/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/31/#kubuntu-devel.txt

shadeslayerScottK: Riddell will get to it later today01:10
ahoneybunshadeslayer: hello02:12
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shadeslayermornin03:52
shadeslayerg03:52
shadeslayerhm, are we sure the stuff in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/ even works?04:22
shadeslayerbecause when I start a guest session, I don't get the settings that are specified by the default plasma init script04:22
shadeslayerI get the default plasma settings04:22
shadeslayerScottK: is there someone who could possibly test build my powerpc modifications? or is more or less : "Upload and see what happens"04:24
ScottKinfinity might if he has time.04:24
shadeslayerok04:24
* micahg takes it that blue systems doesn't have much interest in powerpc as a platform?04:32
shadeslayerheh :P04:40
shadeslayermicahg: I don't think anyone has much interest in powerpc as a platform 04:41
shadeslayerthen again, I could be wrong04:41
shadeslayer( it's all about ARM these days )04:41
jussishadeslayer: Tm_T has a power pc05:33
shadeslayerok05:56
shadeslayerwell I'll ping the relevant people when I have a package for test building :)05:57
shadeslayerit's taking a fair bit of time to even build on armhf05:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: FWIW the firefox-kde patches are the way the are because they are that way in opensuse06:05
apacheloggerforking away from that like the previous firefox-kde did is nothing but mad06:06
apacheloggere.g. instead of dev/null -> kde.js, copy some other file and patch it to become kde.sj06:06
apacheloggercertainly the nicer approach06:06
apacheloggerbut it makes patch importing a flipping nightmare06:07
shadeslayerheh06:09
Mamaroksometimes worht looking at #kubuntu: [03:44] <digitalj> Yay, Kubuntu. Thanks for the best linux distribution I've ever used.07:37
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/31/plasma-desktopZf7210.png07:45
apacheloggercan't have threading but vi-like navigation07:46
apacheloggerwin07:46
apachelogger"package afiestas' first boot bluetooth keyboard app and integrate with live CD"07:54
apacheloggerafiestas: what's that about?07:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: plz2fike FFe's for ktp-common-internal and ktp-debugger if you're free08:13
apacheloggerI'll ned more info than that really08:13
shadeslayerlibktpcommoninternalsprivate3 and ktp-debugger are in binary new08:14
apacheloggerwhat about the rest of ktp?08:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue08:15
shadeslayerdep wait on ktp-common-internal08:15
apacheloggerlet me rephrase08:15
apacheloggerwhy is the rest of ktp not in NEW?08:15
shadeslayerbecause it's not?08:15
shadeslayerlet me rephrase08:15
shadeslayerbecause it produced no new binaries08:15
shadeslayer:)08:16
apacheloggersmartass08:16
apacheloggerwhy was no FFe filed before uploading KTP?08:16
shadeslayerI did08:16
apacheloggerwhy are they in NEW then?08:16
apacheloggerwell08:16
apacheloggernevermind08:16
apacheloggerwhy do we need an FFe if there is an FFe?08:16
shadeslayerI was working under the assumption that KTP had been cleared for FFe08:17
shadeslayerScottK says that we need to file FFe's for new binaries08:17
apacheloggerbinary new != FFe08:17
shadeslayerso best ask him :)08:17
apacheloggereh?08:17
apacheloggerScottK: when there already is a FFe, why do we need another FFe?08:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/30/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t03:2908:18
apacheloggerScottK: clearly you did not tell him that there is a FFe already? :P08:19
apacheloggereeh08:19
apacheloggershadeslayer did not tell ScottK08:20
apacheloggershadeslayer: also where is the existing FFe?08:21
apacheloggershadeslayer: also I thought you asked cj to add ktp to the kubuntu package set?08:21
shadeslayerI did not :(08:21
=== apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support
shadeslayerapachelogger: bug 104222608:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1042226 in meta-kde-telepathy (Ubuntu) "FFe: KDE Telepathy 0.5.0" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104222608:22
apacheloggerScottK: ^08:23
apacheloggerlol, ScottK even approved it :O08:23
shadeslayer:P08:23
apacheloggerhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/113176143/ubuntu-default-settings_12.10.0_source.changes08:23
apacheloggeralways nice to see people realize how awesome our package architecture is :P08:24
