[01:01] <dbc254> still trying to get Kmail to stop deleting instead of depositing in TRASH
[01:08] <rottingdead> Anybody else having issues with ktorrent causing screen blanking????
[01:10] <rottingdead> I hit Ctrl + Alt + F1, and ran pkill ktorrent, and that logged me out of KDE, sounds very strange, eh?
[01:11] <rottingdead> What's the kubunu bug tracker?
[04:17] <raphul> wm
[06:31] <subcool> ok- headache is still here
[06:32] <subcool> i just upgraded to 12.04.1 lts - but- im missing my wifi network manager on the task bar..
[06:39] <hateball> subcool: rightclick that area, and add it
[06:39] <hateball> subcool: that is, rightclick and get "Settings for System tray", then you should be able to choose "extra items" and the network manager
[06:40] <hateball> I am using swedish locale so translations may be wrong, but that's the general idea
[06:53] <subcool> hateball, thanks!!! :)
[07:06] <hateball> subcool: Good that it worked out for you :)
[07:07] <baffone85> is there a software to stream a video made with a normal digital camera?
[07:08] <hateball> baffone85: I think you can do that in Kdenlive
[07:09] <hateball> Emphasis on *think*
[09:18] <nezumi> howdy
[09:19] <nezumi> I keep getting to know better with Kubuntu but would be nicer if I had some sound
[09:19] <nezumi> ;)
[09:19] <nezumi> anyone could give me a hand?
[09:20] <nezumi> I checked obvious things like volume and I just added some ppa from ubuntu (not that I know what I am doing)
[09:27] <nezumi> anybody?
[09:59] <hateball> nezumi: what chipset do you have? does it show up in the volume control applet?
[09:59] <hateball> nezumi: And what have you used to test sound? Local media files, flash, etc?
[10:01] <nezumi> thx hateball! this time I fixed it on my own
[10:03] <hateball> :)
[10:03] <nezumi> now I am trying to get latest gimp with very little luck though
[10:07] <nezumi> supposedly its enough to type "apt-get install gimp" to get latest version of GIMP
[10:08] <nezumi> but it shows some Permission denied and asking if I am root
[10:08] <nezumi> so I am kinda stuck here,,
[10:24] <SurViVALAttaCK> Hallo, ich bin Hitler.
[10:38] <hateball> !sudo | nezumi
[10:39] <hateball> !muon | nezumi
[10:41] <nezumi> thx
[10:41] <nezumi> in manager is older version I guess
[10:43] <hateball> nezumi: It's the same no matter if you use the CLI or the GUI
[10:44] <hateball> And as it happens, 2.6 is what's shipped with 12.04
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:49] <Peace-> HI BluesKaj
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[14:08] <Belial`> anyone updated to 4.9 and not able to hide the tabs in konsole?
[14:11] <noaXess> hey al
[14:11] <noaXess> i instealled latest mysql-workbench on my kubuntu 12.04, 64it, but performance of mysql workbench is slow, any hint?
[14:18] <Guest48352> Hello Can you help me to add irc.kde.org to Quassel. What and where do I have to paste to connect to #kontact channel
[14:19] <Pici> Guest48352: Just type: /join #contact
[14:21] <Guest48352> Thank you. It works.
[15:07] <markit> anyone has tried the blue-shell repo for firefox-kde-support? ppa:blue-shell/firefox-kde I've installed but if I right click on the download window and select "open" it asks me wich app use to ope the pdf, or the folder
[15:07] <markit> in short, seems not to work... maybe FF15 broke it?
[15:08] <shadeslayer> markit: most likely
[15:08] <shadeslayer> I have to update it for FF15
[15:08] <markit> shadeslayer: are you the (one of the) author?
[15:08] <shadeslayer> Will most likely work on it next week
[15:09] <shadeslayer> yeah, one of the maintainers
[15:09] <markit> shadeslayer: God bless you :)
[15:09] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[15:09] <shadeslayer> the other one is apachelogger :P
[15:09] <markit> I'm deploying KDE as LTSP in school... without this support I'm doomed
[15:09] <markit> shadeslayer: extend your holiness to him
[15:10] <shadeslayer> markit: I'm afraid I won't be able to update it before next week, swamped with other work
[15:10] <markit> (don't have time to check the dictionary, hope to have said it right)
[15:10] <markit> monday morning?  ;P
[15:10] <markit> shadeslayer: I've no idea about that problem... should be trivial for FF ask for the "OS default" app for stuff
[15:11] <shadeslayer> heh, I'll look over how to update it on Monday, no gurantees when I'll have a working thing
[15:11] <markit> shadeslayer: I mean, if I click on a pdf link, it asks me if I want to open with Okular or save
[15:11] <markit> once I've saved, if I right click and select "open" it asks me "with what?"
