[01:21] <silverarrow> is anyone on?
[01:21] <silverarrow> I have this thing happening, like xorg keep restarting
[01:22] <silverarrow> or restarting xfce
[01:22] <silverarrow> lxce
[01:24] <silverarrow> nor sure
[01:37] <peppermint> Im using a lubuntu varient Where would I be able to install the system profiler and benchmark tool?
[01:40] <Unit193> Should visit #peppermint but installing is done with the software center, synaptic, and apt-get
[01:42] <Unit193> !software | peppermint
[01:43] <smartboyhw> Thanks Unit193:)
[01:43] <peppermint> Unit193 ASked thier but its dead. Had a search on the software center but I can't find it as such
[01:43] <smartboyhw> sudlo apt-get install ?
[01:43] <smartboyhw> *sudo
[01:43] <peppermint> NOt sure whats its called exactly or id try that smartboyhw
[01:44] <smartboyhw> Sorry, I'm not in Lubuntu:)
[01:44] <Unit193> !info sysprof
[01:44] <Unit193> !derivatives
[01:45] <peppermint> sudo apt-get install sysprof work?
[01:47] <peppermint> That did install it
[01:47] <peppermint> I think
[01:47] <Unit193> If that is the program you want.
[01:47] <peppermint> Cant see it however
[01:47] <peppermint> Is it the thing thats effectly device mnager in windows?
[01:48] <peppermint> But also lets your run a benchmark tool against a 1.5 celeron?
[01:48] <silverarrow> lubuntu has sytem and profiler benchmark tool
[01:48] <Unit193> Not used it.  Did you try the correct support channel on spotchat?
[01:48] <Unit193> There is an incorrect one on Freenode, so not sure.
[01:49] <peppermint> I tried the peppermint channel on spotchat
[01:49] <peppermint> Linked it from the menu.
[01:49] <silverarrow> are you in peppermint or lubuntu?
[01:49] <peppermint> Currently peppermint.
[01:49] <silverarrow> I see
[01:49] <silverarrow> never tired it
[01:49] <peppermint> CAsue I can;t find my lubunut disk
[01:50] <peppermint> The reason I want to just install the system profiler
[01:50] <smartboyhw> Unit193: You know where phillw is?
[01:50] <Unit193> peppermint isn't really supported in here though.
[01:50] <Unit193> smartboyhw: Not right now.
[01:50] <smartboyhw> ...
[01:51] <peppermint> Yea I know but I though it would be more supported in here than in #ubuntu
[01:51] <silverarrow> peppermint, are you sending report or monitoring specs?
[01:52] <peppermint> Wanting to chech specs
[01:53] <peppermint> The machine is imbedded in a wallm so I cant actually take it out and look inside.
[01:53] <silverarrow> htop works to some degree
[01:54] <Unit193> htop is a process monitor.  Try lshw or lshw-gtk, but I joined the channel on the other network if I can help.
[01:54] <silverarrow> htop shows ram, used ram, cpu...@
[01:54] <silverarrow> and all linux have access to htop i think
[01:56] <silverarrow> disk utility should give some hard drive specs
[01:56] <silverarrow> there must  be some equvalent to system profiler in peppermint
[07:50] <LCN1980> morning all
[07:51] <LCN1980> im about to have made my XBMC all complete based on the Lubuntu 64bit install i just need one thing to be working
[07:52] <LCN1980> i made my Wiimote compatible in xbmc using the eventclient but it only works as a remote and not a gamepad using the Zsnes emulator anyone know what i shall do to get it working
[08:03] <nbgjamie> Hello everyone
[08:03] <nbgjamie> I'm wondering if i can login to a fresh account. Make all the UI changes i want (desktop pattern, taskbar icons etc) then just copy all the .files from that account into /etc/skel and then any new user will pickup those preferences.
[14:28] <gld1982ltd> hi all
[14:32] <qubit[01]> heya
[14:32] <gld1982ltd> aren't i supposed to be able to select multiple items on my desktop by dragging my mouse over them? or has this feature been changed or removed from pcmanfm?
[14:43] <kanliot> gld1982ltd, should work
[14:46] <gld1982ltd> all that happens for me (using latest packages from 12.10 on 12.04) is when i hosd down to drag, all of the files are automatically dragged to wherever i dragged to. this often causes the items to completely disappear from the desktop, and i have to open pcmanfm to move the files to another folder. once i move them back to the desktop folder they go back to their original positions at the top-left of the screen
[14:46] <kanliot> wierd.  can you follow up by posting a bug?
