/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/30/#kubuntu-devel.txt

shadeslayermorning02:42
shadeslayermicahg: is it just me or does backportpackage not allow you to specify the version of the backport?03:02
micahgshadeslayer: you can specify what string to add if that's what you're asking03:02
shadeslayerhm03:02
* shadeslayer checks03:03
shadeslayermicahg: 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1 looks really weird tbh :P03:04
micahgshadeslayer: it's the new way to do it03:04
* shadeslayer was aiming for 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa103:04
micahg~release won't work when we get past z03:04
shadeslayertrue03:06
micahgand if we wait past u, we might have no recourse to do what we just did03:06
micahgit takes a little getting used to, but isn't that bad03:07
ahoneybunshadeslayer: hello sir!03:12
shadeslayerahoneybun: ohai03:14
ahoneybunshadeslayer: ok so the package did not build, and I did get it uploaded to the PPA03:14
ahoneybunbut it did build03:15
ahoneybunnot03:15
shadeslayeryeah I kind of expected that03:16
shadeslayerahoneybun: can you show me the build logs03:16
shadeslayerjust to confirm what I thought was wrong03:17
ahoneybunnot sure where it is03:17
shadeslayerneed your lp page03:17
ahoneybunshadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/kubuntu-ppa/+packages03:17
shadeslayer Could not find a configuration file for package "TelepathyQt4" that is compatible with requested version "0.9.2.1".03:18
shadeslayeryou'll need to backport telepathy qt as well :)03:18
ahoneybunwhere did you read that?03:18
shadeslayerahoneybun: click the amd64 link03:19
shadeslayerright next to the red cross 03:19
shadeslayerand then click buildlog03:19
ahoneybunI saw that :) and found that part03:20
shadeslayerscroll down to the CMake output03:20
ahoneybunYea I see :) ok what next03:20
shadeslayeryou'll need to backport telepathy-qt03:21
shadeslayerahoneybun: see man backportpackage03:21
ahoneybunok steps sir! :)03:21
ahoneybuncommand?03:21
shadeslayerI'm not going to tell you everything :P03:21
shadeslayerread the man page and figure out how to backport the telepathy-qt source package03:21
shadeslayerEverything you need is in that ^ line03:22
ahoneybunok I try sir!03:22
shadeslayerand don't call me sir ... 03:22
shadeslayermakes me feel old like ScottK03:22
ahoneybunoh sorry03:22
ScottKshadeslayer: ktp-debugger needs FFe then.03:23
shadeslayerScottK: will do03:23
ahoneybunbackport that package03:24
shadeslayeroh fooey, telepathy qt has new symbols on arm03:25
ahoneybunshadeslayer: I'm still looking on that man page03:27
shadeslayerok03:27
ahoneybunhaving issues finding03:28
shadeslayerman backportpackage?03:28
ahoneybunso I need to find the source package and backport it03:29
shadeslayerScottK: can you pass libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 from new?03:29
ScottKProbably not tonight.03:29
ScottKAlso needs FFe.03:29
shadeslayerwill file03:29
ahoneybunI feel sily03:34
ahoneybunsilly03:34
shadeslayerhm05:30
shadeslayer * (ktimetracker) [i386] < in the seeds05:30
shadeslayerany particular reason why only for i386?05:31
jussiMorning all05:38
shadeslayerhi jussi05:42
jussiheya shadeslayer05:43
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shadeslayerRiddell: ping08:03
shadeslayer->lunch08:32
shadeslayercould someone explain, in detail, how the kubuntu-desktop task get's generated?08:52
Riddellshadeslayer: yo?09:04
shadeslayerpm09:04
shadeslayerRiddell: oh btw : * (ktimetracker) [i386] < in the seeds09:11
shadeslayerany reason why we don't want ktt on amd6409:11
Riddellspooky09:12
Riddellgo ahead and fix it09:12
shadeslayerok09:12
shadeslayershould I just drop the i386?09:13
shadeslayeror add amd64 ( does it make sense to have ktt on arm/ppc/etc )09:13
Riddelljust drop i38609:13
shadeslayerokay09:14
Riddellalthough running it I get an error box saying "Could not create the KTimeTracker part."09:15
shadeslayerRiddell: the other question being, why do we have the desktop file from seeds in kubuntu-meta ?09:15
Riddellshadeslayer: how do you mean?09:16
shadeslayerwell .... pull-lp-source kubuntu-meta09:16
