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elfygot the new settings manager here now it seems - bit of an issue - why has synaptic disappeared? I can see not having it in the manager if synaptic is going to disappear - but how come it's not in the system menu still ?08:11
knomeelfy, synaptic is not in the seeds anymore08:12
elfyuninstallable completely?08:12
knomeelfy, you can install it from the repositories08:12
knomeno, just removed from the default xubuntu seed08:12
elfythat's not what I'm saying 08:13
elfyaudacious isn't in the default - install it and you get a menu item - why is synaptic not getting a menu item at all?08:13
knomei don't know. audacious being there is a bug then.08:13
elfy?08:14
knomeif audacious is not installed, then it's menu icon should not appear in the settings manager08:14
knomeirs08:14
knome*its08:14
elfyknome: sorry - translation issues - I'll try again08:14
knomek08:15
elfyinstall audacious and it gets a menu item where you expect to see it, install synaptic and I would expect to see it in system08:15
elfyit's disappeared completely after the settings manager changes 08:15
elfydoes that make more sense to you :)08:16
knomeyes08:16
elfyknome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/104315108:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1043151 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Synaptic missing from menu" [Undecided,New]08:29
knomeelfy, so, to make sure; does synaptic appear *anywhere* ?08:36
elfyno08:36
knomeok, good08:36
elfyoh hang on 08:37
elfyit's been disabled if you go to alacarte08:37
elfyand doesn't let you re-enable it 08:37
elfyI'll add that info to the bug report08:38
knomeyup08:38
elfyk - done08:40
knomethanks08:42
knomepleia2, uhuh09:03
olbihello09:08
olbisome1 know if Linux 3.6 will be in final release?09:08
knomekernelfreeze is on oct 4, but xubuntu uses the kernel ubuntu has, so better ask somewhere else, like #ubuntu-kernel09:10
knomebut i don't think major release upgrade is going to happen at this time09:10
mr_pouitmmh, is it a big deal if synaptic is missing?09:19
mr_pouitAny desktop file with Category=Settings;PackageManager;System; will be missing anyway09:19
knomehey mr_pouit :)09:20
mr_pouitochosi: I can blacklist desktop files (<Filename>foo.desktop</Filename>), or categories, or almost anything09:21
mr_pouithey there09:21
elfymr_pouit: well it is if you install it and then it disappears :)09:21
mr_pouityeah, I'll fix that09:28
elfyas long as that doesn't mean remove it from the repos :D09:28
elfyI perfectly understand and agree with it not being in the settings manager - makes complete sense 09:29
smartboyhwknome: Nice wallpaper on the email you just sent09:36
knomemr_pouit, bug #104317609:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1043176 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Update lightdm "computer" icon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104317609:38
knomemr_pouit, bug #104317009:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1043170 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Update wallpaper (incl. in LightDM and Plymouth) for Quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104317009:38
mr_pouitthanks09:40
knomeanything else you need?09:40
mr_pouitknome: can you get on your table and dance?09:42
mr_pouitso, no, it's ok :P09:42
knomemr_pouit, if we get to fix greybird, i'll do that09:42
mr_pouitoh right09:44
mr_pouitochosi: you could file a bug against xserver-xorg in ubuntu about that issue, then knome can poke them :P (the maintainers might know which component changed/why it does that and that may help ofourdan too)09:45
knomeyes, i can09:46
ochosibasically i think we should forward/link the upstream bugreport09:52
mr_pouitelfy: http://lionel.lefolgoc.net/misc/xfce-applications.menu << in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus, or ~/.config/menus, and tell me if it's better. Thanks! :P09:53
elfyappears in menu adding it to ~/.config/menus 09:55
elfylooks fine 09:55
elfymr_pouit: you want me to check in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus as well ?09:56
mr_pouitno no, it's ok, thanks09:56
elfyok :)09:56
knomemr_pouit, hmm, so, do you need a bug for uploading new elementary-xfce ?09:57
mr_pouitno, there's already one used by ochosi and bluesabre afaik09:57
knomeok...09:58
ochosiyup09:58
knome# ?09:58
ochosiit's set to fix committed09:58
knomeok09:58
ochosiknome: it's linked in the blueprint09:58
ochosimy connectivity is rly low here atm09:58
knomeok, good09:58
knomethat was what i was looking for09:58
knomei think the slideshow is ready09:59
knomethose who want to test the new xubuntu slideshow, clone https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html10:16
knomethere's a README how to get it running, but basically it's "install zenity" and "run ./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu"10:16
smartboyhwTested it and looks great. Thanks knome10:21
smartboyhwActually we don't need to install zenity, it is normally included (except if you removed it)10:23
knomein some release it wasn't, becuase i remember having to install it10:24
smartboyhwBut even in the README it says that it should be installed...10:25
smartboyhw(Note: needs zenity, which is probably already installed). in README10:25
knomewhatever10:26
smartboyhw:)10:26
olbisome1 could zip these files and host it? :) I dont want to install bzr now :P10:33
smartboyhwWhy?10:34
olbibecasue this is my working machine, testing is in home already :P10:34
smartboyhwWait10:34
smartboyhwolbi: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-b3529a7e.html10:37
olbithx :)10:38
smartboyhw;)10:39
olbistrange errors have13:28
olbi(zenity:13042): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:1679:17: Junk at end of value13:28
smartboyhwolbi: What?13:28
olbiwhen running these slides13:28
smartboyhwWeird, i only get font warnings13:29
olbii run it on Ubuntu 11.1013:30
ochosiolbi: most likely too old gtk313:41
ochosi(most likely == i'm pretty sure)13:41
olbihmm, think so :P13:41
olbiI presume that in system couldn't be gtk2 and gtk3?13:42
bluesabre11.10 was using gtk 3.2, right?  That was like, brand new13:53
olbiyep, 3.2 it is13:59
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knomemr_pouit, status with elementary-xfce and the new panel layout?19:52
knomemr_pouit, also, what's the stance on bug #100578519:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1005785 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Convert parts of elementary-xfce to png during pkg-build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100578519:56
ochosiknome: but #1005785 was postponed due to lack of space :/21:54
ochosis/but/bug/21:54
knomeochosi, oh, ok21:54
knomethen why is it new/linked?21:55
ochosii think it was kinda "postponed", you know...21:59
knomeheh21:59
knomeif you don't want to change the bug status, then unlink it so it doesn't appear in the Q work items21:59
knomeBook_em_Dano, o hai22:01
pleia2oh bother, spamtastic wiki22:02
knomehaha22:02
knomespamtastic knome22:02
knomehey pleia2 22:02
knomeyou have time now? :]22:02
pleia2no, getting the wiki sorted, then back to work22:02
knomebah22:03
knomeso, kick out knome?22:03
pleia2knome is fine22:03
knome;)22:03
knomeare you saying i'm not working hard enough?!22:04
* pleia2 gives knome a gold star22:04
knomehehe22:04
knomenot platinum?22:04
pleia2maybe later22:05
knomeha22:05
knomei just fixed most of "internet and networks"22:05
knomeas you probably noticed22:05
pleia2I accidentally nuked the RecentChanges page and didn't have backups23:30
pleia2sorry about that23:30
* pleia2 loses 20 sysadmin points23:30
pleia2but the spam is gone, I'll keep an eye on it23:31
knomedoh23:34
knome:)23:34
pleia2and I'm making backups now ;)23:35
knomehah23:39
knomepleia2, reference to synaptic https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing packages without an Internet connection23:50
pleia2yeah well, that's because it's a poorly maintained wiki :)23:51
knomeo'rly23:51
pleia2we should all just use the arch wiki23:51
knomehah23:51

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