[00:06] <Jef91> Anyone know how you make lightdm autologin?
[00:07] <holstein> i would look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon
[00:18] <gld1982ltd> holstein: does that work for you?
[00:25] <holstein> gld1982ltd: dont know... dont use auto login
[00:27] <gld1982ltd> holstein: i am referring to the power button
[00:29] <holstein> gld1982ltd: OH.. i didnt worry about that either.. i just do the shutdown, or sudo halt
[00:30] <holstein> im usually on laptops anyways, and i dont shutdown
[00:30] <holstein> i go into LXDE and openbox expecting to trade speed and performance for features
[00:31] <gld1982ltd> i hear ya.
[05:58] <straddle_> Hi - this is my first time ever using IRC so be gentle! I just installed Lubuntu 12.04 on my old Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop in an effort to make it useful again for simple tasks.
[05:59] <straddle_> I want to be able to use it for email and basic web stuff
[05:59] <straddle_> unfortunately the wifi is not being detected
[06:01] <straddle_> wired lan works fine, and the wifi worked fine in Ubuntu 12.04 but not in Lubuntu 12.04
[06:02] <straddle_> Can anyone help me get it working?
[06:28] <JohnDoe_71Rus> straddle_: pastebin output lspci from terminal
[09:06] <Perry_> hi everyone
[10:16] <alternativeguiap> can anyone recommend me a GRAPHICAL alternative to lxmed that does not require java?
[10:18] <alternativeguiap> anyone?
[14:04] <bLadymoo> Hi
[14:04] <bLadymoo> I have Lxde desktop installed on my ubuntu unity
[14:04] <bLadymoo> VEry happy with Lxde
[14:04] <holstein> bLadymoo: you install lxde in ubuntu?
[14:04] <bLadymoo> yeah
[14:04] <holstein> thats a lot like what lubuntu is
[14:04] <TheLordOfTime> bLadymoo:  you mean you installed LXDE on top of default Ubuntu which comes with GNOME and Unity?
[14:05] <holstein> lubuntu is ubuntu with LXDE
[14:06] <bLadymoo> YEah first I installed Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS wich uses Unity as default. Then I installed LXDE Desktop on it.
[14:06] <holstein> cool... enjoy!
[14:07] <TheLordOfTime> holstein:  i think he kept the gnome packages though
[14:07] <TheLordOfTime> like... all of them...
[14:07] <holstein> sure.. you can "keep" whatever you like.. you can login using unity then LXDE.. like dualbooting :)
[14:07] <TheLordOfTime> speaking to someone who keeps each runtime around
[14:08] <bLadymoo> It boots with blue "lubuntu" logo anymore. not ubuntu.
[14:08] <TheLordOfTime> on this machine, I have the GNOME/Unity runtime, a KDE runtime, XFCE runtime, and Lxde runtime :P
[14:08] <holstein> only reason i would bother removing them is if hard drive space were an issue
[14:08] <TheLordOfTime> but i didnt install all the other cruftware that comes with each desktop :P
[14:09] <bLadymoo> How do I make sure there is nothing that slows down my boot time with lubuntu?
[14:10] <holstein> i just dont reboot that often.. there are startup applications and services
[14:12] <holstein> i would probably read some links like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 until the commands make sense
[14:13] <menethoril> holstein: It would be incredibly difficult to remove all of that by hand.  Wouldn't it be simpler to just backup your /home and reinstall vanilla Lubuntu if you want to keep it?
[14:13] <TheLordOfTime> menethoril:  if necessary, but...
[14:13] <TheLordOfTime> menethoril:  i think the list of what the desktop packages install is kept around somewhere
[14:14] <holstein> menethoril: remove all of what?
[14:14] <TheLordOfTime> holstein:  the installed programs that come with [flavor]-desktop ?