[14:47] <holstein> gld1982ltd: i would expect some issues in 12.10
[14:47] <gld1982ltd> holstein: right. it doesn't bother me, i was just wondering if it was a bug or if it was meant to be.
[14:48] <holstein> i would make a new user, and test. i would try a 12.10 daily iso and confirm, and reporting it if its a bug would be very helpful
[14:52] <gld1982ltd> i will probably grab a daily and test it from a vm, eventually. i don't know how long it will be until i can do any testing right now. however, my laptop (using now) is really experimental (i have latest lxde packages for 12.10 and a whole slew of other unstable software), so it could be that. i don't think so, but it is possible. so i will not post a bug report until i can test it on a daily.
[15:46] <cyro> hello, has anyone had any difficulties with getting wireless signals in lubuntu ppc 12.04 for a Powerbook G4? it appears the b43 drivers were installed but i have no antenna signal.
[15:47] <cyro> I have only seen a select few of others that are having this issue
[15:48] <gld1982ltd> cyro: do you have the b43-fwcutter package installed?
[15:48] <cyro> yes I had installed them through synaptic
[15:48] <gld1982ltd> what about the firmware-b43-installer?
[15:49] <cyro> in the wireless colum it says apple keylargo i/o
[15:49] <cyro> yes that is installed also, i believe there is a legacy one as well?
[15:49] <gld1982ltd> yes.
[15:49] <gld1982ltd> there is also a low-power one
[15:50] <gld1982ltd> i don't know which your system requires.
[15:50] <cyro> that's interesting i must have missed the third one.
[15:50] <gld1982ltd> i have b43, but once i installed those packages above i wnet ahead and installed the proprietary drivers.
[15:50] <silverarrow> yes, i see there is thread on the ubuntu forum regarding a powerbook G4
[15:50] <cyro> would i have to remove one before installing the other? for troubleshooting?
[15:51] <cyro> how did you go about doing that portion?
[15:51] <cyro> I may have missed that. I think i need to use a broadcom driver
[15:51] <gld1982ltd> right.
[15:52] <cyro> which i never downloaded an actual driver just an installer?
[15:52] <gld1982ltd> first try this command in your terminal to see if wireless is available.
[15:52] <cyro> ok
[15:52] <gld1982ltd> sudo modprobe b43
[15:53] <cyro> nothing happend?
[15:53] <cyro> i am connected through a dlink usb as of now but i would like to use the internal
[15:53] <gld1982ltd> now this command
[15:53] <cyro> k
[15:54] <gld1982ltd> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:55] <cyro> then i will come back and reconnect?
[15:55] <gld1982ltd> that should restart your network connection using the b43 firmware. you should have a connection....if not we can try something else.
[15:57] <cyro> yeah the apple network in task bar is still greyed out
[15:57] <cyro> hmm
[15:57] <silverarrow> do you guys use flash video  replacer?
[15:57] <silverarrow> it is gone ??!!
[15:57] <gld1982ltd> ok, you may need to install the broadcom drivers.
[15:57] <cyro> would i use ndiswrapper or is that old stuff
[15:58] <gld1982ltd> you want to use jockey
[15:58] <gld1982ltd> silverarrow: what is your question?
[15:58] <gld1982ltd> cyro: in your menu do you see additional drivers?
[15:59] <silverarrow> I am on powerpc too, and have until yesterday used flash video replacer on youtube,
[15:59] <silverarrow> but today, it seems to be gone
[15:59] <cyro> yes, I ran the additional drivers, and ran a system update
[16:00] <cyro> the additional drivers list is blank..
[16:01] <cyro> i think i should do a reinstall. I had no internet  yesterday and i installed through the live disk. it ran perfect! besides the fact i was not connected and didnt recieve updates at installation..that may be the error. however i did not receive the firmware error
[16:01] <kanliot> cyro ask on the forum, they are good help with ndiswrapper and hardware
[16:02] <silverarrow> of all the options, flash video replacer is the only one with good quality streams
[16:02] <cyro> I honestly have been online for a long time now, I read forums but i never sign up for them lol. .this time im going to have to
[16:03] <gld1982ltd> cyro: try the legacy b43 first.
[16:03] <gld1982ltd> what is your card?
