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| phoenix_firebrd | Is network broken in Kubuntu 12.10? | 07:21 |
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| ripps | what do i need to remove to convert my ubuntu into pure gnomebuntu? | 07:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ripps: remove the kde-runtime and it will remove all the kde stuff with it | 07:29 |
| ripps | that not what I meant, ubunt-gnome-desktop dropped in the repos for pure-gnome without unity. I want to know what to remove to get a pure ubuntu gnome edition | 08:28 |
| Walther | Is there a way to disable bluetooth by default on startup? | 08:39 |
| Walther | Running powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle) | 08:43 |
| ironhalik | so, is nvidia-current package solid by now? :) | 09:43 |
| WarOfTheNerd | ironhalik, wasn't working when I tried Alpha3 | 09:58 |
| * WarOfTheNerd has Software Centre purchases though, and those don't integrate until release, so can't test anymore :( | 09:58 | |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:16 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 12:25 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Hey - don't do that - it tickles! | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | well, i manged to get you to use my real nick didn't I ...instaed of burger king (BK) , penguin42 | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | :) | 12:49 |
| * penguin42 flame grills BluesKaj | 12:49 | |
| yofel_ | ironhalik: nvidia works fine for me now | 13:44 |
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| BluesKaj | yofel, i had some segfaults yesterday with kde apps like kate and even the bug reporter . but all seems better now after reinstalling the nvidia-current driver | 13:52 |
| yofel | odd | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , and the backtrace didn't show much ' | 14:03 |
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| h00k | my compiz is still quite crashy | 16:29 |
| penguin42 | hmm not good, todays server image won't boot after install | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | 2nd try worked - hmm | 17:23 |
| penguin42 | hmm, repeatable | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | installed kdm and at least now i can login with the gui , lightdm wasn't giving me a login page so i had to use the tty ...still few bugs to fix in that area | 18:09 |
| BluesKaj | on kde here | 18:10 |
| trism | with lightdm-kde-greeter? | 18:10 |
| BluesKaj | trism, yes the lightdm greeter was installed with lightdm , noe I get the old fashioned but working kdm greeter | 18:24 |
| BluesKaj | noe=now | 18:24 |
| h00k | my compiz is much better today | 18:36 |
| htorque | hi all! i got some problems making unity work: i took part in the gconf-less unity/compiz test with the ppa. worked fine except for one crasher bug, but once regular updates came in, i can no longer start unity. | 18:37 |
| htorque | just getting "compizconfig - Error: NULL encountered while reading GConf setting" - any ideas? | 18:37 |
| ironhalik | uninstalling nvidia-current reverts to nouveau? | 18:38 |
| h00k | ironhalik: it should, yes | 18:38 |
| ironhalik | ok, lets hope I wont need it | 18:39 |
| ironhalik | ah, and btw | 18:39 |
| ironhalik | whats the difference between nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates? | 18:39 |
| ironhalik | I understand there are additional ubuntu patches in the latter? | 18:39 |
| penguin42 | I think it tends to be different versions from Nvidia doesn't it? | 18:40 |
| ironhalik | post release updates maybe? | 18:41 |
| ironhalik | ah nvm, Ill go with nvidia-current | 18:41 |
| ironhalik | thanks | 18:41 |
| omichalek | hi all, my system gets stuck in the middle of shutting down, can you help me what log to look into? | 18:46 |
| omichalek | when I jump from the graphical screen it says "fontconfig warning: etc/fonts/conf.d..." among other things, but I suppose that's not holding it, right? | 18:49 |
| jtaylor | the fontconfig warnings should not cause the shutdown issue | 18:50 |
| omichalek | jtaylor: dmesg is relevant only for the current session, am I right? | 18:51 |
| jtaylor | omichalek: yes, but some of the logs in /var/log not | 18:53 |
| omichalek | jtaylor: cat /var/log/syslog is pretty long, should I dig in there? | 18:54 |
| jtaylor | yes thats probably a good place to start | 18:54 |
| ironhalik | is it the changes in unity or am I on unity-2d after installing nvidia-current | 18:59 |