shadeslayer:D08:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: kexi crash was already fixed btw :P08:35
apacheloggerpointless effort I say08:35
shadeslayeryay08:35
Tm_Tjussi: indeed I have, but I suspect I have to do this: http://repair4laptop.org/wiki/Mac_iBook_G4_Power_Adapter_DC_Plug_Repair_Howto_Guide08:38
apacheloggerbug 898390 meh08:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898390 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "krandr-tray doesn't restore monitor arrangement on startup" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89839008:39
shadeslayer!find jpeglib.h08:48
ubottuPackage/file jpeglib.h does not exist in quantal08:48
shadeslayerwat08:49
shadeslayer;_;08:49
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1177395/08:50
shadeslayer!find jpeglib.h precise08:50
ubottuFile jpeglib.h found in firefox-dev, kompozer-dev, libgdcm2-dev, libjpeg-turbo8-dev, libjpeg62-dev, libvxl1-dev, lsb-build-desktop3, thunderbird-dev08:50
shadeslayerfun08:50
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Riddellhmm, not feeling well today09:08
Riddellyeah, back to bed for me09:12
apachelogger_shadeslayer: !09:27
shadeslayerwhat09:27
apachelogger_it's the most awesome thing ever09:28
apachelogger_the krandr bug I mentioned earlier ... it fails to restore crap because it is executed too early 09:28
shadeslayerlol09:30
apachelogger_as a matter of fact I see the problem in xrandr09:30
apachelogger_cause it also doesn't warn or error or anything09:30
apachelogger_it just fails to set the primary output09:31
shadeslayerok09:34
debfxshadeslayer: why is this needed: libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 now Breaks/Replaces libktpcommoninternalsprivate109:41
shadeslayerbecause of ABI bump?09:41
debfxthat kind of defeats the purpose of renaming packages according to the soname09:41
shadeslayerdebfx: wait, so, it shouldn't break/replace libktpcommoninternalsprivate1 ?09:42
shadeslayerisn't it wrong to have both libs installed?09:42
debfxusually there is nothing wrong with that09:43
debfxnot sure how it is with ktp09:43
shadeslayerI ... uh ... didn't want both those installed since it could potentially cause issues ...09:43
shadeslayerbest to just remove libktpcommoninternalsprivate109:44
apacheloggeriff ktp has no appropriately versioned inter-dependencies, then it totally makes sense to force all of ktp to be upgraded by breaking the previous lib09:46
apacheloggeri.e. ktp-foo interacts with ktp-bar and has a dep, but ktp-foo linked against libktp1 does not work with ktp-bar linked against libktp309:47
shadeslayer*nod*09:48
apacheloggerso by making libktp3 break libktp1 you either have to stay with libktp1 and foo and bar 1 or you need to go full 309:48
apachelogger(not the nicest of solutions to that problem, but considering the source lineup of ktp it probably is one of the saner choices)09:48
* apachelogger sends get well hugs to Riddell09:50
Peace-apachelogger: do you know why firefox on precise opens files with dolphin ? 09:50
Peace-i mean downloaded files with dolphin 09:51
apacheloggerinstall firefox-gnome-support09:51
apacheloggeralthough downloading through dolphin sounds slightly wrong09:51
Peace-apachelogger: mmm well actually i have choose to open everything with kde-open09:51
apacheloggeroh09:51
Peace-apachelogger: ?? firefox => download => double click => opens dolphin 09:52
apacheloggerah09:52
apacheloggerperhaps the config is not working :P09:52
apacheloggerfirefox likes to not do what the user wants in my experience :P09:52
MamarokRiddell: get well soon!09:53
Peace-apachelogger: i have tried again rekonq :D but it sucks like before 09:53
Peace-it really doens't work properly with google pluys09:53
* Peace- studies kubuntu-meta09:53
apacheloggerchromium is your friend09:53
apacheloggershadeslayer, afiestas: I really wonder why we don't use Xrandr directly for krandr09:54
apachelogger(i.e. link against the extension)09:54
apacheloggerthat's what xrandr does anyway I think09:54
shadeslayeridk, don't ask me, I'm trying to explain what I did in kde-workspace in a commit09:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: lol ^^09:54
shadeslayerand I'm very confused already09:54
shadeslayerdescribing this change in words is hard :P09:55
apachelogger"fix"09:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: fixed in master and 4.9 :D10:01
shadeslayerthanks :)10:01
shadeslayerRiddell: get well soon :)10:02
apacheloggershadeslayer++10:03
