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dbc254still trying to get Kmail to stop deleting instead of depositing in TRASH01:01
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rottingdeadAnybody else having issues with ktorrent causing screen blanking????01:08
rottingdeadI hit Ctrl + Alt + F1, and ran pkill ktorrent, and that logged me out of KDE, sounds very strange, eh?01:10
rottingdeadWhat's the kubunu bug tracker?01:11
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raphulwm04:17
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subcoolok- headache is still here06:31
subcooli just upgraded to 12.04.1 lts - but- im missing my wifi network manager on the task bar..06:32
hateballsubcool: rightclick that area, and add it06:39
hateballsubcool: that is, rightclick and get "Settings for System tray", then you should be able to choose "extra items" and the network manager06:39
hateballI am using swedish locale so translations may be wrong, but that's the general idea06:40
subcoolhateball, thanks!!! :)06:53
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hateballsubcool: Good that it worked out for you :)07:06
baffone85is there a software to stream a video made with a normal digital camera?07:07
hateballbaffone85: I think you can do that in Kdenlive07:08
hateballEmphasis on *think*07:09
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nezumihowdy09:18
nezumiI keep getting to know better with Kubuntu but would be nicer if I had some sound09:19
nezumi;)09:19
nezumianyone could give me a hand?09:19
nezumiI checked obvious things like volume and I just added some ppa from ubuntu (not that I know what I am doing)09:20
nezumianybody?09:27
hateballnezumi: what chipset do you have? does it show up in the volume control applet?09:59
hateballnezumi: And what have you used to test sound? Local media files, flash, etc?09:59
nezumithx hateball! this time I fixed it on my own10:01
hateball:)10:03
nezuminow I am trying to get latest gimp with very little luck though10:03
nezumisupposedly its enough to type "apt-get install gimp" to get latest version of GIMP10:07
nezumibut it shows some Permission denied and asking if I am root10:08
nezumiso I am kinda stuck here,,10:08
SurViVALAttaCKHallo, ich bin Hitler.10:24
hateball!sudo | nezumi10:38
ubottunezumi: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo10:38
hateball!muon | nezumi10:39
ubottunezumi: Muon is the current Kubuntu package manager. Please see http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ for an overview10:39
nezumithx10:41
nezumiin manager is older version I guess10:41
hateballnezumi: It's the same no matter if you use the CLI or the GUI10:43
hateballAnd as it happens, 2.6 is what's shipped with 12.0410:44
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BluesKajHi all11:46
Peace-HI BluesKaj11:49
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BluesKajhi Peace-11:54
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Belial`anyone updated to 4.9 and not able to hide the tabs in konsole?14:08
noaXesshey al14:11
noaXessi instealled latest mysql-workbench on my kubuntu 12.04, 64it, but performance of mysql workbench is slow, any hint?14:11
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Guest48352Hello Can you help me to add irc.kde.org to Quassel. What and where do I have to paste to connect to #kontact channel14:18
PiciGuest48352: Just type: /join #contact14:19
Guest48352Thank you. It works.14:21
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markitanyone has tried the blue-shell repo for firefox-kde-support? ppa:blue-shell/firefox-kde I've installed but if I right click on the download window and select "open" it asks me wich app use to ope the pdf, or the folder15:07
markitin short, seems not to work... maybe FF15 broke it?15:07
shadeslayermarkit: most likely15:08
shadeslayerI have to update it for FF1515:08
markitshadeslayer: are you the (one of the) author?15:08
shadeslayerWill most likely work on it next week15:08
shadeslayeryeah, one of the maintainers15:09
markitshadeslayer: God bless you :)15:09
shadeslayerhaha :D15:09
shadeslayerthe other one is apachelogger :P15:09
markitI'm deploying KDE as LTSP in school... without this support I'm doomed15:09
markitshadeslayer: extend your holiness to him15:09
shadeslayermarkit: I'm afraid I won't be able to update it before next week, swamped with other work15:10