shadeslayerand the desktop file from seeds ( not desktop-i386 or amd64 ) is in there09:16
Riddelloh dunno, can be removed09:17
shadeslayerand looks like something is horribly wrong with ktt09:17
Riddellshadeslayer: best remove it from the seed until we find out what09:18
shadeslayerok09:18
shadeslayerfixed09:19
shadeslayergood guy bzr, says you don't have a push destination, tells you how to fix it09:20
shadeslayerRiddell: want me to fix the meta package as well?09:21
* shadeslayer keeps typing kubuntu-meat instead of kubuntu-meta09:21
shadeslayerah yes, this also reminds me of another bug09:22
shadeslayerRiddell: kubuntu-desktop^ differs from kubuntu-desktop09:22
shadeslayeriirc kubuntu-desktop^ depends on kde-workspace09:23
shadeslayerthe meta package does not09:23
Riddellhmm curious09:28
Riddellshadeslayer: can you add kde-workspace to the seed, just incase that causes problems09:29
shadeslayersyre09:30
shadeslayer*sure09:30
shadeslayerRiddell: can I drop kde-workspace-bin ? kde-workspace already depends on it09:31
Riddellyeah09:31
shadeslayerdone09:32
shadeslayerwtf09:38
shadeslayerX hogging all memory09:38
shadeslayerbbiab09:38
shadeslayerbleh, X corruption all around09:52
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yofelRiddell: ktimetracker is supposed to be fixed in 4.9.1 according to the upstream bug11:01
Riddellah hah11:01
Riddellmeta-kde-telepathy 0.5.0ubuntu1 produces uninstallable binaries:11:07
Riddellkde-telepathy11:07
Riddellshadeslayer: can you see what's up there?11:07
shadeslayerstuff in New11:09
Riddellaah11:09
shadeslayer<ScottK> shadeslayer: ktp-debugger needs FFe then. <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you pass libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 from new? <ScottK> Also needs FFe.11:09
shadeslayerwho's up for filing some FFe's?11:10
shadeslayer:D11:10
shadeslayerRiddell: iirc caligraactive needs a bit of investigation11:13
Riddellshadeslayer: how so?11:13
shadeslayerbug 98143811:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 981438 in calligra (Ubuntu) "calligraactive does not start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98143811:14
shadeslayerupstream says : <Shaan7> shadeslayer: hi, as ingwa pointed out, after 105146c7114882bde6e1adf7e28376892c18a070, CA wont complain about metadata models not installed11:14
shadeslayerUpstream also fixed bug 99832411:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 998324 in calligra (Ubuntu) "Calligra Words should not replace Kate file associations" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99832411:15
shadeslayerso we might want the patch included11:15
shadeslayerbleh, X usage increasing again :(11:17
shadeslayerhttps://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/66ca55e975eb6272199acc7b201b0bf6d80e2b63/diff/words/part/words.desktop11:20
Riddellshadeslayer: well I'm packaging up 2.5.111:20
shadeslayeroh ok11:20
Riddellso that should include those fixes11:20
* shadeslayer is not sure if that patch is in 2.5.111:20
shadeslayerlet's see :)11:21
Riddellhmm you're right, it's not11:21
RiddellI wonder what X-Calligra-DefaultMimeTypes= is anyway11:21
shadeslayerit's in the 2.5 branch though11:21
shadeslayerRiddell: afaict KDE uses that to determine which application should open a file when 2 apps are associated with the same mimetype11:22
shadeslayerso if you right click a text file > open with > Calligra is placed above kate11:23
Riddellhmm I'm not convinced but ok11:25
shadeslayeryou could edit the desktop file and check :)11:25
Riddellshadeslayer: no change, only MimeType= affects dolphin, which is as it should be11:35
RiddellX-Calligra-DefaultMimeTypes= must do something internal11:36
shadeslayerhm11:38
shadeslayerdunno then, I showed upstream the bug and they said that that's how they can handle it11:38
shadeslayeriirc there's another way to set it11:39
shadeslayers/it/the default application for a mimetype11:39
shadeslayerkeditfiletype text/plain    11:39
Riddellqt 5 beta out http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5-Beta11:58
Riddellbut no split tars11:58
RiddellI'm not sure it's worth the time to package it until they split the tars cos that'll mean re-packaging it11:58
