[00:35] <drag0nius> hello
[00:35] <drag0nius> anyone knows some good ajax irc?
[00:36] <drag0nius> *client
[00:55] <arrrghhh> back.  anyone use PS3MediaServer?  trying to get the upstart script to work, and I don't quite understand it.
[00:56] <smoser> hallyn around?
[00:57] <smoser> maybe sgraber is, he peobably knows.
[00:57] <arrrghhh> smoser, are you talking to me...?
[00:58] <smoser> either one. how would i start dnsmasq that lxc runs to specify 'dhcp-boot=pxelinux.0,hostname,ip.address'
[00:58] <smoser> arrrghhh, no, was talking to stgraber but yeah, did typo
[00:58] <luigy> anyone can help w/ iptables and openvpn.  I can successfully connect, but need further configurations to be able to access my NFSshare which is hosted on the same machine as my openvpn server
[01:00] <smoser> it loks like the answer is 'edit /etc/init/lxc.conf'
[01:05] <arrrghhh> how about help troubleshooting an upstart script in general?  i can start the program by hand, but the upstart script just says "ps3mediaserver stop/pre-start, process 14131" - and there is no pid 14313
[01:05] <arrrghhh> er
[01:05] <arrrghhh> 14131.   either way.
[02:40] <hallyn> lastlog hallyn 3
[04:31] <drag0nius> hmm
[04:31] <drag0nius> everything on my server is running extremely slow
[04:31] <drag0nius> got 2gb ram c2d 2.4 ghz
[04:32] <drag0nius> usage is ~5% cpu 400 mb ram, but everything is like running on some overloaded machine
[04:33] <drag0nius> any ideas?
[04:34] <lickalott> run top and see whats eating resources
[04:34] <drag0nius> the thing is
[04:35] <drag0nius> there isnt anything
[04:35] <drag0nius> htop tells me usages is ~5% on cpu and ~300 mb on ram
[04:35] <lickalott> there isn't any processes running when you do top
[04:36] <drag0nius> i mean nothing is eating much resources
[04:36] <lickalott> ahh
[04:37] <lickalott> maybe it's network related?  are you running any network intensive apps
[04:37] <drag0nius> dont think so
[04:37] <drag0nius> and im also running it on lan
[04:38] <lickalott> no znc/bncs running
[04:38] <drag0nius> what?
[04:38] <lickalott> k
[04:39] <lickalott> nvm then
[04:39] <lickalott> whats your uptime?
[04:39] <drag0nius> i restarted like hour ago
[04:40] <lickalott> hrmmm
[04:40] <lickalott> netstat -a | grep 80  or any other ports that you have open to apps (ftp, telnet, etc...)
[04:41] <drag0nius> also when i log with putty
[04:41] <drag0nius> theres like 5 sec delay after entering username and receiving password propmpt
[04:42] <lickalott> is that what you're baseing your opinion off of?  or is it slow on the actual machine too?
[04:42] <lickalott> mine slows down also, at times, when using putty
[04:43] <drag0nius> i recently installed ajax app
[04:43] <drag0nius> and its extremely slow
[04:43] <drag0nius> like responding to action after few sec
[04:44] <lickalott> are you scripting or using java intensive apps?
[04:44] <drag0nius> i wrote java app using vaadin
[04:44] <drag0nius> and another one is just some irc client for web
[04:44] <drag0nius> sec
[04:44] <lickalott> java and ajax are resource hogs (usually)
[04:45] <drag0nius> try http://d3calc.drag0nius.pl/
[04:45] <drag0nius> friend told me its extremely slow through internet, locally its simply not as fast ast it could be
[04:46] <drag0nius> first load takes lots of time afaik
[04:47] <drag0nius> im just out of ideas
[04:47] <drag0nius> if you entered it nothing unusual happened
[04:48] <lickalott> yeah that took 4-EVA to load
[04:49] <drag0nius> just had around 1 mb uploaded
[04:49] <drag0nius> min ago
[04:50] <drag0nius> so out of ideas?
[04:51] <drag0nius> seems like it tries to use least resources or something
[04:51] <drag0nius> its lazy xD
[04:52] <lickalott> lol
[04:53] <lickalott> have any ram laying around?  maybe try to feed the beast a little more
[04:53] <drag0nius> it has 2gb of some very fast ram
[04:53] <drag0nius> uses just 320 mb
[04:53] <drag0nius> according to htop
[04:54] <drag0nius> im using server also as a router directly connected to modem
[04:54] <drag0nius> pings are fine and everything
[04:54] <drag0nius> just stuff running directly on it
[04:55] <lickalott> it is recent?
[04:55] <drag0nius> what you mean?
[04:56] <drag0nius> parts, applications?
[05:04] <drag0nius> maybe you know some reasonable web irc client with logging in?
[05:08] <lickalott> i mean is it recent that it started running slow.
[05:09] <lickalott> what do you mean "web irc client with logging in?"
[05:11] <drag0nius> irc client running on ajax preferably
[05:11] <drag0nius> with user accounts, so it would remember history etc
[05:12] <lickalott> i don't.  only 3rd party irc client I know of that's not mainstream is written in python
[05:22] <drag0nius> well i want something that does not require anything but browser
[05:24] <lickalott> mibbitt
[05:25] <drag0nius> does it allow any kind of irc server?
