| Maro848 | is there a way to install the old gnome 2 desktop environmet from the repositories in 12.04 or do I have to rely of modifying the gnome fallback mode after I install the gnome 3 desktop? | 01:16 |
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| === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin | ||
| ms-daisy | wilee-nilee!!!! | 01:30 |
| wilee-nilee | hi ms-daisy, things going well? | 01:31 |
| ms-daisy | indeed, thanks! You? | 01:33 |
| wilee-nilee | yes pretty good, can't complain. ;) | 01:33 |
| nUboon2Age | geirha: just a note that 12.04 LTS desktop is also 5 year support. They changed the policy from 3 to 5 years. | 05:10 |
| bioterror | seems like geirha stands now corrected ;) | 05:12 |
| bioterror | hi nUboon2Age ;) | 05:15 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ubuntu | hey can i get help | 12:04 |
| === ubuntu is now known as gendy | ||
| nothingspecial | yuo would better in a support channel gendy, what's up ? | 12:05 |
| gendy | my hard disk isn't read at live ubuntu | 12:05 |
| nothingspecial | when you try to install ? | 12:06 |
| gendy | look , here is the whole matter | 12:06 |
| gendy | my hard disk is 500 gb sata | 12:06 |
| nothingspecial | oops this is a support channel, ignore my first reply :D | 12:06 |
| gendy | ok | 12:07 |
| nothingspecial | so you can't view your hard drive ? | 12:07 |
| gendy | yes | 12:07 |
| gendy | but it apppear on windows 7 drives list as basic | 12:08 |
| nothingspecial | what happens if you choose "try ubuntu" can you see it in the sidebar of the file browser ? | 12:08 |
| gendy | no | 12:08 |
| gendy | what i can see is my 160 gb hard disk | 12:08 |
| nothingspecial | is this an external hard drive you are talking about ? | 12:09 |
| gendy | no | 12:10 |
| nothingspecial | I don't know gendy, have you tried in #ubuntu ? | 12:10 |
| gendy | ok , i'll try it | 12:11 |
| nothingspecial | ok | 12:11 |
| usk | hi! i'm having troubles with do-release-upgrade... i was running it in a remote console and that machine is very slow, so the screen session of the upgrade locked and asks for root password (which isn't set of course). i still have access via ssh, so i tried sudo passwd root, but screen still won't unlock. any ideas how i could fix this? | 13:42 |
| holstein | usk: what are you doing? upgrading a machine you dont have physical access to? | 14:14 |
| holstein | i would expect to run all those commands as root.. sudo | 14:15 |
| usk | holstein: nevermind, i used screen -R per ssh to recover the session | 14:16 |
| usk | holstein: and then i messed it up by pressing ctrl+c because i thought it froze when it was just really really slow | 14:16 |
| usk | holstein: so now i have to do dpkg-reconf anyways ^^ | 14:17 |
| holstein | well... you dont have to upgrade.. if you are on 12.04 LTS and its a server, you might want to stay on the LTS | 14:18 |
| usk | holstein: it was 10.04 before | 14:20 |
| holstein | and still is? | 14:20 |
| usk | no, screen locked some time during updating the packets | 14:20 |
| usk | holstein: so the repos are already changed | 14:21 |
| holstein | cool... sounds like a mess... | 14:21 |
| usk | holstein: yeah... at least that thing isn't in production ^^ | 14:21 |
| usk | holstein: good idea using screen for the do-release-upgrade script when that bug still isn't patched in the repos -.- | 14:22 |
| holstein | that bug? | 14:22 |
| usk | holstein: the screen bug that locked me out in the first place: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen/+bug/6760 | 14:23 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 6760 in screen "Screen asks for root password" [Medium,Fix released] | 14:23 |
| holstein | hmmm... thats the bug you encountered? | 14:25 |
| usk | ah fix released sounds good... sadly not for arm-arch. did an upgrade before the release-upgrade that didn't help :( | 14:25 |
| holstein | ive done sudo commands in screen and screen didnt ask for a password, it just reconnected | 14:25 |
| usk | holstein: yeah, maybe you already have the patched version | 14:26 |
| holstein | i *never* run sudo screen though | 14:26 |
| usk | holstein: it's in the do-release-upgrade script, i don't do that either usually | 14:26 |
| holstein | i would just start a screen session and sudo command or sudo -s | 14:27 |
| usk | holstein: once the dpkg-reconf is through i'll test, maybe it's just the 10.04 arm-arch repos that are outdated | 14:27 |
| usk | holstein: i did do-release-upgrade and it asked for sudo rights and then continued to launch screen -.- | 14:28 |
| holstein | im not following exactly what you did.. im just saying what i have done, which "just worked" | 14:28 |
| usk | holstein: and i'm trying to explain what didn't work ^^ | 14:28 |
| holstein | cool.. im just testing here too, and reconnecting to screen sessions where im logged in as root | 14:30 |
| holstein | i just wouldnt start screen as root | 14:30 |
| usk | heh if i had an option i wouldn't either, but the ubuntu do-release-upgrade script does it automatically | 14:30 |
| holstein | does what? starts screen? | 14:30 |
| usk | why on earth would i give screen su rights? ^^ | 14:30 |
| usk | yes that script uses screen to log | 14:31 |
| holstein | maybe you can help track down that bug then... thats not what that bug is about from what i read | 14:31 |
| usk | yes it is... the problem is this. user starts do-release-upgrade (without sudo). do-release-upgrade asks for sudo permission (without which it can't continue). then, with sudo rights, do-release-upgrade starts screen. after a while screen locks because of inactivity, and then this known bug happens | 14:33 |
