[00:50] <Nosferath> Uh, hello there, I need help installing ubuntu studio on my pc
[00:51] <Nosferath> Is anyone there?
[01:08] <holstein> Nosferath: we are here
[01:08] <holstein> just ask :)
[01:40] <Nosferath> still there?
[01:40] <smartboyhw> o/ holstein
[01:40] <smartboyhw> Hi Nosferath
[01:40] <Nosferath> I need help installing ubuntu
[01:40] <Nosferath> I want to install it on my old pc
[01:40] <smartboyhw> Uh huh, you mean Ubuntu Studio?
[01:40] <Nosferath> yup
[01:41] <Nosferath> It already has xp installed though
[01:41] <smartboyhw> Dual boot.
[01:41] <Nosferath> no
[01:41] <smartboyhw> ?
[01:41] <Nosferath> I want to have Ubuntu only
[01:41] <Nosferath> I want to get rid of xp on that pc
[01:41] <Nosferath> it's my old one
[01:41] <hansfbaier> Is there any info on the web about kernel / realtime / low latency configuration?
[01:41] <smartboyhw> OK, then just backup your data, then use the erase disk and install option
[01:41] <Nosferath> erase disk, where do I get that?
[01:41] <Nosferath> wait
[01:41] <Nosferath> Where's that option?
[01:41] <holstein> hansfbaier: the kernel we ship is lowlatency.. if you need lower, you'll need a PPA
[01:42] <Nosferath> I saw it nowhere
[01:42] <smartboyhw> In the Ubuntu Studio DVD installer
[01:42] <smartboyhw> ?
[01:42] <Nosferath> Oh
[01:42] <Nosferath> When I selected the install option
[01:42] <Nosferath> there was some sort of crash
[01:42] <holstein> hansfbaier: the default is typically all most users need.. i wouldnt expect much more performance, though the realtime is available via PPA
[01:42] <Nosferath> I tried running ubuntu w/o install and it worked
[01:42] <hansfbaier> I use standard ubuntu though and like to add the ubuntu studio packages as needed
[01:42] <Nosferath> But when I tried to check some option
[01:42] <Nosferath> s
[01:43] <Nosferath> It crashed the same way
[01:43] <hansfbaier> ubuntu studio is merged with mainstream/universe now I assume....?
[01:43] <smartboyhw> hansbaier: Then use sudo apt-get install
[01:43] <holstein> Nosferath: i like to get to the live desktop... i like to see ubuntu running and see that the hardware is supported... i would do that, and report how the installer works
[01:43] <holstein> hansfbaier: the lowlatency kernel is in the repos
[01:43] <holstein> hansfbaier: the ppa i referenced will work with any *buntu
[01:43] <Nosferath> My hardware is supported, as it worked on my pc
[01:43] <smartboyhw> hansfbaier: Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[01:44] <Nosferath> But for some reason it sort of crashed, let me try again to give you details
[01:44] <smartboyhw> Nosferath: Look at http://i.stack.imgur.com/gkaIA.png
[01:44] <hansfbaier> smartboyhw: Thanks1
[01:44] <smartboyhw> hansfbaier: NP
[01:44] <holstein> Nosferath: you have seen the live desktop running?
[01:44] <Nosferath> oh kk
[01:44] <Nosferath> Yes
[01:44] <Nosferath> It ran
[01:44] <hansfbaier> smartboyhw: Thanks that's what I was looking for....
[01:44] <smartboyhw> :)
[01:44] <Nosferath> but after clicking some things (I'm new with ubuntu/linux) it crashed
[01:45] <smartboyhw> Er, what? Which version are you downloading?? Nosfertath, it shouldn't crash
[01:45] <holstein> you can open any package manager and search "ubuntustudio"... you also dont need ubuntustudio.. you can just install what packages you want
[01:46] <smartboyhw> Yeah yeah yeah, I just did it yesterday, installing Ubuntu Studio in Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS:)
[01:46] <smartboyhw> Nosferath: Tell me when did it crash
[01:46] <holstein> sure.. and you can, but if you dont need to, i wouldnt.. you get a different UI.. quite a few changes
[01:46] <smartboyhw> Unity -> Xfce:)
[01:47] <Nosferath> It crashed again
[01:47] <holstein> right.. thats quite different... if you are used to unity, you can use all the apps from ubuntutsudio in unity on ubuntu
[01:47] <smartboyhw> Nosferath: Did you download the 12.04.1 ISO? Or are you using 12.10?
