[01:57] <dador33> hello everyone ,, how are you doing  :D
[01:57] <Jarsoom766> Hey
[01:58] <Jarsoom766> Question... How do you boot xubuntu with lilo?
[02:00] <drc> Jarsoom766: You wanting to dualboot xubuntu and slackware?
[02:00] <Jarsoom766> Yup
[02:00] <drc> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-slackware-13-37-a-4175423036/
[02:00] <Jarsoom766> I have Absolute Linux and Xubuntu on the same disk
[02:01] <Jarsoom766> I boot Xubuntu, it gets to tty1, system freezes.
[02:01] <Jarsoom766> Doesn't recognize keystrokes or mouse
[02:01] <drc> You'd do better asking on LinuxQueations, as they actually use lilo
[02:01] <drc> or ##slackware
[02:01] <Jarsoom766> Aye
[03:45] <G__81> when i do a git clone i get this warning for every repo
[03:45] <G__81> the warning is
[03:45] <G__81> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-pndHdL/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[03:45] <G__81> can someone tell me how to suppress this ?
[03:45] <G__81> and sometimes i get the gnome-keyring dialog box appear on screen when i go to some website it comes up randomly
[03:46] <G__81> i am not sure whether these two problems are inter connected
[03:49] <xubuntu463> hello
[04:04] <unheeding> can anyone help me to customize the trash icon in XFCE?
[04:05] <tech1> you can use a different icon theme pack
[04:05] <tech1> or duplicate the one you are using and edit the trash icon for it
[04:07] <unheeding> could i just go to the trash icon and replace it with the one i want?
[04:07] <tech1> maybe. let me see
[04:08] <tech1> with the Nautilus file explorer you can edit folders with right click, propeties.....not sure about the trash though. i cant find that folder
[04:08] <G__81>  when i do a git clone i get this warning for every repo
[04:08] <G__81>  WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-pndHdL/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[04:08] <G__81> how do i suppress this ?
[04:09] <drc> tech1: ~/.local/share/Trash
[04:09] <G__81> and sometimes i get the gnome-keyring dialog box appear on screen when i go to some website it comes up randomly
[04:10] <tech1> ok. the ~/.local/share/Trash icon is just a regular folder icon in my nautilus..... so the "Rubbish Bin" on the desktop and side panel probably gets the icon from the icon theme
[04:11] <tech1> so just go to settings > appearance > icons and choose a different theme.
[04:13] <unheeding> but the icon i want to use is not part of a particular theme
[04:14] <tech1> well you can create your own theme, just duplicate the theme you have(with a new name), whch will keep your current icons, then edit the one you want to change
[04:15] <tech1> it would be simpler to edit the system theme without duplicating the theme, but i wouldnt recommend that
[04:31] <unheeding> wow I did it
[04:31] <unheeding> thanks tech1
[04:31] <tech1> cool
[04:32] <unheeding> man i am so impressed with my skills
[04:33] <tech1> keep it up :)
[04:35] <unheeding> here is the finished result: http://i.imgur.com/lTKhm.jpg
[04:36] <tech1> cute
[04:45] <unheeding> Ponies... ponies everywhere!
[05:37] <unheeding> Xubuntu is so awesome!
[05:38] <unheeding> hooray for team Xubuntu
[05:38] <unheeding> hip hip hooray!
[05:41] <knome> unheeding, re: your question some days ago; yes, i use xfce ;)
[05:42] <unheeding> impressive that you remembered
[05:43] <unheeding> i use xfce now too
[05:43] <unheeding> it's all customized and stuff
[05:44] <knome> i have backlogs to remind me ;)
[05:44] <unheeding> how do you set that up?
[05:57] <testy> unheeding: testing your script
[05:58] <knome> unheeding, i run irssi under a screen, so my irc client is always on
[05:59] <unheeding> knome: i installed a script called hilightwin.pl, it says it created a window named hilight... but how do i access it?
