[02:42] morning [03:02] micahg: is it just me or does backportpackage not allow you to specify the version of the backport? [03:02] shadeslayer: you can specify what string to add if that's what you're asking [03:02] hm [03:03] * shadeslayer checks [03:04] micahg: 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1 looks really weird tbh :P [03:04] shadeslayer: it's the new way to do it [03:04] * shadeslayer was aiming for 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [03:04] ~release won't work when we get past z [03:06] true [03:06] and if we wait past u, we might have no recourse to do what we just did [03:07] it takes a little getting used to, but isn't that bad [03:12] shadeslayer: hello sir! [03:14] ahoneybun: ohai [03:14] shadeslayer: ok so the package did not build, and I did get it uploaded to the PPA [03:15] but it did build [03:15] not [03:16] yeah I kind of expected that [03:16] ahoneybun: can you show me the build logs [03:17] just to confirm what I thought was wrong [03:17] not sure where it is [03:17] need your lp page [03:17] shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/kubuntu-ppa/+packages [03:18] Could not find a configuration file for package "TelepathyQt4" that is compatible with requested version "0.9.2.1". [03:18] you'll need to backport telepathy qt as well :) [03:18] where did you read that? [03:19] ahoneybun: click the amd64 link [03:19] right next to the red cross [03:19] and then click buildlog [03:20] I saw that :) and found that part [03:20] scroll down to the CMake output [03:20] Yea I see :) ok what next [03:21] you'll need to backport telepathy-qt [03:21] ahoneybun: see man backportpackage [03:21] ok steps sir! :) [03:21] command? [03:21] I'm not going to tell you everything :P [03:21] read the man page and figure out how to backport the telepathy-qt source package [03:22] Everything you need is in that ^ line [03:22] ok I try sir! [03:22] and don't call me sir ... [03:22] makes me feel old like ScottK [03:22] oh sorry [03:23] shadeslayer: ktp-debugger needs FFe then. [03:23] ScottK: will do [03:24] backport that package [03:25] oh fooey, telepathy qt has new symbols on arm [03:27] shadeslayer: I'm still looking on that man page [03:27] ok [03:28] having issues finding [03:28] man backportpackage? [03:29] so I need to find the source package and backport it [03:29] ScottK: can you pass libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 from new? [03:29] Probably not tonight. [03:29] Also needs FFe. [03:29] will file [03:34] I feel sily [03:34] silly [05:30] hm [05:30] * (ktimetracker) [i386] < in the seeds [05:31] any particular reason why only for i386? [05:38] Morning all [05:42] hi jussi [05:43] heya shadeslayer === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [08:03] Riddell: ping [08:32] ->lunch [08:52] could someone explain, in detail, how the kubuntu-desktop task get's generated? [09:04] shadeslayer: yo? [09:04] pm [09:11] Riddell: oh btw : * (ktimetracker) [i386] < in the seeds [09:11] any reason why we don't want ktt on amd64 [09:12] spooky [09:12] go ahead and fix it [09:12] ok [09:13] should I just drop the i386? [09:13] or add amd64 ( does it make sense to have ktt on arm/ppc/etc ) [09:13] just drop i386 [09:14] okay [09:15] although running it I get an error box saying "Could not create the KTimeTracker part." [09:15] Riddell: the other question being, why do we have the desktop file from seeds in kubuntu-meta ? [09:16] shadeslayer: how do you mean? [09:16] well .... pull-lp-source kubuntu-meta [09:16] and the desktop file from seeds ( not desktop-i386 or amd64 ) is in there [09:17] oh dunno, can be removed [09:17] and looks like something is horribly wrong with ktt [09:18] shadeslayer: best remove it from the seed until we find out what [09:18] ok [09:19] fixed [09:20] good guy bzr, says you don't have a push destination, tells you how to fix it [09:21] Riddell: want me to fix the meta package as well? [09:21] * shadeslayer keeps typing kubuntu-meat instead of kubuntu-meta [09:22] ah yes, this also reminds me of another bug [09:22] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop^ differs from kubuntu-desktop [09:23] iirc kubuntu-desktop^ depends on kde-workspace [09:23] the meta package does not [09:28] hmm curious [09:29] shadeslayer: can you add kde-workspace to the seed, just incase that causes problems [09:30] syre [09:30] *sure [09:31] Riddell: can I drop kde-workspace-bin ? kde-workspace already depends on it [09:31] yeah [09:32] done [09:38] wtf [09:38] X hogging all memory [09:38] bbiab [09:52] bleh, X corruption all around === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:01] Riddell: ktimetracker is supposed to be fixed in 4.9.1 according to the upstream bug [11:01] ah hah [11:07] meta-kde-telepathy 0.5.0ubuntu1 produces uninstallable binaries: [11:07] kde-telepathy [11:07] shadeslayer: can you see what's up there? [11:09] stuff in New [11:09] aah [11:09] shadeslayer: ktp-debugger needs FFe then. ScottK: can you pass libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 from new? Also needs FFe. [11:10] who's up for filing some FFe's? [11:10] :D [11:13] Riddell: iirc caligraactive needs a bit of investigation [11:13] shadeslayer: how so? [11:14] bug 981438 [11:14] Launchpad bug 981438 in calligra (Ubuntu) "calligraactive does not start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981438 [11:14] upstream says : shadeslayer: hi, as ingwa pointed out, after 105146c7114882bde6e1adf7e28376892c18a070, CA wont complain about metadata models not installed [11:15] Upstream also fixed bug 998324 [11:15] Launchpad bug 998324 in calligra (Ubuntu) "Calligra Words should not replace Kate file associations" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998324 [11:15] so we might want the patch included [11:17] bleh, X usage increasing again :( [11:20] https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/66ca55e975eb6272199acc7b201b0bf6d80e2b63/diff/words/part/words.desktop [11:20] shadeslayer: well I'm packaging up 2.5.1 [11:20] oh ok [11:20] so that should include those fixes [11:20] * shadeslayer is not sure if that patch is in 2.5.1 [11:21] let's see :) [11:21] hmm you're right, it's not [11:21] I wonder what X-Calligra-DefaultMimeTypes= is anyway [11:21] it's in the 2.5 branch though [11:22] Riddell: afaict KDE uses that to determine which application should open a file when 2 apps are associated with the same mimetype [11:23] so if you right click a text file > open with > Calligra is placed above kate [11:25] hmm I'm not convinced but ok [11:25] you could edit the desktop file and check :) [11:35] shadeslayer: no change, only MimeType= affects dolphin, which is as it should be [11:36] X-Calligra-DefaultMimeTypes= must do something internal [11:38] hm [11:38] dunno then, I showed upstream the bug and they said that that's how they can handle it [11:39] iirc there's another way to set it [11:39] s/it/the default application for a mimetype [11:39] keditfiletype text/plain [11:58] qt 5 beta out http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5-Beta [11:58] but no split tars [11:58] I'm not sure it's worth the time to package it until they split the tars cos that'll mean re-packaging it [12:01] darn [12:01] beat me to it [12:05] Most notably, you will need decent OpenGL drivers on Windows for Qt Quick to work, and there are issues remaining with Qt Multimedia on platforms *other than Linux.* [12:05] that makes me feel good inside :P [12:06] Riddell, you mean http://nargothrond.macieira.info/~thiago/split_sources/ ? [12:07] mikhas: interesting [12:07] ::workspace-bugs:: [1043573] Overlapping icons in KDE Task Manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1043573 (by David Burleigh) [12:07] Launchpad bug 1043573 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Overlapping icons in KDE Task Manager " [Undecided,New] [12:19] heh [13:53] shadeslayer: still up? any idea why ktp is being held back in quantal ? === keffie_jayx is now known as effiejayx [14:05] jussi01: yes, stuff being held in binary new atm [14:06] I haven't had the time to file FFe's for it, will do tomorrow ( I thought they were covered by the meta FFe, apparently not ( [14:09] shadeslayer: ahh ok [14:13] ::workspace-bugs:: [1043852] [kde-netbook] different background images @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1043852 (by Exsudat) [14:13] Launchpad bug 1043852 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "[kde-netbook] different background images" [Undecided,New] [14:22] ubottu: ignore kubotu [14:22] The operation succeeded. [14:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about ignore kubotu [14:22] heh, wot [14:22] jussi01: can you make !find find stuff from quantal? [14:23] instead of precise [14:23] !find kde quantal [14:23] Found: kdelibs-bin, kdelibs5-data, kdelibs5-dbg, kdelibs5-dev, language-pack-kde-zh-hans, language-pack-kde-zh-hans-base, language-pack-kde-zh-hant, language-pack-kde-zh-hant-base, libkde3support4, libkdeclarative5 (and 539 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde&searchon=names&suite=quantal§ion=all [14:23] like that? [14:23] sure, but I'm lazy and don't