[01:47] <Nosferath> it says "panic occured, switching back to text console"
[01:47] <smartboyhw> Yeah, don't I know holstein:)
[01:48] <Nosferath> 12.04
[01:48] <holstein> i would test the memory, the downloaded image, and the disc. the disk has a test on it Nosferath
[01:48] <Nosferath> .1
[01:48] <holstein> and a memory tester
[01:48] <Nosferath> Ok
[01:48] <holstein> !md5 | Nosferath
[01:48] <holstein> i might also test the hard drive, if only just a quick one
[01:48] <smartboyhw> Yeah, when boot you'll see five options, one for live, one for install, one for memory test, one for booting into first HDD, one for CD image check
[01:49] <Nosferath> My old pc doesn't work
[01:49] <Nosferath> at least, it's not well installed
[01:49] <holstein> Nosferath: what old PC?
[01:49] <smartboyhw> ?
[01:49] <Nosferath> "old"
[01:49] <holstein> are there 2 machines?
[01:49] <Nosferath> It's the pc where I'm trying to install the thing
[01:49] <holstein> the thing = ubuntustudio?
[01:49] <holstein> that pc "doesnt work" ?
[01:49] <Nosferath> I mean
[01:50] <Nosferath> the thing = ubuntu studio, yeah
[01:50] <holstein> i typically start testing hardware when a live CD or installer that i know is good fails
[01:50] <Nosferath> and doesn't work means, when I but into Xp, it doesn't work well, desktop won't load
[01:50] <Nosferath> and it's slow
[01:50] <Nosferath> gotta format it
[01:50] <holstein> right.. could be bad memory or a bad hard drive
[01:50] <Nosferath> haven't used it for a long time
[01:50] <Nosferath> how to check that?
[01:51] <Nosferath> also, that pc doesn't have internet connection
[01:51] <holstein> Nosferath: i would use the live CD for the memory test
[01:51] <holstein> Nosferath: i have other live CD's i prefer for testing the hard drive
[01:51] <Nosferath> Where do I get it?
[01:51] <holstein> sometimes there are tests in the bios.. you can use the ubuntu live CD
[01:51] <smartboyhw> Download it:)
[01:52] <holstein> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ is the one i like to use.. but you can use the ubuntustudio live CD
[01:52] <Nosferath> ok
[01:52] <Nosferath> using the ubuntu one
[01:52] <smartboyhw> Good:)
[01:56] <Nosferath> if I install ubuntu, will the installation program format the hard drive to ext?
[01:57] <smartboyhw> Yes, ext4.
[02:00] <Nosferath> 52% completed
[02:01] <smartboyhw> Wait, you are installing Ubuntu or Ubuntu Studio now?
[02:02] <Nosferath> Memory test
[02:03] <Nosferath> It says Pass 54%
[02:03] <veric> I have a fresh install of 12.04 can anyone help me get the right packages to get flash and java to work right i have not been able to view any web videos
[02:03] <Nosferath> It's running test number 8, no errors so far
[02:03] <smartboyhw> OK
[02:04] <smartboyhw> veric: You mean Ubuntu Studio?
[02:04] <holstein> veric: if flash doesnt work in a live instance, it wont work.. did you try adding the router?