markit(don't have time to check the dictionary, hope to have said it right)15:10
markitmonday morning?  ;P15:10
markitshadeslayer: I've no idea about that problem... should be trivial for FF ask for the "OS default" app for stuff15:10
shadeslayerheh, I'll look over how to update it on Monday, no gurantees when I'll have a working thing15:11
markitshadeslayer: I mean, if I click on a pdf link, it asks me if I want to open with Okular or save15:11
markitonce I've saved, if I right click and select "open" it asks me "with what?"15:11
shadeslayerhm15:11
shadeslayerdoes that happen with 14 as well?15:11
markitand sure for a children open a termina, enter wich okular, copy and paste the path is NOT easy15:12
shadeslayerkmozhelper is a bit of POS15:12
markityep15:12
markit(as far as I remember)15:12
shadeslayeractually, you can just type okular15:12
shadeslayerand it will pick up the right binary15:12
markitshadeslayer: let me try15:12
shadeslayerthough I don't expect a user to remember Okular15:13
markitshadeslayer: I can't type okular... where?15:13
shadeslayerthey'll refer to it as a PDF Viewer at most ;P15:13
markit£Select an application" and the "select" button15:13
markitthat brings me to a file pickup dialog15:13
shadeslayercan you show me a screenshot of what you get when you click open?15:13
markit(btw, I've the interface in italian, translating on the fly)15:13
markitsure, hold on15:14
shadeslayerthat's fine :)15:14
shadeslayermarkit: fwiw you can hold the ff packages if you want15:15
shadeslayerlike, you can tell apt to install 14 and only upgrade to 15 when you unhold the package15:15
markitshadeslayer: ehm, I've already updated to FF15 yesterday15:15
shadeslayeryou can go back :D15:16
markithow can I send you the screenshots15:16
markit?15:16
shadeslayer!imagebin15:16
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.15:16
markitshadeslayer: http://imagebin.org/22645915:17
shadeslayerah mm15:17
markitdo you want also the one when I click on Scegli (select)?15:17
shadeslayeryes please15:18
markithttp://imagebin.org/22646115:18
shadeslayererp15:20
shadeslayerherp derp15:20
markitI've a kvm VM with 12.04 updated, so is a "fresh" configuration with only marginal tuning like double click to open a folder15:20
shadeslayermarkit: ok, I'll look into this, will probably take some time though15:20
markitshadeslayer: ok, how to install 14 then?15:21
shadeslayermarkit: sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal115:21
markit(if easy to explain and does not abuse your time and patience)15:21
shadeslayerofcourse not15:21
markitquantal? I've 12.04, same name  or do I have to change?15:21
shadeslayeroh bah15:22
shadeslayeryou're on precise15:22
markityes, the name "ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1" puzzles me15:22
shadeslayermarkit: sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa215:22
markitok, thanks :)15:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: that version makes my eyes bleed15:23
markitlet me try it with your -kde stuff15:23
shadeslayerI think I've mentioned that before15:23
shadeslayermarkit: make sure you have https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde enabled15:23
markitI've done add-apt-repository ppa:blue-shell/firefox-kde15:24
markitbut will I have just firefox-kde-support or a special version of firefox itself?15:25
shadeslayerthe latter15:25
markitAH, I've not I guess15:25
markitff15 is not from there15:26
markitok, ff14 will b e15:26
markitso you have to recompile ALL firefox just to provide support for kde? crazy :(15:27
markitmozilla foundation should be more kind with us15:27
markitshadeslayer: with that version works like a charm, just the language packs are of FF15 and I need the ones of FF1415:30
markit(great work!)15:30
markitoh, they are on your repo as well, perferct15:31
shumskishadeslayer: do we need entire license, this refreshed one is upstream browser.xul: http://tinyurl.com/cdlszgd15:42
shumski*is as15:42
shadeslayershumski: my main concern is that the authors of the file have been dropped15:43
markitshadeslayer: ehm, so I need ff from your repo AND firefox-kde-support (that seems not a dependency)?15:44
shumskishadeslayer: who's that? there are several people mentioned in the 'old' one. but upstream's doesn't mention anyone15:45
shadeslayermarkit: yes, both are required, like I said earlier, KDE integration is split into 2 parts15:45
