[00:40] <Daekdroom> Are progressbars really supposed to have a white stripe across them in the center?
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[08:10] <Walther> Now this is one of the weirdest issues I've seen.
[08:10] <Walther> pressing <alt> for the command thingy borks a layout in chromium AND firefox
[08:12] <Walther> Actually, switching desktops works as well
[08:12] <Walther> ...hm, I wonder if switching desktops changes your viewport size
[08:19] <Walther> Yeah, it must be related to viewport size. Why on earth opening Dash / switching desktops / pressing Alt changes your viewport size?
[08:19] <Walther> Reproducible on the page I'm currently developing http://walther.kapsi.fi/ouluntaikurit/Yhdistys.html
[08:19] <Walther> go to slide Taikurit
[08:20] <Walther> press alt or switch desktops
[08:20] <Walther> suddenly the slide width changes so that they start to overlap
[08:20] <Walther> refresh page, clean again
[08:21] <Walther> I'm required to have <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width">
[08:21] <Walther> so it plays nice with mobile browsers
[10:24] <Seiji22> Hello
[10:26] <Seiji22> Yesterday I installed Lubuntu 12.10 fresh install, after running the updater it did a partial upgrade rebooting to terminal with no X, the same thing happened with Xubuntu 12.10 alpha 3, after the partial upgrade it rebooted to terminal with no X.
[10:26] <Seiji22> Is this a known issue and is there a bug report about it on launchpad which i can follow to see when it's resolved?
[10:26] <Seiji22> I can't find anything with google, I'm not a linux pro.
[10:29] <Seiji22> Also, If I use 12.10 Alpha 3 and wait for a month, and then try to update, will the updates be changed to other updates which hopefully will not kill X, or the same updates will be applied and then newer ones?
[10:56] <Varikonniemi> hello, i would like to ask if there is some imporvoments in store to the notification bubble system?
[10:56] <Varikonniemi> like customize how many show at once and for how long, animations, manual close method etc.
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[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:47] <jussi01> can anyone comment on the nvidia status right now in Quantal? ie. is it borked or does it work?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> jussi01, I just installed nvidia-curren yesterday 304.43 driver
[12:01] <jussi01> BluesKaj: and its working fine?
[12:02] <BluesKaj> err nvidia-current ..used the tty method , not from kjockey cause I'm not sure which one to choose...yes working well
[12:11] <jussi01> BluesKaj: thanks
[12:12] <BluesKaj> jussi01, which card  mine is just an elcheapo 8400gs
[12:15] <jussi01> 8600
[12:56] <keffie_jayx> Hello
[12:57] <keffie_jayx> is the file manager being changed now? I read discussions but haven't kept up with it and I just updated and have no file manager
[13:28] <Varikonniemi> the nautilus stays at old version, yes
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[13:57] <keffie_jayx> Varikonniemi: but right now there is no file manager in 12.10, I do not have a file manager installed, was it removed ?
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[13:58] <Varikonniemi> weird if it is removed
[14:00] <effiejayx> yep
[14:01] <effiejayx> upgraded yesterday and file asociations to folders is all pointing to Disk Usage Analizer
[14:02] <effiejayx> if anybody could advise on what I should do, I do not know if it is only happening to me or what. I wouldn't like to thing this is a general bug
[14:02] <effiejayx> I am well aware of the discussions for changing the file manager
[14:03] <effiejayx> but I do not know what to do at this point
[14:19] <zoktar> is there any tool to switch from xubuntu boot/login screen to standard unity?
[14:21] <gotwig> hey there
[14:21] <gotwig> do you can tell me what Ubuntu is going to do versus all these GNOME mutant applications?
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[14:31] <Varikonniemi> i dont think its such a bad design, its essentially same as chrome uses
[14:47] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek last day starting in 13 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:10] <keffie_jayx> Varikonniemi: seems like something uninstalled ubuntu-desktop
[15:10] <keffie_jayx> I am reinstalling
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[19:10] <psypher246> HI all
[19:19] <psypher246> does anyone else have 100% or constantly high cpu when running quantal on nouveau drivers. I have just done a fresh install on an HP micro server with 1.3ghz dualcore neo processor and the desktop is pretty much unusable. had a look in software sources for the prop drivers but not listed. They not ready yet?
[19:34] <histo> !info nvidia-current | psypher246
[19:34] <ubottu> psypher246: nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.32-0ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 37157 kB, installed size 105612 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia)
[19:35] <psypher246> histo: thanks will try, is there an easy way to disable nouveau and try out llvmpipe?
[23:12] <piero> how much usable in a production (but not critical) desktop is the alpha3? I'm looking for something like: 7/10 (unity is crashing a lot)
[23:14] <piero> All my life I used a rolling release OS, I don't think its good to install 12.04 if 12.10 is a month ahead, right? (this computer doesnt control any nuclear missle)
[23:17] <histo> why not just use 12.04 now and upgrade when 12.10 comes out?
[23:17] <histo> piero: you can easilly upgrade as the new version comes out
[23:18] <piero> histo, and what about the trash?
[23:19] <histo> piero: what trash?
[23:20] <piero> histo, well.. upgrades are not perfect at all.. every time a upgrade a package some configuration, cache or something doesnt looks like a clear install
[23:21] <piero> man, its all about your feelings.. not a technical question: how much stable and.. complete is the alpha?
[23:21] <histo> piero: the old package is remove and the new one is installed.
[23:22] <histo> piero: youc an always sudo apt-get clean    if you want ot remove the old archives of packages
[23:22] <piero> apt-get clean will just clear the cache in /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:23] <piero> apt-get autoremove can remove some unwanted packages..
[23:23] <piero> do u use the alpha histo?
[23:23] <histo> no not at the moment
[23:24] <piero> if yes, how much times u wanted to kick your computer today?
[23:25] <histo> piero: is there a particular reason you want the instability?
[23:25] <histo> piero: I would just idle in here and see all the problems people are having
[23:25] <piero> no.. but I want to try the new features..
[23:25] <piero> without having much headache
[23:25] <histo> piero: well there are going tob e headaches
[23:26] <histo> piero: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal
[23:26] <piero> cool! Im going to read it
[23:57] <h00k> so, I just threw the daily on my netbook, my desktop is..appears to be crashing and re-opening? As in, my wallpaper disappears, I get tooltip artifacts. I'm not sure if this is a driver thing, or if nautilus is broken?