[04:23] <Kilos> good morning all
[04:46] <Squirm> morning
[04:46] <Squirm> Kilos: you're up very early, it's not a competition you know
[04:46] <Kilos> lol hi there Squirm 
[04:47] <Kilos> used to be who could do fp remember
[04:47] <Kilos> ive had the fp's of the year 2 years running
[04:47] <Squirm> unless you go to bed after 12, I've been here man times before you :P
[04:48] <Kilos> im normally awake by now, open gates for sis and swaar to go to work
[04:49] <Kilos> winter is too cold to come near the pc
[04:51] <Squirm> I mean, you only got in at 2pm yesterday :P
[04:52] <Kilos> yes had bird to catch first and worked on a drive thats giving probs , i dont leave good drives connected while playing with a dicy one
[04:53] <Kilos> Squirm, do you know what wireless cards cost?
[04:54] <Kilos> i wanna try see if there is a wireless connection in the area but dunno what all i would need
[04:58] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[04:59] <jrgns> morning
[04:59] <jrgns> how's the bird doing?
[04:59] <Kilos> bally thing kicked the bucket inna night
[04:59] <jrgns> eish
[04:59] <Kilos> all that hard work for nothing
[05:00] <Kilos> dunno if it got sick while being out for however long it was or if it was the stress of being caught and put inna cage
[05:01] <Kilos> sigh
[05:01] <jrgns> sucky
[05:04] <jrgns> any idea why i'll get this in ubuntu /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[05:04] <jrgns> happens when i run ssh-copy-id
[05:05] <Squirm> Kilos: we have them for about R185
[05:05] <Kilos> must be empty
[05:05] <Squirm> it's an estimate cost price
[05:05] <jrgns> the id file is there, and not empty
[05:05] <Kilos> ty Squirm does one then need to get an aerial as well
[05:06] <jrgns> permissions, perhaps?
[05:06] <Kilos> try with sudo jrgns 
[05:06] <Squirm> Kilos: a normal wireless card? surely that's a bit much to see what wireless connections are around
[05:06] <Squirm> and they usually come with a small one - suitable for indoor use
[05:07] <jrgns> Kilos: same thing
[05:07] <Kilos> how else do you find if there is wireless in the area Squirm 
[05:07] <Squirm> jrgns: ls ~/.ssh
[05:08] <jrgns> id_rsa id_rsa.jrgns config known_hosts
[05:08] <Squirm> ok
[05:08] <jrgns> duh
[05:08] <jrgns> the public key is missing
[05:08] <Squirm> id_rsa.jrgns
[05:08] <Squirm> that could be it
[05:08] <jrgns> nope, i have to private keys
[05:08] <Squirm> else specifiy -i
[05:08] <Squirm> ok
[05:08] <Squirm> $ ssh-copy-id -h
[05:08] <Squirm> Usage: /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id [-i [identity_file]] [user@]machine
[05:09] <jrgns> ja, i used the -i option
[05:09] <Squirm> ok
[05:09] <jrgns> but since the public key was missing, that didn't help
[05:09] <Squirm> yep
[05:14] <Kilos> jrgns, can you not create one
[05:15] <Kilos> nuvolari, told me how to do mine
[05:15] <jrgns> i have the public key somewhere, copied it into .ssh
[05:15] <jrgns> but it's still bombing
[05:15] <Kilos> oh my
[05:15] <Squirm> see if it works with a new one?
[05:17] <jrgns> mmm, it might be because of the ssh-agent
[05:17] <jrgns> let me try making a new one first
[05:18] <jrgns> even with a new one
[05:18] <jrgns> so it's probably the agent?
[05:19] <Squirm> what it telling you?
