[01:23] <blkperl> grr when is unity going to support 4 monitors...
[01:32] <tgm4883> blkperl, it doesn't already?
[01:32] <tgm4883> I thought I read somewhere it did
[01:33] <blkperl> well it might, but when I log in with four monitors it sits at a black screen
[01:33] <blkperl> and .xsession fills with angry compiz erros
[01:44] <tgm4883> lol
[01:45] <tgm4883> when you install google chrome in 12.10, it tells you the package is of bad quality
[02:58] <blkperl> lol
[03:40] <c_smith> rofl
[14:08] <tgm4883> zsyncing an ISO at 15000 kBps, nice
[17:43] <bkerensa> tgm4883: you see the ZDnet article about Goobuntu?
[17:43] <bkerensa> "Light Years Ahead of Fedora and OpenSuse"
[17:47] <c_smith> hehe....
[17:47] <blkperl> plymouth-- gives no information about what its doing.....
[17:57] <c_smith> plymouyh-- does exactly what it's supposed to, press esc to see what is being done in the background.
[18:02] <blkperl> impatient sysadmin believes plymouth is hung and powercycles box. me--
[18:05] <c_smith> well, the sysadmin could simply press esc to see what is going on.
[18:06] <c_smith> dunno if Plymouth could safely be removed.
[18:09] <nathwill> probably best to just remove "quiet" from the boot param
[18:10] <bkerensa> =0
[18:17] <c_smith> yep
[18:18] <c_smith> still, not quite sure how it works, but my new laptop went to Eugene to portland last night.
[18:18] <c_smith> UPS has some weird routes.
[18:21] <nathwill> what'd you end up getting c_smith?
[18:24] <c_smith> let me get you a link.
[18:25] <c_smith> this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246323&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
[18:25] <c_smith> and let me know if the link doesn't work.
[18:25] <nathwill> worked
[18:26] <c_smith> good.
[18:26] <nathwill> yay lenovo
[18:26] <c_smith> yep.
[18:26] <c_smith> took your advice into consideration when picking that.
[18:26] <c_smith> I believe it was you who gave the advice.
[18:27] <nathwill> i like lenovo, so it's likely
[18:27] <bkerensa> sorry about your luck c_smith ... Lenovo has a nice laptop on frys for $280
[18:27] <bkerensa> :)
[18:27] <c_smith> yeah, true.
[18:27] <nathwill> i don't know about ideapad series
[18:27] <c_smith> bkerensa, thanks for bursting my bubble. >.>
[18:27] <nathwill> lol
[18:28] <c_smith> anyway, back to my music.
[18:29] <c_smith> oh, one thing: has a muxless gpu pair, which I've read isn't supported by X.org currently, but I also heard there's a simple fix to making it use one GPU instead of the other in this case.
[18:30] <c_smith> in this laptop's case, that solution would be installing the FGLRX driver.
[18:30] <bkerensa> c_smith: Oh price dropped to $247
[18:30] <bkerensa> http://www.frys.com/product/7250293
[18:30] <bkerensa> :D
[18:30] <c_smith> shoot.
[18:31] <c_smith> not quite the specs I wanted and found with the laptop I bought, though.
[18:32] <c_smith> one thing I looked for that the laptop I bought has is a dedicated GPU (even though it's paired with an integrated)
[18:33] <nathwill> oh man, google news cracks me up
[18:34] <c_smith> care to send me a link?
[18:34] <nathwill> news.google.com vs news.yahoo.com :P
[18:35] <c_smith> ah.
[18:35] <nathwill> but i'm biased ;)
[18:35] <c_smith> lol
[18:37] <nathwill> it's kind of cool that google exposes the settings a bit
[18:42] <tgm4883> yay for asbestos abatement!
[18:49] <nathwill> tgm4883: always a good thing...
[18:50] <tgm4883> yes it is, although better to just not have abestos
[18:59] <bkerensa> tgm4883: you have asbestos at home? woah what a treat
[19:00] <tgm4883> bkerensa, no, we have abestos in the datacentre
[19:18] <bkerensa> tgm4883: even worse ;p
[19:23] <c_smith> and what even worse is on your clothes!