shadeslayerdarn12:01
shadeslayerbeat me to it12:01
shadeslayerMost notably, you will need decent OpenGL drivers on Windows for Qt Quick to work, and there are issues remaining with Qt Multimedia on platforms *other than Linux.* 12:05
shadeslayerthat makes me feel good inside :P12:05
mikhasRiddell, you mean http://nargothrond.macieira.info/~thiago/split_sources/ ?12:06
Riddellmikhas: interesting12:07
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1043573] Overlapping icons in KDE Task Manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1043573 (by David Burleigh)12:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1043573 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Overlapping icons in KDE Task Manager " [Undecided,New]12:07
shadeslayerheh12:19
jussi01shadeslayer: still up? any idea why ktp is being held back in quantal ?13:53
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shadeslayerjussi01: yes, stuff being held in binary new atm14:05
shadeslayerI haven't had the time to file FFe's for it, will do tomorrow ( I thought they were covered by the meta FFe, apparently not (14:06
jussi01shadeslayer: ahh ok14:09
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1043852] [kde-netbook] different background images @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1043852 (by Exsudat)14:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1043852 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "[kde-netbook] different background images" [Undecided,New]14:13
jussi01ubottu: ignore kubotu14:22
ubottuThe operation succeeded.14:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ignore kubotu14:22
shadeslayerheh, wot14:22
shadeslayerjussi01: can you make !find find stuff from quantal?14:22
shadeslayerinstead of precise14:23
jussi01!find kde quantal14:23
ubottuFound: kdelibs-bin, kdelibs5-data, kdelibs5-dbg, kdelibs5-dev, language-pack-kde-zh-hans, language-pack-kde-zh-hans-base, language-pack-kde-zh-hant, language-pack-kde-zh-hant-base, libkde3support4, libkdeclarative5 (and 539 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all14:23
jussi01like that?14:23
shadeslayersure, but I'm lazy and don't want to type quantal14:23
shadeslayer!find kde14:23
ubottuFound: apturl-kde, debconf-kde-dbg, kde-config-gtk, kde-config-touchpad, kde-l10n-csb, kde-l10n-eo, kde-l10n-fy, kde-l10n-gu, kde-l10n-hi, kde-l10n-kn (and 531 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all14:23
jussi01oh you poor thing :P14:23
shadeslayershould just find using quantal14:24
shadeslayeryes, typing quantal is too annoying :P14:24
yofelyeah, you can usually assume that people in here would search in quantal14:24
* shadeslayer hi5's yofel14:25
* yofel hi5's back14:25
shadeslayerany news on UDS sponsorships?14:25
jussi01!find shadeslayer14:27
ubottuPackage/file shadeslayer does not exist in quantal14:27
shadeslayeraw :(14:27
* shadeslayer hugs ubottu anyway14:28
jussi01shadeslayer: hows that huh?14:28
shadeslayerthat hurt :(14:28
shadeslayermaybe .. I exist in quantal14:28
* yofel hugs jussi01 :)14:28
shadeslayerbut then you didn't enable quantal by default, and I'm lazy ...14:29
jussi01ergh14:29
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jussishadeslayer: I did enable quantal by default...14:29
jussiin here...14:29
shadeslayeroh14:29
shadeslayerok14:29
shadeslayerawesome14:29
shadeslayerjussi++14:29
shadeslayeryou just wanted the karma didn't you14:30
highvoltageI can't point a finger14:30
* highvoltage is a karma whore14:30
jussishadeslayer: nah, I just want that ktp feature ;)14:31
shadeslayerriiiighhhhttt14:31
jussihighvoltage: back to your old nick I see14:31
shadeslayerhmm ... my plasma script doesn't run14:31
highvoltagejussi: yeah I couldn't get used to the new one14:31
highvoltagejussi: I guess I'm stuck with 'highvoltage' for life.14:32
jussihighvoltage: :D14:32
jussihighvoltage: Im still waiting for some information from you14:32
* jussi PMS14:32
highvoltageah right14:32
highvoltageI'll get to that today :)14:32
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shumskishadeslayer: allyrighty :-)15:48