| holstein | sure, but that bug is looking at screen, and i dont see that as the issue | 14:34 |
| holstein | either way, you should try the server channel or mailing list... maybe someone knows whats up with that script on that arch | 14:34 |
| usk | yeah... i guess i will | 14:35 |
| usk | it's easy to bypass if you have a second way of accessing the machine though | 14:36 |
| holstein | sure, but if its a bug in that script, it should be sorted... there are not a lot of arm users | 14:36 |
| beginner007 | Dear Community, simple beginner question, but i am freightend to lose my data. Is i possible via Boot of Ubuntu BootCd (InstallCD) to reduce existing partitionsizes, to install Ubuntu to a new one while have a "backup" at the now reduced partition... is this possiblke via Installation BootCD Gui? | 17:42 |
| holstein | you are frightened?.. i wouldnt be frightened.. i would be certain that all hard driver *will* fail and plan for it | 17:42 |
| holstein | i would back up you data however you choose and go from there.. you dont want backups on the same hard drive | 17:43 |
| holstein | hard drives* ..not "hard driver" | 17:44 |
| beginner007 | My actual situation is i have to switch from Openelec.tv to Ubuntu because of hardware incompabilities... but i have ~ 1 TB of TV recordings and i don't want to burn DVDs of that.... | 17:44 |
| beginner007 | hoped its possible to get around to b uy a new harddrive... | 17:44 |
| beginner007 | for backup that stuff | 17:45 |
| beginner007 | holstein german? | 17:45 |
| beginner007 | incompatibilities. | 17:46 |
| beginner007 | I thought, .... and i don't know anything about it... Boot from install CD > recognising old OS (openelec) > Diskpart or something to reduce dize of main partition, create new and install ubuntu on it.... | 17:48 |
| beginner007 | so no way in? | 17:49 |
| holstein | you can just use the live CD to "grab" data | 17:50 |
| holstein | i would just look for leagal ways to obtain stores of that content.. maybe on DVD or streaming | 17:50 |
| holstein | otherwise, i can help you try and locate "data" | 17:50 |
| beginner007 | Sorry i don't understand... leagal ways? I used Openelec.tv PVR on Fusion and get stuck with that xvba Blocking... so i thought to switch to ubuntu... some people say there ist something like a fglx (i don#t remember exactly) driver wich does better perform... | 17:52 |
| holstein | beginner007: what im saying is, im not going to help you "save" a bunch of tv shows that you arent supposed to have saved | 17:53 |
| holstein | i will help with data.. | 17:53 |
| beginner007 | you shouldn#t help with data, i asked for partitionresizing... | 17:54 |
| holstein | beginner007: cool | 17:55 |
| holstein | beginner007: i use gparted.. you can get that from *any* live CD.. or gparted live | 17:55 |
| beginner007 | gparted is able to resize partions savely? | 17:55 |
| beginner007 | ok, thank you.. i will try that.... | 17:56 |
| holstein | beginner007: i *always* back up data before doing anything like that | 17:57 |
| holstein | all hard drives fail.. resizing is risky.. there is no way to guarantee | 17:57 |
| beginner007 | if the tv recordings DVR PVR are lost i will survive... but there are much christmas stuff and so on for familiy... and lots of work... - i administer a server... on that i do backups too... ^^ but not 1 TB of TV Stuff... thats not important enough... but i don#t want it lost also... | 17:58 |
| holstein | beginner007: all hard drives fail, so eventually all data you have on one hard drive will be lost | 17:58 |
| beginner007 | if i can do anything other that format the harddisc ;) | 17:59 |
| holstein | there are recovery tools... photorec part of testdisk works great | 17:59 |
| beginner007 | i will make a backup of it, but i have to transcode that stuff to x264 and that takes time ifg i will do a good job.... | 18:00 |
| holstein | yeah.. pirating content is time consuming | 18:00 |
| beginner007 | i don#t want to transcode now, i want to install ubuntu now... but i think maybe i will take out the harddrive out of the pvr and install it in my desktopcomputer to copy that onto my regular harddisk.... | 18:01 |
| beginner007 | In germany its allowed to record tv content. | 18:01 |
| beginner007 | thats no pirating here. | 18:01 |
| holstein | enjoy!.. id treat it like any data then... back it up or expect it to be gone | 18:02 |
| beginner007 | i think you are a little bit too rough for beginners... i never pirated anything... and i think you should lern to behave fiendlier... this is beginers of ubuntu. You are right with securing data, but i feel little bit fed up with your behaviour to me. I#ve done nothing bad, i only asked for help to resize my partition of pvr content (which is completly legal). | 18:04 |
| beginner007 | Thank you for the tip with gparted... if its good as paragon diskmanager it will do its job without trashing data. | 18:07 |
| holstein | beginner007: thanks for your opinion.. you are more than welcome to hang here and provide support in the way you choose... and i will support you! | 18:07 |
| holstein | i have always said i would help you and discuss "data" management with you | 18:08 |
| beginner007 | thats the way of community.... | 18:08 |
| beginner007 | do you think i have to provide support and then i get support? | 18:10 |
| holstein | beginner007: didnt mean to imply that.. what im saying is, you can provide support in the way you see fit here.. and as long as its with the code of conduct, i will be only supportive or you doing so | 18:13 |
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