[02:04] <holstein> veric: everything you are telling me points to a network error
[02:05] <holstein> veric: you can also try #ubuntu or #xubuntu since this is not an ubuntustudio specific issue
[02:05] <veric> yes i put the router in
[02:06] <smartboyhw> holstein: Please keep the guys busy, I need to go for a breakfast and piano lesson:)
[02:06] <holstein> ok.. then try for troubleshooting installing the actual chrome browser
[02:06] <holstein> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[02:06] <holstein> it has its own version of flash that "just works"
[02:07] <holstein> veric: try going to this sight and take a screenshot for me if there are any errors
[02:07] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[02:07] <smartboyhw> *site
[02:07] <holstein> veric: do not install any add ons or extra packages
[02:07] <holstein> veric: just do that in that order as best you can
[02:10] <Nosferath> Test completed, it says no errors
[02:11] <holstein> i would test the hard drive... i would want to know that that is good since the live CD is not using it
[02:11] <holstein> Nosferath: 
[02:11] <Nosferath> Ok
[02:13] <Nosferath> panic occured :/
[02:14] <holstein> yup.. thats why im not sure that the live desktop has showed up in that version you are running
[02:14] <Nosferath> but I actually saw a desktop and all
[02:15] <holstein> sure.. and that can happen when a part is failing
[02:15] <holstein> Nosferath: was it with that *same* cd ?
[02:15] <Nosferath> uh, yup
[02:16] <holstein> anyways.. thats not constructive.. fact is, you can reboot and tap shift.. you'll see a list of options
[02:16] <holstein> at the botton, under F6, you can add arguments there
[02:16] <holstein> with older hardware, i'll literally just trial and error try all of them
[02:16] <Nosferath> what if I format the drive with gparted?
[02:17] <holstein> Nosferath: go for it
[02:17] <Nosferath> ok
[02:17] <Nosferath> lemme try to find the dvd
[02:17] <holstein> Nosferath: that wont effect the booting of that live CD
[02:17] <holstein> Nosferath: that hard drive can be unplugged and you should have gotten the same kernel panic
[02:17] <Nosferath> :/ what is it then
[02:17] <holstein> i would unplug anything uncessesary.. anything USB
[02:17] <Nosferath> My old pc may be old, but not THAT old
[02:18] <holstein> i would look in the bios,.. maybe disable some things unused
[02:18] <Nosferath> I'm not going to unplug anything
[02:18] <holstein> Nosferath: ?
[02:18] <Nosferath> just boot using gparted live and formatting the drive
[02:18] <holstein> you are not going to take my suggestion to unplug some USB devices?
[02:18] <Nosferath> It has no usb devices
[02:18] <Nosferath> as it hasn't been used for some time
[02:18] <holstein> OK.. then what are you not going to do that im suggesting to you?
[02:19] <Nosferath> It has a screen, a mouse and a keyboard
[02:19] <holstein> i just want to be clear on the point in which i start wasting my time
[02:19] <holstein> Nosferath: if it were my machine, i would disable some unwanted things from the bios
[02:20] <holstein> Nosferath: sometimes hardware gets taken out of the kernel.. hardware support
[02:20] <Nosferath> So, what exactly should I do?
[02:20] <holstein> we release every 6 months.. even a 4 year old computer is several kernels ago
[02:20] <holstein> Nosferath: i would troubleshoot
[02:20] <holstein> i can make suggestions
[02:20] <Nosferath> ok
[02:20] <holstein> if its been setting around, you never really know
[02:22] <holstein> sometimes, with older boxes, i try older versions of linux
[02:22] <holstein> i usually have puppy linux, knoppix and the latest ubuntu LTS and the last one
[02:22] <holstein> sometimes i just go with the path of least resistance.. if i just want ubuntu install and ubuntu 10.04 "just works".. i'll use it
[02:23] <Nosferath> Well, I'm new with linux and all that stuff
[02:23] <Nosferath> The closest to linux I've ever been is my android phone
[02:23] <holstein> cool.. live CD's are handy for diagnostics
[02:23] <holstein> they dont do anything to the current machine setup, and you learn about how a kernel can support the hardware
[02:24] <holstein> 10.04 has a totally different kernel than 12.04, and can support some "legacy" hardware that 12.04 wont out-of-the-box
[02:24] <Nosferath> hmm, I couldn't find my gparted dvd, if needed, I could burn another one, I still got the disc image
[02:24] <holstein> gparted should be tiny.. a little CD image
[02:24] <holstein> you can use gparted form any live CD you can get to boot on the hardware
[02:24] <Nosferath> Oh, also, I'm trying with 32 bits ubuntu
[02:24] <holstein> sure... 32 is fine
[02:25] <holstein> i only have a few 64bit installs
[02:27] <Nosferath> So, what should I do?