[15:11] <shadeslayer> hm
[15:11] <shadeslayer> does that happen with 14 as well?
[15:12] <markit> and sure for a children open a termina, enter wich okular, copy and paste the path is NOT easy
[15:12] <shadeslayer> kmozhelper is a bit of POS
[15:12] <markit> yep
[15:12] <markit> (as far as I remember)
[15:12] <shadeslayer> actually, you can just type okular
[15:12] <shadeslayer> and it will pick up the right binary
[15:12] <markit> shadeslayer: let me try
[15:13] <shadeslayer> though I don't expect a user to remember Okular
[15:13] <markit> shadeslayer: I can't type okular... where?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> they'll refer to it as a PDF Viewer at most ;P
[15:13] <markit> £Select an application" and the "select" button
[15:13] <markit> that brings me to a file pickup dialog
[15:13] <shadeslayer> can you show me a screenshot of what you get when you click open?
[15:13] <markit> (btw, I've the interface in italian, translating on the fly)
[15:14] <markit> sure, hold on
[15:14] <shadeslayer> that's fine :)
[15:15] <shadeslayer> markit: fwiw you can hold the ff packages if you want
[15:15] <shadeslayer> like, you can tell apt to install 14 and only upgrade to 15 when you unhold the package
[15:15] <markit> shadeslayer: ehm, I've already updated to FF15 yesterday
[15:16] <shadeslayer> you can go back :D
[15:16] <markit> how can I send you the screenshots
[15:16] <markit> ?
[15:16] <shadeslayer> !imagebin
[15:17] <markit> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.org/226459
[15:17] <shadeslayer> ah mm
[15:17] <markit> do you want also the one when I click on Scegli (select)?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> yes please
[15:18] <markit> http://imagebin.org/226461
[15:20] <shadeslayer> erp
[15:20] <shadeslayer> herp derp
[15:20] <markit> I've a kvm VM with 12.04 updated, so is a "fresh" configuration with only marginal tuning like double click to open a folder
[15:20] <shadeslayer> markit: ok, I'll look into this, will probably take some time though
[15:21] <markit> shadeslayer: ok, how to install 14 then?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> markit: sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1
[15:21] <markit> (if easy to explain and does not abuse your time and patience)
[15:21] <shadeslayer> ofcourse not
[15:21] <markit> quantal? I've 12.04, same name  or do I have to change?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> oh bah
[15:22] <shadeslayer> you're on precise
[15:22] <markit> yes, the name "ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1" puzzles me
[15:22] <shadeslayer> markit: sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2
[15:22] <markit> ok, thanks :)
[15:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: that version makes my eyes bleed
[15:23] <markit> let me try it with your -kde stuff
[15:23] <shadeslayer> I think I've mentioned that before
[15:23] <shadeslayer> markit: make sure you have https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde enabled
[15:24] <markit> I've done add-apt-repository ppa:blue-shell/firefox-kde
[15:25] <markit> but will I have just firefox-kde-support or a special version of firefox itself?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> the latter
[15:25] <markit> AH, I've not I guess
[15:26] <markit> ff15 is not from there
[15:26] <markit> ok, ff14 will b e
[15:27] <markit> so you have to recompile ALL firefox just to provide support for kde? crazy :(
[15:27] <markit> mozilla foundation should be more kind with us
[15:30] <markit> shadeslayer: with that version works like a charm, just the language packs are of FF15 and I need the ones of FF14
[15:30] <markit> (great work!)
[15:31] <markit> oh, they are on your repo as well, perferct
[15:42] <shumski> shadeslayer: do we need entire license, this refreshed one is upstream browser.xul: http://tinyurl.com/cdlszgd
[15:42] <shumski> *is as
[15:43] <shadeslayer> shumski: my main concern is that the authors of the file have been dropped
[15:44] <markit> shadeslayer: ehm, so I need ff from your repo AND firefox-kde-support (that seems not a dependency)?
