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locodir-userWub wub04:44
MartijnVdS\o04:44
locodir-usero/04:44
soreau\o.04:52
jacobwmorning07:18
christelgood morning pretties :)07:38
AlanBellmorning all07:52
* AlanBell wonders off to find breakfast07:52
christeltis in my kitchen07:52
jacobw\o/ washing machine delivered09:02
MartijnVdS\o/09:16
brobostigongood morning everyone,09:54
MartijnVdSmorning brobostigon10:09
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS10:09
* MartijnVdS soldered a wire into a MR3220 wifi router10:09
MartijnVdSand now it has a 1wire bus with a thermometer on it \o/10:09
MartijnVdSit works!10:09
brobostigonMartijnVdS: :)10:15
MartijnVdSnew doctor tonight \o/10:19
MartijnVdSwell10:19
MartijnVdSnew episode of current doctor10:19
brobostigonyep.10:19
MartijnVdSbut you know what I mean10:19
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* penguin42 drops pin11:28
MartijnVdSpenguin42: watch out, f1 cars :)11:28
penguin42ah, need bigger pins11:29
* brobostigon offers penguin42 a box of nails.11:29
MartijnVdSBut.. F1!11:30
oimonanyone else get the problem where shotwell doesn't show thumbnails of photos it's about to import?, just shows noentry sign?12:03
oimonshotwell 0.12.3 on 12.0412:03
MartijnVdSoimon: RAW photos/12:16
oimonjpegs12:16
MartijnVdSit does that for me for .cr2s12:16
MartijnVdSI thought it was because cr2s are hard to parse12:16
oimonused to work, i'm sure12:16
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oimonMartijnVdS: probably related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/986676/comments/1012:32
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 986676 in libgphoto2 (Ubuntu) "Shotwell does not show thumbnails for images on "Mass Storage Camera"" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:32
MartijnVdSah yes12:40
MartijnVdSI put my CF card in my CF reader, so "Mass Storage" camera12:41
penguin42possibly - but be careful; some of the photo problems can be camera-specific - especially if it's related to raw12:41
MartijnVdSpenguin42: it also happens on SD from my other camera (with jpg)12:42
MartijnVdSpenguin42: so I think it might be that bug12:42
penguin42MartijnVdS: In which case I'm not sure the upstream one that's linked to is correct12:43
dwatkinswow, sipdroid is awful14:44
dwatkinsmind you, sipgate's own client isn't much better, sadly14:45
Azelphurdwatkins: you know android has built in SIP support right?14:51
dwatkinsAzelphur: no, I did not - how do I get to the configuration?14:51
* dwatkins is running CM714:51
AzelphurOpen the dialer, press menu, settings, scroll to the bottom and you'll find "Internet call settings"14:52
Azelphuralthough CM7 is a bit old, I'm not sure if it was in android on that version14:52
dwatkinsfantastic, thanks14:52
dwatkinsah ok, perhaps yeah14:52
Azelphurwhat phone you got?14:52
dwatkinsHTC Desire HD (aka Ace)14:52
Azelphuris there not a newer CM build for that?14:53
dwatkinsnot that I've seen, I think I have either the most recent, or pretty much the most recent, 7.214:53
dwatkinsno internet call settings option in the dialler preferences, sadly14:54
Azelphurthere should be unofficial prebuilds14:54
Azelphurlike my HTC Desire Z didn't have a released CM10, but I was running it anyway14:54
dwatkinsyeah, I havn't looked into it in a while - when I installed this, CM 7.1 was quite new (I was wrong, it's not 7.2)14:55
Azelphurdwatkins: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202 looks good and seems to not have any critical bugs14:55
Azelphurtis a cm10 prerelease :)14:55
dwatkinsah yes, I just found a thread about CM9 also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=175438214:56
dwatkinscheers Azelphur, will look into these14:56
Azelphurthat's an older version of android and has more broken features :P14:57
Azelphurdwatkins: you know about nandroid right?14:57
Azelphurand titanium backup14:57
