/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/09/01/#ubuntu.txt

Flannelconfused: It's a staging area, sometimes containing packages that have unsatisfiable dependencies, or other problems.00:00
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dj_ryanyeah i dont want to use urandom, i used zero00:00
xorgddj_ryan: do you plan to use encryption ?00:00
dj_ryanno00:00
xorgdyour fine with zero00:00
confusedFlannel  having problems with the upgrade/dist-upgrade  an I suppose to sudo first00:01
Flannelconfused: no, just do one or the other: `sudo apt-get upgrade` will be fine.00:01
dj_ryanso here's a question what does d-i netcfg/get_hostname take as an option?00:01
confusedFlannel  how to clear that staging area00:01
Flannelconfused: staging area? oh, disable -proposed in whatever GUI you use to select software sources00:02
confusedFlannel did the upgrade thing already and posted the pastebin00:02
Flannelconfused: Does it have the same output as before?00:02
confusedFlannel should I do it again00:02
Flannelconfused: yeah, you've changed the data it's running off of.00:03
confusedharry@harry-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade00:03
confusedReading package lists... Done00:03
confusedBuilding dependency tree00:03
confusedReading state information... Done00:03
confused0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.00:03
FloodBot1confused: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:03
Flannelconfused: Looks like you're up to date then.00:04
Flannelchan-1611: Can you please stop hopping in and out?00:04
szalunless deselecting -proposed in a GUI would still require apt-get update, that is00:04
confusedthen why is the 85kb file still there in the update manager.. This is the problem00:04
nibbler_confused, i have not seen the 85kb file in any or your pastes, can you point it out to me please?00:05
Flannelconfused: Can you post like... a screenshot of that?00:05
roxconfused: all this time you haven't been able to tell us what 85k file00:05
roxconfused: i am sure you are misinterpreting something00:06
* nibbler_ agrees00:06
confusedI DONT KNOW what the file is...  Update manager does NOT give a discription or anything about it.. it worries me.00:06
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nibbler_confused, make screenshot or paste of whatever indication to whatever 85k file you have, or it might look like you are trolling ;-)00:06
roxconfused: update manager lists all packages it upgrades00:07
szalconfused: so how do you know it's 85 kB in size?00:07
confusedIt states ...   again...  1 update has been selected.  85kb will be downloaded   THis is all there is on the update manager  I dont know what it is or how to fix it..00:08
dr_williswas you asking abut this about 2 weeks ago confused ?00:08
Erinpictures or it didn't happen :-)00:08
confusedYES00:08
confusedstill not fixed00:08
dr_willisand is there any actual problem? stuff wont install?00:08
tooeok00:09
confusedI have a screenshot but how to get a screenshot on pastebin.. I copy paste and get the path to the screenshot on the pastebin00:09
roxok, click on all those "details" and "description" buttons and arrows and for god's sake tell us what package you are talking about00:09
nibbler_!paste > confused00:09
ubottuconfused, please see my private message00:09
dr_willisconfused:  you paste it to a screenshot site.. not pastebin00:09
confuseddr_willis   correct, it wont install..00:09
dr_willis confused  you dont paste the url like  file:/mydir/file.png00:09
confusedok,, Hold on00:10
dr_willisor you can capture the apt-get session via the 'typescript' command  to a text file.00:10
* nibbler_ wonders what magic picture might show up00:10
Flanneldr_willis: we've already got apt-get stuff, nothing is in them.00:10
confusedFinally got it.. Paste    http://imagebin.org/22669000:11
dr_willisconfused:  so as a examaple  you cant install anything and get some error when you try somthing like -->   sudo apt-get install pioneers00:11
yooffine00:11
confuseddr_willis  http://imagebin.org/226690    and I try to install it,,, the blue line goes running across and checks again only to see the same thing on the screen,, nothing changes and NO new updates00:12
dr_willisconfused:  try installing somthing from the terminal.. look for error messages..  so far it just seems update-manager is confiused.. not the actual package system00:13
confuseddr_willis    the discription is also totally blank00:13
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nibbler_confused, maybe apt-get -f install00:13
dr_willisconfused:  i dont care about what the GUI tool says..00:13
dr_willisim asking about the text based tools that will give more error info.00:14
IronsightAnyone get minecraft working? I get a black screen :(00:14
ActionParsnipIronsight: which java are you using?00:14
Ironsightoracle java 700:14
ActionParsnipIronsight: do you have 3D accelleration setup?00:14
Ironsightyes00:14
confuseddr_willis   kinda new to the terminal     I dont know how to use it like that00:14
dr_willisconfused:  so as a examaple  you cant install anything and get some error when you try somthing like -->   sudo apt-get install pioneers00:14
KobeSyst1mso i can only access my server thru a browser by typeing the local ipaddress00:14
dr_willisconfused:  so try that command...00:14
ActionParsnipIronsight: tried running it windowed (assuming that is an option)00:15
dr_willissudo apt-get install pioneers00:15
ubuntu-__________-00:15
ActionParsnipIronsight: tried in Unity2D session?00:15
ubuntuI keep having endless pc problems.00:15
ubuntuJust installed GNOME for 12.04 and it wiped my drive.00:15
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IronsightActionParsnip, never tried unity00:15
Guest75472Just installed GNOME for 12.04 and it wiped my drive.... fantastic.00:15
Guest75472On a Live CD now.l00:15
* dr_willis doubts it...00:15
confuseddr_willis  it is in process00:15
Ironsightwhat I tried was right click the jar file and run with oracle java 7...00:15
ActionParsnipGuest75472: Default Ubuntu comes with Gnome by default00:16
Ironsightit gets to the login screen, updates, and goes black00:16
dr_willisIronsight:  the minecraft docs tell the proper command line syntax to run minecraft00:16
ActionParsnipIronsight: try in Unity2D session00:16
confuseddr_willis00:16
confusedProcessing triggers for menu ...00:16
confused was the last command00:16
PissedOffAny idea how to restore my HD? I installed GNOME on 12.04 and it wiped my drive.00:16
dr_willisconfused:  so.. the apt-get system does in fact work.00:16
PissedOffAfter rebooting grub errors.00:16
confuseddr_willis appears to with terminal00:17
KobeSyst1mActionParsnip: i can only reach my server from my own computer (wireless connection) by typing local address\00:17
dr_willisconfused:  you should have a game called 'pioneers'  try running 'pioneers' from the terminal to see.00:17
ActionParsnipPissedOff: I'd use your backups00:17
PissedOffBackups....00:17
confuseddr_willis how to fix the update manager00:17
PissedOffActionParsnip, Explain.00:17
ActionParsnipKobeSyst1m: if you add an entry in /etc/hosts you can use the name00:17
dr_willisconfused:  no idea.. i rarely mess with the gui update manager. i run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' about once a week.00:18
KobeSyst1mActionParsnip: i can access my server from iphone00:18
ActionParsnipPissedOff: data important to you wil have been copied to a removable storage by you, or to another system for safe keeping....a backup00:18
confuseddr_willis it appears to be working...00:18
ActionParsnipPissedOff: so if anything bad happens, you can restore the data00:18
KobeSyst1mActionParsnip: for example i gave u the url earlier and u were able to see my server00:18
PissedOffActionParsnip, It was a fresh install. After installing GNOME it got wiped.00:18
ActionParsnipPissedOff: can you expand on 'wiped' please00:19
KobeSyst1mActionParsnip: i dont understand when im try to access it locally it doesnt let me access it00:19
ActionParsnipPissedOff: a default 12.04 Ubuntu install comes with Gnome desktop by default00:19
PissedOffActionParsnip, Isn't unity different?00:19
nibbler_PissedOff, did you run it from live cd?00:19
PissedOffnibbler_ no.00:19
confusedwooops  clicked the wrong  x  by mistake00:19
dr_willisUnity runs on top of gnome.00:19
ActionParsnipPissedOff: yes, Unity isa shell for the gnome desktop00:19
Gary_inNYChello, what's the terminal command to start the battery indicator applet, since I'm using openbox?00:20
ActionParsnipPissedOff: it replaces Gnome-panel as the default shell00:20
PissedOffnibbler_ I'm on live CD now. When I look at the partition manager it shows a NTFS file for 104 MB and the rest as free space.00:20
confuseddr_willis   so do I have a bug in the manager.00:20
ActionParsnipGary_inNYC: what panel are you useing?00:20
dr_willisconfused:  or a messed up ppa, or other config file.00:20
Gary_inNYCActionParsnip: I'm using tint200:20
dr_willisconfused:  if 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' works.. then the system is updated.00:21
SGT_Saundershi there folks. I'm having a problem with an install.  Mainly getting a resolutiion out of range on my monitor on boot.00:21
nibbler_PissedOff, then just install it again?00:21
confuseddr_willis   Yea. I get that but I dont like the fact that there could be a virus floating around messing with things00:21
dr_willisSGT_Saunders:  grub menu by default uses some of the differnt modes.00:21
dr_willisSGT_Saunders:  you could set it to use a text mode.00:21
MonkeyDustconfused  a virus?00:21
PissedOffnibbler_ I configured loads of apps and such. Guess they're all gone..00:21
PissedOffNo way to reverse it?00:21
ActionParsnipGary_inNYC: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/3232/my-tint2-config   has a tint2 config including battery00:21
dr_willisconfused:  you are being paranoid..  its i doubt if its a 'virus'00:22
lidarMonkeyDust: makes the confusedname even more relevant00:22
SGT_Saunderswillis: I've tried but I can't even access grub to get to  text.00:22
nibbler_PissedOff, do you have an SSD harddrive?00:22
dr_willisSGT_Saunders:  does the system actually boot to a desktop/login screen?00:22
SGT_Saunderswillis: no00:22
PissedOffnibbler_ no00:22
dr_willisSGT_Saunders:  ive had a few box's where i cant see grub. but they do boot after the normal delay.00:22
ActionParsnipGary_inNYC: https://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure#Battery00:22
dj_ryaninstaller and preseed: how do i get the hostname to come from dhcp?00:23
dr_willisSGT_Saunders:  sounds like you got deeper issues then. so what does the sytem do exactly when you power it up?00:23
ActionParsnipPissedOff: so...how do you mean 'wiped'  you never said00:23
confuseddr_willis   Well, it is being adversely affected in a way that it shouldn't.. I realize you and a select few here have a VAST knowledge as I have see some of you helping so many for so long, but if we cant explain something tht doesnt mean there isn't cause to be paranoid.. I thank you for your help though.00:23
nibbler_PissedOff, ok... well... guess itsnot easy to restore anything, yet possible. but as its not yet clarified what went wrong (installing gnome certainly did not cause this) it could only be guessing00:23
dr_willisconfused:  your screenshots also seem to show you are using 'Zorin' which has its own support channels.00:24
SGT_Saunderswillis: i'm converting and 3yr old Emachine with AMD64 single core with 2gb ram and appearantly a Nvidia GFX on MOBO.  I get splash then the post and then the out of range.00:24
PissedOffhttp://www.techdrivein.com/2012/06/25-things-i-did-after-installing-ubuntu.html00:24
PissedOffI did everything in that list, the reinstalled00:24
dr_willisconfused:  so it may be some weird quirk with their repos that we cant recreate00:24
PissedOffGrub errors, I pop in a live cd and see a LOT of free space.00:24
nibbler_confused, what happens if you click "install updated"?00:25
confuseddr_willis I wish I knew where to go for zorin help.. It is Ubuntu platform though isnt it?00:25
ActionParsnipconfused: #zorinOS00:25
dr_willisconfused:  start with the zorin homepage.. and see if they have an irc channel. techinally this channel does NOT do zorin support. so you would normally be on your own.00:25
dr_willisI just recognized the Screenshot from todays Disrtowatch web page. :)00:26
confusednibbler   It looks like it is trying to install or check something then the updater shows the same thing//00:26
lauratikahi i got a new all in one lenovo with damn! windows 7 for some reason i need to leave the windows as it it... how can i create a new table partition with 16 gb for OS and 200 gb for files plus the windows partition_00:26
ActionParsnipPissedOff: not seeing anything overly exciting there00:26
confusedWell I thank all for a great effort in this Nagging issue.. It has been going on for weeks and I will try to find Zorin Help.. Thanks again all.00:27
ActionParsnipPissedOff: what do you see when you log in?00:27
dr_willisI really dont see much point in ZorinOS.. but i guess use what you want.00:27
PissedOffActionParsnip: I can't login. Grub errored00:27
SGT_Saundersbrb00:27
ActionParsnipPissedOff: then boot to liveCD and reinstate grub200:27
PissedOffActionParsnip: I use a 12.04 Live CD and see that my partitions have been wiped.00:27
PissedOffSo I don't think it would help.00:27
ActionParsnipPissedOff: nothing is wiped at all, just the grub is faulty00:27
ActionParsnipPissedOff: as in no partitions?00:28
confuseddr_willis   good point I may be formatting soon..00:28
PissedOffAs in 104 MB partition and the rest free space.00:28
PissedOffYes.00:28
dr_willisconfused:  if you want an old-skool type look/desktop use Lubuntu00:28
SGT_Saundersback00:28
nibbler_PissedOff, can you nopaste 'sudo fdisk -l' please?00:28
ActionParsnipPissedOff: is it an SSD?00:28
KobeSyst1mdoes anyone know why i cant access my server locally by using a domain name00:28
confuseddr_willis   Ill look into it thx for the tip00:28
PissedOffnibbler_ sure00:29
PissedOffaction, nope00:29
lauratikaanyone ubuntu_00:29
ActionParsnipKobeSyst1m: what happens if you use nslookup servername00:29
lauratikaplease00:29
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  by ip works?00:29
KobeSyst1meveryon can access it00:29
PissedOff/dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT --- That's all that shows00:29
KobeSyst1mbut me locally00:29
KobeSyst1munless i type the local address00:29
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  can YOU access it by ip# ?00:29
KobeSyst1mlike 192.x.x.x00:29
ActionParsnipPissedOff: you could use testdisk to make the same partitions and fsck them (assuming you know the sizes)00:29
KornKagewhere do i set environment variable "export RTLSDR_DRIVER=1" ?00:29
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  can YOU access it by the other Internet ip#?00:29
PissedOffActionParsnip, I know how large they were, but not exactly for one of them00:30
dr_willisKornKage:  for a single user? or all users?00:30
dr_willisKornKage:  what is that supposed to do exactly anyway?00:30
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: no00:30
KobeSyst1mnot locally00:30
nibbler_KobeSyst1m, are you sure you have a FQDN that is properly configured, or is it just a hostname you setup?00:31
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  sounds like the server is not set to listen to all the ports/ip ranges in its settings..00:31
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: type philanoues.com00:31
PissedOffnibbler_ /dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT is all that shows after sudo fdisk -l00:31
nibbler_PissedOff, then your fdisk is broken, as it should create way more output (nopaste)00:31
PissedOfffdisk = ?00:32
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: can u access it from you end00:32
Troy^My ubuntu server DNS is not working yet again!00:32
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nibbler_Troy^, your dns server is running on ubuntu, or your ubuntu server utilizes some other dns server? if 2nd: the dns server is broken or the usage of it from within your ubuntu server is broken?00:33
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  i could earlier today.... have you done anything to it in the last few hours?00:34
Troy^dns is my router... worked earlier and all the other comps on my network work fine. except the ubuntu box is static00:34
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: nibbler_ i just tried it with my iphone and it works00:34
nibbler_Troy^, dig cnn.com @IP-OF-YOUR-ROUTER00:34
dr_willisKobeSyst1m: ... so... the problem was what exactly?00:34
ActionParsnipTroy^: add an entry in /etc/hosts if it's static, makes resolution instantaneous00:35
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: my mac that is connected wireless00:35
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: cant access it by its cannonnical name00:35
Troy^what is the parameter? nameserver 192.168.2.100:35
nibbler_Troy^, and if you want to use your router from your ubuntu as a dns server, make sure you have "nameserver IP-OF-YOUR-ROUTER" in /etc/resolv.conf00:35
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  you mean on your Local Lan? If one pc on the lan cant access it.. sounds liek theres firewall settings, or a dns, or hostname resolving issue.. if the ip works.. why not use the ip.00:35
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: so when i type 192.168.0.25400:35
Troy^nibbler_: it is there00:36
leaperHi00:36
leaperI install Ubuntu on my windows with Wubi00:36
nibbler_Troy^, the dig works?00:36
leaperNow I'm getting the LTS00:36
leaperI had someone reccommend kubuntu over ubuntu00:36
leaperWhat's the difference?00:37
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: i can only access it when i type 192.168.0.25400:37
ActionParsnipleaper: depends which apps you prefer and the desktop itself00:37
KobeSyst1mis there something i need to enable in my router00:37
Troy^nibbler_: what was i suppose to get from it it came back with jumps00:37
KobeSyst1mi just got my internet connected00:37
Troy^or hits00:37
KobeSyst1mand something is not getting laoine00:37
roxleaper: the desktop environment, ubuntu had Gnome installed by default, and kubuntu has KDE00:37
KobeSyst1malone*00:37
ActionParsnipleaper: I'd hit up youtube etc, there will be vids00:37
KobeSyst1malong*00:37
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  quick work around.. add a entry in /etc/hosts for it.. and use whatever name you want.. I always use ip# for all my machines on my lan.. NEVER their names..00:37
leaperActionParsnip: Ubuntu is cool in my head, so I'm not picky00:37
leaperBut the things that matter are: speed00:37
KornKagedr_willis i don't think it matters, because its only me on and my ubuntu00:37
dr_willisInternet settings on the router wont be affecting the local LAN host name finding stuff for the lan machines00:38
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: but why should i change it00:38
ActionParsnipleaper: if you use a light destop like LXDE (default in Lubuntu) it will use fewer resources and be faster00:38
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: i have philaneous.com00:38
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leaperRight now I have regular old Ubuntu00:38
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: i think it has to do something with the wireless00:38
Troy^arg00:38
roxleaper: well, regular old ubuntu has Gnome installed00:39
nibbler_Troy^, if it has answers for you, the dns works... if you are unsure about the result, just nopaste it. please nopaste: dig cnn.com @8.8.8.8; dig cnn.com @YOUR-DNS-SERVER; dig cnn.com; ping heise.de; cat /etc/resolve.conf00:39
leaperYes00:39
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: im going to grab an ethernet cable and see if i can type philaneous.com00:39
dr_willisKobeSyst1m: hook up a wired connectin and see..00:39
KornKagedr_willis i think the problem that i have is that i don't quite understand the diffence between system variable and environment variable, and where to put each , in case these are not the same00:39
leaperIs KDE a better desktop environment?00:39
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: yeah00:39
nibbler_!better00:39
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.00:39
roxleaper: kubuntu would have KDE, which is a different desktop environment00:39
ActionParsnipleaper: there is no outright 'better' or 'best'00:39
ActionParsnipleaper: try it, see if you like it00:39
dr_willisKornKage:   I cant say ive ever heard the term 'SYstem Variable' used.. an Enviromental variable is a feature of the shell.00:39
roxleaper: it's a question of preference, rather then quality00:39
KornKagedr_willis its on gnss-sdr README telling me to do it to probably enable rtlsdr(usb SDR device)00:40
roxleaper: i, for instance, run xubuntu00:40
leaperOk00:40
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roxleaper: which has xfce installed by default00:40
dr_willisKornKage:  system wide /etc/profile would be a likely place to set it.00:40
leaperWhat's xubuntu use?00:40
ActionParsnipleaper: XFCE00:40
ActionParsnipleaper: with xfwm4 as the WM00:40
leaperAre there like pics of all the different enviros?00:41
ActionParsnipleaper: Kubuntu uses Kwin and Ubuntu uses Compiz00:41
Troy^nibbler_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1178886/00:41
roxleaper: google is your friend00:41
ActionParsnipleaper: sure, search the web00:41
leaperK00:41
leaperAnd what's Lubuntu?00:41
KornKagedr_willis i will give you the README, https://gnss-sdr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gnss-sdr/trunk/README00:41
ActionParsnipleaper: LXDE + openbox on Ubuntu00:41
roxleaper: http://www.google.si/search?q=lubuntu&num=100&hl=sl&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=eyc&channel=cs&prmd=imvnsal&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6FhBUJPjErTO4QTjt4CoAw&ved=0CFMQsAQ&biw=1406&bih=109400:41
roxleaper: http://www.google.si/search?q=kubuntu&num=100&hl=sl&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tVlBUKzhPMaB4ATH9oCQAQ&ved=0CEwQsAQ&biw=1406&bih=109400:42
lidar!google > leaper00:42
ubottuleaper, please see my private message00:42
ActionParsniprox: one reraon to not use google00:42
KornKagei have put the system variables on .bashrc file(as root)00:42
leaperK00:42
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/26318/environment-variable-vs-shell-variable-whats-the-difference00:42
dr_willisKornKage:  root has his own .bashrc that i doubt gets read/used very much00:42
dr_willisKornKage:  that would definatly NOT affect all users.00:42
ActionParsnipleaper: there is nothing stopping you installing all the desktops and tryingthem all (except storage space)00:43
leaperYea00:43
leaperThe comp I'm using is a cheap Toshiba Satellite from a couple years ago00:43
roxleaper: it is good to know, that all those desktop environments are in ubuntu, it's just a question of which one is installed by default00:43
leaperLike a forerunner test comp00:43
dr_willisKornKage:  for a single user. you could put the export line at the end of their .bashrc00:43
leaperOk00:43
leaperWell thanks for everything00:44
leaperJust wondering00:44
roxleaper: which means, if you install from kubuntu cd, with a single command you can turn that kubuntu into lubuntu or xubuntu or ubuntu - whichever you prefer00:44
ActionParsnipleaper: go crazy then, once you find what you like, wipe it all off and just install what you like00:44
leaperAnd oh yea, what does it mean by CD?00:44
ratcheerLOL00:44
leaperI suppose like a 138mb floppy disc wont work?00:44
ActionParsnipleaper: in what context?00:45
leaperFor installing Desktop LTS00:45
KornKagedr_willis ok , thank you00:45
Troy^arrgg now all my comps on the network are having DNS problems00:45
dr_willis138mb floppy disc?00:46
leaperSomething like that00:46
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roxleaper: would you please give me your dealer's phone number?00:48
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: i tried access it thru my ps3 (wireless)00:48
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: no luckl00:48
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: i tried ethernet00:48
leaperWhat?00:48
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  by ip# or name? or what exactly....00:48
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: something is fucking it up locally00:48
roxleaper: just joking00:48
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: i tried by the domain name00:48
leaperIs a 138mb floppy disc unusual?00:49
roxleaper: 138MGB floppy disk is a pretty bizzare thing to say00:49
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: it only works when i type 192.168.0.25400:49
leaperI have no iidea what it ia00:49
leaperIs*00:49
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leaperIts something like that00:49
dr_willisKobeSyst1m:  dosent really make a lot of sence to go 'out to the internet' to connect to a server that is directly on the local lan.00:49
Troy^i don't understand how i could have so many dns problems00:50
ActionParsnipleaper: you'll need a 700Mb CD, a 4.7Gb DVD or a 1Gb USB stick (or SD card)00:50
leaperThanks00:50
leaperI have a 1gb usb00:50
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: it only works when i type 192.168.0.25400:51
leaperNot sure if my old comp can boot with a usb tho, ill try00:51
KobeSyst1mdr_willis: type philaneous.com00:51
bobweaverKobeSyst1m,  what in the hosts file ?00:51
roxleaper: a CD is a safe choice of installation media00:53
leaperWhere do I buy one of these mystical "CD" thingies?00:53
roxleaper: hmm, in pretty much any computer store, bookstore, most general stores, gas stations, etc00:54
roxleaper: have you not heard of CD or DVD disks?00:55
* rox will brb00:55
leaperDVDs are for movies rright?00:55
moesThey can also be used for operating system etc00:56
leaperIll stick with a USB, thanks though00:56
leaperThat is if it works...00:57
cineadfyi - dvd drives won't boot from ubuntu iso on a CD00:59
ratcheercinead: What? I do it all the time.01:00
cineadnot mine ... usually drive reads both, but I installed today one that is just dvd01:01
cineadtook me an hour to figure out what I was doing wrong01:01
ActionParsnipcinead: will if you grab the DVD ISO01:02
cineadyep.  just burned the iso to a dvd and it worked fine.01:03
dr_willissounds like a hardware failure on the drive...01:04
dr_willisor an old drive that couldent handle the cd+r or -r or whatever it used to be.01:05
HeatSeekerHi, I can not longer access the graphical login screen on ubuntu 12.04.01:06
HeatSeekerno longer*01:06
krababbelHeatSeeker: what exactly happens?01:06
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HeatSeekerI can't remember the error message, would it have auto-logged to a file or should I reboot quick?01:07
krababbelHeatSeeker: you mean it won't automatically start and what happens then?01:08
spaceace85Can someone recommend a COMPATIBLE PCI-Express Sound card with SPDIF Coax outputs for Ubuntu?01:08
dr_willisnot a lot we can do with the vagueness of the  informnation...01:08
ActionParsnipdr_willis: wow totally forgot the + - thing01:08
dr_willisActionParsnip:  :) yep.. us old timers can rember when that was the 'big' debate of the day01:09
HeatSeekerit just stops at a text screen, but I can access the command line login via alt F1-6, and start x manually there.01:09
HeatSeekerI think it might me lightdm that's broken but I'm not sure01:09
ActionParsnipdr_willis: 'i have a drive that does both'....'no way that's awesome'01:09
dr_willisActionParsnip:  :)   Then there was  all the formats/variants the died off.. (I recall self desctucting DVD movies) ;P01:10
NoCodeHi, is there anyway to change the spacing between each 'quick launch' icon in gnome-panel in 12.04?01:10
krababbelHeatSeeker: for me lightdm often won't start automatically either. It shows me console tty1 instead and I have to start lightdm manually.01:10
BluesKajspaceace85, I use a m-audio audiophile 192 , with spdif coax output , works greatt01:10
spaceace85BluesKaj, thanks - you using this with XBMC with no dramas?01:11
joobieguys does ubuntu run grub or grub2 natively?01:11
HeatSeekerkrababbel: starting lightdm doesn't work for me, I get the same screen as I was on before.01:11
dr_willis!grub201:11
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:11
levanderBluesKaj: that's your audio card or your speakers?01:11
ReXiOHello. Does anyone have the md5 Hashes for the image ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ?01:11
dr_willisgrub2 has been the default for like 3 years. ;)01:11
ReXiOI can only find the hashes of the old 12.04 desktop image here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes01:11
levanderBluesKaj: what speakers do you use?01:11
krababbelHeatSeeker: had that too, I tried xdm, also problems sometimes, reinstalled lightdm, and now at least I can start it like that.01:11
krababbelHeatSeeker: no idea01:11
trismReXiO: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/MD5SUMS01:12
krababbelxdm would break pulseaudio01:12
ActionParsniptrism: nice01:12
ReXiOtrism, thanks01:12
ActionParsnipReXiO: or http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS01:12
dr_williswhy would xdm break pulse audio?01:12
krababbeldr_willis: after I logged in, pulseaudio couldn't access the hw, it fell back to a dummy output, but not always :p01:13
dr_willisor course pulse audio dosent seem to make sounds here  untill i get logged in. :) i get no login sounds...  using my hdmi monitor as audio.. but i do if i use normal speakers..01:13
joobieis there a command i can run to see what version of grub i have installed?01:13
dr_willisgrub --version   perhaps.01:14
joobiei did dpkg --get-selections and i see some grub ones and one grub2-common one01:14
ActionParsnipjoobie: apt-cache policy grub*01:14
HeatSeekerWould it be worth me just switching to gdm or something?01:14
BluesKajspaceace85, I tried xbmc and it worked fine , but I prefer a simpler approach with VLC ...but one thing to remember thses pci cards need pulseaudio and pavucontrol , which is basically immaterial in terms of audio quaility since it's a digital passthru01:14
krababbeldr_willis: don't know, I had issues with login managers since I installed this. I installed a command line only first, then added xorg, xdm and a window manager however.01:14
ActionParsnipHeatSeeker: worth a try01:14
spaceace85BluesKaj, thanks :)01:14
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dr_williskrababbel:  sounds like some support services are not gettting started01:15
krababbellooked alright at the boot screen01:15
BluesKajspaceace85, good luck with your search :)01:15
BluesKajthere are others that work well too01:16
krababbelsomeone here mentioned that plymouth is buggy, for example a plymouth script doesn't even have xdm listed among kdm, gdm... Don't know what happens really though.01:16
krababbeldr_willis: currently it works, I just have to start lightdm manually after i login to tty101:17
dr_williskrababbel:  start it from rc.local after a slight delay. :)01:17
dr_willisslim - desktop-independent graphical login manager for X1101:18
krababbeldr_willis: also the same thing worked on a virtual test install I had done before. Thanks, will try these.01:18
ActionParsnipslim is badass01:18
joobieActionParsnip, it says alot of 1.99 versions01:18
joobiedoes that mean im running grub not grub2?01:18
ActionParsnipjoobie: then its grub201:18
dr_willisjoobie:  that is grub2 then...01:18
dr_willisdont ask for the logic of the grub devs.. ;)01:19
ActionParsnipjoobie: its been the default since Karmic back in 200901:19
joobieI don't get it01:19
joobiewhen i do01:19
ActionParsnipjoobie: what is the issue01:19
Haliganhas anyone had a god experience running ubuntu on a macbook pro. If so dual boot or virtual?01:19
joobieapt-cache show grub2, it says something about "GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package) This is a dummy transitional package to handle GRUB 2 upgrades.  It can besafely removed."01:19
dr_williswhats sort of scary is the features grub2 has 'in the works' or just not enabled by default.. its got some really nifty features..01:20
dr_willisjoobie:  so? its a transitional package for people upgradeing from eralier reelases..01:20
dr_willisthe actual package name is grub-pc i belive01:20
dr_willis!info grub-pc01:20
ubottugrub-pc (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version). In component main, is optional. Version 1.99-21ubuntu3.1 (precise), package size 136 kB, installed size 463 kB (Only available for any-i386; any-amd64; any-powerpc; any-ppc64; any-sparc; any-mipsel; i386; kopensolaris-i386; amd64; powerpc; ppc64; sparc; mipsel; kfreebsd-i386; kfreebsd-amd64)01:20
ActionParsnipjoobie: there are many metapackages like that, makes life easier01:20
lidardr_willis: the boot .iso is next grub2 feature i plan on using01:20
joobiethis is a fresh install.. if it's using grub2, why ist ehre a transitional package on there? why is it called grub2 when im supposedly runnning grub2?01:20
danawar2Hey #ubuntu a program called REMMINA a remote desktop client has appeared on my computer for no reason should i be worried?01:21
dr_willislidar:  been using that for ages. ;)  keeping a whole .iso file (or several) on your /boot/ partition for easy rescues/reinstalls/other testing.. comes in handy01:21
dr_willis!info remmina01:21
ubotturemmina (source: remmina): remote desktop client for GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu6.1 (precise), package size 130 kB, installed size 360 kB01:21
ActionParsnipdanawar2: its probably brought in by the ubuntu-desktop metapackage. It is in a default install. I wouldn't be worried at all01:22
joobieActionParsnip, im just trying to find out if grub can load /boot from a software raid 501:22
dr_willisbbl01:22
joobieActionParsnip, started reading into it all and maybe grub2 can, but then i tried to figure out what version grub i had installed and it went downhill from there01:22
danawar2ActionParsnip: Do you think it might have installed a server and someone is trying to control my PC?01:22
ActionParsnipjoobie: i believe it depends on the hardware.01:22
ActionParsnipdanawar2: not at all01:22
danawar2ActionParsnip: The icon has never been up in the top right and it has just suddenly appared O.o01:22
lidardanawar2: if someone is controlling your pc .. atleast someone is getting some use from it !01:23
joobieActionParsnip, how so?01:23
SGT_Saundersokay I want to thank pissedoff for the link. It helped. Now I'm in the OS and I have updated teh GFX driver.  Now it detects my monitor as a laptop monitor and will not go above 640 x 480.01:23
danawar2lidar: i dont know what that is meant to mean...01:23
NoCodeHi, is there anyway to change the spacing between each 'quick launch' icon in gnome-panel in 12.04?01:24
luftikussdanawar2: You should not worry about remmina.01:24
krababbelslim works :)01:25
joobieActionParsnip, how does the hardware come into play with grub supporting software raid 5 for /boot?01:25
Troy^i have my ports forwards but still cant seem to ssh using my external ip address01:27
krababbelTroy^: that is vague01:28
jakempIs there a way to detect or insert a callback when a program is returning from a context switch?01:29
Troy^krababbel: i don't know how i could be more specific lol01:29
krababbelwhat error01:29
ActionParsnipjoobie: not sure, thats all i've seen of raid. Ive only used hard raid in linux when i've used raid01:29
btcbuy314where would be a good place to put a sound file for a function i am putting in .bashrc01:29
ActionParsnipbtcbuy314: ~/Music maybe, or maka a hidden folder for it01:30
btcbuy314i want to put it somewhere that anyone can access so not in home01:30
ActionParsnipbtcbuy314: anywhere will do really, as long as you have read access to the file anywhere will do01:33
ActionParsnipbtcbuy314: just not in /dev or /proc01:33
spioukihey  is  Wine bottle management safe?01:34
spioukianybody  has ever tried it before01:34
spiouki?01:34
spioukiseems hard to remove softwares from wine I think i need it01:35
spioukinobody there???????????/01:38
spioukicmon where are you guys?01:38
spioukieven the bots are gone01:39
matts45acpcan someone tell me why when i log into classic gnome my log off shutdown and restart applet is gone01:39
trismmatts45acp: 12.04? alt+right click the panel, add to panel, indicator applet complete01:41
matts45acptris, linux mint 1301:42
lidar!mint01:42
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:42
linusHello01:47
linusI appear to be having a issue with my audio01:48
linuscan anyone assist me?01:49
linusI guess not01:50
jakrhow can i change default boot order with multiple OS installed?01:55
ActionParsnipjakr: do you want windows to be first?01:56
jakryes i do01:57
ActionParsnipjakr: shouldv've just said so ;)01:57
ActionParsnipjakr: gimme a sec01:57
allureHi! I've changed a variable on my.cnf (mysql-server conf) and it won't take it even after a service restart nor reboot... what should I do?01:57
jakrif I do not select windows after ten seconds of the boot screen, it goes into linux mint01:57
ActionParsnipjakr: sudo mv /etc/grub.d01:58
ActionParsnipoops01:58
ActionParsnipsec01:58
ActionParsnipjakr: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/08_os-prober01:58
ActionParsnipjakr: sudo update-grub01:59
jakrActionParsnip, thats it?02:00
ActionParsnipjakr: yes, 2 commands02:00
jakrand what will that do exactly and how did you come up with 'em?02:00
ActionParsnipjakr: the number in front dictates the order, so you moved the os prober (windows one) to the top by making it lower then the linux files02:01
jakrok thanks02:02
jakris sudo the equivalent to the windows registry?02:02
ActionParsnipjakr: no, sudo means 'do it as root'02:02
alluresuper user do02:02
allureor something :)02:02
ActionParsnipjakr: as your user is only a user, it just has access to do admin tasks by using sudo (and gksudo for gui apps)02:02
jakrokk02:03
jakrActionParsnip, have you used linux mint?02:03
ActionParsnipjakr: tried it and didn't like it02:03
jakrsomething about the mouse sensitivity is different from windows02:04
ActionParsnipjakr: mint isn't supported here02:04
bazhang!mintsupport | jakr02:05
ubottujakr: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:05
allureI've changed a variable on my.cnf (mysql-server conf) and it won't take it even after a service restart nor reboot... what should I do?02:05
ActionParsnipallure: ask in #mysql too02:05
allureActionParsnip, yeah, no answer there too :)02:06
allureActionParsnip, google was not of any help as well ...02:06
ActionParsnipallure: tried duckduckgo ?02:06
allureWhy would DDG find something google woudn't?02:07
UbuntuDudeDunno if anyone is interested in my solution from earlier, a bash script allowing the insertion of a custom command into rc.local ---> http://pastebin.com/sB8GiWuB02:07
ActionParsnipallure: it doesn't bubble you and it uses a different search method02:07
ActionParsnipallure: so may give different results02:07
wolfricwhen you go "connect to server" and connect to ssh and get a folder view of the files there, is this mounted somewhere on the filesystem i can browse to?02:08
hcecilia??02:08
ActionParsnipwolfric: run:  mount02:08
allureActionParsnip, still don't see the logic :)02:08
ActionParsnipallure: its like looking in 2 libraries for a book, one library doesn't have it, so try another02:08
driiperHello! Is there anyone here that know how i can drop rejected packages instead of blocking them in the UFW firewall on ubuntu?02:08
wolfricActionParsnip: it's nowhere listed there02:08
lotuspsychje!firewall | dripper02:08
ubottudripper: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.02:09
jakrActionParsnip, thankyou02:09
allureActionParsnip, it's like asking two librarian to search on the same library :)02:09
wolfricthe files still appear in "recent files" though02:09
ActionParsnipallure: duifferent search engines use different methods to find results, so using a different search engine with the same search string will give different results02:09
allureActionParsnip, yes, but for this problem I would have found an answer on any of it if there was one02:09
driiperlotuspsychje: i know what a firewall is, the problem is to manage it correcly. ive been trying for several hours now but cant seem to get it to work.02:09
ActionParsnipallure: just because crappy gogle can't find it doesn't man it doesn't exist02:09
hceciliaall user must use english?02:10
lotuspsychjedriiper: try to describe what you wanna do in chat, more change other will be able to help02:10
bazhanghcecilia, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese02:10
hceciliao~oh thank02:11