[05:25] <drag0nius> from first glance looked like connecting to just theirs
[05:26] <lickalott> never used it.  it's the only one I know of that's web based
[05:27] <lickalott> see if they have an api and reverse engineer that shit for java...LOL
[05:28] <lickalott> wondering if anyone has seen this issue before:  I have 3 drives mounted through fstab and shared out via NFS through exports.  Im also sharing one of the drive out via apache.  After the apache installation and configuration, I can't "map network drive"(nfs) the one drive that is shared out on apache
[05:31] <drag0nius> yeah, mibbit is banned from both servers i use
[05:51] <Rask> If this is the wrong channel in which to ask this, feel free to redirect me... My experience level is "enough to be dangerous".  :)  I'm trying to recover some data off one drive out of a RAID 1 array using a USB-SATA adapter.  Ubuntu sees it and fdisk -l shows that it has three "Linux raid autodetect" partitions on it.  How would I go about mounting this-- and indeed, is it doable?
[05:54] <lickalott> cd /dev
[05:54] <lickalott> see if you have sdb1 (2, 3) or sdc1 (2, 3) available
[05:55] <lickalott> then just try mounting them to a folder
[05:55] <lickalott> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/test
[05:56] <Rask> mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[05:56] <lickalott> hrmmm
[05:57] <lickalott> wait 1
[05:57] <Rask> Sure.  (Thanks!)
[05:58] <lickalott> mount -t ext2 maybe?
[05:59] <lickalott> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/recovering-data-from-remaining-raid-1-disk-723225/
[05:59] <lickalott> time to go wash my arse.  good luck man
[06:00] <Rask> Thanks, I'll give that a read.
[06:22] <stgraber> smoser: yeah, overriding the upstart job (lxc-net.conf) would do the trick, alternatively, set one of the variables in /etc/default to contain the extra options you want (hackish, but will avoid changing the upstart job)
[06:24] <Rask> lickalott: Just got it mounted.  Thanks for that link.  :D
[08:08] <ogra_> rbasak, seeing your mail to the cross-distro list ... shouldnt you first discuss with dhcp upstream ? they need to make a protocol change for what you ask for ... (or if you want to work around changing the protocol you should explain how you plan that in the bug)
[08:11] <eagles0513875_> hey guys I am looking at the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed and im a bit lost as to the networking portion a bit are there any xen specialists in here?
[08:12] <rbasak> ogra_: DHCP?
[08:12] <rbasak> ogra_: the point is to not use DHCP
[08:13] <ogra_> rbasak, well, DHCP is doing the negotiation of what gets sent on the server side if you use PXE
[08:13] <rbasak> ogra_: no, the pxelinux emulation does
[08:13] <ogra_> you only describe changes to the client side and an option that the server needs to understand
[08:14] <rbasak> The change I've proposed is to U-Boot's pxe emulation only. Nothing else needs to change.
[08:14] <rbasak> Definitely not DHCP
[08:14] <ogra_> buut youo dont describe how the server side is supposed to learn about it
[08:14] <rbasak> It will learn it when U-Boot fetches default.<arch>-<subarch> via TFTP
[08:15] <rbasak> Which I propose it does at the pxelinux emulation stage, before falling back to "default" as normal
[08:16] <ogra_> so how does pxe learn about <arch>-<subarch> *without* making changes to the protocol ?
[08:16] <rbasak> pxe?
[08:16] <rbasak> I don't understand your question
[08:17] <ogra_> well, on the server side *something* needs to decide if it sends an arch specific kernel or the default
[08:17] <rbasak> Forgetting MAAS for a moment to keep this simple, if you're doing things manually you just dump a pxelinux.cfg/default.arm-highbank in your tftp server which refers to a highbank kernel
[08:18] <rbasak> And leave pxelinux.cfg/default for i386/amd64
[08:19] <rbasak> If you want to use a pxelinux.cfg/01-ab-cd-ef-12-34-56-78 to be specific to the MAC, then you need to know the architecture (or pick it up via the existing DHCP mechanism)
[08:19] <ogra_> still, thats done using a defined protocol ... you are proposing changes to that protocol that also should go into the upstream definition of that protocol
[08:19]  * eagles0513875_ wonders what is being discussed here
[08:19] <rbasak> No, it's not done using a defined protocol
[08:19] <rbasak> It's a U-Boot invented emulation
[08:19] <rbasak> pxelinux only exists for Intel and so this is not needed there
[08:19] <ogra_> eagles0513875_, bug 1041092 (and a mail to the cross-distro list about it)
[08:20] <rbasak> I admit that other theoretical pxelinux emulators that work cross-arch will ideally do the same thing
[08:20] <rbasak> This is what I meant by "<arch> and <subarch> must be defined in a new pxelinux emulator namespace"
[08:20] <rbasak> But this change *only* applies to pxelinux *emulators* on non-Intel architectures
[08:20] <rbasak> Which, AFAIK, is only U-Boot currently
[08:21] <ogra_> right, i just think you should make the PXE side "more official" by having such a change made rather globally ....