[02:27] <holstein> Nosferath: if it were my machine i would troubleshoot it.. i would remove variables.. i would try 12.04 and 10.04 live
[02:27] <holstein> Nosferath: you should do what you feel comfortable doing
[02:28] <holstein> if there is a hardware problem and its old.. it could be a waste of time and money to repair it
[02:28] <holstein> if you are into DIY, and handy, it could be a fun learning project
[02:28] <Nosferath> So instead of 12.04.01, just 12.04?
[02:28] <holstein> Nosferath: 10.04
[02:28] <Nosferath> oh, 10
[02:28] <holstein> the last LTS... i try that one too because it has a different and older kernel
[02:28] <Nosferath> Those are Ubuntu Studio versions, or just Ubuntu?
[02:29] <holstein> Nosferath: i would do ubuntu 10.04
[02:29] <holstein> the download is smaller
[02:29] <holstein> if you want ubuntustudio you can add that later
[02:29] <holstein> you dont have *anything* now, so i would keep it simple
[02:29] <Nosferath> Okay
[02:30] <Nosferath> I'll continue tomorrow, got to go to bed
[02:30] <holstein> sure.. enjoy!
[02:30] <Nosferath> I'll need instructions on that, as I said, I don't know anything about adding features in Linux
[02:32] <holstein> Nosferath: sure.. but you have nothing to add anything to now
[02:32] <holstein> so, i suggest keeping it simple
[02:32] <Nosferath> I know
[02:32] <Nosferath> Okay
[02:32] <Nosferath> Many thanks for the help
[02:32] <holstein> if you want ubuntustudio 10.04, go for it
[02:32] <Nosferath> I'll be back tomorrow same time
[02:32] <holstein> cool!
[02:32] <Nosferath> Bubai
[02:32] <holstein> i wont be here til late tomorrow
[04:29] <lwizardl> hello
[04:29] <lwizardl> anyone awake ?
[05:34] <smartboyhw> lwizardl: Hi
[05:38] <smartboyhw> lwizardl, Are you here?
[06:22] <lwizardl> I am looking for information on making sounds etc for 8bit and 16bit
[06:23] <smartboyhw> OK
[06:23] <smartboyhw> making sounds? You mean installing the sound card or?
[06:25] <lwizardl> no like recording custom sounds etc
[06:25] <smartboyhw> ?
[06:25] <smartboyhw> Please tell it more specifically.
[06:26] <lwizardl> door buzzer, car horn, etc etc
[06:27] <lwizardl> the actual sounds not just a configure of the card
[06:27] <smartboyhw> Well, download the software
[06:32] <smartboyhw> ..
[06:57] <drupin> i am not able to boot fm pendrive ... i used to burn the flash drive with pendrive linux
[06:59] <smartboyhw> Why? Use unetbootin then
[07:29] <drupin> ok let me try
[07:30] <drupin> but i dont want a to check out
[07:30] <drupin> i want to install inside the pendrive
[07:30] <drupin> smartboyhw:
[07:30] <smartboyhw> Ok.
[07:30] <drupin> thass the reason i used pendivelinux
[07:31] <drupin> does it needs space to load
[07:31] <smartboyhw> Wait, you mean you want to have Ubuntu Studio INSTALLED INSIDE your USB instead of live?
[07:31] <drupin> on c: drive
[07:31] <smartboyhw> ???/
[07:31] <drupin> yes true install on pendrive
[07:31] <smartboyhw> Uh...
[07:31] <drupin> instead of live
[07:31] <smartboyhw> Wait then
[07:31] <drupin> ok
[07:32] <smartboyhw> Do you have a blank DVD or a rewritable one/
[07:32] <drupin> no DVD... i have as the DVD writer drive is broken
[07:32] <drupin> have 8 GB flash drive
[07:33] <smartboyhw> wait, so you have a 8GB drive ONLY am I right?