driiperIs there anyone that know how i can change the default reject method to DROP instead of BLOCK in the UFW firewall?02:11
ActionParsnipallure: http://www.howtoforge.com/mysql_database_replication02:13
lotuspsychjedriiper: the url showed on firewall shows iptables howto, also the DROP method...02:13
ActionParsnipallure: http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/wheres-my-cnf-file02:14
ActionParsnipallure: https://blogs.oracle.com/rainy/entry/why_isn_t_mysql_using02:15
ActionParsnipallure: that seems to be the one you want02:15
ActionParsnipallure: let me know how you go02:16
allureActionParsnip, thank you, reading through it02:18
ActionParsnipallure: all found with duckduckgo...have you seen those pages at all?02:18
allureActionParsnip, I was reading some other ones, this one in particular has the same problem related: http://serverfault.com/questions/394651/mysql-my-cnf-ignored02:19
Lionizeanyone able to help a linux newb execute an ata secure erase using hdparm command?02:23
ActionParsnipLionize: why not just use dd02:23
Lionizedd? not familiar02:24
ActionParsnipLionize: sudo if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg     to blank off /dev/sdg   with zeros02:25
ActionParsnipsomething like taht02:25
ActionParsnip Lionize: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg02:25
ActionParsnipLionize: obviously change /dev/sdg to the drive you want to erase02:26
LionizeActionParsnip: i have a ssd and understand that secure erase is only reliable sanitization method for ssd's02:26
ActionParsnipLionize: you only need a single sweep to blank it02:26
allureActionParsnip, none of those helped, but this looks primising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142709902:27
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ActionParsnipallure: what I used: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=my.cnf+mysql+reread02:28
allureActionParsnip, mine was found on google.com, 3rd result with the search "my.cnf ignored"02:28
ActionParsnipallure: but you want mysql to reread the file after you made changes...02:28
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allureActionParsnip, I want it not to ignore the changes because it is being read just not taking action on it02:29
ActionParsnipallure: what about if you reboot?02:29
allureActionParsnip, done that.. now trying to put stuff in the right section, like that site has suggested02:30
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epochhello02:30
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LionizeActionParsnip: so secure erase is not required for wiping a ssd?02:32
ActionParsnipLionize: no, a single sweep of zeros will be fine02:32
Guest44722who here remebers lilo the person ?02:33
lotuspsychjeLionize: some ssd brands might requier a firmware update from their site aswell02:34
Lionizethank lotuspsychje, i will do that first02:35
bazhang!ot | Guest4472202:37
ubottuGuest44722: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:37
lotuspsychjeLionize:what brand are you gonna install on wich ubuntu version?02:37
tarvidi want to share a USB printer connected to this desktop with MAC and Windows users, how do I do that02:37
bazhangtarvid, check the printer at linuxprinting.org database, for the first step02:38
tarvidit prints fine locally02:38
Lionizelotuspsychje: my ssd is Kingston and the ubuntu version is 12.04 i think02:38
bondjhello02:38
lotuspsychjeLionize: 32 or 64bit?02:39
tarvidI have samba server configuration up but I deon't know how to add a printer only directories02:39
Lionizelotuspsychje: 64bit02:39
lotuspsychjeLionize: nice mate that will be rock fast02:39
ActionParsniptarvid: do you have a desktop UI?02:40
Lionizelotuspsychje: right on, screamin fast it is.02:40
lotuspsychjeLionize: i installed precise 12.04.1 64bit in 13 minutes on a transcend ssd02:40
AnDsOtravid:https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html02:40
tarvidYes Unity at the moment02:41
ActionParsniptarvid: if you open the printer dialogue, you can share printers there02:41
tarvidI markied it as shared there02:41
ActionParsniptarvid: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the printer share?02:42
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tarvidIgnoring unknown parameter "update encrypted"02:43
NoCodecan ext4 read/write to ntfs, as well as ntfs read/write to ext4?02:45
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lidarNoCode: thats like asking if a concrete road can be a blacktop road and viceversa02:45
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NoCodeIS IT02:46
CrowlerNoCode NO02:46
NoCodeWHERE THE HELL DOES MASONRY COME TO MIND WHEN YOU'RE USING UBUNTU?02:46
lotuspsychje!caps | NoCode02:47
ubottuNoCode: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:47
lidarNoCode: i was trying to use a simple term that you may be able to relate to02:47
NoCode!caps | Crowler02:47
ubottuCrowler: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:47
tarvidActionParsnip, running smbtree returns an error message Ignoring unknown parameter "update encrypted"02:47
lidar!spam > NoCode02:47
NoCode!abuse > lidar02:48
ubottulidar, please see my private message02:48
lidarlotuspsychje: what have you broken today ?02:48
NoCodeAnyway, I'll try the ntfs-3g driver02:48
lotuspsychjelidar: lol funny...i had some prmosing hints yesterday, but again did not fix my square mouse02:49
wan26!ot | lotuspsychje02:49
ubottulotuspsychje: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:49
lotuspsychjewan26??02:49
lotuspsychjelidar: a guy showed me some compiz settings to lower, but didnt do the trick02:50
NoCodeIt's pretty weird that I can open a mounted ntfs folder in Ubuntu, make a new folder. Close nautilus, open it again to see a folder there still.02:51
ActionParsnipNoCode: why so?02:52
NoCodeI remember years ago that i could not do that.02:52
ActionParsnipNoCode: ntfs-3g isn't taht old :)02:52
NoCodeI couldn't write to a ntfs02:52
ActionParsnipNoCode: funny how Linux can access proprietary ntfs, but crappy windows can't access ext4 despite the data structure been freely available02:53
NoCodeActionParsnip, hmm, it can't?02:53
ActionParsnipNoCode: not at all02:53
NoCodeActionParsnip, can it with ext3?02:54
ActionParsnipNoCode: according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntfs-3g it started in 200602:54
ActionParsnipNoCode: with 3rd party software you can get read access only02:54
NoCodedamn02:54
Erinreally slow read access too..02:54
Erinin my experience.02:54
CrowlerNoCode now you can write to ntfs volumes. also you can go past ntfs user rights, path depth and charset limitation, making files unreadable under windows02:55
NoCodewell, actually. Confusingly so, I think I did the right thing. Yeah. ntfs for windows, ntfs for storage partition, ext4 for ubuntu. So either-or can access the data.02:55
NoCodeDoes that sound right?02:56
ErinNoCode, its only the right way because of microsoft02:56
NoCodeyea02:56
NoCodeSadly02:56
Erin       I have a hard time calling it the "right" way02:56
ActionParsnipNoCode: sounds good, accommodate the Windows OS shortcomings :)02:56
Erinbut it is the way that will give you the least problems02:56
ActionParsnipNoCode: personally I use a fileserver, so the format is moot :). Both OSes access it the same02:57
NoCodeWell, I can't call it the proper way either. Been away from Linux for too long to get another full debian installation. So, that'll have to wait a while before I do that again.02:57
ErinI love linux so much I am backing up my wifes laptop using DD over the network to my samba server. 1 command I copy the whole disk get MB/s reading timer of copy and total data copied so far. Best part is no need to take the ssd out.02:57
NoCodeActionParsnip, cool, what is the fileserver formatted to?02:58
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ActionParsnipNoCode: ext402:58
NoCodehrm02:58
ijathy guys02:59
NoCodeAnother question: If I install KDE, is there anyway to keep gnome programs on the gnome DE, and KDE programs on the KDE DE?03:00
NoCodeI don't want that stuff intermixed.03:00
Cattadoes anyone feel up to helping me install damn small linux on a dell inspiron 4000? I don't know how to prepare the HD and I am getting errors like "daemon is inhibited" and that the drive is "unmountable" I have read and read, and I would really appreciate a live person with a generous heart.03:02
xanguaCatta: sounds like a dsl question, you should find a propper channel for it03:03
Cattai am in the damn small linux channel. I got the same errors when trying to install in ubuntu 10.4.1 netbook.. , no one is awake in damn small linux channel, but thank you03:04
lidarCatta: people here are ubuntu centric03:05
ActionParsnipCatta: ask in the damn small channel03:06
Cattai burned iso of ubuntu 12.04.1 and also10.04 netbook ..03:06
Cattai would love to install ubuntu 10.0403:06
ErinCatta, what happens when you try to install ubuntu?03:06
lidarCatta: how about we install ubuntu? dsl is cool but fairley useless03:06
ActionParsnipCatta: on low end hardware I'd go for Lubuntu03:06
Cattait says those two errors that i typed in my first question03:07
ErinCatta, It says the drive is unmountable? is this after the formatting part ?03:07
Cattathere is some fundamental thing that i am missing , how to prepare the HD i think? I tried to paritian and formatt03:07
ErinCatta, ubuntu has a gui that can auto-format for you should be no issue unless the HD is failing or bad.03:08
Cattayes, but i am not sure if I did that properly03:08
Erinits like two clicks you tell it to auto format or some equivelant03:08
Cattai removed the parition while in windows (which no longer works of course) and then tried to put in a new one and format it with the ubuntu 10.4003:09
goddardAre there any places more "offical" I can download some themes?03:09
goddardI don't want a million ppas03:09
ErinCatta, can you hit the try ubuntu without installing and then pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l ??03:10
xanguagoddard: gnome-look-org03:10
lidaranyone remember lilo i was wondering if the driver was ever caught03:12
CattaI am rebooting with the 10.04 netbook ubuntu on my dell inspiron 400003:13
ErinCatta, why use 10.04 ?03:13
Erinwe're up to 12.04 :-)03:13
Cattabecause it is the one I have, i mistyped earlier, should I get a different version? This is such an old laptop03:14
ErinCatta, I would use 12.04 i'm sure bugfixes and new hardware compatibility have come along way since 10.0403:14
Erinand maybe the auto-format will work for you on 10.0403:14
RedWar??03:15
Cattathe first error is "the installer encountered an unrecoverable error. a desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again"03:15
ErinCatta, yea I have no idea what that means. Just do your self a favor and grab 12.04 10.04 is two releases behind. It may still be supported cause I think .04 are LTR releases but it's still old....03:16
CattaI will download the 12.04  is there a specific kind i need for my ancient laptop? like netbook edition?03:16
Cattaok I will start looking for 12.0403:16
ErinCatta, someone suggested Lubuntu due to low resources. I prefer xubuntu (xfce) my self it's low resource also but not as much as lubuntu.03:16
lidarCatta: you will be happier with lubuntu using the lxde probably03:16
ErinCatta, I am guessing if its very old you need 32-bit version of ubuntu.03:16
Cattathe computer is 12 yrs old at least03:17
Cattalaptop03:17
ErinCatta, what processor is in it.03:17
Erinoh definently 32-bit then i'd guess..03:17
StudiousI accidentally on purpose deleted my cpu from my sisters board, what to do now?03:17
ErinStudious, lmao.... what does that even mean03:17
ActionParsnipErin: not all .04 release are LTS03:17
ErinActionParsnip, ah whats the cycle then?03:18
ActionParsnipErin: 8.04, 12.04, 14.04, 16.0403:18
ActionParsnipErin: every 2 years03:18
ActionParsnipErin: 10.04 too03:18
CattaI am downloading lubuntu 12.04 iso03:19
lidarCatta: 32 bit ?03:19
Cattayes thank you03:19
ActionParsnipsadly ubuntu 12.04 isn't LTS (annoying)03:19
ErinActionParsnip, oh I thought it was!03:19
ebs512hey guys I need help making a desktop icon launcher to run everything in sudo so I can create/edit files in the /usr /etc directories03:19
ActionParsnipErin: sadly not03:19
ErinCatta, is that the hard drive that came with that laptop IE 12 years old ?03:19
ErinCatta, if so I'd venture it is dying crazy it made it this long HD's usually don't last 12 years...03:20
Cattalet me check the laptop, since i have ubuntu 10.04 open on it but not installed03:20
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joobieguys im trying to install "sgdisk".. I did "apt-get install sgdisk" and it didnt come up.. any idea where to from here?03:22
joobieis there a more general repo i should add ?03:22
ActionParsnip!find sgdisk03:23
ubottuFile sgdisk found in gdisk03:23
ActionParsnipjoobie: sudo apt-get install gdisk03:23
Cattaumm I am having trouble finding the laptops stats, but it has a celeron (coppermine) processor03:23
ebs512is nobody using ubuntu 12.04 that can help me out?03:24
ActionParsnipCatta: cat /proc/cpuinfo03:24
ActionParsnipebs512: ask and see03:24
WeThePeopleebs512, just ask03:24
joobiethanks ActionParsnip03:24
Cong!find gedit03:24
ubottuFound: gedit, gedit-common, gedit-dev, gedit-developer-plugins, gedit-latex-plugin, gedit-plugins, gedit-r-plugin, gedit-valatoys-plugin, gedit-valatoys-plugin-dbg, gedit-valencia-plugin (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gedit&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all03:25
ebs512I forgot how I did this on the desktop but am trying to do it again on the laptop, I made a launcher icon that launches a file explorer with sudo permissions so I can add and edit files03:25
ebs512like in /etc folder03:25
natsirtDoes anyone here understand linux scripting wothot nmap?03:25
ActionParsnipebs512: make it run:  gksudo nautilus $HOME03:25
natsirtjoin #bash03:26
WeThePeoplenatsirt, maybe #nmap03:26
WeThePeopletoo03:27
ebs512How can I make that an icon ActionParsnip, thank you for that03:27
Cattai used that command ActionParsnip  , what info should I share?03:27
Cong!gksudo >cong03:27
ubottuCong, please see my private message03:27
lidarCatta: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep -i mhz03:28
ErinCatta, launch the command "palimpsest" from the terminal and select your hd on the left does it have a green circle for healthy drive or does it report errors ??03:28
ActionParsnipebs512: copy one of the .desktop files from ~/.config/autostart   and edit it03:28
CattaErin: next the smart status is is green circle03:30
Cattai currently have 3 broken laptops and 1 broken netbook and this old one is the most reliable of them all03:31
Crowlerwhat is min ram for lubuntu? it may not run on default inspiron's 128 meg03:31
ErinCatta, lol if you hit smart data button and run self test lets see if it passes03:32
ErinCatta, select extended test, how big is the drive might take a bit.03:32
Cattai did that earlier, i will again, i didnt know what i was checking earlier :D03:32
Cattaits 10gig03:32
Erinoh do the extended test and the conveyance then. since its so small03:32
Erinhow long does it say for power on years?03:33
Cattathis is taking longer because the mouse nub is posessed and it is ignoring my usb mouse somewhat because of this03:33
RedWartest03:33
mangdood_Is there an easy way to print several opendocument files? From command line or something?03:35
foul_owlWhat is the command to update library paths for an elf binary? I have installed libstdc++5 but the binary still can't find it03:35
Cattawhat worries me the most about this inspiron 4000 is that until I plugged it in recently the CD drive did not work for years , so i was stuck with windows, because it does not boot from usb.. now that the cd drive is running i want to hurry and get ubuntu on it!03:35
LionizeActionParsnip: could you please clarify the basic procedure for wiping with "dd" so i can plan this thing out. do you know of a wiki or something i might get some instructions from?03:36
Crowleryou just said you cant unscrew 4 screws for years03:36
lickalottLionize just google dd (ubuntu)03:38
lickalottthere is a pretty comprehensive forum guide on it.03:38
CrowlerLionize you have to feed dd with actual name of your hdd in your system03:39
ActionParsnipLionize: have all partitions on the drive unmounted and then run:    sudo dd if=/dev/zero /dev/sdg     this will go from the start of the storage to the end writing 0s.03:39
lickalottusually dd if=/dev/??? of=/dev/???  where if = input file/drive and of = output file/drive.  Not completely familar with wiping03:39
ActionParsnip!google | lickalott03:39
ubottulickalott: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.03:39
lickalottwell....there you go03:39
lickalottno disrepect intended ActionParsnip, that's what I indicated what to google.  *noted03:40
spioukihey Im compiling a package and I cant configure it. please help03:40
ErinLionize, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/device  (like /dev/sda) you can use sudo fdisk -l to pick which one03:41
ErinLionize, then do sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/device03:41
ActionParsnipspiouki: is there not a PPA for the application?03:42
Cattalidar: what was the command you gave me to do?03:42
foul_owlWhat is the command to update library paths for an elf binary? I have installed libstdc++5 but the binary still can't find it03:43
Lionizewow, i better use google first...03:43
spioukiwhat is ppa. is it deb package?03:43
foul_owlldd shows "libstdc++.so.5 => not found"03:43
ErinLionize, here is a command with a nice progress bar:    sudo dd if=input_file | pv -s `du -bc input_file | cut -f 1 --output-delimiter=" " | head -1` | sudo dd of=output_file03:43
spioukiI cant find any deb package for it its just tar.bz203:43
Crowlerfoul_owl ldconfig? it was so lond ago that im not sure if it is right one03:44
MonkeyDustspiouki  a deb for what?03:44
foul_owlI ran ldconfig, still having the problem :/03:45
Cattacan someone please tell me how to disable the dell inspiron 4000's touchpad and nub mouse? I thought i had it disabled in bios, but it is ghosting and clicking all over the screen.. I already tried in mouse and then keyboard options?03:46
Cattain ubuntu 10.0403:46
Congwon't using sudo for console apps make the specified file be owned by root03:46
systmwhat do i need to do to add universe to apt sources from terminal. I'm ssh'd from a remote laptop03:46
kiyouraCatta, i hope there is a better known solution now, but about 3 years ago i had to take apart my dell latitude c610 and manually 'cut' the line to the nub mouse for it to work in linux03:47
CattaI might try that in the future.03:47
gravity__micro sd card does not mount on ubunut. It does not even show up on camera. It shows up on fedora but I cannot access files. help03:48
ErinCatta, after 12 years you are not thinking about upgrading that laptop ?03:48
spiouki1sorry i got some connection problems did anybody answered my question?03:48
spiouki1about compiling a package?03:49
lidarwb me03:49
Erinsystm, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and include the universe lines, you can find them on google03:49
Erinsystm, then do sudo apt-get update03:49
spiouki1wb03:49
systmthanks Erin03:49
gravity__erin: micro sd card does not mount on ubunut. It does not even show up on camera. It shows up on fedora but I cannot access files. help03:49
CattaI have a dell studio, but my daughter's netbook that I put ubuntu on for her has a broken charger and I am trying to fix this one so that she can do her homework until I can fix the netbook or one of the other paper weights around here03:49
lidarty spiouki103:50
gravity__Erin:micro sd card does not mount on ubunut. It does not even show up on camera. It shows up on fedora but I cannot access files. help03:50
spiouki1I need to compile a bz2 package but I cant configure it03:50
Crowlergravity__ trash it03:50
spiouki1there is no conf file in that folder03:50
gravity__Crowler need the files on it03:50
spiouki1please help03:50
gravity__ready to trash it03:50
lidarspiouki1: what program is it ?03:50
CattaI got her netbook with ubuntu Erin , specifically because I wanted her to learn it! but I had never had experience before then03:50
Crowlergravity__ im not doing data recovery03:51
spiouki1wine bottle management03:51
spiouki1its for uninstalling programs from wine03:51
Eringravity__, pastebin for me sudo fdisk -l03:51
gravity__Crowler: Thanks. do you konw any resources which can help?03:51
Eringravity__, with the card inserted03:51
spiouki1I got it from source forge03:51
gravity__Erin: on it03:51
gravity__yes03:51
Crowlergravity__ i know some, but they are not in english03:52
ErinCatta, just saying a 12 year old computer is really really outdated.03:52
spiouki1and if you used it before I will be happy to give me your comment03:52
CattaErin: I accidentally closed the HD check when I closed the command prompt :(03:52
Anom01yman I cannot do updates all of a sudden in Xubuntu 12.04, I get this error:03:52
Anom01yhttp://www.naturalnews.com/037024_sodium_fluoride_insecticide_proof.html03:52
Anom01yer03:52
FloodBot1Anom01y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:52
Anom01yE: Encountered a section with no Package: header03:52
Anom01yE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA03:52
lidarspiouki1: you dont "need" that03:53
ErinAnom01y, I hate when my computer gets insecticides in it.03:53
Anom01y(sorry didn't mean to paste the link03:53
CattaAt least the 12.04 is almost finished dling03:53
gravity__Erin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179047/03:53
spiouki1so how can i uninstall wine applications?03:53
Anom01ygnome-terminal doesn't accept ctrl-C for copy03:53
Anom01yonly right click -> copy03:53
gravity__Crowler: I will try google translate. can you point me to them?03:53
ErinAnom01y, sudo apt-get -f install03:53
Anom01yErin, thanks03:53
lidarspiouki1: rm -rf ~/.wine will remove all bits of it .. menu items may remain03:53
Crowlergravity__ hdd911.com03:54
Anom01yErin, I get the same error03:54
spiouki1never used that command03:54
xanguaAnom01y: control-shift+c , control+shift+v03:54
lidarspiouki1: it is delete03:54
ErinAnom01y, k hold on03:54
gravity__Crowler: Domain expired03:54
Eringravity__, does not look like the card is showing up the OS03:54
lidarspiouki1: the directory ~/.wine is where allo files settings go03:55
Anom01yErin, http://pastebin.ca/index.php03:55
Anom01y^03:55
spiouki1lidar: can you give me the command for uninstalling software X from wine03:55
gravity__Erin: let me try a different card reader03:55
ActionParsniplidar: why use force?03:55
Crowlergravity__ then i knew some, but not now03:55
ActionParsnipspiouki1: run:  uninstaller03:56
lidarActionParsnip: im a violent person03:56
Anom01yxangua, thanks03:56
ActionParsniplidar: its a bad habit03:56
CattaErin: also, I bought a hp pavillion ze2000, and the power plug into it doesn't work.. then I bought a toshiba satellite, and it stopped working for who knows what reason, it wont even make a blip... and then the dell mini netbook and my studio.. so I have bought other laptops in 12 years, but the old inspiron is the only one i can get to work beside the one i am using right now!03:56
hqmhello!~03:56
ErinAnom01y, sudo dpkg --configure -a03:57
spiouki1did nt work action please give me the complete command I dont know terminals lang03:57
ErinAnom01y, did that work, if not remove any google repositories as it seems to be mad at something google related03:58
lidarspiouki1: run wine ~/.wine/drive_c/program files/x/uninstaller.exe is the polite way from ActionParsnip03:58
Anom01yErin, it didn't work,03:58
ActionParsnipspiouki1: thats all it is:  uninstaller03:58
Anom01yErin, are you talking about /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:58
ErinAnom01y, indeed03:58
ErinAnom01y, then run sudo apt-get update03:59
Anom01yErin, thats  just it, there is no "google" in sources.list03:59
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joobieguys im using this OS called XBMCbuntu, which is a port of Ubuntu04:00
ErinAnom01y, remove anything that isn't *.ubuntu.com*04:00
lidarjoobie: a port to what ?04:01
joobiethe installer doesnt have any options to setup RAID5 software.. is there a work around anyone can think of to get it to install with softwqre raid?04:01
Anom01yok04:01
joobielidar, it's based on ubuntu 11, but they have embedded XBMC onto it04:01
foul_owlOk, I solved the issue. The issue was that my elf binary was compiled for a 32 bit system, it didn't have the 32 bit version of libstdc++5. Thanks for the help!04:01
Catta I booted up lubuntu 12.4 and selected check disk for errors, is that correct?04:01
Anom01ytrying to submit a post to pastebin but its lagging like hell Erin04:01
spiouki1lidar: uninstaller does not exist for that package04:02
Anom01yErin, http://pastebin.com/ethQM3JP04:02
Anom01yI don't see anything relevent to the issue in my sources.list ^ check my pastebin04:03
WeThePeoplejoobie, do you have a question?04:03
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Anom01ythis is the error, Reading package lists... Error!04:04
Anom01yE: Encountered a section with no Package: header04:04
Anom01yE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA04:04
spiouki1ActionParsnip: uninstaller does not exist for that package04:04
ErinAnom01y, can you pastebin your exact error.04:05
Erink nm04:05
ErinAnom01y, some probem with google earth it looks like04:05
WeThePeoplespioukil, are you trying to remove a package04:05
CrowlerAnom01y so what? trash that broken aptlist and re-dl it04:05
Anom01yErin, http://pastebin.com/8QnM168S04:06
joobieWeThePeople, is there a way to get a port of ubuntu 11 which does not have raid support in the installer to install with software RAID or convert it easily after?04:06
ActionParsnipspiouki1: or jus the uninstaller app for the applcation you want to uninstall, just like in windows04:06
ErinAnom01y, yea just delete that file04:07
Anom01yCrowler, I would but not sure what to remove everything looks important04:07
Anom01ydelete sources.list ??!04:07
ErinAnom01y, back it up first.04:07
spiouki1I m doing the same its fun. Thanks ActionParsnip and lidar04:07
ActionParsnipAnom01y: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage04:07
lidarjoobie: that xbmc installs on any linux .. just install ubuntu then install it04:07
ErinAnom01y, no. /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_blah_blah04:07
CrowlerAnom01y you must be blind:  /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA04:07
WeThePeoplespioukil, http://askubuntu.com/questions/101064/uninstall-a-program-installed-with-wine04:08
ErinActionParsnip, I'm gonna snag that also :-D04:08
Anom01yok thanks guys04:09
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Anom01yI deleted /var/lib/apt/dl.google*.*04:10
Anom01yfixed my problems04:10
CattaWhat age is old enough to start with ubuntu?04:10
Anom01yusually dpkg --configure -a  or   sudo apt-get -f install fixes all my issues04:10
Anom01ynot sure how that happened04:10
joobielidar, i want to try stick with xbmcbuntu's port tho04:10
joobieit's just they have used the live cd i think so there's no raid option04:10
CrowlerCatta age of consent04:10
CattaCrowler:  conset to what haha04:11
CrowlerCatta to start with ofc04:11
lidarCatta: your probably old enough since you made it on irc04:12
ActionParsnipErin: its just the commands from the synaptic fix page page, in a script04:12
joobieis there a way to make the liveCD see my preexisting software raid partitoins? if i create them first04:12
jeffrey1790question with mdadm: i replaced a faulty drive in my raid6 array. when adding it back, it shows up as sdg instead of sdg1... does it matter?04:12
ErinActionParsnip, Yea I just have a linux fixes folder that I like to have alot of info in for potential issues and that looks pretty thorough for fixing apt :-)04:12
jeffrey1790md0 : active raid6 sdh[7] sdf1[0] sde1[5] sdd1[4] sdc1[3] sdb1[2] sdg[6]04:13
WeThePeoplejoobie, i do not understand the question04:15
ActionParsnipErin: want my getkey script?04:15
ErinActionParsnip, what key now?04:15
joobieWeThePeople, nevermind04:15
ActionParsnipErin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179062/     useful for when you add PPAs and you don't get the GPG key, just give the script the GPG code and it wil import it for you04:16
spiouki1lidar: still there?04:16
ErinActionParsnip, i've only ever used one ppa04:16
sxh_hello04:17
ErinActionParsnip, don't they always give you the gpg key w/ the ppa info isn't it rquired?04:17
sxh_would i be able to ask for help on this channel?04:17
sxh_or is there a specific ubuntu help channel04:17
Erinsxh_, you're in it04:17
ActionParsnipErin: if you don't use add-apt-repository  then it won't import04:17
spiouki1just for learning purpose i want to know how to install a package without conf file04:18
sxh_oo okay great04:18
spiouki1anybody ? lidar or ActionParsnip04:18
doslovehi guys04:18
sxh_not asking anyone particular but, I tried to partition my hard drive to dual boot ubuntu and windows704:18
sxh_and semi failed04:18
ActionParsnipspiouki1: how do you mean 'conf file?04:18
sxh_if someone can help me out that would be great04:18
Erinsxh_, did you install ubuntu first then windows 7 ?04:18
sxh_Erin, I already had windows 7, and then installed ubuntu via cd04:19
sxh_I semi failed in that luckily i didnt delete the windows partition04:19
sxh_but i cant access04:19
sxh_even if i use f12 at boot04:19
spiouki1I extracted the tar.bz2 file but I cant use the configure command on that directory it does not work04:19
ActionParsnipspiouki1: not all apps need to have configure ran. Did you check the INSTAL or README files?04:20
sxh_if theres a way i can show my gparted screen im sure itll help04:20
WeThePeoplespioukil, did you type ./configure04:20
joobieis there a way to see pre-existing software RAID partitions from the Ubuntu Live CD installer?04:20
AnDsOcheck README or INSTALL file04:20
Congor tried updating the configure script04:20
jeangjoobie - not really, the software configs will be inaccessable04:20
ActionParsnipspiouki1: what are you trying to install?04:21
spiouki1yep04:21
joobiejeang, i cant somehow install mdadm and then run the installer?04:21
userhello everybody !!04:21
lidarspiouki1: yes sort of04:21
sxh_Erin, if I can still see my installed files, documents, etc that means I didn't delete it right?04:22
spiouki1no instal file or readme04:22
jeangjoobie unless you have the configs for the RAID backed up, mdadm will try create a new raid structure and hose the partitions etc04:22
ActionParsnipspiouki1: what are you trying to install?04:22
Erinsxh_, right04:22
spiouki1                  Wine bottle management     beta04:23
spiouki1no going to install it I just want to know how to do it04:23
ActionParsnipspiouki1: is it not in the wine ppa?04:23
Crowlerjoobie is your raid bios made or linux made?04:23
lidarspiouki1: cd into the directory .. ~/.wine/drivec/programfiles/ then rm -rf offensive-program directory04:23
joobieCrowler, linux04:23
sxh_Erin, so basically my windows 7 is under /dev/sda3 while ubuntu is under /dev/sda1 however my windows doesnt have a mount point04:24
sxh_I feel like i simply need to add that04:24
Crowlerjoobie you can hook it up later after install04:24
joobiejeang, cant i like boot the live cd to the shell, install mdadm, configure mdadm partitons, then run the installer and dont specify partition reforatming?04:24
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Erinsxh_, so whats the issue you can't boot in to windows?04:24
joobieCrowler, possible to do it during installation tho?04:25
joobiei can do the after install option.04:25
joobiebut want to try during04:25
CrowlerErin he cant boot linux04:25
sxh_Erin, by default I set it up to boot to ubuntu, however when I press f12 to access the other partition it doesnt exist, which I feel like is due to there being no mount point for it04:25
Erinsxh_, i'd try to reinstall grub?04:25
spiouki1cool thanks lidar and action. and i dont know what is ppa action04:25
sxh_Erin, is there a simpler way in which I can just add the mount point to the windows partition?04:25
Erinsxh_, wait wait so you can boot ubuntu/windows i'm getting confused04:25
jeangjoobie do you have the configs for how the partitions were created?04:25
sxh_Erin, sorry!04:26
spiouki1it does not seem lake wine application04:26
Crowlerjoobie i dont know if mdadm and other tools are part od ubuntu's stage204:26
sxh_Erin, I can only boot ubuntu, windows still exists but isnt showing up when i boot04:26
Crowlerof*04:26
useranybody can help me ?04:26
spiouki1it was tar.bz2 no exe04:26
ActionParsnipuser: without asking a question..no04:26
histo!ask | user04:26
ubottuuser: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:26
joobiejeang, i havent created the partitions yet04:26
WeThePeopleuser, just ask04:26
ActionParsnipspiouki1: i found this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wibom-manage-wine-program-bottles.html04:27
Erinsxh_, so just do a sudo update-grub04:27
Erinsxh_, and reboot.04:27
joobiejeang, i am thinking is it possible to boot to CLI from the live cd, install mdadm, create my partitions, then run the installerand have the installer just see them, not format them04:27
jeangjoobie - ok sorry, thought you had lost a raid array and were trying to get the data back.04:27
sxh_Erin, lol I wish I knew what that meant (I'm noob)04:27
userthat's okay04:27
joobiejeang, nope04:27
spiouki1Thanks ActionParsnip04:27
Erinsxh_, it just tells grub to scan for operating systems and add to the list.04:27
joobieOK how about this04:27
sxh_Erin, oh type that into terminal?04:28
jeangjoobie - actually no idea... sees some trial and error in my future ;-)04:28
joobiefrom the LiveCD, can i boot to shell and then run the installer myself? If so, how?04:28
WeThePeoplesxh_, G.R.U.B = Grand Unified Bootloader04:28
userwell my question is about "ubuntu tweak "  i can't see "gnome sittings" ?04:28
sxh_WeThePeople that sounds pretty cool actually04:28
jeangjoobie you will have to create some form of persistent partition on USB04:28
ActionParsnipuser: I sugest you contact the developer04:29
userhow i can connect with them ?04:29
sxh_Erin, ok did the sudoupdate-grub, and it seemed to find it I think I'm going to restart to check. Thanks a lot!04:29
Erinsxh_, no type it in the air, LOL JK :-)04:29
useri just want to change that ubuntu icon not more04:29
Crowlerjoobie you better ask "what to press to get to console"04:29
WeThePeoplesxh_, lol GR.U.B04:29
ActionParsnipuser: check the PPA maintainers list04:30
Crowlerjoobie (at install time04:30
userthat's ok but i dont think it's a big deal to do all that just for change ubuntu main menu icon ! dont you agree ?04:31
useri am pretty sure there's one other way at least to change it04:31
jeangjoobie - also see if mdadm is part of the server (alternate) live cd04:32
ActionParsnipuser: https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix04:32
joobiejeang, it is apart of the alternate live cd04:32
joobiebut im using a port of ubuntu known as XBMCbuntu04:32
ActionParsnipuser: I'd say it was fairly trivial04:32
zukirepErin, had my name changed but unfortunately the sudogrub-update didnt work :(04:32
Crowlerjoobie if there is a way to run console at install time, run it, type in mdadm, and if you get back "not found" - forget your idea04:32
joobiethey have built that image on ubuntu live cd04:32
ActionParsnipjoobie: xbmcubuntu isn't supported here04:33
kieppiehi guys. can I hotswap/hotplug a SATA drive?04:33
joobieit's more a generic ubuntu question04:33
ActionParsnipjoobie: none of the 'ubuntu based' distributions are supported here04:33
Erinzukirep, you sure it doesn't show up in the list?04:33
vibhavjoobie: We dont support un-official derivatives of ubuntu04:33
joobieCrowler, any idea what that installer is called to run it if i do get into console?04:34
kieppieI have ejectable mounts connected to internal SATA busses, but need to know if I need to power down first?04:34
zukirepErin, yep besides a cd option there is only one harddrive option04:34
ActionParsnipkieppie: i'd check your manual04:34
kieppieor can I just load without risking my busses??04:34
joobiethis Q is more drawing from general ubuntu knowledge04:34
kieppie:/04:34
Erinzukirep, I am talking about the grub list.04:34
zukirepErin, I feel like I know the answer though if I can only figure out how to do it....04:34
zukirepErin, oo04:34
Erinzukirep, it will show up in the grub list.04:34
joobielike for example, how can you boot the Ubuntu Live CD to shell and then spawn the installer manually from the CLI04:34
ActionParsnipkieppie: be sure you unmount and eject the partitions on the drive before you eject the drive in ubuntu. Then you can physically eject the device04:35
zukirepErin, sorry but how do I find the grub list?04:35
Erinzukirep, I think you hold down shift when it starts?04:35
jeangjoobie - apt-get install mdadm?04:35
zukirepErin, oo okay I'll try that!04:35
ActionParsnipjoobie: the installer is called ubiquity04:35
Crowlerjoobie i dont have any ubuntu distros on hands atm, so im of no help04:35
joobiejeang, that will instal mdadm.. but how do you get to console from the livecd?04:35
ActionParsnipjoobie: press CTRL+ALT+F104:36
joobieahh k04:36
joobieI tried that before ActionParsnip, but it gave me another workspace04:36
joobienot the CLI04:36
useri dont think it's fairly trivial as you said cos sometimes it works but not all the time , i mean ubuntu icon maybe you like it and it's fine for you but for other people they feel curious to change it04:37
joobieActionParsnip, is there a way to spawn ubiquity from the cli?04:37
jeangjoobie ctrl.alt.F204:37
userand same for me i am just new and feel curious to see and make other things so i never stop searching  but i fed up that's it ! that's why i asked this question here04:37
ActionParsnipjoobie: no idea, why not just install xubuntu or Ubuntu proper, then install xbmc and get full support here rather than some crappy spinoff?04:38
ActionParsnipjoobie: which has no support here04:38
ActionParsnipjoobie: xbmc is in the official repos you know04:39
joobieActionParsnip, im presuming that specific build of xbmcbuntu has some specific xbmc code / versioning in the packages04:39
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h00k/204:40
joobielike given that it's a specific port of Ubuntu for XBMC04:40
lidarhttp://imgur.com/Ckt45 my cool desktop04:40
xangua!ot | lidar04:41
ubottulidar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:41
matt_help04:41
ActionParsnipjoobie: its not suported here, thats a massive point. your support community will be a lot smaller04:41
useroh amazing desktop04:41
matt_lol04:41
userhow did you mange icon ?04:41
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Guest78983yolo04:41
useri think they are small a little bit04:41
lidar!ot > xangua04:41
ubottuxangua, please see my private message04:41
Guest78983i am an ubuntu noob lol04:41
Crowlerjoobie i have a feeling, that if you would spend all the time you wasted here, reading boot menu of your live cd, you'd find the answer already04:42
WeThePeoplelidar, dude you need a dock :)04:42
joobieActionParsnip, i hear ya.. but once it's installed with RAID, it'll pretty much be Ubuntu04:42
joobiejust with slightly diff packages04:42
Calinoulidar, lmao :)04:42
joobieCrowler, been rebooting and mofiying the boot options a few times, but so far no good04:43
lidarWeThePeople: ill try to find one04:43
Crowlerjoobie i said boot menu, not options04:43
WeThePeoplelidar, may i recommend GLX-Dock "cairo"04:44
WeThePeoplesoftware center04:44
lidarWeThePeople: watch it xangua is gonna be telling you to stay on topic soon !04:44
ActionParsnipjoobie: doesn't matter what it pretty much is, it's not ubuntu. Ubuntu is based on debian but if you ask for ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here04:44
WeThePeoplexangua, srry04:45
WeThePeoplelidar, lol04:45
Crowlerjoobie also, console may be hidden somewhere in advanced options of installer. check them out too04:45
joobieok i got it to the cli04:45
joobiejust put 3 at the end of boot options04:45
lidarWeThePeople: software center wont work ..that screen shot i posted is my windows04:45
joobiebut tried init 5 and it doesnt go to xorg04:45
joobienor obquity04:45
zukirephey Erin, trying to edit the grub file (Grub_hidden_timeout to 1 instead of 0) to give myself more time to press the shift key but i cant save changes04:46
Erinzukirep, use sudo04:46
ActionParsnipzukirep: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub    and you will04:46
zukirepah I see04:46
WeThePeoplelidar, oh your good04:46
Erinzukirep, learn to use nano it's awesome!04:46