[06:00] <knome> unheeding, which client? irssi?
[06:00] <unheeding> yes
[06:00] <knome> alt+numbers
[06:00] <unheeding> it's not in any of the numbers
[06:00] <unheeding> just the main window and channels are available
[06:01] <knome> hmm, then i don't know, i'm not familiar with the script
[06:02] <unheeding> i'll ty the one from scripts.irssi.org
[06:03] <unheeding> ooh i think it worked
[06:03] <testy> unheeding: did it work?
[06:04] <unheeding> yes, yes it did
[06:05] <unheeding> nice
[07:42] <Andy80> hello
[07:43] <Andy80> one question: Ubuntu will almost surely remove the alternate-install CDs starting from the next release. Are you going to follow the same path or are you thinking about keeping the alternate-install? Thanks
[07:44] <knome> Andy80, we are discussing it, but it looks like we're going to drop it as well
[07:44] <Andy80> bad news then :(
[07:44] <knome> there are other ways: netboot and minimal iso
[07:45] <knome> we have no manpower to maintain the alternates if ubuntu drops them, that's one of the main arguments for dropping
[07:46] <Andy80> I've nothing agains graphic installers, but.... think about RAID setup for example... it won't be ready for 12.10
[07:46] <Andy80> oh.. I can understand it then
[07:46] <Andy80> if Ubuntu drops it you would have to do the whole work yourself
[07:46] <knome> you can use 12.04 then, or any release after that supports RAID
[07:51] <Andy80> well.. probably it's easier to use the server version
[07:52] <Sysi> mini.iso has alt installer with raid capabilities
[07:52] <knome> Andy80, yeah, there's server too. though they are probably going to drop server i386 too.
[07:53] <knome> they are looking to reduce the ISO/build amount, and this is a very effective way
[07:56] <Andy80> well... at least they should clearly state: we want to get rid of old PCs
[07:56] <Andy80> it would be more honest :P
[07:57] <Andy80> keep in mind anyway that lot of times (even with recent hardware... 2-3 years) we had problems with graphic installer... in particular with very cheap graphic cards
[07:57] <Andy80> and we had to use the alternate-install
[07:57] <knome> the thing is
[07:57] <knome> ubiquity (the graphical installer) might not work with all cards, but that's because people have been sent to alternate
[07:57] <Andy80> so starting from 12.10 it could be impossible for us (us/we: I talk in name of the linux user group I manage) to install Ubuntu on our PCs
[07:58] <knome> now, instead of sending to alternate, we will make people file the bugs, and they'll probably be fixed
[07:58] <Andy80> yeah, that's the point---
[07:58] <knome> you can always use the 12.04 ISO - that's LTS, and it's no way "obsolete"
[07:58] <Andy80> they should have already been fixed... that's not the way, imho
[07:58] <knome> of course. but you didn't fix them :)
[07:59] <knome> i mean, not that we wouldn't like them to be fixed, but they aren't
[07:59] <Andy80> I've no skills to fix a bug with a graphic card, or I would have done it :)
[07:59] <knome> i'm sure ubiquity has been getting better
[07:59] <knome> the release after LTS is the right time to do this change
[08:00] <knome> wouldn't make sense to try to upkeep it for a few more releases, since there won't be an LTS
[08:02] <Sysi> about any graphics card should boot with "xforcevesa" option
[08:05] <Kingsy> anyone know of a nice ical app that sits in the notifaction area or something?
[08:10] <Andy80> old good days with text installer and recompiling kernel with my own optimizations as first thing to do ;)
[08:12] <livingdaylight> guys, is there a social-networking site like diaspora, open-source, protect and honor our privacy but that can connect with other services such as Google- and fciabook. What I loathe is "lock-in" where, whether its skype [good example] users are locked-in to one app or service to access other users /friends using that particular app/service
[08:13] <livingdaylight> diaspora looks good but seems to suffer from lock-in. that creates a battle, where either everyone migrates to one or another service - whatever the herd decides is most popular
[08:14] <livingdaylight> can become a self-fullfilling prophecy and remove our choice
[08:15] <knome> livingdaylight, i don't think so
[08:15] <livingdaylight> hrmm... shame - its what we need. Its what I want anyway.