[07:34] <drupin> yes 8GB pendrive but i am on Windows7 now
[07:34] <smartboyhw> Hmm now that's a problem
[07:34] <drupin> how?
[07:35] <smartboyhw> Wait
[07:35] <drupin> ok smartboyhw
[07:35] <smartboyhw> Why don't you just dual-boot it?
[07:36] <drupin> i dont want to install on HDD as i can take this with me wherever i go
[07:36] <drupin> i am always on the move
[07:36] <smartboyhw> Oh god, if you don't even have a DVD then it's SUPER difficult
[07:37] <drupin> but why is DVD needed when i have pendrive
[07:37] <smartboyhw> Wait, do you mean http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[07:37] <smartboyhw> And you just can't boot it now?
[07:38] <drupin> yes i did that... do you want me tell the exact .... it says something cannot mount
[07:38] <smartboyhw> You mean in Windows 7 that it just can't find the drive?
[07:39] <drupin> let me boot again
[07:39] <drupin> and tell you the error
[07:39] <drupin> ok brb
[07:39] <smartboyhw> ok brb
[07:40] <drupin> i cant even take a snapshot as it is in start up
[07:40] <drupin> let me see if i can take a pic fm mobile
[07:40] <drupin> ok brb
[07:54] <smartboyhw> drupin: How is the progress now?
[07:54] <drupin> not yet booted
[07:54] <drupin> i am charging my other mobile to take a snapshot
[07:54] <drupin> of the black screen
[07:55] <drupin> will update
[07:58] <drupin> ok brb
[08:05] <smartboyhw> OK. I will wait
[08:57] <smartboyhw> drupin: How's your progress?
[11:12] <tristanStrange> just checking before I push on any further. Is vgaswitcheroo known to work on ubuntuStudio 12.04?
[11:12] <smartboyhw> Dunno
[14:23] <drupin> smartboyhw, hello
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Hello
[14:24] <smartboyhw> Hello drupin
[14:24] <holstein> drupin: i would just get an ubuntu iso, and install using the USB drive as the destination for the install
[14:24] <holstein> i would put grub right on the USB stick
[14:24] <smartboyhw> Yep.
[14:25] <holstein> the end result will be basically the same in this regard.. it will be "linux on a stick" that you select from the bios to boot
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Then just install the ubuntustudio packages:)
[14:25] <holstein> the difference will be, it has a normal file system and users... and for all intentes and purposes, its a full linux install
[14:25] <holstein> yeah, you can use whatever iso you choose... ubuntustudio, xubuntu... some other distro
[14:26] <smartboyhw> yeah yeah yeah, thanks holstein:)
[14:26] <drupin> i did something else
[14:26] <drupin> with virtual box
[14:27] <drupin> but i guess its not saving the data on the pendrive
[14:27] <drupin> also in my PC is 32 bit
[14:27] <drupin> but its only accepting the 64 bit kernal
[14:27] <smartboyhw> drupin: What?
[14:28] <holstein> i would not expect ubuntustudio to benifit from being virtualized
[14:28] <smartboyhw> Yeah
[14:29] <holstein> you can look at it and use it, but audio performance will be poor at best
[14:29] <drupin> yes its not saving data insite the flash
[14:29] <smartboyhw> It's difficult, and it needs at least 2 GB. No good in audio:)
[14:29] <smartboyhw> I mean RAM
[14:29] <drupin> ok
[14:29] <holstein> i just install.. i do normal installs for persistent USB
[14:29] <drupin> holstein, plz tell me the grub procedure above
[14:29] <drupin> i will remove this virtual
[14:30] <holstein> drupin: i always reference
[14:30] <holstein> !grub | drupin
[14:30] <holstein> you can use one of the alternate installers and select where you want to put grub, which can be on any drive/partition or no where
[14:30] <drupin> i will put grub on the pendrive
[14:33] <drupin> ok brb
[19:00] <holstein> Unit193: are you busy?
[19:00] <Unit193> holstein: Trying to get my head back, why?
