[01:01] still trying to get Kmail to stop deleting instead of depositing in TRASH === root is now known as Guest40542 [01:08] Anybody else having issues with ktorrent causing screen blanking???? [01:10] I hit Ctrl + Alt + F1, and ran pkill ktorrent, and that logged me out of KDE, sounds very strange, eh? [01:11] What's the kubunu bug tracker? === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin === coyote is now known as coyote_ [04:17] wm === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [06:31] ok- headache is still here [06:32] i just upgraded to 12.04.1 lts - but- im missing my wifi network manager on the task bar.. [06:39] subcool: rightclick that area, and add it [06:39] subcool: that is, rightclick and get "Settings for System tray", then you should be able to choose "extra items" and the network manager [06:40] I am using swedish locale so translations may be wrong, but that's the general idea [06:53] hateball, thanks!!! :) === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [07:06] subcool: Good that it worked out for you :) [07:07] is there a software to stream a video made with a normal digital camera? [07:08] baffone85: I think you can do that in Kdenlive [07:09] Emphasis on *think* === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj === frogonwheels is now known as frogonwheels_ === knowayhack is now known as knowayback === Steve___ is now known as Guest79432 [09:18] howdy [09:19] I keep getting to know better with Kubuntu but would be nicer if I had some sound [09:19] ;) [09:19] anyone could give me a hand? [09:20] I checked obvious things like volume and I just added some ppa from ubuntu (not that I know what I am doing) [09:27] anybody? [09:59] nezumi: what chipset do you have? does it show up in the volume control applet? [09:59] nezumi: And what have you used to test sound? Local media files, flash, etc? [10:01] thx hateball! this time I fixed it on my own [10:03] :) [10:03] now I am trying to get latest gimp with very little luck though [10:07] supposedly its enough to type "apt-get install gimp" to get latest version of GIMP [10:08] but it shows some Permission denied and asking if I am root [10:08] so I am kinda stuck here,, [10:24] Hallo, ich bin Hitler. [10:38] !sudo | nezumi [10:38] nezumi: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [10:39] !muon | nezumi [10:39] nezumi: Muon is the current Kubuntu package manager. Please see http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ for an overview [10:41] thx [10:41] in manager is older version I guess [10:43] nezumi: It's the same no matter if you use the CLI or the GUI [10:44] And as it happens, 2.6 is what's shipped with 12.04 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:46] Hi all [11:49] HI BluesKaj === Sigma is now known as Guest61393 [11:54] hi Peace- === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest77677 === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === keffie_jayx is now known as effiejayx [14:08] anyone updated to 4.9 and not able to hide the tabs in konsole? [14:11] hey al [14:11] i instealled latest mysql-workbench on my kubuntu 12.04, 64it, but performance of mysql workbench is slow, any hint? === apache is now known as Guest48352 [14:18] Hello Can you help me to add irc.kde.org to Quassel. What and where do I have to paste to connect to #kontact channel [14:19] Guest48352: Just type: /join #contact [14:21] Thank you. It works. === jussi01 is now known as jussi [15:07] anyone has tried the blue-shell repo for firefox-kde-support? ppa:blue-shell/firefox-kde I've installed but if I right click on the download window and select "open" it asks me wich app use to ope the pdf, or the folder [15:07] in short, seems not to work... maybe FF15 broke it? [15:08] markit: most likely [15:08] I have to update it for FF15 [15:08] shadeslayer: are you the (one of the) author? [15:08] Will most likely work on it next week [15:09] yeah, one of the maintainers [15:09] shadeslayer: God bless you :) [15:09] haha :D [15:09] the other one is apachelogger :P [15:09] I'm deploying KDE as LTSP in school... without this support I'm doomed [15:09] shadeslayer: extend your holiness to him [15:10] markit: I'm afraid I won't be able to update it before next week, swamped with other work [15:10] (don't have time to check the dictionary, hope to have said it right) [15:10] monday morning? ;P [15:10] shadeslayer: I've no idea about that problem... should be trivial for FF ask for the "OS default" app for stuff [15:11] heh, I'll look over how to update it on Monday, no gurantees when I'll have a working thing [15:11] shadeslayer: I mean, if I click on a pdf link, it asks me if I want to open with Okular or save [15:11] once I've saved, if I right click and select "open" it asks me "with what?" [15:11] hm [15:11] does that happen with 14 as well? [15:12] and sure for a children open a termina, enter wich okular, copy and paste the path is NOT easy [15:12] kmozhelper is a bit of POS [15:12] yep [15:12] (as far as I remember) [15:12] actually, you can just type okular [15:12] and it will pick up the right binary [15:12] shadeslayer: let me try [15:13] though I don't expect a user to remember Okular [15:13] shadeslayer: I can't type