[08:29] <marcappuccino> I guess since its not a real binary application lol
[08:29] <Sysi> Kingsy: it would be better to move it to ~/.local/share/applications/
[08:29] <marcappuccino>  a .desktop file should be in /usr/share/xsessions and it contains desktops like xfce lxde unity etc
[08:29] <marcappuccino> ...but why what do you hope to acheive with this
[08:29] <Sysi> .desktop files are in those application folders and they're used for menus
[08:30] <Sysi> also should I say
[08:30] <Kingsy> well I added the item manually and it works ok
[08:30] <marcappuccino> ...but why what do you hope to acheive with this
[08:30] <Kingsy> so you say the reason it didnt appear was because it was in the wrong folder?
[08:31] <Kingsy> marcappuccino: I don't understand what your asking, I want to add an application to the application menu so I can run it? heh
[08:31] <Sysi> Kingsy: could be, or wrong permissions
[08:32] <marcappuccino> oh so the 'application' is a shortcut to your 'sunbird.sh' (app?)
[08:32] <Kingsy> yeah
[08:33] <Kingsy> Sysi: i just assigned it to the root user.. perhaps it should have been my user?
[08:34] <Sysi> Kingsy: I've always operated in $HOME so I don't really know
[08:38] <Kingsy> np
[09:25] <nicklas> Hi All. If start my laptop with a HDMI monitor connected, my Xubuntu 12.04 system will not boot and gives the following error: drm_crtc_helper set_config error failed to set mode on crtc:5. I haven't been able to find anything online. Is this a common problem?
[09:27] <TheSheep> one would think that you would find something online if it was common, personally I never heard of it
[09:27] <TheSheep> you might want to check out the forums, and if there is nothing, report a bug
[09:27] <TheSheep> !forums | nicklas
[09:27] <TheSheep> !bugs | nicklas
[15:51] <Ileden> I just installed xubuntu on my desktop computer. Desktop performance is very, very slow. My video adapter is: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV 630 XT AGP [Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP]
[15:53] <Ileden> I did try the FGLRX proprietary driver, but it doesn't help.
[16:19] <FounderOf420> I'm on 12.04.1 do i need to install some extra packgs to mount my android device?
[16:19] <FounderOf420> getting no detection what-so-ever
[16:19] <blackgatonegro> well, lets me see
[16:25] <blackgatonegro> well, did you install the propietary drivers?
[16:27] <FounderOf420> from samsung? no. they don't have a linux driver, only a .msi format
[16:27] <blackgatonegro> no I mean the ones in xubuntu
[16:27] <blackgatonegro> the ones to read audio and video files
[16:27] <blackgatonegro> like mp3 and that
[16:28] <FounderOf420> yeah, but only via the option at the install.
[16:28] <blackgatonegro> install those
[16:28] <FounderOf420> is that the 'restricted-extras' ?