[16:04] <cyro> thats the thing.. i my osx 10.1 it said it was airport 1.1.. but in lubuntu it says apple keylargo mac i/o
[16:04] <gld1982ltd> cyro: please run this command in the terminal..
[16:04] <gld1982ltd> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[16:05] <cyro> k
[16:05] <gld1982ltd> what is the output?
[16:05] <cyro> none
[16:06] <cyro> terminal went to the next line
[16:06] <gld1982ltd> ok, that stumps me. have you read over all the info here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Will_my_wireless_work.3F
[16:10] <cyro> for the most part i spent yesterday going over it
[16:11] <cyro> like i said.. i believe i just need a reinstall =p
[16:12] <gld1982ltd> ok my friend. if it doesn't bother you to do so, i would say fine. be sure to come back to this room afterward to let us know what went down.
[16:12] <cyro> ill bee backk'
[16:12] <gld1982ltd> k
[16:13]  * cyro says get dowwn!
[16:46] <mcdan> hi, i just installed lubuntu. Do you know any website concerning interface customization from A to Z.
[16:46] <holstein> you mean customizing the look/feel of LXDE?
[16:46] <mcdan> yes
[16:47] <holstein> i typically just search "lxde change wallpaper" for example.. or just ask here :)
[16:47] <mcdan> oh :)
[16:47] <holstein> i would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides
[16:51] <mcdan> perfect, I was looking for tricks to change keyboard shortcuts, thanks
[16:52] <holstein> i have been told obkey is nice http://code.google.com/p/obkey/ ..i just edit the rc.xml for it
[16:57] <mcdan> it's best done by hand
[17:08] <faLUCE> hi. I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. However, in /etc/apt/sources.list I still see "oneiric" in the lines of repos. why?
[17:09] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  how did you "upgrade" to 12.04?
[17:11] <faLUCE> TheLordOfTime: with a command line. I don't remember exactly which one, but I'm sure it upgraded the system (I have a diifferent desktop and a different login form)
[17:12] <holstein> faLUCE: try and find the command... confirm that it upgraded the system
[17:12] <faLUCE> holstein: I used dist-upgrade
[17:13] <TheLordOfTime> shouldnt that have been do-release-upgrade -d ?
[17:13] <faLUCE> TheLordOfTime: sorry. You are right
[17:13] <faLUCE> I used do-release-upgrade
[17:13] <holstein> faLUCE: do you get errors when you run sudo apt-get update ?
[17:13] <faLUCE> holstein: no
[17:14] <holstein> feel free and pastebin your sources file
[17:16] <faLUCE> pastebin.com/V6Tuq5HQ
[17:16] <faLUCE> http://pastebin.com/V6Tuq5HQ
[17:18] <faLUCE> I really don't understand
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  did you do do-release-upgrade, or do-release-upgrade -d?
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> there's a difference between thet wo
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> two*
[17:19] <holstein> faLUCE: doesnt look like you upgraded.. if you didnt do soemthing that took about 7 hours, you didnt upgrade
[17:19] <faLUCE> TheLordOfTime: I don't remember
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> holstein:  i'll bet he just did do-release-upgrade
[17:19] <faLUCE> holstein: it took much time
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> which doesn't upgrade to precise :P
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> or rather not fully......
[17:20] <holstein> yeah... i agree with TheLordOfTime ^^
[17:20] <holstein> faLUCE: did it take 7 hours or so?
[17:20] <faLUCE> well, if I do again do-release-upgrade
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  you could do do-release-upgrade -d
[17:20] <holstein> it wont take a few hours... it should take half a day
[17:20] <faLUCE> -d
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  add the -d to it
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> if you don't it wont upgrade you to precise
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> they changed how that works
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> (see release notes)
[17:20] <holstein> i *never* do upgrades other than to test... its just so much quicker to reinstall
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[17:21] <faLUCE> holstein: I can't reinstall. too hard to explain why.
[17:21] <faLUCE> anyway, I'll try -d
[17:21] <faLUCE> thanks
[17:21] <holstein> faLUCE: sure.. then i would try and properly upgrade.. you can always use the GUI as well
[17:22] <holstein> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade should be similar in lubuntu
[17:22] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130677/update-to-12-04-lts is what TheLordOfTime is suggesting
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> upgradingi via terminal from oneiric to precise needs -d to do it
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> (with do-release-upgrade)
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> in any flavor of ubuntu.
