheNerd> En-, the proper drivers aren't installed on the LiveCD, once you've installed to the hard disk, you need to follow the prompt for restricted drivers
[17:30] <En-> ok thanks
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> En-: after an install you will be using your HDD so changes will stay
[17:31] <luist> can anyone help me with this: http://pastie.org/4611531
[17:31] <WarOfTheNerd> En-, I have both an AMD (ATI) graphics card on my laptop, and an NVIDIA one on my desktop and both have a proper resolution after installing to the hard disk.  I also play games on both :D
[17:31] <soman> How to disable and enable X server Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:31] <HelpMePlease> Hello all, I'm having some trouble dual booting Ubuntu with Windows and was wondering if you all could give me a hand.If this is the incorrect channel to ask for help, or you'd rather PM me, I'm ok with either.
[17:32] <WarOfTheNerd> HelpMePlease, you're in the right place
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> luist: what is the output of:  file /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6; file /usr/bin/mysql; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[17:33] <john_nash> i changed my password for superuser root (which is hashed) . can i get this change undone
[17:33] <WarOfTheNerd> HelpMePlease, describe the issues you're having with setting up the dual boot! :)
[17:33] <WarOfTheNerd> john_nash, do you still have the ability to sudo?
[17:33] <WarOfTheNerd> if so:  sudo -i
[17:33] <HelpMePlease> Excellent. Well, let me explain what my situation is. I just bought a Toshiba laptop (http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetland.to?poid=2000037648), and have dual-booted in the past without a problem. However, with this laptop, I have been having a lot of problems with Ubuntu crashing simply while installing from the live CD, and then afterwards during the user session.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> john_nash: boot to root recovery mode and you can set any password
[17:33] <WarOfTheNerd> then do passwd -d root && passwd -l root
[17:33] <_Marcus> How do I make it so that a group can read and write to a folder and it's contents? I need the www-data to write there. I already have the group that owns the file to www-data, and the permissions are at 775, but it's not working.
[17:34] <luist> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/4611572
[17:34] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, have you checked the user is associated with the group?
[17:34] <HelpMePlease> I was wondering if my problems may be due to proprietary drivers, or whether or not I should have installed the AMD64 version.
[17:34] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: www-data is in the www-data group.
[17:34] <arosen> Hi, I just installed dhcp3-server but I don't have /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server. Any ideas?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> luist: I'd ask in #mysql
[17:35] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, are we talking about Apache not being able to write?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> arosen: use:   sudo service   then press TAB a few times
[17:35] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: Yes. I'm using PHP's mkdir().
[17:36] <arosen> ActionParsnip: that doesn't tab complete services just files
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, check /etc/group and /etc/gshadow
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> arosen: you don't press ENTER after the word service
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, www-data is not in the group by default despite what Apache says
[17:36] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: This is a strange problem because I can read and write in another PHP script, but mkdir wont allow me to.
[17:36] <KornKage> any1 here use ubuntu 12.04 and has qmake?
[17:37] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, also you may need to turn off PHP safe_mode
[17:37] <arosen> ActionParsnip:  i'm not.
[17:37] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: Okay. So is this a PHP problem? Not Ubuntu-related?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> arosen: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[17:37] <HelpMePlease> I understand this is a very busy room so I am posting an image to help those who would like to help me.
[17:37] <HelpMePlease> http://i.imgur.com/HNwpg.png
[17:37] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, PHP safe_mode won't let you write unless you own the files IIRC
[17:37] <XL-Seti> I refused to upgrade from 11.04 :D
[17:37] <arosen> ActionParsnip: precise
[17:37] <luist> ActionParsnip: my whole system seems to be broken… i cant even use apt-get :(
[17:38] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, that may explain why mkdir() is failing
[17:38] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: Oh. Okay. I'll try that. Thanks :)
[17:38] <WarOfTheNerd> luist, you need to replace that corrupt lib
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> XL-Seti: it will die in 3 months and you will get nzero updates and zero support here. The OS will continue to run
[17:38] <gigihot> how to highlight the text in xchat and copy the highlighted texts ?
[17:38] <genii-around> arosen: It would probably be /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server ... But it also has an Upstart entry as well in /etc/init
[17:38] <luist> WarOfTheNerd: what about this: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.10-6.so.4.8: invalid ELF header
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> luist: what happens when you run:  sudo apt-get update
[17:39] <padhu> HelpMePlease: What happened? are you read log messages?
[17:39] <arosen> genii-around:  thanks you are right!
[17:39] <luist> ActionParsnip: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.10-6.so.4.8: invalid ELF header
[17:39] <WarOfTheNerd> luist, have you extensively customised that install?  and do you have a separate /home?
[17:39] <padhu> luist: which version you have?
[17:40] <luist> padhu: seems to be 10.10
[17:40] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: Safemode was already off.
[17:40] <WarOfTheNerd> luist, if you haven't customised too much and you have separate /home, it may be easier to reinstall
[17:40] <luist> WarOfTheNerd: not customized.. seems that this VM has some problem
[17:40] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, check if 777 works
[17:40] <luist> WarOfTheNerd: actually i just need to access/backup the database
[17:40] <HelpMePlease> padhu, I have not read the logs, there are too many errors. If that would help, I could post each individual problem, but I believe it is a large problem *installation from live CD, logging in, updating drivers, updating anything- they all crash.)
[17:40] <luist> WarOfTheNerd: the new machine is installed
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> luist: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[17:42] <arosen> genii-around: do i configure the address space in /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server?
[17:42] <luist> ActionParsnip: lucid
[17:42] <padhu> HelpMePlease: is your laptop having Graphics card?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> luist: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1781279
[17:43] <flybugs> hi guys
[17:43] <HelpMePlease> padhu, yes- it has AMD Radeon™ HD 7520G integrated graphics.
[17:43] <padhu> HelpMePlease: Are you tried live CD without installation? Download new image from ubuntu website and burn it and try once again
[17:43] <genii-around> arosen: I believe so. It's been a while since I used it now.
[17:44] <HelpMePlease> padhu, yes- I have burnt 3 live CDs, two 12.04, and 10.04. All 3 have had problems, even just booting to the live cd- eventually freezing.
[17:45] <padhu> HelpMePlease: are you installed fglrx driver for your graphics card?
[17:45] <Arnas> Buing Counter Strike 1.6 Steam
[17:45] <Netbus> Good Morning!
[17:46] <islandmonkey> Netbus: Good evening!
[17:46] <HelpMePlease> Padhu, no I have not- the ubuntu update program, as well as the "proprietary drivers" program both crash before they complete updating.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> HelpMePlease, have you used the f6 nomodeset option on booting from the live cd or any reboots or boots?
[17:47] <islandmonkey> !nomodeset
[17:48] <HelpMePlease> Ah, yes! I also forgot to say that often there are flashes of different colors, and just general graphic-wackiness. WIll nomodeset solve this problem?
[17:48] <padhu> HelpMePlease: You should start fresh installation. After installation , first check for additional drivers to be installed. and install it first. then start seeking of additional applications to fullfil your needs
[17:49] <HelpMePlease> Padhu, I have already freshly installed 3 times so far, and each time I have been stuck at the login screen, or as soon as the updater crashes.
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> HelpMePlease, nomodeset is for graphic problems I suspect that will help read the link given by the bot.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> HelpMePlease: try updating in TTY1 instead of the graphical desktop
[17:50] <padhu> HelpMePlease: wilee-nilee +1,
[17:51] <HelpMePlease> I will set the nomodeset, but how would i update in tty1?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> HelpMePlease: at the login screen press cTRL+ALT+F1 and run updates there
[17:52] <HelpMePlease> Excellent. I will try those and then come back and report. Thank you all!
[17:52] <padhu> luist: command itself showing error or when installing specific package?
[17:53] <Guest5674> im getting an error during installation "it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specific location "
[17:53] <luist> padhu: command itself
[17:53] <iceman> does anyone know if visual studios 2010 will work on ubuntu 10.04?
[17:54] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[17:54] <padhu> luist: try the command in root user
[17:54] <Jordan_U> xyz_: This channel is for Ubuntu support discussion only.
[17:54] <xyz_> <<<<****^& 15 1t a1w4y5 s4f3 t0 us3 r00t f0r 3v3ryth1ng? &^****>>>>
[17:55] <luist> padhu: im using root all this time already :P
[17:55] <Guest5674> ?
[17:55] <luftikuss> I'd like to help an Ubuntu newcomer. He has got an audio card »Terratec Phase 22«. http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?keywords=Phase+22&x=4&y=11 does not give a positve response. Is this the proper page to find out suitabilty for Ubuntu?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> luist: not wise
[17:55] <padhu> luist: are you using sudo prefix or from root
[17:56] <luist> padhu: root.. all my pastes start with #
[17:56] <codemaniac> .msg nickserv info Jordan_U
[17:56] <padhu> pastes? !....
[17:57] <nathulos> Hello everyone
[17:57] <nathulos> I got an issue... never used linux before
[17:57] <codemaniac> !ask
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> nathulos: ask away
[17:58] <luist> ActionParsnip: hey ill reinstall libc6 manually.. should i use the i386 or amd64?
[17:58] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: No, it still didn't work after I set it to 777.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> nathulos  let's hear it
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> luist: use i386 as your OS is 32bit
[17:58] <nathulos> My laptop has no operating system, and I need to temporarily install Ubuntu, which as I have heard is a more user friendly linux distribution.
[17:58] <WarOfTheNerd> _Marcus, maybe it's more than a permissions issue then
[17:58] <luist> ActionParsnip: can i force reinstall? or i have to uninstall and install?
[17:59] <nathulos> I also need to do this from usb
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> nathulos  boot from the live cd or usb, first
[17:59] <WarOfTheNerd> nathulos, no problem, google for unetbootin and you can use Windows, Mac OS X  or Linux to make a USB stick to install with
[17:59] <whoismoody> i'm think about using the update manger to update from 10.04 to 12.04 never did this will all my programs update automaticaly
[18:00] <Jordan_U> nathulos: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-desktop
[18:00] <_Marcus> WarOfTheNerd: So what else do you think I can do?
[18:00] <nathulos> WarOfNerd, can you PM me by chance
[18:00] <Jordan_U> whoismoody: Yes.
[18:00] <WarOfTheNerd> nathulos, sure =]
[18:00] <nathulos> It also seems I'm new to IRC
[18:01] <WarOfTheNerd> nathulos, sent a PM, should show in a tab
[18:01] <whoismoody> kewl thank Jordan_U
[18:02] <b3rz3rk3r_> is there a way to override the monitor refresh rate?
[18:02] <nathulos> WarOfTheNerd Not sure how to PM
[18:02] <WarOfTheNerd> nathulos, no worries, just chat in here
[18:02] <WarOfTheNerd> nathulos, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ <-- this app will give you what you need to make a LiveUSB, it does it in a semi-automated way :D
[18:03] <WarOfTheNerd> nathulos, it can even download the right ISO for you
[18:09] <b3rz3rk3r_> is there a way to override the monitors automatically detected refresh rate if its wrong?
[18:10] <m15k> Hi. Anyone in here who might help me to move my windows partition to an external hdd?
[18:10] <Jordan_U> m15k: Try asking in ##Windows
[18:11] <m15k> Jordan_U: Would like to boot via grub2 the windows partition of my external hdd
[18:11] <b3rz3rk3r_> m15k: as Jordan_U said, you are better asking in windows room, but that really isnt a good idea. It will almost certainly break windows and prevent you booting it
[18:11] <luftikuss> I'd like to help an Ubuntu newcomer. He has got an audio card »Terratec Phase 22«. http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?keywords=Phase+22&x=4&y=11 does not give a positve response. Is this the proper page to find out suitabilty for Ubuntu?
[18:11] <m15k> Im not quite sure if they're familiar with grub
[18:12] <louiemat_> I have to install ubuntu on my 4600 dell and would like to know the precedure of doing that
[18:12] <b3rz3rk3r_> louiemat: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-desktop
[18:13] <sedeki> I have a usb-stick with MS Windows, how do I boot from it with bochs?
[18:13] <m15k> I already moved the boot and system partition to the external driver, but i'm not quite sure howto boot it using grub2
[18:13] <jgcampbell300> louiemat: http://www.ubuntu.com/download pick your os download burn to iso or usb install
[18:13] <Jordan_U> sedeki: Why bochs rather than qemu/kvm?
[18:14] <sedeki> Jordan_U, i'll check them out
[18:14] <ki4ro_> luftikuss: http://www.mitsdrivers.com/pages_phase-22-driver-ubuntu.html
[18:14] <zetheroo> I have an external LCD attached to my laptop and for some reason nearly any popup dialog automatically opens on the external screen instead of the laptop screen or on the screen which is active at the time! This is very annoying! Is there any way to stop this behaviour?
[18:15] <jgcampbell300> zetheroo: maybe there is a way to set primary display under display settings ?
[18:15] <b3rz3rk3r_> zetheroo: set the laptop screen as your primary rather than the external one
[18:17] <Jordan_U> m15k: How did you "move" the partitions?
[18:17] <zetheroo> b3rz3rk3r_: how is that accomplished?
[18:17] <m15k> Joradan_U: gParted
[18:18] <b3rz3rk3r_> zetheroo: under your monitor setup options where you configure your screens and resolution you should be able to pick a primary display there
[18:18] <Jordan_U> m15k: More needs to be done than that to get a bootable Windows install. ##windows can help you with that.
[18:18] <zetheroo> b3rz3rk3r_: I am there (Displays) and I can see no such option
[18:18] <m15k> k
[18:19] <abro21> http://tinypic.com/r/rw2fmh/6 can someone please tell me why my text looks distored? it's even hard to type on here because everything is messed up
[18:20] <Netbus> I'm pretty bored with ubuntu :(
[18:20] <b3rz3rk3r_> zetheroo: im running XFCE at the minute so I can't walk you though it from memory. Perhaps someone else with Unity can help?
[18:20] <uberamd> abro21: what kind of graphics card?
[18:20] <louiemat_> Know how to do all that but wqill I have to do something so I can use the wireless card in the dell 4600d
[18:20] <abro21> uberamd: intel gm45 express
[18:21] <Netbus> how do you click someone's name and reply to them with irssi?  I forget the shortcut
[18:21] <jgcampbell300> anyone know what maas and juju uses for a dns server ?