want to type quantal [14:23] !find kde [14:23] Found: apturl-kde, debconf-kde-dbg, kde-config-gtk, kde-config-touchpad, kde-l10n-csb, kde-l10n-eo, kde-l10n-fy, kde-l10n-gu, kde-l10n-hi, kde-l10n-kn (and 531 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all [14:23] oh you poor thing :P [14:24] should just find using quantal [14:24] yes, typing quantal is too annoying :P [14:24] yeah, you can usually assume that people in here would search in quantal [14:25] * shadeslayer hi5's yofel [14:25] * yofel hi5's back [14:25] any news on UDS sponsorships? [14:27] !find shadeslayer [14:27] Package/file shadeslayer does not exist in quantal [14:27] aw :( [14:28] * shadeslayer hugs ubottu anyway [14:28] shadeslayer: hows that huh? [14:28] that hurt :( [14:28] maybe .. I exist in quantal [14:28] * yofel hugs jussi01 :) [14:29] but then you didn't enable quantal by default, and I'm lazy ... [14:29] ergh === jussi01 is now known as jussi [14:29] shadeslayer: I did enable quantal by default... [14:29] in here... [14:29] oh [14:29] ok [14:29] awesome [14:29] jussi++ [14:30] you just wanted the karma didn't you [14:30] I can't point a finger [14:30] * highvoltage is a karma whore [14:31] shadeslayer: nah, I just want that ktp feature ;) [14:31] riiiighhhhttt [14:31] highvoltage: back to your old nick I see [14:31] hmm ... my plasma script doesn't run [14:31] jussi: yeah I couldn't get used to the new one [14:32] jussi: I guess I'm stuck with 'highvoltage' for life. [14:32] highvoltage: :D [14:32] highvoltage: Im still waiting for some information from you [14:32] * jussi PMS [14:32] ah right [14:32] I'll get to that today :) === dpm is now known as dpm-laptop === rbelem_ is now known as rbelem [15:48] shadeslayer: allyrighty :-) [15:48] :D [15:48] god, i suck at spelling today [15:49] shumski: btw I'm not familiar with firefox-kde.patch [15:49] I just did some minor changes to debian/rules to make ff build [15:49] afaik apachelogger handles that part [15:50] shadeslayer: yes, formerly it was done to copy mozilla's browser.xul and then patch it, now it pulled from /dev/null [15:52] shadeslayer: actually, yes, only firefox-kde.patch really changed for ff15, mozilla-kde is the same [15:52] I'm wondering why we need this : https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/firefox-kde-114.patch [15:54] shadeslayer: i think that's really not needed. that's SuSE specific [15:54] yeah [15:54] the less we patch ff, the more maintainable it becomes ... [15:55] https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/firefox-kde.patch is what gives me nightmares tbh [15:55] especially seeing how stuff is ifdef'd in there for OS X and Windows [15:57] yeah, don't know why is that needed. for kde on windows perhaps? :D [15:57] I ... don't even want to support that usecase [15:58] :D [15:58] that's just setting yourself up for so much fail [15:58] also, kde.js is not really needed [15:58] awesome, we can drop more stuff [15:58] thats only relevant on the first run [15:58] shumski: are you sure though? [15:59] last time I checked the build failed [15:59] because kde.js was in the file manifest [15:59] well, it's mentioned in firefox-kde patch, but you can drop it from there [15:59] tested - works [15:59] alrighty [15:59] or mozilla-kde [16:00] no, last hunk of firefox-kde [16:01] actually, moz-kde does mention kde.js as well [16:01] https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/mozilla-kde.patch [16:01] pfft [16:02] pref("browser.preferences.instantApply", false); < If I read that right, that just disables applying preferences instantaneously [16:02] ahh, maybe that's an ugly hack to determine we are inside kde session ? [16:02] yes [16:03] i think it doesn't for some time with vanilla ff [16:04] I have no idea, I'm looking at the patches for the first time :) [16:04] plus, really tired [16:04] I think I'll go sleep now [16:04] shumski: will try and clean up the patches on Monday [16:04] shadeslayer: i also need to grab something to eat, we'll discuss it later :) [16:04] shadeslayer: OK, cool [16:05] shumski: I'm around from 8 AM IST to 9 PM IST [16:05] so feel free to email/ping on irc [16:05] will do :) [16:05] night everyone :) [16:05] night :) === dpm-laptop is now known as dpm === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [16:12] found the split tarballs: http://releases.qt-project.org/qt5.0/beta1/split_sources/ [16:21] according to the todo, canonical has some preliminary packaging here: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-daily/ [16:21] thought it doesn't seem to split the modules up