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> whether it be Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or plain Ubuntu
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> (do-release-upgrade changes apply to all)
[17:26] <faLUCE> if I execute do-release-upgrade -d the prompt says that it can't find a new version of ubuntu
[17:27] <holstein> faLUCE: yeah.. i wouldnt expect "it" to do much.. i would try the GUI and feel free and give us the exact error messages in a pastebin
[17:27] <faLUCE> holstein: which gui should i launch?
[17:28] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  i wonder if your system borked the upgrade...
[17:28] <holstein> faLUCE: the one that is referenced in that link i gave.. the update manager...
[17:29] <holstein> yup.. i would have liked to have caught you before you did what you did faLUCE
[17:29] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[17:29] <holstein> not sure what is happening.. though, seeing no errors when running sudo apt-get update is a good sign
[17:29] <faLUCE> TheLordOfTime: holstein if I launch update manager it doesn't tell me anything about upgrading to precise
[17:29] <TheLordOfTime> it shouldnt.
[17:30] <TheLordOfTime> again, they changed how upgrades are done
[17:30] <holstein> right... "it" wont tell you anything.. you'll have to just use it to upgrade if you'd like
[17:30] <faLUCE> I don't understand
[17:30] <holstein> its a tool.. and right now, you have mis-used a tool and potentially broken something
[17:30] <faLUCE> so, what can I do?
[17:31] <holstein> faLUCE: well, i would like for reinstalling to be on the table, since recovering from these errors can be tricky
[17:31] <faLUCE> holstein: I can't reinstall
[17:31] <holstein> faLUCE: can you run sudo apt-get update and pastebin me what it says?
[17:31] <holstein> faLUCE: right.. and you *can* fix this.. but im not saying it will be easy
[17:32] <holstein> it would be easier to take the hard drive to another machine and reinstall there i think
[17:32] <faLUCE> holstein: apt-get update says that it's all ok
[17:32] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  he wants the output
[17:32] <TheLordOfTime> everything it outputs
[17:32] <TheLordOfTime> not just "what the result" is
[17:32] <holstein> yeah.. i want to see as much of it as you feel like sharing
[17:33] <TheLordOfTime> (which should be everything, if you want the best help)
[17:33] <holstein> i want to see the output of lsb_release -a
[17:33] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[17:33] <holstein> i want to see uname -a
[17:34] <TheLordOfTime> for lsb_release -a, if you REALLY upgraded...
[17:34] <faLUCE> pastebin.com/DNe6eBrh
[17:34] <TheLordOfTime> it'll look like this for these two lines:
[17:34] <TheLordOfTime> Release:	12.04
[17:34] <TheLordOfTime> Codename:	precise
[17:34] <holstein> also, when that hard drive fails, reinstalling or reimaging will become a necessity, so you might want to consider planning for that for the future, and that might help with what you are dealing with right now
[17:35] <faLUCE> lsb_release gives me 11.04
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> faLUCE:  pastebin the output of both uname -a and lsb_release -a
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> ... wait, WHAT?
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> pastebin!
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> PASTEBIN!
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> ****PASTEBIN!***
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> (sorry, that's the coffee doing that... xD)
[17:36] <faLUCE> pastebin.com/pQjG8iNR
[17:36] <holstein> faLUCE: so, you are not upgraded.. you are running 11.10.. that everything looks like you are running 11.10.. you can run sudo do-release-upgrade -d and paste that output here if you get an error
[17:37] <faLUCE> holstein: the output message is in italian
[17:37] <faLUCE> it says:
[17:37] <holstein> faLUCE: feel free and help me with that translation if you' like
[17:37] <faLUCE> verifying a new release of ubuntu
[17:38] <faLUCE> can't find a new release
[17:38] <faLUCE> (anyway, this is a huge ubuntu bug))
[17:39] <holstein> you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Upgrading_Using_the_Alternate_CD.2BAC8-DVD
[17:40] <holstein> faLUCE: i dont think so.. i think its something you have started incorrectly, and thats fine...
[17:41] <silverarrow> isn`t there away about it though? to get the upgrade to 12.04 in update manager?
[17:41] <holstein> if it were me.. i would restart the machine, and maybe run the memory test.. maybe do a quick hard drive scan or test.. i would boot in and try te GUI and commandline looking for an upgrade, then i would consider the alternate CD upgrade method or reinstalling.. or i would try and confirm a bug if thats what i thought was going on
[17:43] <faLUCE> i'm downloading the alternate cd
[17:43] <silverarrow> there is a minimal ram  set for upgrading?