[08:21] <rbasak> Please, stop calling it PXE. It's pxelinux (if upstream) or pxelinux emulation (if U-Boot)
[08:21] <rbasak> There is no official definition
[08:22] <rbasak> I'd happily try and make it more official, but it doesn't apply to pxelinux upstream. Only to pxelinux emulators
[08:22]  * ogra_ remembers how ultra painful it was to make PPC macs work as thin clients when he did LTSP ... it would have massively helped back then to have such a feature just in the PXE setup 
[08:22] <rbasak> (since PXE doesn't exist for ARM)
[08:22] <ogra_> well, PXE is the protocol ... pxelinux uses that protocol
[08:22] <rbasak> No, it does not
[08:22] <rbasak> Well OK, it does
[08:22] <ogra_> or a superset of it :)
[08:22] <rbasak> But I am not proposing any change to the PXE protocol
[08:23] <rbasak> U-Boot does not use any PXE protocol
[08:23] <ogra_> well, it pretends to :)
[08:23] <rbasak> No, it does not
[08:23] <rbasak> It pretends to do what pxelinux does
[08:23] <rbasak> But that part of what pxelinux does is not part of PXE
[08:24] <rbasak> That part is invented by pxelinux as an extension to the syslinux configuration format
[08:24] <rbasak> The only relevant group in its definition is pxelinux/syslinux upstream
[08:25] <rbasak> It is very important here to not conflate the two parts.
[08:28] <ogra_> well, its your project ... i would just think having a properly defined RFC or some such that defines arch specific support in netboot protocols which then get implemented in teh bootloader might be better than hacking up one bootloader specifically ... at least for the long term
[08:29] <rbasak> OK, so you're proposing that I take my proposal and write it up into an RFC?
[08:29] <soren> I'm with rbasak on this. pxelinux.0 is loaded using PXE, but its protocol for finding its boot configuration is a pxelinux thing. I very much see the value in having upstream pxelinux be part of the process of adding this extension, though.
[08:29] <ogra_> i'm just thinking we have an opportunity here to take the lead as MaaS upstream to do it properly
[08:29] <rbasak> I can write to the pxelinux guys and explain what U-Boot is doing, and ask them to hold the master namespace definition.
[08:30] <rbasak> in case there are any other people who want to emulate them
[08:30] <rbasak> on different architectures
[08:30] <rbasak> But I don't expect them to adopt this at all, since it only applies to non-Intel, which they don't do
[08:31] <ogra_> (i dont think what you ask is wrong, i'm fully with you on it ... i just think we should think more globally and fix it for everyone if we start such an initiative)
[08:31] <rbasak> Who is everyone?
[08:31] <rbasak> I'm only aware of U-Boot
[08:31] <ogra_> well, there are hundrets of arm bootloders :)
[08:31] <ogra_> we have linke 5 or so in the archive even
[08:31] <rbasak> Do any of them emulate pxelinux?
[08:32] <soren> a) It's their configuration protocol we're extending. b) What if they ever decide to expand into the non-Intel space?   I think it's important to have them be part of the process.
[08:32] <ogra_> most of tehm can do netbooting one or the other way
[08:32] <rbasak> soren: sure. I have no objection to getting in touch with them.
[08:32] <ogra_> some of them can be scripted to fake PXE like u-boot does
[08:33] <rbasak> Apart from some upstream pxelinux mailing list (which I doubt pxelinux emulator maintainers read!), where else is an appropriate forum, apart from the cross-distro list?
[08:33] <ogra_> (oh, and tehre is always PPC and MIPS too that have their own bootloaders ;) )
[08:35] <ogra_> rbasak, probably start with syslinux upstream and walk up the hierarchy from there, not sure
[08:36] <Kingsy> can someone in here talk to me about atopsar? I have no experience with analyzing load averages andf stuff, so it would be cool if someone could talk through some stuff?
[08:37] <Kingsy> I have been googling but there doesnt seem to be any good tutorials on it, and the manual page is alot to take in
[08:37] <soren> rbasak: hpa seems to be the primary contributor to pxelinux. You could poke him and ask for the best forum for this discussion.
[08:59] <th0mz> does any1 have an idea how to get support for SVG in php5-imagick ? please
[08:59] <th0mz> (Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS")
[09:12] <th0mz> ok found.
[10:03] <jamespage> xnox, the issue you are seeing with duplicate login forms in the dashboard - is that for 12.04/essex or 12.10/folsom
[10:03] <jamespage> ?
[10:03] <jamespage> openstack dashboard that is
[10:05] <xnox> jamespage: the one on canonistack =)
[10:06] <jamespage> xnox, right-oh - essex/12.04 then
[10:08] <eagles0513875_> !openstack
[10:10] <Daviey> xnox / jamespage: when switching to a different region?
[10:10] <jamespage> Daviey, yeah
[10:10] <xnox> Daviey: yes.
[10:11] <Daviey> yeah, i'm getting that aswell.
[10:11] <xnox> Daviey: i filed a bug on launchpad. no screenshots, but you can access it yourself =) ah...
[10:11] <jamespage> Daviey, can you see instances running in the second region?
[10:12] <jamespage> Daviey, bug 1043437 for reference
[10:14] <jamespage> xnox, Daviey: dupe of bug 1033934
[10:32] <Daviey> jamespage: have you fixed it yet?
[10:33] <jamespage> Daviey, hey - I'm just the triage monkey for today! :-)
[10:37] <Daviey> jamespage: Oh well :)
[10:38] <cefege123> how can I configure my vps and namecheap domain, so it works on the internet ( I have 5 domains, and 5 websites, 1 vps)
[10:41] <jamespage> bah - I really hate that bacula/mysql-server all-in-one ordering issue
[10:41] <jamespage> it bites upgrades as well as fresh installs...
[11:24] <jamespage> anyone know what the default network bonding mode is off the top of their heads?
[11:28] <soren> jamespage: none?
[11:28] <jamespage> soren, probably - I missed the "bond-mode 802.3ad" in the provided configuration
[11:28] <jamespage> oops
[11:30] <soren> I mean.. If you don't configure an interface for bonding, it won't have a bonding network mode.