shadeslayeror 3 packages if you will15:45
markit3? which is the 3°?15:46
shadeslayershumski: yeah, also #kubuntu-devel15:46
markitfirefox-globalmenu ?15:46
shadeslayermarkit: kmozillahelper , firefox-kde-support and firefox itself15:46
shadeslayerah, kmozhelper is just a transitional package, so yeah, 2 packages15:47
markitok :)15:47
shumskishadeslayer: hm? don't see kubuntu-devel mentioned15:47
shadeslayershumski: no, I meant come hang out in #kubuntu-devel15:47
shadeslayer:P15:47
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BluesKajshadeslayer, added the ppas and updated but firefox-kde firefox-kde-support aren't located when I try to install16:26
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markitBlaXpirit: firefox-kde does not exist, firefox-kde-support does, as far as I understand17:08
markitsorry17:09
markitBluesKaj:17:09
faLUCEhi. I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. However, in /etc/apt/sources.list I still see "oneiric" in the lines of repos. why?17:09
BluesKajyes markit , I just found that out ... a bit disappointing actually17:09
markitBluesKaj: why? normally you install firefox and it gets that one for kde, but now it would pick up the 15 version, that is not in their repo17:12
markitwhat I've done is: with apt-cache policy see the exact name of the package I need from their repo17:13
markitand then with apt-get install packagename=theirpackagenamenandversion instal them17:13
markitlike for firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en17:14
markitwhile firefox-kde-support comes only from their repo, so it's not a problem17:14
markitBluesKaj: what version of ff have you installed on your system?17:14
BluesKajmarkit, I've had 15 all along ..seems the same to me , even with the kde support package17:15
markitBluesKaj: you have to grab the 14 version from them, or wait next week when they will update to 15 too17:16
markitand an update of your system will bring to you their 15 version17:16
markitthen you'd better put "on hold" (aptitude hold) those packages17:16
markitI mean firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en17:17
markitand un-hold only when there is an update and their version is available17:17
markitBluesKaj: are you found with bash shell (terminal)?17:17
markitor wait some minutes that I boot up my kubuntu 12.04 version and grab the history and tell you what to do :)17:18
markitBluesKaj: are you english speaker? I mean, you use the -en language pack of firefox?17:19
BluesKajmarkit, I'm on 12.10 , FF 15 is default ..and I installed FF after installing the blue shell ppa. I purged the previous FF that i had installed , the added the ppa and install firefox-kde-support , before installing FF again17:20
markitBluesKaj: open the termina, ok?17:21
markitterminal17:21
markitthen enter:17:21
markitsudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 firefox-globalmenu=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 firefox-locale-en=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa217:21
markityou will go back to FF14 took from THEIR repository17:21
BluesKajmarkit, ? why I'm on quantal , not precise17:22
markitah, I see, then you have to figure out the exact name yourself with apt-cache17:22
markiti.e. apt-cache policy firefox17:23
markitlook at the one listed that comes from their repositories17:23
markitand use that long name in firefox=xyz as above17:23
markitok?17:23
markitBluesKaj: I'm a bit busy... are you going to do it or may I leave you?17:26
BluesKajthey had firefox-kde listed on the ppa site/launchpad , but it doesn't exist and they admitted as much when I pointed out that out to them on kubuntu-devel . so i assume after purging FF , adding the ppa tosources, then updating and installing firefox-kde-support , that when installing firefox again it will receive kde support as intended.17:27
BluesKajmarkit,^17:27
markitBluesKaj: so I thought some hours ago when I tried first time17:28
markitbut the developer explained to me that you need their customized version of firefox too17:28
markitand right now, they don't have FF15 version available17:28
markitso when you ask your system to install firefox, it takes the most updated version17:28
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BluesKajthen they should list the correct versionin the ppa and add it ..the way it stands it's a mess17:29
