[04:44] <locodir-user> Wub wub
[04:44] <MartijnVdS> \o
[04:44] <locodir-user> o/
[04:52] <soreau> \o.
[07:18] <jacobw> morning
[07:38] <christel> good morning pretties :)
[07:52] <AlanBell> morning all
[07:52]  * AlanBell wonders off to find breakfast
[07:52] <christel> tis in my kitchen
[09:02] <jacobw> \o/ washing machine delivered
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[09:54] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> morning brobostigon
[10:09] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[10:09]  * MartijnVdS soldered a wire into a MR3220 wifi router
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> and now it has a 1wire bus with a thermometer on it \o/
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> it works!
[10:15] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: :)
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> new doctor tonight \o/
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> well
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> new episode of current doctor
[10:19] <brobostigon> yep.
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> but you know what I mean
[11:28]  * penguin42 drops pin
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: watch out, f1 cars :)
[11:29] <penguin42> ah, need bigger pins
[11:29]  * brobostigon offers penguin42 a box of nails.
[11:30] <MartijnVdS> But.. F1!
[12:03] <oimon> anyone else get the problem where shotwell doesn't show thumbnails of photos it's about to import?, just shows noentry sign?
[12:03] <oimon> shotwell 0.12.3 on 12.04
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> oimon: RAW photos/
[12:16] <oimon> jpegs
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> it does that for me for .cr2s
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> I thought it was because cr2s are hard to parse
[12:16] <oimon> used to work, i'm sure
[12:32] <oimon> MartijnVdS: probably related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/986676/comments/10
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> ah yes
[12:41] <MartijnVdS> I put my CF card in my CF reader, so "Mass Storage" camera
[12:41] <penguin42> possibly - but be careful; some of the photo problems can be camera-specific - especially if it's related to raw
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: it also happens on SD from my other camera (with jpg)
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: so I think it might be that bug
[12:43] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: In which case I'm not sure the upstream one that's linked to is correct
[14:44] <dwatkins> wow, sipdroid is awful
[14:45] <dwatkins> mind you, sipgate's own client isn't much better, sadly
[14:51] <Azelphur> dwatkins: you know android has built in SIP support right?
[14:51] <dwatkins> Azelphur: no, I did not - how do I get to the configuration?
[14:51]  * dwatkins is running CM7
[14:52] <Azelphur> Open the dialer, press menu, settings, scroll to the bottom and you'll find "Internet call settings"
[14:52] <Azelphur> although CM7 is a bit old, I'm not sure if it was in android on that version
[14:52] <dwatkins> fantastic, thanks
[14:52] <dwatkins> ah ok, perhaps yeah
[14:52] <Azelphur> what phone you got?
[14:52] <dwatkins> HTC Desire HD (aka Ace)
[14:53] <Azelphur> is there not a newer CM build for that?
[14:53] <dwatkins> not that I've seen, I think I have either the most recent, or pretty much the most recent, 7.2
[14:54] <dwatkins> no internet call settings option in the dialler preferences, sadly
[14:54] <Azelphur> there should be unofficial prebuilds
[14:54] <Azelphur> like my HTC Desire Z didn't have a released CM10, but I was running it anyway
[14:55] <dwatkins> yeah, I havn't looked into it in a while - when I installed this, CM 7.1 was quite new (I was wrong, it's not 7.2)
[14:55] <Azelphur> dwatkins: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202 looks good and seems to not have any critical bugs
[14:55] <Azelphur> tis a cm10 prerelease :)
[14:56] <dwatkins> ah yes, I just found a thread about CM9 also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754382
[14:56] <dwatkins> cheers Azelphur, will look into these
[14:57] <Azelphur> that's an older version of android and has more broken features :P
[14:57] <Azelphur> dwatkins: you know about nandroid right?
[14:57] <Azelphur> and titanium backup
[14:58] <dwatkins> yeah, I think I used them before for backups
[14:58] <Azelphur> when you upgrade from cm7 to 10, you'll most likely need to do a full wipe
[14:58] <dwatkins> fair enough, makes sense
[14:58] <Azelphur> so use titanium to restore any apps
[14:58] <Azelphur> and take a full nandroid backup just in case it doesn't work so you can rollback
[14:59] <dwatkins> I assume ROM manager just backs up the OS.