[14:15] <holstein> i just leave them in place unless im worried about hard drive space
[14:15] <holstein> !pure
[14:15] <holstein> !purelxde
[14:16] <menethoril> TheLordOfTime: He could remove each and every program installed with Kubuntu-desktop, Xubuntu-desktop, etc. and just autoremove afterward, but it seems like a way to swiftly bork a config file or something.
[14:20] <bLadymoo> holstein, thank you. this page you gave would be a good start to read and doo
[14:20] <bLadymoo> can I shoot one more question
[14:20] <holstein> bLadymoo: thats what we are here for
[14:21] <bLadymoo> is there any stable (wont crash my display) themes for this GNOME PAnel i use with LXDE?
[14:21] <holstein> you are using a gnome panel with lxde?
[14:21] <bLadymoo> yeah
[14:22] <bLadymoo> I installed GNOME Panel on my Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS and LXDE
[14:22] <holstein> i have not done that.. i would expect any gnome panel theme to work
[14:22] <bLadymoo> it boots with LXDE right in to Gnome Panel (Gnome Classic)
[14:23] <holstein> the new gnome panel is one of my biggest gripes with the new gnome personally
[14:28] <bLadymoo> where do i find the new gnome panel
[14:29] <bLadymoo> This is what I get as result when I do sudo apt-get update : Reading package lists... Done
[14:29] <bLadymoo> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org precise InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:47] <bLadymoo> any idea?
[14:48] <holstein> bLadymoo: yup.. as it says, the sigs cannot be verified
[14:48] <holstein> you can look into adding the proper public key
[14:48] <bLadymoo> what is public key
[14:49] <holstein> bLadymoo: its the key you are missing that is causing that error
[14:50] <bLadymoo> how do i place it back?
[14:51] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
[14:51] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/20725/gpg-error-the-following-signatures-couldnt-be-verified-because-the-public-key
[14:52] <holstein> might be as simple as sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:52] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[14:54] <bLadymoo> add the hexadecimal numbers to the command (again, these are my keys from my error. Make sure to use your own):
[14:54] <bLadymoo> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 DCF9F87B6DFBCBAE 2EBC26B60C5A2783 A8A515F046D7E7CF 6E871C4A881574DE 28A8205077558DD0 D739676F7613768D 8C851674F96FD737 C0B56813051D8B58 4874D3686E80C6B7 60D11217247D1CFF 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 6D975C4791E7EE5E 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5 7FB8BEE0A1F196A8
[14:54] <bLadymoo> "make sure to use ur own" what does it mean with thast?
[14:54] <bLadymoo> *that?
[14:55] <holstein> bLadymoo: what command did you run? that giant one?
[14:55] <holstein> where did you get that?
[14:56] <bLadymoo> didnt
[14:56] <bLadymoo> its in that page u gave
[14:56] <holstein> bLadymoo: sure.. that will be for *that* particular error, not yours
[14:56] <holstein> the one i gave is what i would expect to fis yours
[14:57] <holstein> fix*
[14:57] <bLadymoo> this was my error: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org precise InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:57] <holstein> correct
[14:57] <holstein> thats where i got that code i linked you in the command i gave
[14:57] <holstein> 10:52 < holstein> might be as simple as sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:57] <bLadymoo> so i should type sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:58] <holstein> bLadymoo: you should add the key for the repository that is giving you that error
[14:59] <bLadymoo> holstein, you were right. Its fixed
[15:00] <holstein> bLadymoo: you dont want to just copy and paste commands from posts
[15:01] <holstein> that can get you into trouble.. you can always paste the command here and ask "does this look right?"
[16:34] <silverarrow> should minitube crash instantly in lubuntu?
[16:35] <holstein> in ppc, i would expect that
[16:36] <silverarrow> crap
[16:37] <silverarrow> I have used it before on regular pc,  but some time ago
[16:37] <silverarrow> it behaved exactly the same
[16:37] <holstein> yup.. flash is just awful
[16:37] <silverarrow> I thought it  might be different now
[16:37] <silverarrow> core2duo still should not be too horrid
[16:38] <silverarrow> I have to get a i7
[16:38] <silverarrow> is quad core a must these days?