[15:45] <shumski> shadeslayer: who's that? there are several people mentioned in the 'old' one. but upstream's doesn't mention anyone
[15:45] <shadeslayer> markit: yes, both are required, like I said earlier, KDE integration is split into 2 parts
[15:45] <shadeslayer> or 3 packages if you will
[15:46] <markit> 3? which is the 3°?
[15:46] <shadeslayer> shumski: yeah, also #kubuntu-devel
[15:46] <markit> firefox-globalmenu ?
[15:46] <shadeslayer> markit: kmozillahelper , firefox-kde-support and firefox itself
[15:47] <shadeslayer> ah, kmozhelper is just a transitional package, so yeah, 2 packages
[15:47] <markit> ok :)
[15:47] <shumski> shadeslayer: hm? don't see kubuntu-devel mentioned
[15:47] <shadeslayer> shumski: no, I meant come hang out in #kubuntu-devel
[15:47] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:26] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, added the ppas and updated but firefox-kde firefox-kde-support aren't located when I try to install
[17:08] <markit> BlaXpirit: firefox-kde does not exist, firefox-kde-support does, as far as I understand
[17:09] <markit> sorry
[17:09] <markit> BluesKaj:
[17:09] <faLUCE> hi. I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. However, in /etc/apt/sources.list I still see "oneiric" in the lines of repos. why?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> yes markit , I just found that out ... a bit disappointing actually
[17:12] <markit> BluesKaj: why? normally you install firefox and it gets that one for kde, but now it would pick up the 15 version, that is not in their repo
[17:13] <markit> what I've done is: with apt-cache policy see the exact name of the package I need from their repo
[17:13] <markit> and then with apt-get install packagename=theirpackagenamenandversion instal them
[17:14] <markit> like for firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en
[17:14] <markit> while firefox-kde-support comes only from their repo, so it's not a problem
[17:14] <markit> BluesKaj: what version of ff have you installed on your system?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> markit, I've had 15 all along ..seems the same to me , even with the kde support package
[17:16] <markit> BluesKaj: you have to grab the 14 version from them, or wait next week when they will update to 15 too
[17:16] <markit> and an update of your system will bring to you their 15 version
[17:16] <markit> then you'd better put "on hold" (aptitude hold) those packages
[17:17] <markit> I mean firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en
[17:17] <markit> and un-hold only when there is an update and their version is available
[17:17] <markit> BluesKaj: are you found with bash shell (terminal)?
[17:18] <markit> or wait some minutes that I boot up my kubuntu 12.04 version and grab the history and tell you what to do :)
[17:19] <markit> BluesKaj: are you english speaker? I mean, you use the -en language pack of firefox?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> markit, I'm on 12.10 , FF 15 is default ..and I installed FF after installing the blue shell ppa. I purged the previous FF that i had installed , the added the ppa and install firefox-kde-support , before installing FF again
[17:21] <markit> BluesKaj: open the termina, ok?
[17:21] <markit> terminal
[17:21] <markit> then enter:
[17:21] <markit> sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 firefox-globalmenu=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 firefox-locale-en=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2
[17:21] <markit> you will go back to FF14 took from THEIR repository
[17:22] <BluesKaj> markit, ? why I'm on quantal , not precise
[17:22] <markit> ah, I see, then you have to figure out the exact name yourself with apt-cache
[17:23] <markit> i.e. apt-cache policy firefox
[17:23] <markit> look at the one listed that comes from their repositories
[17:23] <markit> and use that long name in firefox=xyz as above
[17:23] <markit> ok?
[17:26] <markit> BluesKaj: I'm a bit busy... are you going to do it or may I leave you?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> they had firefox-kde listed on the ppa site/launchpad , but it doesn't exist and they admitted as much when I pointed out that out to them on kubuntu-devel . so i assume after purging FF , adding the ppa tosources, then updating and installing firefox-kde-support , that when installing firefox again it will receive kde support as intended.
