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nady_?00:43
holstein!hi | nady_00:58
ubot2`Factoid 'hi' not found00:58
holstein!hello | nady_00:58
ubot2`Factoid 'hello' not found00:58
holsteinnady_: welcome!00:58
VericIf the MD5SUM dose not match that means it was a bad DL?03:21
TheMasterAs long as you are checking the right file, pretty much.03:21
VericWhat causes that bad conection? I Dl 12.04 from  Unbuntu03:22
TheMasterI'd recommend since you downloaded the file, try using zsync to just git the different bits.03:23
TheMaster!zsync03:23
ubot2`Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage03:23
Vericok will do. thx that will help03:24
TheMasterCould also try a torrent, those tend to be pretty good.03:25
histoWished every server used zsync04:27
lukjad_Hi guys13:03
lukjad_I seem to have messed up my GRUB partition13:04
lukjad_I ran fdisk -l to get my drives so I can recreate them13:04
lukjad_Following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101470813:04
lukjad_But I'm unsure which of my five partitions I should use.13:05
Sidewinder1lukjad, I'm by no means a grub expert, but have you tried sudo update grub?13:05
lukjad_I'm running off a live CD 10.10, That command does not seem to work13:06
lukjad_Also, I had a / partition and a /home partition13:07
lukjad_So I'm unsure which I should pick to install grub to13:08
Sidewinder1Again, no expert, but there should be a way to 'install grub' from the live cd. Either way, if no one else answers here, you might try the main support channel at #ubuntu. Just type /join #ubuntu.13:08
lukjad_Sidewinder1, Well, I tried that, it says one was generated13:09
Sidewinder1There' 1557 people there, now. :-)13:09
lukjad_I guess I can try a reboot.13:09
Sidewinder1Yes, try that and if 'no joy', try in #ubuntu..13:10
lukjad_I was just panicking because all my live CDs that weren't ubuntu refused to boot13:10
lukjad_Sidewinder1, Hopefully I'll see you as lukjad next time!13:11
* lukjad_ goes for a reboot13:11
lukjadAaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!13:14
lukjadSidewinder1 THANK YOU! :D13:14
Sidewinder1!yay13:14
ubot2`Glad you made it! :-)13:14
lukjadSidewinder1 I want to do something for you13:14
lukjadDo you know what the Humble Indie Bundle is?13:14
Sidewinder1My pleasure; though I'm not exactly sure how I helped.. :-/13:14
lukjadSidewinder1 ^13:16
Sidewinder1lukjad, I'm not much of a gamer and, I have all of the music that I need/want; but thanx for offering. :-)13:16
lukjadAw, okay then. :)13:16
lukjadSo you don't want the music bundle then?13:17
Sidewinder1I could use a new aircraft, though. ;-)13:17
lukjadSorry, fresh out of those.13:17
Sidewinder1I particularly like the Cessna 310, prior to the "Q" model..13:17
Sidewinder1Heh,.13:18
Sidewinder1Just kidding; I'm glad that you're enjoying ubuntu. :)13:18
lukjadYes, I have been a casual user (heh, that sound illegal) for some time now. My brain tends to shut down when it's my own PC though.13:19
lukjadMainly because I don't have any backups so am running off live CDs, and you know how fun that is.13:19
Sidewinder1A little slow..13:21
lukjadSidewinder1 Oh, and I couldn't find any that worked13:22
lukjadSlax, TEENpup, all of them refused to boot13:23
Sidewinder1lukjad, Do you md5sum your ISOs?13:23
lukjadI do, and they used to work too13:23
lukjadIt seems they were detecting something on the HD and didn't like it13:23
Sidewinder1Hmm..13:23
Sidewinder1Do you burn your CDs at the SLOWEST speed?13:24
lukjadNot really, I burn them on Audo13:24
lukjadauto13:24
Sidewinder1That might be your problem. Think about it, a misplaced bit or two in an mp3 or an avi means little; however an entire operating system? See what I mean?13:26
lukjadYah, I guess so13:26
lukjad4x it is13:26
Sidewinder1Just select the slowest; it takes longer but you're then relatively certain that you've got 'a good burn.'13:28
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
DruxHi, is anyone here?15:00
holsteinDrux: lots of folks in and out all the time.. ask if you have a question, and welcome!15:01
DruxOh alright.  I was thinking about making a dual booting system...maybe triple booting.  Win7/Ubuntu/Hackintosh.15:02
holsteinenjoy!15:02
DruxSo...I was wondering if there was  a supported hardware list somewhere?  I was looking at hackintosh stuff and I saw things like 680 nVidia cards...is there something like that here?15:02
holsteini dont waste my time making apple software run on things that its not "allowed" to run on15:02
DruxOkay no worries about the hackintosh, what about the Ubuntu stuff?15:03
holsteinif you are asking about ubuntu compatibility, i would just search by model #15:03
holsteinthese days, most things are supported or supportable15:03
DruxHmmm...so literally google <graphics card> ubuntu compatability?15:04
holsteini typically just get the hardware in front of me, and try a live CD on it.. and learn about how challenging support might be, if its not just working out of the box15:04
holsteinwe have popups that come up and offer to install drivers that are not "allowed" to be included by default15:04
DruxNatively by Ubuntu?15:05
holsteinDrux: ubuntu doesnt make graphics cards15:05
holsteinit would be supported by nvidia natively in ubuntu15:05
DruxYes, I meant there would be a notification saying "Hey we know your graphics card is nateively bundled but here's where you could ask for help or here are the drivers from nVidia"15:06
holsteinwith steam coming to linux, i would expect more and more proper support for graphics cards in the near future15:06
holsteinDrux: there is a notification that says "additional drivers are available"15:06
DruxHahaha, alright.15:06
histoDrux:  For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see15:06
histo │                | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection15:06
holsteinits typically click through a menu and get a driver15:07
holsteini personally like to see the hardware in front of me.. a kerne upgrade can "break" functionality.. so having a list of supported hardware is challening to maintain15:07