| gotwig | ironhalik: ĺol? | 19:03 |
| gotwig | ironhalik: not normal | 19:03 |
| ironhalik | the dash got somewhat darker, like in unity 2d | 19:03 |
| ironhalik | ok, I guess not - I uninstalled unity-2d :P | 19:05 |
| trism | ironhalik: unity-2d is just an empty package now anyway | 19:06 |
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| scarrs | I cannot get the virtual desktops to work in gnome classic or cairo dock sessions, is this a known bug? | 20:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | Virtual desktops or workspaces? | 20:34 |
| kypor | hello. Just set up Ubuntu 12.10. Is there a way to install the ATI driver? | 22:02 |
| LLStarks | any way to get rid of the fontconfig errors? | 22:32 |
| jbicha | LLStarks: basically just wait until bug 1034928 is fixed | 22:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1034928 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Fontconfig warning: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not works as expected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034928 | 22:37 |
| penguin42 | other than being annoying it doesn't seem to have any other effects; although a few people are misreporting hangs with the fontconfig because it's the last thing visible before it dies | 22:41 |
| kypor | hello. Just set up Ubuntu 12.10. Is there a way to install the ATI driver? | 22:47 |
| WarOfTheNerd | kypor, you'll have to use ATI's installer | 22:50 |
| WarOfTheNerd | kypor, with all the alphas there usually aren't any up to date proprietary drivers packaged | 22:50 |
| WarOfTheNerd | kypor, in fact, NVIDIA still haven't caught up with 12.10's Xorg version yet | 22:50 |
| kypor | I see ... will that mess up things in the long run though? | 22:51 |
| penguin42 | it'll sort itself out | 22:51 |
| penguin42 | kypor: Out of interest, how are the open ati drivers working for you - the ones that you get if you don't install the ATI ones? | 22:51 |
| kypor | they are fine for sure. I wanted to see how a game in Steam will play out though. I want to try the prop driver with wine/steam/Civ5 basically | 22:52 |
| Daekdroom | !daily | 22:52 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 22:52 |
| Daekdroom | Has anyone had any issue with dailies lately? | 22:53 |
| Daekdroom | I'm thinking of reinstalling Quantal. | 22:53 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: The one I installed last week didn't install unity by default; the server iso seems OK this week (although it has a problem with graphics in VMs sometimes) | 22:53 |
| Daekdroom | I think I'll do it the safer way and download the Alpha3 iso | 22:55 |
| Daekdroom | Now to the backup process! | 22:55 |
| dlentz | hi penguin42 | 22:56 |
| penguin42 | hi | 22:57 |
| dlentz | bug 1044725 | 22:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1044725 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "Additional Drivers is empty for nvidia" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044725 | 22:57 |
| dlentz | Can this bug be marked as Triaged/High since it severely impacts users? | 22:58 |
| WarOfTheNerd | dlentz, it's blocked by upstream | 22:58 |
| dlentz | okay | 22:59 |
| dlentz | thanks for your time/attention | 23:00 |
| trism | well, nvidia-current is updated for abi 13 since last week, so the detection scripts may just need updating | 23:01 |
| penguin42 | dlentz: This stuff normally works out by release | 23:01 |
| * penguin42 is interested how well the open drivers work for people these days - as an ATI user who always uses the open drivers I'm happy, but I'm not a gamer and my card doesn't have a fan | 23:02 | |
| dlentz | penguin42, one would hope so... | 23:02 |
| penguin42 | dlentz: So, how far does the open nvidia driver get for you on your card? | 23:03 |
| dlentz | i'm just the triager, i use radeon driver myself ;) | 23:04 |
| penguin42 | haha ok | 23:04 |
| penguin42 | WarOfTheNerd: Do you know if there is a reference bug for the nvidia stuff? | 23:05 |
| Daekdroom | penguin42, it still doesn't work for HD7xxx cards, iirc | 23:06 |
| Daekdroom | (unless they're rebrands) | 23:06 |
| Daekdroom | and the powermanagement is still crap. | 23:06 |
| Daekdroom | dynamic clock/voltage adjustments still cause screen flicker so it's disabled by default. | 23:06 |
| Daekdroom | and even when enabled it doesn't save power/drop temperature as much as Catalyst or the Windows drivers.... It makes me sad :( | 23:07 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: :-( | 23:08 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Yeh they're normally one rev behind, so it doesn't surprise me about the 7xxx - and that explains why the stuff is disabled by default, which is annoying | 23:08 |