[18:22] <Netbus> zetheroo:  Go to System Settings > then click on Displays
[18:22] <abro21> oops
[18:22] <zetheroo> Netbus: yes, am there
[18:22] <louiemat_> downloaded the list of drivers in the 4600 dell will in just recognize the wireless in my house?
[18:22] <b3rz3rk3r_> zetheroo: you can use xrandr to set primary if there is no check in the unity monitor prefs
[18:22] <Netbus> zetheroo:  From the Displays window, you'll be able to select which is your primary monitor as well as the physical layout of your monitors.
[18:23] <abro21> uberamd: ghiklt are the only letters that are messing up
[18:23] <zetheroo> Netbus: I don't see anywhere to set any display as the "primary" one
[18:23] <uberamd> abro21: This looks similar to what you're getting, right: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1982862
[18:24] <HelpMePlease> Hi all! It's me again- I just wanted to thank everyone who helped me, updating through tty1 fixed it!
[18:24] <Kihokki> Hello! What is proper way to install java for Chromium?
[18:24] <HelpMePlease> I still am not able to upgrade the proprietary drivers, but I don't think it will be a problem.
[18:24] <Netbus> zetheroo:  I only have one monitor so I don't see the same thing as you.  Sometimes, an OS will want you to drag the launch bar to the monitor you'd like as primary.
[18:25] <abro21> uberamd: but it hasn't been like this and I haven't had any recent updates and it
[18:25] <uberamd> Kihokki: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java
[18:25] <abro21> uberamd: it's working fine. but i minimized minecraft, and now it's all distorted
[18:25] <zetheroo> Netbus: there is the option called "Launcher placement", but that is already set to Laptop!
[18:25] <b3rz3rk3r_> Kihokki: you should just be able to install sun-java6 I think, chromium will find that
[18:25] <uberamd> abro21: does it remain after reboots?
[18:25] <uberamd> b3rz3rk3r_: does sun-java6 exist anymore?
[18:26] <b3rz3rk3r_> uberamd: haha maybe not, I've been using ubuntu for a long time :p
[18:26] <Kihokki> uberamd & b3rz3rk3r_ Thanks!
[18:26] <Netbus> zetheroo:  perhaps it has to be designated in anotherl ocation.  I'm not sure, im sorry.
[18:27] <uberamd> b3rz3rk3r_: iirc that was taken out a year or so ago :P
[18:27] <b3rz3rk3r_> zetheroo: you can use xrandr to set the primary monitor
[18:27] <uberamd> b3rz3rk3r_: silly licensing
[18:27] <b3rz3rk3r_> uberamd: yeah i remember reading something about them being bought out
[18:27] <uberamd> b3rz3rk3r_: oracle is up there on my "evil" list
[18:28] <zetheroo> b3rz3rk3r_: I will try to do this with xrandr then ..
[18:28] <b3rz3rk3r_> zetheroo: This sets your laptop monitor as your primary monitor: xrandr --output [monitor-here] --primary
[18:31] <veric> Hi need help if anyone has time i have Ubuntu12.04 and can not get web vids to play i also noticed that some java ads are black. I do have restricted installed with flash and Java I did the forums and searched google
[18:32] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: what browser are you running?
[18:32] <veric> new ff
[18:32] <estulticia> I'm upgrading from 10.04 to 12.01 today via cdromupgrade. it's a installation done when 10.04 came out
[18:33] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: can you install another browser for me and make sure the problem isn't limited to FF plz?
[18:33] <estulticia> do you think something can go wrong?
[18:33] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: i'd suggest chromium
[18:33] <veric> yea
[18:34] <evi> im having some issues with the dash not showing open windows
[18:34] <b3rz3rk3r_> estulticia: something can wrong yes, its always a possibility. Make sure you backup all your important data, or do a full drive clone if you can.
[18:34] <estulticia> b3rz3rk3r_: I did a backup
[18:35] <estulticia> b3rz3rk3r_: thanks
[18:35] <veric> installing i tried it yesterday and had no luck will try again
[18:35] <b3rz3rk3r_> estulticia: so all your importtant data is safe. then it doesnt matter if something goes wrong ;)
[18:35] <vampirnata> I've bought a new 3TB hard disk and put it into an usb enclosure. Under windows 7 it detects it and I can format it for the full 3TB. Under linux with kernel 3.2.0-29 I see it detected under dmesg but when I run parted /dev/sde it hangs... any ideas?
[18:36] <estulticia> b3rz3rk3r_: of course no, I was just wondering if people are having issues on this lts to lts upgrade
[18:37] <b3rz3rk3r_> estulticia: A clean install is always a better option. Less chance for things to go wrong
[18:38] <estulticia> :/
[18:38] <veric> b3rz3rk3r chromium says missing plugin
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> estulticia, basically you want to be prepared for anything to happen, bets way to do this is have clones of all OS, and backups of anything you cannot loose.
[18:39] <arcsky> anyone know how i can do so my screen's windows will be named as "user@host" ?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> best*
[18:39] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: not browser specific, means its a system package issue. What plugin is it missing?
[18:39] <cc11rocks> !irc
[18:40] <veric> dose not give details
[18:40] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: can you play youtube videos on FF?
[18:40] <veric> no web vids at all
[18:41] <savio> hey i configure my cpu frequency using cpufreq-set and set my governor as ondemand
[18:41] <savio> will that be okay
[18:41] <savio> ?
[18:41] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: so you are missing flash. go and uninstall restricted extras, and reinstall them. See if that works
[18:42] <veric> i will try sysem shows i have flash
[18:42] <m15k> Is there any utility to modify the windows bootloader?
[18:42] <roasted_> I logged in to find my clock was missing from the upper right. Is there a way to manually add it to the panel in Unity?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> savio, Personally I use indicator-cpufreq it has a button in the panel to change the cpu use
[18:44] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: if that doesnt work, try to remove flashplugin-installer and reinstall that too.
[18:44] <savio> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:44] <GlenK> hi.  so I installed lxdm, but it's not starting up.  in the logs, over and over I see: "prefdm.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1"  Any ideas?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> savio, easier I think to directly change it, no problem.
[18:45] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | root__
[18:45] <savio> wilee-nilee, after changing cpu usages my ubuntu works like charm
[18:45] <jgcampbell300> does anyone here know where the configs that handle DNS are with MAAS
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> savio, Not sure if it automatically goes to the autostart menu though probably does. YOU can have all the autostart stuff show there as well with a single command.
[18:46] <savio> cpufreqd
[18:46] <root__> how can i find what users are created in my system? Jordan_U
[18:46] <savio> is daemon
[18:46] <savio> i think it's kernel business
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> root__  in a terminal, type who
[18:46] <species_4981> Hello all - does anyone have an Apple iPad - I's like to know if Ubuntu 12.10 will recognise and mount it as a mass storage device "natively" for easy transfer of files etc. I don't have an iPad yet but am considering it . Or do you need to download iTunes and run it in a VM or some such approach?
[18:46] <Black_Daemon> connect irc.rizon.net
[18:47] <Black_Daemon> woop
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> species_4981  ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:47] <species_4981> MonkeyDust: got it - thanks
[18:47] <b3rz3rk3r_> species_4981: im fairly sure Apple cripple that functionality on purpose to force you to use iTunes
[18:47] <root__> MonkeyDust:i see only the root...
[18:48] <Jordan_U> root__: Look at /etc/passwd or ask in your distribution's support channel (Ubuntu disables root login by default, so I'm pretty sure you're not using Ubuntu).
[18:48] <species_4981> b3rz3rk3r_: ahh...yes, I( wondered if that might be the case ...hmm, more thinking needed. Thanks for the feedback.
[18:48] <savio> Jordan_U, i think he is using BT
[18:49] <jasonz> hi all how can i stop ubuntu 12.04 asking for my password to unlock keyring after im logged in
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Jason____, this for wireless?
[18:50] <xangua> jasonz: do you have automatic login¿
[18:50] <jasonz> yes wireless
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Jason____, this the desktop you installed with or an additional one?
[18:50] <jasonz> yes automatic log in wife uses it lol
[18:50] <b3rz3rk3r_> jasonz: if you aren't bothered by insecure storage you can remove the storage password and it wont ask you anymore
[18:51] <luist> can anyone help me to reinstall this broken lib? http://pastie.org/4611955
[18:51] <xangua> jasonz: i mean automatic login in your user account
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> root__  don't use root
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> b3rz3rk3r_, Why would you even give that option.
[18:52] <b3rz3rk3r_> wilee-nilee: its not ideal sure, but if he isnt sharing the machine, its not a big deal
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> b3rz3rk3r_, the wireless just needs to be set for auto, and all users.
[18:53] <rwik> hey
[18:54] <b3rz3rk3r_> wilee-nilee: oh i didnt read it was for wireless
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> b3rz3rk3r_, hehe it is easy to miss stuff I do it all the time, Doh. ;)
[18:55] <b3rz3rk3r_> wilee-nilee: i've PM'd him on how to do it properly
[18:55] <johnwerneken> hi
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> cool
[18:56] <luist> i tried to remove libc6 (which was broken) to reinstall it, but i think it didnt work: http://pastie.org/4611978   can anyone help me?
[18:56] <manuel__> sorry
[18:56] <manuel__> this thing died on me
[18:57] <jrib> luist: umm, how did you get in this situation?
[18:59] <adee> luist: you just removed the basic C library of the system. Congrats.
[18:59] <luist> jrib: my whole virtual machine seems to be broken.. any apt-get command would give me: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.10-6.so.4.8: invalid ELF header
[18:59] <luist> adee: thanks, now what? :)
[18:59] <jrib> luist: that's fine.  How did it get in that state originally?
[18:59] <luist> jrib: no idea… the VM just run gitorious and it suddenly broken
[19:00] <b3rz3rk3r_> veric: you solve your flash issue?
[19:03] <adee> luist: try to put back the files from the package manually
[19:03] <luist> adee: cant i just install it? i have the .deb
[19:03] <adee> luist: I guess not even chrooting wouldn't work
[19:04] <denys> hello. I want to play windows 7 game on my 12.04 LTS. Got skills in virtualisation. Which software should I use?
[19:04] <sam___> hey i need to know what is my wireless hardware chip brand and version how?
[19:04] <sam___> I know its broadcom but which version
[19:05] <sam___> anybody?
[19:05] <veric> not yet said java needs upgrade working on that
[19:05] <Pici> sam___: it may be listed in lspci
[19:05] <sam___> how can i find out my wireless hardware description
[19:05] <sam___> pici where is lspci?
[19:06] <Pici> sam___: its a command line tool, you'd need to use the terminal
[19:06] <WeThePeople> sam___, ifconfig, iwconfig
[19:06] <savio> denys, use wine
[19:06] <luist> adee: how do i extract the .deb file?
[19:07] <WeThePeople> luist, just double click on it
[19:07] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep -i net , sam___
[19:07] <denys> savio , I cannot get the resolution I want, I tried playonLinux software, and it didn't work also. So I wanna try a virtualisation
[19:07] <sam___> it says no wireless extension what does it mean .
[19:07] <adee> luist: with an archive manager maybe? But not from the crippled system I afraid...
[19:07] <maladore> I got a ubuntu question any one know the difference between ARM servers and the like?
[19:07] <luist> WeThePeople: on text mode :P
[19:08] <WeThePeople> luist, have fun
[19:08] <zetheroo> well I set the laptop display as the primary display using xrandr but I still have dialog's popping up on the external screen :(
[19:08] <luist> WeThePeople: haha
[19:08] <savio> denys, do you change  resolution using wine config
[19:09] <sam___> lspci | grep -i net was right thanks all and BluesKaj
[19:09] <WeThePeople> luist, maybe this http://www.techiecorner.com/1424/how-to-extract-deb-file-in-linux-mac/
[19:10] <denys> savio yes, I tried, problem is in game it supports minimum 1024x768, even if you change it it wine, game does not support less
[19:10] <savio> denys, which game it is
[19:11] <zetheroo> so is this just a bug?
[19:11] <denys> savio Leage of Legends
[19:12] <Enders> hi I have a question, if you add a new repository manually will the automatic updates gui look at it? or do I have to check for updated packages myself
[19:12] <salim> other than ACL what are the other ways to perform user authorization?
[19:12] <salim> Other than ACL, what are the other ways to perform user authorization?
[19:13] <adee> salim: define user authorization
[19:13] <salim> the user should be able able to access only the files that he has put in the server...
[19:14] <ojii> hi everyone. for some reason my window controls swapped sides when I logged in today. how can I revert them to the default?
[19:14] <adee> salim: what kind of server? File storage or webserver or...
[19:14] <savio> denys, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[19:14] <acer> hi. is anyone here using ubuntu 64bit with qmake ? and 5min of time
[19:15] <acer> ubuntu 12.04
[19:15] <savio> this shows that there is no issue with that game
[19:16] <grandal_prime> ok this may sound stupid..but..ok im stupid.  What is a quick and simple "domain controler"type app i can use to keep track of my machines?
[19:16] <gordonjcp> grandal_prime: keep track of in what way?
[19:17] <grandal_prime> i have these vm's  running on kvm  but i need a central location to get stats, ipaddresses. that sort of thing
[19:17] <gordonjcp> oh like virt-manager?
[19:17] <grandal_prime> hostnames,
[19:17] <grandal_prime> virt manager does not give you connected ip address information and whatnot
[19:17] <grandal_prime> ever see vmware vcenter?
[19:18] <Enders>  if you add a new repository manually will the automatic updates gui look at it? or do I have to check for updated packages myself
[19:18] <Enders> update manager*
[19:18] <grandal_prime> i dont need all th at..but..you know ip address, hostnames,  would be nice if i could set user authentication and whatnot in one palce.
[19:19] <sam___> cant find the linux drive for wireless BCM57780
[19:19] <sam___> any idea ?
[19:19] <grandal_prime> not a big fan of active dir. but something similar but with less features would be nice
[19:20] <grandal_prime> is there like a pam equiv of active dir?