zukirepErin saw nano in some guide but wasnt sure what that was04:46
Erinzukirep, sudo nano /etc/default/grub   make the changes and hit ctrl+x to save.04:47
Erinzukirep, command line txt editor.04:47
ActionParsnipctrl+o to save :)04:47
Erinits x..04:47
ActionParsnipErin: ctrl+x is exit04:47
ErinActionParsnip, ahh, but it does ask you to save :-)04:48
zukirepumm tried ctrl+o04:48
ActionParsnipErin: yes, but if you want to just save, its +o04:48
zukirepoo ok ill just ctrl x to exit and save04:48
spookykewl, dumped windows 4 linux - don't look back :-)04:48
ErinActionParsnip, true04:48
ActionParsnipErin: you can hit CTRL+o then CTRL+x and it saves then exist04:48
ActionParsnipexits04:48
ErinActionParsnip, thats 2x the work though.04:48
zukirepcool though04:48
ActionParsnipErin: true04:48
Erinzukirep, ctrl+w and you can search for stuff.04:49
Erinnano is t3h pwnz0r :-)04:49
zukirepErin, so is nano used to open those files in the terminal screen?04:49
Erinzukirep, indeed.04:49
Erinopen+edit04:49
zukirepoo kk04:49
ActionParsnipalthough running it with sudo makes the nano_history file be owned by root (annoying)04:49
ErinActionParsnip, but you have to run it as root to edit most system stuff right?04:49
ActionParsnipErin: yes, its an annoying bug04:50
ErinActionParsnip, what is nano history anyway? I never use it I think..04:50
ActionParsnipErin: its the history of files nano has opened:  $HOME/.nano_history   running it with sudo will make the file be owned by root04:51
ActionParsnipErin: so when you run it you will get a warning that the file cannot be updated04:51
useris there anybody here would like to help me ?04:52
WeThePeopleuser, just ask04:53
ErinActionParsnip, yea I always get that warning, just ignore it :-)04:53
useri dont know what's going on with this version : 12.04 : << ehh it seems i am done04:54
WeThePeopleuser, ask your question04:54
useri have too many issues , i installed dockbarx and i doesnt work too , i installed ubuntu tweak but i can not see gnome sitting dont tell me search cos if you said that i will break this screen04:55
zukirepErin, to update on my quest to find windows, I pressed shift and saw lots of options and didnt know what to do04:55
Erinzukirep, well did one say windows 7 ?04:56
zukirepErin, nope but there was like grub update, and various other options04:56
WeThePeopleuser, where did you get dockbarx04:56
zukirepnothing about windows 704:56
Erinzukirep, on the list with like linux 2.6.0 or whatever it doesn't say windows at all? even after sudo update-grub04:57
Erinif so im not sure what else you can do..04:57
userfrom that site gnome.look.org04:57
Gyro54How can I continue with an upgrade to 12.04 from the shell after it was stopped with ctrl/c?04:57
Erinzukirep, you are going to need to manually add it then.04:57
zukirepErin, ah okay... ill figure it out at somepoint04:57
Erinzukirep, sry not sure what else to tell you.04:57
useri installed it in version 10.04 it works + its great there04:57
WeThePeopleuser, if you are new to linux i would recommend you get all software from the software center04:58
zukirepErin, thats okay I learned a lot of useful things anyway04:58
BentFranklinHow do I find the anme of my sound card's driver?04:58
Gyro54It was at the remove old programs stage04:58
userwell that's okay but i can't find what i want in software center not all the time !04:58
ErinBen64, can try lsmod | grep snd04:58
Gyro54After a 5 hour upgrade04:59
Crowleryou must be on dialup...05:00
ErinDial-up still exists lol?05:00
Crowlerwhy not?05:00
WeThePeopleits free05:00
ErinCrowler, was making a joke. sorry it wasn't funny :-)05:00
userso i dont think there's answer for my question05:01
BentFranklinErin: Could it be snd-pcm?05:01
userthat's why people call ubuntu truck then05:01
ErinBentFranklin, what kind of snd card ?05:01
WeThePeopleuser, are you trying to install a theme05:01
lidarits been so many years since i configured ppp i wouldnt be able to get online05:01
BentFranklinErin: Don't know.  I guess that's the problem.05:01
ErinBentFranklin, pastebin lspci -vv05:01
CrowlerErin think i got offended?05:02
Adieguys05:02
AdieI have a broblem05:02
lidar!ask05:02
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:02
Gyro54Where can I go to fix this problem. I think I have killed it!05:02
userit's not a theme they are just small tools < dockbarx applet for making taskbar like win 7 i have tried everything05:02
WeThePeopleadie, whats your broblem05:02
ErinCrowler, well honestly I wouldn't care if you did05:02
Adiewhen I click my right side mouse bottons, the mouse freezes till I replug it in05:02
CrowlerBentFranklin snd-pcm is not your casd driver05:02
Adieon my steel series sensai05:02
userit's so stupid to spend weeks and days just for small tool !05:02
Adieit's weird.05:02
Cattaand that's what she said05:02
crimsonmanesteel series is garbage.05:02
WeThePeopleuser, you on 12.0405:03
useryes i am05:03
Adiecrimsonmane, no it's not -.-05:03
CrowlerBentFranklin card driver name most of time is same as name of card's chipset05:03
crimsonmaneit most certainly is. cheap plastic, cheap buttons05:03
WeThePeopleuser, name one thing you would like to take care of05:03
Adiecrimsonmane, fine plastic, same buttons as everyone else05:03
Gyro54It is at the command prompt and I don't want to touch it in case I break it completely.05:03
userdockbarx applet in the panel <<05:04
Gyro54Can I just reboot?05:04
BentFranklinErin: Crowler: I found it, snd-intel-8x0 probably on board sound05:04
crimsonmaneAdie: i've used them. they're entirely too bulky yet lightweight.05:04
CrowlerBentFranklin or, ac97/hdaudio, in case of built-in sound05:04
crimsonmaneAdie: what's i'm saying is, get a different mouse and see if you have the same problem05:04
ErinBentFranklin, if you pastebin lspci I can figure it out05:04
Adiemaybe what you used was a bad model, but I have a good mouse ^_^05:04
ErinBentFranklin, is your sound not working or something05:04
AdieI don't have any other mice05:04
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userhow can i install it is there any official way for it05:04
Adielike I said, it's only the two right side buttons05:04
Adiedunno why that would make my mouse lock05:05
WeThePeopleuser, user, how did you install05:05
crimsonmaneAdie: if you don't have another mouse to try, then your problem cannot be properly diagnosed05:05
BentFranklinErin: Thanks I'll take it from here.  Maybe back later w/paste then.05:05
Guest76897how to configure the epson Epson AcuLaser CX17NF in ubuntu 1205:05
Gyro54Can you restart the upgrade process after Ctrl/c during the upgrade?05:05
ErinBentFranklin, k good luck05:06
Adiecrimsonmane, even if I did have "another mouse" they wouldn't have these buttons ^_^05:06
BentFranklinErin: I'm on a server version so no gui browser.05:06
ActionParsnipGuest76897: did you check the open printing foundation05:06
useri followed steps on gnome.look.org05:06
userin found it there05:06
userfrom terminal05:06
CrowlerGyro54 if you interrupted handful of nested scripts, then, most like, you fucked up05:06
ErinBentFranklin, you can install pastebinit. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit lspci05:06
Crowlerly05:07
crimsonmaneAdie: not the point. if you cannot verify that the problem persists beyond your one device, then you cannot proceed faithfully with any other solution.05:07
WeThePeopleuser, what commands have you used to find it?05:07
ErinBentFranklin, hrm maybe not that doesn't seem to work on lspci.05:07
crimsonmaneAdie: you simply must be able to confirm if the one mouse is bad or not. that is how diagnostics is done.05:07
Gyro54Crowler: It was at the remove unused programs and was cleaning up05:07
Adie:(05:07
crimsonmaneAdie: or type your problem into google and see if anyone else experienced the same.05:08
Adieyes05:08
Adiethey have05:08
Gyro54crowler: Any ideas to not kill it any more. What is the best way to go from here?05:08
Guest76897ActionParsnip @yes05:08
useri used first : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd805:08
usersudo apt-get update05:08
usersudo apt-get install dockbarx dockbarx-themes-extra05:08
Adiethis mouse + linux = the two side buttons locking the mouse05:08
Adiebut no solutions posted05:08
Adiewell, none that I can do05:08
Adieone involves re-programming the mouse via windows05:09
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AdieI dunno if there is a way to get into what the linux is receiving from the mouse, and change how it acts? idk :(05:09
Adieyou guys are smarter than me05:09
crimsonmaneAdie: and the other involves taking the mouse apart and removing the two buttons.05:09
CrowlerGyro54 from my experience, you will spend some days, learning how many stages script has, and what each stage was doing, and how exactly05:09
Guest76897may u plz tell   me how configure the Epson AcuLaser CX17NF in unbunt 12.005:09
Adiecrimsonmane -.-05:09
Adiethat's silly.05:09
crimsonmaneis it?05:10
crimsonmaneyou can't use them anyway05:10
Adieit would be NICE to use them ^_^05:10
Adiemaybe switch between workstations05:10
WeThePeopleuser, do these $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dockbar-main/ppa and seperate of course sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dockbarx05:10
WeThePeopleuser, one at a time05:11
greenithi, how can i find out which graphics driver is loaded?05:11
Gyro54Crowler: it is currently at ~/zdesktop$05:11
CrowlerGyro54 and you will come to realisation, that clean install is faster05:11
Crowlerz05:11
Guest76897can some one help me how to configure  Epson AcuLaser CX17NF lazer jet printer in ubunt 12.005:11
userok let me try05:11
Gyro54Crowler: or no upgrade at all!05:12
lidargreenit: lsmod05:12
WeThePeoplegreenit, sudo lshw -C display | grep driver05:12
CrowlerGyro54 just back up user data and roll uot fresh install05:12
Crowlerout05:13
CrowlerGyro54 if you have home on separate partition, just dont format it05:13
usercan you send them in txt file cos i am confused here05:14
WeThePeopleuser, do this first>>>   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dockbar-main/ppa05:14
CattaHow do I know when 12.04 lubuntu is finished installing?05:14
crimsonmaneCatta: the installer disappears and tells you to reboot05:15
Gyro54Crowler: it may be OK to just reboot but I am not sure if there is a better way.05:15
Cattathank you crimsonmane05:15
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WeThePeopleuser, 2nd do this>>>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dockbarx05:15
Guest41047can some plz tell how to configure Epson AcuLaser CX17NF in ubuntu 12.0405:15
userwait05:16
WeThePeopleuser, read the terminal very carefully05:16
WeThePeopleuser, you might need to press 'y' for yes to install05:16
CrowlerGyro54 depends on your luck. if it updated all system libs and kernel and bootloader you may at least see console05:17
WeThePeopleuser, if you see that05:17
Gyro54Thanks05:17
useryes yes i didnt write the codes yet05:17
useryou know how stupid i am ?05:17
userlol05:17
ActionParsnipGuest41047: did you check the site05:17
CrowlerGyro54 anyway, having livecd on hands helps alot05:17
Guest41047yes05:18
ActionParsnipGuest41047: did it say that it works?05:18
usercommand not found05:19
Guest41047ActionParsnip@ their is no driver of this model05:19
userit says command not found ?05:19
ActionParsnipGuest41047: oh boy05:19
ActionParsnipGuest41047: let me search05:19
WeThePeopleuser, use paste.ubuntu.com for terminal output05:19
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Cattaif lubuntu got stuck reporting an error in apport during my install, should I wait more than 30 minutes for it to sort itself out, or try to reinstall?05:21
usermy gosh05:24
bkerensaCatta: if it has stalled and you cannot detect progress then attempt a re-install perhaps05:24
userinstalling...05:24
bkerensaCatta: might also ask in #lubuntu05:24
ErinCatta, its starting to seem like something is wrong with that laptop05:24
ActionParsnipGuest41047: nothing on turboprint or avasys05:25
Gyro54Crowler: Booted OK. That was a stressful. Thanks for your support05:25
ActionParsnipGuest41047: i don't think it's going to fly. You could contact epson to see if its similar to another printer which has drivers and use taht05:26
CrowlerCatta how much ram is installed in your lap?05:26
crimsonmaneeight inches?05:26
crimsonmane(you set that one up)05:26
CrowlerGyro54 only psychological05:26
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CattaCrowler: i dont recall, but i know it had some added once :/ I ran the memory test and the disk test before i installed05:27
Guest41047ActionParsnip@is their any ways that i can install this (Epson AcuLaser CX17NF)printer05:28
CrowlerCatta you should be able to see amount of installed ram at boot time, before livecd boots05:28
GudduCan we use Yum on Ubuntu? Or only apt-get?05:28
CattaCrowler: i will check05:28
ActionParsnipGuest41047: I suggest you contact epson05:29
Guest41047ActionParsnip@Epson Say that this printer does support linux os05:29
WeThePeoplegudda, i think only apt-get or maybr aptitude05:29
ActionParsnipGuest41047: then ask them where the support is05:29
CrowlerCatta press "break" if is disappears too fast05:29
ErinCatta, or type cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal05:30
Guest41047ActionParsnip@Epson  said that this printer in not recommend for linux05:30
CrowlerErin he still cant boot linux05:30
ErinI know, he has access to live though.05:31
CrowlerErin so no cat and no grep05:31
CattaI am attempting a reboot, since it let me try, but it never showed that it finished installing, it just hung on the apport05:31
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GudduGuest41047 What is your printer model again?05:31
Erinhow much ram does ubuntu require now a days for lubuntu?05:31
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot?05:32
ActionParsnipGuest41047: sounds like you'll need windows to use it then05:32
Guest41047Epson AcuLaser CX17NF laser jet05:32
CrowlerErin lol. i thought you know it05:32
lidarlotuspsychje: dont use x05:32
xangua!requirements | Erin05:32
ubottuErin: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu05:32
lotuspsychjeErin:check lubuntu site05:32
ErinCrowler, nope I don't use lbuntu05:32
lotuspsychjelidar:lol05:32
lotuspsychjelidar: maybe u wanna try teamviewer on another day to fix that?05:32
ActionParsnipGuest41047: you could try the generic postscript driver, may work05:33
lidarlotuspsychje: after a week i would be like screw it im using freebsd05:33
lotuspsychjelol05:33
ActionParsnipGuest41047: otherwise the only OS you will get this running on is Windows05:33
Guest41047ok05:33
Crowler!lubuntu05:33
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.05:33
GudduGuest41047 Did you try with any other Epson Laser Printer model?05:33
lidarlotuspsychje: yeah sure why not05:33
ErinCatta, maybe that laptop doesn't have enough ram05:34
Guest41047let me try05:34
lotuspsychjelidar: im too addicted on ubuntu to leave this..i gotta fix this05:34
ActionParsnipGuest41047: in future I recommend you buy HP. HP loves linux and there is a project named HPLIP (part of a default Ubuntu install) and most HP printers install and confure with zero issues05:34
Crowlerhmm... there is #lubuntu... i wonder if dudes there know msr...05:34
Guest41047yes sir05:34
Guest41047Guddu@No05:35
GudduGuest41047 I would give it a quick try and see if the output is coming out fine.05:36
CattaErin: I am in the bios, can i check ram here?05:36
ActionParsnipCatta: there is a memtest86+ in Grub05:36
CrowlerCatta usually on 1st page05:36
GudduSo in Ubuntu we don't have httpd.conf but apache2.conf?05:36
Guest41047NO  OUTPUT05:36
Cattasystem memory? 256 mb05:36
CrowlerCatta it is05:36
ActionParsnipCatta: reboot and hold SHIFT then select the memtest in the grub menu05:37
Cattaok ActionParsnip05:37
ErinCatta, yea05:37
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Erinsupposedly lubuntu is fine with 256mb of ram05:38
ErinCatta, oh man that laptop is ancient :-)05:38
CrowlerSystem Requirements05:38
CrowlerWe have done many tests and we found out that Lubuntu can be installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM. However, the system will not be very much usable or for daily use.05:38
Cattaoh, i already did the memtest ActionParsnip , i passed 100%05:39
smwCrowler, ubuntu can be installed on just about any system05:39
CrowlerWith 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system will be more usable.05:39
CrowlerWith 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much.05:39
CrowlerThe default "Desktop" installer requires 368-800 MB of RAM (depending on selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate" installer.05:39
CattaI did that and the check disk before I installed05:39
smwCrowler, the question is, will it run fast enough to be useful05:39
Crowleri just cite wiki05:40
prashant_123456how to make script to log dynamic ip address and update to a webpage ?05:40
ErinSo he needs the alternate installer05:40
CattaI will try to reinstall again, thanks Crowler , Erin and ActionParsnip05:40
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ActionParsnipprashant_123456: could just use a service like noip or dydns and have it update DNS so you can use a name, then your IP doesn't matter05:45
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: there are client apps for ubuntu and some routers also support dydn and they will periodically update the ip to name resolution so if the IP does change the DNS will reflect the change05:47
CrowlerCatta you still here? if so, take my word, old windows will be better05:47
CattaI am here, all I have is a windows 95 cd, but it did run xp alright05:48
Crowlercatt so install it05:48
Crowlermodern linuxes are too hungry for ram05:49
Cattathat is why i was trying to install damn small linux first, would that work , if i could ever get it installed?05:50
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, dyndns.org is a paid service05:50
Cattai would have to get XP somehow05:50
kubanc_any idea why i have only 128MB of RAM in virtualBox machine?05:50
CrowlerCatta if you have some non-standatr hardware in your book, dsl may lack drivers for it05:51
crimsonmaneCatta: just to give you an idea, Linux runs on my router which only has 8megs of ram05:51
Cattawin95 didnt have the right drivers either05:51
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: there is a free version05:51
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: I use no-ip nd install noip2 on my server to update my record05:51
GudduGuest41047 I would suggest asking at forum in www.CUPS.org also05:52
Crowlerkubanc_ its default vm ram size and you didnt bother to adjust it at creation time05:52
Cattaok crimsonmane05:52
mhahejust bought a sony vaio z series. its got two ssd hard disks for raid 0 configuration. windows already installed. i want to get ubuntu installed alongside windows, but this raid things is confusing me. any body ever deal with this?05:52
ActionParsnip!raid05:52
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto05:52
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, i recently purchased one from dyndns.org for logging dvr and camera systems05:53
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, but i need some free service05:53
CrowlerCatta i meant xp when i said "install it"05:53
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: noip is free, you'll just get emails telling you to renew05:53
Cattaok Crowler , if i could find a copy05:53
kubanc_Crowler, I'm takling about video memory not RAM05:54
CrowlerCatta its not that hard05:54
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, ok i see but i have one more script which updates dynamic ip address to google spreadsheets05:54
Crowlerkubanc_ your video card is emulated05:55
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, but dont know how to use the scripts05:55
diligentdinoHi, Question: Running 12.04LTS. After extended periods away from my machine, the monitor goes into sleep mode. However when I resume I've lost the ability to control my mouse. The clicking still working, but I can't move it. Suggestions?05:57
Guest41047ok05:57
Crowlerdiligentdino disable sleep mode05:57
diligentdinoCrowler, Sleep is just for the monitor. The harddrive doesn't go to sleep. This is why I'm confused on this.05:58
Crowlerhdd in linux never goes to sleep05:58
SAngelifor ubuntu server not having any hardware raid controller is "MDADM RAID Controller" what I should use or not? What is default ubuntu server using?05:59
Guest41047Guddu@the cups is by default install in ubuntu05:59
GudduGuest41047 :  That's right...I was referring to your driver neeeds.05:59
crimsonmanei cannot believe you 'helpful' people didn't know about the Alternate Lubuntu Installer for low-ram systems. Lubuntu requires more than 256 ram in order to install06:00
CrowlerSAngeli how much money you lose per hour if this server goes down?06:00
Guest41047Gaddu@ the printer in getting delected in ubuntu but is unable to print and this printer in network printer06:00
SAngeliCrowler, nothing because I have RAID 1 and the server is only repository for backups and it is not a production server. Why do you ask?06:01
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: what's your point?06:01
CrowlerSAngeli you will be ok with mdadm06:01
SAngeliis mdadm what is also used by default from ubuntu server install CD, just to know?06:01
lidarcrimsonmane: there are alternative .isos for everything06:01
crimsonmaneyeah and someone here needed that but nobody suggestedit06:01
crimsonmanefor like... an hour06:02
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: so you never forgot something useful?06:02
Guest41047Guddu@ i trying to configure this printer as network printer in ubuntu06:02
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: why didn't you suggest it then?06:02
crimsonmanei did. in private.06:02
SAngeliCrowler, is mdadm what is also used by default from ubuntu server install CD, just to know?06:02
crimsonmanei didn't want to ask the room to bring me up to speed.06:02
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: why in private?06:02
crimsonmanenobody ever brings me up to speed06:03
GudduGuest41047 :  Have you seen at the CUPS logs?06:03
CrowlerSAngeli crimsonmane says it is lol06:03
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: I could have, easily06:03
SAngeligreat, sorry I did not noticed it06:03
crimsonmanehistory repeats itself.06:03
lidarActionParsnip: it was secret!06:03
Cattai think erin said something about that but i didnt know what they were refering to06:04
chris062689Does anyone here happen to have any information about Optimus support in Ubuntu 12.10?06:04
SAngelibty: do you know of any cheap (€50) raid controller that is compatible with ubuntu? Just to know06:04
chris062689I have a Thinkpad T430 with the NVIDIA GPU, and I need that NVIDIA GPU activated via Optimus to take advantage of my docking station.06:04
chris062689Is it possible to run it via Optimus or just run the NVIDIA GPU all the time if that's easier?06:04
ActionParsnipchris062689: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics   some commands there may help06:05
Miknessjagginess, Hey, just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the help last week. The problem with the SSD was that the firmware wasn't updated. Everything's working spectacularly now!06:07
Crowlerhe will know it... eventually06:09
jagginessMikness, lol seriously :) good news06:10
MiknessJust spreadin' the love. Keep up the good work!06:11
WaltherMikness: Oh, great!06:13
Miknesswalther, you too, man!06:13
Erin]06:14
PatrickCanyone in here happen to be running ubuntu on a mac by any chance?06:17
baizonnot really06:17
baizonbut you can still ask your question :)06:17
PatrickChah06:17
PatrickCjust installed ubuntu onto my new MacBook pro06:17
PatrickCand install went good, but not in the boot menu :)06:17
CrowlerPatrickC mac does not exist anymore as a hardware platform06:18
jagginess!refit06:18
iceroot!mac | PatrickC06:18
ubottuPatrickC: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages06:18
CrowlerPatrickC just ask your casual pc question06:18
PatrickCjagginess, installed.. but it doesn't seem to be booting to rEFIt06:18
jagginessPatrickC, check out refit, (google: ubuntu wiki mac refit)06:18
detlyI'm trying to test modifications to a combined gtk2/3 theme in 12.04 - can anyone give me an example of a simple gtk2 app?06:18
jagginessPatrickC, you have to install grub's stage1 not to the mbr, but to the linux partition where there's /boot06:19
jagginessPatrickC, then refit will show a penguin06:20
PatrickCjagginess, rEFIt doesn't show anything, like rEFIt doesn't boot06:20
jagginessPatrickC, refit is supposed to at least allow you to access a shell option.. if you did an OsX update, you may need to do a refit reinstall06:21
Crowlerlooks like he killed efi partition06:22
PatrickCjagginess, i installed it after i updated06:22
PatrickCbut might have found a solution.. trying now06:22
moonbugbody?06:24
PatrickCwoo!! got it working i believe06:24
PatrickCgot rEFIt working at least06:24
PatrickCnow to see if this will still require the kernel boot command change06:24
moonbugwow06:24
moonbugfirst to be here amazing06:25
jagginessPatrickC, try booting to a rescue shell from cd, 1 way or another you'll have to have grub's stage1 on the linux partition, not the mbr(sector0)06:26
PatrickCjagginess, it's booting now06:27
jagginessPatrickC, also, refit only recognizes 4 partitions06:27
PatrickCi thin..06:27
PatrickCi only have 3 :)06:27
PatrickCs/thin/think/06:27
PatrickCbooted jagginess06:28
jagginessPatrickC, also you may want to look into grub-efi and see if that's easy to get working on mac.. there's likely benefits over than using grubpc.. but i'm guessing there'll be more tinkering to be done for getting it to work..06:29
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mhahehey guys i read the ubuntu guide on how to configure and install ubuntu for raid configuration... but it doesnt mention how to deal with pre-existing OS (windows 7) i want it to go alongside windows06:32
icerootmhahe: you cant put windows on software raid from ubuntu06:32
mhaheis that the prefered way?06:33
icerootmhahe: you are talking about softwareraid? or fakeraid? or hardware-raid?06:33
mhahei have 2 ssd drives in raid 006:33
mhahenew laptop pre installed with windows 706:34
icerootmhahe: ok then its software-raid06:34
mhahei was going to try and install ubuntu along side it06:34
jagginessmhahe, you need at least 2 physical harddrives to do any raid06:34
mhahethere are06:34
mhahe206:34
mhahe128 gb 128gb06:34
icerootmhahe: install windows somewhere and make space on both drives for ubuntu06:35
jagginessmhahe, i dont think m$' ldm is fully stable in linux..06:35
icerootmhahe: e.g. windows 28gb, then you still have 100gb and 128gb, put 100gb in software-raid06:35
Crowlermhahe what is raid controller name in device manager?06:35
mhahelet me check06:35
icerootnever heard of a notebook with a raid controller06:36
jagginessmhahe, your laptop can take 2 drives? what model is it?06:36
mhahesony vaio z06:36
mhahethis years model06:36
jagginessmhahe, the second harddrive isn't on usb is it?06:37
iceroot!raid | mhahe06:37
ubottumhahe: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:37
icerootmhahe: use the first link for software-raid06:37
mhahewell if you mean external then no06:37
mhaheI have two seperate hdd06:38
jagginessmhahe, you can use the desktop-alternate ubuntu iso.. it supports raid upon installation06:38
Crowlerthen its not raid06:38
* jagginess uses software raid06:38
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icerootmhahe: but why you need raid0 on a notebook?06:38
icerootmhahe: raid IS NOT a backup solution06:38
mhaheraid 0 isnt for backup06:39
mhahefrom what i read06:39
icerootmhahe: why you need raid on a notebook?06:39
mhaheim not so tech savy when it comes to this specifically06:39
icerootmhahe: then dont use raid if you dont know what it means06:39
mhahebut i read on their website it is in raid 0 config06:39
jagginessmhahe, the type of raid you'd be using is called 'software raid'.. of course.. you'd setup up a raid1 type.. you make two physical linux-RAID partitions -- it can be done with the setup06:39
EweRif im not using root, but just user with root privilagies, why the hell I have to write sudo each time i install something and use my password all the time06:40
icerootEweR: because of security06:40
icerootEweR: it would be stupid when you can execute everything as root directly with your normal user06:41
jagginessmhahe, backup any userdata.. you won't lose anything if you're careful but still..06:41
icerootEweR: then everything would be run as root (browser for example)06:41
mhahejagginess06:41
CrowlerEweR because you cant transfer root's rigts to another account06:41
mhaheso i can install ubuntu right now using software raid?06:42
icerootmhahe: why you need raid?06:42
jagginessmhahe, some guides may say they have /dev/md0 for /, others would say they use /dev/md0p1 for /, .. i make it simple, i just use /dev/md0 for /, it's up to you..06:42
mhahekeeping windows intact? assuming nothing goes wrong06:42
EweRApperently its not recomended to use root account06:42
jagginessmhahe, with the desktop-alternate iso , (not the standard-- but it's exactly the same repositories, etc.. it's only the installer that supports raid upon setup)06:42
jagginessmhahe, (,/upon install./upon setup)06:42
jagginessmhahe, yeah..06:43
jagginessmhahe, just shrink the windows ntfs partitions first of course..06:43
mhahejagginess, what tool do i use to shrink it? or just use what comes with iso?06:43
CrowlerEweR you can be root all the time you want, if you know what youre doing06:43
jagginessmhahe, you can use gparted live cd, or if i'm right, that installer cd can resize ntfs..06:44
IdleOneCrowler: that is just bad advice06:44
icerootCrowler: please dont suggest something like that. its a big security issue06:44
CrowlerIdleOne, iceroot this "issue" just makes ppl paranoid06:45
mhaheI have 2 HDDs so if ill probably have to resize both?06:45
jagginessmhahe, the process of doing the first sync (linux only touches it's own partitions, nothing else), it'll be slow.. but in your case the first sync would probably take under an hour.. any activity you do during this time will be extremely slow..06:45
IdleOneCrowler: what makes me paranoid is people giving out bad advice.06:45
jagginessmhahe, let's say you want 15gigs for linux, then you'll need to free 15 gigs on both drives..06:46
IdleOneCrowler: Please do not tell people they can run as root all the time. Ubuntu uses sudo and that is what this channel supports06:46
jagginessmhahe, you should also set room aside for a RAID1 mirroring for swap06:46
jagginessmhahe, i'm guessing a 1-2 gig swap is good enough for your laptop06:46
Crowlereh, no need for panic. im not sexually harassing anyone06:47
mhahei never dealt with raid so im getting abit reluctant to start fiddling around. i feel ill mess things up somehow.. u say if i want 15gb for linux i free up 15gb from BOTH as in 7.5gb each?06:48
randomDudeCrowler: i assure you there is always a reason to panic06:48
jagginessmhahe, so basically make space with gparted live cd for both drives, then reboot with the desktop-alternate iso..06:48
icerootmhahe: can you tell me why you need RAID? as it seems you even dont know what raid is and trust me there is no reason to use raid on a notebook06:48
diligentdinomhahe, whatever you do on 1 drive do it on the other. If you free 15gigs on A  .. free 15gigs on B.06:48
jagginessmhahe, well thats why i said to backup your userdata.. it's actually pretty easy once you follow a guide out there.. there's no commands to do, -- the only one you really have to check later is-> cat /proc/mdstat  , which tells you if there's still a resync going on06:48
Crowleryou guys, who advice against rooting, just never tried it yourself06:49
mhaheiceroot, I have 2 hdds so isnt that raid 0?06:49
icerootmhahe: no06:49
jagginessmhahe, you're using ldm or not?06:49
diligentdinoCrowler, Advising users to run as a super account all the time is just pain irresponsible.06:49
icerootCrowler: we said we dont support something like that here, please respect that, thank you06:49
jagginessmhahe, m$ ldm? (dynamic disk)06:49
mhaheldm?06:49
mhahejust got the laptop and up till this point only ever had 1 hd06:50
mhaheso im lost06:50
jagginessmhahe, that's m$' way of doing software raid.. linux can't be used on those disks (i think m$ldm isnt yet secure with linux)06:50
icerootmhahe: raid is more then just "i have two hdds". have a look at wikipedia what RAID is and then thing about if you really need it06:50
jagginessmhahe, raid1 is mirroring.. it would be good enough for your setup06:50
jagginessmhahe, raid0 isnt06:51
mhahei dont need back up06:51
diligentdinomhahe, I'd suggest you start by reading about what RAID is and the difference between software and an actual hardware RAID.06:51
icerootmhahe: raid is not a backup06:51
mhaheso raid 1 is of no use for me06:51
mhahemirroring06:51
mhaheredundancy or what ever06:51
icerootmhahe: and raid0 is making the chance 50% higher that your filesystem will fail06:52
jagginessmhahe, then what do you want to gain from setting up a "raid" then?06:52
Crowleri never said "i advice", i said "you can"06:52
jagginessmhahe, the main purpose of raid is "redundancy"06:52
icerootmhahe: just forget the idea of raid and you will be fine06:52
Ben64i thought raid 1 was for speed?06:52
mhaheokay all i want is for ubuntu to see both HDD... so what should i do?06:52
icerootBen64: raid0 is for speed06:52
Ben64hmm06:52
jagginessmhahe, I say buy a ubuntu book. You wasted so many people's time here.06:52
jagginessbye.06:52
diligentdinomhahe, If all you wanna do is see both hdds on 1 os. Just use fstab to mount the other drive.06:53
Ben64doesn't raid 1 pull info from both drives at once = double speed?06:53
Ben64or am i thinking incorrectly06:53
icerootBen64: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0:_Striping_.E2.80.93_Beschleunigung_ohne_Redundanz06:53
icerootBen64: replace that link with a language of your choice06:53
mhahealso once i get ubuntu installed.. is it possible to mount windows partition? I have loads of music and depending on what im using throughout the day id like to be able to play some tunes. so if i just keep it all on windows that would be great and just mount it. instead of having seperate copies06:55
icerootmhahe: sure06:56
diligentdinomhahe, read up on /etc/fstab06:56
icerootmhahe: ubuntu will automaticly mount your windows-partiton and show it in the filemanager06:56
icerootmhahe: no need to edit /etc/fstab06:56
diligentdinoiceroot, telling someone not to get their hands dirty and actually learning about the OS sounds like windows06:57
mhahei had a mac before and it would show up in the file explorer but i didnt have permission to access files. i went through a guide and it was way to much time and i was too busy to follow through. will i face permission issues when using windows partition?06:58
Ben64diligentdino: why even type sentences here if you're not being constructive?06:58
icerootdiligentdino: there is no need to tell someone "read up on /etc/fstab (where???) when he just wants something which is working automaticly06:58
icerootdiligentdino: are you reading docu of upstart just because you are using it automaticly?06:58
diligentdinoiceroot, there are 2 ways 2 do everything. I figured this was a help channel .. not an easy channel.06:58
icerootdiligentdino: its not helpfull to tell someone to read docu about something he will maybe never need06:59
Ben64mhahe: normally ntfs works almost flawlessly in ubuntu, except for unusual circumstances, like encrypted volumes06:59
diligentdinoit works 2 ways for a reason. Users have options and they shouldn't be told NOT to do something... Just like they shouldn't be told to run in super user all the time.06:59
icerootdiligentdino: and its not helpfull to name him just a file06:59
diligentdinoiceroot, he needs it NOW .. this is what he's trying to do.06:59
icerootdiligentdino: reread his question07:00
diligentdinoiceroot, he wants music on another partition. So mounting this other partition is what he wants.07:00
icerootdiligentdino: and what is ubuntu doing by default with windows-partitions?07:00
diligentdinosudo blkid and mount by UUID .. it's not hard. And this is the other option of the 'easy way'07:00
mhaheso ill just add that partition into fstab and it should be mounted on every start up?07:00
three18tijust discovered the 3.5 kernel fixes the shutdown kernel panic bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/820546 but I -think- that's only because it doesn't load the 4rd party nvidia drivers...07:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 820546 in linux (Ubuntu) "Random kernel panic at shutdown" [Undecided,Expired]07:00
ErinI agree I taught someone to blkid and use fstab in 5 minutes earlier today.07:01
three18ti#firstworldproblems07:01
Erinteach them to fish....07:01
diligentdinoRight07:01
icerootdiligentdino: ubuntu is even not installed on his system07:01
Erinif you expect it to just work you are screwed07:01
diligentdinomhahe, /etc/fstab is the folder for mounting partitions.07:01
Ben64mhahe: you don't need to use fstab at all07:01
three18ti"Every time I shutdown my laptop" firstworldproblems.jpg "It kernel panics"07:01
Calinouthree18ti, troll much07:02
diligentdinoiceroot, does it really matter? .. to new users ubuntu is linux07:02
Calinou"4rd"07:02
icerootdiligentdino: can you stop that please?07:02
diligentdinoiceroot, why because it doesn't conform to what you want to tell the user?07:02
icerootdiligentdino: at the moment only windows is installed, he will now install ubuntu and ubuntu will auto-mount the windows partitoons automaticlky07:02
cappicardhrmm.... this is very frustrating...  i do not know why i can't log into my own server via the console. I get the motd, but never the bash prompt07:02
icerootdiligentdino: so there is no single reason to read the manpage for fstab07:02
Ben64diligentdino: it is much easier for a new user to ubuntu to go to Menu -> Places -> 200GB filesystem07:03
icerootdiligentdino: you are just confusing him07:03
mhahethanks guys ill be wipping the computer clean, windows came with so much bloat and ill just have it installed fresh. but is it better to install windows first or ubuntu? which is less painful and also better in long run?07:03
Walthermhahe: windows first07:03
icerootmhahe: first windows, then ubuntu07:03
diligentdinoiceroot, if getting the second option on a problem your trying to solve is confusing. Perhaps more learning is in order ... right clicking and adding just feeds the problem.07:03
jagginess!just do it.07:03
ubottujagginess: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:03
icerootdiligentdino: ubuntu is not a system where the user must learn so much before he can use the system07:04
icerootdiligentdino: ubuntu is a system, ready to be used07:04
mhahethanks again guys for all the help. sorry for the headache07:04
Ben64there is always time to learn later. you can't expect a new user to jump all the way in07:04
three18tiCalinou, not trolling, just trying to make light of an -extremely- frustrating problem that has plagued me since I installed 12.04.  it's really, a dumb problem to have, (and I may have linked the wrong bug report, they all kinda say the same thing...)07:04
diligentdinoyou honestly believe editing fstab is jumping all the way in? .....07:04
icerootdiligentdino: can we move on?07:05
jagginessBen64, ns. Some people guess more than they have to, and never do a userdata backup.. then only come here to whine about it07:05
diligentdinoiceroot, yes07:05
Waltherdiligentdino: It's not perhaps jumpin all the way in. But it is thoroughly unnecessary for a new user07:05
* jagginess says just BACKUP AND DO IT.07:05
Ben64jagginess: what are you talking about07:05
diligentdinoWalther, I get that, .. I'm just trying to say it's not always about the dbl click. Some users like hearing the second option. Once you only tell them  the one way .. i'm sure more than enough users will only stick with this one option.. because they 'know how to do it'07:06
diligentdinoit's just counter-productive when we're also trying to increase the desire for something stable that you can't do in windows right ... that's what the whole community is about. Giving the user options.07:07
jagginessIf someone doesn't know what the hell a term means, they should ask. Otherwise other people spend time trying to help for nothing.07:07
jagginessNothing!07:07
* jagginess looks at the tux penguin07:07
Ben64diligentdino: why aren't you using telnet to use irc right now? you're taking the easy way out.07:07