| Daekdroom | There's the anecdote by the AMD developers that Catalyst's powermanagement has more code than the entire open source stack. | 23:08 |
| trism | penguin42: he may be thinking bug 1037896 which is why abi 13 was briefly removed, but that was fixed with 304.43 | 23:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1037896 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Quantal) "Starting Firefox kills xserver immediately when using 2D desktop" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037896 | 23:09 |
| penguin42 | power management is evil stuff | 23:09 |
| LLStarks | thanks jbicha | 23:11 |
| LLStarks | btw, if it's any interest to the desktop team, 12.10 now has 97% of needed prime code for optimus laptops. all that's missing is the intel ddx, nouveau ddx, and xrandr 1.4 tool | 23:12 |
| penguin42 | is that code out there that could go in? | 23:13 |
| Daekdroom | I think it's too late for them to include all that code. | 23:13 |
| Daekdroom | And I suspect part of that code is not even in a stable release yet. | 23:14 |
| Daekdroom | !schedule | 23:14 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule | 23:14 |
| LLStarks | Daekdroom, prime needs to be ported to sna. it's uxa only at the moment. | 23:15 |
| LLStarks | that's a 13.04 target | 23:15 |
| penguin42 | rabid rodent? | 23:15 |
| LLStarks | as is nvidia blob support for prime | 23:15 |
| LLStarks | penguin42, raging rhesus | 23:17 |
| Daekdroom | restless rabbit | 23:18 |
| Daekdroom | It is best to burn my Quantal DVD-R using the slowest speed possible, right? | 23:30 |
| histo | It's best to burn it without errors | 23:30 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Why are you burning it - use a thumb drive | 23:30 |
| Daekdroom | penguin42, .... I still don't have a thumb drive. | 23:30 |
| Daekdroom | and I have no idea why. | 23:31 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Slap yourself on the head - hard | 23:31 |
| * Daekdroom slaps himself lightly, but 4 times | 23:31 | |
| penguin42 | hmm | 23:32 |
| Daekdroom | Well, I do some spare cash that I can do whatever I want to with. | 23:32 |
| Daekdroom | Buying a decent thumb drive is an option. | 23:32 |
| Daekdroom | But I don't feel like aborting my reinstalling plans for tonight. | 23:32 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: I'd say just notch it down one from the top speed supported by the drive and media | 23:33 |
| Daekdroom | Hm, kk. | 23:33 |
| penguin42 | but it only takes one failure to remind you that you should be using a thumb drive | 23:34 |
| Daekdroom | I have a total of 4 DVD-Rs to ruin. | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | ah, should only take 5 goes then :-) | 23:34 |
| Daekdroom | Considering how many Ubuntu CDs/DVDs I have burnt, a thumb drive might have paid itself by now. | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | they're ludicrously cheap now anyway | 23:35 |
| Daekdroom | How much is a 16GiB thumb drive in the US? | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | in the UK it's under 10GBP now | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | hmm, 6.25 apparently :-) | 23:37 |
| Daekdroom | That would be about 20 BRL | 23:37 |
| trism | looks like ~$10 in US | 23:37 |
| Daekdroom | But according to the website I'm looking at, they cost twice as much here in Brazil. | 23:38 |
| Daekdroom | :( | 23:38 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: They've dropped a lot recently, so makesure you use somewhere competitive and there is a big range | 23:38 |
| * penguin42 gently wonders if they have Amazon in Brazil, but that would be kind of silly.... | 23:38 | |
| Daekdroom | Amazon does ship to here in Brazil, but I once tried to buy a headphone and the shipment was like 40 dollars. | 23:39 |
| Daekdroom | So buying something so cheap is out of question. | 23:39 |
| penguin42 | hmm, I'm kind of surprised, even to us here in the UK it's obvious there is a big tech community in Brazil | 23:40 |
| Daekdroom | It's not a small market for these products. It's about huge taxes on them and stratospheric profits | 23:41 |
| Daekdroom | Well, I'll dig for a thumbdrive later. Time for reinstall. | 23:42 |
| Daekdroom | See ya later. | 23:42 |
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