[05:19] <jrgns> yup. ssh-agent -L
[05:19] <jrgns> says no identities
[05:19] <jrgns> ssh-add
[05:19] <jrgns> adds the new identity, and I can do ssh-copy-id
[05:20] <jrgns> strange, all the docs say the -i options should bypass the agent
[05:20] <Squirm> i would use ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub machine_here
[05:21] <jrgns> that's what i did, yes
[05:22] <Squirm> well it worked on my debian machine
[05:22] <Squirm> and my fedora machine
[05:22] <Squirm> and my RH machine
[05:22] <Squirm> :P
[05:24] <jrgns> it working on your machine doesn't solve my problem... :P
[05:24] <Squirm> no
[05:24] <Squirm> just saying the command works :P
[05:24] <Squirm> oh damn, I'm pretty late now
[05:24]  * Squirm sighs
[05:24] <Squirm> be back in 10/15
[05:25] <Kilos> run
[05:26] <Kilos> bbnn wanna change keyboard
[05:26] <jrgns> Squirm, when you're back, pls do ssh-add -l
[05:26] <jrgns> see if you have any identities registered?
[05:26] <jrgns> brb
[05:50] <Squirm> will do
[05:50] <Squirm> jrgns: yes there is
[06:06] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[06:08] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:09] <jrgns> Squirm: it would be interesting if the ssh-copy-id cmd still works if there were no identities?
[06:09] <jrgns> initially mine was empty
[06:13] <superfly> Hi Kilos, jrgns
[06:13] <jrgns> hey superfly
[06:14] <superfly> And Squirm
[06:15] <superfly> Kilos: despite the rain, our train is working fine, albeit a little late.
[06:16] <Kilos> yay superfly 
[06:16] <Kilos> weather doesnt look too good there at the moment 
[06:21] <Kerbero> nope
[06:21] <Kilos> hi Kerbero 
[06:21] <Kerbero> it's rainging here
[06:21] <Kerbero> hi Kilos 
[06:22] <Kerbero> haleluja, it's raining here~
[06:22] <Kerbero> :(
[06:22] <Kilos> i still think the cape is for penguins and great whites
[06:22] <Kerbero> jip
[06:22] <Kerbero> until it becomes 40 in summer
[06:22] <Kerbero> then everthing will die
[06:23] <Kilos> even then you cant go into the water
[06:23] <Kerbero> eish ja
[06:24] <Kilos> went and rode footup trials there many years ago in stellies and went to gordons bay after for a swim, nearly froze my nuts off
[06:36] <Squirm> hello superfly 
[06:36] <Squirm> you have a train?
[06:38] <Kilos> lol
[06:46] <DigiGram> a course on automatic debugging: http://blog.udacity.com/2012/08/automate-boring-tasks-in-andreas.html
[06:46] <DigiGram> *a free course
[06:48] <superfly> Squirm: no, I use public transport
[06:49] <Kilos> hi DigiGram 
[06:50] <DigiGram> good morning oom Kilos 
[06:51] <DigiGram> mmm I wonder how long a package from Taiwan to Potchefstroom would take
[06:51] <DigiGram> It was sent yesterday, so my guess is it is in South Africa already, but will only arrive at my door in  about 4 weeks...
[06:52] <Kilos> lol
[06:52] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[06:52] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[06:52] <superfly> DigiGram: lately parcels from my wife's folks in the USA have taken 3-4 weeks
[06:52] <superfly> hi inetpro 
[06:53] <DigiGram> morning inetpro 
[06:53] <DigiGram> well, I'm not paying for the contents of the package, so I guess I'll be happy even if it takes 2 months
[06:54] <Kilos> just get the tracking number and keep track of it
[06:56] <DigiGram> They ship from Taiwan to the South African wharehouse, and from there they distrobute, so I do not yet know which service they will use in SA
[06:57] <DigiGram> but the packet contents is like 50grams, if it wasn't electronics they could use normal postage for all that I care
[06:58] <Kilos> what is it?
[07:00] <DigiGram> 6 microcontrollers
[07:00] <DigiGram> with it I'm planning to take over the world buwhahaha
[07:00] <Kilos> hehe
[07:01] <DigiGram> or well, at least create a working model of my aquarium automationconcept
[07:02] <DigiGram> and two spinn-off products namely a colour-meter for the colour-blind (or lazy or gizmo junky), and a accelerometer based digital tapemeasure
[07:03] <DigiGram> around R50 per microcontroller, but if you request samples, they send you up to 6 for a R62 processing fee, straight from the manufacturer, so its not a scam lol
[07:03] <Kilos> wow
[07:09] <Squirm> superfly: where abouts is such a thing they call this 'public transport'?
