[05:51] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:05] <Squirm> morning
[06:05] <Squirm> hehe, Kilos, I beat you to fp today
[06:05] <Squirm> :P
[06:06] <Kilos> hehe, hiya squirm
[07:31] <magespawn> morning early birds
[07:40] <superfly> morning Kilos magespawn etc
[07:50] <magespawn> hey superfly
[07:52] <magespawn> seems like Kilos is becoming a bit of a lurker himself
[07:56] <magespawn> hey you guys also struggling with international access this morning?
[07:56] <smile4> magespawn: what do you mean? :)
[07:56] <magespawn> my gmail is timing out the whole time
[07:56] <smile4> btw, someone able to speak Swedish or Turkish here? :)
[07:56] <smile4> magespawn: i'll check
[07:56] <smile4> mine is up, magespawn 
[07:57] <magespawn> think you will be outa luck with request
[07:57] <smile4> :|
[07:57] <magespawn> mine is up but very slow, sea monkey mail keeps timing out on my google apps domain
[07:57] <smile4> maybe google apps is down
[07:58] <magespawn> mm maybe
[07:58] <magespawn> also cannot get throught to www.seamonkey-project.org
[07:59] <smile4> magespawn: I can. maybe something wrong with ur own connection
[07:59] <smile4> :p
[07:59] <magespawn> or a link between me and them
[08:01] <smile4> yea :(
[08:02] <smile4> magespawn: try using a proxy
[08:02] <magespawn> actually look like it is just the windows machine
[08:04] <magespawn> lol yup just the windows machine
[08:05] <smile4> xD
[08:06] <smile4> magespawn: boot into ubuntu :)
[08:06] <magespawn> mm
[08:06] <magespawn> prefer to solve the problem
[08:11] <Symmetria> oh what the hell
[08:11] <Symmetria> there is no one who releases bigger patches than blizzard
[08:11] <Symmetria> 5.5gig patch!
[08:12] <Symmetria> when you first install it, its a 10gig download, then it downloads another 6gig initial patch, and now a month later its downloading another 5.5gig
[08:12] <Symmetria> :p
[08:15] <magespawn> that would hurt most ppl 
[08:15] <Symmetria> hurts me as well :P lol
[08:17] <magespawn> I would find it hard to believe that you are not on some sort of uncapped connection
[08:17] <Symmetria> lol of course I am, but it still takes ages
[08:18] <magespawn> whats ages?
[08:19] <Kerbero> minutes not seconds
[08:19] <magespawn> at least it is not hours or days
[08:20] <Kerbero> 12 minutes on my connection
[08:20] <Kerbero> but only if they have an IS cache
[08:20] <Kerbero> like steam
[08:20] <magespawn> see on mine that would take days
[08:28] <Symmetria> heh
[08:29] <Symmetria> I did the original installation with all 16gigs of downloads when I first installed this in 15 minutes 
[08:29] <Symmetria> straight off the net
[08:29] <Symmetria> but lol, at home, 5gigs takes a few hours
[08:36]  * Symmetria goes back to trying to sort out his mp3 id3 tags
[08:36] <Symmetria> heh this is time consuming and painful
[08:38] <magespawn> is there not an automatic way to sort them?
[08:39] <nuvolari> aloha
[08:39]  * nuvolari tips hat
[08:41] <Symmetria> heh magespawn Im using a rather nice tag editor
[08:41] <Symmetria> that gets tags from online etc
[08:41] <Symmetria> but still gotta verify what its doing album for album
[08:41] <Symmetria> and Im kinda anal about how stuff is named and structured in my collection to be able to find anything so it takes time
[08:41] <Symmetria> lots of time
[08:42] <Symmetria> I think Ive correctly tagged the first 3 thousand outta 8 thousand albums :p
[08:45] <Kilos> hey magespawn i been out by the sheep moving to other grazing and checking they dont eat the roses and shrubs
[08:52] <smile4> Maybe someone wants to translate some Afrikaans at https://translations.launchpad.net/emesene/trunk/+pots/emesene/af/+translate ? :)
[08:52] <smile4> That would be very kind :)
[08:56] <Symmetria> heh I have to say, the amount of ram in this machine of mine actually makes a significant difference when doing mass mp3 tag edits and stuff
[08:56] <Symmetria> because the rescanning of the directory structures and inserting of album art is a LOT faster
[09:02] <Kerbero> are you using media monkey?