[11:30] <soren> If you do configure it for bonding (i.e. enslave it under a bond device), the default mode is 0 (balance-rr).
[11:45] <patdk-lap> hmm, default bond mode of rr is kind of evil
[11:45] <thierry__> hi everyone ,i'm working on a ubuntu-server image on my pandaboard, i just found out that usb keys are not mounted automatically, and fstab is not updated since the distro is minimal , i was wondering if there is a package that allows solving this problem?
[13:25] <cr3> Daviey: thanks for fix bug #1042906 so quickly!
[13:36] <Daviey> cr3: it was an accident.. i put in a "sleep 7d ; dput *.changes" ... but i mistyped d and put m :(
[13:36] <Daviey> cr3: we have a reputation to keep up.
[13:36] <streulma> hello
[13:36] <Daviey> hello hello, i don't know wy you say hello, say good.
[13:37] <streulma> can I install Ubuntu Server with a proxy server ?
[13:37] <Daviey> You say goodbye and I say hello Hello hello.
[13:37] <Daviey> streulma: Have you tried?
[13:37] <streulma> yes
[13:37] <streulma> but not with the standard installer
[13:38] <Daviey> what installer did you use?
[13:38] <streulma> the standaard ubuntu server installer 12.04
[13:39] <streulma> but
[13:39] <streulma> with setting Expert mode it is possible
[13:40] <streulma> but my install failes when it will install the server
[13:45] <cr3> roaksoax: hi there, any progress on getting the quantal server image to netinstall?
[13:45] <cr3> roaksoax: are you also at the point where the system installs but boots into memtest86? :)
[13:45] <Daviey> cr3: so, i used mini.iso.. with a preseed.. and the kernel installed as expected
[13:46] <cr3> Daviey: mini.iso also has a filesystem.squashfs? does it have a netboot initrd.gz separate from the cdrom install one?
[13:46] <Daviey> cr3: No, i added to the preseed to use a filesystem.squashfs
[13:47] <Daviey> cr3: it's basically the same thing.. miminal image, 20-30MB, and pulls down everything it needs from the interwebs
[13:48] <roaksoax> cr3 not yet will work on it later today
[13:48] <cr3> Daviey: ah, this thing: live-installer/net-image. that's really good to know, where can I find this mini.iso?
[13:48] <cr3> Daviey: could I have a look at your pxelinux.cfg and preseed?
[13:49] <cr3> roaksoax: looks like Daviey did all the progress, curse him and his timezone!
[13:50] <Daviey> cr3: I repacked with, http://pb.daviey.com/pVfb/
[13:50] <roaksoax> Daviey could you pastebin your preseed?
[13:51] <Daviey> http://pb.daviey.com/OLbz/
[13:52] <cr3> Daviey: wait, what? modules=live-installer, I wonder if that was my problem all along :(
[13:52] <Daviey> cr3: the mini.iso doesn't include it by default.
[13:53] <hallyn> utlemming: are you interested in fixing bug 1043582 ?
[14:24] <hex__> hi to all
[14:29] <cr3> roaksoax: when you install the quantal server image, you use initrd.gz, linux and pxelinux.0 from this directory in the image, right? install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/
[14:30] <roaksoax> cr3 yes and now but cobbler imoorts that and uses it
[14:31] <hex__> Aug 30 16:28:25 hex-SATELLITE-C660 kernel: [68029.901192] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=b8:70:f4:5f:04:10:00:e0:4c:eb:a8:e1:08:00 SRC=177.9.119.106 DST=10.10.10.249 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=107 ID=23340 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=60913 DPT=47248 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK URGP=0
[14:31] <hex__> this is what I get on ufw
[14:31] <hex__> can anyone help
[14:31] <hex__> ??
[14:34] <cr3> roaksoax: do you happen to know if /boot/vmlinux-* is supposed to be installed come from the filesystem.squashfs or from linux-image-*-generic package in the pool?
[14:35] <cr3> s/installed come from/installed from/ :)
[14:35] <roaksoax> cr3 the linux image should  copied over to the filesystem by live-installer
[14:36]  * roaksoax bbl
[14:47] <hallyn> stgraber: you have fixes queued up for SRU, but do you have any for quantal?  If not i'll push fix for bug 1043582
[15:14] <stgraber> hallyn: I don't have anything queued for quantal. I'd like to drop the lxc-wait from debian/local, but the upstream lxc-wait is kinda broken upstream (not actually doing any waiting) so don't do that until it's fixed upstream ;)
[15:16] <hallyn> stgraber: ubuntu:lxc updated.  I"ll test and push in a bit
[15:18] <hallyn> stgraber: two of those should be SRUd to precise
[15:18] <stgraber> hallyn: when you have a sec, can you look at that lxc-wait bug, my current guess is that I messed up the merge of lxc_wait
[15:19] <hallyn> stgraber: oh, ok.  will do
[15:21] <cr3> Daviey: odd, I installed the contents of daily/current/quantal-server-amd64.iso over the network using your pxelinux.cfg and preseed, but I still get the same outcome: no kernel installed so boots into memtest86
[15:22] <cr3> Daviey: where can I download this mino.iso of yours?
[15:22] <cr3> mini.iso even, mino is probably for fish
[15:24] <hallyn> utlemming: (in case you read yoru backlog - pls ignore my previous comment about userdata;  i've taken the bug)
[15:26] <utlemming> hallyn: okay....the first comment was before I got in. but yes, I'm more than happy to take that bug if you're not attached. I need bugs for fixing.