shadeslayer:D15:48
shumskigod, i suck at spelling today15:48
shadeslayershumski: btw I'm not familiar with firefox-kde.patch 15:49
shadeslayerI just did some minor changes to debian/rules to make ff build15:49
shadeslayerafaik apachelogger handles that part15:49
shumskishadeslayer: yes, formerly it was done to copy mozilla's browser.xul and then patch it, now it pulled from /dev/null15:50
shumskishadeslayer: actually, yes, only firefox-kde.patch really changed for ff15, mozilla-kde is the same15:52
shadeslayerI'm wondering why we need this : https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/firefox-kde-114.patch15:52
shumskishadeslayer: i think that's really not needed. that's SuSE specific15:54
shadeslayeryeah15:54
shadeslayerthe less we patch ff, the more maintainable it becomes ...15:54
shadeslayerhttps://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/firefox-kde.patch is what gives me nightmares tbh15:55
shadeslayerespecially seeing how stuff is ifdef'd in there for OS X and Windows15:55
shumskiyeah, don't know why is that needed. for kde on windows perhaps? :D15:57
shadeslayerI ... don't even want to support that usecase15:57
shumski:D15:58
shadeslayerthat's just setting yourself up for so much fail15:58
shumskialso, kde.js is not really needed15:58
shadeslayerawesome, we can drop more stuff15:58
shumskithats only relevant on the first run15:58
shadeslayershumski: are you sure though?15:58
shadeslayerlast time I checked the build failed15:59
shadeslayerbecause kde.js was in the file manifest15:59
shumskiwell, it's mentioned in firefox-kde patch, but you can drop it from there15:59
shumskitested - works15:59
shadeslayeralrighty15:59
shumskior mozilla-kde15:59
shumskino, last hunk of firefox-kde16:00
shadeslayeractually, moz-kde does mention kde.js as well16:01
shadeslayerhttps://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/mozilla-kde.patch16:01
shadeslayerpfft16:01
shadeslayerpref("browser.preferences.instantApply", false); < If I read that right, that just disables applying preferences instantaneously16:02
shumskiahh, maybe that's an ugly hack to determine we are inside kde session ?16:02
shumskiyes16:02
shumskii think it doesn't for some time with vanilla ff16:03
shadeslayerI have no idea, I'm looking at the patches for the first time :)16:04
shadeslayerplus, really tired16:04
shadeslayerI think I'll go sleep now 16:04
shadeslayershumski: will try and clean up the patches on Monday16:04
shumskishadeslayer: i also need to grab something to eat, we'll discuss it later :)16:04
shumskishadeslayer: OK, cool16:04
shadeslayershumski: I'm around from 8 AM IST to 9 PM IST16:05
shadeslayerso feel free to email/ping on irc16:05
shumskiwill do :)16:05
shadeslayernight everyone :)16:05
shumskinight :)16:05
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JontheEchidnafound the split tarballs: http://releases.qt-project.org/qt5.0/beta1/split_sources/16:12
JontheEchidnaaccording to the todo, canonical has some preliminary packaging here: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-daily/16:21
JontheEchidnathought it doesn't seem to split the modules up in to binary packages. (1 package per source)16:21
RiddellJontheEchidna: right it's very simple packaging that16:24
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I suppose we'd use those as a base, then upload improved packages to kubuntu-ppa/experimental?16:25
RiddellJontheEchidna: that would be a plan yes16:26
JontheEchidnaI'll write something up for the notes.kde.org pad16:31
Riddellgreat thanks16:32
soeecan you help me a bit with buiding lightdm: http://pastebin.com/R9RD7W5H ?16:36
shumskisoee: you need liblightdm-qt-2-dev16:38
soeeok let me try16:39
JontheEchidnaQt5 todo set up on the kubuntu-ninjas notepad: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas16:40
soeehmm it requires a lot of extra packages :/16:40
soeegtk related 16:40
shumskisoee: so does lightdm :p16:41
shumskitry with --no-install-recommends16:41
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get build-dep lightdm-kde-greeter --no-install-recommends16:42
Quintasan_\o16:42
JontheEchidnaQuintasan_: how've you been?16:42