in to binary packages. (1 package per source) [16:24] JontheEchidna: right it's very simple packaging that [16:25] Riddell: I suppose we'd use those as a base, then upload improved packages to kubuntu-ppa/experimental? [16:26] JontheEchidna: that would be a plan yes [16:31] I'll write something up for the notes.kde.org pad [16:32] great thanks [16:36] can you help me a bit with buiding lightdm: http://pastebin.com/R9RD7W5H ? [16:38] soee: you need liblightdm-qt-2-dev [16:39] ok let me try [16:40] Qt5 todo set up on the kubuntu-ninjas notepad: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas [16:40] hmm it requires a lot of extra packages :/ [16:40] gtk related [16:41] soee: so does lightdm :p [16:41] try with --no-install-recommends [16:42] sudo apt-get build-dep lightdm-kde-greeter --no-install-recommends [16:42] \o [16:42] Quintasan_: how've you been? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:43] JontheEchidna: Fine, my connection was bad :P [16:43] :P [16:43] started uni yet? [16:43] Sorting out minor stiff and trying to pass that damn driving license [16:43] JontheEchidna: nah, uni starts in more than a month [16:43] ah, cool [16:43] mine started this monday :s [16:44] ok now how can i switch to lightdm ? [16:44] JontheEchidna: Enjoy :P [16:44] haha [16:47] soee: did you install lightdm? [16:47] shumski, yes [16:48] soee: ok, than do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm [16:48] and choose lightdm [16:49] shumski, but this do nothing [16:49] I've been tryinto install firefox-kde from the blue shell ppa , which I added to the sources.list and aupdated , but the ff-kde isn't being located there [16:50] soee: no dialog? [16:50] am I missing something ? [16:50] shadeslayer, ? [16:51] shumski, ok it looks like lightdm is not installed [16:51] soee: something like this: http://i.imgur.com/pEVx5.png [16:51] but first of all - ir requires a lot of other packages right ? indicators etc ? [16:52] BluesKaj: I have signed off for the day ... :), hopefully someone else will be able to help [16:52] soee: don't know about that, try with sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lightdm [16:52] http://pastebin.com/PchfwiAh [16:52] soee: so it doesn't pull the recommendencies [16:53] wrong package soee [16:53] its lightdm kde greeter or sth [16:53] huh? [16:54] soee: i'm a little rusty with polish :D [16:54] !find lightdm-kde [16:54] Found: lightdm-kde-greeter [16:54] that ^ [16:55] yeah thats better [16:56] ok done :) thank you === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [16:56] oh an lightdm has separate configuration section as i see [16:56] shadeslayer, so you're still here , should I just install plain firefox since firefox-kde isn't available altho I've installed firefox-kde-support [16:57] BluesKaj: barely, there's no firefox-kde :) [16:57] you need to install the blue shell PPA and the version of ff in that ppa [16:58] you can do that with sudo apt-get install firefox=version [16:58] well the ppa shows firefox -kde is available in the ppa , shadeslayer , but it's not loacted when I try to instrall it [16:59] uhh .... [16:59] that's weird [16:59] yeah [16:59] BluesKaj: you're on precise ? [16:59] nope , quantal [17:00] installed the quantal ppa [17:00] hm, I am not sure, it should work .. [17:00] https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde [17:00] did you do a apt-get update? [17:00] yes [17:00] iut's listed in syanaptic as well [17:01] There's no firefox-kde in the pool: http://ppa.launchpad.net/blue-shell/firefox-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/ [17:01] dafuq [17:02] how is that even possible [17:02] there's firefox-kde-support, but no firefox-kde [17:03] ah yes, there is no ff kde afaik [17:03] then it should be changed on launchpad , they have sudo apt-get install firefox-kde as part of the instructions [17:04] on the ppa that is [17:05] fixed [17:05] thx for pointing that out :) [17:12] looks like the same ol' FF to me ...maybe it will be smoother and quicker with kde support [17:14] BluesKaj: basically, you'll get this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCt6BzFiDts [18:16] ::qt-bugs:: [1003721] VLC causes massive disk usage when accessing settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1003721 (by actionparsnip) === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh === zarvox_ is now known as zarvox [21:14] 18:05 < infinity> Riddell: Did you have any plans to fix the symbols files in telepathy-qt for ARM and PPC? It's been FTBFS all month... [21:15] note to anyone ^ [21:18] shadeslayer: ^^^