[19:35] <nathwill> our whole house was shingled in it
[19:35] <nathwill> and we had to get rid of it :(
[19:35] <nathwill> it was not a fun summer
[19:35] <sbeattie> asbestos isn't much of a problem if it isn't disintegrating. The problem is when dust from it gets airborn and can be breathed in.
[19:36]  * nathwill nods
[19:36]  * sbeattie 's old house used to have asbestos floor tiles in its basement
[19:36] <nathwill> hooks of doom
[20:17] <bkerensa> My elementary school and middle school had asbestos and lead paint
[20:38] <c_smith> now I flippin' hate UPS.
[20:39] <nathwill> lol
[20:39] <nathwill> just wait until they throw it on your roof
[20:39] <c_smith> freaking screwed me over twice already.
[20:39] <c_smith> yeah, at that point I'm gonna deck someone.
[20:40] <c_smith> fed up with them already.
[20:44] <bkerensa> c_smith: why mad at UPS?
[20:45] <bkerensa> I have to see them everyday
[20:45] <bkerensa> 5 packages this week
[20:45] <bkerensa> =/
[20:45] <nathwill> bkerensa: you buddies with the driver yet?
[20:46] <bkerensa> nathwill: so not really... I actually think one of the two drivers who service my area is a douche
[20:46] <bkerensa> :)
[20:46] <bkerensa> he done some stealthy door tagging and I dont much like that
[20:46] <nathwill> hrm
[20:47] <bkerensa> stealth door tagging = When you have a door tag pre-written out... go and slap it on someones door and dont knock and attempt to deliver the package likely because you had a busy day and want to get home on time
[20:48] <c_smith> bkerensa, they A. changed the date of delivery to one that I may not be able to pick it up at, and B. have a policy where I can't change where it's delivered to before they first attempt to deliver it.
[20:48] <bkerensa> but now I have a VueZone setup on my carport so I can see them before they get to my front door
[20:48] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:48] <c_smith> you're lucky you CAN install that in your house. >.>
[20:48] <bkerensa> c_smith: Was it UPS Ground?
[20:48] <c_smith> yep, 3 day. which now is more than that.
[20:49] <bkerensa> Yeah
[20:49] <bkerensa> UPS Ground has a Zero Service Level Guarantee
[20:49] <c_smith> which is freaking ridiculous to me,
[20:49] <bkerensa> not really.... UPS and FedEx legally do not have to even deliver to you
[20:49] <bkerensa> their contract says they can deliver to anyone on your street
[20:50] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:50] <c_smith> if you look at it that way, yeah.
[20:50] <tgm4883> bkerensa, that seems a bit wrong
[20:50] <bkerensa> tgm4883:
[20:50] <bkerensa> http://consumerist.com/2012/08/fedex-driver-figures-out-im-home-during-the-day-tries-to-turn-me-into-human-drop-box.html
[20:50] <c_smith> but I don't see how it would cost anything to let the person receiving the package change the drop off to a UPS store.
[20:50] <bkerensa> not really its... in their shipping terms
[20:50] <bkerensa> wrong in the sense that it should not work that way? yes
[20:55] <bkerensa> Here we go
[20:55] <bkerensa> http://consumerist.com/2012/01/fedex-seems-to-think-any-front-door-will-do-for-package-delivery.html
[20:56] <bkerensa> "The FedEx customer service agent dutifully informed me that leaving the doorway of the correct house (with a name labeled mailbox) to walk over and deliver to the house next door instead was "within the terms of the service I had paid for," and let me know that in the future if I wanted things delivered to the right address, I should pay for signature receipt service."
[21:04] <bkerensa> c_smith: you could tweet UPS... they are usually good about fixing things
[21:10] <c_smith> not that I'm in a calm enough state of mind to not chew them out instead of asking for help. >.>
[23:15] <tgm4883> so the state department apparently decided to keep the only copy of my birth certificate when they issued my passport :(
[23:40] <bkerensa> tgm4883: lol