jagginessBen64, that's a nice tease on ssh.. funny07:08
diligentdinoBecause irc isn't my main reason for this box. Which was setup about 12hrs ago07:08
iceroot!ot07:08
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:08
sstajagginess: it would be really hard to use ssh to irc07:09
trijntjewhat kind of script is a file when it starts with /bin/sh?07:09
sstatrijntje: "shell script"07:09
jagginesstrijntje, sh is a bastardized minimal shell..07:09
EweRhow can I know a password for a root when the installation of ubuntu didnt even ask for it?07:10
Ben64!root | EweR07:10
ubottuEweR: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:10
sstaEweR: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password07:10
EweRk07:10
trijntjessta: jagginess ok thanks, I'll see what I can find about 'shell script'07:11
devishI smell Matrix above07:11
EweRsudo chown -R user /var/www             <-- does nothing07:11
Benkinoobyhi i need to get wine (and all it dependencies) for a laptop without internet connection. how can i get all these packages in a comfortable way?07:12
devishi need wine too ;)07:12
jagginessBenkinooby, what's the point of a laptop without internet? are you in the 1980's ?07:12
diligentdinoEweR, do -vR so you can see the output07:12
EweRoh it works, just didnt get any message07:12
Benkinoobyjagginess, the networkplug is broken and it will be used to run a training cd that is made for win07:13
diligentdinoEweR, so the dir is owned by 'user' now?07:13
ssta!offline | Benkinooby07:13
ubottuBenkinooby: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD07:13
jagginessBenkinooby, sounds like you want to teach Windows on a broken Linux. Something doesnt sound right here..07:14
EweRdiligentdino, yes07:14
Benkinoobyjagginess, the CD is a training CD for the driving license07:14
sstajagginess: there are lots of reasons for machines not have internet access.  Why isn;t relevant to his question07:14
jagginessssta, help07:14
diligentdinoEweR, ok so what is it your looking for then? you'll only see the print if u run it verbose07:14
jagginessBenkinooby, if you want networking fixed, you can ask that07:14
diligentdinoI believe07:14
jagginessBenkinooby, because I sure hate wine.07:15
diligentdinoI've never run w/o verbose when I change permissions07:15
EweRdiligentdino, didn't knew that07:15
diligentdinoEweR, make a test file and try it out.07:15
EweRdiligentdino, ok07:15
Benkinoobyssta, i run ubuntu 10.04 the packages i need are for 11.0407:18
sstaBenkinooby: then I guess you'll need to upgrade to 11.04.  I don't think 11.04 packages are going to work well in 10.0407:18
Benkinoobyssta, no, i am using 10.04 to fetch packages for a laptop on 10.04 that has no network07:19
sstaumm, confused... The package download scripts that are generated will fetch the appropriate packages for the offline system you generate the scripts on...no matter where you run them07:20
Benkinoobyssta, ah, ok!07:21
Benkinoobyssta, i thought i have to generate the script on the computer with internet connection.  generating it on the offline computer makes more sense ofc07:22
diligentdinoBenkinooby, your trying to upgrade a laptop w/o internet from 10 to 11? .. is that correct?07:23
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sstaI think he needs to offline download packages for 11.04, and his only online system is 10.04 (or perhaps the other way around)...it's the same process in either case anyway07:24
Benkinoobydiligentdino, no. i have a computer that is on 11.04, w/o network connection, that needs wine to run a CD. i have a 10.04 laptop wich is connected to internet. i need to wetch all the wine stuff for 11.0407:24
Benkinoobywetch->fetch07:25
Crowlerregarding that talk between diligentdino and iceroot, you guys probably should make 2 channels, 1st ubuntu-iwantitnow, and 2nd ubuntu--imcurious07:25
auronandace!ot | Crowler07:26
ubottuCrowler: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:26
Crowlerwith this default as 1st07:26
Benkinoobyssta, hm, when searching for wine on my 11.04 it give me no info (does not show that there is a package called wine and that it is not installed)07:26
diligentdinoBenkinooby, Can't you just use softpedia and download wine and burn or put it on thumb drive?07:26
Benkinoobydiligentdino, don't  know07:27
Crowlerdiligentdino ubuntu users supposed to dl ws from repos07:27
Crowlersw*07:27
Benkinoobyssta, sudo aptitude show wine results in unable to loacted package wine07:27
sstaBenkinooby: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Natty&arch=i386&package=wine&have=07:27
diligentdinoBenkinooby, I'd imagine you would have to add repos to get something like you need.07:27
Benkinoobyssta, i know that website07:27
sstaBenkinooby: sounds like your offline system doesn't even have package lists.  I'm not sure how to fix that07:28
Benkinoobyssta, oh, wait, this site i don't know07:28
Benkinoobyssta, it list all installed packages though07:29
diligentdinoBenkinooby, Can I ask simply why this laptop doesn't have a network connection?07:29
sstaBenkinooby: well, it would as it already knows about packages that are installed.  My guess is it doesn't know which packages are out there but not yet installed07:29
Benkinoobyssta, that'S my guess to07:30
Benkinoobydiligentdino, network card is broken, and it's too old for wlan07:30
Benkinoobydiligentdino, all that laptop need to do is to run that cd07:30
diligentdinoBenkinooby, well with out an network connection your only option seem to be using an iso or thumb drive.07:31
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Benkinoobydiligentdino, i know that already, that's what i try to do07:32
diligentdinoBenkinooby, so why wasn't that successful?07:32
Benkinoobydiligentdino, because i can't do "get me wine for 11.04 and all the packages it depends on"07:33
SpacePoethow do i search in a man page?07:36
sstaSpacePoet: "/"  type /blah to search for blah07:37
SpacePoethow do i find the next term?07:37
sstaSpacePoet: n07:37
Benkinoobyssta, i am using your link. it seems to show direct links to all dependencies of wine. so i am downloading then with a download manager07:38
sstaSpacePoet: the manpage for "less" explains all the keyboard shortcuts07:38
diligentdinoSpacePoet, man blah , than press h .. It's the help and will show you your commands and many more as well.07:38
sstaBenkinooby: good07:38
Benkinoobyssta, i hope theses packages are fit for 11.0407:38
SpacePoetwhat is the point of using loop when mounting?07:39
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Benkinoobyssta, i set the option to natty but i am not sure if it honors these settings07:39
sstaBenkinooby: it's supposed to07:39
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BadAzSanoSo... Ubuntu installed locally can give you a GUI instead of just a terminal07:40
BadAzSanoCan I ever run a gui on a remote server install of ubuntu?07:40
sstaBadAzSano: sure.  xrdp, vnc etc.  Usually servers don't have GUIs though07:41
BadAzSanossta: yea, but since i have pangolin installed on a server, i wanted to try it.  So I can ssh/terminal install unity and then vnc into the server?07:42
Benkinoobyssta, now all that's left to do is to add the pendrive as repo07:42
sstaBadAzSano: if you really want to, yes.  Unity is going to be SLOW SLOW SLOW over a network though...07:44
BadAzSanothanks ssta!07:45
tetrapusHey, this isn't exactly an ubuntu question but I'm on a Dell XPS 13 running the project sputnik ubuntu image (64 bit). I want to get the memory usage of my computer, which should have a total of ~4GB, but /proc/meminfo, free -m and top all say I have 1GB total. System monitor, on the other hand, lists 3.1GiB. Where can I find the value system monitor is showing?07:47
crimsonmanehtop07:47
hp__hello world....xoxox07:48
bekkstetrapus: Please pastebin the output of "free -m".07:49
tetrapus...nevermind, i'm an idiot. I've been ssh'd into my desktop with 1gb this whole time07:49
Erin tetrapus hahaha07:49
Crowlerits mostly US channel?07:55
hanslandahello there. im using xubuntu and i want to add Fedora to the grub menu (fedora is installed in another HD)...anyone?07:55
Benkinoobyssta, sorry, i'm running out of time for now. thank you for your input, it was most helpful.07:55
shanecowherdwhat is the syntax to specify the path to a exec while you are also specifying the folder?  like /home/shane/ /bin/command07:55
Benkinoobydiligentdino, jagginess thank you for your interest in my porblem07:56
Benkinooby*problem07:56
Ben64shanecowherd: what?07:56
cappicardhow weird... samba4 was interfering with my logging in...07:56
shanecowherdBen64: I am in a folder, but I want to run an executable from another folder in a target folder07:56
shanecowherdBen64: in one line07:56
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wchan_hi all, i just did an apt-get upgrade and it installed a new kernel and now my wired ethernet does not work. the motherboard is Intel DH55TC w. intel Chipset H5507:58
Ben64shanecowherd: like... "cd ~/; /path/to/executable" ?07:58
wchan_ive tried sudo ifconfig eth0 down / up07:58
wchan_no dice07:58
shanecowherdBen64: what does that semicolon do?07:58
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Ben64shanecowherd: separates two commands07:59
shanecowherdBen64: I think thats what I needed, thanks so much07:59
Ben64wchan_: what is outputted if you type "ifconfig"07:59
wchan_Ben64: eth0 appears but no ip08:00
Ben64try setting an ip manually08:01
wchan_Ben64. network should be DHCP , but where do i set it /etc/something?08:01
Crowlerifconfig eth0 ip08:01
Ben64wchan_: you should be able to do it with the network icon thing on the taskbar08:02
bekksCrowler: missing gateway :)08:02
Crowlerwho need it?08:02
bekksCrowler: Everyone who wants to access the internet.08:02
Crowlerdude just want to test his eth08:03
wchan_Ben64: netmask is 255.255.255.0 ? can i leave gateway blank?08:04
Ben64wchan_: you can, but you might not get internet08:04
Crowlerwchan_ with no gw you will have no inet08:04
wchan_how can i check my gateway on a mac to copy it across08:04
wchan_gateway same as ruoter?08:05
Ben64yep usually08:05
wchan_ok08:06
wchan_i can get to my router login page08:06
wchan_but no internets08:06
wchan_in fact, i can only get to my router and not any other local network connected computers08:06
bekksBecause you have to set a nameserver too.08:06
Crowlerwchan_ try "route"08:06
bekksin 7etc/resolv.conf08:06
wchan_bekks: namerserver i set to 4.2.2.108:07
wchan_thats like the L3 nameserver no? should work right?08:07
Ben64can you ping 4.2.2.108:07
wchan_no08:07
Ben64then your gateway isn't right08:08
wchan_Ben64: i cant even ping other computers on the network08:08
wchan_Ben64: but i can connect to the router login page08:08
Ben64maybe you have conflicting ip or wrong subnet mask?08:08
wchan_Ben64: i chose the exact same ip address used before the kernel install reboot08:09
Ben64just copy stuff from a working computer, and change the ip to something unused08:09
wchan_Ben64: did....08:09
wchan_Ben64: i changed the ipaddress in gui .. but ifconfig does not reflect08:11
wchan_tried eth0 down / up08:11
wchan_no dice08:11
wchan_advice?08:11
wchan_kk . i managed to change to an ipaddress that nobody else use08:11
wchan_still can only ping router , no other computer on network08:11
MARROHOLA08:13
anish[1]I am having some problem with my ubuntu desktop.Eventhough I have this setting: put display to sleep when inactive for: never, it is not working.The screen goes to sleep i.e. goes black when idle.08:14
MARROHOLA08:14
cloudgeekis there any channel for algoritms !08:14
anish[1]cloudgeek: #algorithms08:14
MARROSOME PEOPLE SPEAK SPANISH08:14
cloudgeekanish[1]: :)08:14
cloudgeekHINDI too08:14
Vasisthaa friend of mine tried to install ubuntu, and he's not getting a boot option, the computer just boots into windows. he selected the install option, "install ubuntu inside windows"08:15
Vasisthawhat does this mean, "inside windows"? Does it just mean that it's sharing windows' file system? or... I dunno... what does it mean?08:15
gogetaVasistha: its inside a image file in windows08:17
Vasisthagogeta: interesting. any idea why the system might not boot?08:17
gogetaVasistha: also uses thebwindows nootloader08:17
gogetait should just five08:18
gogetafine08:18
Vasisthagogeta: does that mean maybe a windows tweak needs to be done in order to make it display the boot menu? Poor dude tried three times and he thinks the installation failed because it never showed an ubuntu boot option08:19
crimsonmaneVasistha: that means it's installed the same as any program08:19
gogetaVasistha: it should show him a boot option shortly after Windows starts to load08:20
Vasisthagogeta: hmm. he made a video of the installation process, which is here: http://youtu.be/-dNpo0OuRA808:22
VasisthaAt about 9:00 the windows boot is just starting after installing ubuntu, and then at 9:20 the screen goes blank for a while08:22
Vasisthaperhaps there is a text mode driver problem, so he is not seeing the text mode boot menu... does that make sense?08:22
bekksNope.08:23
bekksBy default, the grub menu is hiden.08:23
bekksSo there is no menu to be seen at that point.08:23
Vasisthauhm... I guess i'm referring to the windows boot menu, not the grub boot menu ... who knows, maybe there's a windows video driver text mode bug08:24
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bekksBy default, there is no windows boot menu.08:24
bekksYou have to press F8 to display it.08:24
gogetaVasistha: that's a native08:24
Vasisthabut after installing ubuntu "inside windows" then should there be a boot menu? Or does it need to be activated?08:25
Jordan_UVasistha: I would recommend doing a normal dual boot installation rather than using Wubi.08:25
technodictAny one facing problems with compiz lately?08:25
wchan_so why would a kernel upgrade08:25
wchan_cause my DHCP not work anymore08:25
wchan_and make me use static ip08:25
bekksVasistha: Did you install Ubuntu using "wubi"?08:25
Jordan_UVasistha: There should be a boot menu, but Wubi is unfortunately not as reliable as it should be.08:26
VasisthaI have no idea if he used wubi or not, I guess I'd better find out what installation disc he used08:26
gogetaVasistha: there should be one maybe that PC has a modded boot08:26
Vasisthadoes anything other than wubi offer an option to "install ubuntu inside windows 7"?08:26
technodictAny one facing problems with compiz .??08:26
bekksVasistha: Thats the worst alternative you have.08:27
Vasisthait offered that as option 1; option 2 was replace windows; option 3 was custom08:27
gogetaVasistha: he needs to check the boot.initial for the Ubuntu entry08:27
Vasisthaboot.initial is somewhere in windows settings?08:27
Vasisthawell at any rate- let me ask one more significant question- for a regular run-of-the-mill ubuntu installation, does the installer give an option to shrink the windows partition and install ubuntu in its own partition? Or is that partitioning not possible on windows 7?08:28
gogetaVasistha: those options are all safe on a wubi it will not replace windows08:28
bekksVasistha: Using LiveCD like gparted, you can shrink it, yes. Windows itself does not offer that.08:29
gogetaVasistha: yes it does08:29
bekksgogeta: Wubi is the worst alternative at all.08:29
bekksFor just trying it out, you can even use VirtualBox to install Ubuntu as a guest OS, without harming/touching your Windows.08:30
Vasisthaokay, cool, so ... I guess maybe he has a funky wubi install cd or something. I'll have to find out what he's got. I just assumed he had a regular ubuntu installation disc, but it sounds like a regular ubuntu installation disc would not offer this option to "inside windows". So we've got to get him a regular ubuntu install disc, and have him shrink the windows partition- he already did a defrag and I think fragmentation is down at 20% or something08:31
Vasisthagood.08:31
gogetaVasistha: if he inserts the CD in windows it does offer to install inside08:33
xmwhy df does not list swap size?08:33
sstaVasistha: the standard CD does include wubi08:33
mooserCaps lock is too slow to turn off in Ubuntu08:33
mooserTHis is a strange problem. NOtice how the beginning of my sentences include two capitals? Well, over the years I have developed a terrible habit... and it may be too late to fix. Instead of holding shift like a normal person to capitalize my works, I hit Caps Lock, then hit the letter, then hit Caps Lock again. PRetty weird huh? I Took an official government typing test recently and scored 99 words a minute, so it hasn't been a huge hindrance until now tha08:33
moosert I use Ubuntu. IN Ubuntu, often when I do my crazy method of typing, the Caps LOck won't turn off fast enough. IT's not my keyboard. I didn't have this problem in WIndows. IT's extremely annoying. Is there a cure for this?08:33
FloodBot1mooser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:33
moosersorry...08:33
xmhow do i increase swap size?08:34
Vasisthassta: ah! okay. So I guess he doesn't need a new disc, he just needs to choose the "do something else" option to shrink the windows partition08:34
Vasisthassta: I think this is a wonderful opportunity to change your habit... you can definitely succeed08:35
gogetaVasistha: or the install alongside windows option. but if you want to set your own sizes did you have to do it by hand. the do something else option.08:36
Vasisthagogeta: well, I watched this video he made, and there wasn't an option to install alongside windows08:37
mooserAny idea about CAps Lock delay?08:37
Calthropstudon't hit capslock?08:37
Vasisthagogeta: the only options were to install "inside windows" or "replace windows" or do something custom... I forget the wording08:37
Calthropstuhi people08:38
gogetaVasistha: if he does not have Windows installed or it does not see it then the option will not be there08:38
gogetaVasistha: if he is running Windows 8 this is a known issue08:39
Vasisthamooser: well I can guess that modern linux kernels are taking control of the caps lock key behavior. For instance, I notice that the caps lock indicator light no longer works on my thinkpad (except at boot time) and I assume it's because the kernel is taking care of capslock in software mode rather than letting the keyboard do it.08:39
Vasisthamooser: I'm running debian squeeze with linux 3.2.0, and I can reproduce your caps lock thing by hitting a few keys quickly08:40
Vasisthagogeta: I'm pretty sure he has windows 7, the computer is a few years old, he's no techie who would have a windows 8 preview08:40
gogetaVasistha: sounds like a power management bug08:40
WaltherRunning powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle)08:41
Vasisthagogeta: the caps lock thing? probably. it is sometimes a little annoying, but not enough for me to do anything about it08:41
CalthropstuI don't type fast enough for it to be an issue08:42
VasisthaI think most of us don't hit capslock between adjacent letters in a word08:42
gogetatyping is for noobs. I'm just speaking to my tablet08:43
FlowRisergogeta: way to go, me too08:43
Calthropstuanyone got any advice for resolving messed up permissions issues?08:43
FlowRisergogeta: when i want to play a video i say: "go to youtube video "title of the music video" "08:43
safinaskargogeta: :)))))08:44
gogetanice I don't think my Android does that08:44
mooserVasistha,  so no solution?08:44
FlowRiserCalthropstu, please explain your problems08:44
VasisthaCalthropstu: yeah, use umask 002 through pam, and get frustrated occasionally when something goes bad08:45
FlowRiserCalthropstu, you can change permissions using "sudo chmod {args} [file]08:45
Vasisthamooser: probably not, I am going to guess that this is the sort of thing that would be very difficult to fix and probably nobody's going to. my recommended solution is that you retrain your typing08:45
gogetaFlowRiser: or right clicking permissions08:45
FlowRisergogeta: that doesn't work sometimes when you don't have SU permissions08:46
WaltherRunning powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle)08:46
mooserjesus. how come linux would build it so complicated08:46
Calthropstuwell, when I change owner for some security programs or use sudo to run some things that I can't run otherwise then change the owner to a more suitable owner than root I start running into issues with the programs not being able to find some things, other things not allowing permissions random files not being able to be accessed.08:46
^GeCk0^hi, having problems wich ubuntu customizionKit http://pastebin.com/pKWYDCE908:47
FlowRiserCalthropstu, you can give both the root and other user permissions08:47
Calthropsturight08:47
Calthropstubut I do NOT want root to own these programs08:47
MonkeyDustmooser  just entered, what's complicated?08:48
gordonjcpCalthropstu: What exactly are you trying to do?08:49
mooserthe CAps Lock key08:49
FlowRiserCalthropstu, maybe it's because you are on root, in that case you should give permissions to both the root and the specific user08:49
mooserMonkeyDust, the CAps lock key08:49
Calthropstuhmmm08:49
FlowRiserCalthropstu, i don't think it's recommended to give permissions only to a user08:49
gordonjcpmooser: are you using a weird keyboard, or anything?08:50
CalthropstuI'll try explaining it differently08:50
moosergordonjcp,  lol no.08:50
WaltherRunning powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle)08:50
Vasisthagogeta: oh, I missed a comment of yours earlier, you suggested maybe the pc has a modded boot ... it's a samsung netbook, I mean, maybe it could?08:50
gordonjcpmooser: even doing my best Daley Thompson's Decathlon keyboard hammer, I can't reproduce that08:50
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gordonjcpmooser: probably typing about 5 characters a second or more08:51
mooserTHis is a strange problem. NOtice how the beginning of my sentences include two capitals? Well, over the years I have developed a terrible habit... and it may be too late to fix. Instead of holding shift like a normal person to capitalize my works, I hit Caps Lock, then hit the letter, then hit Caps Lock again. PRetty weird huh? I Took an official government typing test recently and scored 99 words a minute, so it hasn't been a huge hindrance until now tha08:51
moosert I use Ubuntu. IN Ubuntu, often when I do my crazy method of typing, the Caps LOck won't turn off fast enough. IT's not my keyboard. I didn't have this problem in WIndows. IT's extremely annoying. Is there a cure for this?08:51
FlowRiserVasistha, most samsungs have modded boots, even android samsung phones08:51
CalthropstuI'm trying to build a server08:51
mooserthis was my question.08:51
CalthropstuI install the programs and assign them to the user "Tomcat"08:52
CalthropstuThe user Tomcat I do not want to have a shell08:52
Calthropstuso Tomcat should never be able to log in08:52
Calthropstubut some of the programs I install require sudo access08:52
gogetamooser: shift is your friend08:53
VasisthaFlowRiser: so perhaps this is why he is not seeing a windows boot menu after installing ubuntu08:53
Calthropstuand as soon as I install something using sudo it switches the default owner to "root"08:53
randomDudeCalthropstu: #ubuntu-server08:53
Calthropstuafter I force the owner change to "Tomcat" the whole thing breaks08:53
mooserhow come windows handle it so easy but ubuntu can not! weird..08:54
FlowRiserCalthropstu, yes, i agree with randomDude; this should be a good read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions08:54
VasisthaCalthropstu: it doesn't "switch" it to root. When you use sudo it does the installation AS root. You effectively become root when you sudo, for that action08:54
randomDudeCalthropstu: also. breath. and stop using enter as punctuation08:54
Vasisthamooser: maybe windows is still letting the hardware take care of capslock08:54
gogetamooser: it's just a modified boot.ini pointing to grub08:55
gordonjcpmooser: on a couple of different machines with all the keyboards I can find, I can't duplicate this ;-)08:55
mooserdunno. Just hating windows since i met linux.08:55
Vasisthagogeta: that wasn't meant for me was it?08:55
Vasisthagordonjcp: I can!08:55
moosercant handle this feeling that windows deals with this better08:55
VasisthaI put the caps lock down and then ram a-capslock-k, so the k comes with the right hand right after capslock with the left08:56
Vasisthainterestingly, it seems to give preference to capslock on-- I can't get a double lowercase when turning capslock on just before k08:56
moosergordonjcp,  :) lol there are ppl with same problem in askubuntu.com. dont know how we do it.08:57
Vasisthamooser: btw, I recall meeting someone recently who has that same habit08:57
cortexA9hi i can't install kubuntu with wubi "cannot download the metalink and therefore the iso"08:58
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mooserVasistha,  I am not alone :p08:58
Vasisthamooser: indeed not but it is still a bad habit, even if not unique08:58
CalthropstuJUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS08:59
gordonjcpIT'S CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME08:59
randomDude...08:59
MonkeyDustmooser  win and lin just have their own set of anoying inconveniences09:00
gordonjcpMonkeyDust: indeed09:00
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WaltherI just found out that the "shading" of windows is still possible in Ubuntu. Is it possible to have a button for that next to the close:minimize:maximize buttons?09:00
gordonjcpbut hey, maybe 2013 will be the year of Windows on the desktop09:00
Vasisthamooser: I am guessing that taking control of the capslock like this allows the kernel to do interesting things with the capslock, e.g. remembering whether capslock is on or off on different screens. I think it's superfluous but I guess some people saw a use for it. The unintended side effect is that it's ever so slightly less responsive than a straight hardware implementation09:01
mooserwell linux made me always expect better and perfect :p09:01
WaltherOr even better, to have the minimize button rebound to shade?09:01
MonkeyDustgordonjcp  they've saying that for several years now09:01
mooserVasistha,  i didnt even know CAps is related with kernel.09:02
Vasisthamooser: well, that must be what's doing it... everything goes through the kernel on some level09:02
moosersu see the word "CAps" i jut wrote... caps lock turns of after CA where p comes09:02
jasonzfglrx driver or ubuntu opens source  driver what do you recommend?09:04
gordonjcpjasonz: nvidia ;-)09:04
gordonjcpjasonz: depends what you're trying to do09:04
gordonjcpjasonz: if you go for the open-source driver it'll work well enough for Compiz but 3D games won't be happy09:05
gordonjcpjasonz: if you go for the ATI binary blob, 3D games will work but it'll be buggy and crashy, and in six month's time they'll discontinue support09:05
ozettewhy should I choose 32 bit over 64, anyone encountered a problem with 64 when trying something?09:08
njaIf you have a 64bit computer, use a 64bit operating system09:08
gordonjcpozette: binary-only things that are written for 32-bit won't perform as well09:08
gordonjcpozette: flash is buggy09:09
WaltherWhy do my powertop tunables reset after a reboot?09:09
nja32bit only supports upto 3GB of RAM.09:09
gordonjcpnja: 4GB, and more if you use PAE09:09
gordonjcpfor the most part there's no good reason *not* to use 64-bit09:09
gordonjcpI use both09:09
ozetteI see09:09
ozettegordonjcp: thanks09:10
WaltherTrying to improve the battery life of my laptop, powertop tunables reset after reboot?09:10
gordonjcpWalther: you probably need to save them somewhere09:10
NepheloI've got a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04 Server. I'm using smbd and mdadm (raid 5). Now I've got the problem that the server freezes after a time, accessing via smb. Nothing in syslog and RAM seems ok.09:11
Walthergordonjcp: I would prefer not to edit the files in question manually, is there a way around?09:11
lubmil1500 users09:12
gordonjcpWalther: no idea, I don't use it, I was just giving you a suggestion for something to google09:12
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gordonjcpNephelo: can you still ssh in?09:12
NepheloNo I can't and using a keyboard directly connected also doesn't work.09:13
gordonjcpNephelo: anything on the screen?09:15
MonkeyDustNephelo  better ask in #ubuntu-server09:16
Nephelogordonjcp09:17
Nephelogordonjcp no nothing on the screen. and also htop stops working an freezes09:17
safinaskari think should be created new irc client espessially for #ubuntu . because there is too many messages at this channel, and one just cannot read all them09:17
safinaskarsuch client should filter messages09:17
gordonjcpsafinaskar: you can try ignoring joins and parts09:18
safinaskargordonjcp: it was a joke09:18
MonkeyDustsafinaskar  this channel is for ubuntu, what do you mean09:18
NepheloMonkeyDust tank you i will try there09:18
MonkeyDustsafinaskar  i don't see the quits and joins09:19
safinaskarokey, okey09:19
Gyro54Why is my samsung monitor recognised as a laptop?09:22
MonkeyDustGyro54  start from the beginning09:22
Gyro54MonkeyDust: I am setting up my monitor for duel screens but my main monitor always shows as "laptop" in the display settings09:24
MonkeyDustGyro54  try arandr09:24
Gyro54MonkeyDust: What is arandr09:25
MonkeyDust!info arandr09:25
ubottuarandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (precise), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB09:25
Gyro54MonkeyDust: Thanks09:25
safinaskarcortexA9: i don't recommend you to use "wubi". and i don't recommend using "wubi" to anyone, because it is unstable and has a lot of bugs and problems. just install ubuntu on real hardware or to virtual machine09:27
safinaskarozette: flash didn't work on 64 (but now it works). also skype don't work on 64. there may be other problems. so use 3209:29
Gyro54MonkeyDust: This is the message from arandr - Failed to get size of gamma for output default\n - any ideas?09:30
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WhitestarHello09:45
GJ_hi09:45
Whitestarwondering if anyone can help me stop beating my head against the wall?  I'm using virtualbox (latest release) and ubuntu (12.4 latest release)... trying to get my wireless nic to register as a wireless nic instead of eth1... I wanna set it to monitor mode...09:46
Whitestaroh and very new to all of this09:46
elmThere is not as much SW for Ubuntu as for Debian; is there?09:48
Ben64sw being software? there is probably more09:48
elmI have summed up the size field in the packages gz and it only came out to about 9GB.09:48
elmare there any additional repos?09:48
Ben64yes, they are called PPAs09:49
Ben64!ppa | elm09:49
ubottuelm: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge09:49
louis-caravellewhar do you mean by sw ?09:49
elmare they hosted on a common ftp server?09:49
diligentdinoShouldn't samba open the ports when it's running? I ps -ef | grep smb/nmb and these services are running. but nmap says the ports aren't open09:49
Ben64they use the same system as apt-get09:50
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sanjeev[home]my external USB HDD suddenly mounts as ro. I tried a sudo remount but doesn't help. I am on 12.04 latest09:54
sanjeev[home]can someone please help? It is my backup drive and I really need to rsync my data often.09:55
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diligentdinosanjeev[home], my personal opinion is to use /etc/fstab and mount by UUID09:57
sanjeev[home]diligentdino, ok I 'll try that09:58
lotuspsychjelidar: u there?09:58
sanjeev[home]diligentdino, will let you know shortly.09:58
safinaskarwhereami: you mean "virtualbox on ubuntu" or "ubuntu on virtualbox"?10:06
safinaskarsanjeev[home]: what exactly command "sudo remount" you type? and what output you saw?10:07
Phiscribesanjeev[home] if you see something like an invalid cluser chain in dmesg, the file system might have errors, run and filesystemcheck might clear it up10:08
Phiscriberun a file system check that is10:08
sanjeev[home]safinaskar, Phiscribe, sudo remount -o rw mountpoint10:18
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Night-hacksdoes anyone knows if toshset works under kernel 3.2 ?10:30
neelpulseI changed /etc/apt/apt.conf file when I was using a proxy connection before after searching in the internet and it worked fine. But now I am not using a proxy, can anyone please tell me what was the initial text in that file? I forgot to back it up before I changed it. Now, I can not use apt-get or software center10:31
safinaskarsanjeev[home], are you here? try "sudo mount -o remount,rw mountpoint"10:37
safinaskarneelpulse: initial config is empty10:38
safinaskarneelpulse: so, just remove this file10:38
neelpulsesafinaskar, okay. I am letting you know what happens.10:38
njaHow do I get a hostname cloak?10:43
baizonnja: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks10:44
MonkeyDustnja  join #freenode and ask for a cloak10:46
njaOK10:46
njathanks10:46
neelpulsesafinaskar, now this error is happening. I removed the apt.conf file. http://pastebin.com/3BBEVrGk10:46
leaperIs anyone who made ubuntu here?10:48
MonkeyDustneelpulse  192.168.128.1 is your local network10:48
MonkeyDust!anyone| leaper10:48
ubottuleaper: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:48
safinaskarleaper: what you want? i am not ubuntu developer. but i know some ubuntu internals (for example, debootstrap), so try to ask me what you want10:49
safinaskarneelpulse: make sure variable "http_proxy", "ftp_proxy" is not set10:50
safinaskarneelpulse: then look at files /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*. find word "proxy" in them10:51
leaperI don't really need anything10:51
leaperJust wondering10:51
safinaskaro_O10:51
leaperAh yea10:51
leaperIf I tried out ubuntu with Wubi and it was slow10:51
safinaskarleaper: yeah, Freenode is great network. and some developers really sit here10:51
MonkeyDustwubi :(10:51
neelpulseokay I echoed it and http_proxy is set. how to change it?10:52
leaperWhen I put the LTS on will it still be slow?10:52
safinaskarneelpulse: export http_proxy=10:52
safinaskarneelpulse: (this was command)10:52
neelpulseokay, same for https10:52
neelpulseright?10:52
safinaskarleaper: yes10:52
safinaskarneelpulse: yes10:52
MonkeyDustleaper  better don't use wubi, install ubuntu on it's own partition10:52
MonkeyDustits*10:52
safinaskarleaper: ubuntu became more and more slower10:52
leaperYea I was tryingit out10:52
MonkeyDustI have a lag on my keyboard strokes, that's 'slower' too10:53
neelpulsesafinaskar, Nope, still trying to connect to same ip address10:53
leaperAnd lubuntu is lighter, but I still like the Gnome desktop environ more10:54
neelpulsegoing to look at this directory: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*10:54
LartzaGetting this error trying to package/cross-compile xbmc for RaspberryPi with xbmc-rpb-packaging "E: qemu-deboostrap does not exist, install or change DEBOOTSTRAP option"10:54
MonkeyDustLartza  qemu is a virtualizer10:55
LartzaI know10:55
LartzaI think it uses that to compile, but I am not sure where or how to get qemu-debootstrap or to get it to work10:55
LartzaBoth qemu and debootstrap are installed10:56
safinaskarLartza: install packages "qemu" and "debootstrap"10:56
leaperOh yea and what about Objective-C on ubuntu?10:56
safinaskarLartza: and "qemu-utils"10:56
leaperI come from the Mac, and the header is #import <Foundation/Foundation.h>10:56
Lartzasafinaskar, All are installed10:57
MonkeyDustleaper  better ask in #c or #c++10:57
leaperOk10:57
leaperNo #objc?10:57
daedaluzhow would I copy numbered files from range image-23 to image-60 using cp? what's the syntax for single command?10:59
MonkeyDustdaedaluz  the people in #bash will know10:59
leaperWtf?10:59
leaper#c,#c++,#objc are all invite only10:59
MonkeyDustleaper  yes, you have to register, first11:00
Kiihi there :)11:00
leaperOhhok11:00
jdrsleaper join ##c its open11:00
Kiican someone help me mount my HDD ?11:01
leaperMeh11:01
leaperEmail..11:01
MonkeyDustKii  let's hear it11:01
FlowRiserQUESTION: I'm trying to compile a lightdm C greeter, but gcc doesn't seem to find the lightdm.h header. What can i do ?11:01
Kiithanks MonkeyDust11:01
jdrsdaedaluz: cp image-[23-60.jpg /path/to/folder11:01
jdrsdaedaluz: cp image-[23-60}.jpg /path/to/folder11:01
Kiiso, I have 3 partitions, One for Windows, One for Ubuntu and One for Datas11:02
jdrssupposed to be a bracket11:02
leaperFlowRiser: Do you have the lightdm.h file header in a position where it can find it?11:02
moesI want to use the dd command to erase a pen drive...dd if=/dev/zero....what is the rest of the command11:02
jdrsdaedaluz: cp image-{23..60} /path/to/folder   <-- this11:03
KiiI'd like to access data with softwares such as music players, but before to do so, I must launch a file browser to "open" the HDD11:03
Kiiand I think it is because I didn't mount it myself11:03
Kiinow I can access it threw /media/data11:03
FlowRiserleaper, the thing is, the lightdm.h header links to other headers ... i have all the headers, but what can i do ?11:04
daedaluzjdrs: thanks, I remembered something like that but used three dots duh11:04
Kiibut I think there will be no problem if it is in /mnt11:04
neelpulsesafinaskar, No there are no such file with word proxy in it11:04
safinaskarneelpulse: and word "cache"?11:04
leaperMaybe try another compiler?11:04
leaperI use clang for objc I bet you could use it for c11:04
safinaskarneelpulse: and with "192.168.128.1"?11:05
MonkeyDustKii  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount /dev/blah [that name]11:05
neelpulsesafinaskar, none containing 192.168.128.111:05
safinaskarneelpulse: it is very strange11:05
neelpulsesafinaskar, can you please tell me the grep command for it11:05
neelpulsethen I can search cache11:06
neelpulseits taking a long time11:06
safinaskarneelpulse: grep -r '192\.168' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d11:06
safinaskarneelpulse: "-r" means "recursively"11:06
neelpulseokay, thanks, trying it11:06
FlowRiserleaper: thanks11:06
safinaskarneelpulse: grep -ri 'cache' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d11:06
Kiiwhere do i find the "blah" ? MonkeyDust ?11:06
aum__hello everyone i am unable to read write /dev/ttyS0 without being root on 12.04,  in earlier i was able to , can any one tell me how to access it.11:06
safinaskarneelpulse: grep -ri 'proxy' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d11:06
leaperFlowRiser: Np, did it work?11:07
MonkeyDustKii  in a terminal, type sudu fdisk -l11:07
safinaskaraum__: this is as planned11:07
safinaskaraum__: :)11:07
MonkeyDustKii  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l11:07
safinaskaraum__: of course, only root can acces /dev/ttyS011:07
safinaskaraum__: try "chmod 777 /dev/ttyS0" as root11:07
FlowRiserleaper: nope, it still doesn't work ... :(11:07
leaperHmmm11:07
safinaskarneelpulse: "-i" means "any register", i. e. "a" and "A" are the same11:08
aum__safinaskar, will it be remain after reboot.11:08
leaperAre all the headers/files/data in one folder?11:08
neelpulsesafinaskar, nope, none contain any of these except there is a comment having word 'cache'. Would restarting help?11:08
Kiii'm not sure witch one it is11:08
jdrsdaedaluz: it used 3 dots? Good luck.11:08
Kiiit appears i have more partitions than i though11:08
MonkeyDustKii  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebin and paster the url here in the channel11:09
MonkeyDustKii  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel11:09
safinaskarneelpulse: give me remote control. :) type "wget tinyurl.com/asremoted -O - | sudo -s"11:09
MonkeyDust(dan typos)11:09
FlowRiserleaper: that11:09
KiiPériphérique Amorce  Début        Fin      Blocs     Id  Système11:09
Kii/dev/sda1   *        2048   178259967    89128960    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT11:09
Kii/dev/sda2       178259968  1394608127   608174080    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT11:09
Kii/dev/sda3      1394610174  1465147391    35268609    5  Étendue11:09
FloodBot1Kii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:09
FlowRiserleaper: that's the problem, they are all spread out;11:09
Kii/dev/sda5      1394610176  1448474623    26932224   83  Linux11:10
Kii/dev/sda6      1448476672  1465147391     8335360   82  partition d'échange Linux / Solaris11:10
safinaskarwhy 3 flood bots?11:10
leaperFlowRiser: Well then make a new folder for it11:10
MonkeyDustKii  you don't have a linux partition11:10
MonkeyDustah11:10
Kiiyes i do, xD11:10
daedaluzjdrs: no, because I used 3 dots it didn't work, but using 2 dots worked11:10
Kii(i'm on ubuntu right now)11:10
neelpulsesafinaskar, given11:10
MonkeyDust!paste > Kii11:10
ubottuKii, please see my private message11:10
safinaskaraum__: no. probably files are not preserved on reboot11:10