[16:28] <blackgatonegro> yes
[16:28] <blackgatonegro> install the xubuntu ones
[16:29] <blackgatonegro> xubuntu should show the android phone as  as a portable storage device when you plug it in, if its not, try to reboot the computer with the android phone conected
[16:29] <FounderOf420> ok
[16:30] <blackgatonegro> but you need the restricted extras to play most video and audio files formats
[16:30] <blackgatonegro> on xubuntu
[16:31] <Sysi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146529/how-to-connect-samsung-galaxy-s3-via-usb
[16:32] <FounderOf420> i use vlc for all my vids so i havent needed restricted-extras in quite a while
[16:32] <blackgatonegro> well, it still helps
[16:33] <blackgatonegro> audacious is a pain with some codecs -_-
[16:34] <FounderOf420> certainly does help
[16:35] <blackgatonegro> vlc on linux does not include dvd decoding by default, so you need to install medibuntu for that
[16:35] <FounderOf420> thanks sysi, i installed a couple addition mtp pkgs
[16:36] <Unit193> !medibuntu
[16:36] <FounderOf420> ok ill grab the repo upon reboot
[16:36] <blackgatonegro> it seems you have a hardware specific issue, as android and ubuntu have become more compatible lately
[16:36] <blackgatonegro> !help
[16:37] <FounderOf420> that's what i thought, i remember on my old desktop running 10.* that it would just mount right away
[16:37] <blackgatonegro> 12.4x does have some issues, but conpatibility with android is not one of them
[16:38] <Sysi> MTP is samsung special
[16:39] <blackgatonegro> some cell phones are a pain, thats why I check tons of reviews before buying
[16:42] <FounderOf420> i'm using a galaxy s2 fascinate, 'twas a hand-me-down
[16:43] <FounderOf420> i shall return, thanks for the inputs
[16:43] <blackgatonegro> ok
[16:54] <FounderOf420> hrm, no love
[16:55] <drc> Not without protection.
[16:55] <FounderOf420> i rebooted with the phone attached but no detection. then rebooted the phone while attached and the phone detected the connection. i selected connect to usb but no computer detection still
[16:55] <FounderOf420> lsusb reveals nothing
[16:57] <blackgatonegro> mmm
[16:57] <blackgatonegro> tried to mount with disk utility on xubuntu?
[16:58] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: is this an android 4.x phone?
[16:58] <TheSheep> because the new androids are no longer visible as usb disks
[16:58] <FounderOf420> no 2.3.5 i believe
[16:59] <TheSheep> they use mtp protocol to transfer files through usb
[16:59] <TheSheep> which means that on mac and linux (or anything not windows, really) you need a special application
[16:59] <TheSheep> gmtp works for me fine
[16:59] <FounderOf420> i have the mtp pckgs installed and the banshee plugin as well
[17:00] <FounderOf420> ok ill check that out
[17:00] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: you can see if your computer sees the device with the "lsusb" command in terminal
[17:00] <TheSheep> it will list all your usb connected devices
[17:00] <FounderOf420> lsusb showed me no devices
[17:00] <blackgatonegro> how about disk utility?
[17:01] <TheSheep> if lsusb doesn't show it, then something is wrong with the connection
[17:01] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: anything relevant in dmesg?
[17:02] <FounderOf420> unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[17:02] <FounderOf420> device descriptor read/64, error -71
[17:02] <FounderOf420> [  255.180158] usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device number 15 using uhci_hcd
[17:03] <FounderOf420> device not accepting address 21, error -71
[17:03] <blackgatonegro> mmm
[17:03] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: I had number -71 once, and it turned out to be a faulty usb cable, but in this case this can be anything
[17:04] <FounderOf420> i've had trouble with cables before but i've tried every one i have. even a brand new one from a Galaxy S3
[17:04] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: it may be also the socket, or any internal connection, or something not related to the cables at all
[17:04] <blackgatonegro> well
[17:04] <TheSheep> as far as I know error 71 is a generic protocl error
[17:05] <blackgatonegro> lets try the cable first
[17:05] <TheSheep> protocol
[17:05] <TheSheep> and a different socket
[17:05] <TheSheep> but it could also be something with the phone :(
[17:06] <blackgatonegro> well some phones hardware doesnt like ubuntu
[17:06] <blackgatonegro> does your phone have a micro sd card?
[17:06] <TheSheep> I doubt it's ubuntu specifically, it follows the standard protocol after all
[17:07] <FounderOf420> yes, microSD
[17:07] <FounderOf420> i think it has to be the phone
[17:07] <blackgatonegro> you could use an adapter and conect the microSD, that willwork for sure
[17:07] <blackgatonegro> is not a direct conection, but it will work.