[19:20] <veric> b3rz3rk3r its showing i have java 1.7.0_04 now but i need to upgrade to _06
[19:20] <savio> sam___, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[19:21] <veric> i clicked upgrade now and went throught the steps but it dident work right
[19:21] <bulletrulz> hmm
[19:22] <Needleson> please dont use the older version of nautilus ick
[19:23] <Needleson> I like the new version
[19:23] <jgcampbell300> can somone tell me how to read a manpage ?
[19:23] <king_cobra> maybe you need to be a man to read a manpage..?
[19:24] <adee> jgcampbell300: well, you can use your eye just like when you read a book
[19:24] <veric> b3rz3rk3r_: its showing i have java 1.7.0_04 now but i need to upgrade to _06
[19:24] <jrib> jgcampbell300: to open the man page for bash (for example), you do « man bash ».  You can scroll with arrow keys and quit with 'q'
[19:25] <jgcampbell300> r hostname of the system as those systems can see the server.
[19:25] <jgcampbell300> # if you have a server that appears differently to different subnets
[19:25] <jgcampbell300> # (dual homed, etc), you need to read the --server-override section
[19:25] <jgcampbell300> # of the manpage for how that works.
[19:25] <FloodBot1> jgcampbell300: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:25] <jgcampbell300> jrib: thank you
[19:26] <jrib> jgcampbell300: you can also search with /search_term_here<enter>.  And then cycle results with 'n' and 'N'
[19:26] <jgcampbell300> jrib: heres the sad part .. is there a way to find the proper manual
[19:26] <jrib> jgcampbell300: can you link to what you are reading?
[19:27] <jgcampbell300> jrib: http://paste.kde.org/541430
[19:28] <jrib> jgcampbell300: where is that from?
[19:28] <jgcampbell300> jrib: cobbler settings  ...
[19:29] <jrib> jgcampbell300: then I would try the cobbler man page :) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/cobbler.1.html
[19:29] <jgcampbell300> jrib:  thanks ... how did you find it so fast ?
[19:30] <jrib> jgcampbell300: "server-override" site:manpages.ubuntu.com  in google
[19:30] <lidar> hello
[19:30] <jgcampbell300> jrib: thank you very much
[19:31] <luftikuss> I'd like to help an Ubuntu newcomer. He has got an audio card »Terratec Phase 22«. http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?keywords=Phase+22&x=4&y=11 does not give a positve response. Is this the proper page to find out suitabilty for Ubuntu?
[19:34] <jimmy> hello
[19:34] <thedsgnr> Hello
[19:34] <jimmy> asl pls?
[19:35] <thedsgnr> 30 m
[19:35] <thedsgnr> And turkey
[19:36] <thedsgnr> irc servers are not goos as they were old..
[19:38] <TheLordOfTime> thedsgnr:  wrong type of channel, by the way.  this channel is for ubuntu support.
[19:38] <TheLordOfTime> thedsgnr:  do you have a support question?
[19:38] <thedsgnr> Oh sorry..
[19:38] <borg_> hi, with the shutdown command (just curious) what is the difference between -h (halt) and -P (power down)?
[19:38] <lidar> is ubuntu a boy or a girl ?
[19:39] <guntbert> lidar: keep to ubuntu support please
[19:39] <J0nathan-to> Ubuntu vpn->how do I "not use standard gateway" on external network
[19:41] <Cascador> hello everyone
[19:41] <Cascador> I'm using a computer at my university laboratory
[19:41] <Cascador> I'd like to install google chrome, but I can't because I don't have root access
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  you're kind of out of luck then
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  ask the university IT people to install chrome
[19:42] <Cascador> is it possible to somehow install google chrome in my home directory and run it from there?
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  short of building from source, no.  but your computer lab might restrict compiler access too
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> *and* execution rights
[19:42] <Cascador> TheLordOfTime: I know I can download the source and build it myself
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> i've seen that happened, even set it up myself.
[19:42] <Cascador> no, luckily we have compiler access
[19:43] <Cascador> the thing is, i don't have my "own" computer at the laboratory
[19:43] <lidar> Cascador, compile it!!
[19:43] <Cascador> everytime i get a random one
[19:43] <lidar> Cascador, on a usb stick
[19:43] <Cascador> the home folder is mounted remotely so all my files are always the same no matter what computer i'm assigned
[19:43] <adee> Cascador: you can download firefox as prebuilt stuff and run from anywhere. Maybe chrome offers something similar...
[19:43] <Cascador> lidar: brilliant
[19:43] <Cascador> portable chrome
[19:43] <Cascador> i'll look that up
[19:43] <Cascador> thanks
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  so store it in your home folder, if its all remotely stored compile and set the build or installation dir to be in your home dir on that remote area
[19:44] <Cascador> TheLordOfTime: yep, that's my last resource
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  i have a similar setup here at my University, except on a Windows Roaming Profile (this place doesnt like linux)
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  i run executables that don't need admin from my profile
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> Cascador:  at work, i have a similar setup on linux systems/servers
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> so...
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[19:44] <Cascador> yeah, it's a pretty common setup
[19:45] <freerobby> Does anybody know why when I do a "ps aux" on ubuntu 12, some processes are owned by their username while others are owned by their uid?
[19:45] <freerobby> I'm not familiar with when unix makes that distinction over ownership
[19:46] <freerobby> but my ulimit settings are not applied to users when their processes are owned by the uid
[19:46] <Meris> freerobby, that's because some of the processes have been started with the setuid bit on.
[19:47] <freerobby> Meris: I see. Do you have any idea why this upstart file being run would do that? https://gist.github.com/c961d7e187c2da1932ed
[19:47] <freerobby> e.g. why the torquebox process would be owned by its UID rather than its username
[19:47] <freerobby> the ulimit -n in that example fails because it's set on the username rather than the uid
[19:49] <Meris> freerobby, sorry I have to leave the keyboard now, because I have a sudden headache (not caused by you, don't worry)
[19:50] <freerobby> Meris: No worries, thanks for the pointer.
[19:50] <perf> Hey looking for help
[19:50] <veric> do i need java runtime and ice tea in ubuntu 12.04?
[19:50] <guntbert> perf: state your question
[19:50] <dr_willis> !java
[19:50] <lidar> veric, not unlesss you want to use them
[19:50] <lidar> !ask > perf
[19:51] <veric> what do i absoutly need to see web videos
[19:51] <perf> Alright World of warcraft has just came out with a new patch and I go through the steps like it say on winehq and it pops up with an error while trying to install
[19:51] <dr_willis> depends on the site.
[19:51] <perf> How do I fix this problem?
[19:51] <veric> java flash and restricted package?
[19:52] <guntbert> perf: wine is supported in #winehq
[19:52] <dr_willis> veric:  there are flash downloader and flashreplacer extensions that let you get by withoug flash on some flash-required sites..
[19:52] <perf> I'm new to linux how do i get in there?
[19:53] <guntbert> perf: type /j #winehq
[19:53] <dr_willis> java, flash, restricted extras are  what most people need
[19:53] <veric> ok great thx so ice tea is just an extra
[19:53] <dr_willis> icetea is java
[19:54] <dr_willis> one of 3 java implementions
[19:54] <veric> ah
[19:54] <J0nathan-to> My ubuntu vpn client -->disables internett(external networks)when im connected to work. In windows 7 on my virtualbox I solved this by going into properties of tcp/IPv4 and advanced TCP/IP and unchecked "Use standard gateway on external networks" Then I had "Internet access"as well as access to my work computers. I would like the same settings in Ubuntu, can anybody please help me with this?
[20:01] <Barrtohawk> hello all
[20:10] <chaotix_> hi...  can someone point me to a tutorial on making network bridges in the terminal?  a long time ago i found a good one, but im not sure exactly how to set it up, like if i am connected to a wifi network and i hook an ethernet cable up and plug it into another pc...  i know the bridge command is brctl, for bridge control, and the "man brctl" and "bctrl --help" look good, but i am worried i...
[20:10] <chaotix_> ...might do it worng...  of if someone is experienced with this maybe they could tell me...  the networks i need to have bridged are linksys and eth0
[20:11] <chaotix_> i know i could do it from the network manager, but i am just wondering how to do it this way, i am trying to learn how to do as much as i can in the terminal
[20:13] <Troy^>  does anyone have any experience with streaming 1080p files from a weird file server to a wireless comp/laptop on 802.11n?
[20:13] <dr_willis> Troy^: depends on how the video is being streamed..
[20:14] <Troy^> dr_willis: meaning?
[20:14] <dr_willis> upnp, samba, some other service.....
[20:15] <dr_willis> allshare, plex, (both upnp servers) , vlc can also stream..
[20:15] <Troy^> what's the diff and what is better i would assume samba would be sufficient as i can use xbmc on my comp as a front end?
[20:15] <dr_willis> xbmc can do upnp also
[20:15] <Troy^> i use xbmc as a front end
[20:15] <dr_willis> it depends onwhat the server can do
[20:16] <Troy^> well i dont want any encoding.. i want full 1080p raw file will it beable to buffer properly or plain out stream without stuttering?
[20:17] <dr_willis> n speed netwwworks should  be able to handle 1080p
[20:18] <Troy^> i hope so i guess i'll try it out
[20:18] <dr_willis> my roku does it all the time
[20:18] <dr_willis> so does my boxeebox
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> what's roku?
[20:19] <dr_willis> a very popular media box for the tv
[20:19] <dr_willis> you know what a boxee box is but not a roku? ;)
[20:22] <chaotix_> dr_willis: hey, you dont know the answer to my question?  i know u are an ubuntu genious...   i created and named the bridge, and was able to add the first device, eth0 to it
[20:22] <chaotix_> but it wont let me add wlan0
[20:22] <freerobby> Does anybody know why I can set a ulimit -n when it's lower than the current ulimit -n, but never increase it
[20:22] <chaotix_> :(
[20:23] <freerobby> e.g. ulimit -n will yield 1024. I can raise it once to the global limit "ulimit -n 65335", but then if i bring it back down i can't raise it back up.
[20:23] <dr_willis> i don't do much bridging .. bbl
[20:24] <chaotix_> i get this:  user2@ubuntu:~$  brctl addif BRIDGE01 wlan0
[20:24] <chaotix_> can't add wlan0 to bridge BRIDGE01: Operation not supported
[20:24] <chaotix_> oh ok
[20:24] <chaotix_> thanks anyways
[20:24] <FloodBot1> chaotix_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <chaotix_> ok
[20:25] <cyrano_> I seem to be having an issue booting the system without being plugged in to a wired network. It takes much longer to boot. In the plymouth boot screen it even says "trying to connect to network" then something along the lins of "continuing in 60 seconds if still not able to connect to network"
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> cyrano_  wireless?
[20:28] <cyrano_> well the thing is if it isn
[20:29] <amr_> hi, sorry but if I have linuxmint question can I ask it here, as I understand that linuxmint is build on ubuntu and debian?
[20:29] <lidar> !mint > amr_
[20:30] <auronandace> amr_: no
[20:30] <cyrano_> if it isn't connected to a wired network it takes much longer to boot then when it does boot the network manager applet doesn't show up and I'm not able to connect to wireless netowkrs unless I manually start it
[20:30] <cyrano_> there are two different version of linuxmint one that is made from ubuntu and the other made from debian
[20:30] <cyrano_> ubuntu was a fork of debian many years ago
[20:32] <Meris> There is even a Debian version with a BSD kernel ;-)
[20:32] <TheLordOfTime> discussion on the origin of mint is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <cyrano_> @MonkeyDust when I try to manually run NetWork manager after I boot without it being plugged in to a wired network I see multiple instances of the nm-applet in the indicator-applet
[20:32] <Meris> I agree
[20:33] <cyrano_> @TheLordOfTime noted
[20:33] <J0nathan-to> My ubuntu vpn client -->disables internett(external networks)when im connected to work. In windows 7 on my virtualbox I solved this by going into properties of tcp/IPv4 and advanced TCP/IP and unchecked "Use standard gateway on external networks" Then I had "Internet access"as well as access to my work computers. I would like the same settings in Ubuntu, can anybody please help me with this?
[20:34] <guntbert> cyrano_: in IRC there is no need for the @ to show you are talking to someone
[20:35] <TheLordOfTime> what guntbert said
[20:35] <sporkf> */30 1 * * *  # Is this the cron schedule for every hour and a half ?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> sporkf  no, * 30 * .... is
[20:36] <lawltoad> will a liveusb that boots on a PC boot on a Macbook pro? or do I need to make the bootdisk from the mac itself?
[20:36] <guntbert> sporkf: I don't think you can get a job every 90 minutes
[20:36] <sporkf> 2 hours?
[20:37] <freerobby> Is there any way to force /etc/security/limits.conf to reload without exiting the current shell?
[20:37] <lidar> lawltoad, no it wont boot
[20:37] <Meris> lawltoad, np, just plug it in and hold the option key to select your boot device
[20:37] <lidar> they got rid of secure boot whatever :O
[20:38] <sporkf> 30 */1 * * *  # for an hour and ah half?
[20:38] <lawltoad> Meris, lidar wait... you seem to be saying the opposite... am i misunderstanding?
[20:38] <Meris> lidar, if it works from an optical drive, it should also work from an USB stick. In fact, that's how I "upgraded" to Lion
[20:38] <sporkf> 0 */2 * * *  # Cron jobs for every 2 hours. correct ?
[20:39] <veric> Ok still vant get web vids to play in on 12.04 i removed java flash and browsers starting fresh can anyone help me get the right ones in
[20:39] <guntbert> sporkf: that would be the same as 30 * * * *, meaning at 30 minutes past every full hour
[20:39] <novaspirit> hi i'm having trouble in trying to figure out if this is the right approach for this, i have two wireless nic with two internet connections. i've been looking up bonding the conection but that seem to apply on a same network situation. can't some one direct me to the right direction?
[20:39] <lawltoad> lidar, how do i make a macbootable usb from linux?
[20:40] <guntbert> sporkf: yes
[20:40] <lickalott> veric which browser are you using (or which ones have you tried)?
[20:40] <Meris> lawltoad, lidar and I probably disagree because we have experience with different generations of MacBook Pro's.
[20:40] <veric> ff and chro
[20:40] <guntbert> sporkf: in your terminla type   man 5 crontab  for more details
[20:40] <novaspirit> lawltoad, i currently am using a triple boot with mac os
[20:40] <veric> i like ff better
[20:40] <lickalott> you check security settings within those?
