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xnoxi think on monday we will have beta candidate images, so those will be tested monday onwards.00:01
xnoxuntil monday still dailies testing00:01
leadsledthanks for the info xnox00:08
phillwxnox: are they really going to give us 4 days this time?!!!!00:19
xnoxphillw: they always do.00:20
phillwxnox: it will be a first.00:20
xnoxexcept for respins.... each time it respins, the clock resets00:20
xnoxall must be retested, but still to be released on thursday00:21
phillwxnox: I'm talking about the 'full' respins that knock all tests out. It is a muttering point to be brought up uds.00:21
phillwiso tracker has no way of carrying bugs forward that were not fixed in a re-spin00:22
phillwxnox: yes, I'm just having a quiet moan... I know work is on going, but throwing that with cadence which can also not track bugs is overloading testers.00:23
xnoxi thought it did.00:23
xnoxphillw: but why should it? we should fix respin bugs, hence we should not copy them.00:24
phillwnope, it wipes them. there 'seems' to be now a 'be aware of' installed but that takes a lot of tracking down00:24
xnoxand if the respin bug is reported agains the new spin, it's very serious.00:25
phillwxnox: e.g. If a respin is done to fix critical bugs... why delete all the ones it did not fix?00:25
phillwxnox: what the dev team are proposing is that the testers must re-do every bug report, every 2 weeks - regardless if there is a fix..... convenient for dev team - does not solve the bug?00:27
xnoxit's easy to do reverse look-up there is a tag on launchpad and you can see *all* open bug reports, which came from iso-testing.00:28
xnoxand you should be checking the bug reports *before* opening a new one again.00:28
xnoxbecause it strains me to mark them as duplicate......00:28
phillwxnox: and that is the point which you fail to understand...00:28
phillwa tester grabs an iso, the existing bugs should be on there.00:29
xnoxall 100 000 of them?00:29
phillwxnox: do you want 200 000?00:29
xnoxwell actually we have more than 1 000 000 bugs now.00:30
xnoxgrab and iso, test, hit a bug, check launchpad if it is already reported, file a bug.00:30
xnoxsorry.00:30
xnoxif it isn't reported, file a bug00:30
phillwif the iso tracker for testing does not carry bugs not fixed over, then a tester will report it - then the bug team have to waste time marking it as dup00:30
xnoxif it is reported, _link it_ on the iso tracker.00:31
phillwxnox: it is a known bug. just be aware of it00:31
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jibelballoons, in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/22117/buginstructions there is a typo10:36
jibelballoons, ... while booting the system after installaton:             ubuntu-bug grub210:36
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sagacito test quantal beta 1 images or the quantal daily13:40
smartboyhwsagaci: Uh huh13:40
sagaciI'll go the beta 1 images13:41
sagacimaybe not, netbook only13:41
sagacilatest daily partitioning is a bit error-y13:45
jibelsagaci, Beta 1 are not there yet13:46
sagaciyeah, I just synced the daily instead13:47
jibelsagaci, next build should be the first B1 candidate, you can zsync it from the latest daily you downloaded to save bandwidth13:48
smartboyhwsagaci: I even got a critical bug out of it13:54
sagacismartboyhw, partitioning error?13:55
smartboyhwNo, install error13:55
smartboyhwLet me find the bug number13:55
sagacibug 104438413:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1044384 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with exit code 141" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104438413:55
smartboyhwNug 104429913:55
smartboyhwBug 104429913:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1044299 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-partman crashed, and then no installation process, no installation options" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104429913:55
sagaciyup13:56
smartboyhwUh oh, duplicate13:56
smartboyhwmarked as duplicate13:57
sagaciyup13:57
smartboyhwping balloons have you woken up?14:28
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plarsfor netboot minimal isos, what's the difference between mini.iso and mini-gtk.iso?19:04
balloonsmini-gtk?19:05
plarsballoons: rather, the mini.iso in the gtk directory19:07
davmor2plars: mini.iso is the one you want for netboot, not sure about the difference19:07
balloonsright.. mini.iso is what you want19:08
balloonswhere are you seeing gtk dir?19:08
davmor2plars: Oh I wonder if one gives you the default Ubuntu desktop only19:08
plarsdavmor2: yeah, the mini.iso in the gtk dir doesn't seem to work, but I was wondering if it should, and what it's purpose in life is (other than taking up a bit more space than the one in the parent directory)19:08
davmor2plars: best person will be cjwatson at a guess19:09
plarsisn't it always? I thought I'd give him a break and try it as an open question here first though :)19:09
plarswhat *is* slightly troubling though, is we have things like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/graphical.html that point to look for netboot/gtk/mini.iso19:11
balloonsplars, that's really odd19:35
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