[17:08] <FounderOf420> yeah i have ana dapter, also android sync manager to sync over wifi. but i really want to root this POS and get a new ROM
[17:08] <FounderOf420> there's 4 pages of verizon apps on here by default.. its disgusting lol
[17:09] <blackgatonegro> you could update android os
[17:09] <FounderOf420> hmmm i think this phone is a refurb... theres an 'asurion' sticker under the battery
[17:09] <blackgatonegro> ok then
[17:09] <FounderOf420> what the hell... they probably scrambled the insides
[17:10] <blackgatonegro> would explain why usb does not work well
[17:10] <FounderOf420> maaaaaan... that's garbage
[17:12] <FounderOf420> theres really nothing i can do about that eh?
[17:14] <blackgatonegro> yup
[17:15] <FounderOf420> perhaps Mr. Hammer can fix it >:[
[17:15] <drc> oh no mr bill !
[17:17] <En-> when i launch xubuntu from my live cd im getting the screen resolution too low.. any ideas why_
[17:17] <blackgatonegro> cause is a live cd
[17:17] <blackgatonegro> is does not have the video drivers installed
[17:18] <En-> if i install it it should be good then_
[17:18] <En-> ?
[17:19] <FounderOf420> the proper drivers should be installed. whats your default resolution?
[17:19] <drc> and video card?
[17:22] <En-> Radeon HD 6310
[17:26] <FounderOf420> blackgatonegro is probably right. i've never had that issue but i always use generic onboard video drivers. upon install you will se an icon on desktop that says 'additional hardware drivers' which will install what you need
[17:51] <Guest5674> im getting an error during installation "it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specific location "
[17:54] <drc> Guest5674: My guess would be that you did not make the proper choice of where to install the bootloader (i.e., sdb1 [the usb stick] instead of sda1 [the hdd]...as examples)
[17:55] <drc> Not sure why installing from a USB sick defaults to the USB stick, but....
[17:55] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[17:56] <Guest5674> well yes
[17:56] <Guest5674> im installing from usb
[17:58] <drc> Guest5674: Re-install...pay close attentionto the appropriate screen (iirc, it's the partition screen, at the bottom) where it asks you where you want to install the bootloader.
[17:58] <Guest5674> i need to choose a different device to install the bootloader
[17:58] <drc> yes
[17:58] <Guest5674> now its asking me to choose another device
[17:58] <Guest5674> which should be it?
[17:59] <drc> Is this a single OS (xubuntu only) or a dual boot (say, windows and xubuntu)
[17:59] <Guest5674> should it be /dev/sda
[18:00] <Guest5674> its shared with windows 7
[18:00] <Guest5674> dual boot
[18:00] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[18:00] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[18:00] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[18:01] <drc> Can some one with dual boot experience work with him, I never dual boot and have no knowledge of what goes where.
[18:02] <holstein> Guest5674: i wouldnt guess at the partitions
[18:02] <holstein> Guest5674: you can always *not* install a boot loadaer and do it later
[18:03] <holstein> Guest5674: i would suggest you have all your data backed up, and windows either mirrored or be prepared to reinstall if errors occur
[18:03] <holstein> installing a bootloader for dualboot is not that big of a deal though assuming something has gone wrong.. i always reference
[18:03] <holstein> !grub
[18:03] <holstein> there are how-to's for "restoring grub using a live CD
[18:04] <FounderOf420> yea the xubuntu installer defaults to the usb disk for some reason :/ almost caught me off guard as well
[18:16] <autif> does anyone know what package I need to install to 'use REST::Client;' in perl? I can't seem to be able to find it
[18:24] <Guest5674> i dont want to screw it up
[18:25] <holstein> Guest5674: correct.. and what i suggest is, plan for having already screwed it up, and you'll be fine.. know how to recover windows. the windows MBR.. grub from a live CD.. whatever you might "screw up"
[18:26] <Guest5674> ok
[19:52] <jessejazza> I'm trouble playing DVD on 12.04 - there's something i've overlooked. I've installed the codecs package.