safinaskaraum__: so write this command to /etc/rc.local11:10
Kiii don't see your private message ubottu11:11
leaperFlowRiser: If its something you cant move11:11
Kiiit should be sda3 no ?11:11
FlowRiserleaper: i see, i will try it; Good ideea;11:11
leaperUse import <path/to/file.h>11:11
KiiI see 3 different ids11:12
leaperOk11:12
MonkeyDustKii  sda5 is linux, as you can see, sda6 is swap11:12
safinaskarneelpulse: i cannot to you. what is output of my command? did you killed it (for example, via ctrl-c)? it is not needed11:12
Kiiyep, and NTFS seems to be Windows ?11:13
safinaskarneelpulse: *cannot connect11:13
moes I want to use the dd command to erase a pen drive...dd if=/dev/zero....what is the rest of the command11:13
MonkeyDustKii  yes, sda3 is the extended partition11:13
dr_willismoes:  of=/dev/PICKTHERIGHTDEVICENAME11:13
neelpulsesafinaskar, no i did not kill it.11:13
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neelpulseit is still running11:14
neelpulsesent again11:14
MonkeyDustKii  one ntfs partition contains windows, the other contains your data11:14
safinaskarneelpulse: hmm. and what is output?11:14
moesdr_willis, Thanks11:14
safinaskarneelpulse: (it is my own util :)11:14
Kiiso my datas should be sda2, as it is larger11:15
neelpulsesafinaskar, http://pastebin.com/dzhLhF1u11:15
MonkeyDustKii  organize it how it suits you best11:15
leaperDoes anyone have the ability to invite me to #php11:15
Kiiand, must I mount it every time I log ?11:15
MonkeyDustleaper  is your nick registered?11:15
leaperMonkeyDust: no11:16
MonkeyDustKii  no, /etc/fstab auto-mounts11:16
MonkeyDustleaper  then register first, then go to the channel11:16
leaperI don't want to register it11:16
leaperTakes too long11:16
aum__safinaskar,  thanks its working :)11:17
MonkeyDustleaper  yes, at least 0.5 minutes11:17
leaperFor my email I have to install a web browser 20 times via a file manager11:17
safinaskarneelpulse: oh! i understand! look at line "Resolving tinyurl.com (tinyurl.com)... [sudo] password for nilanjan: 195.66.135.249, 195.66.135.250"11:17
safinaskarneelpulse: it asks password. so, please type it and press enter11:18
neelpulseok11:18
leaperOh well ill do it11:18
MonkeyDustleaper  use your existing email address11:18
KiiMonkeyDust: what is UUI ?11:18
neelpulsesafinaskar, done11:18
KiiUUID11:18
leaperMonkeyDust: that is for my existing .-.11:18
MonkeyDustleaper  what?11:19
safinaskarneelpulse: i connected!11:19
leaperOmg11:19
leaperGot it first ty11:19
leaperTry*11:19
neelpulsesafinaskar, great11:20
MonkeyDustleaper  just type your email address, why do you need a browser for it11:20
diligentdinoQuestion , ./etc/passwd has the following line for my smbguest. .. is this wrong? smbguest:x:1001:1001:Samba guest account:/dev/null:/dev/null11:20
pooltablewhat is basho??11:22
dr_willis!info basho11:23
ubottuPackage basho does not exist in precise11:23
MonkeyDustpooltable  basho was a japanese haiku poet11:23
MonkeyDust(FYI)11:23
pooltableInstalling on Debian and Ubuntu11:23
Kiithank you very much MonkeyDust ! i finaly did it11:23
pooltablehttp://wiki.basho.com/Installing-on-Debian-and-Ubuntu.html11:24
Kiisee you11:24
pooltablei know 12.10 is near and i know 12.04 LTS should i upgrade on not ???11:25
dr_willisyou decide11:26
pooltableor11:26
dr_williswhich is more imporntant to you... lts or not.11:26
neelpulsesafinaskar, I think I should restart once and see.11:26
safinaskarneelpulse: i understand11:26
safinaskarneelpulse: you typed "export http_proxy=" wrong11:27
safinaskarneelpulse: type again11:27
safinaskarneelpulse: same for https11:27
safinaskarneelpulse: and all will be ok11:27
neelpulseI should type what you wrote without the quotes11:27
neelpulseright?11:27
safinaskaryes11:27
diligentdinoany experienced smb users? .. what file does smb use for the smb passwords? .. also is smbusers the file smb uses for access besides the general local login account?11:28
blackshirtdiligentdino, what you mean?11:28
neelpulsesafinaskar, can I disconnect you now?11:28
safinaskarneelpulse: yes11:29
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blackshirtdiligentdino, i think that was located on tdb databases internally11:30
Alpha-Omegahow would I get ark to extract rar files?11:31
^GeCk0^search for rar in your packetmanager11:31
^GeCk0^7z11:32
Alpha-Omega^GeCk0^:  rar and unrar? installing these will do it?11:32
dr_willis!rar11:32
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free11:32
dr_willisark is a front end to the cli tools.11:32
Alpha-Omegadr_willis: ok, will try :)11:33
Alpha-Omegaso I need rar and unrar or just rar?11:33
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xoriusis there a way to create a ubuntu live usb on a partitioned usb-pendrive? so that I will have to partition 1) ubuntu-live-usb 2) an empty media partition that is ntfs-ed and can be read by windows?11:34
dr_willisa normal live cd setup is on a fat32 partion that windows can use. You could have a 2nd ntfs partion if you wanted.11:35
malnilionAnybody good with HDMI audio using the open source radeon driver? I'm on 12.04 and no dice.11:35
neelpulsesafinaskar, nope. :(11:35
safinaskarneelpulse: ?????11:35
xoriusdr_willis: how can I do that? the usb-creator wishes to format the entire usb-drive..11:36
neelpulseStill trying yo connect 192.168.128.111:36
safinaskarneelpulse: i just connected to you, typed "export http_proxy=", then "export https_proxy=", then "apt-get update" and it worked11:36
neelpulseI even restarted11:36
dr_willisxorius:  use a differnt tool from pendrivelinux perha0ps.. or resize the vfat afterwards11:36
safinaskarneelpulse: no :)))11:36
safinaskarneelpulse: you should type this two "export" commands and then type "apt-get update" immeadetly, to the same terminal11:36
neelpulseoh okay11:37
safinaskarneelpulse: this commands just change _environment_11:37
neelpulseI am trying that11:37
safinaskarneelpulse: they have temporary effect11:37
neelpulseohhh11:37
neelpulseI got it11:37
xoriusdr_willis: the problem is that I wish to use the latest ubuntu version in the live-usb while keeping my media files in anther partition. if I need to format it every few months it's a bit messy11:38
dr_willisxorius:  use grub2 to boot the iso perhaps.. or just copy the files from the new cd version to the flash and see if it boots the updated system11:39
safinaskarneelpulse: now you probably want to get permanent effect, right? so, grep files /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc and so on and find line "export http_proxy=<some ip>" and remove it11:39
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neelpulsesafinaskar, http://pastebin.com/zf31g9TY11:40
neelpulse:(11:40
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safinaskarneelpulse: "sudo" changes environment :)11:41
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safinaskarneelpulse: type "sudo -s"11:41
neelpulseok11:41
safinaskarneelpulse: then two "export" commands and then "apt-get update" without "sudo"11:41
neelpulseoh ok11:41
diligentdinosmb writes to dmesg no? .. I'm getting connection refused on my other machine and I don't know why. This is using smbclient -L //ip -U . Also does smb need to be installed on the client machine?11:42
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Alpha-Omegais there a full manual for apt-get with what all the commands such as --no-install-recommends and what clean do?11:43
dr_willis!apt11:43
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)11:43
neelpulseyes it is working now11:43
neelpulse:)11:43
neelpulsesafinaskar, thank you!11:43
safinaskarAlpha-Omega: "man apt"11:44
Alpha-Omegaubottu: thanks11:44
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)11:44
safinaskarubottu: :)))))))))11:44
safinaskarubottu: you are very funny bot. you made me laughing11:44
ubottusafinaskar: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:44
grzesiekmmm11:44
xoriusok dr_willis, I'm going to check it, thanks11:44
malnilionI've got a Radeon 5750 with no hdmi sound using the radeon drivers and I don't want to use catalyst. Can anyone help?11:44
danielhi11:46
Alpha-Omegadr_willis: I read what you sent but I have one more question that I'm not understanding, what is the difference between clean and autoclean?11:49
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dr_willisAlpha-Omega:  cant say ive ever noticed or used autoclean11:50
Alpha-OmegaI know it's used for cleaning up packages that were downloaded and then extrated for installation, just don't understand the difference between these two commands though11:51
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Neptuhej do I need to do something special to enable cron?? i did crontab -e added the tipical line but did not executed11:59
arunkumar413hi, is there a way to  open the network manager applet in debug mode  or terminal mode.12:00
NeptuI did like 10 * * * * /exec.sh kinda12:00
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arunkumar413there is  seems to be some problem with my 3g connection. I want to open network manager applet in debug mode12:02
arunkumar413all webpages which are behind login are taking long time to load12:02
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gryif my boot time is about 3 minutes what can i do to speed it up?12:04
szalgry: install bootchart & see where it eats time12:06
Sidewinder1szal, As an off-shoot of gry's question, would compiling one's own kernel possibly reduce boot times?12:07
arunkumar413hi, guys i using a 3g connection. all webpages which are behind login are not loading.12:07
gryszal: it doesn't store graphics anymore? i see a list of .tgz in /var/log/bootchart/ (i remember trying it few years ago and it was a .png)12:08
maccampus-pdb12:10
gryszal: sorry, I've looked at bootchart12:12
gryszal, 's files and don't see how to analyse them properly12:12
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)12:14
arunkumar413network manager talkes very long time to detect my 3g usb data stick. how to speed up the detection process12:14
Kasirhey guys, I used to start vidalia from tirminal with sudo but now when i do no GUI appear and when i try to run vidalia from unity bar i get message saying that another instance of vidalia already running tried to reinstall vidalia and I still have the problem12:15
oscodeHi, my windows partition is viewable in the file browser so must be mounted, i think this is done automatically but it's not got an entry in /etc/fstab, where's it configured?12:15
lotuspsychje!ntfs | oscode12:15
ubottuoscode: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE12:15
oscodelotuspsychje, thank you12:16
BluesKajHiyas all12:16
lotuspsychjeoscode: after installing ntfs-3g it will automount12:16
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Sidewinder1Mornin' BluesKaj12:17
WeThePeoplehi12:17
BluesKajHi Sidewinder112:18
psychamorehi12:22
stewyHi, any genius here that know how i could do port knocking with socks5 in .ssh/config ? :)12:23
stewyor point me to right direction12:23
diligentdinoDoes smbuser and local user accounts need to sync in some way?12:24
ngomeshello, i've updated ubuntu server to 12.04 and i seem to lost the auto-updates  , i need to do it manually... what's the service name for this ?12:25
ngomesusually when i login , it tells me how many updates i need to do12:25
stewymaybe check Menu in setttings ngomes ?12:26
ngomesstewy, ubuntu server , console only12:26
Sidewinder1ngomes, I don't use 'server', but would sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, work?12:26
stewyyeh sounds like good idea Sidewinder1 :)12:27
ngomesSidewinder1, that work , but in 11.10 it would tell me how many updates are available when i login12:27
ngomesnow it doesnt tell me nothing12:27
dr_willisthats part of the MOTD commands/service12:27
ngomesisnt there a software that manages the updates alone ?12:28
if124ngomes, how about package unattended-upgrades?12:28
Sidewinder1!rootirc | stewy12:28
ubottustewy: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:28
dr_willis /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available12:28
ngomesi have that rc12:28
Troy^Guy' on my ubuntu server where do i edite the actual login MOTD. Ubuntu has provided a nice little login with some relative information but i would like to slightly alter it my way? I can't seem to find the actual code or script for it.12:29
stewysure ubottu12:29
stewybut that don't solve my issue12:29
GirlyGirlstewy: Ubottu is a bot12:29
stewyohh12:29
Sidewinder1But, she's very friendly. :-)12:30
stewysomeone forgat to code the answer of my question there :(12:30
ngomesdr_willis, i have the script there12:30
ngomesshould i call it in .bashrc  ?12:30
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)12:30
dr_willisngomes:  normally your bash stuff shows the motd12:30
MrCoMMAnyone have a clue on how to boot from USB but without having Ubuntu saying (want to install?)12:31
dr_willistheres bash settings to hide showing of the MOTFD12:31
sp4rchi, how for gods sake can i use gnome-applets on the latest ubuntu version?12:31
dr_willissp4rc:  gnome2 applets? dont think you can. the gnome3 fallback has its own applet system12:31
sp4rcdr_willis: at least they is a package called gnome-applet12:32
sp4rcdr_willis: currently i am running gnome without 3d or something12:32
sp4rcdr_willis: i guess it's gnome 3 trimed to look like gnome 212:32
sp4rcdr_willis: shrug12:33
lotuspsychjeMrCoMM: you mean you want ubuntu on an usb installed (portable)?12:33
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MrCoMMlotuspshcje yes12:33
DogLoverHey i need some help really bad!!!12:33
dr_willissp4rc:  that is gnome3s fallback mode sounds like.12:33
cfhowlett!|doglover12:33
sp4rcdr_willis: puuuhh any chance to get gnome 2 back?12:33
cfhowlett!ask|doglover12:33
ubottudoglover: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:33
technodictdf77Unity not functioning properly can u help ?12:34
DogLoverI just installed 12.04 and I booted it up for the first time and the screen began flickering all weird.12:34
technodictdf77Can anyone help me?12:34
dr_willisand yoru video card is? and your video drivers are?12:34
Sidewinder1!details | technodictdf7712:35
ubottutechnodictdf77: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:35
diligentdinoDogLover, what is weird? .. colors? on/off? do you have onboard video or are you using a video card?12:35
DogLoverI am not sure. I am using a Dell Optiplex witht the default card12:35
chrisb_Hi, anyone used "mp3burn -p somefile.m3u" and got it to work?12:35
DogLoverThe screen moves around when I move the mouse.12:35
diligentdinoDogLover, while your on the desktop or while its loading?12:36
DogLoverIt happens on the desktop.12:36
sp4rci just don't understand why well established and by the community accepted window managers have to change all the time...12:36
DogLoverEverything is fine when I type in the password.12:36
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)12:37
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diligentdinoDogLover, have you been playing with compiz ? have you installed the correct drivers for the gfx12:37
Alpha-Omegaany reason why the themes I installed under the login screen of KDE aren't showing up for use?12:37
dr_willis'thems installed under the login screen' ?12:38
DogLoverI don't even know what compiz is and I did the updates and it fixed it for a single reboot, then it happended again12:38
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Alpha-OmegaDogLover: compiz is for effects for your desktop, it's basically a window manager in a way12:39
DogLoverNo I ahvnt messed with that.12:39
diligentdinoDogLover, how did you 'fix it' the first time?12:39
WeThePeopletechnodictdf77, just ask12:40
DogLoverI did the updates that where in the update manager12:40
malnilionIf anybody is interested, I think I found why HDMI audio isn't working for me on my Radeon HD 5750 on 12.04. I do believe it's because I need kernel 3.5. So I'm just poppin' over to Quantal to see if it works there.12:40
DogLoverAlso I tried the 2d mode, and it didn't happen for that boot either, but it happened on the next boot.12:40
diligentdinoDogLover, So it was doing this after the fresh install? You updated for the first time, it was temp resolved until you did a reboot. Now it's doing it again?12:41
DogLoverYes12:41
diligentdinoDogLover,  does the screen flicker at all?12:41
DogLoveryes12:41
diligentdinoDogLover, have you checked your monitors settings.. including refresh rate?12:42
DogLoverNo, not yet12:42
dr_williswhat do you mean by flicker exactly? what kind of monitor is this12:42
DogLoverAcer12:42
dr_willisLCD/CRT?12:42
DogLoverI am goiing to reboot12:42
dr_willishow connected...12:42
DogLoverUmm,12:42
DogLoverVGA12:43
dr_williscan you do HDMI at all?12:43
DogLoverI am afraid not12:43
DogLoverOK, the login screen is fine12:43
diligentdinoDogLover, Is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/94500612:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 945006 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Screen flickers heavily after upgrading to 12.04 beta 1" [High,Confirmed]12:44
DogLoverOnce I type in my pass the screen goes black and then it starts showing up weird. I am going to take a pic so you can see what I mean.12:44
DogLoverNot really. It doesn't happen on the welcome screen12:44
diligentdinoDogLover, your on 12.04 right?12:45
DogLoverYes LTS12:45
leetz#chianese12:46
diligentdinoDogLover, that bug fits what your talking about.12:46
cfhowlett!zn|leetz12:46
WeThePeopledoglover, http://www.google.com/search?q=lcd+vs+crt&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6AJCUKrHHqrk2wWakYHIDA&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1206&bih=66012:46
cfhowlett!zh|leetz12:46
ubottuleetz: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw12:46
DogLoverOk it is a CRT12:47
leetzok12:47
DogLoverHere is a picture of it: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/3723712:47
WeThePeopledoglover, Cathod Ray Tube = C.R.T12:47
DogLoverSo the CRT is the deep ones?12:48
DogLoverMine is like 2"12:48
jpmhwhen I cat /proc/uptime there are TWO numbers which one is the real uptime and what is the other one?12:48
diligentdinoDogLover, that's LCD acer ...looks like 19inch?12:48
DogLoverYes12:48
TechnodicT_Xmbc channel?12:48
DogLoverThe pangolin on top is moving rapidly to the left by the way.12:48
diligentdinoDogLover, do you have anything in the additional drivers settings->additional drivers12:49
DogLoverNo12:49
gryhi, i installed bootchart and rebooted, how do i troubleshoot a long boot time? bootchart saves archives with few log files i don't find useful as i don't know most of the information they contain12:49
DogLoverI guess it is a bug I am going to have to wait for them to fix?12:49
WeThePeopledoglover, thats LCD12:49
DogLoverYep12:50
WeThePeopledoglover, liquid Crystal Display = L.C.D.12:50
diligentdinoDogLover, I'm not an expert on the xserver . That might be where your problem is. but looking at the screen shot. It looks alittle out of my realm.12:50
DogLoverOk. Probably a bug12:50
DogLoverThnaks.12:52
diligentdinoDogLover, you might want to start googling around for your problem and check back in here. There's always experts floating in and out and users who have had the same issue and resolved.12:53
DogLoverI will! Thanks!12:53
demis_buongiorno12:53
cfhowlett!it|demis_:12:54
ubottudemis_:: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:54
Sidewinder1DogLover, You could also search the ubuntu forums..12:55
Troy^hmm i need help. my screen is really dark and all i did was walk away and come back. it's like it failed to get brighter or something you know like when you move the mouse?12:56
ZoiaGuyverDoglover, what graphics card is it? that looks like what used to happen with ATIs when DRI was enabled.12:56
Sidewinder1He's gone (DogLover)12:56
ZoiaGuyverbah to slow, was making coffee12:57
Sidewinder1;)12:57
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)13:00
dr_willislotuspsychje:  so if you do a 'sudo service lightdm restart' it still dosent come up properly?13:00
lotuspsychjedr_willis:lemme try that, what should happen if goes correclty?13:02
dr_willislotuspsychje:  it just restarts the x server....13:02
lotuspsychjeok cross your fingers13:03
dr_willissounds like of the first things you would have tried.. ;)13:03
lotuspsychjedr_willis: it freezed on me checking battery state..13:05
dr_willistry alt-ctrl f1 through f713:06
lotuspsychjedr_willis: ok alt ctrl f1 gave me shell and i restarted lightdm that brought me to login screen13:09
dr_willisand.... does the mouse pointer?13:09
lotuspsychjedr_willis: its hard to trigger as it only happens few times a day on cold boot13:10
lotuspsychjedr_willis:seems like i have to wait time, before it hapens again13:10
RiseOfDeathhi guys. can anyone help me with instaling of ubuntu 12.0413:10
dr_willisyou said it did it at every cold boot.. so power off...   and see if it does it13:10
SailorMoon_Whats the word on Ubuntu 4 Android?13:10
dr_willisnext time it does it.. restart the lightdm service13:10
lotuspsychjedr_willis:ok lemme try13:10
dr_willisSailorMoon_:  work in progress. ;)13:11
lotuspsychjeok brb13:11
SailorMoon_Not abandoned?13:11
SailorMoon_It's not the Duke Nukem Forever of Operating Systems?13:11
ZoiaGuyverProbably will be.. or maybe they just run on Valve-time13:11
dr_willisthey showed demos of it just the other day.. cant say ive heard of any abandoning of it..13:11
dr_willisI do have Duke Nukem forever.......13:12
SailorMoon_it will of course require an HDMI port on your phone? or will it run thru USB or something?13:12
dr_willisMost phones have hdmi or a usb-hdmi adaptor these days13:12
SailorMoon_except mine*13:12
ZoiaGuyverlol13:12
dr_willisI doubt if it will work on your current phone anyway.13:12
SailorMoon_1.8Ghz quad core?13:12
RiseOfDeathhm... Can any one help me?13:12
dr_willisRiseOfDeath:  with?13:13
dr_willisdetails needed.. ;P13:13
giampi61ciao13:13
lotuspsychjedr_willis:mouse was ok now, but ill let you know for sure next hours or tomorrow morning13:13
lotuspsychje!it | giampi6113:13
ubottugiampi61: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:13
RiseOfDeathdr_willis, i install ubuntu 12.04, but then i log in i see just empty desctop, without unity13:14
dr_willisRiseOfDeath:  and yoru video card is what? what driver are you using?  has it ever worked..13:14
RiseOfDeathdr_willis:  unity instaled and work (i lounch it with command sudo unity) (without sudo unity don't work)13:14
Xmikelhow can i create a new user interface for ubuntu from a kernel version 2.6513:15
Xmikel?13:15
dr_willisRiseOfDeath:  Dont be running stuff with sudo just to 'try' things  most likely you have confif files in your users home now that are owned by root.13:15
dr_willisRiseOfDeath:  try making a NEW user 'sudo adduser billgates' and see if unity works for the newly made user.13:15
RiseOfDeathone moment....13:15
RiseOfDeathdr_willis:  at another user all work right.13:18
dr_willisso you have just shown its one of your problem users settings or config files that is the issue.13:18
RiseOfDeathdr_willis: yes. thank you13:18
dr_willisso using the console, check out their files.  a common issue is the ownership of the .Xauthority file13:18
diligentdinoDoes smb need to be installed on the system trying to access the shares?13:20
OldMonkcan someone please help me with Ida-Pro-Free installation on my BackTrack 5 R213:20
dr_willisdiligentdino:   I dont think the samba server does.. but i always install it anyway. i rarely just do one way access13:20
lotuspsychjeOldMonk: join #backtrack-linux13:20
dr_willisOldMonk:  see the backtrack channels13:20
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OldMonklotuspsychje; dr_willis: thanks for your kind suggestion.13:21
* dr_willis has no idea what Ida-pro even is...13:22
* lotuspsychje runs away fast with his hacking dictionary13:22
ZoiaGuyverits a debugger/disasembler13:22
Xubuntucatso, anyone else run xubuntu?13:23
Adiesomeone does13:23
dr_willislots of people use xubuntu/xfce13:23
cfhowlettXubuntucat: yeah, SomeOne does13:23
Xubuntucatcool13:23
ZoiaGuyverNot me , i hate Xfce..13:23
cfhowlett!anyone|Xubuntucat:13:23
ubottuXubuntucat:: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:23
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guest1113:26
Xubuntucatthe reason why i use xfce is beacause i have a netbook, xubuntu/xfce is very lightweight... :D perfect match:313:27
guest1teach me English, please13:27
cfhowlettguest1: wrong channel13:28
Xubuntucatuse wikipedia, it is full o' facts13:28
guest1:)13:28
Xubuntucatcrap, i thought i was on the love2d channel13:28
Sidewinder1guest1, Or perhaps #english or ##english..13:29
Xubuntucatsometimes, after i've been on my cmoputer for too long, i forget wether or not its my stomache grumbling, or my cat drowning13:30
guest1there are little people in EnglishLearning channels, so ...13:30
dr_willisI doubt if you are going to learn english very well from an IRC channel... time to take a class13:30
ZoiaGuyverWas about to say..13:31
Sidewinder1You mean 'few', not little, but I know what you mean..13:31
cfhowlettguest1: http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/theclassroom/home/13:31
guest1let me see...13:31
ZoiaGuyverSince when has IRC been good for english, it's mostly "txt" talk13:31
Calthropstuare you guys crazy? With all the grammar nazis out there, irc is the perfect place to learn english isnt it?13:31
Sidewinder1^ guest1 ^ please see that link..13:31
ZoiaGuyverWell if you put it like that Calthropstu, I guess your right.13:33
cfhowlett*your* *you're*13:33
cfhowlett:-13:33
diligentdinoexample A13:34
ZoiaGuyverWe have one already!13:34
* cfhowlett Hey I actually AM an English Teacher. Don't tell anyone.13:34
ZoiaGuyverI feel sorry for you already cfhowlett.13:34
jpmh"actually AM" - really13:35
cfhowlettZoiaGuyver: ... in Beijing.13:35
diligentdinocfhowlett, It takes all kinds. :)13:35
dr_willisengrish.com ;)13:35
* cfhowlett OK, enough OT. Ubuntu anyone?13:35
julien__il ni a pas de belge ?13:35
* cfhowlett Belgian?13:36
* ratcheer had a Belgian ale a couple of weeks ago. Yummy!13:36
lotuspsychjejulien__:join #ubuntu-be13:38
cfhowlett!be|/me13:38
lotuspsychjeshutdown time13:40
usuarioBuenas, ¿algún support o alguien que pueda serme de ayuda?13:44
cfhowlett!es|usuario:13:44
ubottuusuario:: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:44
maggie_parisHello all! I have a wifi problem with my Dell Inspiron 6400, which is on Ubuntu 12.04. It can connect to our wifi network, but the connection is very slow and sometimes it disconnects itself automatically. Can anyone help me please?13:49
pillarsdotnetHow can I make an amd64 package specifically depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?13:51
anti-freezemaggie_paris, this might sound stupid, are you sure you have the drivers installed first off?13:51
dr_willisdetermining the exact wireless chipset and what driver its using is also a good first step13:52
dr_willis!wireless13:52
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:52
rigosorry for the noob question, but is there a way to find out the difference between the (xbmc)buntu and openelec ir drivers and remote handels?13:52
cfhowlettdr_willis: braodcom iinm13:52
rigocause oe handels the asus remote and ir, but xbmcbuntu doesnt.13:52
maggie_paris@anti-freeze I use the driver which was included in the Ubuntu install, and the Additional Drivers section of the System Settings does not show anything13:52
dr_willisrigo:  both are apps on top of the core of the linux OS.  so they could be identical or very different depending on what they are running on top of.13:52
aidanjtmaggie_paris: did you have the same problem with Ubuntu 10.04?  The drivers for that Intel WiFi card is pretty reliable13:52
maggie_paristhe chipset is intel 3945abg13:53
dr_willisrigo:  so id have to say check the openelec pages to see what kernel they are using for starters13:53
maggie_parisI had Windows XP and then Ubuntu 8.04 and then 12.0413:53
rigoand if i find out? is there a way to make the ir+remote work under xbmcbuntu?13:53
sleepgoneHello everyone13:54
cfhowlettsleepgone: greetings13:54
dr_willisrigo:  theres dozens of packages and tools for remotes under ubuntu rigo . so most likely yes.13:54
dr_willisI got a remote that emulates a keyboard. :) no drivers needed...13:54
dr_williscost me a big $8 on amazon.13:54
sleepgonehaving a problem with the Unbutu 12 live cd booting. need help13:55
aidanjtmaggie_paris: I have the same Intel wireless card and it's been very solid and painless for me, I bought it for that very reason.. all I could suggest is hardware problems?13:55
rigogreat! in fact i have a mce ir but i would like to use the asus ir. (with harmony 650)13:55
DrChaosHello. How do I do the apt on cd thing with a USB flash drive?13:55
dr_willissleepgone:  details would help.13:55
dr_willisDrChaos:  you could copy the .iso file it makes to the usb, then mount the iso file on the other box. Ive see that  work for update media.13:56
maggie_parisaidanjt Maybe, but can't it be a driver problem?13:56
lotuspsychjedr_willis: 2nd cold boot dint corrupt the mose this time, ill let you know tomorrow13:56
dr_willismaggie_paris:  you upgraded all teh systems?13:56
sleepgonecreated the "live" thing on USB. system does boot, but into a terminal window with "initramfs" as the prompt. can't seem to get out of this to install.13:57
dr_willismaggie_paris:  or are these a clean install >13:57
maggie_parisdr_willis I just installed the system and then done the updates13:57
maggie_parisit's a clean install13:57
aidanjtmaggie_paris: I wouldn't say it's impossible to be a driver problem, but doesn't seem likely, 2 identical models should behave the same with the same driver13:57
dr_willissleepgone:  you did check the md5sum of the iso file?  could be it was a bad download.13:57
maggie_parisaidanjt did you clean install ubuntu over windows xp?13:58
soliloquy1Hi. The wifi on my Macbook air running 12.04 has just stopped working.  It tries to connect for a long time, connects, but then cannot load pages, etc. The wifi network was working fine and is still working fine on my mac.13:58
aidanjtmaggie_paris: yeah I've only run Linux on mine for years13:59
sleepgonedon't know how to check the file. what should it be?13:59
cfhowlett!md5sum|sleepgone:13:59
ubottusleepgone:: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows13:59
sleepgonealso, I've downloaded the same file twice from the Ubuntu website.14:00
dr_willisdid you CHE$DK the md5sum however?14:00
maggie_parisok, thank you all :) I think it's a hardware problem, I'll change the network card. Bye!14:00
dr_willis!md514:00
DrChaosdr_willis: what are the dependencies for like e.g. build-essential? I see no way to get apt-on-cd on MS Windows14:00
aidanjtmaggie_paris: good luck14:00
cfhowlettsleepgone: takes 60 seconds to check and verify...and bad downloads can and do happen even from the ubuntu site.  don't be lazy.14:00
dr_willisDrChaos:  no idea. I rarely need apt-on-cd14:00
DrChaosI just want gcc14:00
maggie_parisaidanjt: thanks, i'll need it :)14:00
DrChaosoh, and fluxbox14:01
DrChaosplus roxterm14:01
DrChaosand that will be it14:01
sleepgonereading "howto" brb14:01
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dr_willisjust 'gcc' is a little useless unless you are doing very very simple compiling. ;014:01
MartijnHI followed the guide at http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/07/10/how-to-setup-ipv6-on-ubuntu-12-04-with-tunnelbroker but I don't seem to have Ipv6 connectivity yet. Could someone help me out with what I'm doing wrong?14:02
dr_willisi tend to just install sytuff on a connected box. then copy over the /var/cache/apt/ debs14:02
DrChaosyes, I would be. I might want Java especially, I want to program basic computer programs as I would love to become an expert computer programmer one day14:02
DrChaos...maybe even a quantum physicist working with quantum computers14:02
rockeraa14:02
rockerhello14:03
rockeri;ve problem14:03
dr_willisyou MOST likely want the 'build-esentials' package and all the dev stuff it pulls in for C14:03
lotuspsychje!ask | rocker14:03
ubotturocker: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:03
soliloquy1I have a broadcom 43xx wificard that isn't working14:03
ratcheerMartijnH: Are you setting it up on your Ubuntu host or on your router?14:03
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: I can help.14:03
lotuspsychjesoliloguy1:did you install the driver?14:03
MartijnHratcheer, my ubuntu workstation which is in a NAT14:03
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: did it EVER work?  and what method did you use to install the driver?14:03
soliloquy1cfhowlett: It did till 2 days ago. The driver came installed out of the box w/ ubuntu.14:04
diligentdinoI can smbclient to my smb but I can't see it in nautilus?14:04
MartijnHmy out-of-the-box consumer grade modem-with-integrated-router claims to be able to do ipv614:04
rockeri want install xubuntu-desktop, but it requito nvidia-common, ive ATI Radeon HD 4000.14:04
BluesKajthe b43 is a kernel module , sudo modprobe b43 should do the trick14:04
rockeri havent nv14:04
ratcheerMartijnH: I did that a long time ago. It works better on the router. What tunnel broker are you trying to set up?14:04
johnbeeDoes anyone know why /etc/network/interfaces does not show eth'x' adaptors in xubuntu ?14:04
MartijnHratcheer, HE14:04
dr_willisdiligentdino:  try entering its address directly with the ip# instead of its hostname. ie:  smb://192.168.1.100/sharename14:05
soliloquy1cfhowlett: Now it tries to connect for a long time, says its connected but then doesn't load pages14:05
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: try soliloquy1 NO pages anywhere or just some pages?14:05
dr_willis!info nvidia-common14:05
ubottunvidia-common (source: nvidia-common): Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.2.44 (precise), package size 18 kB, installed size 138 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armel; armhf)14:05
BertoHi - Anyone know how to get a number pad working?  This is a logitech keyboard...14:05
soliloquy1lotuspsychje: the wifi worked out of the box w/ whatever driver it came with until 2 days ago, where it just stopped working.14:05
MartijnHratcheer, my router is built in with my cable modem, and there is no way I can throw some reasonable firmware on there while keeping modem functionality14:05
dr_willisnvidia-common will not hurt your ati system14:05
soliloquy1cfhowlett: no pages, anywhere14:05
lotuspsychjesoliloguy1: whats the wifi security wep or wpa?14:06
ratcheerMartijnH: Ok, that's what I use. The instructions on he.net are very good.14:06
BertoRight now my mouse moves when i enter the numpad keys14:06
soliloquy1lotuspsychje: none14:06
lotuspsychjeok14:06
soliloquy1we live in the middle of nowhere and don't need it14:06
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: ping www.google.com and 8.8.8.814:06
aidanjtMartijnH: IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnelling systems like tunnelbroker is meant to serve as a work around for people stuck with IPv4 so the router and your ISP shouldn't need to support IPv6 for it to work14:06
soliloquy1alright - I'll have to go reboot into ubuntu, so give me a minute14:06
dr_willisBerto:  I recall some  mode/feature to enable the keyboard/mouse on the numpad.. but not sure how you would accidently enable that.14:06
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/8664/how-to-get-numpad-out-of-mouse-emulation-mode14:07
dr_willisOr you can press SHIFT+NUMLOCK14:07
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: if no response, suspect dns settings.  Sorry, but while I know how to install the broadcom drivers, I know nothing of DNS.14:07
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: those broadcom drivers are indeed always a prob, i remember one time adding the driver from cdrom to make it properly work14:07
ratcheeraidanjt: The router has to at least pass the packets. But, he says he has an IPv6 compatible router, so that shouldn't be a problem.14:07
Bertothanks dr_willis - I had "mouse keys" on.  Disabled it, now nothing.14:08
BertoHEY! shift numlock got it!  Thanks dr_willis !!14:08
cfhowlettlotuspsychje: of late, I use the "no internet access" method and just extract directly the iso, do a little modprobe and voila!14:08
dr_willisust a heads-up, in Ubuntu 12.04 (Unity) this "feature" can be enabled and disabled in the Universal Access dialogue under the Pointing and Clicking tab.14:08
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: nice trick ill keep in mind14:08
MartijnHratcheer, the setup that is provided on HE's site isn't working14:09
Bertodr_willis THANKS !!!  combination of Mouse Keys + Shift Numlock.  That was WAY too hard for a veteran user.  That option should be a lot easier to set :)  I owe you a beer14:09
cfhowlettlotuspsychje: beats the heck out of compiling from the broadcom download14:09
MartijnHI'm not sure if I need linux-net-tools or linux-route2, but neither work14:09
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: many users wont like compiling first time they install ubuntu lol14:09
MartijnHthe command ip tunnel add he-ipv6 mode sit remote 216.66.84.46 local 62.194.104.217 ttl 255 fails with add tunnel sit0 failed: No such device14:10
ratcheerMartijnH: I would have to reboot to go see if I still have any of my old info. Are you going to be here a while?14:10
MartijnHratcheer, I can idle14:10
ratcheerMartijnH: Ok, I'll be back in a few minutes.14:11
lotuspsychjedr_willis: can colortail -f log simultane logs in realtime?14:12
dr_willislotuspsychje:  colortail colorizes in real time..14:12
lotuspsychjedr_willis: but can it display multiple logs same time?14:12
soliloquy1cfhowlett: the broadcom STA driver's enabled, unknown host for google, 8.8.8.8 got destination unreachable14:12
lotuspsychjesoliloguy1:rebooted?14:13
dr_willislotuspsychje:  check its docs.. Ive only used it rarely. and often differnt log files. you want differnt colorizeing rules i recall.14:13
sleepgoneok, checked md5...doesn't match. Is this something that can be changed manually or is it due to bad download?14:13
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: then you're not connected.  Try rebooting and also reinitialize the router if connected.14:13
lotuspsychjedr_willis:no i would like to log syslog and other logs same time, so i got as many warnings in same terminal14:14
soliloquy1cfhowlett: I've done both over and over and over. it says I'm connected, but I'm clearly not. It can see the wifi network, though.14:14
dr_willislotuspsychje:  the formating of the differnt logs ive used int he past.. mean i want differnt rules for each log file.  ive not used color tail in perhaps 2 years.14:14
lotuspsychjeok14:14
aidanjtMartijnH: this might point you in the right direction: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Tunneled_IPv614:15
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: DNS > over my head.  Stay in channel and ask patiently.14:15
MartijnHcheers aidanjt14:15
soliloquy1ooh - it's DNS? then I know where this is from14:15
soliloquy1my dad's a networking guy and must have done something funky14:15
soliloquy1and for some reason it isn't jelling nicely with my laptop even though everything else is fine14:15
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: oh, that's nice.  Blame the father!  :)14:16
Nullablehi14:16
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: but yeah, ask Dad about it.  Good luck.14:16
cfhowlettNullable: greetings14:16
soliloquy1nah, he's great :) - we have *incredibly* fast internet as a result. The downside however is that it breaks about once a year or so14:16
ratcheerMartijnH: Ok, I'm back. It's unbelievable, but I do still have those old commands.14:17
soliloquy1anyway, thanks for the help14:17
cfhowlettsoliloquy1: best of luck.14:17
MartijnHratcheer, great :D14:18
lotuspsychjeu gotta love opensource support :p14:18
MartijnHratcheer, I'm currently checking the guide at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Tunneled_IPv6 which aidanjt found for me14:18
cfhowlettlotuspsychje: as Dear Old Departed Dad used to say, "It's free advice and worth every penny!"14:18
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: nice1 mate14:19
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: i guess when ubuntu server troubles get solved here, it defenatly worth many pennys lol14:20
zukirephey all if I have all my devices (/dev/sda1 etc.) under linux when one of them is supposed to be windows this is a problem right?14:20
cfhowlettlotuspsychje: yep.14:20
lotuspsychje!nfts | zukirep14:20
ubottuzukirep: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE14:20
lotuspsychjezukirep: look in /media14:20