apacheloggernow fix xrandr10:04
shadeslayerwith pleasure10:04
* apachelogger is actually not sure if it is the tool that is broken or the extension10:04
shadeslayerjust not right now :P10:04
apacheloggeror perhaps that is by design10:04
apacheloggermarkey: is your screen order also wrong on login?10:05
shadeslayerI'm taking a break for a bit10:05
apacheloggerIIRC you had that issue at some point10:05
shadeslayercya in a hour10:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: I also need to fix this huge leak in kwin10:06
shadeslayerit's leaking mem all over the place, I have to reboot every 2-3 hours10:06
shadeslayeror rather, relogin10:06
shadeslayermakes me thing it's something a loop somewhere10:06
shadeslayer*think10:06
apacheloggermakes me think X is crap :P10:07
shadeslayer:P10:07
shadeslayerhtop says that X is hogging all memory10:07
shadeslayerxrestop says it's kwin10:07
soeeis there some command to install all packages required to compile some app ?10:22
soeeim on fresh 12.04 and want to build  rekonq 1.110:23
Quintasan\o10:43
QuintasanRiddell: Reading policy is not fun.10:43
apacheloggersoee: apt-get build-dep rekonq10:50
apachelogger(note that this is technically only installing the dependencies of the version in the archive)10:50
apacheloggeroften close enough to newer versions though10:51
BluesKajhowdy all10:55
afiestasapachelogger: a wrapper above xrandr well done can save tons of LoC 12:28
soeewhat was the command to switch to lightdm ?12:36
apacheloggerafiestas: it also leaves a lot of opportunities for stuff to fall apart, what with being a runtime dependency and all12:39
afiestasok wait, krandr only uses xrandr directly in one place12:39
afiestasbecause somebody was too lazy to do it right12:39
apacheloggerlol12:40
apacheloggerwhich brings me to the question what kephal was supposed to do again ^^12:40
ScottKshadeslayer: So what's up with the ktp-common-internals FTBFS?12:41
shadeslayerarmel?12:41
shadeslayermissing symbols and the likes, will get to it tonight, going out atm ....12:42
ScottKIsn't it tonight there already?12:42
ScottKshadeslayer: armel/armhf/powerpc.12:43
shadeslayer6.12 PM , night for me is anything after 10 PM :P12:43
shadeslayeryus, missing symbols on all of them12:43
ScottKWe're in beta freeze and our images are somewhat broken due to the skew, so please don't dawdle.12:43
shadeslayerofcourse not, also, please to pass it from binary new, that's what's holding AMD64 and i38612:44
ScottK!ninjas12:52
ubottuNinja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel12:52
ScottK4.9.1 tarballs are up.12:52
ScottKshadeslayer: The kde-telepathy-debugger package description has double spaces at the start of each line.  Please fix that in your upload too.12:58
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soeeany idea why none of the shutdown/logout etc buttons work in menu ?13:51
ScottKOn Quantal?13:53
soee12.0413:56
ScottKDunno.  They work here.14:01
BluesKajkate is segfaulting a lot on quantal qagain 14:01
debfxBluesKaj: since the last qt update?14:02
debfxon amd64?14:02
BluesKajI guess so ...I stay up to date14:03
BluesKajdebfx, ^14:04
debfxBluesKaj: when did it start to crash?14:04
BluesKajyesterday afternoon , EDT14:04
debfxdo you have a backtrace?14:07
BluesKajdebfx, let me check14:10
BluesKajdebfx, can't find much in /var/log/syslog or dmesg or even dmesg in the terminal 14:20
BluesKajusing nano 14:20
debfxa dialog should pop up when kate crashes14:21
BluesKajExecutable: kate PID: 2647 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)14:24
BluesKajinstalling the debug symbols14:25
BluesKajdebfx, the crash handler output :  Application: Kate (kate), signal: Segmentation fault14:33
BluesKajUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".14:33
debfxBluesKaj: could you pastebin the whole thing?14:34
BluesKajthat's the whole output 14:36
BluesKajdebfx,^14:37
debfxhm, strange14:39
BluesKajyeah I installed the debugging packages, but the crash handler still asks if I want to install them ...the crash handler seems buggy too :)14:42
BluesKajdebfx, if I reboot then kate works ok for a few instances , but then segfaults 14:51
BluesKajdebfx,  this is from the konsole ; http://pastebin.com/SaYATbUc14:58
shumskiBluesKaj: why sudo?14:58
BluesKajjust a habit14:58
shumski?14:59
BluesKajok here itis without kdesudo , shumski  ;  http://pastebin.com/NQA8ghAi15:01
debfxthe fontconfig warnings are harmless15:01
shumskiwhat about .xsession-errors?15:02