[15:30] <Daviey> cr3: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[15:40] <cr3> roaksoax: I just had a look at the mini.iso that Daviey seemed to have tested, probably the one from archive, and I really don't see how that could work more than the server image. have you tried both the server iso and the mini one?
[15:41] <hallyn> cr3: you mean the mini iso at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/${release}/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ?
[15:42] <hallyn> i use those freuqently to install generic images, and bootstrap a desktop (apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[15:42] <hallyn> have had no problems, but it's been a few weeks
[15:42] <hallyn> but maybe that's not what you're talking about :)
[15:43] <cr3> hallyn: I just discovered it, seems neat! the problem I'm referring to is netinstalling recent quantal server images because of the filesystem.squashfs that was introduced. it looks like my system boots into memtest86 because there's no kernel under /boot/vmlinuz-*
[15:46] <hallyn> ah i see
[15:46] <hallyn> so initramfs on the image needs a squashfs moudle perhaps?
[15:51] <smoser> cr3, you're reporting that the server netboot.iso is hosed?
[15:52] <smoser> thats bad.
[15:52] <hallyn> stgraber: tests pass, pushing to quantal
[15:53] <hallyn> smoser: wasn't something about squashfs and server iamge installs discussed in team mtg a few weeks ago?
[15:55] <cr3> smoser: I don't know what's the problem yet, I just hear that roaksoax is experiencing something similar but Daviey isn't
[15:57] <hallyn> utlemming: well hm.  my proposed fix doesn't seem to be fixing it
[15:58] <hallyn> d'oh, wrong package being tested.  nm
[15:58] <cr3> hallyn: I'm not sure whether the problem is with the initramfs on the image, because the installation seems to complete just fine. I would imagine that there would be a failure mounting the filesystem.squashfs that would interrupt the installation if it were a problem with the missing squashfs module
[15:58] <hallyn> true
[16:00] <cr3> hallyn: emphasis on "seems", of course, because the installation is obviously not fine if it reboots into memtest86 by lack of any installed kernels :)
[16:03] <hallyn> cr3: can you see update-grub running during install?  no errors?
[16:08] <cr3> hallyn: yeah, I even ran it myself during the late_command, and it runs just fine. the problem is that there's no /target/boot/vmlinuz-* file, so update-grub does the right thing and only adds memtest86 to its options
[16:08] <cr3> hallyn: however, I also ran chroot /target dpkg -l 'linux-image-*' at the same moment and the linux-image-*-generic package was installed (ii in the output of dpkg)
[16:09] <hallyn> jinkeys
[16:10] <hallyn> smoser: ^ whose domain would this be, cjwatson?
[16:10] <cr3> hallyn: I'm guessing, and I could be very wrong, that the vmlinuz-* file should be copied from the filesystem.squashfs file but it isn't. I'm also guessing that the dpkg database is also copied from the filesystem.squashfs which is why it's showing that the package is installed even though it's not
[16:10] <hallyn> cr3: can you paste the precise url for the iso you are using?
[16:11] <cr3> hallyn: I'm rsync'ing from rsync://rsync.cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/ubuntu-server/daily/current/quantal-server-amd64.iso, and the .disk/info says: Ubuntu-Server 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Alpha amd64 (20120830)
[16:15] <Daviey> cr3: Can you clarify your exact test.. I am confused.. you are using the large iso, but also preseeding?
[16:16] <Daviey> cr3: If you are preseeding, why are you using a remote squashfs?
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> (repost) is there a way to easily find the name of the source package of a given installer package within apt-cache, without me going to packages.u.c to find the source package?
[16:18] <cr3> Daviey: I'm just using the large iso to get a few files from: 1. the initrd.gz, which is the same as on the mini.iso; 2. the linux, also the same; 3. pxelinux.0, which is not on the mini.iso; 4. and the packages that I make available by http
[16:18] <cr3> Daviey: I'm preseeding with the same preseed as you provided, where I only added a like for my workaround: d-i preseed/early_command string mkdir /tmp/live-installer
[16:19] <hallyn> cr3: but to be clear, your installed rootfs has no vmlinuz in /boot right?
[16:20] <hallyn> cr3: bc otherwise i'd assume you're missing one of the files pxelinx needs (i've had trouble with that before)
[16:20] <cr3> hallyn: right, I even checked from grub and no vmlinuz in /boot
[16:21] <hallyn> stgraber: yeah, upsream lxc-wait doesn't have that problem.  i'll dive into the code now :)
[16:21] <Daviey> cr3: i'm doing a respin right now.. which should remove the need for the early_command
[16:21] <cr3> Daviey: for completeness, this is my preseed: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1176188/
[16:22] <cr3> Daviey: thanks, but I doubt this is causing the problem with the missing vmlinuz under /boot. I'm really surprised it works for you, do you have a syslog from the installation that I can try to compare with mine?
[16:23] <cr3> Daviey: since I'm also using the same pxelinux.cfg as you, the debug level should make it possible to more or less diff side by side
[16:23] <cr3> ... after removing the timestamps, of course
[16:24] <Daviey> cr3: i did have one..
[16:24] <Daviey> i can make another
[16:25] <cr3> Daviey: cheers, I'm making another one too so I'm not quite ready yet either. can you email me the file when it's ready, that'd be really appreciated
[16:27] <Daviey> cr3: no, i'm not going to mail you an iso. :)
[16:27] <SpamapS> Daviey: don't judge me (re help2man)
[16:28] <hallyn> stgraber: phew :)  just needed to initialize my_args.timeout to -1.