[17:27] <BluesKaj> markit,^
[17:28] <markit> BluesKaj: so I thought some hours ago when I tried first time
[17:28] <markit> but the developer explained to me that you need their customized version of firefox too
[17:28] <markit> and right now, they don't have FF15 version available
[17:28] <markit> so when you ask your system to install firefox, it takes the most updated version
[17:29] <BluesKaj> then they should list the correct versionin the ppa and add it ..the way it stands it's a mess
[17:29] <markit> that is ff15 from the "official" repository, that will not work with firefox-kde-support
[17:29] <BluesKaj> markit,^
[17:30] <markit> BluesKaj: I've no idea, I'm available to tell you how I solved, ask shadeslayer about their packages
[17:30] <BluesKaj> markit, maybe  because you se precise , i use quantal , and it use ff 15 by default
[17:30] <markit> but I feel really gratefull to them for their work, so be kind :)
[17:30] <markit> BluesKaj: precise has FF15 since some days
[17:30] <markit> you can't have "by default", FF15 is out since some days only
[17:31] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, already knows about the problem
[17:31] <markit> ok, so seems you don't need my help, I misunderstood then
[17:31] <markit> I go back to my occupations :)
[17:31] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: make sure you don't get ff 15
[17:31] <shadeslayer> because that's what you will get by default
[17:32] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, the where do i get the correct version ?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> then
[17:32] <shadeslayer> you need to specify the version in the ppa
[17:32] <markit> BluesKaj: btw, I told you with above info
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ok markit thanks ill try that
[17:33] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install firefox= 14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1
[17:33] <shadeslayer> for quantal
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok shadeslayer thanks , i'll try that
[17:37] <shadeslayer> you also need the Firefox-kde-support package ofcourse :)
[17:38] <markit> and firefox-globalmenu and firefox-locale-en AFAIU
[17:39] <shumski> markit: why globalmenu? in kde?
[17:39] <shadeslayer> ^
[17:39] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I already installed the ff kde support package , but unfortunately :  Couldn't find any package by regex '14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1
[17:40] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[17:40] <shadeslayer> possibly my phone failed at copying it properly?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> the ppa doesn't seem the same
[17:41] <shumski> BluesKaj: http://ppa.launchpad.net/blue-shell/firefox-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1_amd64.deb
[17:41] <shumski> if you're 64bit
[17:41] <BluesKaj> bbiab , postman has delivered some mail
[17:42] <markit> shumski: don't know it's a dependency problem I think
[17:43] <markit> BluesKaj: no space between firefox=xyz ? you wrote firefox= xyz (don't know if is that the problem, just guessing)
[17:43] <shumski> markit: you can remove globalmenu package so it won't bug you in future versions
[17:43] <markit> shumski: will it complain about broken dependency?
[17:44] <markit> shumski: ok, does not complain
[17:45] <shadeslayer> markit: did you just install a quantal deb on a precise system ? :P
[17:46] <markit> shadeslayer: a precise 12.04
[17:46] <shumski> no!
[17:47] <shumski> that link was for qq
[17:47] <shadeslayer> ^
[17:47] <markit> shumski: I'm ok, is BluesKaj that needs to install, and HE has quanta
[17:47] <shumski> ok, we thought you installed that .deb
[17:48] <markit> I downgraded to ff14 and installed from blue repo some hours ago, and works like a charm
[17:49] <shumski> markit: cool
[18:06] <BluesKaj> shumski, shadeslayer , markit , ok i have FF 14.1  installed now , seems better than 15 , java and flash seem to load faster , already have the ff kde support package installed
[18:06] <shadeslayer> w00t
[18:07] <BluesKaj> the deb had to be installed with dpkg, the installer gui doesn't open the install button , it's greyed out , shumski
[18:09] <shadeslayer> I know why that is :)
[18:10] <shadeslayer> on quantal GUI won't let you install packages older than what is installed via the archives
[18:10] <Dreadtower> Hi folks
[18:11] <Dreadtower> Looks like my plasma desktop has fallen over
[18:11] <Dreadtower> It's stuck with a 'no running jons' notification hanging
[18:11] <Dreadtower> Any ideas?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , i assumed it was the case , because when launched , FF takes me to download page to upgraqde to 15 , saying my version is old , shadeslayer
[18:12] <shadeslayer> yeah, I need to merge shumski patches and release to the ppa
[18:13] <shadeslayer> just give me some time ;)
[18:14] <Dreadtower> I'm going to capture this LTVT DEM overlay of Grimaldi and come back after reboot
[18:15] <shumski> shadeslayer: why is that? the 'older packages' situation?