[20:41] <novaspirit> lawltoad i had to make a bootable usb via using a mac or VM mac
[20:41] <veric> deleted both to start fresh
[20:41] <lickalott> did you -purge
[20:41] <lickalott> residule cache may bite you if not
[20:41] <tziemann> are man pages the way to learn, or books?
[20:41] <veric> nope whats that
[20:41] <salim> When a new user is created , what is his/her group id?
[20:41] <lidar> lawltoad, you should be fine here is tutorial http://scottlinux.com/2011/06/14/how-to-dual-boot-os-x-and-linux/
[20:42] <veric> i c
[20:42] <salim> When a new user is created , what is his/her group id?
[20:42] <novaspirit> you can try using, iATKOS S3 or something to  virtualbox or something
[20:42] <lickalott> wait 1 veric
[20:42] <novaspirit> then using that make a bootable usb for mac
[20:42] <veric> ok
[20:42] <salim> When a new user is created , what is his/her group id?
[20:43] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, histo, Zeptis, you remember me? topic 'defect CD' from 1999?
[20:43] <guntbert> salim: in ubuntu a new group with her name is created too
[20:43] <Multbrelch> You were right, the CD device is not well working - on a different computer I could read the CD
[20:43] <soundray> salim: the first available number above 1000 (1000 being the id of the user created during installation)
[20:43] <lidar> Multbrelch, 13 years ago >>>
[20:44] <Multbrelch> lidar, yes, old CD
[20:44] <Multbrelch> but still works
[20:45] <lawltoad> lidar, this still requires using the mac to make the CD, i suppose this makes it impossible to make a mac-bootable usb FROM linux
[20:45] <novaspirit> lawltoad, vbox
[20:45] <novaspirit> lawltoad, find a mac vbox image
[20:46] <lickalott> veric apt-get remove -purge Firefox
[20:46] <novaspirit> lawltoad, that's the only way to do it if you don't have another mac
[20:46] <zykotick9> veric: use "sudo apt-get purge firefox" or "sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox"
[20:47] <guntbert> salim: you can create as many groups as you want - sudo addrgroup <newgroupname>
[20:47] <guntbert> *addgroup
[20:47] <novaspirit> hi i'm having trouble in trying to figure out if this is the right approach for this, i have two wireless nic with two internet connections. i've been looking up bonding the conection but that seem to apply on a same network situation. can't some one direct me to the right direction?
[20:48] <lickalott> zykotick9 you need the double dash for purge?
[20:48] <zykotick9> lickalott: yes, a single dash implies a single character as an option, double-dash a word
[20:48] <lickalott> hrrrmm
[20:48] <epinky> could anyone help me find what's the architecture of "sudo" ?
[20:49] <lickalott> never used --.  maybe that's why I still have remnants of vsftpd....
[20:49] <lickalott> good to know
[20:49] <epinky> any presentation or paper will be appreciated
[20:49] <zykotick9> lickalott: but you don't either - "sudo apt-get purge foo"
[20:49] <veric> yep single did not work
[20:49] <lickalott> ahh
[20:49] <novaspirit> apt-get don't need --
[20:49] <novaspirit> it's apt-get install
[20:49] <novaspirit> apt-get purge
[20:49] <lickalott> sudo = required?
[20:49] <guntbert> epinky: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:49] <lidar> epinky, architecture of the cpu makes more sense .. version of sudo ..
[20:49] <novaspirit> yes for apt-get if your root user
[20:50] <lickalott> copy
[20:50] <novaspirit> yes for apt-get if your NOT root user
[20:50] <novaspirit> typo
[20:50] <lickalott> tks
[20:50] <epinky> lidar: I mean, what modules are concerned, from the developer point of view
[20:51] <auronandace> epinky: modules? in relation to sudo? you've lost me
[20:51] <epinky> guntbert: no diagram of how the thing works, or how it can interface to PAM for example
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> epinky  download the source and try to find out for yourself... sudo apt-get source sudo
[20:53] <lidar> epinky, i bet if you open the source files.. and read the #includes .. you would have good idea of whats going on !
[20:53] <veric> had to sudo auto remove for left over files they all seem gone now
[20:53] <epinky> MonkeyDust: really? I was hoping there were slides somewhere
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> epinky  you could make them, for future 'explorers'
[20:53] <soundray> novaspirit: I've no personal experience with this, but have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding ?
[20:53] <veric> how about for flash?
[20:53] <epinky> MonkeyDust: no way :)
[20:54] <soundray> novaspirit: it looks like it should work for completely independent connections
[20:54] <novaspirit> soundray: yes i have read it and tried it. It only works if both my nics are going to connecto to same network
[20:54] <soundray> novaspirit: okay… pity
[20:55] <novaspirit> soundray: yea, i'm still googling about it and what i think i'm trying to look for now is load balancer.
[20:55] <hellslinger> does anyone know how to install nautilus 3.5.90 in precise?
[20:55] <soundray> novaspirit: good luck
[20:56] <novaspirit> soundray: thanks
[20:56] <MasterBob> Hello. I'm trying to understand why when I do passwd -S myUserAccount I get myUserAccount P. The man says I should get 7 lines. I think it's linked with the windows domain account. How can I check?
[20:57] <veric> Lickalott should i purge flash to?
[20:58] <lickalott> neg
[20:58] <veric> ok
[20:58] <Meris> I've got to sleep now,  thanks for the nice atmosphere
[20:59] <sheinatte> bonjour
[20:59] <Meris> !fr > sheinatte
[20:59] <veric> think im clear then  no browser java flash or restricted packages. Wheres the best place to start and witch versions
[20:59] <sheinatte> enfaite c'était juste pour vous dire salut
[20:59] <sheinatte> mais je dois déco salut !
[21:04] <sarntam> Hi. I'm having trouble with my sound setup in Ubuntu 12.04. My sound card is a Realtek ALC269VC / Intel HD Audio. If I use stock ALSA that comes with 12.04, my headphones get muted when I plug them in, and I have to manually adjust the volume in alsamixer every time. I was told to update to a new alsa release, so I got the latest alsa-hda-dkms from Launchpad. This fixes the headphone issue! But now, VLC and Skype have crackling noises and tons
[21:04] <sarntam> of static.
[21:06] <Fylh_if> Hi all / I have a bug http://rghost.net/40086334/image.png
[21:08] <lidar> Fylh_if, i think most of us only know english whats the error say
[21:09] <lidar> Fylh_if, or is thew error that its in russian and you speak english ?
[21:09] <Fylh_if> lidar: i speak english
[21:09] <lidar> Fylh_if, so you cant read it either ?
[21:10] <Fylh_if> thouse says rhat i was last update  - 1/244/382/468
[21:11] <Kihokki> Which program is best for viewing dvb-t broadcasts? I want to have subtitles with programs
[21:11] <soundray> Kihokki: VDR
[21:12] <lidar> Kihokki, does vlc do that ?
[21:14] <Kihokki> lidar, It can, but it is too complicated. I managed to make Kaffeine work, it found all the channels and recognized my tuner, knows which program is running but there is no audio or video.
[21:14] <Kihokki> And Kaffeine seems to be most user friendly for me
[21:14] <powerplay> Hey everyone, can someone explain to me difference between login shell and non-login shell?
[21:16] <soundray> powerplay: it's in the initialization files that are loaded. For bash, this is explained in the section INVOCATION of the man page
[21:19] <powerplay> soundray: it says "A  login shell is one whose first character of argument zero is a -, orone started with the --login option."
[21:19] <soundray> powerplay: read on
[21:20] <powerplay> soundray: i am trying to figure out when i login into my ubuntu with GUI and open up the terminal, am i in a login shell?
[21:20] <jrib> how can I control the LEDs on my keyboard while inside X from a terminal?
[21:20] <MasterBob> powerplay, you are most likely in a bash shell
[21:21] <powerplay> MasterBob: yes i am in a bash shell, so it this "Bash" shell a login shell or a non-login shell?
[21:21] <lidar> powerplay, are we doing your homework?
[21:21] <ariqs> my father updated to the latest ubuntu and now grub is not showing at the boot screen
[21:21] <ariqs> I believe it's just not showing on the monitor
[21:21] <ariqs> but it delays at that time
[21:21] <bekks> ariqs: Because grub is hidden by default.
[21:21] <MasterBob> What lidar asked.
[21:21] <ariqs> why isn't grub displayin the boot options
[21:21] <ariqs> bekks: so how do you unhide it?>
[21:21] <avaiano> teste
[21:22] <avaiano> uhu
[21:22] <bekks> ariqs: By pressing esc or shift while booting.
[21:22] <bekks> !grub2 | ariqs
[21:22] <ariqs> is there a way to make that no default?
[21:22] <powerplay> lidar: no i am trying to lean more about shell because i am trying to configure my terminal so that i get color coded texts when i execute "ls" command
[21:22] <powerplay> MasterBob: no i am trying to lean more about shell because i am trying to configure my terminal so that i get color coded texts when i execute "ls" command
[21:22] <drag0nius> anyone managed to run  12.04 with nvidia card?
[21:22] <lidar> powerplay, edit your .bashrc or .profile
[21:23] <MasterBob> powerplay, you don't need to say it twice.
[21:23] <soundray> powerplay: I don't know, but it's easy to find out.  Just set a variable from ~/.bash_login and see if in a new terminal that variable is set or not
[21:23] <powerplay> MasterBob: sorry kinda new to IRC
[21:23] <MasterBob> powerplay, it's okay.
[21:24] <powerplay> lidar:  exactly, thats where the problem lies, my bashrc is configured properly but its not being loaded
, yes
[21:24] <drag0nius> what card?
[21:24] <MasterBob> powerplay, have you logged out / back in?
[21:24] <drag0nius> and what driver
[21:24] <powerplay> lidar: and thats why im trying to figure or wheather i am in a loggin shell or not because the bashrc is not loaded in a login shell
[21:24] <Multbrelch> GeForce 8400M GS
[21:24] <soundray> powerplay: and it's not just that you forgot the . in .bashrc ?
[21:25] <powerplay> MasterBob: yes i have,
[21:25] <Multbrelch> Linux-x86_64
[21:25] <Multbrelch> 295.40
[21:25] <ariqs> the monitor says, "input not supported"
[21:25] <drag0nius> one screen or more?
[21:25] <powerplay> soundray: nope i am sure i didnt cause when i opened it with my editor i gotta buncha code
[21:25] <lidar> powerplay, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt full blown tutorial
[21:25] <ariqs> when it's supposed to be showing hte grub menu, I get "input not supported'
[21:25] <ariqs> one screen
[21:25] <Multbrelch> One and sometimes two
[21:25] <savio> bye
[21:26] <temp123> hello reqius
[21:26] <drag0nius> i cant run more than 2 no matter what with both gtx 280 and 560 ;/
[21:26] <lidar> powerplay, type bash .. maybe your default shell is set to csh or something else there are few options
[21:26] <drag0nius> except for those built-in drivers
[21:26] <Multbrelch> u want to have three?
[21:26] <drag0nius> nah
[21:26] <drag0nius> 2
[21:26] <ariqs> why must you guys make it so that people can download these updates when they mess things up
[21:26] <ariqs> I'm sick of this
[21:26] <drag0nius> but i get some ...loads of bugs
[21:26] <ariqs> everytime my father updates, I get new problems
[21:26] <Multbrelch> aha
[21:26] <ariqs> it's fucking lame
[21:26] <Multbrelch> which card?
[21:26] <FloodBot1> ariqs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <drag0nius> compiz/unity errors visual glitches
[21:27] <drag0nius> both gtx 280 and gtx 560 ti
[21:27] <Multbrelch> drag, which card?
[21:27] <Multbrelch> ah, okay
[21:27] <lidar> !language > ariqs
[21:27] <ariqs> So, my father updated to the latest ubuntu and now he doesn't get a boot selection screen
[21:27] <powerplay> lidar: my default shell is "bash" and i can get the color coding once i type "source ~/.bashrc" but the problem is i have to do this everytime i open up terminal
[21:27] <ariqs> at the point where he should get it, it says "
[21:28] <Multbrelch> well ... is it a standard 12.04 version u installed?
[21:28] <ariqs> input not supported
[21:28] <powerplay> lidar: do you know when i open up my terminal, am i in a login or non-login shell?
[21:28] <drag0nius> yep
[21:28] <drag0nius> and this very same bug exists since release of 12.04
[21:28] <drag0nius> tried like 3 times over last half year
[21:28] <Multbrelch> and did u check in the internet if these cards work?
[21:28] <lidar> powerplay, check your permissions of .bashrc
[21:29] <soundray> powerplay: it depends on your setup. Generally, you'd have a non-login shell.
[21:29] <Multbrelch> wow, okay. Send bug report in launchpad
[21:29] <lidar> powerplay, its non-login on a default setup
[21:29] <drag0nius> i saw there are loads of topics already about it
[21:29] <Multbrelch> and?
[21:29] <powerplay> soundray: oh ok even after reading the man pages i am a little confused as to what differetiates a login shell from a non-login shell
[21:30] <drag0nius> and some people seem to find solution somehow
[21:30] <drag0nius> but dont write how
[21:30] <Multbrelch> Did you try older nvidia dirvers?
[21:30] <ariqs> where is the grub config file located now?
[21:30] <Multbrelch> You can download the 'drivers' from nvidia
[21:30] <zykotick9> ariqs: most options in /etc/default/grub
[21:30] <drag0nius> both those from nvidia and propertiary just screw everything
[21:31] <andre__> irc.rizon.net
[21:31] <powerplay> lidar: the permissions are "-rw-r--r-- "
[21:31] <Multbrelch> and its only with exactly 2 screens, right?
[21:31] <drag0nius> i dont think you can connect more
[21:32] <soundray> powerplay: it's in the invocation. If you use gnome-terminal, it should normally run as a non-login, interactive shell, ie. one that executes $HOME/.bashrc
[21:32] <drag0nius> to nvidia cards, theres some internal 2 screens limit per card ;d
[21:32] <Multbrelch> no, what I want to know is if u have same problems with only one
[21:32] <lidar> powerplay, i dont remember for sure but it may need to be +x try chmod +x ~/.bashrc
[21:32] <drag0nius> one seem to work fine
[21:32] <drag0nius> twin view too
[21:32] <drag0nius> but i need separated 2
[21:33] <Multbrelch> launchpad ... ask there ...