markitthat is ff15 from the "official" repository, that will not work with firefox-kde-support17:29
BluesKajmarkit,^17:29
markitBluesKaj: I've no idea, I'm available to tell you how I solved, ask shadeslayer about their packages17:30
BluesKajmarkit, maybe  because you se precise , i use quantal , and it use ff 15 by default17:30
markitbut I feel really gratefull to them for their work, so be kind :)17:30
markitBluesKaj: precise has FF15 since some days17:30
markityou can't have "by default", FF15 is out since some days only17:30
BluesKajshadeslayer, already knows about the problem17:31
markitok, so seems you don't need my help, I misunderstood then17:31
markitI go back to my occupations :)17:31
shadeslayerBluesKaj: make sure you don't get ff 1517:31
shadeslayerbecause that's what you will get by default17:31
BluesKajshadeslayer, the where do i get the correct version ?17:32
BluesKajthen17:32
shadeslayeryou need to specify the version in the ppa17:32
markitBluesKaj: btw, I told you with above info17:32
BluesKajok markit thanks ill try that17:32
shadeslayersudo apt-get install firefox= 14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal117:33
shadeslayerfor quantal17:33
BluesKajok shadeslayer thanks , i'll try that17:36
shadeslayeryou also need the Firefox-kde-support package ofcourse :)17:37
markitand firefox-globalmenu and firefox-locale-en AFAIU17:38
shumskimarkit: why globalmenu? in kde?17:39
shadeslayer^17:39
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BluesKajshadeslayer, I already installed the ff kde support package , but unfortunately :  Couldn't find any package by regex '14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal117:39
shadeslayer0.o17:40
shadeslayerpossibly my phone failed at copying it properly?17:40
BluesKajthe ppa doesn't seem the same17:40
shumskiBluesKaj: http://ppa.launchpad.net/blue-shell/firefox-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1_amd64.deb17:41
shumskiif you're 64bit17:41
BluesKajbbiab , postman has delivered some mail17:41
markitshumski: don't know it's a dependency problem I think17:42
markitBluesKaj: no space between firefox=xyz ? you wrote firefox= xyz (don't know if is that the problem, just guessing)17:43
shumskimarkit: you can remove globalmenu package so it won't bug you in future versions17:43
markitshumski: will it complain about broken dependency?17:43
markitshumski: ok, does not complain17:44
shadeslayermarkit: did you just install a quantal deb on a precise system ? :P17:45
markitshadeslayer: a precise 12.0417:46
shumskino!17:46
shumskithat link was for qq17:47
shadeslayer^17:47
markitshumski: I'm ok, is BluesKaj that needs to install, and HE has quanta17:47
shumskiok, we thought you installed that .deb17:47
markitI downgraded to ff14 and installed from blue repo some hours ago, and works like a charm17:48
shumskimarkit: cool17:49
BluesKajshumski, shadeslayer , markit , ok i have FF 14.1  installed now , seems better than 15 , java and flash seem to load faster , already have the ff kde support package installed18:06
shadeslayerw00t18:06
BluesKajthe deb had to be installed with dpkg, the installer gui doesn't open the install button , it's greyed out , shumski18:07
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shadeslayerI know why that is :)18:09
shadeslayeron quantal GUI won't let you install packages older than what is installed via the archives18:10
DreadtowerHi folks18:10
DreadtowerLooks like my plasma desktop has fallen over18:11
DreadtowerIt's stuck with a 'no running jons' notification hanging18:11
DreadtowerAny ideas?18:11
BluesKajyeah , i assumed it was the case , because when launched , FF takes me to download page to upgraqde to 15 , saying my version is old , shadeslayer18:11
shadeslayeryeah, I need to merge shumski patches and release to the ppa18:12
shadeslayerjust give me some time ;)18:13
DreadtowerI'm going to capture this LTVT DEM overlay of Grimaldi and come back after reboot18:14
shumskishadeslayer: why is that? the 'older packages' situation?18:15
shadeslayershumski: idk, you can choose a specific version using muon18:15
shadeslayermaybe debi just doesnt allow that ?18:16
shumskiand always been like that, even in gdebi times :)18:16
shumskiit would warn you about older/newer version is software chanel18:17