okular... where? [15:13] they'll refer to it as a PDF Viewer at most ;P [15:13] £Select an application" and the "select" button [15:13] that brings me to a file pickup dialog [15:13] can you show me a screenshot of what you get when you click open? [15:13] (btw, I've the interface in italian, translating on the fly) [15:14] sure, hold on [15:14] that's fine :) [15:15] markit: fwiw you can hold the ff packages if you want [15:15] like, you can tell apt to install 14 and only upgrade to 15 when you unhold the package [15:15] shadeslayer: ehm, I've already updated to FF15 yesterday [15:16] you can go back :D [15:16] how can I send you the screenshots [15:16] ? [15:16] !imagebin [15:16] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [15:17] shadeslayer: http://imagebin.org/226459 [15:17] ah mm [15:17] do you want also the one when I click on Scegli (select)? [15:18] yes please [15:18] http://imagebin.org/226461 [15:20] erp [15:20] herp derp [15:20] I've a kvm VM with 12.04 updated, so is a "fresh" configuration with only marginal tuning like double click to open a folder [15:20] markit: ok, I'll look into this, will probably take some time though [15:21] shadeslayer: ok, how to install 14 then? [15:21] markit: sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1 [15:21] (if easy to explain and does not abuse your time and patience) [15:21] ofcourse not [15:21] quantal? I've 12.04, same name or do I have to change? [15:22] oh bah [15:22] you're on precise [15:22] yes, the name "ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1" puzzles me [15:22] markit: sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 [15:22] ok, thanks :) [15:23] apachelogger: that version makes my eyes bleed [15:23] let me try it with your -kde stuff [15:23] I think I've mentioned that before [15:23] markit: make sure you have https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde enabled [15:24] I've done add-apt-repository ppa:blue-shell/firefox-kde [15:25] but will I have just firefox-kde-support or a special version of firefox itself? [15:25] the latter [15:25] AH, I've not I guess [15:26] ff15 is not from there [15:26] ok, ff14 will b e [15:27] so you have to recompile ALL firefox just to provide support for kde? crazy :( [15:27] mozilla foundation should be more kind with us [15:30] shadeslayer: with that version works like a charm, just the language packs are of FF15 and I need the ones of FF14 [15:30] (great work!) [15:31] oh, they are on your repo as well, perferct [15:42] shadeslayer: do we need entire license, this refreshed one is upstream browser.xul: http://tinyurl.com/cdlszgd [15:42] *is as [15:43] shumski: my main concern is that the authors of the file have been dropped [15:44] shadeslayer: ehm, so I need ff from your repo AND firefox-kde-support (that seems not a dependency)? [15:45] shadeslayer: who's that? there are several people mentioned in the 'old' one. but upstream's doesn't mention anyone [15:45] markit: yes, both are required, like I said earlier, KDE integration is split into 2 parts [15:45] or 3 packages if you will [15:46] 3? which is the 3°? [15:46] shumski: yeah, also #kubuntu-devel [15:46] firefox-globalmenu ? [15:46] markit: kmozillahelper , firefox-kde-support and firefox itself [15:47] ah, kmozhelper is just a transitional package, so yeah, 2 packages [15:47] ok :) [15:47] shadeslayer: hm? don't see kubuntu-devel mentioned [15:47] shumski: no, I meant come hang out in #kubuntu-devel [15:47] :P === monkeyjuice is now known as rudybotdog === rudybotdog is now known as monkeyjuice === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [16:26] shadeslayer, added the ppas and updated but firefox-kde firefox-kde-support aren't located when I try to install === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE [17:08] BlaXpirit: firefox-kde does not exist, firefox-kde-support does, as far as I understand [17:09] sorry [17:09] BluesKaj: [17:09] hi. I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. However, in /etc/apt/sources.list I still see "oneiric" in the lines of repos. why? [17:09] yes markit , I just found that out ... a bit disappointing actually [17:12] BluesKaj: why? normally you install firefox and it gets that one for kde, but now it would pick up the 15 version, that is not in their repo [17:13] what I've done is: with apt-cache policy see the exact name of the package I need from their repo [17:13] and then with apt-get install packagename=theirpackagenamenandversion instal them [17:14] like for firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en [17:14] while firefox-kde-support comes only from their repo, so it's not a problem [17:14] BluesKaj: what version of ff have you installed on your system? [17:15] markit, I've had 15 all along ..seems the same to me , even with the kde support package [17:16] BluesKaj: you have to grab the 14 version from them, or wait next week when they will update to 15 too [17:16] and an update of your system will bring to you their 15 version [17:16] then you'd better put "on hold" (aptitude hold) those packages [17:17] I mean firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en [17:17] and un-hold only when there is an update and their version is available [17:17] BluesKaj: are you found with bash shell (terminal)? [17:18] or wait some minutes that I boot up my kubuntu 12.04 version and grab the history and tell you what to do :) [17:19] BluesKaj: are you english speaker? I mean, you use the -en language pack of firefox? [17:20] markit, I'm on 12.10 , FF 15 is default ..and I installed FF after installing the blue shell ppa. I purged the previous FF that i had installed , the added the ppa and install firefox-kde-support , before installing FF again [17:21] BluesKaj: open the termina, ok? [17:21] terminal [17:21] then enter: [17:21] sudo apt-get install firefox=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 firefox-globalmenu=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 firefox-locale-en=14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa2 [17:21] you will go back to FF14 took from THEIR repository [17:22] markit, ? why I'm on quantal , not precise [17:22] ah, I see, then you have to figure out the exact name yourself with apt-cache [17:23] i.e. apt-cache policy firefox [17:23] look at the one listed that comes from their repositories [17:23] and use that long name in firefox=xyz as above [17:23] ok? [17:26] BluesKaj: I'm a bit busy... are you going to do it or may I leave you? [17:27] they had firefox-kde listed on the ppa site/launchpad , but it doesn't exist and they admitted as much when I pointed out that out to them on kubuntu-devel . so i assume after purging FF , adding the ppa tosources, then updating and installing firefox-kde-support , that when installing firefox again it will receive kde support as intended. [17:27] markit,^ [17:28] BluesKaj: so I thought some hours ago when I tried first time [17:28] but the developer explained to me that you need their customized version of firefox too [17:28] and right now, they don't have FF15 version available [17:28] so when you ask your system to install firefox, it takes the most updated version === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [17:29] then they should list the correct versionin the ppa and add it ..the way it stands it's a mess [17:29] that is ff15 from the "official" repository, that will not work with firefox-kde-support [17:29] markit,^ [17:30] BluesKaj: I've no idea, I'm available to tell you how I solved, ask shadeslayer about their packages [17:30] markit, maybe because you se precise , i use quantal , and it use ff 15 by default [17:30] but I feel really gratefull to them for their work, so be kind :) [17:30] BluesKaj: precise has FF15 since some days [17:30] you can't have "by default", FF15 is out since some days only [17:31] shadeslayer, already knows about the problem [17:31] ok, so seems you don't need my help, I misunderstood then [17:31] I go back to my occupations :) [17:31] BluesKaj: make sure you don't get ff 15 [17:31] because that's what you will get by default [17:32] shadeslayer, the where do i get the correct version ? [17:32] then [17:32] you need to specify the version in the ppa [17:32] BluesKaj: btw, I told you with above info [17:32] ok markit thanks ill try that [17:33] sudo apt-get install firefox= 14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1 [17:33] for quantal [17:36] ok shadeslayer thanks , i'll try that [17:37] you also need the Firefox-kde-support package ofcourse :) [17:38] and firefox-globalmenu and firefox-locale-en AFAIU [17:39] markit: why globalmenu? in kde? [17:39] ^ === raindog is now known as Guest58808 [17:39] shadeslayer, I already installed the ff kde support package , but unfortunately : Couldn't find any package by regex '14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1 [17:40] 0.o [17:40] possibly my phone failed at copying it properly? [17:40] the ppa doesn't seem the same [17:41] BluesKaj: http://ppa.launchpad.net/blue-shell/firefox-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1ubuntu0+ppa3~quantal1_amd64.deb [17:41] if you're 64bit [17:41] bbiab , postman has delivered some mail [17:42] shumski: don't know it's a dependency problem I think [17:43] BluesKaj: no space between firefox=xyz ? you wrote firefox= xyz (don't know if is that the problem, just guessing) [17:43] markit: you can remove globalmenu package so it won't bug you in future versions [17:43] shumski: will it complain about broken dependency? [17:44] shumski: ok, does not complain [17:45] markit: did you just install a quantal deb on a precise system ? :P [17:46] shadeslayer: a precise 12.04 [17:46] no! [17:47] that link was for qq [17:47] ^ [17:47] shumski: I'm ok, is BluesKaj that needs to install, and HE has quanta [17:47] ok, we thought you installed that .deb [17:48] I downgraded to ff14 and installed from blue repo some hours ago, and works like a charm [17:49] markit: cool [18:06] shumski, shadeslayer , markit , ok i have FF 14.1 installed now , seems better than 15 , java and flash seem to load faster , already have the ff kde support package installed [18:06] w00t [18:07] the deb had to be installed with dpkg, the installer gui doesn't open the install button , it's greyed out , shumski === Shaun_ is now known as Shaun [18:09] I know why that is :) [18:10] on quantal GUI won't let you install packages older than what is installed via the archives [18:10] Hi