[19:01] <holstein> i was wondering if youd go over something with someone... a flash player issue
[19:01] <holstein> ive hit the wall, and im about to ask about graphics drivers, though i cant imagine that would matter
[19:01] <holstein> you got a few minutes to just go through and make sure i havent missed anything?
[19:01] <Unit193> Could try, but flash is never fun to do even though I haven't had many issues.
[19:01] <Unit193> What plugin from the repo?
[19:01] <holstein> i know.. it just sux in general.. something for school im told
[19:02] <holstein> veric: ok.. bring it back in here please
[19:02] <holstein> Unit193: i had veric install chrome on 32bit ubuntu 12.04
[19:02] <holstein> Unit193: it *didnt* have or use the flash player somehow
[19:02] <holstein> quite odd
[19:03] <holstein> last night, i suggested sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and trying again from several browsers
[19:03] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/226620
[19:03] <holstein> is the result.. crashing flash
[19:03] <Unit193> If it is flashplugin-installer, I'd purge that and get adobe-flashplugin, noticed a couple differences, but not really anything major.
[19:03] <holstein> there are proprietary drivers available
[19:04] <holstein> for example http://imagebin.org/226621
[19:04] <holstein> Unit193: i also suggested just ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:04] <holstein> thinking that would just cover it all
[19:05] <holstein> anyways.. i think the next thing veric is to make sure you have the package Unit193 is suggesting
[19:05] <holstein> and try a proprietary graphics driver from that list
[19:05] <Unit193> Yes, but if partner isn't enabled it goes for installer.
[19:05] <holstein> Unit193: likely not
[19:05] <Unit193> Hardware rendering?
[19:05] <holstein> Unit193: supposed to be a fresh install
[19:05] <holstein> anyways.. that there is already a good idea Unit193
[19:06] <Unit193> drc had it, don't remember how...
[19:07] <Unit193> chrome not pulling it in is very odd, not sure if I'd purge, delete deb cache and reinstall or not.
[19:07] <holstein> i know, right?
[19:08] <holstein> i think it was just not loading or working or whatever... i confirmed 32bit from uname -a
[19:09] <Unit193> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1127489 Could modify the setup of that, getting the 32 deb.
[19:10] <holstein> i like making sure the proper flash is there and trying the proprietary driver
[19:11] <veric> ok i will start with this If it is flashplugin-installer, I'd purge that and get adobe-flashplugin, noticed a couple differences, but not really anything major.
[19:11] <Unit193> file /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepperflashplayer.so ?
[19:14] <drupin> m back
[19:14] <Unit193> Howdy.
[19:15] <drupin> i have now booted fm the pendrive
[19:15] <drupin> but m not able the store any data in this
[19:16] <Unit193> Did you make a persistent one following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence ?
[19:18] <drupin> no
[19:18] <drupin> let me tell
[19:31] <veric>  sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin returns http://imagebin.org/226624
[19:33] <Unit193> !partner |Need this repo.
[19:37] <veric> ran ((sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner")) and had no response
[19:38] <Unit193> Then should   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[19:44] <veric> installed no errors i opened http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ received same errors http://imagebin.org/226620
[19:50] <Nosferath> Hey, holstein, are you there?
[19:51] <drupin> soory i am lost
[19:51] <drupin> i need reboot and find out and tell
[19:52] <drupin> but unit it was persistent
[19:54] <holstein> Nosferath: im back
[19:54] <holstein> drupin: i would literally just do an actual ubuntu install to the USB
[19:55] <holstein> veric: did you install the proprietary graphics driver?
[19:55] <veric> yes i did then i redooted
[19:55] <holstein> veric: and?
[19:56] <veric> installed like unit said had no errors on the install i opened http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ received same errors http://imagebin.org/226620
[19:57] <holstein> veric: you installe the proprietary graphics driver as well?
[19:57] <veric> yes before following units steps
[19:57] <holstein> ok.. so you are using an nvidia proprietary graphics driver? and in chrome you are getting those errors?