shumskishadeslayer: re: firefox vs. firefox-kde; it would be a good idea to rename the package to firefox-kde, so users don't have to pin18:20
shumskiand made it conflicts regular firefox18:20
shadeslayerdunno, seems like a awful lot of delta18:21
BluesKajhmm, just as I suspected , apt wants to upgrade firefox as soon I do an upgrade18:30
shumskiBluesKaj: you need to lock it18:34
BluesKajnever locked  an app,18:36
shumskihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:38
BluesKajlocked it in synaptic ...ok18:43
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BluesKajhmm, I updated , but apt still wants to upgrade firefox , will it be ignored ?18:50
BluesKajI have  a nvidia upgrade waiting ... shumski ?18:51
shumskifor apt/dpg look this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt.2BAC8-Dpkg-118:52
shumskiyou locked it only for synaptic18:52
shumskibut it will be updated if you update through apt-get/aptitude18:52
shumskihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt.2BAC8-Dpkg18:53
shumskithis is the right link, previous is about removing the lock18:53
shumskifor holding firefox you'll do: echo firefox hold | dpkg --set-selections18:58
shumskiBluesKaj: to remove that lock - echo firefox install | dpkg --set-selections18:59
BluesKajshumski yeah , done , thanks19:03
shumskiBluesKaj:cool  :-)19:07
BluesKajshumski, ok , added the commands to my reference CLI commands file ..I have to keep them in a textfile due to my less the na good memory19:11
BluesKajless than good...thanks for the help , shumski19:12
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shumskiBluesKaj: :-D19:14
shumskino problem19:14
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markitehm, what about aptitude? aptitude hold firefox19:41
markitaptitude unhold firefox19:41
markitworks great ;P19:41
markit[19:16] <markit> then you'd better put "on hold" (aptitude hold) those packages19:42
BluesKajmarkit, I haven't used aptitude in a while , won't apt-get hold work19:43
BluesKaj?19:43
markitBluesKaj: I've no idea, since shumskisuttested you something with "echo firefox hold | dpkg --set-selections" I thought was not possible19:55
markits/suttested/suggested19:55
BluesKajmarkit, I'll check aptitude again , altho i understand it still has a warning about dependencies on 64 bit architecture19:59
BluesKaj!aptitude19:59
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.19:59
BluesKajok, "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled"20:00
shumskiBluesKaj: i believe that's fixed for newer version. also, i *think* aptitude hold, holds only for aptitude (not sure)20:03
BluesKajshumski, yes that makes sense20:04
shumskihttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=14620720:09
ubottuDebian bug 146207 in aptitude "aptitude: in command-line mode ignores hold set by dpkg --set-selections" [Normal,Open]20:09
markitwell, I left apt-get to aptitude long time ago... it was labeled as "the improvement of apt-get"... wonders why there have been a step back20:14
shumskito me, it makes sense only on Debian. if you like to mix testing/sid/experimental20:17
* markit uses debian sid on his workstation20:17
markitshumski: seemd to me that has a wider and more powerful management of dependencies and so on20:18
markitbut I made the switch years ago, things change..20:18
shumskimarkit: yes, more smart (sometimes too smart) with deps then apt-get20:20
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BluesKajnow kate is crashing on 12.10 ...strange the OS has been fine up until apha 3 , then graphics , permissions and text editor problems , one after another20:22
shumskiwhere does it crash?20:24
markithem, can't answer, also chat program crashed20:26
shumski:D20:27
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frogonwheels_I though pulseaudio was doing fine, but it seems minecraft(I'm guessing java)+pulseaudio is particularly nasty.  Uninstalling :|22:24
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vividanyway to decrease the notifications in kubuntu?  its really annoying to have a huge list of nothing important as notifications.  eg X has logged in.  Y has logged out.  on and on22:46
vividim using pidgin, for example, and its really annoying.  i would like to see notifications that ive received a message with pidgin, but not that the same 150 people are logging on or off.22:48
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