[18:15] <shadeslayer> shumski: idk, you can choose a specific version using muon
[18:16] <shadeslayer> maybe debi just doesnt allow that ?
[18:16] <shumski> and always been like that, even in gdebi times :)
[18:17] <shumski> it would warn you about older/newer version is software chanel
[18:20] <shumski> shadeslayer: re: firefox vs. firefox-kde; it would be a good idea to rename the package to firefox-kde, so users don't have to pin
[18:20] <shumski> and made it conflicts regular firefox
[18:21] <shadeslayer> dunno, seems like a awful lot of delta
[18:30] <BluesKaj> hmm, just as I suspected , apt wants to upgrade firefox as soon I do an upgrade
[18:34] <shumski> BluesKaj: you need to lock it
[18:36] <BluesKaj> never locked  an app,
[18:38] <shumski> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[18:43] <BluesKaj> locked it in synaptic ...ok
[18:50] <BluesKaj> hmm, I updated , but apt still wants to upgrade firefox , will it be ignored ?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> I have  a nvidia upgrade waiting ... shumski ?
[18:52] <shumski> for apt/dpg look this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt.2BAC8-Dpkg-1
[18:52] <shumski> you locked it only for synaptic
[18:52] <shumski> but it will be updated if you update through apt-get/aptitude
[18:53] <shumski> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt.2BAC8-Dpkg
[18:53] <shumski> this is the right link, previous is about removing the lock
[18:58] <shumski> for holding firefox you'll do: echo firefox hold | dpkg --set-selections
[18:59] <shumski> BluesKaj: to remove that lock - echo firefox install | dpkg --set-selections
[19:03] <BluesKaj> shumski yeah , done , thanks
[19:07] <shumski> BluesKaj:cool  :-)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> shumski, ok , added the commands to my reference CLI commands file ..I have to keep them in a textfile due to my less the na good memory
[19:12] <BluesKaj> less than good...thanks for the help , shumski
[19:14] <shumski> BluesKaj: :-D
[19:14] <shumski> no problem
[19:41] <markit> ehm, what about aptitude? aptitude hold firefox
[19:41] <markit> aptitude unhold firefox
[19:41] <markit> works great ;P
[19:42] <markit> [19:16] <markit> then you'd better put "on hold" (aptitude hold) those packages
[19:43] <BluesKaj> markit, I haven't used aptitude in a while , won't apt-get hold work
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:55] <markit> BluesKaj: I've no idea, since shumskisuttested you something with "echo firefox hold | dpkg --set-selections" I thought was not possible
[19:55] <markit> s/suttested/suggested
[19:59] <BluesKaj> markit, I'll check aptitude again , altho i understand it still has a warning about dependencies on 64 bit architecture
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[20:00] <BluesKaj> ok, "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled"
[20:03] <shumski> BluesKaj: i believe that's fixed for newer version. also, i *think* aptitude hold, holds only for aptitude (not sure)
[20:04] <BluesKaj> shumski, yes that makes sense
[20:09] <shumski> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207
[20:14] <markit> well, I left apt-get to aptitude long time ago... it was labeled as "the improvement of apt-get"... wonders why there have been a step back
[20:17] <shumski> to me, it makes sense only on Debian. if you like to mix testing/sid/experimental
[20:17]  * markit uses debian sid on his workstation
[20:18] <markit> shumski: seemd to me that has a wider and more powerful management of dependencies and so on
[20:18] <markit> but I made the switch years ago, things change..
[20:20] <shumski> markit: yes, more smart (sometimes too smart) with deps then apt-get
[20:22] <BluesKaj> now kate is crashing on 12.10 ...strange the OS has been fine up until apha 3 , then graphics , permissions and text editor problems , one after another
[20:24] <shumski> where does it crash?
[20:26] <markit> hem, can't answer, also chat program crashed
[20:27] <shumski> :D
[22:24] <frogonwheels_> I though pulseaudio was doing fine, but it seems minecraft(I'm guessing java)+pulseaudio is particularly nasty.  Uninstalling :|
[22:46] <vivid> anyway to decrease the notifications in kubuntu?  its really annoying to have a huge list of nothing important as notifications.  eg X has logged in.  Y has logged out.  on and on
[22:48] <vivid> im using pidgin, for example, and its really annoying.  i would like to see notifications that ive received a message with pidgin, but not that the same 150 people are logging on or off.
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