dwatkinsyeah, I think I used them before for backups14:58
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Azelphurwhen you upgrade from cm7 to 10, you'll most likely need to do a full wipe14:58
dwatkinsfair enough, makes sense14:58
Azelphurso use titanium to restore any apps14:58
Azelphurand take a full nandroid backup just in case it doesn't work so you can rollback14:58
dwatkinsI assume ROM manager just backs up the OS.14:59
Azelphuryea if you do it with rom manager it will ask you if you want to take a backup, then it'll do a nandroid backup14:59
Azelphurbe careful not to miss it, it's off by default14:59
dwatkinsaha cool14:59
dwatkinsHavn't done one for a couple weeks, actually.14:59
Azelphurhehe :)14:59
AzelphurI had my Desire Z running CM10 for a long time was quite nice albeit a little quirky15:00
dwatkinscheers for reminding me :)15:00
Azelphuryw :)15:00
Azelphurthe builtin sip client uses a lot less battery than sipdroid/csipsimple from what I've seen15:00
Azelphurso should be an improvement15:00
dwatkinsIt always makes me smile that the text-based bootloader uses lots of bright colours, probably because I grew up with a BBC Micro.15:01
Azelphurhehe15:01
AzelphurI bit the bullet and upgraded a few days ago though, got me a Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 7, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/August/IMG_20120831_205728.jpg15:02
Azelphursold my old HTC Desire Z15:02
dwatkinshmm, no nandroid option in the backup, it's just going ahead15:02
dutchiei don't see the point in rooting my nexus 715:02
dwatkinsvery nice, I didn't know CM had already been ported to the NExus 7.15:02
Azelphurdwatkins: the backup option is nandroid, they are synonimous :)15:02
dwatkinsAzelphur: aha thanks15:03
Azelphurdutchie: I wanted it for DataSync so I can sync appdata between the two15:03
Azelphuralthough as of yet the only thing I achieved was wiping my save game \o/15:03
dutchieAzelphur: haha15:04
kvarleyI want an easy to use secure firewall that will let me restrict access to a set of IP addresses on several different ports. Which applications can do that? I'm am not running an X server on the machine it is destined for15:06
brobostigonwhy not just use the inbuilt kernel iptables, and use ufw to configure it ?15:07
brobostigoni mean, iptables is alrady there, builtin.15:08
MartijnVdSiptables is good, some apps have internal controls as well15:08
MartijnVdSbut iptables is what you want :)15:08
dwatkinsI hear good things about ipcop, but that's probably for booting a dedicated machine from.15:17
kvarleybrobostigon: I'll check that out, thanks :) I'm setting up an invite-only XMPP network you see so I need the added security :)15:20
brobostigonkvarley: ah, interesting, :)15:20
Azelphurtrying to use ffmpeg to convert a youtube mp4 to mp3 and it's not happy with me. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/yJDh3x1n15:25
kvarleyAzelphur: Try: ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -vn acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 256k -ar 48000 audio.mp315:27
kvarleyAzelphur: Or just use VLC to do it :P15:28
Azelphurkvarley: nope http://pastebin.com/mXiJw66P :(15:28
Azelphurkvarley: how do you do that? didn't know vlc could do it15:28
kvarleyAzelphur: Yeah, it has been able to do it for ages! :) Open VLC, click on "Media" from the menu, then select the "Convert / Save ..." option15:31
Azelphurkvarley: ah, I have a lot to convert would prefer to do it from the command line15:31
kvarleyAzelphur: Do you have lame installed?15:32
kvarleysudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-5315:32
Azelphurnope, installing it now :P15:34
Azelphuryay now it's working :)15:41
jacobwevening19:03
christelhiya jacobw :)19:21
penguin42anyone know what the 'right' way to add an option to something started by upstart is - is it really to edit /etc/init/whatever?20:12