[16:38] <leszek> hi
[16:39] <silverarrow> odd thing is I can get by on celeron cpu still, at least the fastest ones
[16:39] <silverarrow> hi leszek
[16:39] <leszek> silverarrow: it depends pretty much on what you do or want to do with your pc
[16:40] <leszek> for surfing, writing mails, watching some movies and listening to music even a single core atom is enough
[16:40] <silverarrow> true, I am not that demanding I though, but some stuff needs good hardware
[16:40] <leszek> yeah that for sure
[16:40] <leszek> video editing for example :P
[16:40] <holstein> compiling and rendering would benefit certainly
[16:41] <silverarrow> laptop is a must, good HD screen, fast, and I suppose if there is a chance the computer is intact and all fine after three years and still want to use it you need the i7
[16:41] <holstein> still, you can usually do it.. just might be limited or take 10 times longer
[16:41] <silverarrow> I do a bit of video editing, but not much
[16:42] <silverarrow> 17 " screen is nice to watchd, but 15" is more portable
[16:48] <menethoril> Get The newer version (1.8?) from a PPA.  Just search for it, I believe it is on webupd8.  It is far more stable.
[17:09] <leszek> re
[17:47] <bLadymoo> holstein,
[17:47] <bLadymoo> around?
[17:48] <Unit193> Howdy, whatcha need?
[17:49] <bLadymoo> anayway. is there a software that i can ignore some programs to run on startup?
[17:49] <holstein> bLadymoo: if you are new, i would just "get your feet wet" with the system
[17:50] <holstein> just use it for a while.. otherwise there are links like the one i linked before about how to speed up boot time
[17:50] <bLadymoo> holstein,  i tried this sysv-rc-conf
[17:50] <holstein> you can search for those with "ubuntu" instead of "lubuntu".. might get more results
[17:51] <bLadymoo> it did help some but it does not shows the mail that stands at top right on task bar which shows Online | Offline | Avilable ect for chat i guess
[17:51] <Unit193> There's a program that tells you what services run on startup, if you know you don't use some of those.
[17:52] <holstein> bLadymoo: i think its in the "i guess" that i urge you to look... dont assume things are taking up resources in linux
[17:52] <holstein> if you are new, i suggest taking some time and getting used to the system
[17:52] <holstein> shaving a few seconds off the boot time can take a lot of time editing and testing and breaking and reverting
[17:53] <bLadymoo> holstein,  alright. I am new and curious, BUT ur right. no need to start a trouble with playing system... i will follow what u say.
[17:53] <bLadymoo> i better play with icons and themes ect..
[17:54] <holstein> play with what you like.. just be aware that you can break things... and probably will.. which is a great way to learn
[17:54] <bLadymoo> How about giving more space between icons at taskbar that myself placed like chormium icon.. Those icons are stands so close to each other atm.
[17:55] <holstein> what task bar? the gnome panel?.. i havent used the new gnome panel
[17:55] <bLadymoo> btw. LXDE is increadably clean and light!
[17:55] <bLadymoo> Gnome panel yes... the right top
[17:55] <bLadymoo> oh i see
[18:35] <silverarrow> hi
[18:35] <silverarrow> does anyone know how gstreamer relatest to media streams in lubuntu?
[18:36] <holstein> in ppc linux under lubuntu
[18:36] <silverarrow> no more in general
[18:36] <silverarrow> well ppc too
[18:37] <silverarrow> I checked with a i384 system, and minitube crashes there too
[18:37] <holstein> silverarrow: you tried the PPA that menethoril suggested?
[18:37] <silverarrow> no
[18:38] <silverarrow> what did he suggest?
[18:38] <holstein> ppa.. trying the latest
[18:38] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/minitube
[18:38] <silverarrow> you mean, ppa as in precise pangolin?