[16:29] <hallyn> feh
[16:29] <rbasak> TheLordOfTime: by installer package, do you mean udeb or something else? Your system's apt-cache won't have the udeb package list I don't think. (or will it?)
[16:29] <cr3> Daviey: the installation syslog!
[16:29] <hallyn> i just deleted bzr/lxc.  but that's the shared repo holding all my various lxc trees.
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak:  i mean by the binary .deb that is built from the source
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> for example:
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> the 'nginx' source package is the source package that produces nginx-full
[16:29] <rbasak> OK
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> if i didn't know that, is there a way outside of going to packages.u.c to find nginx-full's "source" package
[16:30] <rbasak> So "Source" field of "apt-cache show" will give you that
[16:30] <Daviey> cr3: I'll pastebin that.
[16:31] <hallyn> stgraber: i'll stage the fix for upstream lxc in ubuntu:lxc.  If you want to drop debian/local/lxc-wait, i'm good with that
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak:  and if a package doesn't have a Source: field?
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> then should i assume its a metapackage?
[16:31] <rbasak> I'm not sure, but I've always assumed that without a Source: field the source has the same name
[16:32] <rbasak> eg. the hello package doesn't have a Source: field
[16:32] <rbasak> I haven't found a counterexample but I don't know that it is defined this way either
[16:33] <rbasak> People in #ubuntu-devel may know more.
[16:33] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak:  i just needed to know if it'd show in apt-cache
[16:33] <hallyn> stgraber: pushed.  (let me know if you want me to just drop our lxc-wait and push;  else i'l lleave it to you)
[16:33] <cr3> Daviey: is that why you have your own pastebin, so that you can upload files that you want to pastebin instead of actually copying and pasting which might be problematic for over 10K lines?
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> because i'm writing a utility script for me to generate a link to the security team's CVE trackers for source packages, i'm going to tweak that script to grep through the actuasl package's apt-cache info and find the "Source: " field, if the package itself (when tested in the URL search) isnt a source (it'll 404 if that's the case)
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak:  i wasnt sure where to ask, but i know apt-cache is CLI, so... :P
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak:  thanks though :)
[16:35] <Daviey> cr3: I pastebin'd /dev/random before :)
[16:35] <cr3> Daviey: I should introduce you to someone who listened to /dev/random
[16:38] <Daviey> cr3: well, it
[16:38] <Daviey> cr3: well, it's not finished.. but i think there is enough for you there.. http://pb.daviey.com/1HTR/
[16:41] <cr3> Daviey: thanks! by the way, I noticed a step near the end called something like "remove-live-packages" that sounded suspicious, so I would like the whole thing when you got it
[16:42] <rbasak> TheLordOfTime: you could use grep-dctrl against http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/{main,universe,...}/source/Sources.gz/bz2 and look for a Binary entry that matches the pacakge you're looking for
[16:42] <rbasak> That would be cleaner I think - rather than relying on your system's apt cache
[16:42] <rbasak> There may be a library that already does this that I'm not aware of though
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak:  true, but this is a Bash script, trying not to have to delve into actual programming :P
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> trying to make it very simplistic
[16:42] <Daviey> cr3: it is odd that it pulls the kernel down twice.  I suspect it installs the one shipped, then does a dist-upgrade
[16:43] <TheLordOfTime> but if i need to redo it with some other program, i can do so, it'll just take longer :P
[16:43] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  FINALLY YOU APPEAR
[16:43] <TheLordOfTime> you've been disappeared for a WHILE
[16:43] <cr3> Daviey: where do you see it being pulled down? searching your pastebin for linux-image doesn't return anything :(
[16:43] <hggdh> hi TheLordOfTime, I am on holiday :-)
[16:44] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  ah.  so... not a good time to ask you to check an email string and give your opinions (for bugsquad stuff)
[16:44] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:44] <Daviey> cr3: updated, http://pb.daviey.com/Z608/
[16:44] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: well, I am actually not here, but I might be able to look at an email sent to me ;-)
[16:44] <cr3> Daviey: sweet! I haven't noticed that in some of my syslogs but I'll have another look at my other syslog once I can get at it, shouldn't be too long now
[16:45] <Daviey> i'm using a us mirror for some daft reason
[16:45] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  heh.  i sent it to the bugsquad mailing list, its just finalizing that whole core vs. noncore stuff i brought up a couple of months ago.  just getting opinions on wording it for the footnotes on the Importance docs, then adding that, and that's the end of it :)
[16:46] <hggdh> heh
[16:46] <hggdh> will look at it, if I have not to get to a party somewhere and drink a bit more of beers
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:46] <cr3> Daviey: us > uk, of course
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  have a beer on me :P
[16:46] <hggdh> will do
[16:47] <cr3> even Python thinks so: "us" > "uk" == True
[16:49] <Daviey> cr3: I disgaree, http://pb.daviey.com/gaVw/
[16:58] <cr3> Daviey: "win" should be in caps to emphasise how awesome you are, then I'd agree with your code
[16:59] <Daviey> cr3: ok
[17:04] <cr3> Daviey: I did some side by side diff of our syslog and I wonder if you would have the same problem as me if your kernel was not updated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176273/
[17:05] <cr3> bbl
[17:06] <cr3> Daviey: oh, one more thing, you might like to make sure you're using the latest filesystem.squashfs to prevent the upgrade. mine is from today's image, md5sum: 0027b200eb2c3c24218d252bcdad8345
[17:11] <Daviey> cr3: mine was from today
[17:11] <Daviey> df423b2e84af20365dc123645b1b4deb  filesystem.squashfs
[17:12] <Daviey> cr3: a newer iso has just been published btw http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20120830.2/
[17:27] <roaksoax> cr3: so what i did, IIRC was only to download the filesystem.squashfs and place it under /caspter, and the live-installer took care of everything
[17:38] <Daviey> roaksoax: you shouldn't need to do that..