[07:23] <superfly> Squirm: the mother city
[07:30] <Squirm> makes sense
[07:30] <Squirm> somewhere I'd like to go
[09:18] <Symmetria> *SIGH*
[09:18] <Symmetria> I hate stupid empowerment rules
[09:32] <magespawn> good day y'all
[09:33] <charlvn> good morning
[09:33] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[09:33]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:34] <magespawn> DigiGram where could I get the details of those microcontrollers?
[09:34] <magespawn> hey charlvn
[09:34] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[09:34] <Maaz> magespawn: Righto
[09:34] <DigiGram> it's PIC18F4550 and PIC18F2500
[09:35] <DigiGram> *PIC18F2550
[09:35] <DigiGram> not 2500
[09:35] <DigiGram> you can get details from microchip.com or on za.rs-online.com
[09:35] <DigiGram> Maaz, coffee please
[09:35] <Maaz> DigiGram: Okay
[09:35] <DigiGram> with some sinu-flu
[09:35] <magespawn> ty DigiGram
[09:36] <DigiGram> and once I get it I'll start throwing code on my blog for them
[09:37] <DigiGram> first project will be to build a DIY PICKIT2 to program the chips. Got the schematics and code from a couple of sites, so hope it works
[09:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn, magespawn and DigiGram!
[09:38] <DigiGram> Maaz, tx
[09:38] <Maaz> DigiGram: Sorry...
[09:38] <DigiGram> Maaz, ty
[09:38] <Maaz> You are welcome DigiGram
[09:38] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[09:38] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[09:38] <DigiGram> lol didn't know that command
[09:39] <magespawn> where is your blog DigiGram?
[09:39] <DigiGram> beinganengineer3.blogspot.com
[09:39] <DigiGram> still almost nothing on there
[09:39] <charlvn> Maaz: dankeschon
[09:39] <Maaz> charlvn: What?
[09:40] <charlvn> Maaz: 
[09:40] <Maaz> charlvn: What?
[09:40] <charlvn> Maaz: dankeschön
[09:40] <Maaz> charlvn: dankeschön is Bitteschön
[09:40] <charlvn> Maaz: danke schön
[09:40] <Maaz> charlvn: Sorry...
[09:40] <charlvn> Maaz: dummkopf
[09:40] <Maaz> charlvn: *blink*
[09:40] <magespawn> hah language lesson from a bot
[09:40] <magespawn> Maaz Bitteschön
[09:40] <Maaz> magespawn: What?
[09:40] <magespawn> lol
[09:40] <charlvn> Maaz: du bist ein sehr geile bot
[09:40] <Maaz> charlvn: What?
[09:40] <charlvn> :D
[09:41] <magespawn> but it is funny
[09:42] <magespawn> DigiGram: I will be following that project with interest
[09:42] <DigiGram> which part :)
[09:43] <magespawn> alll of it
[09:43] <magespawn> all even
[09:43] <magespawn> i studied nature conservation out of school
[09:44] <magespawn> i am now looking to extend my knowledge into other areas
[09:45] <DigiGram> okay, here is part of the project, a concept I pitched to Tropical Aquariums South Africa's forum: http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?12892-Any-Colourblind-or-Lazy-people-out-there-Follow-this&highlight=colourblind
[09:45] <magespawn> could you use an arduino or raspberry pi?
[09:46] <DigiGram> yes you could, but why use R300's worth of processing power for something that a R50 PIC can do?
[09:47] <DigiGram> and I heard a little birdy singing that the price will seriously drop on the controller I'm working with
[09:49] <DigiGram> but my code should be compattible with Arduino in the end, you will just need to port it yourself as I do not have one
[09:49] <magespawn> if you but the controller it is R713 for the PIC18F4550 from http://za.rs-online.com
[09:50] <DigiGram> I've won a MSP430 Launchpad with my project idea though, so I might port code for that as well...