[14:59] <Azelphur> yea if you do it with rom manager it will ask you if you want to take a backup, then it'll do a nandroid backup
[14:59] <Azelphur> be careful not to miss it, it's off by default
[14:59] <dwatkins> aha cool
[14:59] <dwatkins> Havn't done one for a couple weeks, actually.
[14:59] <Azelphur> hehe :)
[15:00] <Azelphur> I had my Desire Z running CM10 for a long time was quite nice albeit a little quirky
[15:00] <dwatkins> cheers for reminding me :)
[15:00] <Azelphur> yw :)
[15:00] <Azelphur> the builtin sip client uses a lot less battery than sipdroid/csipsimple from what I've seen
[15:00] <Azelphur> so should be an improvement
[15:01] <dwatkins> It always makes me smile that the text-based bootloader uses lots of bright colours, probably because I grew up with a BBC Micro.
[15:01] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:02] <Azelphur> I bit the bullet and upgraded a few days ago though, got me a Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 7, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/August/IMG_20120831_205728.jpg
[15:02] <Azelphur> sold my old HTC Desire Z
[15:02] <dwatkins> hmm, no nandroid option in the backup, it's just going ahead
[15:02] <dutchie> i don't see the point in rooting my nexus 7
[15:02] <dwatkins> very nice, I didn't know CM had already been ported to the NExus 7.
[15:02] <Azelphur> dwatkins: the backup option is nandroid, they are synonimous :)
[15:03] <dwatkins> Azelphur: aha thanks
[15:03] <Azelphur> dutchie: I wanted it for DataSync so I can sync appdata between the two
[15:03] <Azelphur> although as of yet the only thing I achieved was wiping my save game \o/
[15:04] <dutchie> Azelphur: haha
[15:06] <kvarley> I want an easy to use secure firewall that will let me restrict access to a set of IP addresses on several different ports. Which applications can do that? I'm am not running an X server on the machine it is destined for
[15:07] <brobostigon> why not just use the inbuilt kernel iptables, and use ufw to configure it ?
[15:08] <brobostigon> i mean, iptables is alrady there, builtin.
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> iptables is good, some apps have internal controls as well
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> but iptables is what you want :)
[15:17] <dwatkins> I hear good things about ipcop, but that's probably for booting a dedicated machine from.
[15:20] <kvarley> brobostigon: I'll check that out, thanks :) I'm setting up an invite-only XMPP network you see so I need the added security :)
[15:20] <brobostigon> kvarley: ah, interesting, :)
[15:25] <Azelphur> trying to use ffmpeg to convert a youtube mp4 to mp3 and it's not happy with me. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/yJDh3x1n
[15:27] <kvarley> Azelphur: Try: ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -vn acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 256k -ar 48000 audio.mp3
[15:28] <kvarley> Azelphur: Or just use VLC to do it :P
[15:28] <Azelphur> kvarley: nope http://pastebin.com/mXiJw66P :(
[15:28] <Azelphur> kvarley: how do you do that? didn't know vlc could do it
[15:31] <kvarley> Azelphur: Yeah, it has been able to do it for ages! :) Open VLC, click on "Media" from the menu, then select the "Convert / Save ..." option
[15:31] <Azelphur> kvarley: ah, I have a lot to convert would prefer to do it from the command line
[15:32] <kvarley> Azelphur: Do you have lame installed?
[15:32] <kvarley> sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-53
[15:34] <Azelphur> nope, installing it now :P
[15:41] <Azelphur> yay now it's working :)
[19:03] <jacobw> evening
[19:21] <christel> hiya jacobw :)
[20:12] <penguin42> anyone know what the 'right' way to add an option to something started by upstart is - is it really to edit /etc/init/whatever?
[20:27] <dutchie> penguin42: /etc/default/whatever
[20:27] <dutchie> i believe
[20:27] <penguin42> dutchie: The init script doesn't seem to read it
[20:27] <dutchie> specifying which package may help :)
[20:28] <penguin42> tgt
[20:29] <penguin42> dutchie: It just has an exec tgtd   - it then also runs as a post-starta /usr/sbin/tgt-admin -e   which is supposed to read stuff from tgt's config files but the docs for those only seem to specify some of the stuff you can do on the command lines
[20:29] <dutchie> odd :/ afraid i'm not hugely familiar with it, hopefully someone else is
[20:43]  * penguin42 is trying to set up iscsi with multiple portals and it's far from obvious
[21:19] <Myrtti> ♥ Wolfram Alpha
[22:17] <Azelphur> you know it's bad when you've done 30GB of youtube in one day
[22:26] <penguin42> Azelphur: what?