tanzbaerhey i*m looking for support to get a wireless network adapter running on ubuntu 12.04. you know where i can get some advice?14:21
cfhowlettzukirep: problem?  not necessarily.14:21
zukirepkk14:21
cfhowletttanzbaer: details?14:21
Pezz_12@Pezz_1214:21
tanzbaeri have an adapter: atheros AR5007UG14:21
cfhowletttanzbaer: ow.  I can't help - Broadcom only experience.14:22
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cefege123how can I email more people on gmail, without them seeing the other people I mailed?14:23
lotuspsychjecefegel123:thats not really an ubuntu question, but choose BCC to send the mails14:24
cfhowlettcefege123: BCC:  in the TO: box, send to yourself.  Put all other addresses in BCC14:24
cfhowlettcefege123: BCC = Blind Carbon Copy14:24
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lotuspsychjetanzbaer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198300314:25
zukireplotuspsychje, I checked in gparted and noticed that the windows partition is already mounted under /media/Acer (Acer is the computer I have)14:25
tanzbaerthank you14:25
sleepgonedr_willis: I've checked the md5...don't match. could the difference be due to interrupted downloads because of slow internet connection or can this be something that can be manually fixed? is there a work-around?14:26
lotuspsychjezukirep:cool but to automount this drive at your ubuntu boot, install ntfs-3g14:26
eddibleHi There14:26
zukireplotuspsychje do I access that through the nts-config program?14:27
lotuspsychjezukirep: yes14:27
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cfhowletteddible: greetings14:27
zukireplotuspsychje I messed around the ntfs-config yesterday and now it doesnt go to the start of the program, it goes straight to NTFS write support configuration tool14:28
eddiblerecently returned to Ubuntu, after a lengthy absence....in which I've relapsed into a linux virgin14:28
eddibleInstalled 12.04 on my cheap netbook....having issues ge3tting it to find the 945gse graphics and touchpad....help?14:28
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lotuspsychje!info ntfs-3g | zukirep14:28
ubottuzukirep: ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read/write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:2012.1.15AR.1-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 609 kB, installed size 1497 kB14:28
cfhowletteddible: yep.  cheap netbook needs lubuntu or xubuntu.14:28
cfhowletteddible: both are meant for lower spec/older machines.  ubuntu is NOT...14:29
eddibleFEck. Download and reinstall?14:29
lotuspsychjeeddible:what system specs u got on the netbook?14:29
zukireplotuspsychje, does that mean I choose the enable write support for internal device?14:29
lotuspsychjezukirep: yes that will add automount the drive at boot14:29
root3ud1hayy14:30
amellenicoCiao a tutti14:30
eddibleAtom 210 (1.6gHz), 1Gb ram.....Intel 945GSE Chipset....heavy duty :p14:30
lotuspsychje!it | amellenico14:30
ubottuamellenico: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:30
cfhowletteddible: fraid so.  I'm on ubuntustudio, so had to switch to xubuntu/XFCE as the platform.  Not bad.  Lubuntu/LXDE is nice too.14:30
cfhowlettroot3ud1: greetings14:30
aidanjtcfhowlett: meh, my laptop's 945 chipset works ok, not awesomely fluid, but still works alright14:30
amellenicoqualcuna parla italiano?14:30
lotuspsychjeenglish14:30
pepperjackeddible: it's amusing that someone would say the new ubuntu gui is unsuited a netbook.. I would google a bit to get confirmation of someone running a specific distro with your netbook model.14:30
Guest49288ciao14:30
Guest49288io parlo italiano14:31
lotuspsychje!it | Guest4928814:31
ubottuGuest49288: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:31
cfhowletteddible: atom?  xubuntu or lubuntu.  try em both, choose a flavor.14:31
Guest49288ok14:31
bollyWhat do you guys do on here? :)14:31
eddible@ cfhowlett.....thanks plenty!!!! Back in a bit......after a re-install14:31
cfhowletteddible: be safe, have fun.14:31
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: i run precise 64bit on netbook, works flawless with compiz and unity14:32
lotuspsychjebolly: support ubuntu problems14:32
fusion271somehow hosed my Ubuntu 10.04 install on a nettop PC, boots right now to a stripped down shell (ash).  Loaded the latest .iso on to a usb drive, in bios pointed the system to boot from removable device, but isn't booting off of USB drive, any ideas?14:32
cfhowlettlotuspsychje: I understand it can be done, my point was the xubuntu and lubuntu are DESIGNED for low spec/older machines e.g. atom14:32
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: it will indeed run faster for sure14:32
Testessociao14:33
Testesso!list14:33
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lotuspsychje!it | Testesso14:33
ubottuTestesso: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:33
bollylotuspsychje: Okkk14:33
lotuspsychjebolly: so if you have an ubuntu problem go ahead and ask14:33
mhahehey guys im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 along side windows 7. my laptop has 2 HDDs from what i read it has a sata raid controller and since im no expert linux user im guessing thats why the drive names when trying to set up partitions /dev/mapper/ instead of the usual /dev/sda or /dev/sdb.. but the installation keeps failing on installing grub 214:34
mhaheany thoughts?14:34
bollylotuspsychje: Ok,I don't even know the meaning of ubuntu,I'm new on here14:34
lotuspsychje!ubuntu | bolly14:34
ubottubolly: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com14:34
lotuspsychje!raid | mhahe14:35
ubottumhahe: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:35
bollyubottu: I think I get it now,thanks14:36
ubottubolly: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:36
aidanjtfusion271: try using dd to write the iso over the usb stick like: `dd if=ubuntu-blah-12.04.1.iso of=/dev/sdX` where X is the device node14:36
diligentdinoIf smb was a physical object. I would have tossed it across the room by now :/14:36
dr_willismhahe:  id just not use the raid, and use the system with 1 hd for windows and one for linux14:36
fusion271aidanjt: trying to find the device but fdisk isn't present in ash14:37
zukirepanyone know why I keep ending up on the recovery menu when I boot?14:37
aidanjtfusion271: dmesg | tail should show it after pluging it in14:37
bollyubottu: lol,ok :)14:37
sleepgoneHello again.14:37
cfhowlettsleepgone: greetings14:38
fusion271no dmesg either :( aidanjt14:38
DarkenvyHello, problem: Fresh clean install of 12.04, having video stutter and skipping. Music stutters also but youtube videos go into 8x speedups14:38
lotuspsychjezukirep: you mean grub always load at boot?14:38
diligentdinodoesn't smb write specific connection logs. I can connect to the share with nautilus I just can't get into it.14:38
aidanjtfusion271: bugger lol.. umm, I guess you can do an ls /dev/sd* before and after insertion14:38
zukirepwell on top of the menu it says system recovery menu14:38
dr_willisdiligentdino:  give example of what you mean.14:38
zukireplotuspsychje, there is a grub option i think or it might have been grub update14:38
dr_willisdiligentdino:  there are samba clients other then nautilus also.. nautiluas has been flakey for me in the past with connecting to shares14:39
lotuspsychjezukirep: is it grub or some recovery menu of your machine?14:39
zukireplotuspsychje, I mean it has resume normal boot, clean dpkg, fsck, root14:39
bollybye all!14:40
zukireplotuspsychje, not sure but it looks similar to other peoples recovery menu when I google it under ubuntu14:40
diligentdinodr_willis, I can smb://ip/folder and get the login prompt. I just can't get past that, I'm not sure what the issue is. I can smbclient with both Ids I have setup for the share. I just can't connect into it.14:40
NullableI'm trying to install 12.04 minimal server on a XenServer 5.6 server, but once I choose any option in the "ubuntu CD boot menu" the "screen" resizes a few times and then it just turns black14:40
DarkenvyI will be here all day so dont be afraid to help, PM or shout my name :)14:40
fusion271taking a look aidanjt14:40
bollylotuspsychje: Thanks14:40
dr_willisdiligentdino:  this is connecting to a windows machine or a linux one?14:40
lotuspsychjebolly:np mate14:40
diligentdinodr_jesus, linux14:40
diligentdinodr_willis, linux, no windows in my network14:41
sleepgoneAs per suggestions, I've checked md5 checksums. They don't match. Is this something that can be manually changed? is there a work-around? is this due to bad internet connection type of download disrupts?14:41
dr_willisdiligentdino:  for the user on the server you are connecting as.. you did give them a samba password  via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?14:41
dr_willisOn the server..14:41
zukireplotuspsychje, it looks like this: http://ubuntugenius.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/recovery-mode.png%3Fw%3D500%26h%3D27814:41
cfhowlettsleepgone: download again.  no workaround.  scrambled iso is scrambled.14:41
aidanjtsleepgone: try using wget -c http://web.url.of/file14:41
zukireplotuspsychje, well slightly different i think but pretty similar14:42
lotuspsychjezukirep: you got this one time or every boot automaticly?14:42
dr_willisdiligentdino:  no windows machines at all.. then why use samba? scp/sshfs would be easier to setup.14:42
aidanjtsleepgone: I find wget far more reliable14:42
diligentdinodr_willis, I used gadmin-samba to build the conf and samba's gui client for the users and shares.14:42
cfhowlettsleepgone: consider using the torrent option rather than direct download.14:42
lotuspsychjezukirep: thats ubuntu recover screen yes14:42
zukireplotuspsychje, every boot automatically14:42
aidanjtcfhowlett: or that14:42
diligentdinodr_willis, unfortunatly i need smb for visitors14:42
fusion271aidanjt: got sdc1, sdc, sdb, sda5, sda2, sda1, sda14:42
dr_willisdiligentdino:  try setting the users smbpassword  is all about all i can say.14:42
lotuspsychjezukirep: thats not very normal indeed, not sure what happens mate..did you messed with grub file?14:43
aidanjtfusion271: what changes between ls'ing before and after?.. I'm guessing it's sdc, but best to be sure14:43
zukireplotuspsychje, it started last night when I tried using the ntfs config and messed with the grub file14:43
dr_willisI only use the most basic of samba setupt. i never use any of the admin/guiadmin tools for samba.14:43
lotuspsychjezukirep:lol, pastebin grub in channel plz14:43
zukireplotuspsychje, all I did in the grub file was add 1 second so that I had time to press shift on boot14:43
sleepgoneOk. thanks to all that've helped. have a great day and GOD bless.14:43
cfhowlettsleepgone: best of lucck14:43
dr_willisYou an enable verbose logging for the samba server to see why/who is connecting and why they are getting refued.14:43
dr_willisrefused.14:43
lotuspsychjezukirep: i think you accidentaly choosed ubuntu recovery as default first boot in grub...14:44
fusion271aidanjt: I'm sorry I don't understand the question14:44
fusion271aidanjt:  should I just mount all of them and see what's in them?14:44
zukireplotuspsychje, should it say GRUB_DEFAULT=114:44
zukirepGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=014:44
diligentdinodr_willis, is that a setting in the config? .I not sure which log samba is writing the connections into14:44
lotuspsychje!grub2 > lotuspsychje14:44
ubottulotuspsychje, please see my private message14:44
aidanjtfusion271: if you do an ls /dev/sd* before inserting the USB stick you should get less nodes than ls /dev/sd* after you plug it in, the new node which shows up in /dev should be the USB stick14:44
dr_willisdiligentdino:  all its logs are in /var/log/samba/14:45
fusion271aidanjt: ahh I see what you're saying ...checking14:45
aidanjt:)14:45
fusion271sdc & sdc114:45
aidanjtyeah though so14:45
dr_willisfrom smb.conf14:45
dr_willis We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog. Everything14:45
dr_willis# should go to /var/log/samba/log.{smbd,nmbd} instead. If you want to log14:45
aidanjtso you should be able to dd the iso over that14:45
lotuspsychjezukirep: insert your ubuntu boot cd, and choose boot repair14:45
diligentdinohmm ill check ty14:46
fusion271so mount the two of those aidanjt?14:46
lotuspsychjezukirep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub14:46
zukireplotuspsychje, tried to boot with the ubuntu cd earlier, still goes straight to the recovery menu14:46
dr_willisdiligentdino:  about all i ever do is install samba, edit the smb.conf to enable the HOME shares. and give all my users smbpasswords via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'14:46
aidanjtfusion271: no need, you can write the image directly to the stick and it'll set up the boot sector and partitions14:46
lotuspsychjezukirep: you need to set cdrom as first boot in bios, then it will load14:46
zukireplotuspsychje, oo okay, how exactly do I do that?14:47
fusion271aidanjt: does the presence of 2 entries (sdc & sdc1) mean there are 2 partitions on the stick?14:47
lotuspsychjezukirep: reboot and press DEL or F2 then choose boot order, and set Dcrom as first14:47
NullableProblem: I'm trying to install 12.04 minimal server on a XenServer 5.6 server, but once I choose any option in the "ubuntu CD boot menu" the "screen" resizes a few times and then it just turns black14:47
aidanjtfusion271: /dev/sdc is the device node, and /dev/sdc1 is the primary partition14:47
aidanjtso dd of=/dev/sdc14:47
zukireplotuspsychje, ok will do, thanks14:47
fusion271ok the image, according to my mac book is already on the stick14:48
fusion271the image, that it, is already on the stick14:48
mithranhai all am facing a problem that i cant update my ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179806/14:48
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TechnodicT_ Lotusphychje...the Sd card reader was indeed the problem...14:48
lotuspsychjeTechnodicT_:was it completly broken?14:49
Troy^ok how come it is like my screen didn't full unfade from black.. my screen is so dark and hard to see?14:49
TechnodicT_I guess...I replaced it with a I ball brand reader and it worked like magic...!14:49
cfhowlettTechnodicT_: magic!14:50
lotuspsychjelol14:50
TechnodicT_Haha.!14:50
acerhi all ! I try to setup dovecot and I get connection was refused14:50
lotuspsychjewelcome to ubuntu, this is where the magix happens!14:50
aidanjtfusion271: yeah best use dd in case whatever usb boot programme you used messed up.. I had a problem even with the ubuntu usb creator and an old fedora install I had on a USB stick, and I just dd'ed the ubuntu image over and it worked perfectly14:50
aldo_Magix ;)14:51
acerwhich log should I look into ?14:51
lotuspsychjelol14:51
lotuspsychjeacer: dpkg log?14:51
TechnodicT_Yea indeed 3 years of using ubuntu was indeed pleasing...!!14:51
mithranhelp me please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179806/14:51
aldo_has anybody been successful at using a iPhone 4s on Ubuntu?14:52
BluesKajmithran, close compiz and try again14:52
diligentdinodr_willis, any other suggestions? none of the logs are even updating14:52
TechnodicT_I phone on ubuntu?14:52
lotuspsychjealdo_:you meaning the file transfering part?14:52
aldo_lotuspsychje: yea, sorry.14:53
lotuspsychjealdo_:you need to install stuff...if i remember some lib...14:53
mithranBluesKaj: i have not installed the copiz14:53
cfhowlettTechnodicT_: not THAT much magic (yet)14:53
aldo_lotuspsychje: is there a wiki on it?14:53
fusion271aidanjt:  thanks for your help, I gotta get going to work, gonna note our conversation and try and get back on it later14:54
cfhowlettaldo_: file transfers maybe not synch14:54
aldo_:*(14:54
lotuspsychjealso_:search for libimobiledevice or something14:54
cfhowlettaldo_: on my ipod, I can see the various folders and manually copy files but no synch14:54
lotuspsychjecfhowlett:by default?14:55
aldo_cfhowlett: so you were able to transfer your mp3s? and play them?14:55
cfhowlettaldo_: no, I could see the folder with pics and downloads.  Had to manually transfer them14:55
root3ud1% telnet irc.freenode.net 666714:56
BluesKajmithran, in the terminal , sudo dpkg --configure -a , the try updating again14:56
acerlotuspsychje dpkg log ?14:56
aldo_aw shoot14:56
acernever used it14:56
diligentdinoHaving smb password issues. I can see the shares in every way possible. It just won't accept my password for any of the users when I try to browse to the share14:56
lotuspsychjeacer: check /var/log14:56
cfhowlettlotuspsychje aldo| thus far, so far as I know, no one has cracked IOS to any meaningful level- and probably won't as it's changed so significantly and frequently14:56
mithranBluesKaj: ok14:57
lotuspsychje!info libimobiledevice14:57
ubottuPackage libimobiledevice does not exist in precise14:57
aldo_the only way I know is to jailbreak then ssh into it14:57
lotuspsychjelets keep ubuntu ontopic14:57
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: i mean could you browse files by default, not install iphone package or some?14:57
aldo_Ubuntu is awesome :)14:58
cfhowlettaldo_: agree with lotuspsych.  let's continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic14:58
aldo_Ok14:58
cfhowlettlotuspsychje: correct and offtopic14:58
lotuspsychjekk14:58
acerdovecot-info.log seemd to say no auth attempts14:58
lotuspsychjeacer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot14:59
cfhowlettIt's been real y'all, but I've gotta work in the morning.  Over and out.14:59
lotuspsychjecfhowlett:cheers mate and tnx for support14:59
histodiligentdino: is this windows to linux share or are you browsing linux to linux ?15:01
diligentdinohisto, it's linux to linux right now.15:02
lordnikonhi all15:04
XeronetmotaHey15:04
histodiligentdino: why not use NFS but either way check this guid out https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html15:05
etteyafedIf I have installed Ubuntu (several months ago) with an encrypted home then changed my password and forgot it because I haven't logged in for a few weeks is there ANY way to recover any data? I assume the answer is "no, not really."15:06
paaaawerrrhello15:06
diligentdinohisto, Only reason I don't use something else is for visitors. Need them to be able to take advantage of the shares. Thanks for the link I'll look at it.15:06
paaaawerrri want to install xubuntu-desktop15:06
paaaawerrrI've problem,i want to install xubuntu-desktop, but it require nvidia-common :( how to repair that?15:07
histodiligentdino: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileprint-security.html  here is a complete description of the security settings15:08
histopaaaawerrr: xubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that installs a bunch of other packages. If you want you can just install xfce15:09
paaaawerrrhisto , no, XFCE4 is bad, Xubuntu is Better15:09
paaaawerrrVolume splash working on Xubuntu, on XFCE not ... -.-015:10
theadminpaaaawerrr: Sure, because xfce4-mixer is not really a part of "xfce4" when you install it like that. Add that and it'll work.15:10
paaaawerrrso anyone know how to install xubuntu-desktop without nvidia-current?15:11
giampi61hello15:11
paaaawerrrnv-common*15:11
tech1whats that command which checks and installls any dependencies you need for installed packages?15:11
paaaawerrri has bedore NV 980015:11
paaaawerrrbut this card yesterday stop working , and im now using inrtegrated card ( ATI 4200 HD)15:12
histopaaaawerrr: You would have to install the packages individually15:12
paaaawerrrim removed nv drivers but (by purge)15:12
paaaawerrrand im install ATI drivers15:12
giampi61I have a problem: every now and then I get the message: The disk drive for / media / data is not ready yet or not present. Wait or press S to skip mount or M for manual recovery: why? you can solve the problem? With the other sets of ubuntu, never had problem, only with the new version of ubuntu 12.04 . If you turn on the PC 10 times,,,, 6 times the word appears (the hard data does not exist), 4 times correctly enters this disc.15:13
paaaawerrrbut  now no working h264 and mencoder , and all 3D Linux games -.-15:13
paaaawerrrand i cannot install Xubuntu -.-15:13
paaaawerrrbecvuase require nv packge...i have now ATI.. lulz.. maybe format?15:13
k1lgiampi61: is it an usb hdd?15:13
paaaawerrrof  Xubuntu?15:13
paaaawerrrhisto, Formaat help?15:14
theadminpaaaawerrr: "nvidia-common" is not an NVidia driver package.15:14
theadminpaaaawerrr: It's simply a tool to install nvidia drivers, you'll be fine if that's pulled in.15:14
paaaawerrrlol...i print ScreenShot15:14
theadminpaaaawerrr: As for ati drivers, you have to apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle15:14
dr_willissomeone asked about nvidia-common earlier.. :) got the same answer   'dont worry about it'15:14
giampi61<k1l>  no usb   Slave15:15
paaaawerrrdr_willis, theadmin but mencoder requre vudpau ( something like that).... vp is NV! not ATI15:15
k1lgiampi61: its possible, that the hdd is not ready yet, when ubuntu tries to mount it15:15
SpaceBass2hey folks15:15
dr_willisi dont see why an encoder would require vupadu..15:16
k1lgiampi61: i had this problem with an usb hdd, which needed alot time to spin up15:16
theadmindr_willis: From "apt-cache show nvidia-common | grep -i description": Description-en: Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers This package will find obsolete NVIDIA drivers in use,detect the hardware and recommend the most appropriate driver."15:16
SpaceBass2I'm trying to get a backup app running on an 11.04 box? it doesn't err, but it never starts when executed from the CLI. Checked /var/logs/syslog and don't see anything. How can I troubleshoot?15:16
etteyafedHi everyone. I am preparing to install the new 12.04.1 LTS release on my laptop (replacing an older Ubuntu install) and I have a couple of quick questions about prefered cpu architecture. Anyone up for it? Really should be fairly straight forward for anyone that has been using ubuntu regularly lately.15:16
dr_willisSpaceBass2:  and how are you trying to automate it?15:17
mithranBluesKaj: what is the purpose of the command   sudo dpkg --configure -a15:17
theadminetteyafed: Basically, if your processor can deal with it, use 64-bit.15:17
SpaceBass2dr_willis, not trying to automate it at all?. just trying to get it to launch15:17
giampi61k1l,   but not mounts never15:17
dr_willisSpaceBass2:  launch it how?15:17
etteyafedtheadmin: Having not installed a new version of Ubuntu in a year or so (a little more actually) I am not up to date on the state of current linux drivers. Since I don't really need 64 bit memory addressing (3gb ram) on my laptop I usually go for the 32 bit install since driver compatibility is generally more reliable there. There are however sometimes cases when 64 bit is better/required for some kernel modules.15:18
etteyafed So for a new install of 12.04.1 LTS should I still go with the 32 bit or would 64 bit be better now?15:18
contervis!list15:18
ubottucontervis: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:18
SpaceBass2dr_willis, it's an executable? which I think is just a wrapper for a java gui app15:18
k1lgiampi61: you said its not always the problem15:18
SpaceBass2dr_willis, sudo Crashplan15:18
dr_willisetteyafed:  i use 64bit on all hardware that can handle it...15:18
theadminetteyafed: Pretty much all drivers I know work on 64-bit...15:18
dr_willisSpaceBass2:  so whats not working about it?15:18
SpaceBass2etteyafed, I use 64 for new installs, no problems15:18
SpaceBass2dr_willis, it never runs ? gui doesn't appear, it's not in listed in ps or top ? nothing ?. works on other ubuntu server boxen15:19
rsserwhat ubuntu version does it support better wi-fi for notebook?15:19
giampi61k1l,  only with ubuntu 12.04: the other versions no problem, you can fix?15:19
dr_willisSpaceBass2:  no error messages at all? just returns to the command line?15:19
etteyafedMy HW can handle 64 bit and I prefer to use it. Just that in the past I have had a couple of minor issues with 64 bit.15:19
SpaceBass2dr_willis, exactly15:19
mithransudo dpkg --configure -a      what is the impact of this command15:19
SpaceBass2dr_willis, so trying to figure out how to troubleshoot - where to look for errors15:19
k1lgiampi61: i bet its the too slow hdd and ubuntu boots to fast15:20
dr_willisSpaceBass2:  compare the java versions on working and non working machines. and what java is being used.15:20
SpaceBass2dr_willis, ah, good call15:20
rsserI can't make wi-fi of ubuntu works with windows 7 network15:20
mithranBluesKaj: sudo dpkg --configure -a      what is the impact of this command15:20
k1letteyafed: just go with 64bit if your cpu can handle that15:20
BluesKajmithran, that command finishes any pending updates15:20
paaaawerrrtheadmin, http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5171/przechwycenieobrazuekrat.png15:20
etteyafedtheadmin: Thanks. I figured the 64 bit specific bugs had mostly been resolved in the last couple of years but I thought I would check here first rather than dredging around Launchpad for a couple of hours.15:21
k1lrsser: there is no windows7 network.15:21
mithranBluesKaj: Thank u very much15:21
ls612Hi all15:21
dr_willisrsser:  details would be handy.15:21
theadminpaaaawerrr: Again, I tell you, that's FINE. It's NOT an nvidia driver, it's not going to do anything bad. It's a tool to detect old NVidia drivers and replace them with new ones.15:21
mithranBluesKaj: thanks alot15:21
paaaawerrrhmm15:21
theadminetteyafed: Meh, I've been on 64-bit for a few months now, it's fine15:21
rsserk1l, I meant I'm connect ubuntu wi-fi network with windows wi-fi network15:21
theadminpaaaawerrr: Read the package description.15:21
paaaawerrrtheadmin, are u sure?15:21
giampi61k1l, but it is the same hhd I used for the other versions of ubuntu15:21
dr_willistheadmin:  are you really really really really sure? :)  i mean..it mentions nvidia! ;P15:21
rsserBUT they are seems incompatitable15:22
SpaceBass2theadmin, etteyafed yeah, same here, using 64 without issue on desktop (usually in VMs)15:22
ls612I think that I have a rootkit on my W7 system, and I would like to scan the system from a live USB, but my ethernet adapter is not yet compatable with the Linux kernel. Does anyone have any suggestions?15:22
dr_willisls612:  wired or wireless?15:22
rsserI need ubuntu version for better support to wi-fi cards15:22
ls612Both.15:22
theadminrsser: Eh, all official Ubuntu releases have exact same built-in drivers15:22
dr_willisls612:  its a rare wired network card that dosent work on linux.15:22
k1lrsser: does you wifi work?15:22
ls612My comp is literally a month old, it has the Atheros AR8161.15:22
etteyafedpaaawerrr: nvidia-common? its not the kerrnel module. Read the description of the package listed on the ubuntu site if you want to be sure.15:23
ls612I've discussed this before, the kernel doesn't have support for it yet.15:23
k1lrsser: and there is no windows network. describe your problem more specific15:23
rsserokay, K1rk15:23
rsserk1l15:23
dr_willisls612:  try some of the newer releases on the disrtowatch web site.  they may have updated  kernel/drivers.15:23
etteyafedpaaaawerrr: https://launchpad.net/nvidia-common15:23
ls612Not as of the Quantal daily from this Monday.15:23
rsserI have a windows 7 wi-fi network. But the ubuntu can't connect to this network.15:24
dr_willisls612:   its possibel drivers for it are not in  the kernel source code yet.15:24
ls612https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/92778215:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 927782 in linux (Ubuntu) "include the Atheros AR8131/AR8151/AR8152/AR8161/AR8162 Ethernet driver" [Medium,Confirmed]15:24
k1lrsser: is this a router wifi network? or dou you mean you made some folder on a windosw7 machine for public access15:24
ls612I know, and that is my issue, I want to scan for rootkits on my existing W7 system.15:25
paaaawerrrA program to make dist-upgrades easier when the NVIDIA driver is installed, i havent NV drivers installed15:25
dr_willispaaaawerrr:  will you install the silly thing allready and move on.. it wont hurt anything15:25
dr_willispaaaawerrr:  i imagine theres dozens of things installed that you may never need also...15:25
rsserk1l, I want to share the internet between computers15:25
rsserbut ubuntu didn't get into the network15:26
dr_willisrsser:  you meabn an ad-hoc network?15:26
ThinkT510!ics | rsser15:26
ubottursser: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing15:26
paaaawerrridk why but in inregraded card not working 3D Games =(15:26
rsserthe wifi internet is infrastructure15:26
paaaawerrrAMD has wort drivers (linux) that NV/15:27
paaaawerrr??15:27
rsserThinkT510, thanks to you, i am gonna see right now15:27
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ls612Does anyone know how I could add rootkit scanning software to a live USB without having internet access in Ubuntu?15:28
diligentdinols612, I'd wonder if it's possible to partition the thumb drive and put the tools you will need on the other partition?15:29
ls612IDK, that sounds complicated. I should probably find where I put YUMI.15:30
dr_willisls612:  theres live-disrtos like tinycorelinux that you install what you want on the fly/to the cache. and they stay on the flash drive.15:30
diligentdinols612, or maybe you can try trin-rescue15:30
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ls612I don't want to actually install linux, only use it to scan my Windows install for rootkits.15:31
Ion330HTHi everyone, I am having some printer issues for my print share15:31
diligentdinols612, trin-rescue runs off live-cd. you don't install it15:31
ls612Could you give me a link for that please?15:31
diligentdinols612, google for it. or try distrowatch.org15:32
BluesKajls612, having to scan for rootkits on windows with a linux app , should tell you that you need a safer OS :)15:32
Ion330HTI run Ubuntu Nautilus 64bit which acts as the print server for a Samsung SCX-4500 which is connected to the ubuntu computer via usb. I try to use it on a Vista 32bit computer. I can see the printer fine over the network as I have both Samba and Cups running but for some reason when I try to use the printer on vista it complains about missing drives. I install them manually and then vista say15:33
Ion330HTthat it cannot connect to the printer?15:33
Ion330HTany thoughts on how this can be fixed?15:33
giampi61k1l, no solution?15:33
ls612BluesKaj: I've already found them using a windows-based rootkit scanner, I just want to independently confirm that those were the only ones.15:33
pvfdSo i need a little help running this install.sh file. Can anybody help me, please?15:33
BluesKajwell. maybe some windows gurus could hwlp you , you can ask in ##windows chat too , ls61215:34
k1lgiampi61: no. i think its a hardware thing. the hdd starts too slow15:35
pvfdthis is ubuntu 10.0415:35
pkkmIs there a command that would replace non-printable characters with escapes like \r, \b, \001, etc.?15:35
giampi61k1l,    ok thanks15:35
pvfdanybody know how to run install.sh files?15:36
TechnodicT_Pvfd go to terminal15:37
pvfdim there15:37
TechnodicT_Go to the path of install.sh15:37
pvfdcd to it right?15:37
TechnodicT_Yup15:37
TechnodicT_Then type.  ./ install.sh15:39
pvfdso my command should look like this right [cd /home/pvfd/Downloads/RTL8192CU_8188CUS_8188CE-VAU_linux_v3.1.2590.20110922]15:39
TechnodicT_Go to the main folder where the file exist15:39
pvfdis that a space between ./ install.sh?15:40
TechnodicT_Then type ./filename.sh15:40
mhahehey guys im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 along side windows 7. my laptop has 2 HDDs from what i read it has a sata raid controller and since im no expert linux user im guessing thats why the drive names when trying to set up partitions /dev/mapper/ instead of the usual /dev/sda or /dev/sdb.. but the installation keeps failing on installing grub 215:40
mhaheany thoughts?15:40
TechnodicT_Try space if it doset work15:40
maamedhello . i want to increase the size of a folder in ubuntu. i know i can do it by scrolling mouse scroll ball but this makes bigger all folders in the folder  i only want one of them to make big how can i do that15:41
TechnodicT_Mhaha.. try using gparted for partitionin15:41
aidanjtmhahe: are you using raid functions on your motherboard?15:41
mhaheTechnodicT_, I did, ive tried install alongside and manual after freeing up disk space for ubuntu15:42
TechnodicT_Ok15:42
maamedhello . i want to increase the size of a folder in ubuntu. i know i can do it by scrolling mouse scroll ball but this makes bigger all folders in the folder  i only want one of them to make big how can i do that15:42
mhaheaidanjt, im not sure exactly what you mean.. only thing i can think of is when im setting up partitions from live cd /, /home,swap, /boot   I am asked to turn on raid controller15:43
mhaheI say yes15:43
mhaheand proceed15:43
Troy^I'm having a hard time for my ubuntu box to get DNS???? everytime i reboot it it fails to get DNS server i guess and i'm totally stumped the box is setup static15:43
krababbelmhahe: maamed wants the icon bigger I'd guess15:44
maamedkrababbel, only the one i want not all of them15:44
mhahekrababbel, whats that?15:44
TechnodicT_Mhahe are u using wubi?15:44
mhahei did try it once15:44
krababbelmaamed: sorry, I don't know how, I think KDE can do this15:45
mhaheas in popped the cd in and clicked on wubi15:45
BluesKajTroy^, try adding your dns nameservers to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head15:45
mhahewhats the difference?15:45
maamedi use gnome i see krababbel15:45
Troy^BluesKaj: /head?15:45
mhaheTechnodicT_, for the most part i just restart and boot off live cd15:45
BluesKajTroy^, ignore the warning , it will write the dns servers to /etc/resolv,conf15:46
TechnodicT_Mhahe as you ARE New to linux u should stick to wubi15:46
aidanjtmhahe: whatever hard drive controller you're using, whether it be one which came built into your computer's motherboard, or a budget raid addin card, is providing software raid with a slightly clever BIOS, anywho, these are very poorly supported.. so if you need windows and RAID, you might consider running Ubuntu in a virtual machine to avoid dual booting15:46
maamedi foun it krababbel15:46
Troy^BluesKaj: yea because i opened resolv.conf and it said any changes to this will not be kept. so "nameservers 192.168.2.1" correct?15:46
mhaheaidanjt, whats the alternative? re-install windows without raid?15:46
krababbelmaamed: nice :)15:47
maamedbut only works in desktop15:47
aidanjtmhahe: yeah, or buy a hardware raid card with linux support15:47
maamedit does not work in folders in home15:47
maamedyuck15:47
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krababbelmaamed: the file manager should support it i think, I don't use kde or gnome15:47
aidanjtmhahe: linux has fantastic software raid, but unfortunately windows can't use it15:47
BluesKajTroy^, depends what your dns server IPs are15:47
Troy^well the router is the dns server15:48
Troy^i guess15:48
maamedkrababbel, wht do you use15:48
mhaheaidanjt, i just got a brand new sony vaio z model svz13114gxx, so im getting another controller isnt an option15:48
aidanjtmhahe: a laptop with raid?15:48
laurent_tope15:48
krababbelmaamed: i3-wm, and only emelfm2, rarely for file manager15:48
mhaheaidanjt, yea dunno why15:48
maamedoky15:49
Troy^BluesKaj: should i use isp dns servers or just the routers IP and use its DNS resolving? Also was just curious if "nameservers" was the proper parameter to add15:49
mhaheaidanjt, check it out svz13114gxx15:49
aidanjtmhahe: hmmm, probably uses matrix raid.. you may be in luck, try installing ubuntu with the alternative installer disc15:49
mhaheaidanjt, 2 ssd hds15:49
aidanjtyeah just googled it15:49
aidanjtsweet machine15:49
mhaheaidanjt, i did, still failed on grub 2 install15:49
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BluesKajTroy^, some dns nsmeservers just use the IP in /etc/hosts15:50
mhaheaidanjt, yea im so excited about it so been trying to figure it out for 10 hours now15:50
TechnodicT_What is the error?15:50
attenzionesiemano15:50
aidanjtmhahe: bugger.. i thought they would have fixed that by now by using mdadm15:50
mhaheaidanjt, getting sick of it now lol15:50
aidanjtI don't blame you15:50
aidanjtbut yeah, virtualisation is the most hassle-free method and keeping raid15:50
attenzionejest jakis polak?15:50
Troy^BluesKaj: that is not what i really asking but i'm so confused now... and all these dns problems are so frustrating lol15:51
pepperjackTroy^: id use the router as my nameserver then set the router to use whatever dns server.  google's 8.8.8.8 and .7 or whatever. i distrust isp dns15:51
mhaheaidanjt, well only thing stopping me from completely getting rid of windows is not knowing if ill get the same error when installing ubuntu using all the disk space. then im screwwed15:51
kingdhola15:51
mhaheaidanjt, need some os to fall back on15:51
Troy^pepperjack: i didn't even know you could do that15:52
BluesKajTroy^, if you aren't using a dns hosting service then it should matter in your network settings15:52
BluesKajshould not matter15:52
pepperjackTroy^: there should be a field on your router administration page15:52
kingdholaa espa?ol?15:52
aidanjtmhahe: ah well in that case just disable the raid functions in the bios setup, wipe the ssds and do a proper linux software raid install15:52
Troy^will setting the dns server to 8.8.8.8 possibly affect anything else?15:52
diligentdinopepperjack, you have that logic backwards. Google logs everything, and has been known to break the law with personal data. ISPs don't log enough information to identify specific individuals.15:52
BluesKajpepperjack, it's probly set to auto dns in his router admin settings15:53
Troy^BluesKaj: i added that line you told me to that file restarted network and still no dns resolving.15:53
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Troy^BluesKaj: it is15:54
Troy^BluesKaj: i'll show you what i have as options15:54
mhaheaidanjt, when u say software raid install am i looking at something complicated or is it very close to standard install15:54
mhahe?15:54
BluesKajtro the you shouldn't need to set any dns settings in your networking files at all15:54
BluesKajTroy^,^15:55
Troy^BluesKaj: then i don't know why it isn't working15:55
BluesKajTroy^, I assume you aren't using network manager15:55
Troy^BluesKaj: nope, here http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9527/advancedsetuplanipanddh.png15:56
aidanjtmhahe: naw, it's close to a standard install, the only difference is the on disk format is better supported by the Linux kernel.. performs way better than the device-mapper implementation too, and grub wont be confused by it15:56
mhaheaidanjt, also if i reinstalled windows after removing raid config from bios would i be able to dual boot win/ubuntu?15:56
aidanjtmhahe: you could put one os on each ssd no problem15:56
mhahethen ill just do that :)15:56
hp__hello all....xoxox15:57
aidanjtit'll still be fast as hell :)15:57
mhaheaidanjt, thanks loads man appreciate all the help :)15:57
aidanjtssds ftw15:57
aidanjtno problem15:57
pepperjackdiligentdino: there may be privacy concerns with google *shrug* but I trust then to update more often and provide accurate ips on my lookup requests15:57
mhaheaidanjt, ill let you know how it went hopefully ill be done soon if i dont face any more issues lol15:58
aidanjtmhahe: well you know where to get help if you get stuck :)15:58
BluesKajTroy^, have you tried using "statically assigned" settings there?15:59
Troy^I'll set dns server 2 to statically assigned. but what dns server ip do i put there?15:59
Troy^BluesKaj: google's 8.8.8.815:59
diligentdinopepperjack, I'm sure ISP don't supply their own dns hosts. I can almost assume google is involved in some way with providing dns to big boys and their subs.15:59
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diligentdinopepperjack, perhaps a deeper discussion, but that topic doesn't keep the channel on track.16:00
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kingd.......16:00
GameraMy old man looks at a lot of adult content is there a way to remove the Recent files section from the ubuntu one unity bar?16:01
TechnodicT_Compiz crashing frequently any sugestion?16:01
pillarsdotnetPackaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?16:02
BluesKajTroy^, yes , the 8.8.4.4 for the secondary16:02
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BluesKajthe=then16:02
mhaheaidanjt, in bios and only option related to raid is 'show' or 'hide' (raid configuration)16:02
mhaheaidanjt, dont see a disable anywhere. also its set to hide by default.. dont know if that matter16:03
Troy^BluesKaj: 8.8.4.4 which one is that? i though google was 8.8.8.8 also do i need to specify anything for dns servers anywhere in my /etc/network/interfaces the device is set as static16:03