dutchiepenguin42: /etc/default/whatever20:27
dutchiei believe20:27
penguin42dutchie: The init script doesn't seem to read it20:27
dutchiespecifying which package may help :)20:27
penguin42tgt20:28
penguin42dutchie: It just has an exec tgtd   - it then also runs as a post-starta /usr/sbin/tgt-admin -e   which is supposed to read stuff from tgt's config files but the docs for those only seem to specify some of the stuff you can do on the command lines20:29
dutchieodd :/ afraid i'm not hugely familiar with it, hopefully someone else is20:29
* penguin42 is trying to set up iscsi with multiple portals and it's far from obvious20:43
Myrtti♥ Wolfram Alpha21:19
Azelphuryou know it's bad when you've done 30GB of youtube in one day22:17
penguin42Azelphur: what?22:26
Azelphurpenguin42: I've downloaded 30GB of youtube content today, haha22:27
penguin42Azelphur: No, I mean what magical youtube content have you found that's worth downloading 60GB of22:27
Azelphurhttp://www.youtube.com/user/goingquantum22:28
ali1234wubwubwub22:29
Azelphurwub indeed.22:29
Azelphurdownloading all of the podcasts and mp3ing them22:29
penguin42hth is that 60GB just for an audio with a still image - oh it'll be the silly visualisations ?22:30
ali1234well there is 58 episodes22:30
ali1234eash one an hour long22:30
penguin42but an hour of audio shouldn't take a GB22:31
ali1234no, but an hour of 1080p is much more than 1 GB22:31
Azelphurindeed22:31
Azelphurpenguin42: 30GB not 6022:31
penguin42I only looked at the start of that - there was very little movement, so that should encode to very little for the video22:32
ali1234Azelphur: did you see that 4K TV on slashdot today? you can buy it from korea...22:32
* penguin42 wants a 4K monitor - a nice small 24" one22:32
ali1234panasonic has a 20" ne according to the story22:33
Azelphurali1234: haha I heard about 4k tv's before, they do sound awesome22:33
bigcalmGood evening slackers :)22:33
Azelphurand yea I heard about 20", that sounds terrible22:33
Azelphur4k at 20" would just be bad22:33
penguin42bigcalm: Good evening fellow slacker22:33
bigcalm:D22:34
bigcalmI'm looking to a wifi router with USB port that will run openwrt. There seem to be lots, but finding a decent one is slow going22:36
bigcalmAnybody with thoughts on TP-Link?22:38
ali1234when it comes to openwrt the only thing that really matters is the core chipset22:38
bigcalmFugley, but seems to be supported: http://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WR2543ND-450Mbps-Dual-Band-Wireless-Gigabit/dp/B006B3BM9I/22:42
directhexi have a tp-link wifi stick23:13
directhexit works23:13
bigcalmAnybody bought from WAE+ ?23:14
bigcalmNow looking at the Netgear WNDR380023:14
bigcalmMixed reviews. will pay extra and buy from pixmania23:20
ali1234Azelphur: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWolompWT823:44
Azelphurali1234: haha :D23:45
Azelphurthat looks fun, so he uploads new content every day?23:45
ali1234you need to sub that guy, he is amazing23:45
Azelphursubbing \o/23:45
ali1234not just dubstep. he does pretty much every kind of music23:45
Azelphurah23:46
Azelphurdo you like dubstep?23:46
ali1234"gravy and toast" is my favourite23:46
Azelphurhehe23:46
penguin42Azelphur: How did your windows-tax refund go?23:46
ali1234http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTzTSbc268c23:46
Azelphurpenguin42: they told me to contact lenovo, I gave up at that point23:46
penguin42Azelphur: Bah!23:46
ali1234dubstep is ok. i prefer the less wubby kind though.23:46
Azelphurali1234: hehe23:46
penguin42Azelphur: Pity, I started thinking; if it was possible for WIndows, people should start doing it with Mac23:47
Azelphurpenguin42: rofl23:47
penguin42Azelphur: Well, it would be interesting - Apple claimed some of the features on their mobiles were worth $100/device23:49
Azelphurhaha23:49

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