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QuintasanJontheEchidna: Fine, my connection was bad :P16:43
JontheEchidna:P16:43
JontheEchidnastarted uni yet?16:43
QuintasanSorting out minor stiff and trying to pass that damn driving license16:43
QuintasanJontheEchidna: nah, uni starts in more than a month16:43
JontheEchidnaah, cool16:43
JontheEchidnamine started this monday :s16:43
soeeok  now how can i switch to lightdm ?16:44
QuintasanJontheEchidna: Enjoy :P16:44
JontheEchidnahaha16:44
shumskisoee: did you install lightdm?16:47
soeeshumski, yes16:47
shumskisoee: ok, than do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm16:48
shumskiand choose lightdm16:48
soeeshumski, but this do nothing16:49
BluesKajI've been tryinto install firefox-kde from the blue shell ppa , which I added to the sources.list and aupdated , but the ff-kde isn't being located there 16:49
shumskisoee: no dialog?16:50
BluesKajam I missing something ?16:50
BluesKajshadeslayer, ? 16:50
soeeshumski, ok it looks like lightdm is not installed16:51
shumskisoee: something like this: http://i.imgur.com/pEVx5.png16:51
soeebut first of all - ir requires a lot of other packages right ? indicators etc ?16:51
shadeslayerBluesKaj: I have signed off for the day ... :), hopefully someone else will be able to help16:52
shumskisoee: don't know about that, try with sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lightdm16:52
soeehttp://pastebin.com/PchfwiAh16:52
shumskisoee: so it doesn't pull the recommendencies16:52
shadeslayerwrong package soee 16:53
shadeslayerits lightdm kde greeter or sth16:53
soeehuh?16:53
shumskisoee: i'm a little rusty with polish :D16:54
shadeslayer!find lightdm-kde16:54
ubottuFound: lightdm-kde-greeter16:54
shadeslayerthat ^16:54
soeeyeah thats better16:55
soeeok done :) thank you16:56
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soeeoh an lightdm has separate configuration section as i see16:56
BluesKajshadeslayer, so you're still here , should I just install plain firefox since firefox-kde isn't available altho I've installed firefox-kde-support16:56
shadeslayerBluesKaj: barely, there's no firefox-kde :)16:57
shadeslayeryou need to install the blue shell PPA and the version of ff in that ppa16:57
shadeslayeryou can do that with sudo apt-get install firefox=version 16:58
BluesKajwell the ppa shows firefox -kde is available in the ppa , shadeslayer , but it's not loacted when I try to instrall it16:58
shadeslayeruhh ....16:59
shadeslayerthat's weird16:59
BluesKajyeah 16:59
shadeslayerBluesKaj: you're on precise ?16:59
BluesKajnope , quantal16:59
BluesKajinstalled the quantal ppa17:00
shadeslayerhm, I am not sure, it should work ..17:00
BluesKajhttps://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde17:00
shadeslayerdid you do a apt-get update?17:00
BluesKajyes 17:00
BluesKajiut's listed in syanaptic as well17:00
shumskiThere's no firefox-kde in the pool: http://ppa.launchpad.net/blue-shell/firefox-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/17:01
shadeslayerdafuq17:01
shadeslayerhow is that even possible17:02
shumskithere's firefox-kde-support, but no firefox-kde17:02
shadeslayerah yes, there is no ff kde afaik17:03
BluesKajthen it should be changed on launchpad , they have sudo apt-get install firefox-kde as part of the instructions 17:03
BluesKajon the ppa that is17:04
shadeslayerfixed17:05
shadeslayerthx for pointing that out :)17:05
BluesKajlooks like the same ol' FF to me ...maybe it will be smoother and quicker with kde support 17:12
shumskiBluesKaj: basically, you'll get this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCt6BzFiDts17:14
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1003721] VLC causes massive disk usage when accessing settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1003721 (by actionparsnip)18:16
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Riddell18:05 < infinity> Riddell: Did you have any plans to fix the symbols files in telepathy-qt for ARM and PPC?  It's been FTBFS all month...21:14
Riddellnote to anyone ^21:15
ScottKshadeslayer: ^^^21:18

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