[19:58] <veric> yes
[19:58] <Nosferath> I'm having a problem with my pc not related to ubuntu, so I'm trying to fix it
[19:58] <Nosferath> It's having a hard time recognizing ide drives
[19:58] <holstein> Nosferath: sounds like a failing drive
[19:59] <Nosferath> yup
[19:59] <Nosferath> maybe it's that
[20:00] <holstein> veric: please open chrome.. in the URL bar type "about:plugins"
[20:01] <holstein> hit the + by the details and scroll to "flash" entries and get me a ss of as much of it as you can
[20:02] <drupin> ok Unit193 its this tool .... http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[20:02] <drupin> m on windows now
[20:03] <holstein> i would use a CD or a usb stick with the iso added using something like unetbootin
[20:04] <holstein> i would install to the USB stick from that cd or usb stick i made
[20:04] <veric> hers the ss http://imagebin.org/226626
[20:04] <veric> its not the latest version
[20:05] <holstein> sure, but that doesnt matter
[20:05] <veric> ok
[20:05] <holstein> not sure why you arent getting it
[20:05] <holstein> i did.. i ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and i have the latest flash in chrom
[20:05] <holstein> 32bit
[20:05] <holstein> why dont you?
[20:06] <holstein> why is everything seemingly crashing flash on your box?
[20:09] <veric> im good on windows  but everything i know hasent worked i tried for 2 day then i came here to find help im out of ideas
[20:09] <holstein> veric: try running those commands again
[20:09] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[20:09] <veric> i am
[20:10] <holstein> go to the "wrench" in chrome and whats the version?
[20:10] <holstein> Version 21.0.1180.57 is mine
[20:10] <veric> do i keep running till i get no more gets?
[20:10] <holstein> veric: ?
[20:11] <holstein> sudo apt-get update.. should run and report no errors
[20:11] <holstein> should get back to the $
[20:11] <holstein> then, you run sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:11] <veric> no errors but every time i run it shows some gets
[20:12] <holstein> some gets?
[20:12] <holstein> it'll check the repos for new packages each time
[20:12] <veric> Get:
[20:13] <veric> yes  do i run it till they all say Hit or ign
[20:14] <holstein> yup
[20:15] <veric> i seen in a form you could add google repos do i need that?
[20:15] <holstein> should have happened when you installed using the .deb i linked to you
[20:16] <veric> ok
[20:16] <holstein> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[20:17] <holstein> regardless, you dont have the latest version
[20:17] <holstein> not sure why
[20:17] <holstein> and you are crashing flash with anything flash you click on
[20:17] <holstein> why is that?
[20:17] <holstein> veric: have you used the normal ubuntu CD?
[20:18] <veric> normal? i dl off ubuntu wedsite and burned an iso
[20:19] <holstein> veric: ubuntu? or ubuntustudio?
[20:19] <veric> ubuntu
[20:19] <holstein> ok... im not sure what to tell you... i would hit the main mailing list
[20:19] <holstein> i would try #ubuntu-beginners
[20:20] <holstein> i would try whatever it takes to get chrome to update
[20:20] <holstein> i would make a new user and try
[20:20] <holstein> let me try and think of who else to try...
[20:21] <veric> apt-get upgrade returns Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] ---Get:2 http://dl.google.com stable Release    ---Get:3 http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages [1,244 B] every time Fetched 2,789 B in 2s (1,050 B/s) like it is not updateing those files
[20:22] <veric> tried a new user already with the same results
[20:26] <holstein> ok..
[20:26] <holstein> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[20:26] <holstein> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:32] <veric> that said all was good
[20:34] <holstein> double check in chrome that it is up to date
[20:35] <veric> no change in chrome
[20:36] <holstein> veric: so its not updating
[20:36] <holstein> veric: not sure what it is.. you are not getting upates
[20:36] <holstein> veric: thats just one thing im noticing
[20:36] <holstein> im not saying that is the issue.. im just saying you arent getting updates
[20:36] <veric> i agree
[20:37] <veric> how about making sure google repo are there
[20:37] <holstein> sure..
[20:37] <veric> ok how do i do that the right way
[20:38] <holstein> i would just look at the sources.. you can do it in synaptic
[20:43] <veric> search for sources google?