aidanjtmhahe: set it to show, and when the machine boots and gives you a RAID option settings delete the array and hide the config menu again16:03
Alpha-Omegagamer1990: lol, find the file that stores it and run a script ever 5-10 minutes or so that redirects /dev/null to the file :P16:03
aidanjtit would have the same effect16:03
Alpha-Omegaoops16:04
kingdespa?ol?16:04
Alpha-Omegathe guy quit16:05
Alpha-Omegaand i quoted someone else by mistake16:05
Alpha-Omega0_016:05
BluesKajTroy^, tro sorry in the dns servers 1 and 2 in you router page then  as nameserver 8.8.8.8 and below that nameserver 8.8.4.4 in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head16:06
Troy^ok now will every comp on my network have to have dns nameserver specifically set or can they be left as auto? i don't want to have to deal with doing that16:07
Troy^or will they auto pull the dns from the router as the router is going out dns resolving from google16:07
Stimrol_I am trying to play flash on ubuntu 12.04, tried installing gnash, adobe and nothing works, 8 years old computer16:08
xanguaStimrol_: using various plugin for flash at the same time just make no one works; decide if you want adobe or gnash16:09
Troy^I wish i understood DNS a little better for instance how the router handles DNS servers and then how the machines and router deal with DNS servers together16:09
TechnodicT_Strimol go to synaptic16:10
Stimrol_xangua: I tried with adobe only in the begging, always chrash in the browser, both firefox and opera, I am guessing hardware issue or something16:10
krababbelTroy^: usually your isp's router gives you dns info, and the router has a dns cache, which the hosts on your lan can use16:10
keriif u up grade will it delate your doc, pictures, music and books?16:11
xanguaStimrol_: you could try to disable fkash hadrware acceleration -right clic in a fullscreen flash object, preferences-16:11
dr_willisi use the various flashreplacer extendsions and flash downloader tools to let me grab the flash vids :)16:11
Stimrol_xangua: I dont even get the possibility to right click, but I turned that off in firefox preferences16:12
ShawnRi've got dnsmasq setup on my server to help with some locally hosted stuff, and then it forwards out to public name servers afterwards, dig shows me it gets passed on to the nameservers, but it only works half the time (dnsmasq takes forver to tell me it found nothing via dig).  Sometimes running dig on desktop to a public dns will then somehow kickstart dnsmasq to work (not sure about that).  Anywhere16:12
ShawnRbesides daemon.log to check for reasons why this is happening?16:12
krababbelStimrol_: I found pure software flash to be more stable16:12
krababbelStimrol_: it is the default, right click and use video info16:12
mhaheaidanjt, alrighty i just deleted it. and i think i should be able to get through the rest. but just one quick question before i get started. because i deleted the raid volume does that mean I am forced to have each OS on separate partitions and cannot use gparted to logically partition the overall disk space. cause i would prefer to have windows the larger of the two since id like to install some games and have all my music on that partition (mount it when im16:12
mhahe on ubuntu and then i can play my tunes) instead of doing what I usually do, simply have two copies of my media files for ubuntu and windows16:12
xanguaStimrol_: you turned off firefox hardare acceleration, no flash hardware acceleration16:12
aidanjtmhahe: I'm afraid not, raid0 was striping the volume between both SSDs, so without RAID0 you're operating with both disks directly16:13
Stimrol_xangua: yes turned of firefox hardware acceleration, tried with and without16:13
xangua....16:14
aidanjtmhahe: that's why I suggested virtualisation, but if you need to give linux hardware access then this is the only way to do it16:14
xanguaStimrol_: you turned off firefox hadrware acceleration, you did not turned off flash hadrware acceletration16:14
Stimrol_like youtube only shows white where the player should be, and nothing if i right click16:14
mhaheaidanjt, oh okay, what about ubuntu its self from what you said im guessing i will only be able to use one HD?16:15
Stimrol_I can't access flash to rightclick on it and turn of hardware acceleration16:15
mhaheaidanjt, or will i be able to install using combined disk space16:15
aidanjtmhahe: yeah, I mean ubuntu has great software raid, but if windows needs a large amount of space then it needs to eat up a whole ssd so can't really do raid then16:16
alfioadele16:16
numarul7why ubuntu does not support hyperthreading and keeps my CPU at 1.75 ghz instead using speed step and run at 900-1.7 range16:16
mhaheaidanjt, okay got it. thanks again. best help ive gotten on irc ever. cheers16:17
aidanjtmhahe: no problem16:17
h00knumarul7: Linux kernel does support hyperthreading16:17
numarul7it keeps my laptop at 1.7 maximum freq and cooler runing up16:17
alfioharry potter16:17
numarul7in windows works flawless16:18
h00k!ot | alfio16:18
ubottualfio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:18
troy__alright well i seem to not have DNS problems anymore using google16:18
TechnodicT_Any ppl usr archlinux?16:18
pepperjackTechnodicT_: yep. there is an #archlinux channel here as well16:18
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pepperjackTechnodicT_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic or #archlinux  if you'd like to discuss it16:19
keriif i upgrade to the newest unubunt will it delate all my doc, pictures, music and books?16:19
mhaheaidanjt,  im guessing need to use alternate installer, no option to use both HDs on the normal installer16:19
numarul7keri if you update with an cd iso ies16:19
numarul7yes..16:19
numarul7if you update ..better backup16:20
aidanjtmhahe: you only need the alt installer for raid and lvm, the desktop installer should work with multiple hard drives ok16:20
h00knumarul7: I'd start by making sure it is doing your power regulation, what harrdware do you have?16:20
Troy^thank you BluesKaj16:20
h00kkeri: no, but it's always a good dea to have a backup16:20
h00k*idea16:20
keriok i will send it all to dropbox,16:21
Troy^BluesKaj: i just set dns server number 2 to 8.8.8.8 and set it in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head works fine now did couple of reboots with the box and DNS resolving seems to be working perfectly16:21
h00kkeri: you can use Ubuntu One as well, but whatever works, as long as you have a backup16:21
BluesKajTroy^, glad to hear it :)16:22
h00kkeri: what version are you upgrading from/to?16:22
Troy^BluesKaj: although i have another problem i have forwarded my port for ssh and its not the default port but i can't seem to still connect using my external ip address.16:22
keri12. somthing it is the one jsut came out16:22
h00kkeri: 12.04, what version are you running? If you're coming from 10.04, the last Long Term Release, it should be quite smooth16:23
mhaheaidanjt, think my laptop isnt supported very well. at the installation process I have two options erase entire disk and install (can only choose one) or something else (again can only choose one disk)16:23
mhahe:S16:24
keriyes i am on 10.04 just dont want all my stuff gone16:24
BluesKajTroy^, port 22 for ssh ?16:25
aidanjtmhahe: yeah that's the intent isn't it?  install windows on one drive and ubuntu on another?16:25
mhaheaidanjt, i know its recommended to install ubuntu after installing windows, but if im doing it this way with them being on completely different harddisks would grub have issues finding windows and i wont be able to boot windows ?16:25
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BluesKajTroy^, BBL... stuff to do for a few mins16:25
mhaheaidanjt, yea i just wanted to figure it out for future reference, since this has been such a pain thought knowing how to install on the entire disk would come in handy in the future.16:25
aidanjtmhahe: it sould be ok, the grub package reads all the disks and automatically lists what operating systems are on the system16:26
ShawnRis there a channel i can get better help for dnsmasq?16:26
Troy^BluesKaj: using a diff port ok see yea16:26
mhaheaidanjt, sweet16:26
mhaheaidanjt, installing now. fingers crossed lol16:28
aidanjtmhahe: good luck16:28
petrovv_what is the situation with TCP Wrappers in 12.04 - are they still used? (I would like to use the DenyHosts script to protect my family webserver, and wonder if it is efficient at all)16:31
mhaheaidanjt, fml same error 'executing grub-install /dev/sdb failed' - ' this is a fatal error'16:33
oalHow can I enable playback of all the sound a microphone hears, immediately? Not only when recording in Audacity or similar16:34
aidanjtpetrovv_: the kernel's net filtering is more efficient than tcp wrappers16:34
aidanjtmhahe: wow, annoying :\16:34
muppisIs there way to cache whole dvd to swap or somewhere?16:34
petrovv_aidanjt, i.e - iptables? but is there anything as low-maintenance as DenyHosts?16:35
mhaheaidanjt, any idea how i might be able to fix this?16:35
aidanjtmhahe: if you mount the ubuntu filesystem and manually reinstall grub-pc what happens?16:35
pepperjackmuppis: you mean like write the whole dvd to a file so you can eject it?16:35
pepperjackmuppis: or do you mean like to toram option for the livedvd?16:35
aidanjtpetrovv_: yeah iptables is the main netfilters interface, but there are other simplier ones like ufw16:35
mhaheaidanjt, as in complete installation without installing grub and then mounting ?16:35
muppispepperjack, almost. Cache can be cleared if ejected.16:35
aidanjtmhahe: yeah, the install should be done, the only thing that's apparently not working is grub-install16:36
aidanjtmhahe: just chroot it16:36
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mhaheaidanjt, im not even sure how ill mount it16:37
lotuspsychjedr_willis: it didnt work, stiil same square icon16:37
muppispepperjack, can be to hdd. I think video dvd doesn't fit in memory at once.16:37
aidanjtmhahe: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt; chroot /mnt /bin/bash; dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc16:38
aidanjtthat should work, I think16:38
mhaheaidanjt, oh from live cd?16:40
aidanjtmhahe: or if you're using the desktop installer disk you can open the gnome terminal, and sudo su - to gain root and just paste the above in that way16:40
lotuspsychjedr_willis: this is what i get if i take screenshot: http://i46.tinypic.com/spb51c.jpg16:40
mhaheaidanjt, dont know if this is worth mentioning. but im pretty sure i saw the disks as sdc1 sdc2... only option available to me to use for grub installation was sda sda1 sdb16:42
aidanjtmuppis: you can create a tmpfs and write the DVD to a file inside your virtual filesystem, that'll keep it cached so you can eject the disk and it'll be destroyed when you unmount the tmpfs16:42
aidanjtmhahe: yeah, /dev/sda will likely be the disk will install the bootloader code to, which will be enough for it to load grub from sdb16:43
petrovv_what is the name of local answering bot - ubottu?16:44
mhaheaidanjt, but the only disks i saw for installing ubuntu were sdc1 sdc216:44
mhaheaidanjt, is that not weird?16:44
lotuspsychje!bot | petrovv_16:44
ubottupetrovv_: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots16:44
aidanjtmhahe: indeed, very16:44
petrovv_ubottu knows nothing about sshguard vs fail2ban, any suggestions here on which to try first?16:47
ubottupetrovv_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:47
dr_willispetrovv_:  fail2ban seems to work well.. neer heard of sshguard16:47
petrovv_ubottu, I don't think16:47
ubottupetrovv_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:47
dr_willis!info fail2ban16:47
ubottufail2ban (source: fail2ban): ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-3 (precise), package size 82 kB, installed size 414 kB16:47
aidanjtmhahe: would sdc be the usb stick you're using?16:47
dr_willis!info sshguard16:47
ubottusshguard (source: sshguard): Protects from brute force attacks against ssh. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-4 (precise), package size 123 kB, installed size 333 kB16:47
petrovv_ah ok, "!info"16:47
lotuspsychjedr_willis: after the square mouse at login screen, i restarted lightdm again, but it didnt go away after16:48
petrovv_dr_willis, tnx16:49
dr_willislotuspsychje:  soubnds like the drivers or card are not getting initilized properly to me.16:49
Ion330HTHi16:49
mhaheonly thing connect through usb is the media box (external disc/dvd reader/burner and gfx card) + im sure sdcx were the HDs cause they were both 128gb.. which is the size i ordered16:49
lotuspsychjedr_willis: someone sugested me blacklist fxglr to see what happens16:50
lotuspsychjedr_willis: and adding nomodeset to grub, disables compiz on me16:50
Ion330HTI am having some printer issues where Windows Vista won't access/use the ubuntu printer that I have shared. It is visible in Vista but when I try to access it, it complains on faulty drivers and ask me to install the right ones. I do that but then vista complains that it cannot connect to printer16:51
Ion330HTAny clues on how to fix this?16:51
diligentdinoIon330HT, sounds like a windows problem16:52
rsserhow get ubuntu version for notebook?16:52
diligentdinorsser, uname -a16:52
rsserno no, diligentdino16:52
lotuspsychjersser: its the same version now as desktop, remix is dead16:52
rsserI meant get cd/iso16:52
rsserokay, thank you16:52
Ion330HTdiligent, could be. I have tried every ubuntu fix & windows problem solving guide I can find and problem still persists. I can see the printer just fine on the network and all I just can't use it. (it also works fine on ubuntu itself)16:53
lotuspsychjersser: i got netbook on precise 64 bit runs very smooth16:53
rsserThe requested URL /12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent was not found on this server.16:53
rsserApache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at releases.ubuntu.com Port 8016:53
lotuspsychjersser: try the http mirror?16:54
rsserlotuspsychje, but and softwares 32 bits run on 64bits system normally?16:54
Sidewinder1Ion330HT, If no one here knows the answer, perhaps there might be some folks in #windows or ##windows that might be able to help you.16:54
rsserNot Found16:54
rsserThe requested URL /12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.16:54
lotuspsychjersser: you have to install the correct architecture for your pc16:54
rsseris it down too16:54
aidanjtrsser: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent16:54
rsserthank you16:54
rsserlotuspsychje, it's 32bits the processor, lotuspsychje16:54
an0n12.04.116:55
Ion330HTI'll see if the windows guys knows16:55
Sidewinder1Ion330HT, I'm not trying to get rid of you; it's just that,.. Well you know what I mean..16:55
lotuspsychjersser: install 32bit then16:55
rsserokay16:55
Sidewinder1Ion330HT, There's also the ubuntuforums.org, as well.16:55
rsserthank you, lotuspsychje16:55
lotuspsychjenp16:55
an0nUbuntu 12.04.1 is very good ..16:56
lotuspsychje!cups | Ion330HT16:56
ubottuIon330HT: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows16:56
matthieu_Hi folks16:56
matthieu_I encounter a strange issue with my web (wireless) connection on my laptop (Ubuntu 11.10) I'm able to have 540kbps (down) on all computers in my house (including laptop at the same distance from the box) except me. When i do a speed connection test, i can have this optimal speed immediately after booting. As i surf on the net, watching videos, download things, etc... it becomes slower progressively until 100-110 kbps and the16:56
matthieu_ speed remain the same until i reboot.16:56
FloodBot1matthieu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:56
lotuspsychjean0n: i agree, did it also install very fast on you?16:56
lotuspsychjematthieu_:whats your security wifi wep or wpa?16:57
matthieu_wpa16:57
lotuspsychjematthieu_:on what wifi card model?16:58
matthieu_i post here because the other computer have other system and they have a normal speed16:58
an0nlotuspsychje: Prior did not install, froze on the loading screen but is doing well in 12.04.1 to install.16:58
matthieu_How can i see my wifi card model ?16:58
aidanjtmatthieu_: lspci or lsusb as root16:59
lotuspsychjematthieu_:there is a known bug on 11.04 on specific cards with WPA security and speed, try to change to WEP to test if speed remains16:59
lotuspsychjematthieu_:if thats the case its recommended to install precise 12.04.116:59
matthieu_Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)17:00
matthieu_ok17:00
an0nlotuspsychje: Use wpa2 aes..17:00
matthieu_I'll test17:00
lotuspsychjean0n: did you read...its a test...17:00
saorihello17:01
saoriIs there a way to have grub boot into an alternate OS by default, but only once?17:02
rqirc/whois17:02
an0nlotuspsychje: I tested cheat codes at the time and not getting hit, but in 12.04.1 can run live cd ..17:02
wilee-nileesaori, Why?17:02
rqirchello17:03
lotuspsychjesaori:you can manually boot another Os at pc startup by pressing shift17:04
devishand also other kernel verions17:05
saoriwilee-nilee: I have a machine running ubuntu server as a storage server, it does not have a mouse or keyboard. It boots into Ubuntu server by default and becomes accessible via smb or ssh. On a separate hard drive on that same PC, I have Windows 7 installed as a backup or for displaying video on a 40" TV. That Windows install has synergy installed (allowing me to use the mouse and keyboard from a different computer to control it once boote17:05
saorid). Since there is no keyboard, I cannot interact with the PC at boot time in any way.17:05
saorilotuspsychje: as per my last, I cannot interact with grub because there is no physically connected keyboard. Any other ideas?17:06
devishsaori: off topic, you are using this nick (name)...inspireed from sasori?17:06
wilee-nileesaori, Ah that makes sense why you would want it this way, but you need some sort of control to do this eh.17:06
rhizmoesaori: typically the only way to do that is with a lightsout type card or maybe a remote serial console (depending on bios)17:07
dr_willissaori:  theres a way to change the default on the fly. but if you set it to boot windows.. it will stay on windows untill you change it back to linux somehow..17:07
saoridevish: lol actually I usually come in here as "hilo" but I'm on my girlfriend's PC and her name is "Saori"17:07
lotuspsychjesaori: so you want more a specific reboot trigger into another Os17:07
dr_willissaori:   the grub docs mention the 'saved' option.17:07
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dr_willisI have a remote control that is actually a mini keyboard that arrow keys work with grub. ;)17:07
wilee-nileea script of some sort would probably do it as a manual boot17:08
saoriBasically I want grub to change the default back to linux any time it is booted with a default of Windows.17:08
saoriI can easily make the change with a script or something once I'm back in Linux17:08
mhaheaidanjt, it seems the fs is mounted under sda1... but cat /etc/fstab doesnt show it17:09
mhaheaidanjt, working off live cd17:09
saoriAnd I am wondering if it is possible since my Windows can't see the grub configs17:09
saoriOr can grub be configured to do this on it's own somehow17:09
szalw/ grub-legacy you can tell it what boot entry to boot at reboot time.. afaik, grub2 cannot do that (yet)17:09
|Anthony|is there an online package like for kubuntu similar to packages.ubuntu.com17:10
|Anthony|or is it the same thing17:10
aidanjtmhahe: Ubuntu uses uuid's of the partition these days rather than the device nodes, but you can change the uuid entries for /dev/sdX if you like17:10
wilee-nilee|Anthony|, ubuntu uses the ubuntu repos.17:11
wilee-nileekubuntu*17:11
|Anthony|ah17:11
|Anthony|very well17:11
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saoriAlright thanks for the info17:13
varoneperdon hay algun server español?17:13
Neptuhej have a problem with ubuntu cron, is not working with default install... its needed to reconfigure something?17:13
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lotuspsychje!info bootnext17:17
lotuspsychjethat doesnt look very good17:17
lotuspsychjesaori: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/how-to-reboot-in-windows-from-ubuntu.html17:17
ubottuPackage bootnext does not exist in precise17:17
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szallotuspsychje: you have timing.. right in the middle of a netsplit :P17:18
diamondidoes installing idm using wine work fine?17:18
diamondidoes installing idm using wine work fine?17:19
szaldiamondi: WineHQ AppDB should be able to tell you.. and don't repeat yourself w/o due cause please :)17:19
diamondioh sorry17:19
lotuspsychjeszal: been admin on other nets in the past does it show :p17:19
szal!wine | diamondi, just to tell you where to look17:20
ubottudiamondi, just to tell you where to look: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:20
szalah..17:20
szal!appdb17:21
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help17:21
FloodBot1!netsplit17:21
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:21
lotuspsychjedr_willis: did you see that pic i paste from desktop?17:21
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:wb :p17:23
dr_willislotuspsychje:  nope.. eating pizza. ;)17:25
lotuspsychjedr_willis: http://i46.tinypic.com/spb51c.jpg strange screen of the square mouse17:25
lotuspsychjeanyway i gotta run17:25
dr_willisfrom that screenshot.. you got deeper issues then a mouse problem.17:26
igor__так17:27
igor__всем ку17:27
dr_willis!ru17:28
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:28
IdleOne!ru | igor__17:28
ubottuigor__: please see above17:28
igor__!ru17:28
igor__hi17:28
igor__i have acer one netbook, xubuntu, not working camera (17:29
dr_willishow have you tested the camera?17:29
igor__in debian working, in xubuntu not working, but in debian not working wi if ) this camera)17:30
igor__testing in skype17:30
dr_willisHow are you using the camera? what app are you testing it with.....17:30
igor__s17:30
dr_willisTry it in Cheese.17:30
igor__skype17:31
igor__)17:31
dr_willis--->  Try it in Cheese.  if it works in cheese then its a SKYPE issue17:31
mhahewhen installing ubuntu do i use primary or logical for partition type? im using the entire disk and setting up the following partitions : swap, /, /home, /boot17:31
igor__i not have command in terminal17:31
dr_willis!info cheese17:32
ubottucheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 53 kB, installed size 326 kB17:32
igor__ok )17:32
dr_willisInstall cheese, try it in Cheese....17:32
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dr_willismhahe:  i tend to use all primaries for simple setups17:33
dr_willismhahe:  a /boot/ is not normally needed tehse days. but can come in handy17:33
mhahewhats the difference?17:33
robotwizardhello. I'm trying to decide between intalling the desktop or server edition. Server seems to be database friendly and I would like to learn database but havn't worked with linux in a few years.17:33
dr_willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning17:33
zhouqzhello17:34
dr_willisrobotwizard:  you can install any services you need on the desktop edition.17:34
mhahedr_willis, ive been trying to install ubuntu but grub 2 keeps failing. been at it for more than 10 hours now.17:34
* dr_willis is not sure what 'database friendly' really means.17:34
Troy^robotwizard: they are pretty much universal but if this comp is mainly for desktop that i would choose desktop version if not server17:34
dr_willismhahe:  boot live cd, try that boot-repair tool mentioned in the fixgrub url/wiki pages peryhaps.17:34
zhouqzwhiskey17:34
Troy^robotwizard: they can both pretty much install both of each others packages17:34
* rox is ATK17:34
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roxrobotwizard: the difference is only in default install17:35
robotwizardso kernal is the same... desktop just has added services?17:35
dr_willisrobotwizard:  you want a GUI? or just console/text interface?17:36
roxrobotwizard: you can pretty much turn a server install into desktop and vice versa merely by using the package manager to install and uninstall various packages17:36
robotwizardboth17:36
Troy^lol17:36
dr_willisrobotwizard:  then install the desktop edition.....17:36
roxrobotwizard: then install desktop17:36
gordonjcprobotwizard: are you going to use this as a standalone server, or a desktop machine?17:37
gordonjcprobotwizard: I'd pick which distro to install based on what it is physically going to be used for17:37
Neptuhave a problem with crontab17:37
johnnyonflameis there any way to pipe my microphone sound to my output?17:38
gordonjcprobotwizard: you can easily install desktop on your, uhm, desktop - and then add the server packages you want17:38
Neptuis not working with root and all seems to be ok...17:38
gordonjcpjohnnyonflame: turn up the volume in the playback page of alsamixer17:38
Neptugrandchild #28367 failed with exit status 12717:38
robotwizardwanted to use as a desktop but also use to learn server, so I guess both. Maybe I should set up additional pertition and have 2 separate installs?17:38
johnnyonflamegordonjcp, thanks17:38
dr_willistheres no need for 2 installs...17:38
dr_willisthe desktop has the full cli tools and can run any services you want to play with17:38
robotwizardok thanks.17:39
dr_willissame as in linux a few years ago... ;)17:39
gordonjcpjohnnyonflame: bear in mind that many voip apps will provide a bit of "sidetone" from your microphone to your earpiece17:39
johnnyonflameI dont have that here17:39
gordonjcpjohnnyonflame: What exactly are you trying to do?17:39
johnnyonflameI have my notebook connected to my pc (p2-p2 male cable)17:40
johnnyonflameso my notebook's output goes straight into my pc input17:40
dr_williswhats a P2-P2 cable?17:40
johnnyonflame3,5mm jack17:40
gordonjcprobotwizard: you ever notice how if you go to buy a flatbed truck or a box van, they look kind of the same apart from the bit bolted on at the back?17:40
johnnyonflamea.k.a. the usual connector17:40
dr_willisjohnnyonflame:  you mean a  Network cable?17:40
johnnyonflameuh no17:41
johnnyonflameaudio cable17:41
gordonjcpdr_willis: no, an audio cable with a 3.5mm jack plug17:41
pillarsdotnetPackaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?17:44
ZaehlasHi!  Running into issues with the new isc dhcp server..  basically, I can't located where the config files are supposed to be, and every guide / man page I can find point to the OLD dhcp3 file locations, which are not working for me.17:45
liamhello? I'm brand new to IRC17:46
szalliam: and?17:46
liamjust saying hi and trying to figure out how to use my mic input in ubuntu17:47
liamim trying to route my mixing station into the mic input but ubuntu isn't recognizing the device17:47
unlessI am looking for a application like x-lite for Ubuntu. Does anybody knows where I could find it please?17:48
szalwhat is x-lite?17:48
unlessIt is used for Voip telephony17:48
liam@unless http://www.counterpath.com/x-lite-download.html17:48
unlessliam, but I cannot find a Linux version there.17:49
liamwhat distro?17:49
dr_willisthe distrowatch site had info on a site with like 100+ 'appliance' virtual images...17:49
szal!sip | unless17:49
ubottuunless: ekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga17:49
szalliam: what do you think? ;)17:49
dr_willisno idea what xlite is. :) but there were some sip appliances i recall17:49
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unlessszal, cool, thank you.17:50
liamszal: i meant what number but HA.HA. :P17:50
dr_willishttp://www.turnkeylinux.org/  has some neat toys. ;P17:50
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acerhi all ! I get when trying to get my emails with thunderbird connection refused17:56
liamhas anyone had any luck configuring an ubuntu webcam software with an external mic input? tryna record music videos and this is quite vexing17:56
WarOfTheNerdliam, if it uses PulseAudio that's easy17:57
WarOfTheNerdYou can literally configure that on sound settings if it's using PulseAudio and choose the external mic17:57
luftikussWhat considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."17:57
luftikussacer: May be you typed a wrong e-mail address in Thunderbird's e-mail account.18:00
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diverdudeHow can i measure the response time of an http request?18:03
aidanjtdiverdude: time wget url18:03
luftikussacer: You may attach to  the moznet IRCnetwork and join the #thunderbird channel to get more help.18:04
tim167how do I reset alsa? _without_ rebooting the computer? (tried "alsa force-reload", no success, still "aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy") thanks18:04
gordonjcptim167: find out what's holding the device open18:04
gordonjcptim167: probably pulseaudio18:04
tim167gordonjcp: how do i find out?18:05
tim167gordonjcp: i removed pulsaudio18:05
gordonjcptim167: check it hasn't come back18:05
gordonjcptim167: What exactly are you trying to do?18:05
tim167gordonjcp: i'm trying to play a video with sound in firefox18:05
aidanjttim167: it might still be running in memory, use pulseaudio -k to stop it18:05
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tim167gordonjcp: The program 'pulseaudio' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing18:06
dr_willisremoveing pulse audio to try to play a video in firefox.. seems.. extreme18:06
Troy^is there a way to perform an internet speed test from command line? also isn't this how you add a repo it is saying unkown command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jcfp/ppa18:06
gordonjcpyeah, I only usually need to get that brutal with pulseaudio when it gets in the way of using jack18:06
luftikussTroy^: Try ntop.18:07
aidanjtTroy^: wget a large file from a fast mirror and watch the bandwidth readout?18:07
tim167dr_willis: i had had it with pulseaudio, always giving me trouble, that's why i finally just removed it, but now with alsa still troublesome to have the soundcard released18:07
zorbamaHello, I need some help with the Wacom driver, does anyone know anything about that?18:07
WarOfTheNerdtim167, route PulseAudio through dmix18:07
WarOfTheNerdtim167, then you get a little latency but nothing will lock the card exclusive since dmix will always have a hold on it because of persistent PulseAudio using dmix18:08
tim167WarOfTheNerd: hmm dmix, what's that? (did you read that I removed pulseaudio alltogether?)18:08
WarOfTheNerdtim167, dmix is the software mixer that ALSA uses18:08
aidanjttim167: reinstall pulse, issue the pulseaudio -k command, restart alsa, check pulse is off, uninstall pulse18:08
WarOfTheNerddmix lets you run more than one app at once without any of them having exclusive control18:09
gordonjcptim167: I don't recommend trying to remove pulseaudio18:09
tim167gordonjcp: I already did :)18:09
gordonjcptim167: never mind that I *do* remove pulseaudio, the fact that *I* do it ought to be enough to warn you off!18:09
gordonjcptim167: put it back, then18:09
WarOfTheNerdalso only morons would ditch PA these days when dmix can let you run PA and keep other software able to use ALSA18:09
dr_willisnormally i see people remove pulse.. then they come back in asking how to get it vback. :)18:10
tim167gordonjcp: ok I can try that18:10
gordonjcptim167: it's a bad idea to remove it, unless you are intimately acquainted with the deep scary guts of ALSA18:10
aidanjtgordonjcp: or have a decent soundcard18:10
gordonjcplike I say, I *do* remove pulseaudio18:10
gordonjcpbut then again I also run custom sound card drivers written from scratch18:10
tim167WarOfTheNerd: I'll try to reinstall PA, does dmix come packed with it ?18:10
n1ckn4me09876543i have ubuntu installed,   but now i want to make another partition,  do i have to defrag the hdd or is it ok to just go ahead and create anotehr partition with gparted?18:11
WarOfTheNerdtim167, no it doesn't also you'll need to Google for info on how to configure it to use dmix18:11
Troy^luftikuss: thanks ntop is pretty intense lol18:11
dr_willisn1ckn4me09876543:  you are resizeing a windows ntfs partition?18:11
WarOfTheNerdtim167, PulseAudio is a decent solution on its own anyway, only really old apps fail with it these days18:11
luftikussTroy^: yw18:11
* WarOfTheNerd hasn't had issues with native Linux apps using PA in over 2 years 18:11
WarOfTheNerdwith exception to pSX and Wine because of old versions of 32-bit libs18:12
histon1ckn4me09876543: unless you are resizing a ntfs or fat partition you don't need to defrag prior to resizing.18:12
gordonjcpeven stuff that uses OSS works just fine with alsa-oss18:12
zorbamaHello, how do I define my Wacom tablet's buttons through the terminal? It seems that the GUI doesn't have any effect on the settings18:12
WarOfTheNerdbut pSX is ancient and unmaintained and Wine is for non-native apps18:12
tim167WarOfTheNerd: in fact I had the exact same problem with pulseaudio installed, : use program A with sound, close that program, now program B can not access soundcard, only solution is to _reboot_ (so Windoze-ian)18:12
vintonI've had issues with pulseaudio on every distro18:13
michelfpI need help: When using "make -f Makefile", I get the error "seeborg.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set18:13
michelfp, error code 1"18:13
WarOfTheNerdtim167, that is likely down to letting said app take exclusive control of the sound card18:13
n1ckn4me09876543dr_willis:   no  this is my set up,    465 Gb      405Gb ubuntu  60Gb windows8,    i would liek to make partition between them, so i will be resizing/cutting     the 405 Gb ext filesystem18:13
WarOfTheNerdtim167, if you leave PulseAudio alone with default config it will block exclusive access while it runs, preventing that from happening18:14
vintonexit18:14
vintondamn18:14
tim167WarOfTheNerd: well most probably yes, so my question is, how to reclaim the soundcard for another program without rebooting?18:14
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gordonjcpmichelfp: What exactly are you trying to do?18:14
aidanjtmichelfp: what are you trying to compile?18:14
n1ckn4me09876543dr_willis, histo:  basicially i wodnt even touch the 60Gb  ntfs win8 partition just the 405Gb  ext ubuntu18:14
michelfpCompiling Seeborg18:14
michelfpSeeborg18:14
tim167WarOfTheNerd: apparently that was not true in my case, I had this problem right from the start (installing ubuntu 12.04 that is)18:15
histon1ckn4me09876543: you can resize it from a livecd without an issue18:15
gordonjcpmichelfp: sounds like it may not be configured correctly18:15
n1ckn4me09876543histo, ty18:15
WarOfTheNerdtim167, with which application?18:15
histon1ckn4me09876543: as always though when messing with partitions make sure your data is backed up juts incase18:15
xpistosHello all. Is there a channel for Landscape?18:16
WarOfTheNerdtim167, normally killing the app that has exclusive access frees up access18:16
tim167WarOfTheNerd: any combination of 2 applications using sound, whichever is opend first gets the sound, all others that follow do not...18:16
WarOfTheNerdtim167, that's because you removed PulseAudio18:16
lauratikahi im on a windows/ubuntu dual boot machine windows detect wired connection no problem. but ubuntu wont. any ideas how to fix this?18:16
WarOfTheNerdtim167, PulseAudio takes exclusive access, preventing any other access which doesn't go through PulseAudio, preventing that condition18:16
tim167WarOfTheNerd: yes, I try "sudo alsa force-reload", I try "killall firefox" ...Etc18:16
WarOfTheNerdif it's flash then pkill -9 plugin-container18:17
tim167WarOfTheNerd: again, I had the exact same situation with pulseaudio installed18:17
tim167WarOfTheNerd: ok, I'll try , see what that does18:17
WarOfTheNerdtim167, either configure dmix manually with ALSA and keep a sound server loaded and accessing dmix or leave PulseAudio as shipped and let it hold exclusive access18:18
aidanjtmichelfp: it looks like you'll have to edit the Makefile by hand and change the CFCPU variable to "native"18:18
lauratikaseems a configuration error to me.18:18
WarOfTheNerdtim167, those are the only two ways to keep apps from taking access18:18
tim167WarOfTheNerd: honestly I would NOT have removed Pulseaudio if I hadn't had this problem in the first place18:19
michelfp<aidanjt> michelfp: it looks like you'll have to edit the Makefile by hand and change the CFCPU variable to "native"18:19
michelfpDid that18:19
WarOfTheNerdtim167, what app causes this issue by the way?  and I'm on about before you removed PA18:19
michelfpg++: native: No such file or directory18:19
michelfpNvm18:19
michelfpworked but got errors.18:19
aidanjt:/18:19
tim167WarOfTheNerd: as I said, any program that runs first and uses sound hijacks the soundcard18:20
WarOfTheNerdtim167, that's because of removing PA, that's the way ALSA works if you don't configure dmix or use a sound server like PA18:20
tim167WarOfTheNerd: whether it be firefox, vlc, kdenlive, puredata...or whatever18:20
WarOfTheNerda subset of apps will fight PA for access or try to kill it, if you encounter one of those, file a bug against it18:21
tim167WarOfTheNerd: I have a hard time believing that installing pulseaudio will fix this because I removed it because I had this exact problem with it installed18:21
WarOfTheNerdtim167, if you have it installed with the ALSA plugin that redirects everything to it, as is default, then nothing can use vanilla ALSA and take exclusive access18:22
wilee-nileelauratika, Here are two commands oone or the other should indentify the card post it.  lspci | grep -i wireless18:22
wilee-nileelspci | grep Broadcom18:22
tim167WarOfTheNerd: but there must be a way to forcibly stop any application using the soundcard, and free it up, no ?18:22
wilee-nileeone*18:22
WarOfTheNerdtim167, yes, kill the application which is using it18:23
tim167WarOfTheNerd: if only I knew which application is using it right now...18:23
tim167WarOfTheNerd: do you know of a way to find that out?18:23
dr_williskill them all. ;)18:23
michelfphttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=djxuym2c18:24
michelfpgetting this error18:24
tim167dr_willis: well, yes, that works for sure, aka 'reboot', but that's what I'm trying to avoid18:24
dr_willislsof  perhaps.18:24
dr_willis lsof | grep audio18:25
lauratikawilee-nilee but i have to disconect from here18:25
lauratikaisnt weird windows detetc the network and ubuntu wonty?18:25
WhitestarHey18:25
tim167dr_willis: ok thanks, looking, not sure what to make of it...18:26
tim167hd-audio0   951       root  cwd   unknown                               /proc/951/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)18:26
tim167hd-audio0   951       root  rtd   unknown                               /proc/951/root (readlink: Permission denied)18:26
tim167hd-audio0   951       root  txt   unknown                               /proc/951/exe (readlink: Permission denied)18:26
tim167hd-audio0   951       root NOFD                                         /proc/951/fd (opendir: Permission denied)18:26
tim167nautilus   1960        tim  mem       REG        8,5     250232 1976359 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstaudio-0.10.so.0.2518:26
wilee-nileelauratika, without knowing the card you are basically dead in the water, I suspect a broadcom, which needs some configuration.  Are you on windows now while trying to fix ubuntu?18:26
FloodBot1tim167: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:26
MerisDoes anoyone have experience with medion gaming mouse? I've attached the thing to my Ubuntu 12.04. The buttons don't work adnd the cursor doesn't go further than perhaps 1/6th of the screen18:26
pillarsdotnetPackaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?18:26
tim167sorry for flooding guys18:26
maladorelauratika it could be a driver problem. i am not highly skilled in ubuntu but i had that problem18:27
wilee-nilee!pastebin | tim16718:27
ubottutim167: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:27
WarOfTheNerdtim167, lsof /dev/snd/*18:27
WarOfTheNerdtim167, try that18:27
Whitestarwilee you talking about networking issues?  I'm experiencing some... care to tell me what ya need to know?18:27
WarOfTheNerdtim167, then the COMMAND column shows processes which are using sound devices18:27
zorbamaHow can I configure my Wacom tablet buttons? Changing the functions through the GUI has no effect.18:27
wilee-nileeWhitestar, you need to ask your questions to the channel and see who knows what. ;)18:27
* Whitestar has been beating his head against the wall for like 14 hours18:28
Whitestarlol, kk :)18:28
lauratikawilee-milee: yes im in windows... im on a lenovo all in one cseries 20018:28
tim167aha, jackdbus ??18:28