[21:33] <soundray> lidar: no, definitely not. It only needs to be readable (powerplay)
[21:33] <kanna> say i have a group with gid 200 and two users in it 101 and 102.If the fsuid is 101,will access to gid 200's files be permitted?
[21:33] <Multbrelch> or nvidia?
[21:33] <jrib> hello google-land, the answer to my question about how to control the LEDs on my keyboard while inside X from a terminal is to use xset led (see « man xset »).  Note you can only control scroll lock by default, but you can configure X to allow more with the XLeds option
[21:33] <drag0nius> i just cant belive it didnt get solved yet
[21:34] <powerplay> soundray: oh ok cause unfortunately its not executing it i dont know why :( right now what i have done is included "source ~/.bashrc" is my bash_profile. i dont know if thats the right way to go about it but it works
[21:34] <Multbrelch> there are also some other things which are not yet solved although they are important, also with respect to Compiz
[21:34] <kanna> say i have a group with gid 200 and two users in it 101 and 102.If the fsuid is 101,will access to gid 200's files be permitted?
[21:34] <powerplay> soundray: but i would rather have it execute bashrc by default like its supposed to
[21:34] <soundray> powerplay: it's a workaround (but it shouldn't be necessary)
[21:35] <lidar> powerplay, did you edit that file with root permissions by chance ? does your user account own it ?
[21:35] <jrib> kanna: "fsuid"?
[21:35] <soundray> powerplay: have you tried logging in as a different user and see if it behaves normally then?
[21:35] <drag0nius> i'd really love to move from windows to ubuntu, but always something isnt working
[21:35] <powerplay> soundray: no i am the only user on my system. should i just login as guest and give it a shot?
[21:35] <Multbrelch> I moved 2 years ago and: I never come back, hehe
[21:35] <Sokel> drag0nius: Like what.
[21:35] <kanna> jrib:the one u do by setfsuid function
[21:35] <drag0nius> like my video card
[21:36] <powerplay> lidar: no im about to try that
[21:36] <bekks> drag0nius: Which one is it exactly?
[21:36] <soundray> powerplay: that's a possibility. But see what lidar said
[21:36] <jrib> kanna: it would depend on the permissions of the file
[21:36] <drag0nius> i've either gtx 280 r gtx 560 ti and running 2 separate screens is absolute requirement
[21:37] <bekks> drag0nius: Two screens or two displays?
[21:37] <drag0nius> two monitors, whatever you call it
[21:38] <kanna> jrib:by default shudnt it be like  members in the group could access group directory?
[21:38] <jrib> kanna: I don't understand what you just said
[21:39] <powerplay> lidar: and just another observation, when i do "ls" after the running "sudo su" then it works....
[21:39] <kanna> If there is a group container,by default will the memners in the group get access to this directory or not?
[21:40] <zykotick9> powerplay: don't use "sudo su" unless you want to break your user account...
[21:40] <soundray> powerplay: sudo -i is recommended over sudo su
[21:40] <powerplay> zykotick9: why will it break the account?
[21:40] <soundray> powerplay: this may well be what messed up your .bashrc
[21:40] <zykotick9> powerplay: permission in you home dir will get messed up
[21:40] <powerplay> zykotick9: oh ok thanks
[21:41] <soundray> powerplay: can you do a 'ls -l ~/.bashrc' and paste the results?
[21:41] <jrib> kanna: it depends on the permissions... The default umask is 222, so I suppose members of the group will have read and execute permissions by default
[21:41] <kanna> ok thanks
[21:42] <powerplay> soundray: -rw-r--r-- 1 miker miker 413 Aug 28 14:44 /home/miker/.bashrc
[21:42] <soundray> powerplay: okay, that looks fine
[21:42] <lidar> powerplay, after you run sudo su you become root .. so you edited roots .bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> you should not need to edit roots .bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> and you don't need to sudo su to become root or edit that
[21:43] <powerplay> lidar: i see i have never edited bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> (but you should not need to edit it anyway)
[21:43] <ikonia> powerplay: there is no reason to edit roots .bashrc as the root user is locked in ubuntu and therefore not used
[21:43] <powerplay> lidar: i am just trying to get it loaded like its suppose to
[21:43] <ikonia> powerplay: I strongly suggest you do not follow what lidar has suggested
[21:44] <powerplay> ikonia: ok so basically to change permissions of my bashrc?
[21:44] <zykotick9> ikonia: i believe lidar was explaining what powerplay might have already done...
[21:44] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2. I just noticed recently that the spellcheck no longer works in LO3, but it works in other places like this chat and the intranet. How do I fix this?
[21:44] <ikonia> powerplay: what do you want to change he permissions to ?
[21:44] <lidar> ikonia, powerplay im not suggesting he do it .. im pointing out the fact that he already did
[21:44] <ikonia> lidar: I see, thank you
[21:45] <powerplay> lidar: so i should try the chmod command u suggested?
[21:45] <soundray> ikonia: the sudo thing is a sideshow. The problem is that $HOME/.bashrc does not get sourced in the bash inside a newly opened terminal
[21:45] <ikonia> soundray: ok, great now we have a real problem
[21:45] <soundray> ikonia: we checked the permissions on ~/.bashrc -- those are okay (powerplay)
[21:46] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2. I just noticed recently that the spellcheck no longer works in LO3, but it works in other places like this chat and the intranet. How do I fix this?
[21:46] <ikonia> soundray: has the .bash_profile been changed to not source it ?
[21:46] <powerplay> soundray: so is this a bug since the man pages suggests that bashrc is suppose to get loaded
[21:46]  * jrib guesses "run as login shell" is checked
[21:47] <ikonia> I don't think it's a bug
[21:47] <ikonia> either the bash_profile has been changed or it's not a login shell as jrib suggests
[21:47] <powerplay> ikonia: no the only thing i did in bash_profile is include the source command so it gets sourced. i just did it as a workaround
[21:47] <ikonia> powerplay: you don't need to include the source command
[21:47] <soundray> ikonia: Ubuntu doesn't create .bash_profile in the user's home by default now, does it?
[21:47] <ikonia> powerplay: there should be an if statement that will source it
[21:47] <powerplay> soundray: nope i had to create it
[21:47] <ikonia> soundray: it's on my machine
[21:47] <jrib> ikonia, soundray: it's ~/.profile now
[21:48] <ikonia> ahh there we go, it's gone back to the old bourne standard.....for no reason
[21:48] <ikonia> so .profile it is
[21:48] <ikonia> thank you jrib
[21:48] <soundray> ikonia: you've probably installed an older version and updated
[21:48] <soundray> jrib: okay, thanks
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: hi
[21:48] <jrib> powerplay: how are you sure that your .bashrc isn't being sourced?
[21:48] <kanna> will creating a new group ,create a new directory?
[21:48] <jrib> kanna: no, probably not
[21:48] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2. I just noticed recently that the spellcheck no longer works in LO3, but it works in other places like this chat and the intranet. How do I fix this?
[21:49] <powerplay> jrib: because the "ls" command results are not color coded, but once i run "source .bashrc" then they are
[21:49] <powerplay> jrib: which means i have to manually source it for it to work
[21:49] <dr_willis> powerplay:  check that your .profile is sourceing .bashrc at the end.
[21:49] <dr_willis> powerplay:  or .bash_login
[21:49] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, u saw my message?
[21:49] <jrib> powerplay: it could (unlikely) mean that it runs and then something unsets your color settings
[21:49] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: I saw you highlighted me, I didn't see your message
[21:50] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, I could read the CD on an other computer, so it is the CD ROM device which does not well work with old CDs
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: cool
[21:50] <Multbrelch> on my first computer
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: and you read it off okay?
[21:50] <powerplay> dr_willis: my .profile does have a if statement for sourcing bashrc
[21:50] <Multbrelch> hehe, a CD from 1999
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: maybe the lens needs cleaned
[21:50] <Multbrelch> may be
[21:51] <Multbrelch> I got all data
[21:51] <soundray> powerplay: I'd suggest checking the permissions and ownership on ~/.profile next with ls -l
[21:51] <powerplay> jrib: ya maybe bit u havent really done any tweaks in my bash
[21:51] <powerplay> soundray: here it is "-rw-r--r-- "
[21:51] <soundray> powerplay: okay, and the ownership?
[21:51] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 and it doesn't spell check anything. But spell checker works in other programmes and the intranet.
[21:52] <powerplay> soundray: what do u mean by owneshipo?
[21:52] <soundray> powerplay: the owner and group of the file. Should be "miker miker"
[21:52] <powerplay> soundray: yup
[21:52] <dr_willis> powerplay:  toss in some echo 'this is .profile' or other lines in the varioys configs to see whats getting ran when and where.
[21:52] <jrib> powerplay: it really is better imo to just run the command and pastebin the output including the command.  A lot of times that lets one catch small details one wasn't even looking for
[21:53] <soundray> jrib: what command do you want powerplay to run?
[21:54] <jrib> soundray: nothing in particular.  I was just suggesting it for the future. If he had just pastebinned the « ls -l ~/.bashrc », you wouldn't have had to ask for the ownership info again (and we could have also double checked he's checking the right file)
[21:54] <dr_willis>  ls -l .profile .bashrc
[21:54] <soundray> jrib: got you
[21:55] <powerplay> jrib: alright
[21:56] <powerplay> dr_willis: -rw-r--r-- 1 miker miker 3413 Aug 28 14:44 .bashrc
[21:56] <powerplay> -rw-r--r-- 1 miker miker 674 Aug 28 14:17 .profile
[21:57] <jarson> why the hell would i need to hold control to click using a trackpad on a toshiba lappy, and how to make it act normally
[21:58] <powerplay> are you guys sure its a non login shell? cause man page states "       When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and  exe‐
[21:58] <powerplay>        cutes  commands  from  the  file  /etc/profile,  if  that  file  exists.   After  reading  that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile,
[21:58] <powerplay>        ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable.   The
[21:58] <powerplay>        --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior."
[21:58] <powerplay> "
[21:58] <FloodBot1> powerplay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:59] <jrib> powerplay: it isn't a login shell by default (well last time I checked anyway) when you open a new terminal, but there is an option in the configuration.  It shouldn't matter anyway though because the default profile sources bashrc
[22:00] <drag0nius> would it be possible to create symbolic link between ntfs and fat3?
[22:00] <jrib> drag0nius: I don't think either of those filesystems support symlinks, do they?
[22:00] <powerplay> jrib: alrighty someone suggested to me that the problem is that i dont have a profile in the first place. could that be the problem?
[22:00] <Sokel> drag0nius and jrib NTFS supports symlinks.
[22:01] <drag0nius> i've a bit mishmashed steam on windows
[22:01] <drag0nius> like commons folder on one drive, then few games on another linked with those
[22:01] <jrib> Sokel: cool.  Can you create them with just ln -s?
[22:01] <Sokel> jrib: Yes.
[22:02] <powerplay> jrib: also when i run "ls --color" i do get the color coded results
[22:02] <jrib> drag0nius: guess you can then :)
[22:02] <spiouki> hey I can't connect ubuntu 12.04 to win7 need help
[22:02] <drag0nius> what you mean?
[22:02] <spiouki> with samba ofcoarse
[22:02] <Sokel> jrib and drag0nius: Not only does NTFS support symbolic links between a linux file system and itself, windows has it's own method of symbolic linking as well.
[22:02] <Sokel> drag0nius: Just using ln -s source destination
[22:03] <drag0nius> spiuki you create samba share on same workgroup
[22:03] <drag0nius> then it should plain work
[22:03] <drag0nius> how can i get whole path on nautilus?
[22:03] <drag0nius> of current folder
[22:03] <jrib> powerplay: I'm confused when you say you don't have a profile.  Why do you say that?
[22:03] <jrib> drag0nius: try ctrl-l (maybe)
[22:04] <spiouki> I installed samba and made a shared folder and i entered the password for windows but nothing happend
[22:04] <spiouki> where in windows should i look for the file i shared in ubuntu?
[22:04] <soundray> powerplay: you have a ~/.profile -- the ls -l you did earlier shows that it has 674 characters
[22:05] <powerplay> jrib: the person suggested to run this command for the fix: "sudo cd /root/.profile $HOME; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile"
[22:06] <jrib> powerplay: diff -Nurp ~/.profile /etc/skel/.profile
[22:06] <Meris> I could use the Japanese imput method editor under ibus, but some update broke it. As a result of this, The Keyboard Input Methods can not be found any more. All the required packages have been installed afaik. There is an icon of a keyboard in the top-right bar, but right clicking on options in the context menu has no effect whatsoever.
[22:06] <spiouki> where in win 7 can i find the file which i shared in ubuntu?
[22:07] <powerplay> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174745/
[22:08] <dr_willis> powerplay:  the command was 'cp' not 'cd'
[22:08] <dr_willis> powerplay:  do a 'cat .profile' and see if you do in fact have a .profile
[22:08] <jrib> powerplay: « cp /etc/skel/.profile ~ » will give you the default .profile, but I doubt it will affect your issue
[22:09] <soundray> dr_willis: but we know that already from the ls -l
[22:09] <freerobby> Can anybody explain why this works in a shell, but when the torquebox user runs a process via init.d, ulimit -n returns 1024 ? https://gist.github.com/7fff364c0bca20c27aa5
[22:09] <powerplay> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174747/
[22:10] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin your .bashrc
[22:10] <dr_willis> soundray:  it could be empty
[22:10] <jrib> soundray knows its size (/me waits for dr_willis to say it could be whitespace)
[22:10] <freerobby> If nothing else I would expect an arbitrary process to derive from the system limit, which is 8192 (soft)
[22:10] <soundray> dr_willis: then it wouldn't show as having 674 characters, and it wouldn't diff with the one in /etc/skel/ like it has
[22:11] <powerplay> jrib: heres my bashrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174749/
[22:11] <dr_willis> I think its time to drop back to the original problem.
[22:11] <drag0nius> how can i cahnge name in that ln -s?