[09:50] <DigiGram> What?? it was R53 or R43 the other day
[09:50] <DigiGram> http://za.rs-online.com/web/p/microcontrollers/6230803/
[09:51] <DigiGram> the R713 one is a complete development board
[09:52] <DigiGram> here is some random links for USB IO devices and programmers etc for the PIC18F2(4)550 -- http://pastebin.com/ivVsRxFx
[09:52] <magespawn> ahh right
[09:54] <magespawn> not sure i would be up to putting the board together yet
[09:54] <DigiGram> hehe
[09:55] <DigiGram> well, this will be my first time getting into microcontrollers, so I'll make all of the mistakes and post them to my blog as well lol
[10:01] <magespawn> i would like to get some of those goodies
[10:01] <magespawn> put them on the christmas list
[10:01] <DigiGram> I have ordered 3 PIC18F2550 and 3 PIC18F4550 as samples from Microchip and only paid R62 ($7.5)
[10:02] <DigiGram> will have to see how long it takes to get here and if I have to pay any import fee's
[11:16] <zeref> Varsity holidays!!!
[11:37] <tonberryE352> holidays?
[11:38] <tonberryE352> where do the undergrads get the time to go on holiday?
[11:59] <Squirm> hello
[13:04] <jrgns> hello Squirm
[13:15] <Squirm> hello jrgns 
[13:15] <Squirm> jrgns: sort your ssh id out?
[13:15] <jrgns> yup. ssh-agent was interfering
[13:15] <jrgns> i added my identity using ssh-add
[13:15] <jrgns> and it worked
[13:16] <jrgns> would you mind doing ssh-add -l
[13:16] <jrgns> lol, soz, saw you did
[13:27] <Squirm> :P
[13:27] <Squirm> I've never used or heard of ssh-add and ssh-agent before today
[13:32] <jrgns> yup, me neither
[13:43] <magespawn> hey guys
[13:43] <superfly> yo magespawn
[13:43] <magespawn> what are ssh ing to?
[13:43] <magespawn> hey superfly
[13:43] <magespawn> Squirm jrgns 
[13:43] <magespawn> ^^
[13:44] <magespawn> what are you ssh-ing to?
[13:45] <magespawn> DigiGram_away: when you get back, on that development board what are those black circles that look like buttons, there are four in a square pattern.
[13:46] <magespawn> whats up superfly?
[13:47] <superfly> magespawn: nothing much, having a fairly productive day at work
[13:48] <superfly> been working on making that blue button functional ;-)
[13:48] <magespawn> well that always a good thing does tend to keep one employed
[13:48] <magespawn> thats a good thing.
[13:49] <magespawn> more products to sell, will make THE product more attractive
[13:49] <magespawn> lol
[13:59] <superfly> magespawn: yep
[14:01] <superfly> magespawn: of course you'll be informed by official channels when that becomes available
[14:01] <magespawn> cool ty
[14:01] <magespawn> i need to make some progress with them but things have been going a bit mad lately
[14:02] <magespawn> this might be a bit of a sensitive question
[14:02] <magespawn> so maybe i should pm it instead
[14:06] <magespawn> superfly?
[14:10] <superfly> magespawn: yeah, business questions are best PMed :-)
[16:29] <zeref> ..