[20:00] <David-A> jessejazza: I believe there is a script to run to install dvd decryption (not even in restricted extras, so full of patents is it)
[20:01] <Sysi> !dvdcss
[20:01] <Sysi> !libdvdcss
[20:02] <jessejazza> I don't know i been an LTS user... the negative being one doesn't install often enough to remember all the changes! I've looked up on the ubuntu support. there's something i've missed
[20:05] <jessejazza> it is a commercial DVD i'm trying to play - legitimate and paid for!
[20:07] <unheeding> there's your problem
[20:07] <unheeding> this is why i pirate
[20:08] <jessejazza> dvdcss, libdvdcss seem deprecated from wehat i can see.  xubuntu-restriced-extras and libdvdread4 would appear to be what's required
[20:09] <knome> unheeding, i encourage to stop there with that subject
[20:10] <unheeding> oh i knome ;)
[20:13] <Unit193> DVD is in the repo, but comes with a script to install libdvdcss3 from medibuntu repos.
[20:14] <SkippersBoss> http://packages.medibuntu.org/precise/index.html
[20:15] <Unit193> Alright SkippersBoss, you win there, it is dvdcss2...
[20:24] <SkippersBoss> yes and what is my price ??
[20:24] <SkippersBoss> lol
[20:24] <knome> SkippersBoss, a work item on the xubuntu docs
[20:25] <SkippersBoss> ai, i should have known
[20:26] <SkippersBoss> still trying to fire up XFburn without a burner.. :-( it crashed
[20:26] <jarson> how the hell do you set the default windows manger on xfce?
[20:26] <knome> jarson, please watch the language
[20:26] <jarson> got a broken laptop after an update that no longer has a windows manager
[21:25] <hermanlf> Problem: I am running xubuntu 12.04 and when I launch "Home" folder it gives me a Launch Error of "The folder could not be opened"
[21:26] <hermanlf> This happens only on the first launch of every reboot.
[21:29] <drc> I'm betting this is related to the delayed Thunar opening after a re/new boot.  Try this:  Uninstall gvfs-backends (you can re-install it if it doesn't work or you really need it), reboot.
[21:30] <hermanlf> k, lemmee try
[21:33] <hermanlf> yup, you nailed it.  That works great. Thanks.
[21:33] <drc> good
[21:53] <Ironsight> So umm, anyone know a fix where you apply a mouse cursor theme and it doesn't work on all the apps you run?
[21:54] <Ironsight> I found a nice one on xfce-look and it doesn't display the cursor on half my apps :/
[21:59] <well_laid_lawn> Ironsight: if you are using ~/.xinitrc to start fluxbox you can see if adding   xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr & to it will help
[21:59] <well_laid_lawn> xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr &
[22:00] <Ironsight> o.O fluxbox?
[22:00] <Ironsight> I'm using xfce :D
[22:01] <well_laid_lawn> oops wrong channel
[22:01] <Ironsight> it's cool :)
[22:01] <Ironsight> (Fluxbox is cool though)
[22:01] <well_laid_lawn> cursors always work everywhere here, is it just the one theme that fails?
[22:02] <Ironsight> I don't know, let me try another theme
[22:02] <Ironsight> the lion one failed...
[22:02] <well_laid_lawn> bad theme then?
[22:03] <Ironsight> nope, just tried them all
[22:03] <Ironsight> the theme doesn't change on some apps
[22:03] <Ironsight> like gtk
[22:04] <well_laid_lawn> just to check, how are you changing the mouse cursor theme?
[22:04] <Ironsight> menu>settings>settings manager>mouse and touchpad>theme
[22:04] <well_laid_lawn> should be good then...
[22:05] <Ironsight> looks like it's a known issue still (I guess for the last 5 years) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/157447
[22:06] <Ironsight> I'll just go with the default for now :)
[22:07] <Ironsight> ahh, this might help me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974227