[17:44] <faLUCE> holstein: I'm pretty sure this is a HUGE bug
[17:44] <silverarrow> luckily disk utility
[17:44] <silverarrow> exist*
[17:44] <holstein> faLUCE: yeah?.. i test them each time.. i didnt encounter this bug.. there is evidence to support that you have issued the incorrect command in the terminal, which could have created a problem.. again, not a problem
[17:46] <faLUCE> holstein: why did you link the alternate version?
[17:46] <faLUCE> and not the desktop one?
[17:46] <silverarrow> I tried to file a backport request, has anyone done it before?
[17:47] <silverarrow> i opened terminal, and it is sort of stuck in "recording2
[17:47] <holstein> most folks just upgrade, and it takes a *long* time, but works... most of them do it from the GUI... or i think they ask before they get started
[17:47] <holstein> faLUCE: i linked a meahtod by wich you can upgrade using the alternate CD as a source
[17:48] <holstein> method*
[17:48] <faLUCE> holstein: ok but why did you choose the alternate version?
[17:49] <silverarrow> low in ram faLUCE ?
[17:49] <faLUCE> I mean: can the same thing be obtained with the desktop version?
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> i think alternate's a smaller download
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> i might be wrong though
[17:50] <faLUCE> anyway, thanks, Il
[17:51] <silverarrow> maybe, if there is an upgrade function in GUI, which I think I half remember noticing in some versions I have used
[17:51] <faLUCE> I'm trying that
[17:51] <holstein> faLUCE: because the guide i found suggested it, and i have used an alternate CD that way... try the live one is you like
[17:51] <faLUCE> ok
[17:52] <holstein> i was not able to use the desktop one as a source... but it literally wont hurt to try
[17:52] <holstein> though, i wouldnt consider it a "bug" if it doesnt work, since the guide specifies the alternate download
[17:53] <faLUCE> holstein: I would consider it a bug, since it took the system in a hybrid (unstable and broken) situation
[17:53] <holstein> faLUCE: not useing the live CD when the alternate is suggested
[17:54] <faLUCE> ?
[17:54] <holstein> also, using (maybe) do-release-upgrade instead of do-release-upgrade -d wouldnt be a bug
[17:54] <holstein> faLUCE: im saying,if you try the live CD and it doesnt show as a source, thats not something i would consider a bug
[17:55] <faLUCE> holstein: do you mean that if i try the live cd and it doesn't upgrade to 12.04 it could be a bug?
[17:56] <holstein> faLUCE: im saying that since I, and that page i linked suggested using the alternate image, and if you choose to use/try the live destkop image and it doesnt work.. i would just move on to the alternate imagine, and not consider the "failure" a bug
[18:00] <faLUCE> ok
[18:38] <faLUCE> holstein: you linked a guide for the ubuntu alternate cd. does it work with lubuntu alternate cd too?
[18:40] <bioterror> :--D
[18:40] <holstein> faLUCE: i would expect it to be the same..i have not needed to try that way personally
[18:40] <bioterror> holstein, what did you do
[18:40] <holstein> bioterror: hehe
[18:40] <bioterror> holstein, tomorrow you will spend a friday evening trying lubuntu alternate cd ;)
[18:41] <bioterror> mini.iso is all the same
[18:41] <bioterror> but the alt cd's aint
[18:41] <bioterror> they have certain packages inside
[18:41] <holstein> bioterror: this is for a source... to upgrade
[18:41] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:41] <bioterror> I've never upgraded with a CD
[18:41] <holstein> maybe you can get faLUCE to elaborate
[18:42] <bioterror> I have only done do-release-upgrade
[18:42] <holstein> faLUCE: is having issues upgrading after a failed attempt
[18:43] <faLUCE> bioterror: I got a new desktop, a new login form, and... oid oneiric repos in sources.list. that''s weird
[18:43] <faLUCE> old oneiric
[18:45] <bioterror> you could fix the sources.list?-)
[18:45] <holstein> bioterror: nothing indicates 12.04
[18:46] <faLUCE> bioterror: how?
[18:48] <bioterror> by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:49] <faLUCE> bioterror: but ALL the repos in sources.list are for oneiric
[18:49] <faLUCE> should I change all the lines??
[18:51] <bioterror> with vi or vim next command: :%s/oneiric/precise/g
[18:51] <bioterror> and it should replace all the oneiric words with precise ,)
[18:51] <bioterror> then !wq
[18:51] <bioterror> which saves and quits
[18:51] <menethoril> I think I might have heard something about this, but will XFS partition setup during install be an issue still for 12.10?