[22:11] <drag0nius> i've different real folder name than desired link
[22:11] <Jay-> Anyone mind if I ask some foolish new user questions? Haven't used Linux outside of servers :|
[22:12] <dr_willis> Jay-:  go for it.. theres also the Ubuntu manual
[22:12] <dr_willis> !manual
[22:12] <Jay-> Ah thanks. But I wanted to ask some things about the interface, and suggestions for certain alternatives to Windows software
[22:12] <drag0nius> nvm got it
[22:13] <jrib> drag0nius: open a new terminal.  Do you use gnome-terminal?  What's the output of « alias ls »?
[22:13] <dr_willis> Top Unity Tip = press and hold the super (windows) key - to see a list of key shortcuts. ;)
[22:13] <Jay-> Is there any way to have a similar interface to Windows by having a horizontal taskbar at the bottom of the screen?
[22:14] <dr_willis> Jay-:  theres dozens of alternative desktops and interfaces
[22:14] <soundray> jrib: powerplay is having the terminal problem
[22:14] <Sokel> Jay-: Yes. Do not use unity. Problem solved.
[22:14] <jrib> soundray: thanks
[22:14] <dr_willis> Jay-:  lubuntu is  very similer to the old windows 95 look.
[22:14] <jrib> powerplay: open a new terminal.  Do you use gnome-terminal?  What's the output of « alias ls »?
[22:15] <dr_willis> Jay-:  then theres the gnome fallback mode.
[22:15] <dr_willis> Jay-:  or just use one of the many docks to add a panel to the bottom to do whatever you want.
[22:15] <Jay-> Okay, two other questions. I read some lists of IRC client recommendations, but I wanted to hear an opinion from users in here.
[22:15] <powerplay> jrib: how do i figure out if i use gnome terminal? running alias ls give me "not found"
[22:16] <dr_willis> Jay-:  totally depends on your needs.. Xchat for gui and weechat for console/ssh here normally
[22:16] <Jay-> Is there anything minimalist that doesn't sacrifice important function, with clean interface?
[22:16] <jrib> powerplay: heh, sorry I should learn to test things in bash instead of zsh
[22:16] <Ben64> dr_willis: is it possible to use gnome2 and gnome-panel in 12.04?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  gnome-panel yes
[22:16] <powerplay> jrib: no worries
[22:16] <dr_willis> Ben64:  gnome2 is dead - the fallback mode is close.. but i belive its got plans on getting phased out also.
[22:17] <Ben64> what about the other versions of it? Can't recall the name but some people have picked up Gnome2 and are updating it still
[22:17] <jrib> powerplay: run gnome-terminal in your current terminal and see if it looks the same :P
[22:17] <Meris> Ben64, you probably mean cinnamon
[22:17] <dr_willis> Ben64:  not supported by ubuntu.
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  you're in the denial phase, cannot accept gnome2 is dead
[22:18] <dr_willis> Gnome 2 is dead.. time to move on.
[22:18] <Ben64> gnome3 doesn't work for me
[22:18] <piezo> does anybody know if there is a gui for some kind of qos configuration? (i want to mangle nat packets aswell as local packets)
[22:18] <piezo> 3
[22:18] <powerplay> jrib: yup it basically open up another terminal
[22:18] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 and it doesn't spell check anymore, but spell check works on other programmes and the intranet. Why?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  you're living in the past, gnome2 is dead
[22:18] <jrib> powerplay: ok, in that new terminal where you ran "alias ls", what is the output of: ps -ef | grep $$
[22:19] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: don't care if i'm in the past. gnome2 works, gnome3 doesn't
[22:19] <powerplay> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174769/
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  then try to make it work, like it does for the rest of us, with our help, if needed
[22:21] <Ben64> i tried 12.04 and gnome3 for a week, asking questions here, no answers. So I gave up and went back to 10.04. It shouldn't take that much effort to get a functional system
[22:21] <lidar> Ben64, lots of alternatives out there
[22:21] <Meris> Ben64, try XFCE or LXDE
[22:21] <Ben64> They don't have the panel plugins I want
[22:21] <dr_willis> details would help...
[22:21] <jrib> powerplay: you should try dr_willis's idea of adding some echo or touch lines into your .profile and .bashrc
[22:22] <lidar> Ben64, i installed fluxbox for exapmple but as Meris sais xfce and lxde are nice
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  gnome3 isnt what you want, lxde isnt what you want, xfce isnt what you want
[22:22] <dr_willis> Windows 1.0!
[22:22] <Ben64> CPU temp, GPU temp, CPU usage graph, RAM usage graph
[22:22] <Spectacle_K> Can ANYONE help/
[22:22] <Meris> Ben64, LXDE uses OpenBox which is very similar to FluxBox
[22:22] <Ben64> apparently only gnome-panel can do those 4 things
[22:22] <lidar> Ben64, xfce has all of that
[22:22] <powerplay> jrib: once i add the echo lines i just open and close my terminal?
[22:22] <jrib> powerplay: you can just open a new one from the menu
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  you can install gnome-panel in gnome3
[22:23] <jrib> powerplay: remember you want something like "echo profile executed" and "echo bashrc executed"
[22:23] <powerplay> jrib: ok so the syntax is just....echo "blah"
[22:23] <jrib> powerplay: yep
[22:23] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: the theming instantly broke when I did that
[22:23] <powerplay> jrib: ok ill give it a try
[22:23] <lidar> Ben64, you can also run gkrellm .. soo many options out there
[22:23] <Meris> Ben64, gkrellm is modular, very versatile
[22:24] <Mavrik> hmm, does anyone know a reason why "laptop-mode-tools" aren't installed by default? any bad side-effects?
[22:24] <dr_willis> gkrellm is also old skool. :) been around for ages.
[22:24] <drag0nius> is there way to further reduce volume of some device?
[22:24] <drag0nius> even on minimum its like 3 times too loud
[22:25] <jrib> drag0nius: tried pavucontrol and alsamixer?
[22:25] <brenden1> #macosx
[22:25] <soundray> powerplay: I'm off. Hope you can track down the problem -- good luck
[22:25] <exutux> Mavrik: simply because it is an optional package
[22:26] <lidar> Mavrik, manually install it ? it should work fine
[22:26] <powerplay> soundray: ok thank you for all your help and efforts
[22:26] <timespliter> Hi. Does anyone here know how to show the user in channel list on Xchat for Ubuntu Unity?
[22:26] <Spectacle_K> Can SOMEONE please help me with my LibreOffice issue?
[22:26] <Mavrik> lidar, exutux, yeah, I was just wondering what was the reason for removal in 10.04+
[22:26] <jrib> !ask | Spectacle_K
[22:26] <Mavrik> since it causes a noticable difference and I was just wondering if I'm causing problems to other people when I suggest installation :)
[22:26] <powerplay> jrib: i inserted echo statements on the top of both the files but not getting any output when i open up a new terminal
[22:27] <dr_willis> timespliter:  sometimes the list on the right  side gets 'resized' where its just 1 pixle wide. mouse over to the right edge and look for the cursor to change,, also check the menus to be sure its not hidden,
[22:27] <jrib> powerplay: you added them after the line that starts with #!, right?
[22:27] <dr_willis> I always hide the list anyway. ;)
[22:27] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 and it has stopped spell checking my documents. But spell check works in other programmes. How can I restore spell check to LibreOffice?
[22:27] <drag0nius> how can i set custom volume in alsamixer?
[22:27] <drag0nius> theres -77 db gain possibly by a bug but i'd still like to make it a little less
[22:27] <w0rm> hello nerds
[22:27] <Meris> dragO
[22:28] <lidar> Mavrik, in theory no package from the official repos should cause conflicts .. however if soemthing comes up its usually fixable
[22:28] <jrib> drag0nius: you could try amixer from the command line
[22:28] <powerplay> jrib: there is no line that starts with #!
[22:28] <jrib> powerplay: ok
[22:28] <geudrik> powerplay: do you know what language it's written in?
[22:29] <jrib> powerplay: for fun, run "bash -l" in your current shell and report what happens
[22:29] <Meris> drag0nius, try starting a terminal and starting alsamixer. Do you see a "Master" bar?
[22:29] <powerplay> geudrik: cant really tell
[22:29] <qw12> how do i make the output of cron scripts emailed to root ?
[22:29] <powerplay> jrib: nothing happenas
[22:30] <jrib> qw12: I think you just need an mta installed (ubuntu doesn't have one by default)
[22:30] <drag0nius> yeah its on 0 :P
[22:30] <drag0nius> and gain is -77
[22:30] <powerplay> jrib: if i run "bash -" and then run ls command then i do get the color coded output
[22:30] <geudrik> qw12: # apt-get install postfix
[22:30] <drag0nius> but i still wanna more
[22:30] <TierraTij> Is DonkeyHotei/Faqtotum here?
[22:30] <jrib> powerplay: you're not getting your echo outputs from either "bash -l" or "bash -"?
[22:31] <TierraTij> nvm
[22:31] <krababbel> drag0nius: that's probably set in hardware
[22:31] <Meris> drag0nius, you mean "less"...What does it say next to Card in AlsaMixer?
[22:31] <powerplay> oh i took out the echo outputs
[22:31] <powerplay> jrib: lemme insert them again and try again
[22:31] <krababbel> drag0nius: try pulseaudio maybe
[22:31] <dr_willis> example .bashrc with echo statement near the top --> pastebinit  .bashrc
[22:31] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174784/
[22:31] <Jimmy_Chunga> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 lts and usually at the login screen it will show the desktop background of the user. i turned on the computer one day and instead of showing my background it showed the default background instead. why is this? can i fix it?
[22:32] <drag0nius> i've audiotrak prodigy hd2
[22:32] <drag0nius> but its still too loud xD
[22:32] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  where is your background file saved to?
[22:32] <drag0nius> could i hack it somehow so the slider has like -200 db by default? xD
[22:32] <powerplay> jrib: ya not getting any outputs at all
[22:32] <Jimmy_Chunga> it's in a hidden file in the home directory.
[22:32] <jrib> powerplay: that's pretty weird...
[22:32] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  check permissions on it perhaps.
[22:32] <Jimmy_Chunga> k, what am i looking for in permissions?
[22:32] <powerplay> jrib: that means that these files are not even being read right?
[22:32] <jrib> powerplay: you're not using sudo for any of this, right?
[22:33] <powerplay> jrib: nope
[22:33] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: what am i looking for exactly?
[22:33] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  see what permissions it has..
[22:33] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  is your home encrypted also?
[22:33] <powerplay> jrib: anything else i can try or does this seem like a bug>
[22:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: i don't know, how do i check? it used to show my backgrounds, but now it won't.
[22:34] <dr_willis> powerplay:  make a new user.. see if it affects them
[22:34] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  ls -l filename   to see permissions....
[22:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: forgive me, but what do you mean?
[22:35] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  to see what permissions are on a file you use the 'ls -l' command
[22:35] <dr_willis> !permissions
[22:35] <Meris> drag0nius, if you want to hack into the alsa setting, you can better look into: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[22:35] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin: strace bash -l |& grep '/\.'
[22:35] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: ok, what now?
[22:36] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  and what are the permissions of the file?
[22:36] <Kevin1a> I'm having an issue with my sound stuttering, cutting out, buzzing, etc.  Tried most of the normal ideas already.  It happens in Ubuntu and Windows which makes me think hardware, but it happens with multiple different soundcards which makes me think software.  I tried different speakers and cables so it has to be in the computer or software itself.  Any suggestions on things I can try next?
[22:36] <powerplay> jrib: i get this " open("/home/miker/.bash_profile", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
[22:37] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: the file? i'm sorry, i'm really new to ubuntu, i have no clue. i just entered the command and it's giving me drwxr on various files like 'desktop', 'documents', etc.
[22:37] <jrib> powerplay: that can't be the only output you get, is it?
[22:37] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  and  the file you are using as your wallpaper.. whats its name.. and what permissions are on it?
[22:37] <powerplay> jrib: thats all i get then it hangs
[22:37] <jrib> powerplay: you can type "exit" and hit enter to quit it.  Pastebin ~/.bash_profile
[22:38] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  the exact command 'ls -al whateveryourimagefilenameis' should tell you the exact info to be looking at.
[22:38] <Meris> Gotta sleep now. Bye everyone
[22:38] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: read and write under 'owner'
[22:38] <powerplay> jrib: bash profile is empty
[22:38] <jrib> powerplay: rename it (or just delete it)
[22:38] <exutux> bash_profile doesn't exist by default I think
[22:39] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: so the file name is Flowing Rock.jpg
[22:39] <powerplay> jrib: okay i deleted it
[22:39] <exutux> if you want customize your shell prompt you have to modify .bashrc
[22:39] <jrib> powerplay: run « bash -l ».  Do your echo statements show up now?
[22:39] <powerplay> jrib: those arrows are not part of the command right?
[22:39] <jrib> powerplay: right
[22:39] <dr_willis> I thought if .bash_profile existes it does not parse the other .bash* configs
[22:40] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: i'm trying the command but it's saying it cannot access because of no such file or directory.
[22:40] <jrib> dr_willis: that's my thought now, yes
[22:40] <exutux> dr_willis: right
[22:40] <lsv> anyone here a grub wizard?
[22:40] <exutux> dr_willis: but you have to create manually it
[22:40] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  I suggest avoidding spaces in file names.. they just cause issues..   use single quotes around files with spaces in the names as a work around
[22:40] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  ls -l 'the file name.jpg'
[22:41] <powerplay> jrib: nope still no luck :)(
[22:41] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: it says no such file or directory
[22:41] <powerplay> jrib: :(
[22:41] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: is it because i moved these pictures from another computer?
[22:41] <exutux> bash_profile is a local file, and bashrc it's global
[22:41] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin: strace bash -l |& grep '/\.'
[22:42] <drag0nius> hmm
[22:42] <drag0nius> steam does not follow that ln -s link
[22:42] <drag0nius> on ubuntu at least
[22:42] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  whats the exact ls command you are using?
[22:42] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: ls -l 'Flowing Rock.jpg'
[22:43] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: "ls: cannot access Flowing Rock.jpg: No such file or directory"
[22:43] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:   and what directory are you in? what directory is the file in? 'pwd' or the prompt shows your current directory
[22:43] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  and the TAB key can be used to auto complete file names.
[22:44] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: "xxxx@xxxx-HP-G62-Notebook-PC:~$"
[22:44] <Newtoubuntu> what is the task manager equivalent on ubuntu using the keyboard?