[16:47] <Squirm> wow, the tiredness
[16:48]  * smile hugs magespawn & Squirm
[16:52] <Squirm> evening smile 
[16:53] <smile> evening :)
[16:59] <charl> hi smile 
[16:59] <charl> how's it going
[16:59] <smile> charl: well I feel like a monkey :P need to take a shower ^^
[16:59] <smile> and you, charl ;)
[16:59] <smile> I'm fine btw xD
[17:00] <charl> lol
[17:00] <smile> :D
[17:01] <charl> i know the feeling, i have been painting my new appartment, i quickly take a shower afterwards :P
[17:01] <smile> charl: I don't want to take a shower, but I want to feel fresh
[17:01] <smile> And I fear it's the only way
[17:01] <smile> :p
[17:01] <charl> can't go to my "white collar" work when i smell like a "blue collar" worker
[17:02] <charl> lol
[17:02] <charl> ok time for dinner bbl
[17:04] <Squirm> smile: splashing ones face and cleaning ones hands will help for a short amount of time
[17:04] <smile> Squirm: yea :p
[17:05] <smile> charl: have a good dinner
[17:07] <magespawn> evening guys hi smile
[17:08] <magespawn> well the weekends off to a bang, just caught a puff adder outside the back door
[17:08] <smile> magespawn: evening :D
[17:17] <Kilos> hi magespawn smile charl 
[17:18] <smile> hi Kilos :)
[17:18] <Kilos> hope you were all good todåy
[17:18] <smile> yes today was fine
[17:18] <Kilos> smile, you feel like a monkey
[17:19] <smile> yes :p
[17:19] <Kilos> everyone does
[17:19] <smile> haha
[17:19] <smile> :D
[17:19] <Kilos> with their hands
[17:19] <charl> humans are two-footed monkeys right?
[17:20] <Kilos> lol
[17:20] <charl> monkeys that walk upright
[17:20] <charl> they say humans are the most similar to pigs in terms of physiology
[17:20] <charl> that makes perfect sense to me
[17:20] <Kilos> yeah some havent even evolved yet
[17:21] <Kilos> still beha and smell like pigs
[17:21] <Kilos> behave
[17:21] <smile> charl: ;)
[17:21] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[17:21] <charl> bbl
[17:21] <Kilos> k
[17:23] <magespawn> look up bonobo, I think I spelt that right.
[17:24] <Kilos> bonobo?
[17:24] <magespawn> type of monkey, walk upright, the genetic difference between us and them is something like 8%
[17:26] <Kilos> whew
[17:41] <superfly> magespawn: the genetic difference between humans and bananas is 2%, so you might just be part banana ;-)
[17:42] <Kilos> rofl
[17:55] <nuvolari> :>
[17:55] <nuvolari> hello's
[17:55]  * nuvolari checks in to confirm being alive
[17:56] <magespawn> hah superfly
[17:56] <magespawn> hey nuvolari
[17:56] <nuvolari> howdy oom Kilos, superfly, magespawn, smile, zeref 
[17:56] <Kilos> hiya nuvolari 
[17:57] <superfly> hi nuvolari
[17:57] <smile> nuvolari: :)
[17:58]  * Kilos still chuckling at nanaspawn
[17:58] <nuvolari> Kilos: what did I miss with nanaspawn?
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <Kilos> magespawn, said we only 8% different genetically from monkeys
[17:59] <Kilos> and superfly said we only 2% different from bananas
[18:31] <smile> bye everyone :)
[18:32] <Kilos> night smile 
[18:32] <smile> thanks
[18:32] <smile> :)
[18:32] <smile> you too
[18:32] <smile> and charl : good night
[18:32] <smile> :)
[18:33] <charlvanniekerk> ciao smile 
[18:33] <smile> good night :D
[18:34] <charlvanniekerk> good evening all
[18:51] <Kilos> hi charly
[18:58] <charlvanniekerk> hi Kilos 
[18:58] <Kilos> night everyone. sleep tight
[18:58] <charlvanniekerk> how's it going
[18:58] <charlvanniekerk> ciao
[18:58] <charlvanniekerk> have a good night
[18:59] <Kilos> too much nick there charlvanniekerk 
[18:59] <Kilos> ty you too
[18:59] <charlvanniekerk> thanks!
[18:59] <charlvanniekerk> lol
[18:59] <Kilos> head thumpin so sleep calls
[18:59] <Kilos> see yous tomorrow
[19:37] <magespawn> later all the bed is calling loudly
[20:09] <nuvolari> o/ night everyone
[20:40] <Symmetria> hrm
[20:40] <Symmetria> morrisette has a new album out
[20:40] <Symmetria> wonder if its any good
[20:40] <Symmetria> heh didnt even know staind had released an album last year either
[20:55] <16WAA1TWW> oh dear
[23:11] <Squirm> it's after 1? oops
[23:15] <Squirm> guess it's fp for that one