[18:38] <holstein> problem is its a lot of variables
[18:39] <holstein> the content is not being designed to run in minitube
[18:39] <holstein> !ppa
[18:40] <silverarrow> I have 1.6
[18:40] <silverarrow> no wonder,
[18:40] <silverarrow> probably a few fixes thre
[18:40] <silverarrow> thanks holstein
[18:40] <silverarrow> sorry, I was a bit slow there
[18:40] <silverarrow> ppa, lol
[18:41] <holstein> no worries!
[18:46] <silverarrow> not an option for ppc I am afraid
[18:47] <silverarrow> ...but for the i386 computer it is
[18:47] <holstein> silverarrow: i thought you were testing both?
[18:47] <silverarrow> I am,
[18:48] <holstein> i would try the latest on nonPPPC
[18:48] <silverarrow> but hard to test ppc when there is not package
[18:48] <holstein> sure.. but you will know something
[18:48] <silverarrow> I will,
[18:48] <holstein> if it works well on non ppc, then you'll know that its possible, and not every version is crap
[18:48] <silverarrow> I  have had this trouble with minitube before, and I just gave it up
[18:48] <holstein> you'll know that you should try and find/build the latest version for pps
[18:49] <holstein> if it still sux, you can just give up
[18:49] <holstein> silverarrow: i literally read about what minitube was and gave up on it
[18:49] <holstein> years ago.. too many variables
[18:49] <silverarrow> I have discovered an odd thing with minitube
[18:51] <silverarrow> there is an addon in firefox "minitube-integration" where any youtube video starting in browser open in a separate window in minitub too, and do not crash?
[18:51] <silverarrow> best picture quality too
[18:52] <silverarrow> for ppc sound is lost on html5 in Firefox 15
[18:54] <holstein> ppc is not actively developed
[18:54] <holstein> i mean, if you were near me, id just give you some p4 and you could donate that ppc
[19:10] <silverarrow> holstein: so minitube is not that fancy?
[19:10] <holstein> fancy?... its just playing youtube vids
[19:10] <holstein> i dont care much about either
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> minitube is grea
[19:15] <inkyion> hi everyone! somehow over the 11->12 upgrade my sound and mic settings have gone bonkers, i was wondering if anyone's had experience fixing this sort of thing
[19:16] <silverarrow> well, I have opened alsamixer and fuzzed with settings?
[19:16] <silverarrow> bonkers, you mean way off or lost at sea?
[19:16] <inkyion> whoa, fuzzed? what do you mean?
[19:17] <silverarrow> well, sometimes settings go off in mixer during updates
[19:17] <silverarrow> have you opened terminal and typed in alsamixer?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> inkyion: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 sconds then retry sound
[19:18] <inkyion> um, ok. the new skype (4.?) was "automatically" adjusting mic and volume (i assume in alsa) and doing a bad job of it. then today the mic stopped working altogether. naturally the first thing i did was unset the setting to let it autoadjust
[19:18] <inkyion> i did open up alsamixer, that was next
[19:18] <silverarrow> the vegetable hero is the clever guy
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> haha only sometimes
[19:19] <inkyion> i unmuted the mic and cranked up most of the booster but i don't know what all the settings mean
[19:19] <Unit193> http://askubuntu.com/questions/96367/how-can-i-get-line-in-microphone-working-with-skype-on-lubuntu-11-10 ?
[19:19] <inkyion> i read that you're supposed to kill pulseaudio but i don't understand what it does
[19:20] <silverarrow> me neiter really, but I play around with them until I am fairly happy, this laptop has horrid sound anyway
[19:20] <inkyion> here's the thing
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> inkyion: it frees up the config files, pulse gets set to automatically rerun, it will then generate default configs
[19:20] <inkyion> i try to record sound with audacity and that isn't working either
[19:20] <silverarrow> I didn`t think we had pulseaudio in lubuntu?
[19:20] <inkyion> trying the pulseaudio thing
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> not by default, it can be installed (one of my systems needs it for some reason)
[19:28] <inkyion> sorry my whole everything just froze
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> inkyion: have you tested your RAM?