folks [18:11] Looks like my plasma desktop has fallen over [18:11] It's stuck with a 'no running jons' notification hanging [18:11] Any ideas? [18:11] yeah , i assumed it was the case , because when launched , FF takes me to download page to upgraqde to 15 , saying my version is old , shadeslayer [18:12] yeah, I need to merge shumski patches and release to the ppa [18:13] just give me some time ;) [18:14] I'm going to capture this LTVT DEM overlay of Grimaldi and come back after reboot [18:15] shadeslayer: why is that? the 'older packages' situation? [18:15] shumski: idk, you can choose a specific version using muon [18:16] maybe debi just doesnt allow that ? [18:16] and always been like that, even in gdebi times :) [18:17] it would warn you about older/newer version is software chanel [18:20] shadeslayer: re: firefox vs. firefox-kde; it would be a good idea to rename the package to firefox-kde, so users don't have to pin [18:20] and made it conflicts regular firefox [18:21] dunno, seems like a awful lot of delta [18:30] hmm, just as I suspected , apt wants to upgrade firefox as soon I do an upgrade [18:34] BluesKaj: you need to lock it [18:36] never locked an app, [18:38] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto [18:43] locked it in synaptic ...ok === apache is now known as Guest3253 [18:50] hmm, I updated , but apt still wants to upgrade firefox , will it be ignored ? [18:51] I have a nvidia upgrade waiting ... shumski ? [18:52] for apt/dpg look this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt.2BAC8-Dpkg-1 [18:52] you locked it only for synaptic [18:52] but it will be updated if you update through apt-get/aptitude [18:53] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt.2BAC8-Dpkg [18:53] this is the right link, previous is about removing the lock [18:58] for holding firefox you'll do: echo firefox hold | dpkg --set-selections [18:59] BluesKaj: to remove that lock - echo firefox install | dpkg --set-selections [19:03] shumski yeah , done , thanks [19:07] BluesKaj:cool :-) [19:11] shumski, ok , added the commands to my reference CLI commands file ..I have to keep them in a textfile due to my less the na good memory [19:12] less than good...thanks for the help , shumski === pjoe is now known as pjoe_afk [19:14] BluesKaj: :-D [19:14] no problem === raindog is now known as Guest87708 [19:41] ehm, what about aptitude? aptitude hold firefox [19:41] aptitude unhold firefox [19:41] works great ;P [19:42] [19:16] then you'd better put "on hold" (aptitude hold) those packages [19:43] markit, I haven't used aptitude in a while , won't apt-get hold work [19:43] ? [19:55] BluesKaj: I've no idea, since shumskisuttested you something with "echo firefox hold | dpkg --set-selections" I thought was not possible [19:55] s/suttested/suggested [19:59] markit, I'll check aptitude again , altho i understand it still has a warning about dependencies on 64 bit architecture [19:59] !aptitude [19:59] aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information. [20:00] ok, "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled" [20:03] BluesKaj: i believe that's fixed for newer version. also, i *think* aptitude hold, holds only for aptitude (not sure) [20:04] shumski, yes that makes sense [20:09] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207 [20:09] Debian bug 146207 in aptitude "aptitude: in command-line mode ignores hold set by dpkg --set-selections" [Normal,Open] [20:14] well, I left apt-get to aptitude long time ago... it was labeled as "the improvement of apt-get"... wonders why there have been a step back [20:17] to me, it makes sense only on Debian. if you like to mix testing/sid/experimental [20:17] * markit uses debian sid on his workstation [20:18] shumski: seemd to me that has a wider and more powerful management of dependencies and so on [20:18] but I made the switch years ago, things change.. [20:20] markit: yes, more smart (sometimes too smart) with deps then apt-get === ceradon-away is now known as euphoria [20:22] now kate is crashing on 12.10 ...strange the OS has been fine up until apha 3 , then graphics , permissions and text editor problems , one after another [20:24] where does it crash? [20:26] hem, can't answer, also chat program crashed [20:27] :D === kubuntu is now known as Guest94586 === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [22:24] I though pulseaudio was doing fine, but it seems minecraft(I'm guessing java)+pulseaudio is particularly nasty. Uninstalling :| === frogonwheels_ is now known as frogonwheels [22:46] anyway to decrease the notifications in kubuntu? its really annoying to have a huge list of nothing important as notifications. eg X has logged in. Y has logged out. on and on [22:48] im using pidgin, for example, and its really annoying. i would like to see notifications that ive received a message with pidgin, but not that the same 150 people are logging on or off. [23:19] yeah! uh huh! so seductive! [23:20] !ops [23:20] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger [23:20] ban meeeee! [23:20] yeah! uh huh! so seductive! [23:20] yeah! uh huh! so seductive! [23:20] yeah! uh huh! so seductive! [23:21] rustynail: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.