[20:43] <holstein> veric: i would literally just open the sources file or sources in a GUI and see whats there.. should be obvious
[20:44] <holstein> or just try adding the one i linked earlier
[20:44] <holstein> veric: what brings you to #ubuntustudio?
[20:45] <holstein> lots of folks have good luck at askubuntu
[20:45] <veric> #ubuntu was no help
[20:46] <veric> searcherd in chanel list for ubuntu help and #ubuntustudio showed up
[20:46] <holstein> sure, but it is help for ubuntustudio typically
[20:47] <holstein> i would try #ubuntu-beginners and askubuntu
[20:47] <holstein> i'm not kicking you out, but i have been assuming you were running XFCE
[20:47] <holstein> we could pop over to #ubuntu-beginners and continue there though
[20:48] <holstein> i think that would be more appropriate
[20:48] <Nosferath> Hey, I'm checking disk now, remember it didn't work yesterday?
[20:48] <holstein> veric: what iso did you download? are you sure it was a stable 12.04?
[20:48] <veric> that would work just looking for someone to help
[20:48] <Nosferath> Well, I unplugged and replugged the drive, and now it seems to work.
[20:49] <holstein> veric: im thinking if i were you, i would try a different installer disc
[20:49] <veric> pierty sure how can i check
[20:49] <holstein> Nosferath: i had a bad IDE cable once that acted like that
[20:50] <veric> found it in details yes its ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:50] <holstein> veric: yes, but what iso did you download and burn? if you havent tested that , i would
[21:38] <Nosferath> UbuntuStudio is installing
[21:38] <Nosferath> No problems so far
[21:38] <Nosferath> The drive was not well connected it seems
[21:39] <holstein> sure.. or a bad cable.. or motherboard thats "on the way out"
[21:40] <Nosferath> OLOLO
[21:40] <Nosferath> Anyways, it's almost done installing
[21:40] <Nosferath> I'll have to get a wi-fi receiver for that pc
[21:41] <holstein> cool!.. hopefully thats all there is to it!
[21:41] <holstein> enjoy!
[21:43] <Nosferath> Thanks ^^
[21:43] <Nosferath> I'll have to check each program to see what they do
[21:52] <Nosferath> Perfect!
[21:52] <Nosferath> It's installed and running
[21:52] <Nosferath> g2g
[21:52] <Nosferath> I'll be back at night
[21:52] <Nosferath> I'll tell you how is it going
[21:53] <Unit193> holstein: Sorry mate, it turn out well? (LiLo, good tool.)
[22:05] <drupin> is there a way i can do this with any program from windows.... http://bit.ly/T3PQuF
[22:32] <holstein> drupin: unetbootin is available for windows
[22:32] <holstein> you make a bootable live USB and install to another USB stick
[22:32] <drupin> ok i thought so
[22:32] <holstein> virtualbox is available for windows
[22:33] <drupin> i will need one more flash the
[22:33] <drupin> then*
[22:33] <holstein> drupin: or a CD..
[22:34] <drupin> no my DVD writer is broken
[22:34] <drupin> i have more flashes
[22:34] <holstein> enjoy!
[22:34] <drupin> is there some thing i can do the way done with virtual box
[22:34] <tech1> my new pc dosnt even have an optical drive
[22:35] <drupin> ic
[22:35] <tech1> usb or net :)
[22:35] <TheMaster> tech1: Oi, USB I hope! :P
[22:35] <tech1> yeh
[22:35] <holstein> drupin: i would use 2 usb sticks.. thats easy
[22:36] <drupin> i guess i can use this virtual box to install the ISO on the flash
[22:36] <holstein> or unetbootin from windows
[22:37] <drupin> but unet boot in will be live image
[22:37] <drupin> not a hdd install
[22:37] <holstein> drupin: unetbootin will intall the iso on the flash, like you are proposing with virtualbox
[22:37] <holstein> just much easier
[22:38] <drupin> ok let me try
[22:38] <drupin> brb
[22:38] <drupin> guys when you people rest