[19:32] <inkyion> no? would that sort of thing just pop up all of a sudden? this computer is relatively new (~2 years old) and pretty reliable. am now trying to record sound after reboot
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> inkyion: RAM can be DOA
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> inkyion: newness is irrelevant, if you are getting freezing it may be bad RAM
[19:35] <inkyion> i think i just had waaaaay too many windows open.
[19:35] <inkyion> how do i test my ram?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> inkyion: reboot, hold SHIFT and select memtest from Grub
[19:36] <silverarrow> htop?
[19:36] <inkyion> thanks
[19:37] <silverarrow> serious memtest
[19:37] <inkyion> what's the difference between mic, mic-boost, internal boost, and capture
[19:37] <inkyion> ?
[19:37] <silverarrow> memory are usually not a problem on newer hard ware
[19:38] <silverarrow> in media player?
[19:38] <inkyion> in alsa
[19:39] <silverarrow> not sure
[19:39] <silverarrow> I just try different settings until I am fairly happy with them
[19:39] <silverarrow> I don`t use mic often
[19:40] <FounderOf42O> Is there a way i can get avdanced touchpad settings on lubuntu? xubuntu and ubuntu have it by default
[19:41] <silverarrow> depends, is it gnome spesific?
[19:42] <silverarrow> in lubuntu there are functions listed under preferances
[19:42] <FounderOf42O> i'm not sure what package it is. could be gpointing-device-settings but it has no integration on lxde and the setings dont stick after reboot
[19:43] <silverarrow> I think you should be able to find most stuff available, maybe with an extra package install
[19:43] <silverarrow> I see
[19:44] <silverarrow> maybe the lxde channel?
[19:44] <FounderOf42O> ok thanks
[19:46] <inkyion> ok, i think i just found out what pulseaudio does :). killing it takes out the little volume control in the dock. re-starting it with pulseaudio -D doesn't seem to restore functionality. playing music no longer makes sounds ok, so pulse does something important. :-D
[19:46] <inkyion> as expected
[19:55] <mooser> Hi. How can I report a wrong spelling on linux?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> mooser: report a bug
[19:55] <mooser> how
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mooser: ubuntu-bug packagename     in terminal will start it
[19:58] <inkyion> another reboot later i am giving up for the time being. the only way i can interpret this is pulse makes my computer functional, so i'm keeping it and troubleshoot skype later. thanks for all your help!
[19:58] <mooser> sudo -ubuntu-bug weather indicator
[19:58] <mooser> this did not worked
[20:00] <mooser> btw I visited the extensions.gnome.org and it gives me this warning with a red color text: You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information.
[20:01] <mooser> I have Gnome Panel installed on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS  with LXDE
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> mooser: no need for sudo, i never mentioned sudo...did I
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> ?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> mooser: so why add it?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> mooser: ubuntu-bug weather-indicator     (assuming that is the package name)
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> mooser: if you run smoeting different to what is advised, don't be overly suprised if it doesn't work
[20:07] <mooser> ActionParsnip,  sorry, I thought its all need sudo to effect
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> mooser: no, a lot of things don't need sudo
[20:09] <mooser> i see
[20:10] <mooser> well i may check the software center for right package name maybe
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mooser: or run:  dpkg -l | grep weather | awk {'print $2'}
[20:13] <silverarrow> I installed Totem, to see if I could get nett Tv to work
[20:15] <silverarrow> not any luck though
[20:15] <mooser> ActionParsnip, Result of the command u gave is: indicator-weather
[20:15] <mooser> libgweather-3-0
[20:15] <mooser> libgweather-common
[20:15] <mooser> python-pywapi
[20:16] <mooser> we put the weather first.
[20:17] <silverarrow> minitube works for powerpc in tiger and leopard OSX
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> mooser: then run:  ubuntu-bug indicator-weather
[20:22] <mooser> did. ive got a bug report screen wich is filled with some information but what i wanted is actually some thing i could type and state the issue