holsteinDrux: there is nothing in ubuntu preventing *any* manufacturer from supporting  it with drivers15:08
DruxHmmm...there is quite a lot of support.  I may end up chancing a pc build for ubuntu/windows sicne there so much support for this stuff!15:10
BipulHellow my audio is not clear, it's cracking. how to fix it any one?19:54
Sidewinder1Bipul, I'm no expert; perhaps one of these links will help:20:00
Sidewinder1!sound | Bipul20:01
ubot2`Bipul: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.20:01
Sidewinder1Bipul, But, crackling might simply be a loose connection.20:02
vericis flash plugin and flash player the same thing?20:06
holsteinveric: in theory.. but i would literally try them all in your case20:11
holsteinBipul: in what? the browser?20:11
verichey man i found my problem i think gona send it to you in a window20:12
SamizdatIs there a trick to getting wine to install on 12.04?  I keep getting errors.20:12
holsteinSamizdat: i ran sudo apt-get install wine and it worked fine.. you are likely getting errors installing a windows application in wine20:13
SamizdatHey holstein. :)20:13
SamizdatThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.20:13
SamizdatI've done everything to clear packages, though.20:14
holsteinSamizdat: i would fix what is broken20:14
holsteinSamizdat: you might have a bad PPA.. or something you built that is causing an error20:14
holsteini would just go back through what all you have done.. and if you havent done anything, just run sudo apt-get update, and report errors20:15
holsteinthen, sudo apt-get upgrade20:15
SamizdatThey both ran fine.20:16
SamizdatNo errors.20:16
holsteinSamizdat: ok.. so sudo apt-get install wine20:16
SamizdatSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installe20:17
holsteinSamizdat: this is 64bit?20:17
SamizdatYes.20:18
holsteinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.4/+bug/994309 mentions a workaround20:18
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 994309 in wine1.4 "wine is uninstallable" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:18
SamizdatWow.20:20
Samizdathttp://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-77def7ca75193f24e358dba3dd6bcf674bd61b3720:20
SamizdatIs that the work around you speak of, holstein^20:20
holsteinSamizdat: the one i was referencing is mentioned on the link i gave.... the bug report for the bug you are encountering20:21
SamizdatOkay, the force install.20:21
SamizdatYeah, no luck.20:28
Samizdatgeoffrey@geoffrey-HP-ProBook-4530s:~$ apt-get download wine1.4-i386 Get:1 Downloading wine1.4-i386 1.4-0ubuntu4.1 [19.9 MB] Fetched 19.9 MB in 16s (1,238 kB/s)                                             geoffrey@geoffrey-HP-ProBook-4530s:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all -i wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb dpkg: error processing wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: No20:29
Bipulholstein,  no when i am recoding my desktop20:43
Bipuli am facing issue20:43
geirhaSamizdat: apt-get downloads it to /var/cache/apt/archives, not the current dir20:48
SamizdatOkay, so I need to switch to there to run the force installs?20:48
geirhathat or provide the path to the file20:49
geirhasudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb20:49
Samizdatgeirha: rchives/wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing:20:52
geirhaSamizdat: Ah, well the file probably has a different name then21:22
SamizdatHmm.21:22
Samizdatgeirha: root@geoffrey-HP-ProBook-4530s:/var/cache/apt/archives#  sudo dpkg --force-all -i wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb Selecting previously unselected package wine1.4-i386:i386. (Reading database ... 319085 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking wine1.4-i386:i386 (from wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb) ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read on buffer copy for failed to wr21:24
Samizdatfor failed to write to pipe in copy dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb (--install):  short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine/atl.dll.so'21:25
geirhaAccording to that bug report, the wine ppa apparently has a fixed package21:30
geirhaof wine 1.521:30
SamizdatYeah, still doesn't work.21:32
geirhaHm. Let me try. I have wine1.4 installed, I'll try from the ppa21:35
geirhaInstalled without a hitch here21:42
SamizdatI have no idea.21:43
SamizdatI can get them all to install except the i386, geirha.21:43
Samizdatwine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4-0ubuntu4.1)21:44
geirhawhat does   dpkg --print-foreign-architectures   output?21:45
Samizdati38621:46
geirhasame here. Hm.21:46
SamizdatSynaptic wants me to fix broken packages.21:47
SamizdatI try their way, but nothing changes.21:47
geirhaCould you pastebin  apt-cache policy wine1.4 wine1.4:i386  ?21:48
geirhaYou can pastebin by running  apt-cache policy wine1.4 wine1.4:i386 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us21:48
Samizdathttp://pastebin.com/rwDfCXz421:50
Samizdatgeirha: ^21:50
geirhaSamizdat: Looks correct, though you don't have the PPA enabled21:51
geirhaThough, the version it shows is the version I had installed before I installed wine1.5 just now21:52
SamizdatI added it to the software center.21:52
geirhaHm. Then apt-cache policy should've shown packages from it21:54
geirhadoes   sudo apt-get update   produce any error messages?21:54
SamizdatI'm running this:  apt-get download wine1.5*21:54
SamizdatNo, runs perfectly.21:55
geirhaHere's the output from mine for comparison  http://sprunge.us/BRjF21:57
SamizdatThen I forced them all/.21:57
Samizdatsudo dpkg --force-all -i wine*21:57
SamizdatAnd now it seems to work.21:57
Samizdat__¯(°_o)/¯21:57
geirhaHm. Hopefully the force hasn't broken anything21:59
SamizdatStill can't load a program, though.22:00

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