BluesKajless info , because it calls kate more quickly and segfaults 15:02
shumskitry turnining kdebugdialog on15:03
shumskiand then run kate15:03
BluesKajApplication: Plasma Desktop Shell (plasma-desktop), signal: Aborted15:08
BluesKajUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".15:08
BluesKajthat's what turning on the kdebugdialog did15:09
BluesKajshumski,^15:09
shumski?15:09
shumskiit crased plasma-desktop?15:10
BluesKajyup , all I have is the konversation page , all else is black15:10
BluesKaj'strange indeed15:11
shumskikstart plasma-desktop15:12
shumskifrom krunner15:12
shumskiBluesKaj: are you back from black?15:20
BluesKajsorry i have some town water ppl in my front yard  fooling with shutoff vlave ...that's priority atm15:22
shumskisure :)15:25
BluesKajshumski, nope it segfaults too15:25
shumskiweird; a new user?15:26
shumskimaybe some conf. coruption15:26
BluesKajok , had to ctrl+alt+delete , kstart plasma desktop segfaulted as well , then at login I had to drop to the tty and login , then startx , shumski15:37
shumskiok, have you tried why a clean/new user? 15:39
shumskis/why/with15:39
BluesKajkate opens , but I'm sure if I try twice more it will segfault15:39
BluesKajok 6 times , but no crashes yet15:41
BluesKajwhy would I try with a new user , this a new install , 2 days old15:42
shumskiThos crashes seem really weird, thats why :D15:45
BluesKajwell, it could be the graphics driver , nvidia 304.43 ...there weren't any probs with nouveau 15:46
BluesKajI'll remove the 304 driver , and see what happens 15:48
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QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/11/plasma-desktopgp1838.jpg16:35
Quintasan>mfw people on #ubuntu-pl believe it's Unity16:35
JontheEchidnalol16:36
Quintasanoh wait16:36
Quintasanannother non-beliver jumped the bandwagon16:36
JontheEchidnamfw: http://i.imgur.com/Gnzkh.png16:37
Quintasan:D16:37
Quintasancurses16:43
QuintasanJontheEchidna: apachelogger failed so horribly, it's named plasma-desktopsth.jpg16:43
Quintasanmy mysterious plan got foiled16:44
JontheEchidnalol16:44
JontheEchidnaI did this about 4 years ago: http://jontheechidna.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/kde4gnome2.png16:45
Quintasandefinitely not KDE16:45
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^^ why they created gnome 3 if gnome2 was so awesome?16:48
Quintasandpm: ping16:55
dpmhey Quintasan16:55
Quintasandpm: I'm afraid the whole translation business is currently on hold until I can find someone who is really willing to translate, all the people I found translated a few lines and disappered into thin air T_T16:56
QuintasanPolish translation are dead as hell16:58
Quintasandpm: Can teams on LP have more than one admin?16:58
dpmQuintasan, yes, there can be multiple admins16:59
Quintasandpm: Hmm, that would partially solve the problem then16:59
dpmQuintasan, let's talk next week, I'd be happy to help promoting the Polish translation17:00
Quintasandpm: Thanks, that would be nice. I'll do some scouting anyways17:00
JontheEchidnaSo the good news: I got Qt5's QtBase tarball building after ~an hour17:11
JontheEchidnathe tiring news: I'm still working on getting all the files in to binary packages :P17:11
debfxhave you ported all our 5000 Qt4 patches? :P17:19
shadeslayerthe packet loss on this network, is too damn high17:23
shadeslayerwho the hell manages to royally screw up and get 66% packet loss17:24
JontheEchidnadebfx: :P17:25
JontheEchidnaI plan to create all the necessary binary packages/ symbols files, etc. then we can go through and compare the packages for stuff to add from the Qt4 packaging17:26
shadeslayercan't even ssh into arm boxen17:27
shadeslayerapparently it can do better, 90% loss17:32
JontheEchidnaccache: FATAL: Could not create /var/cache/pbuilder/ccache/5/9/bba4033b9e114ad9ac03708dcd24cd-2932752.o.tmp.stdout.jonathan-laptop.24323 (permission denied?)17:46
JontheEchidnalol?17:46
shadeslayeryeah, just restart the build17:47
shadeslayerhappens sometimes 17:47
JontheEchidnayeah, it's proceeding fine now. just haven't had that ever happen to me17:48
* shadeslayer is very tried17:51
shadeslayer*tired17:51
JontheEchidnaapparently :P17:51
shadeslayerugh, stupid telepathy qt17:51
JontheEchidnaI guess it's almost midnight where you live?17:51
shadeslayer11.30 PM, yeah :)17:52
shadeslayerthe fun bit is that a) The routing of my ISP is completely shot17:53
shadeslayerb) I have a average packet loss of about 50%17:53