[09:14] <Symmetria> using tag scanner
[09:14] <Kerbero> ok
[09:15] <Symmetria> it works pretty well
[09:24] <magespawn> no prob kilos was more a joke than anything
[09:24] <Kilos> ok youre forgiven
[09:25] <magespawn> have read Full Circle Magazine?
[09:26] <magespawn> superfly did you remove the HTC sense?
[09:26] <Kilos> nope didnt get them
[09:26] <Symmetria> heh Kerbero see msg
[09:27] <psydroid> hi Kilos Symmetria magespawn superfly and others
[09:27] <psydroid> hoi Kerbero
[09:27] <Kilos> hi psydroid Kerbero Symmetria 
[09:27] <magespawn> Kilos they make pretty good reading 
[09:27] <magespawn> hey psydroid
[09:28] <Kilos> magespawn, you got a link to the download for me plse
[09:28] <Symmetria> *sigh* one day I will replace every mp3 I have with flac files
[09:28] <Symmetria> but the bandwidth, and the disk space, is just crazy
[09:50] <magespawn> here you go Kilos http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[09:50] <magespawn> that is the download page for allof their issues
[09:50] <magespawn> hold on a second
[09:51] <magespawn> they are supposed to have a link to download a whole load of issues at once but I get a 403 error
[09:52] <magespawn> this is that link http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/bundle/
[09:54] <magespawn> Symmetria: how does the size compare to mp3?
[09:55] <magespawn> what is the tag editor called?
[09:56] <Kerbero> [11:14] <Symmetria> using tag scanner
[09:56] <Kerbero> that is the name
[09:56] <Kerbero> and i think flacs are about 10-20x bigger
[09:58] <magespawn> ty Kerbero
[09:58] <magespawn> is there a significant advantage in moving to flacs besides being open source?
[09:58] <Kerbero> sound quality
[09:58] <Kerbero> is flac opensource?
[09:58] <Kerbero> flac is lossless
[09:58] <magespawn> thing so
[09:58] <magespawn> think 
[09:59] <Kerbero> aren't you thinking of ogg
[09:59] <magespawn> http://flac.sourceforge.net/
[09:59] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[09:59] <Kerbero> ahh
[09:59] <Kerbero> cool
[09:59] <magespawn> np Kilos
[10:01] <magespawn> is tag scanner for linux? i can ony see one for windows?
[10:06] <Symmetria> windows sadly
[10:06] <Symmetria> but heh, sitll the best tag editor out there, believe me, Ive tried LOADS of them
[10:06] <Symmetria> magespawn heh, flac is lossless
[10:06] <Symmetria> so the quality is WAY higher
[10:06] <Symmetria> thats the advantage, the disadvantage is the size 
[10:07] <Symmetria> average album on flac format is anywhere from 350 to 500 meg big
[10:07] <magespawn> I would have get new storage
[10:07] <Symmetria> and unless you get the flacs that have been ripped direct from cds or something else, it is POINTLESS converting mp3s to flacs (the quality already got cost in the initial conversion)
[10:08] <Kerbero> practical information theory
[10:08] <Symmetria> put it this way, 1215 albums in mp3 format is around 90gig, in flac, 300 albums is around the same size :p
[10:09] <Symmetria> heh if you downloading the stuff you also need bandwidth, lots of it :p
[10:09] <magespawn> i think i will stick with mp3 for now then
[10:10] <Symmetria> heh I dont get it, blizzard supposed to only release MoP on the 25th
[10:10] <Symmetria> but it would seem that by pre-ordering I got it early :P
[11:50] <magespawn> later all
[12:00] <smile4> bye everyone
[12:00] <smile4> :)
[14:03]  * Squirm yawns
[14:59] <nuvolari> brrr
[15:00] <nuvolari> chilly here by the coast
[15:00] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[15:00] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos  :)
[15:00] <nuvolari> how are you doing?
[15:00] <nuvolari> hmm, major lag :-/
[15:00] <Kilos> not too bad ty and you?
[15:01] <nuvolari> I'm good thank you!
[15:50] <smile4> hi :)
[17:18] <Kilos-> oh my. was disconnected without even losing internet connection
[18:01] <Kilos-> hi Trixar_za welcome to the morgue
[18:01] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos-
[18:01] <Kilos> hi acherv 
[18:01] <acherv> Kilos: hi
[18:02] <acherv> how are U?
[18:02] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[18:02] <acherv> fine
[18:03] <Kilos> wb smile4 
[18:03] <smile4> thanks :|
[18:03] <smile4> I clicked wrong
[18:03] <smile4> :p
[18:03] <Kilos> hehe
[18:05] <acherv> Kilos: are u using virtualbox
[18:05] <acherv> ?