[17:38] <roaksoax> Daviey: right, so I'm pressuming that cjwatson added support to live-installer to use the squashfs image from /tmp
[17:39] <Daviey> roaksoax: no, wget's it
[17:39] <Daviey> roaksoax: di live-installer/net-imagestring http://10.10.0.33/~dave/filesystem.squashfs
[17:40] <roaksoax> Daviey: yeah I have that, but my point being is that it stores it under /tmp/filesystem.squashfs
[17:40] <Daviey> roaksoax: live-installer respects /install and /casper, but also supports net-image preseed
[17:41] <Daviey> roaksoax: well the fact it is in /tmp is irrelevant
[17:42] <roaksoax> Daviey: right! but I guess i didn't express myself correctly, as what I did was during the product sprint and that';s what I was talking about :)
[17:42] <roaksoax> sorry for the confusionm
[17:46] <Daviey> ahh
[17:46] <Daviey> i understand now :)
[17:48] <sbeattie> adam_g: do your keystone/precise-proposed packages include the fix for LP: #998185 ? (I kind of assume so, since you got the other two token expiry issues incorporated)
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> LP Bug 998185
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> (so you can see the subject ;) )
[18:03] <zul> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1176358/ thats the error i get
[18:07] <smoser> zul, sorry for ignorance
[18:07] <smoser> but what is iscsiadm doing here?
[18:07] <zul> smoser: its doing the libvirt attach-device call basically
[18:08] <smoser> what does that have to do with the instance?
[18:08] <smoser> its just setting up device on the host that is connected to the scsi target?
[18:09] <zul> smoser: i think so....im still trying to figure stuff out as well
[18:10] <zul> smoser: its blowing my mind man :)
[18:11] <zul> smoser: here is a bit more info in the traceback http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1176374/
[18:25] <dassouki> is tehre a way to list the 10 largest folders in total size in the system
[18:28] <cr3> roaksoax: first, I think you meant that you placed the filesystem.squashfs under /install rather than /casper. second, are you saying that netinstalling the current quantal server image now works for you?
[18:29] <roaksoax> cr3: i meant when I first did it, i put it in /caspter IIRC
[18:30] <roaksoax> cr3: now, we should only need to specify the URL for it
[18:30] <roaksoax> cr3: and that should be it
[18:37] <cr3> roaksoax: ok, I'm glad to hear that works for you. I'll keep troubleshooting my side on the assumption that my configuration is wrong
[18:40] <noslin005> hi, people , someone know a good site that talk about mounting a server hardware
[18:42] <patdk-wk> heh?
[18:42] <patdk-wk> normally follow the instructions that came with the mounting hardware
[18:43] <Troy^> hello when setting up a raid 1 with ide drives, do they both have to be on the same channel for instance on the same primary chain or can one be on each primary and secondary what will perform best?
[18:46] <patdk-wk> Troy^, makes 0 difference at all
[18:46] <patdk-wk> so make them primary on their own channels, if you can
[18:47] <Troy^> hmm so no diff even if i put them prim and secondary on the first channel? it would make for better airflow? unless you think i would get better performance
[18:50] <drag0nius> is there something like webadmin for Squid?
[18:50] <drag0nius> with gui?
[18:52] <RoyK> !webmin
[18:52] <RoyK> drag0nius: squid is rather easy to configure if you read the manual and the config file
[18:53] <drag0nius> the config file has couple thousand lines ;/
[18:53] <RoyK> yep
[18:54] <patdk-wk> hmm, I have many config files that are only 20lines, but end up at a few thousand when I'm done configuring it
[18:54] <patdk-wk> like, apache :)
[18:54] <drag0nius> i dont need that much for now at least ;d
[18:55] <RoyK> drag0nius: just ask what you want to do
[18:55] <RoyK> !ask
[18:55] <drag0nius> i've tomcat/glassfish/apache2 running on server
[18:56] <drag0nius> wanna make access to them with urls not ports
[18:56] <drag0nius> i've domain already
[18:58] <drag0nius> right now using dns redirect, but its not sufficient
[18:59] <drag0nius> like i want drag0nius.pl/apps/ direct to drag0nius.pl:8080
[18:59] <drag0nius> without changing url base
[19:03] <drag0nius> probably later would get to manually configuring, but need something quick now
[19:06] <drag0nius> hmm
[19:06] <drag0nius> found artica
[19:06] <drag0nius> looks good
[19:11] <cr3> Daviey: I got it to work... by using the old filesystem.squashfs from 20120829 which resulted in upgrading the same 14 packages as you, including the linux-image-*-generic package.
[19:12] <cr3> Daviey: I'm still of the opinion that using the latest filesystem.squashfs which doesn't upgrade the linux-image-*-generic package will result in a broken installation.