[22:44] <lsv> I just updated to 12.04.1 and have some troubles starting up using normal boot (display won't start) and recovery mode gives me a low resolution display.  I think this has to do with some of grub's options.  Any ideas?  Help.
[22:44] <powerplay> jrib: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174798/
[22:45] <k3rn3l_klink> what's the scoop on 12.04 LTS?  Should I install now or wait a bit until the community works some bugs out?
[22:45] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: the file is under a hidden folder in the home directory called '.Customization'
[22:45] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin ~/.bash_login
[22:45] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: yes i had the same problem. ill send you a link soon
[22:45] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: Thanks
[22:45] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  then you need to check the permissions of that directory and the file.
[22:45] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: how do i do that?\
[22:45] <lsv> k3rn3l_klink: maybe wait?
[22:46] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  via the ls command like we have been using. It may be a good idea to go spend an half hour reading some bash tutorials.
[22:46] <powerplay> jrib: [[ -s "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] && source "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" # Load RVM into a shell session *as a function*
[22:46] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900024 post number 6. Was a major pain with me as well.
[22:46] <k3rn3l_klink> lsv: not sure I understand your "question".
[22:46] <dr_willis> ls -l .Custm<tab key>/Flo<TabKey>
[22:46] <jrib> powerplay: for now just rename the file while we troubleshoot.  Later you may want to move that to .bashrc (or .profile as appropriate)
[22:46] <Newtoubuntu> how can i exit a program that wont close normally?
[22:46] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: ok, but... so it's under the hom directory so i'd do 'ls -l' and then the directory?
[22:47] <powerplay> jrib: so rename both bashrc and profile?
[22:47] <nsmgo> asking for help debugging why i'm getting 404 on a fresh nginx/php/mysql install using this guide: http://blog.swiftbyte.com/linux/how-to-install-nginx-php-fpm-and-mysql-on-ubuntu/
[22:47] <jrib> powerplay: no, rename ~/.bash_login and nothing else
[22:47] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  its Not in your Home direcotry - you just said its in the .Customization directory.
[22:48] <dr_willis> ls -l .Customization   or ls -ld .Customization
[22:48] <k3rn3l_klink> is it a good idea to update to 12.04 LTS now?
[22:48] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: yes, in the home directory in .Customization
[22:48] <powerplay> jrib: ok done
[22:48] <histo> k3rn3l_klink: yes it's fine
[22:48] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: the folder is in home
[22:48] <Bodsda> Hi, I have a working ubuntu installation on /dev/sda1 and also have a blank hdd with just an ext4 filesystem (no data) on /dev/sdc1, how can I install say another ubunu system (or other distro) to /dev/sdc1 without using any removable media (cd or usb)?
[22:48] <k3rn3l_klink> histo: thanks, dude.
[22:48] <lsv> k3rn3l_klink: after upgrade, normal boot makes my display stay blank/black.  I can get a low resolution display after selecting recovery mode from grub menu.
[22:48] <jrib> powerplay: bash -l, check for echo lines
[22:48] <histo> k3rn3l_klink: I upgraded two of my servers without hitches
[22:49] <histo> lsv: you need proper video drivers
[22:49] <histo> !install > Bodsda
[22:49] <powerplay> jrib: yesssss success it printed out!
[22:49] <dr_willis> Bodsda:  you can set up grub2 to boot ISO files with a little work.
[22:49] <jrib> powerplay: try opening a new terminal
[22:49] <dr_willis> Bodsda:  depending on what it is you want to install.
[22:49] <histo> Bodsda: You can use debootstrap to install ubuntu over the network on the other drive
[22:50] <powerplay> jrib: yayy the new terminal has the color coded ls lisitngs :)
[22:50] <Bodsda> histo: dr_willis - cheers guys
[22:50] <jrib> powerplay: assuming you still want rvm, check the documentation to see if you can add it to the bottom of your .profile or .bashrc (I don't know what rvm does and which is more appropriate)
[22:51] <powerplay> jrib: ok will do and rvm is a manager for ruby programming language https://rvm.io/
[22:51] <soman> Hi all. I want to build library in debug and release (2xconfigure, 2xmake) Do I need 'make install' 2 times or just once at end to install debug and release?
[22:54] <histo> Bodsda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[22:55] <powerplay> jrib: found this online http://marc-bowes.com/2012/04/15/rvm-breaking-your-bashrc.html
[22:55] <powerplay> jrib: not sure if its the best way solution tho
[22:55] <jrib> powerplay: heh
[22:55] <trashdeb> Hello. I'm trying to dual-boot Ubuntu using WUBI. I have installed Ubuntu using WUBI on a fresh install of Windows 7. If I shut down my laptop and boot Ubuntu, it works. But once I've started Windows again, I can't start Ubuntu anymore. The following errors appear: "try (hd0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" "Try (hd0,1): NTFS5: error: "prefix" is not set.", after which the GRUB command prompt is shown.
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[22:56] <Newtoubuntu> how do i close a program that wont close normally?
[22:56] <daemon> killall / kill
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  alt-f2 xkill
[22:57] <freerobby> I apologize for repeating questions but I've pined through hundreds of threads on the ubuntu forums/docs and I just can't find anything on this. I can get ulimit -n to work fine in a shell (https://gist.github.com/7fff364c0bca20c27aa5), but never to hold a value for an upstart process. Does anybody know how to set the ulimit values for processes that are not spawned in a bash shell?
[22:57] <jrib> freerobby: I have no idea if it addresses your question, but have you checked the upstart cookbook?
[22:57] <freerobby> jrib: I have.
[22:58] <jrib> freerobby: there's a #upstart here on freenode that may be able to help
[22:58] <Newtoubuntu> MonkeyDust, thanks. that is an awesome method used on this OS
[22:58] <freerobby> jrib: Ubuntu appears not to be honoring my /etc/default/ubuntu values, but I have no idea why.
[22:58] <trashdeb> Newtoubuntu: Go to System Monitor -> Processes. Select your program and kill it.
[22:58] <freerobby> jrib: Thanks, I'll ask there. I don't think it's an upstart issue though.
[22:58] <Newtoubuntu> trashdeb, thanks.
[22:58] <freerobby> I think upstart is just an example of something that isn't getting spawned from a shell.
[22:58] <histo> Newtoubuntu: from terminal you can kill someprogramname if it's really hung up you can use kill -9 someprogramname
[22:59] <trashdeb> Newtoubuntu: np, good luck.
[22:59] <Newtoubuntu> histo: thanks.
[22:59] <jrib> freerobby: how are you setting the ulimit?
[22:59] <trashdeb> though kill -9 is very much not recommended from what I've heard..
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  mind: xkill kills the graphical interface, not the process
[22:59] <gordonjcp> trashdeb: well, it depends
[22:59] <gordonjcp> trashdeb: it may leave things in an uncertain state
[23:00] <gordonjcp> trashdeb: what's really not recommended is running stuff that needs to be kill -9'ed
[23:00] <freerobby> jrib: I've tried a few things. Set high system limits in /etc/security/limits.conf. Tried making a /etc/default/ubuntu that set it. Also tried setting it directly in the upstart file.
[23:01] <Newtoubuntu> gordonjcp,  what is the normal method to just kill a single program then?
[23:01] <jrib> freerobby: did you see if it made a difference whether the service starts at boot or later on?  (So for example stop the service and then start it again after the boot process is over)
[23:02] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: gonna try it now.  I'll be back.
[23:02] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: cool. let me know
[23:02] <tushar> hello?
[23:02] <tushar> is there any one?
[23:03] <trashdeb> tushar: yes. just ask your question.
[23:03] <gordonjcp> Newtoubuntu: normally it should close when asked
[23:03] <freerobby> jrib: Yes, it fails in both cases.
[23:03] <gordonjcp> Newtoubuntu: it does very much depend on what the program is though
[23:03] <tushar> i need a software
[23:03] <trashdeb> tushar: what software?
[23:03] <powerplay> jrib: my rvm commands still work fine, just wanted to know is it necessary to have the bash_login or can i just leave it renamed?
[23:04] <jrib> powerplay: you can leave it renamed
[23:04] <tushar> that can help me log in to multiple account
[23:04] <tushar> like facebook
[23:04] <tushar> msn
[23:04] <tushar> yahoo
[23:04] <tushar> google
[23:04] <FloodBot1> tushar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <tushar> etc
[23:04] <powerplay> jrib: oh so i will never need it in the future?
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> tushar  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:04] <trashdeb> tushar: multiple accounts on what?
[23:04] <jrib> powerplay: it's basically like another .profile but with a different name
[23:04] <Newtoubuntu> is there a program similar to netwatcher which allows you to see who is on your wifi? i dont prefer to use wireshark.
[23:04] <jrib> freerobby: there's some discussion here http://serverfault.com/questions/195655/squid-running-out-of-file-descriptors-on-ubuntu though the user is on 10.04
[23:05] <Jimmy_Chunga> if i check to see if something is encrypted, what does it mean if it is in blue text?
[23:05] <powerplay> jrib: i see well thanks a lot for youre help i really really reaally really appreciate it!!!!
[23:05] <jrib> powerplay: no problem
[23:05] <jrib> freerobby: maybe give more details about what you are doing if you can
[23:05] <trashdeb> tushar: There isn't 1 software for all the networks. With Pidgin you can use multiple internet messaging accounts at the same time (Google Chat, Facebook Chat, Live Messenger, Yahoo, etc.)
[23:05] <powerplay> jrib: any books/reading u can recommend for me to get more familiar with this unix stiff?
[23:06] <jrib> !rute | powerplay
[23:06] <tushar> pidgin is not userfriendly
[23:06] <jrib> powerplay: the rute book is very comprehensive
[23:06] <trashdeb> Newtoubuntu: You can see who's on your network by logging into your router too. That might not be what you are looking for, but I'm just saying ;)
[23:06] <trashdeb> tushar: To what accounts do you want to be logged in?
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> tushar  i.e.: you don't like pidgin
[23:06] <powerplay> ubottu: thanks
[23:06] <tushar> ya i dont like it
[23:07] <powerplay> ubottu: wow im talking to a bot how cool
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> tushar  try empathy
[23:07] <tushar> ok empathy
[23:07] <trashdeb> tushar: To what accounts do you want to be logged in at the same time?
[23:07] <moosen> how do i decrypt my home folder?
[23:08] <trashdeb> moosen: I've done that successfully before using a post from stackoverflow.
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> !encrypt > moosen
[23:08] <tushar> that is yahoo skype msn facebook gmail
[23:08] <freerobby> jrib: May have found the solution here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#limit It looks like upstart has its own way of doing limits; oddly unmentioned in any of the upstart tutorials i saw
[23:08] <jrib> freerobby: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#limit seems relevant too
[23:08] <freerobby> ha
[23:08] <jrib> freerobby: ha.
[23:08] <jrib> ,,,
[23:08] <freerobby> oh man
[23:08] <freerobby> where do you even take that?
[23:08] <tushar> trashdeb that is yahoo skype msn facebook gmail
[23:08] <powerplay> jrib: awesome thanks
[23:08] <jrib> freerobby: I came across http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/v5FspALFu8N9fFxc8vPw
[23:08] <nOde> Hi, I need some help. I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my dell laptop a few days back. But whenever I choose ubuntu, the fan speed increases so much that I can even hear the sound. I've not installed any external graphics card. The one I have is Intel 4000.
[23:09] <trashdeb> tushar: There is no third-party application for Skype as far as I'm aware.
[23:09] <moosen> ubottu: I don't understand how this helps me.
[23:09] <freerobby> jrib: I appreciate the help, think I'm close enough to get the rest of the way on my own
[23:09] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: I think that did it.  Thanks.
[23:09] <jrib> freerobby: cool, good luck
[23:09] <nOde> Could someone help me?
[23:09] <tushar> trashdeb its souond not good
[23:09] <trashdeb> tushar: Yahoo, MSN, Facebook and Gmail are all supported by Pidgin.
[23:09] <moosen> so how do I decrypt my home folder?
[23:09] <trashdeb> moosen: Please PM me, I can help you.
[23:10] <nOde> If anyone can help me,
[23:10] <trashdeb> moosen: See pm.
[23:10] <nOde>  I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my dell laptop a few days back. But whenever I choose ubuntu, the fan speed increases so much that I can even hear the sound. I've not installed any external graphics card. The one I have is Intel 4000.
[23:10] <trashdeb> n0de: Maybe. Just ask your question :)
[23:10] <jrib> !encryption | moosen
[23:10] <Newtoubuntu> ubottu needs a grammar upgrade XD
[23:10] <tushar> trashdeb i cant login in facebook and yahoo by pidgin
[23:11] <jrib> Newtoubuntu: tell him :)
[23:11] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: no problem. did you have in issue with brightness at all?
[23:11] <trashdeb> tushar: I'm sorry but I'm helping moosen now. Please wait for a while.
[23:12] <tushar> ok
[23:12] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: I thought it was another thing but apparently the brightness was the problem.
[23:12] <tushar> thank u so much
[23:13] <tushar> trashdeb where r u grom?
[23:13] <tushar> trashdeb where r u from?
[23:13] <tushar> trashdeb i am also a java student
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> tushar  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:14] <tushar> trashdeb i need a compiler
[23:14] <tushar> to practice
[23:14] <tushar> can u help me out
[23:14] <tushar> ?
[23:15] <h00k> tushar: you can try ##java
[23:15] <tushar> join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:15] <tushar> bash: /join: No such file or directory
[23:15] <tushar> hook sure
[23:15] <trashdeb> tushar: I don't know much about compilers or Java, sorry.
[23:15] <trashdeb> tushar: Are you trying to log into Facebook or Facebook Chat?
[23:15] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: well i now have full res and can actually boot without the nomodeset option but i havnt been able to fix my brightness issue.
[23:15] <tushar> ya
[23:15] <silverarrow> hi
[23:15] <MonkeyDust> tushar  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:16] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: my last attempt landed me at that dreaded blank boot screen again
[23:16] <h00k> tushar: Do that on your IRC application, not a terminal.