[18:52] <faLUCE> bioterror: ok, and then I have to update and cross fingers? :-)
[18:53] <bioterror> something like that ;)
[18:53] <bioterror> but you said
[18:53] <bioterror> you had things changed?
[18:53] <silverarrow> is anyone still in firefox 14?
[18:53] <bioterror> right?
[18:53] <bioterror> you have halfway done upgrade?
[18:54] <faLUCE> bioterror: I don t know. i don't remember if i upgraded with -d or not
[18:55] <bioterror> okay
[19:07] <faLUCE> bioterror: great!
[19:07] <faLUCE> it worked
[19:07] <bioterror> your system is now messed up and you're coming to my door?-)
[19:08] <faLUCE> :-)
[19:08] <faLUCE> well, apt update went fine
[19:08] <bioterror> hope so
[19:08] <faLUCE> now, I'm trying to install something from precise repos
[19:08] <silverarrow> so, when do we update to 12.10?
[19:08] <bioterror> silverarrow, when you want?
[19:09] <silverarrow> I am thinking of beta, but maybe a bit scary
[19:09] <silverarrow> lol
[19:09] <silverarrow> I can wait until october
[20:21] <silverarrow> hi
[20:23] <gld1982ltd> hi
[20:24] <silverarrow> have you requested a backport ?
[20:24] <silverarrow> I am in the middle of it sort of
[20:25] <silverarrow> like this http://imagebin.org/226486
[20:26] <gld1982ltd> no ={
[20:31] <silverarrow> how do I get passed "recording" ?
[20:32] <silverarrow> network usually gets sorted out fairly quickly
[21:18] <silverarrow> is quantal safe for mere morals to install ?
[21:19] <silverarrow> a few hickups is managable as long as it is nothing major
[21:20] <Unit193> No way to know really, it{s just almost to beta so many things can happen and break.  You are on PPC and that{s even less supported, so you{d have a lot of fun.
[21:38] <zleap> Interesting
[21:39] <zleap> i have just right clicked on /media/kingston and selected properties with the view of finding disk space,  its an 8gb flash disk,  10.7 TB (10,692,911,955,968 bytes
[21:39] <zleap> size on disk
[21:41] <zleap> is there a bug somewhere
[21:42] <gld1982ltd> does anyone know why the power button won't work on my laptop? the keybindings are right.
[21:58] <holstein> gld1982ltd: i find the power button doesnt do anything in lxde
[21:58] <holstein> i would check out http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=205
[22:00] <Shreddicus> Is anybody else having problems with Chromium? It's always crashing to the "Aw, snap!" page, usually with flash related sites.
[22:01] <holstein> thats the "flash crashed" page.. i use chrome, since it has its own flash in there.. you can try troubleshooting flash
[22:05] <Shreddicus> I haven't actually installed flash this time around (though I did another time with the same problem). I'm thinking, after reading online, it may have something to do with html5 or something. Oh well, I'll just get chrome or something. Thanks for the reply.
[22:56] <silverarrow> hi
[22:56] <silverarrow> anyone on?
[22:57] <gld1982ltd> hi
[22:57] <silverarrow> I have been wondering about one thing
[22:58] <silverarrow> I have just removed midori from package manager "complete removal"
[22:58] <silverarrow> or rather yesterday
[22:58] <silverarrow> I just installed it all over, and all bookmarks and settings I made are still there
[22:59] <silverarrow> how is that possible?
[22:59] <silverarrow> something was for sure not completely removed
[23:00] <Sentynel> the package manager doesn't know where a given piece of software sticks its user-specific data and settings
[23:00] <gld1982ltd> some applications store configuration files in /home/$USER/.config completely removing a package in synaptic only removes system wide files. you ahve to manually delete the personall files in your .config folder. jsut hit ctr+h to see hidden files in the file manager.
[23:01] <silverarrow> I see
[23:01] <silverarrow> I don`t mind though, I just thought it was a bit odd
[23:01] <gld1982ltd> so, if you delete the personal config files of any application, the app will be set back to it's default config.
[23:03] <silverarrow> good not know
[23:03] <silverarrow> thanks
[23:43] <gld1982ltd> shit....try that again.
[23:44] <gld1982ltd> i messed up
[23:44] <gld1982ltd> oooooh.......sorrry! wrong room!