[19:13] <cr3> Daviey: and, I would suggest that someone confirm this because I don't think QA tests network installs yet
[19:15] <Daviey> cr3: Ah, balls.. I am testing yesterdays iso
[19:16] <cr3> Daviey: no worries, as long as we're now comparing oranges and oranges, I'm reassured to keep plowing ahead. will keep you posted
[19:21] <Daviey> cr3: so, the other thing that differs.. mini.iso is created from debian-installer uploads, and only then.
[19:23] <Daviey> cr3: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Quantal/view/ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/job/quantal-server-amd64_default/141/console .. latest iso .*30.2 seems to be using life-installer ok
[19:25] <cr3> Daviey: cdrom install != network install != usb install
[19:27] <cr3> Daviey: you're welcome to comparing other fruits to a network install of the current image, that doesn't fix the current image unfortunately :(
[19:28] <cr3> Daviey: what files other than initrd.gz and vmlinuz are used from the mini.iso for a network install using MaaS?
[19:34] <Daviey> cr3: no shit :)
[19:36] <cr3> Daviey: I found the problem that I'll be documenting in a bug shortly, it's all in: live-installer/usr/lib/live-installer.d/ubuntu-kernel
[19:37] <Daviey> cr3: debian-installer, which produces the network installer, was uploaded 20 hours ago
[19:37] <cr3> Daviey: in short, the filesystem.squashfs does not contain /boot/vmlinuz-* as can be seen from mounting it. the kernel is actually copied from the cdrom which doesn't freaking exist in a network install
[19:37] <Daviey> cr3: well, this was actually by design.
[19:38] <cr3> Daviey: if it seems to have worked in a network install, it's only a fluke that you've had a more recent kernel in the archive otherwise it cannot work
[19:38] <cr3> Daviey: so, by design, how should the network install get its kernel under /boot?
[19:39] <Daviey> cr3: good question.
[19:39] <Daviey> cr3: wing and a prayer ?
[19:39] <cr3> Daviey: it's not important to know the design to report a bug though, so I'll continue gathering the necessary information for a good bug report. I'd rather leave the design to the experts :)
[19:40] <Daviey> cr3: Colin is not around this week. He'd probably be the best person to take this, if not.. roaksoax or myself will.
[19:40] <cr3> Daviey: I'll try to find a way to workaround that problem too so that certification can continue to test server images, but at least I'm confident about the problem now. I hope this will be useful for your team as well
[20:10] <Troy^> i didn't choose degraded array for my raid 1 setup what is the downfall?
[20:20] <cr3> Daviey, roaksoax: I reported bug #1044049 describing the problem installing the latest quantal server image over the network, I hope this will help make maas even better!
[20:21] <Troy^> omg on the package install selection i hit enter trying to select first package and it goes auto to continue not selecting the package... spacebar is to select packages so now i have server installing with no packages lol
[20:25] <Daviey> cr3: no doubt it will, thanks for your detailed digging
[20:26] <cr3> Daviey: I'll have a workaround soon, so you can either use sleep 7d or wait for cjwatson, I won't be blocked on this
[20:27] <Daviey> cr3: well, i'm worried that i set unreasonably fast turnaround expectations.. so this one might need to be a sleep 14d.
[20:29] <cr3> Daviey: as long as it makes it before the quantal release, I'll be happy for the sake of MaaS
[20:36] <Daviey> cr3: super.
[20:57] <Troy^> does openssh server auto start on boot?
[21:04] <wedgie> by default, yes
[21:16] <fij0> hello
[21:17] <fij0> there is a way to put ascii characters in console witout use unicode wit the combination of ctrl + shift + u ?
[21:38] <epifanio> Hi All
[21:38] <epifanio> I'm running a virtual server on a machine of my institute, uname -a give me :  Linux ecoop.aquarius.tw.rpi.edu 2.6.32-28-vserver #55~ppa1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 4 21:25:09 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:39] <epifanio> i have sudo rights on this machine .. and i was trying to install some packages unsing apt-get ... unfortunatly it gave me "unmet dependencies" , so i tryied to do an :   apt-get updarte & apt-get upgrade
[21:40] <epifanio> but now .. the apt-get instruction is stuck on the cron packages ... the ssh shell prompt show me : http://paste.debian.net/186732/
[21:40] <epifanio> is in this state that is half hour .. i'm worried
[21:41] <epifanio> have you any clue on what's going wrong ? or how to try to debug the problem ?
[21:47] <epifanio> to stop the process .. i opened an other ssh connection and i run :  sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[21:47] <epifanio> then i used : dpkg --configure -a
[21:48] <epifanio> the log in the shell is :  http://paste.debian.net/186736/
[21:48] <epifanio> thanks for any help!
[21:50] <epifanio> 'm trying again with : sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[21:54] <epifanio> after a long list of unpacking / preparing replacement .. it is still stuck on cron : http://paste.debian.net/186737/
[21:54] <epifanio> :'(
[22:38] <ariel__> i wanna ask a question how do people find your server online
[22:39] <epifanio> ?
[22:39] <SpamapS> ariel__: are you asking how you might advertise the existence of your server that you build on Ubuntu?
[23:00] <Troy^> question openssh only seems to run on a linux box reboot when i log in to a user. how do i get the box to auto login?
[23:18] <Troy^> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config file do i need to uncomment "#" the line with port 22 if i want to change it to Port 2277 for example?
[23:18] <Troy^> and sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart does not work i even tried service ssh restart
[23:18] <Troy^> :S
[23:18] <Troy^> lol