[23:16] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: oh :(  My brightness somewhat works
[23:16] <tushar> bash: /join: No such file or directory
[23:16] <trashdeb> tushar: That's not an answer. Do you want to see your Timeline or do you want to chat with your Facebook friends? You can only chat with your Facebook friends using Pidgin.
[23:17] <tushar> chat
[23:17] <goddard> im planning on buying some bluetooth speakers for my laptop any recommendations?
[23:17] <trashdeb> Okay. Then Pidgin should work.
[23:17] <trashdeb> tushar
[23:17] <tushar> yes?
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> tushar  here in the channel, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:17] <trashdeb> tushar: Can you PM me?
[23:17] <tushar> let me try
[23:18] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: Its ridiculous really. I almost gave up on Ubuntu :(
[23:18] <tushar> i am all new in linux
[23:18] <tushar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:18] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: have you tried any other linux distros?
[23:19] <tushar> hook?
[23:19] <lsv> to compile a Java program: javac main_java_file.java
[23:19] <tushar> hook? where i have to type ##java?
[23:19] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: no because i literally had the same boot issue with an older version of ubuntu. i have also seen on forums some fedora users experiencing the same problem.
[23:19] <lsv> then to run the program: java main_java_file
[23:20] <lsv> if I am not mistaken.
[23:20] <tushar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:21] <nOde>  I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my dell laptop a few days back. But whenever I choose ubuntu, the fan speed increases so much that I can even hear the sound. I've not installed any external graphics card. The one I have is Intel 4000.
[23:21] <histo> tushar: /join ##java in your irc window
[23:24] <RustyShackleford> My internet (connected through ethernet) is acting wonky
[23:24] <RustyShackleford> however, it works fine under windows
[23:24] <RustyShackleford> I'm getting frequent dns lookup failures
[23:25] <nOde> lol I'm not getting any help here
[23:25] <goddard> im planning on buying some bluetooth speakers for my laptop any recommendations?
[23:26] <nOde> Better to post it on ubuntu forum
[23:27] <dr_willis> or askubuntu.com
[23:27] <dr_willis> best is to search those sites  :) then post.
[23:27] <Daghdha> i always just make a new post.
[23:28] <Daghdha> They like that
[23:28] <Daghdha> The moderators, realy gives them a sense of purpose.
[23:28] <nOde> Thank you dr_jesus
[23:28] <nOde> dr_willis*
[23:29] <Super_Dog> Anybody done an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS on Ubuntu?  Just showed up as a viable upgrade option in the last week or so.
[23:30] <Daghdha> Hmm, wasn't there when i upgraded
[23:30] <Daghdha> Had to go trough 11
[23:30] <Daghdha> iirc
[23:30] <compdoc> Super_Dog, I see some ppl mentioning it in the mailing list
[23:31] <Super_Dog> What mailing list are you talking about?
[23:31] <compdoc> the ubuntu support mailing list
[23:31] <Super_Dog> You have a URL for that?
[23:31] <compdoc> you can get more detailed support using it
[23:31] <Super_Dog> I'm on the forums and stuff.  Didn't know they had a "mailing list"...
[23:32] <compdoc> http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[23:32] <Super_Dog> (Super_Dog has limited brain bandwidth... :-)
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> Super_Dog  type /me blah
[23:32] <tushar> can any one tell me where i can write my java code for practice?
[23:33] <tushar> please?
[23:33] <compdoc> Super_Dog, hold on, theres a better page
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> tushar  in this channel, type /join #java       that is with the slash
[23:33] <tushar> can any one tell me where i can write my java code for practice?
[23:34] <compdoc> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists     and click on  ubuntu-users
[23:34] <Super_Dog> Holy crap batman....  That's a lot of lists.
[23:34] <compdoc> ^
[23:34] <tushar> monkeydust: nothing happnen
[23:34] <Chaser> Super_Dog, I did. It was fine except for some pop up dialog boxes with alien characters during the upgrade. I hit what I thought was OK button and it went on.
[23:35] <Super_Dog> Chaser... Do you have a LAMP installation on your desktop?
[23:35] <harris> i am running ubuntu 12.04 but instead of unity i am in mint how do i remove the bottom bar so that the only dock is docky
[23:35] <Chaser> Super_Dog, sorry nope
[23:35] <Super_Dog> Particularly interested in how 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade will go with LAMP.
[23:35] <tushar> monkeydust: ?
[23:36] <Super_Dog> Guess I better clone this sucker just in case the worst happens before I try the upgrade.
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> tushar  !
[23:36] <Daghdha> Well, i trust you will 1st make a backup
[23:36] <tushar> monkeydust: nothing happen
[23:36] <dr_willis> harris:  if you are using 'mint' you should be in the mint support channels.
[23:36] <histo> This is interesting booting ubuntu cd in virtualbox. I cannot resolve dns queries but I can ping inet addresses by ip. I've tried both NAT and Bridged mode for network settings for the vm.
[23:36] <Chaser> Super_Dog, thats a good idea even if otherwise
[23:36] <histo> I can confirm that in bridged mode all my dns servers pulled are those that the host machine is running
[23:37] <Super_Dog> Chaser:  But your 10.04LTS to 12.04.1 LTS upgrade went smoothly other than some weird alien characters?
[23:37] <Chaser> yup !
[23:37] <harris> what is the mint channel
[23:37] <harris> ! mint
[23:37] <Super_Dog> Chaser: You running 12.04 LTS right now with satisfactory upgrade?  You didn't have to re-install from scratch.
[23:38] <zokk> hmm how do i switch from xubuntu load/login screen to ubuntu/unity ?
[23:38] <Newtoubuntu> mint cinnamon
[23:38] <Newtoubuntu> yum
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> tushar  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#GNU_Compiler_for_Java
[23:39] <Chaser> Super_Dog, thats correct. Its a desktop but have been using it as build machine.
[23:39] <Newtoubuntu> Is there a way i can replace the position of my Operating Sytems order at the grub menu?
[23:39] <Super_Dog> Cool... Running 12.04 LTS on some other machines over here but I know that the support runs out in April so I want to bite the bullet and just go for it.
[23:40] <Super_Dog> All the other machines I'm running with 12.04 were virgin drive installs and not upgrades.
[23:40] <Chaser> I am sticking to 10.04 till support ends for my laptop though.
[23:41] <dr_willis> Newtoubuntu:  by altering the /etc/default/grub or the /etc/grub.d files
[23:41] <Super_Dog> I actually am running 12.04 on my laptop and upgraded through the whole cycle - 10.04 -->11.04 -->11.10 --> 12.04.
[23:41] <Spectacle_K> Does anyone know how to make a list of all the installed programmes on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation so that I can just simply restore them on a fresh install of Ubuntu? So I don't have to go through the Software Centre and reinstall them all individually.
[23:41] <Super_Dog> I guess I just got lucky with that one.
[23:41] <dr_willis> !clone | Spectacle_K
[23:42] <dr_willis> but that factoid is a bit out of date.. your eally sholdent be using aptitude these days.,
[23:42] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: And this will back up all my programmes so that I can reinstall them all at once?
[23:42] <Ben64> Super_Dog: the upgrades usually work. I went from Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy -> Lucid
[23:42] <dr_willis> it makes a LIST of the installed packages.
[23:42] <Super_Dog> The desktop I'm running has a sweet install of AjaxPlorer with a LAMP stack and that's why I've been hesitant to mess with it until the 12.04 LTS upgrade path was released to the public.
[23:42] <Newtoubuntu> how do i gain root access?
[23:42] <Chaser> Super_Dog, I remember having to tweak xchat2 profile when I upgraded from 8.04 -> 10.04 on my laptop but other than that it was smooth as far as I can remember.
[23:42] <dr_willis> !sudo | Newtoubuntu
[23:42] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: and can I use this list to restore my apps all at once so I don't have to install them individually through the software centre?
[23:43] <dr_willis> Spectacle_K:  the use of aptitude is not reccomended these days
[23:43] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: And why is that?
[23:43] <dr_willis> Spectacle_K:  once you have that list in a text file. you could make your own script to install them
[23:43] <dr_willis> !aptitude
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  here's what I did: made a manual list of all installed, abiword, preload etc etc and put it in a text file // I just have to install it by copy/paste in a terminal
[23:43] <Super_Dog> I had some spotty upgrades in the past and that's why I'm a little nervous...  I was thinking the LTS to LTS upgrade (10.04 -->12.04) should be a little more solid.
[23:44] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: MonkeyDust how do I do this?
[23:44] <dr_willis> i alwyas  just do clean installs.. but i do test/install tons and tons of junk i try out once.
[23:44] <blackshirt> super_dog, why do you feel nervous?
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  manually :)
[23:44] <Ben64> Super_Dog: 12.04 is very different from 10.04, but the upgrade itself should work fine
[23:45] <Spectacle_K> This is what I don't want to do. I have a lot of programmes installed and going through them one by one takes too long. I just want to be able to install them all at once, or automatically.
[23:45] <trashdeb> dr_willis: Yes, you could make your own script, but I don't think Spectacle_K has the knowledge to do that.
[23:45] <trashdeb> dr_willis: Could he make a list of all the applications he has now and do "apt-get install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 PACKAGE3 PACKAGEETC" when he is on his fresh install?
[23:45] <Spectacle_K> So I can walk away from the computer and come back to the installed programmes?
[23:45] <dr_willis> Spectacle_K:  once you get a list.. you make a script with a lot of 'apt-get install whatever' from that list.
[23:45] <Super_Dog> Because interim release upgrades on some hardware have not gone as well for me.  But I must confess that the most recent upgrades have been much better.
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  then try apt-on cd, it creates a list too, in an iso file
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  that's aptoncd
[23:46] <Super_Dog> Some of the 8.X to 9.X and 9.X to 10.X upgrades a few years ago were particularly nasty...
[23:46] <blackshirt> spectacle_k, what do you mean?
[23:46] <Ben64> Super_Dog: you could back up first in case things go awry
[23:46] <harushimo> is there a way to do a purge remove of an application in ubuntu
[23:46] <harushimo> I forgot the command
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  catch, if you did apt-get clean, you can no longer use aptoncd
[23:46] <Ben64> harushimo: apt-get purge
[23:47] <krios> anyone got xmonad on ubuntu?
[23:47] <Spectacle_K> blackshirt: I mean I just want to be able to do a clean install, run a script or whatever and it starts installing all the apps and programmes I had on Ubuntu before the reinstall. That way I don't have to manually click install in the software centre for each programme.
[23:47] <harushimo> thank you
[23:47] <jrib> !anyone | krios
[23:47] <Spectacle_K> I apologise and thanks for your patience everyone I just apparently have no clue when it comes to advanced Ubuntu stuff.
[23:47] <lovesvolt> I got a Asus G75vw, GTX670m with no integrated gfx. When I try to install Ubuntu it finishing the install, but at first boot the screen goes purple and then "crashes" into lines in different colors. I think i need drivers to my GPU but since I can't get any picture at all I don't know how to install them. HALP!
[23:48] <Super_Dog> Yeah... Any particular imaging / cloning procedure you guys like before I upgrade here?  I was thinking of stealing more space away from the Windows Server installed on this box by resizing the drive partitions with GParted.
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  that's not advanced ubuntu stuff, that's called a backup
[23:48] <blackshirt> spectacle_k, you can dpkg-repack your programs
[23:48] <Spectacle_K> Well it's advanced for me X3
[23:48] <Super_Dog> ConeZilla?  DD? Anything else?
[23:48] <Spectacle_K> blackshirt: And how do I do that?
[23:48] <blackshirt> and install thats you want
[23:49] <blackshirt> you should install dpkg-repack first
[23:49] <Spectacle_K> I just want my programmes to install automatically without me having to click 'install' on each one.
[23:50] <blackshirt> and then you can use dpkg-repack to repackage the programs installed
[23:50] <ridor> hi
[23:51] <ridor> my ubuntu strats slowly because it take a time whith message "waiting for network confguration"
[23:51] <ridor> how i resolve it ?
[23:52] <blackshirt> i think you don't need all of the packages, because of from clean install a lo ot packages has been installed
[23:52] <BlueEagle> if you google ubuntu network background you'll find useful info.
[23:53] <ridor> how i disable network configuration at the startup
[23:53] <ridor> have you a link internet ?
[23:53] <blackshirt> I think you just want some special programs had been installed before and you want use it on new system
[23:53] <ridor> i have SAMBA and ssh server
[23:54] <budric> Hi, can someone tell me how to install a sound card?  I've tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting.  I have alsa-* installed, with a bunch of modules.  But the module for my sound card isn't loaded.  My particular sound card is ALC887-VD2
[23:54] <blackshirt> ridor, are you using ubuntu server?
[23:54] <BlueEagle> you shouldn't disable it and I'm on my phone so I won't google for you
[23:54] <ridor> no blackshirt
[23:54] <ridor> ubuntu 12.04
[23:56] <ridor> it is not the connection wiref connect automaticly ??
[23:56] <harushimo> how do I check the memory of my root partition on the command line?
[23:56] <ridor> wired*3
[23:56] <budric> harushimo: df-h
[23:56] <budric> harushimo: df -h
[23:56] <ridor> blackshirt ?
[23:57] <harushimo> ok
[23:57] <harushimo> how do I check for unused programs on the root partition?
[23:57] <blackshirt> harushimo, what do you mean?
[23:57] <budric> harushimo: deborphaned package, or wajig can sort installed packages by size
[23:57] <blackshirt> harushimo, what do you mean with unused programs?
[23:57] <harushimo> for some odd reason, I'm using 98 % of my root partition
[23:58] <BlueEagle> harush: check the executable bit and filesystem atime.
[23:58] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[23:58] <blackshirt> yes ridor
[23:58] <BlueEagle> haruah: find
[23:58] <budric> harushimo: check /var/crash may have some core dumps in there
[23:58] <blackshirt> ridor, is your network using dhcp?
[23:58] <harushimo> ok
[23:59] <harushimo> it has some core dumps
[23:59] <harushimo> in the var/crash directory
[23:59] <ridor> yes in wifi
[23:59] <aaaaas> i have a problem with my graphic driver: it says that the driver is activated but not currently in use
[23:59] <harushimo> should I delete those
[23:59] <budric> you can erase those
[23:59] <harushimo> alright
[23:59] <budric> ls -lh /var/crash will show you their size
[23:59] <harushimo> thank you