[22:27] <Azelphur> penguin42: I've downloaded 30GB of youtube content today, haha
[22:27] <penguin42> Azelphur: No, I mean what magical youtube content have you found that's worth downloading 60GB of
[22:28] <Azelphur> http://www.youtube.com/user/goingquantum
[22:29] <ali1234> wubwubwub
[22:29] <Azelphur> wub indeed.
[22:29] <Azelphur> downloading all of the podcasts and mp3ing them
[22:30] <penguin42> hth is that 60GB just for an audio with a still image - oh it'll be the silly visualisations ?
[22:30] <ali1234> well there is 58 episodes
[22:30] <ali1234> eash one an hour long
[22:31] <penguin42> but an hour of audio shouldn't take a GB
[22:31] <ali1234> no, but an hour of 1080p is much more than 1 GB
[22:31] <Azelphur> indeed
[22:31] <Azelphur> penguin42: 30GB not 60
[22:32] <penguin42> I only looked at the start of that - there was very little movement, so that should encode to very little for the video
[22:32] <ali1234> Azelphur: did you see that 4K TV on slashdot today? you can buy it from korea...
[22:32]  * penguin42 wants a 4K monitor - a nice small 24" one
[22:33] <ali1234> panasonic has a 20" ne according to the story
[22:33] <Azelphur> ali1234: haha I heard about 4k tv's before, they do sound awesome
[22:33] <bigcalm> Good evening slackers :)
[22:33] <Azelphur> and yea I heard about 20", that sounds terrible
[22:33] <Azelphur> 4k at 20" would just be bad
[22:33] <penguin42> bigcalm: Good evening fellow slacker
[22:34] <bigcalm> :D
[22:36] <bigcalm> I'm looking to a wifi router with USB port that will run openwrt. There seem to be lots, but finding a decent one is slow going
[22:38] <bigcalm> Anybody with thoughts on TP-Link?
[22:38] <ali1234> when it comes to openwrt the only thing that really matters is the core chipset
[22:42] <bigcalm> Fugley, but seems to be supported: http://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WR2543ND-450Mbps-Dual-Band-Wireless-Gigabit/dp/B006B3BM9I/
[23:13] <directhex> i have a tp-link wifi stick
[23:13] <directhex> it works
[23:14] <bigcalm> Anybody bought from WAE+ ?
[23:14] <bigcalm> Now looking at the Netgear WNDR3800
[23:20] <bigcalm> Mixed reviews. will pay extra and buy from pixmania
[23:44] <ali1234> Azelphur: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWolompWT8
[23:45] <Azelphur> ali1234: haha :D
[23:45] <Azelphur> that looks fun, so he uploads new content every day?
[23:45] <ali1234> you need to sub that guy, he is amazing
[23:45] <Azelphur> subbing \o/
[23:45] <ali1234> not just dubstep. he does pretty much every kind of music
[23:46] <Azelphur> ah
[23:46] <Azelphur> do you like dubstep?
[23:46] <ali1234> "gravy and toast" is my favourite
[23:46] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:46] <penguin42> Azelphur: How did your windows-tax refund go?
[23:46] <ali1234> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTzTSbc268c
[23:46] <Azelphur> penguin42: they told me to contact lenovo, I gave up at that point
[23:46] <penguin42> Azelphur: Bah!
[23:46] <ali1234> dubstep is ok. i prefer the less wubby kind though.
[23:46] <Azelphur> ali1234: hehe
[23:47] <penguin42> Azelphur: Pity, I started thinking; if it was possible for WIndows, people should start doing it with Mac
[23:47] <Azelphur> penguin42: rofl
[23:49] <penguin42> Azelphur: Well, it would be interesting - Apple claimed some of the features on their mobiles were worth $100/device
[23:49] <Azelphur> haha