BluesKajbummer , how can anything load or transfer17:54
shadeslayerit doesn't17:54
shadeslayerI'm barely connected17:54
shadeslayerssh keeps dropping intermittently17:55
BluesKajoh17:55
shadeslayerpaste.kde.org and sprints.kde.org are inaccessible17:56
BluesKajthey're up and running from my connection17:59
shadeslayeryep, like I said, routing is shot18:00
JontheEchidnalaptop is a balmy 63 degrees compiling Qt18:01
JontheEchidnaI'll put it in front of my fan to cool it down18:01
shadeslayerthis armhf build is going to take it's own sweet time18:03
JontheEchidnahmm, QtDBus didn't build :(18:07
JontheEchidnamust be missing a build-dep18:07
JontheEchidnaQt is installing a bunch of fonts to usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/fonts/ wonder what that's all about18:11
shadeslayeriirc we remove them or sth, please check current packaging18:14
JontheEchidnathey're not on the not-installed list, so I wonder18:17
JontheEchidnathe lib/font directory in the source tarball is present in the Qt 4.8.1 tarball, but absent in the 4.8.2 one, strange18:19
shadeslayerI think they're removed from the source itself before building18:21
JontheEchidnaI wonder what does that18:21
JontheEchidnaah18:22
JontheEchidnarm -rf \18:22
JontheEchidna....18:22
JontheEchidnalib/ \18:22
JontheEchidnain override_dh_auto_clean18:23
shadeslayerrules18:23
shadeslayer*nod*18:23
JontheEchidnaI'll port the auto clean to Qt5, then add further documentation explicitly saying that we're deleting the fonts18:23
shadeslayerthough I don't know the rationale behind it :)18:24
JontheEchidnaI'd assume we don't need the fonts because we distribute our own18:24
shadeslayermaybe18:25
shadeslayercould someone upload this ktp-common-internals : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/ktp-common-internals_0.5.0-0ubuntu2.dsc18:28
shadeslayerminor fixes due to a bit of screwed up indenting by vim18:28
shadeslayeror rather, my vim settings18:29
JontheEchidnasure18:29
shadeslayerplease to make sure the package is sane before uploading  :P18:30
shadeslayer@$##!!#$ .... stupid ISP18:31
JontheEchidnathe debdiff looks sane18:31
shadeslayer:)18:32
JontheEchidnaI'm off to my last class of the week, bbl18:33
shadeslayercya18:33
* ScottK notes the continued lack of a telepathy upload and pokes at shadeslayer .20:57
shadeslayerScottK: telepathy qt is still building on armhf21:29
shadeslayer[ 97%] Building CXX object tests/dbus/CMakeFiles/test-simple-observer.dir/simple-observer.cpp.o21:29
shadeslayerquite slow21:29
ScottKshadeslayer: OK.  Any idea why the latest amd64 livefs build failed when i386 succeeded?21:29
shadeslayerI'll look at the build logs21:30
ScottKapachelogger needs to reinvigorate the ice creaming magic on that box.21:30
shadeslayeryeah :(21:30
apacheloggeroh shoot21:31
apacheloggertrue21:31
apacheloggertomorrow21:31
ScottKI'll have three precise boxes for you to hook together by then.21:32
shadeslayero_o21:34
shadeslayerhttp://kapok.buildd/~buildd/LiveCD/quantal/kubuntu/current/livecd.kubuntu.cloop:21:34
shadeslayer2012-08-31 15:03:33 ERROR 404: Not Found.21:34
shadeslayerI .... don't know21:35
ScottKshadeslayer: That means the livefs build failed.  Look at the livefs log.21:56
ScottKshadeslayer: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/quantal/kubuntu/20120831.1/livecd-20120831.1-amd64.out21:59
shadeslayernothing off the top of my head22:02
shadeslayeryay, tp qt builds for armhf22:02
ScottKshadeslayer: Do you have an amd64 installation you can try the install in?22:04
shadeslayeryeah, doing that right now22:04
ScottKGreat.22:04
shadeslayerScottK: seems to work fine22:08
ScottKOK.22:11
shadeslayerI've uploaded tp-qt to https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly , needs a test build on powerpc22:12
shadeslayerand are any of the armel boxen online?22:13
shadeslayerwould be nice to do a test build on that as well22:13
ScottKIf it's good on armhf, I'd just upload it.22:14
shadeslayeroh ... ok22:14
ScottKJontheEchidna: Can you upload ^^^ so I can be the release team review/accept person?22:19
JontheEchidnaScottK: sure22:30
ScottKThanks.22:31
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: hold off on that a bit :)22:34
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: k. good thing you caught me. I was just signing the package with my key22:34
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: infinity is taking care of it :)22:36
JontheEchidnak22:37

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