[18:06] <Kilos> nope
[18:06] <Kilos> i tried it but everything is too slow
[18:07] <acherv> i format my computer 
[18:08] <acherv> just ubuntu now
[18:08] <Kilos> i got ubuntu one 3 different drives here
[18:08] <Kilos> 12.04 11.04 and 10.10
[18:09] <acherv> but i need to do something to win7
[18:09] <acherv> lol why?
[18:09] <Banlam> what do you need in win7?
[18:10] <acherv> visual basic thing
[18:10] <Kilos> well the one with 10.10 i cant replace because its extinct, so nursing it.
[18:10] <Kilos> 11.04 is experimental on 6g drive
[18:10] <Kilos> 12.04 on 80g sata drive
[18:13] <Kilos> acherv, isnt there a way you can use ubuntu to do it
[18:13] <Symmetria> huh, when did garbage release another album
[18:13] <Symmetria> <3 
[18:14] <Symmetria> heh one of the good things about using amazon to tag flac files/mp3s etc, while crawling it with the tagger you start to find albums you didnt know existed :p
[18:34] <smile4> bye :)
[18:34] <Kilos> sleep tight smile4 
[18:35] <smile4> thanks, u too :)
[18:43] <magespawn> evening all
[18:43] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[18:44] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[18:45] <magespawn> whats up?
[18:46] <Kilos> wp killing the bulls
[18:46] <magespawn> lol
[18:47] <magespawn> and the sharks?
[18:47] <Kilos> i got the weirdest of probs here
[18:47] <Trixar_za> https://cput.ats.hrsmart.com/cgi-bin/a/highlightjob.cgi?jobid=719
[18:47] <Trixar_za> I never get that one requirement
[18:47] <Kilos> sharks beat cheetahs
[18:47] <Trixar_za> It's a Unix Job right?
[18:48] <Trixar_za> But the one recommendation is: MS Windows server experience
[18:48] <magespawn> what is the prob Kilos?
[18:48] <Trixar_za> Crap
[18:48] <Kilos> 12.04 cant see my external but maverick and 11.04 see it fine
[18:48] <Trixar_za> Did Sarel Pretorius atleast score a few?
[18:48] <Kilos> even gparted here says it cant find /dev/sdd
[18:48] <magespawn> Trixar_za: maybe the want you administer windows from linux?
[18:49] <magespawn> Kilos maybe it is mounted else where.
[18:49] <Trixar_za> You mean run SAMBA?
[18:49] <Trixar_za> Makes sense
[18:50] <Kilos> normally i can get permissions with chown on /media/storage/ but not with 12.04
[18:51] <Kilos> its my usb external magespawn so should show up when plugged in
[18:52] <magespawn> what else is in /dev ?
[18:53] <Kilos> sec i try find out
[18:53] <magespawn> Trixar_za: does seem a bit wierd, maybe the core system runs on Linux, but they want suppport for all the campus.
[18:54] <Kilos> block bsg bus char and lots more
[18:55] <Kilos> wb psydroid 
[18:55] <magespawn> hold on Kilos 
[18:55] <Kilos> no atwk or notatwk today
[18:56] <Kilos> k
[18:56] <magespawn> and in /media ?
[18:58] <Kilos> apt  backupprecise  floppy  floppy0
[18:59] <Kilos> that drive is in 2 partitions backup and storage
[19:00] <magespawn> that is where my external is, but that is on 9.04
[19:00] <Kilos> normally i would go to them via /media/backup
[19:00] <Kilos> yeah mine was always in media
[19:00] <Kilos> even gparted cant find it
[19:01] <Kilos> dunno if its 12.04 or the gigabyte mb
[19:01] <Kilos> tried in other usb ports... same thing
[19:04] <magespawn> sounds like it is not auto mounting
[19:04] <Kilos> ya
[19:06] <Kilos> ill install mountpy and see what happens
[19:07] <Kilos> but head thumpin so will go on tomorrow
[19:07] <Kilos> you all have a good night
[19:07] <Kilos> ty for the help magespawn 
[19:07] <magespawn> no worries Kilos good night
[19:07] <Kilos> ty
[19:31] <magespawn> later all
[19:34]  * Symmetria starts his nightly rsync to backup his music collection and tries to decide if he wants to read, watch a movie or just go to bed :p
[19:48] <Symmetria> holy crap
[19:48] <Symmetria> no one buy that new garbage album
[19:48] <Symmetria> its... GARBAGE