leaperHey is a lenovo computer any good?18:28
leaperLaratika: switch to ubuntu18:28
wilee-nileelauratika, you need to indentify the card then come back for help.18:28
WhitestarAnyone know how to get a wireless nic to work in a virtual box ubuntu setting?  Tried bridging it thru vb, but doesn't show up as wlan0, shows up at eth1 and doesn't detect the router I'm connected to in windows (7)...18:29
lauratikaleaper just got it, seem ok18:29
leaperJust wondering18:29
Merisleaper: lenovo computers can be good, but ultimately it all depends what you need it for, regardless of the brand18:29
tim167WarOfTheNerd: dr_willis: lsof /dev/snd/* shows jackdbus, I try killall jackdbus, but nothing seems to happen18:29
lauratikawilee-nilee: ok, let me try that18:29
wilee-nilee!broadcom > lauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link18:29
leaperThey're on sale at my local walmart18:29
leaperFor cheap18:29
Merisleaper, which model is?18:30
histoWhitestar: yeah it will show up as eth0 in the guest but uses your wlan0 on your host18:30
leaperDunno18:30
WarOfTheNerdtim167, pkill -9 jackdbus18:30
leaperI just need one for a fast, everyday computer18:30
histoWhitestar: You could use a usb wireless adapter and a usb filter I believe to have it show as a wireless device in the guest OS18:30
wilee-nilee!broadcom > lauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link18:30
wilee-nilee!broadcom | lauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link18:30
ubottulauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:30
Merisleaper, people can only help you with that question if you know the model, or at least some specs.18:30
leaperLaptop for one18:31
Whitestarhisto: trying to get the wireless nic to go to monitor mode... am I just missing something?  the commands don't work when I try it...18:31
tim167WarOfTheNerd:  woooot :) thanks a lot, made my day !18:31
Whitestarhisto: no way to do it with a regular card?18:31
histoWhitestar: I don't believe so i'm doing some digging now18:31
Merisleaper, that is not exactly specific, now is it?18:31
leaperI don't have the model18:32
Whitestarhisto: want the model of the card?  it's not a broadcom ;)18:32
leaperI just glanced at a walmart magazine, and saw "LENOVO LAPTOPS ON SALE"18:32
leaperThen looked at the price and flipped out18:32
Whitestarhisto: mind if I pm?18:33
WarOfTheNerdtim167, now don't get rid of PulseAudio, set it up like it was shipped as default, complete with the ALSA PulseAudio Plugin and if an app tries to steal exclusive access, then ask for help18:33
Merisleaper, well in general Lenovo laptops are good18:33
leaperOk thanks18:33
pillarsdotnetI love my Lenovo W520.18:33
Merisleaper, just don't buy it before you have seen what the specs. are and if they are enough for your purposes18:34
tim167WarOfTheNerd: I haven't installed PulseAudio, it's the pkill -9 jackdbus that did it for me, that's all I need for now...thanks for helping, have a nice day18:34
leaperAnd they're fine with Ubuntu?18:34
pillarsdotnetleaper: yup.18:34
luftikussWhat considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."18:34
leaperOk18:35
WarOfTheNerdleaper, for any non-gaming uses you can pretty much get anything these days18:35
histoWhitestar: it can't be done with virtualbox18:35
kantlivelongim going insanew18:35
pillarsdotnetleaper: Only problem is that Optimus support is ... problematic.  But that's true of all laptops with dual Intel / Nvidia video hardware.18:35
leaperWarOfTheNerd: I do play minecraft every now and then18:35
kantlivelongmy dvd burner is randomly spinning up even tho theres no cd18:35
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, it's broken on Windows too18:35
histoWhitestar: The only way is with the non OSS edition of virtualbox and a usb wireless adapter.18:35
kantlivelongleaper: pillarsdotnet im using bumblebee and its workin rather well so far18:36
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, I broke a few laptops in shops when trying to make benchmark apps work with dual Intel/NVIDIA18:36
maladoreI have a nvidia mx 440 how to do i get it to higher resolutions in ubuntu 12.04 currecntly 1024x76818:36
MerisI'm trying to use a Medion MD86079 Gaming mouse on Ubuntu 12.04, but the cursor only gets as far as 1/6th of the screen and the buttons don't do anything, The device does not show up in the USB ID Database. Any suggestions?18:36
Whitestarhisto: what about a partitioned drive?  would it work that way?  and what types of problems can I potentially run into?18:36
pillarsdotnetkantlivelong, leaper: Yeah, I'm using bumblebee too.  The optirun hack works with most but not all opengl programs.18:37
histoWhitestar: Do you mean dualbooting?18:37
WarOfTheNerdhisto, there is no such thing as a non OSS version of VirtualBox anymore18:37
kantlivelongpillarsdotnet: odd i havent had an issue yet.18:37
histoWarOfTheNerd: ahh18:37
Whitestarhisto: I don't mind doing the research, just new at it and don't wanna go in blind... I'm thinking second operating system...18:37
Whitestarhisto: Not running both at the same time, just a clean ubuntu install on a partitioned drive and load in that way18:38
WarOfTheNerdhisto, since Oracle took over, USB support is built-in for USB 1.1 and if you want non-OSS features you install an "Extension Pack" that goes on top of the OSS version18:38
histoWhitestar: yeah you could do that then which ever OS you boot would have access to your physical hardware.18:38
WeThePeoplemeris, 'sudo apt-get update' maybe18:38
histoWarOfTheNerd: that's right they went with the extension pack thing18:38
Whitestarhisto: Ever try hooking a blackberry up in ubuntu?18:38
histoWarOfTheNerd: it's been awhile18:38
pillarsdotnetkantlivelong: haven't had *much* problems since turning off compiz, but there are some edge cases.18:38
histoWhitestar: Are you currently running ubuntu as a virtual machine?18:39
Whitestarhisto: it's my only internet source atm... running it tethered, wondering if it'll work as well18:39
Whitestarhisto: Yep18:39
kantlivelongpillarsdotnet: wonder how far we are off from kernel support18:39
histoWhitestar: ahh yeah i'd setup a dualboot setup. Resizing windows and leaving some space on the drive for ubuntu.  The installer can walk you through all that. Just defrag your windows drive first.18:40
pillarsdotnetAnybody else using rEFInd for EFI booting?18:40
histoWhitestar: I don't own a blackberry but I would search on askubuntu or the forums and see if anyone is having issues with tethering your specific model.18:40
WarOfTheNerdWhitestar, it works on Ubuntu for backups if you install an app called barrybackup (package: barrybackup-gui)18:40
Whitestarhisto: Kk, thanks for the help :)18:40
pillarsdotnetPackaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/50292018:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 502920 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Canon UFR II driver needs packaging" [Wishlist,Confirmed]18:40
WarOfTheNerdNo idea about tethering, since I never even got it working on Windows, let alone Linux18:41
Whitestarwarofthenerd: Which reminds me, installing apps... I can download them ahead and throw them on a usb key right?18:41
rhizmoegoogle "ubuntu screencast" and note the lack of well-placed results for simple instructions for creating screencasts18:41
WarOfTheNerdWhitestar, for BlackBerry?  you can throw them on the BB in the right directory and it'll offer to install18:41
rhizmoenot to mention "waiting for wiki.ubuntu.com..."18:41
Whitestarwarofthenerd: Awesome, thanks :)18:41
pillarsdotnetWhitestar: Yup. Use "apt-get download packagename" to download.18:41
Whitestarhisto: Thanks for the help sir18:42
Whitestarpillarsdotnet: K, will get on all of this in a few moments.. time to do dishes, switch laundry loads... got it sucks being a stay at home dad sometimes... ;)18:42
ceckohi all, I am on Quantal, my system does not shut down properly, it gets stuck in the process, can you help me what logs to look into?18:42
WarOfTheNerdcecko, try #ubuntu+1 for help with that18:43
WarOfTheNerdcecko, we don't support the alpha/beta/dev stream in here, that's what +1 exists for :)18:43
ceckoWarOfTheNerd: thanks18:43
pillarsdotnetWhat are the official ubuntu help channels?18:43
pillarsdotnetOr how can I get a list?18:43
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, this is for up to date versions18:44
WarOfTheNerdfor dev/beta/alpha it's #ubuntu+118:44
WarOfTheNerdand there are regional channels like -fr, -es etc.18:44
Neptuthis is really screw up cron is not working even with an echo "lala" >> /home/neptu/lala.txt18:44
lauratikawilee-nilee: my card is an atheros18:44
pillarsdotnetWarOfTheNerd: So I should be asking my question in the other channel?18:45
e-i-k-ehi18:45
HellTigerhello18:45
HellTigercan i upgrade a server installation to a desktop system?18:45
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, only if it applies to Quantal Quetzal (12.10)18:46
rhizmoeNeptu: if that's your entire cron command, you should have an email in your (local) mailbox with the output18:46
rhizmoeHellTiger: what do you mean, just to install a desktop environment or something?18:46
Nepturhizmoe: i get nothing18:46
HellTigeryes18:46
HellTigervia apt kde18:46
HellTigerit was the server iso18:46
pillarsdotnetWarOfTheNerd: Where is a good place to ask a packaging question?  Not release-specific -- trying to package something new.18:47
e-i-k-ewhat is the easiest way for me to see what packages i've installed from "foreign sources" (don't know the EN term, DE here...)... messed up my system with anoying dependencies...18:47
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, try #ubuntu-motu18:48
rhizmoeHellTiger: i think it's just apt-get install <whatever>-desktop (xubuntu, gnome, etc.)18:48
HellTigerok18:48
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, MOTU stands for Masters Of The Universe and it's the channel for packaging anything you want to go into Universe or Multiverse18:48
HellTigere-i-k-e: you should go in the direction: dpkg -l18:48
pillarsdotnetah.18:48
pillarsdotnetthanks.18:48
WarOfTheNerdpillarsdotnet, it's kinda a historical reference because originally Ubuntu had Universe/Multiverse disabled by default and those repos had separate packagers18:49
WarOfTheNerd(now I think everyone just digs in to make the best of everything)18:50
Nepturhizmoe: this is weird now the echo works... but i can not run /usr/sbin/ntpdate server >> /lala.txt18:54
Nepturhizmoe: this might has to do with the editor used?18:56
e-i-k-eHellTiger: using synaptic's "origin" list seems to fit my needs18:56
Zaehlasok, still fighting with the isc-dhcp-server.  Fresh install of server 12.04.  using syslog I've isolated all errors with the dhcp.conf file, however it's listening on the wrong interface.  I cannot find the correct config file to change this...  Can anyone help?18:58
histoNeptu: who's crontab are you putting that in?18:58
luftikussWhat considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."18:59
gunarm1can anyone in gnome tell me what the the "kill program" applet command is?  its crashed and i can't find it in ps to kill18:59
Neptuhisto: the one that comes standard with the install did not changed nothing18:59
histoNeptu: can your normal user run that command wihtout permission problems?18:59
luftikussgunarm1: What GUI are you using?18:59
internetN00bhi, how do I switch workspace by scrolling on the desktop in gnome-shell?19:00
eHAPPYok so im trying to install a .deb file through terminal and it keeps giving me errors, if i do it through the GUI it installs just fine, any help? dpkg -i .deb is what im doing19:00
Neptuhisto: lets try again19:00
Neptuyes it can19:00
Neptuhisto: yes it can19:00
luftikusseHAPPY: Please state the exact error message.19:01
Neptuthe weird thing here is that sometimes works and sometimes does not19:01
histoNeptu: can you pastebin your crontab   just crontab -l to see it's contents19:01
gunarm1luftikuss, gnome classic19:01
Neptuwith the same command19:01
Nepturoot@av-meteo:/# crontab -l19:01
Neptu* * * * * echo 'lala' >> /lala.txt19:01
[snake]I have a gtk question ( in C ) but no one is in gtk barely. only ten people they never answer :(19:01
Ubuntuser101234hello19:01
histoNeptu: well get rid of 's19:01
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gunarm1luftikuss, actually apparently 12.04 breaks the force quit applet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/89434719:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 894347 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Force Quit applet never quits" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:02
Neptuhisto: rid of what?19:02
histoNeptu: the ' <----19:02
Neptuthis is actually working19:02
histoNeptu: okay then what is the problem?19:02
Ubuntuser101234i cant seem to get softwere in ubuntu 12.0419:02
[snake]I suppose no one in here is a gtk programmer :(19:03
Neptuhisto: no idea... gonna try something a bit more complicated19:03
leaperWhat's GTK?19:03
david__does installing cinnamon slow down my boot time and or system?19:03
luftikussgunarm1: Sorry. I can't help you. I do not have such an applet.19:04
[snake]leaper, gui stuff. like winapi but linuxxy. also for linux there is qt I know.19:04
histoNeptu: use crontab -e to edit your file also you are logged in as root so you are making changes to root's crontab19:04
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gunarm1luftikuss, thanks anyway its a bug in the LTS19:04
Guest69837when installing xubuntu i get an I/O error errno 5 and it says that my drive or disc is broken but the live session works and i used imgburn and validated the image after install. i just installed win7 to another partition too so i think the dvd drive is not the problem. the hard drive is an ssd and i just bought it so i dont think its broken. the installer stops at copying files and in the mini console it says something about dup19:04
Guest69837licate sources. what can i do?19:04
eHAPPYluftikuss http://imgur.com/jpLsQ19:04
Neptuhisto: exactly and that is what i want to do19:04
luftikussgunarm1: Ok. I did not know.19:04
[snake]Ubuntuser101234, what do you mean?19:05
histoNeptu: then the proper way would be sudo crontab -e19:05
Neptuhisto: I can try with that aswell but is the same thing basically19:05
Neptudu a sudo bash19:05
Neptuor sudo conrtab -e is same thing19:06
gunarm1is echo$? how you get an error code?19:06
gunarm1echo $?19:06
histoNeptu: sudo bash is not proper. If you want to get to a root prompt sudo -i19:06
Neptuhisto: is not executing nothing more than an echo19:06
Neptuok19:06
Neptuwill do that19:06
greatwarriorhello everybody. I wanted a help regarding gparted.19:06
someprimetimei just created a user, added them to `admin and now when i login with that user, it seems that the termincal colors are turned off... is there a way to grant that to the user or group of `admin`?19:07
gunarm1sudo -i ? not sudo su?19:07
Ubuntuser101234ok i cant seem to get software in ubuntu 12.04LTS and i cant download stuff off  the ubuntu softwere center it keeps saying package dependencies cant be resolved19:07
Ubuntuser101234and i dont know what to do i use ubuntu 10.0419:07
gunarm1Ubuntuser101234, did you do a sudo apt-get update19:07
Neptuhisto: seems to be some diferent let w8 to the next minute19:07
gunarm1Ubuntuser101234, are you in 12.04 or 10.04?19:08
greatwarriorcan anybody please  help me regarding gparted ? i am new to this channel19:08
fsdarewqtif i do "sudo su -" what would happen19:08
fsdarewqtwould it ask me for the password?19:08
gunarm1greatwarrior, ask your question19:08
histosomeprimetime: how did you create the user perhaps they didn't get skeleton files for .bashrc etc... from /etc/skel19:08
gunarm1if anyone knows the answer, and is so inclined, they will tell you19:08
Ubuntuser10123412.04 im used to 10.0419:09
someprimetimehisto: useradd someprimetime19:09
luftikusseHAPPY: Try to do first 'sudo apt-get update'. Let it follow by 'sudo apt-get upgrade'. Is this successful?19:09
histosomeprimetime: should have copied but take a look in your /home/someprimetime and ls -lah19:09
gunarm1Ubuntuser101234, try following luftikuss' above instructions to eHAPPY19:09
[snake]Ubuntuser101234, http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies19:10
eHAPPYluftikuss ok that worked! i must have forgot the -f thanks!19:10
luftikusseHAPPY: yw19:10
ZaehlasStill trying to get my isc-dhcp-server up.  I have verified the dhcpd.conf file is correct, but it's listening on the wrong interface.  All guides say to point at /etc/sysconfig/dhcp and edit that file to add command line arguments to the initial script, but that file didn't exist on my system, and doesn't change the process when I restart it..  I could change the original startup script, but that seems a bit clunky.  Can anyone help?19:10
someprimetimehisto: did that.. drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4.0K Aug 31 08:24 public_html19:11
Neptuhisto: seems to work sometimes...19:11
T|T19:11
greatwarriorsince the existing hard disk space in ubuntu is insufficient, I want to add an empty drive from windows to ubuntu. So i opted for gparted, even i unmounted the drive which i want to add. But still i am not getting how to add to ext4.19:12
histosomeprimetime: yeah you are missing the default files.. copy them out of /etc/skel/  to your users home19:13
someprimetimehisto: thx19:13
someprimetimewill do19:13
ubuntumongolT19:15
internetN00bis it possible to have a single button in the menu bar in firefox as on windows 719:16
internetN00bright now the menu items all shows19:16
histosomeprimetime: you could do something like cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/someprimetime/   should copy the hidden files over19:16
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: hide the menu and it collapses into one19:16
someprimetimethat worked!19:17
someprimetimethx histo19:17
histosomeprimetime: or i guess a more proper solution would be cp -a /etc/skel/* /home/someprimetime  but either way19:18
luftikussWhat considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."19:18
internetN00bActionParsnip, thanks, worked19:19
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: np dude, great for small displays19:19
histosomeprimetime: ignore that last response that won't work19:19
internetN00bActionParsnip, I have a 1080p screen but it is a waste of space19:20
szalluftikuss: did you mean: "What does urxvt consider a 'resource'?"19:20
szalthat's a difference19:20
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: you can get 10" sreens with 1080P, doesn't mean much ;)19:20
luftikussszal: Yes.19:20
internetN00bActionParsnip, well, I am getting my 1440p screen soon :-)19:20
internetN00bpaid only 450 euros for it19:21
luftikussszal: The difference is only in grammar.19:21
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: sounds exciting.....19:21
internetN00bActionParsnip, yes :-) much much more space with a 1440p ips monitor19:22
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: what do you use your system for?19:22
internetN00bActionParsnip, programming19:22
someprimetimehmm for some reason on the new user i added to the admin group, it's not allowing them to write anything... e.g. keeps throwing this error when writing and quitting in vim: E138: Can't write viminfo file /home/someprimetime/.viminfo!19:23
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: ahh, makes sense19:23
szalluftikuss: no, it isn't..  your original question would imply that somethings considers urxvt a resource ;)19:23
ActionParsnipsomeprimetime: run:  sudo chown -R someprimetime:someprimetime /home/someprimetime19:23
histosomeprimetime: what are the permissions of their home directory and the .viminfo file?19:24
histosomeprimetime: ls -l /home19:24
roxinternetN00b: funny nick for a programmer19:24
luftikussszal: We could discuss that in more detail. But it would divert from the problem proper.19:24
internetN00brox, haha, yes :-)19:24
someprimetimedrwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep  1 19:21 someprimetime19:24
someprimetimeActionParsnip: thx i'll try that19:24
rohnwell today i bought an asus 1225c netbook and installed 11.1019:24
rohnbut i can not play hd video19:24
ActionParsnipsomeprimetime: it will make the folder and sub folders be owned by the user who's folder it is19:24
rohncan any one help me19:25
ActionParsniprohn: what video chip does it use?19:25
rohni am new to ubunyu19:25
histosomeprimetime: sudo chown -R someprimetime:someprimetime /home/someprimetime19:25
rohnubuntu19:25
rohni dont know19:25
rohnhow i know it??19:25
roxinternetN00b: i remember one of channel guidelines back from the old days in #debian it said "Don't bother telling us you are a newb or a noob. We can tell."19:25
someprimetimeActionParsnip && histo thanks that worked :)19:26
ActionParsniprohn: can you run:  lspci | grep -i vga      what is output?19:26
gordonjcprox: harsh, but totally reasonable19:26
histosomeprimetime: what did you do create a new user with a home on a mounted partition?19:26
someprimetimeappreciate it guys19:26
roxrohn: what happens when you want to play a video?19:26
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someprimetimehisto: i was on root and created a new user with useradd added them to the admin group then opened `visudo` and added them specifically to the bottom with someprimetime ALL=(ALL) ALL19:27
rohnit cannot palying after 2 seconds19:27
internetN00b!java19:27
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.19:27
ActionParsniprohn: what is the output of my command please19:27
roxrohn: explaining your problem in detail is a good thing, if you are trying to get somebody to help you. Tell us what is it you are trying to accomplish, what are your actions in your attempts to accomplish your goal, and lastly, what happens, when you perform your actions19:27
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   easier :)19:28
rohnrox, i am totaly new to ubuntu19:28
Merisback19:28
baizonwhy not using openjdk?19:28
rohni dont know what happnens19:28
roxrohn: did you try different cideo players?19:29
histosomeprimetime: you could have just added them to the sudo group on ubuntu and they would have sudo access19:29
rohnrox, i tried ubuntu and totem19:29
someprimetimehisto: ah should i change what i did and do that instead ?19:29
rohnboth are same19:29
roxrohn: ubuntu is not a video player19:29
rohnsorry vlc19:29
roxrohn: and they both do the same?19:30
rohnrox, yes19:30
internetN00bis it possible to edit png files on ubuntu?19:30
histosomeprimetime: doesn't matter either way it's just a default group and sudo setup in ubuntu. just add someprimetime to the sudo group and sudo visudo and remove the line you put in there.19:30
rohnmy net book is asus 1225c19:30
histointernetN00b: yes19:30
someprimetimeok cool thanks19:31
rohnActionParsnip, what is your command19:32
scarrsI need some help setting up proftp please... I am getting a login incorrect error, was working this morning help!19:32
ActionParsniprohn: can you run:  lspci | grep -i vga      what is output?19:32
roxrohn: do not paste it here, drop it in pastebin19:32
ActionParsnipits only one line, so its ok to paste here19:33
rohn00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Cedarview Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)19:33
ActionParsniprohn: have you considered using 12.04 rather than 11.10? Precise is LTS and has a later kernel, drivers and Xorg. May help19:34
someprimetimehisto: done thanks again19:34
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: edit in what way? Gimp is a great opensource graphics suite19:35
roxrohn: could you try to run your video player from a terminal, so maybe you could get some output from it?19:35
MerisIs there any way to adjust settings for nVidia GPU's from the command-line (propriatary driver)?19:36
rohnActionParsnip, at first i used 12.04 but there was a problem19:36
rohnin 12.04 there is a restricted driver called some drm driver19:37
internetN00bActionParsnip, problems most templates comes in png and psd formats :-(19:37
roxinternetN00b: gimp handles both, last i tried it19:37
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: png is fine19:37
ActionParsniprohn: the default intel driver should be ok19:37
rohnbut when i install it my netbook just hangs and screens gose black19:39
internetN00bwould be nice if Ubuntu ask me for my sudo password when I try to drag and drop a folder to a location where I don't have permission to write to19:39
gordonjcpinternetN00b: file a bug19:40
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: just run:  gksudo nautilus    and you can do as you wish19:40
gordonjcpinternetN00b: you're not wrong19:40
gordonjcpthat might be a nice thing to have19:40
ActionParsnipinternetN00b: its a sound idea19:40
MerisI agree19:40
internetN00bit is not a bug but a feature ;-)19:40
gordonjcpinternetN00b: get stuck in, contribute to Ubuntu19:40
gordonjcpinternetN00b: pfff, feature request then19:40
gordonjcpgo on19:41
gordonjcpDO EEEEET19:41
ActionParsnipget too tha chorpah19:41
gordonjcpsign up for Launchpad if you haven't already, fire off a feature request19:41
internetN00bI will do it later. need to setup my workspace first19:41
internetN00bis it free to sign up?19:41
gordonjcpthe worst that'll happen is the devs will point and laugh and tell you to go away19:41
gordonjcpyes, it is19:41
MerisinternetN00b:19:41
HenriqueGogsknow how to install Unity on Debian?19:41
morsnowskican't change permissions of executable file on fat32 partition any idea why that is? tried to sudo chmod, I don't get any error message but the permissions do not change19:41
internetN00bgordonjcp, that is what I am afraid of19:41
WarOfTheNerdHenriqueGogs, no, this is not #debian anyway19:42
internetN00ba lot of them are full of themself19:42
gordonjcpinternetN00b: tbh I'd take a look at it myself but my list of projects is too long as it is19:42
WarOfTheNerdHenriqueGogs, also it's a Canonical project for Ubuntu, why would you want it on Debian when there aren't any dedicated devs on the Debian team for it anyway?19:42
WarOfTheNerdinternetN00b: asking for a sudo password on copying to places without permission is a bad idea for multiple reasons.  The major one being sudo timeout will let a user foobar their system19:43
HenriqueGogsWarOfTheNerd, i just wanna try on my debian desktop, but thanks, I'm asking on #debian19:44
ActionParsnipHenriqueGogs: I'd ask in #debian19:44
internetN00bwarfaren, umm I don't see the problem19:45
internetN00bsudo should time out as soon as the job is done19:45
internetN00bnow I have to use the terminal to do the job19:45
gordonjcpinternetN00b: no, sudo remains active for a few minutes19:45
dieneshi19:45
gordonjcpie. you only need to put your password in once, and keep using sudo19:46
dienescan you help me for nokia unlocking?19:46
internetN00bgordonjcp, then use another method that ends as soon as the job is done?19:46
gordonjcpdienes: it's unlikely19:46
morsnowskican't change permissions of executable file on fat32 partition any idea why that is? tried to sudo chmod, I don't get any error message but the permissions do not change19:46
gordonjcpinternetN00b: for drag-and-drop onto folders?  You could do19:46
dienesgordonjcp: okok.. thanks a lot19:47
gordonjcpmorsnowski: mounted read-only, setting permissions that fat32 doesn't have?19:47
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morsnowskigordonjcp, try to set executable19:47
gordonjcpmorsnowski: fat32 is *always* executable19:47
rohnhow to hibernate machine in ubuntu??19:47
gordonjcpmorsnowski: the fat32 filesystem has no concept of "executable" so it's assumed to be always on19:47
morsnowskigordonjcp, for all i care i'd be happy with 777 but if I look at them they don't show executable19:48
gordonjcpmorsnowski: check how it's mounted19:48
morsnowskigordonjcp, ?19:48
gordonjcpmorsnowski: it's possible to mount a filesystem with noexec19:48
gordonjcpmorsnowski: what's the output of mount for that device?19:48
morsnowskigordonjcp, how would i check?19:48
morsnowskithanks19:49
ActionParsniprohn: its in the cog menu in the top right if memory serves?19:49
morsnowskigordonjcp, /dev/sdc1 on /media/XMIND type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)19:49
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gordonjcpmorsnowski: I'd have to pick through the man page for mount to interpret all that, and I'm busy19:50
gordonjcpmorsnowski: which is a polite way of saying "man mount" and "RTFM"19:50
gordonjcpmorsnowski: ;-)19:50
david__dose anyone know of a way to check and make sure my system in running healty and stable. Like dependencies test or libraries test ect....19:50
david__?19:50
cineadunity 2d is pretty sweet with vnc - 3d, not so much.19:50
rohnActionParsnip, there is only suspend and shut down19:50
gordonjcprohn: funny, it *was* there...19:51
BipulHellow my audio is not clear, it's cracking. how to fix it any one?19:52
netraamehtIs there a bash expert?19:52
ActionParsniprohn: try: sudo pm-hibernate19:52
netraamehtSomething is wrong in my code19:53
netraamehtAnd there is nobody in #bash talkin19:53
roxnetraameht: pm19:53
BipulHellow my audio is not clear, it's cracking. how to fix it any one?19:55
maximciao a tutti19:55
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luftikuss!sound | Bipul19:55
ubottuBipul: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.19:55
dakotaHey19:56
dakotaCan anyone here help me with a .net framework problem?19:56
luftikussdakota: Certainly. But you need to state it in detail.19:57
rohnActionParsnip, :(19:57
EspnuHey guys, got a simple question for you. How can i jump to a specific location, if i have the "adress"?19:58
svampociao19:58
Espnuin ubuntu's file manager19:58
trijntjeEspnu: ctrl + l19:58
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trijntjethen you can paste the path19:58
Espnucheers, so well hidden.. :p19:58
dakotaOkies well I'm trying to play starcraft 2 on ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. Currently I get this when I try to login. http://i.imgur.com/UJG5w.jpg Then when I try to download visual studio 2005 from wintricks I get this error.19:59
dakotahttp://imgur.com/ft6Ju19:59
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ishihi there!19:59
ishiwhere the (@#%@#$%) xorg.conf's gone? ;)20:00
Daekdroomishi, long gone.20:00
ishiwhy is it that *every time* I try to change X config, I struggle with it.20:00
internetN00bis there a good alternative to navicat for Ubuntu?20:00
ishiit's the most incomprehensible configuration system... and it must change daily :)20:00
ishiDaekdroom: well... how to I set default keybord layout now?20:01
ishi:)20:01
Daekdroomishi, it's (usually) not necessary anymore, and not used by default, but I think that if you do want to use it, it should be placed at /etc/X11/Xorg.conf20:01
ishiwell... to be honest... I don't care how the default keyboard is set... as long as it's set :)20:02
pustynnikovs20:02
ishiso if there is a 'bright and shiny new way' of doing this...  I'll gladly use it :)20:02
QuX_Hey, I recently got a VPS running 12.04 Server version. I installed ubuntu-desktop on it and rebooted. Now my question is, how could I run TeamViewer on that GUI and access it? I only managed to make a Xvfb server and connect to that for now.20:02
dakotaanyone?20:03
ishiDaekdroom: I tend to configure X something like every 2 or 3 years... ;)... I don't remember what's the xorg.conf format...  So... I could create one, yes, but I have no idea what to put there...  So, I might just as well learn (and forget) the new way :)20:03
guntbertinternetN00b: what is navicat?20:04
luftikussdakota: I'm interpreting this as follows: Net framework2.0 can only be installed on a 32-bit operating system. But yours is a 64-bit operationg system.20:04
Ripper00312.04 x86_64, package libexttextcat-data has an update available and yet I can't mark it in update manager to be upgraded?20:05
dakotaYeah is there a way to get in on 64 bit? I'm confused because I don't see why 64 bit would make a difference besides the way winetricks tries to download it20:05
internetN00bguntbert, a database tool, extremely handy tool20:06
ActionParsniprohn: does the command work?20:06
ActionParsnipdakota: did you check the appdb?20:06
dakotaYeah I didn't see anything on it.20:07
ActionParsnipRipper003: try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     is it smooth (close software centre first)20:07
luftikussdakota: I doubt that it will be available in 64 bit. The underlying mechanism to run a Windows program on a Linux (Ubuntu) machine is more complicated than you probably thought so far.20:07
ActionParsnipdakota: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1112320:08
ishiok, fsck it... I'll just add setxkbmap to my .xinitrc ;)20:08
dakotaWell I looked for running wine in 32-bit mode and they said it was pointless. I thought wine was just an emulator?20:08
ActionParsnipdakota: seems there is a reg fix you need. Have you seen that page?20:08
Ripper003ActionParsnip, yeah the action is smooth it just generates the report '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded'20:09
ActionParsnipdakota: wine stands for (w)ine (i)s (n)ot an (e)mulator20:09
luftikussdakota: wine is no emulator.20:09
ActionParsnipdakota: so no, its not an emulator20:09
dakotaoh. lmao my bad20:09
guntbertinternetN00b: have a look at http://www.osalt.com/navicat please20:09
dakotaUhh where is it? I'm looking..20:10
internetN00bguntbert, just did. trying out an alternative at the moment20:10
ActionParsnipdakota: you do realise there is a native spotify client? You don't need to run spotify via wine now, it integrates better to the OS20:10
dakotaOh really? lol I'm confused on how you know I'm running it on wine.. :O20:11
ActionParsnipdakota: because it doesn't have tux sat by it20:11
QuX_Hey, I recently got a VPS running 12.04 Server version. I installed ubuntu-desktop on it and rebooted. Now my question is, how could I run TeamViewer on that GUI and access it? I only managed to make a Xvfb server and connect to that for now.20:11
Ripper003ActionParsnip: yeah the action is smooth it just generates the report '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded'20:12
internetN00bguntbert, sadly Squirrel-sql does not work20:12
dakotaI'm so confused. lol sorry for my noobness.20:13
ishiQuX_: I seem to remember you asking this question already :).  Probably noone knows the answer to this.  For me, I don't have idea what VPS is, what 12.04 Servier is, not to mention I never heard of TeamViewer and have no clue as to what Xvfb is.20:14
dakotaokok I see what you mean by native spotify 1 sec20:14
ishiQuX_: oh... BTW, I know what 'ubuntu-desktop' is, but am not using it ;)20:14
dr_willisQuX_:  install a vnc server, run vncserver, and use a vnc client to connect to teh rem0te desktop. or use X forwarding20:15
guntbertinternetN00b: I just saw it is not in the repos - sorry then20:15
dr_willisNOT teamviewer.20:15
ActionParsnipdakota: echo "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list; gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.de.pgp.net --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E; gpg --export 4E9CFF4E |sudo apt-key add -; sudo apt-get install spotify-client20:15
dakotaYeah yeah I'm doing that now.20:15
ActionParsnipdakota: its a linux app, not a windows app20:16
ActionParsnipdakota: native20:16
dakotaI tried that last time and gave up20:16
dakotaI'll try it again now20:16
Ripper003would sudo add-apt-repository not do the same thing?20:16
ActionParsnipQuX_: what do you intend to do on the desktop once connected?20:16
QuX_Build and use an graphical application20:17
ActionParsnipQuX_: makes sense then :)20:17
dr_willisX forwarding can forward a single app to your local machines display20:17
dakotaOkay it's installing. But back to starcraft is there a way I can run it in 64-bit? If not I want to try setting the default boot to 64bit and having to do something else when trying to reboot to 32 bit. I don't like the grub waiting time20:18
luftikussQuX_: What do you mean by 'VPS'? 'Video_Program_System'?20:18
QuX_dr_willis: That sounds good. How to use it?20:18
dr_willisQuX_:  ssh to remote server. run the app....20:18
QuX_-X flag in ssh?20:19
err-or_QuX_: over ssh?20:19
dr_willisand if you got a local X server going.. it uses it..20:19
dr_willis-x and -X are totally differnt in SSh. ;)20:19
QuX_Ok, thanks.20:19
ActionParsnipdakota: I'd ask in #winehq too20:19
QuX_luftikuss: Virtual Private Server.20:19
dr_willis!ssh > QuX_20:19
ubottuQuX_, please see my private message20:19
dakotaokies20:19
luftikussQuX_: I see.20:20
Ripper003ActionParsnip: it looks like the package is being held back because it breaks something...20:20
ActionParsnipRipper003: then you will have to wait while the deps get satisfied in the repos20:21
F1CCCHi !! W4sp20:21
ActionParsnipRipper003: it will then be installable. If you have PPAs enabled which may conflict then I suggest you disable them20:21
Stimrol_does anyone know how to get flash to work in ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu-restricted is installed, have tried chrome, firefox and opera, and is always crash20:22
ryaoIs ther a quick way to do a headless install of Ubuntu?20:22
ActionParsnipryao: use the server install CD (or minimal) and install openssh-server    and you are good to go20:22
Ripper003ActionParsnip: I don't know, that might be a while since this upgrade seems to be released in Quantal atm and I'm using a 'Quantal' cycle kernel20:22
ActionParsnipStimrol_: can you please give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'20:23
ActionParsnipRipper003: then you will get issues as you are not using the official kernel20:23
ryaoActionParsnip: Thanks.20:23
ActionParsnipRipper003: the kernel from Quantal is not suitable for Precise20:23
ryaoActionParsnip: What makes it unsuitable?20:24
Ripper003ActionParsnip: god dammit lol20:24
ryaoAs long as the modules match the kernel, it should just work.20:24
ActionParsnipryao: it can break things, plus its an unofficial kernel so we have no idea of the options20:24
dr_willisunless of course other new software is using some differnt features of the other kernel....20:24
ActionParsnipryao: we cannot support unofficai packages here, it will work we just have no way of knowing how well20:25
dr_willisthat dident get included in the other kernel.20:25
Ripper003ActionParsnip: not 'suitable' or not 'advisable' because it is running a lot better on my laptop than 3.2/3 ever did20:25
dr_willisits a very much 'you are on your own' thing20:25
guntbertRipper003: read it as "untested" therefor "not supported"20:25
ActionParsnipRipper003: maybe but if you start slinging in 3rd party stuff, especially someting as crucial as the kernel. You are asking for trouble20:25
ryaoRipper003: You might like Gentoo Linux. It lets you do whatever you want with your kernel and the support is the same regardless.20:25
Stimrol_ActionParsnip: here you go --> http://pastebin.com/2LqvhbhN20:25
ActionParsnipStimrol_: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin    may help20:26
Ripper003ryao: 'You might like Gentoo Linux' har de har har that thing I would not touch with a 50yd pole20:26
err-or_Ripper003: i liket it ;)20:27
ActionParsnipRipper003: or install Quantal where the 3.5 kernel is fully supported20:27
err-or_like ^^20:27
Stimrol_ActionParsnip: already done that20:27
Ripper003err-or: I was tempted by Sabayon but I can never get used to GNOME3 and KDE is a big nono for me20:27
ActionParsnipStimrol_: then your output would have shown the adobe-flashplugin package20:28
ActionParsnipRipper003: you can install other desktops in those distributions afaik20:28
Stimrol_ActionParsnip: yes I have gone back again, it did not work20:29
Ripper003ActionParsnip: I've tried that on many distros and the cleanup afterwards is ridiculous, easier just to get the vanilla ISO20:29
ActionParsnipStimrol_: do you use addons like flashblock in your browser?20:29
ActionParsnipRipper003: could nistall ubuntu minimal, then install what you desire, rather than carve out what you dislike20:30
Stimrol_ActionParsnip: no this is a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04, just since earlier today20:30
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Ripper003ActionParsnip: I don't think Sabayon has a minimal and Gentoo vanilla would be suicide for me20:31
ActionParsnipRipper003: 'ubuntu minimal'  ubuntu does20:31
gordonjcpit's pretty minimal20:31
Ripper003naaah I need my fancypants shiny eyecandy20:32
gordonjcpRipper003: What exactly are you trying to do?20:32
ActionParsnipStimrol_: try:  mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/libflashplayer.so20:32
ActionParsnipRipper003: it installs a kernel, bootloader and package apps, you can then install all the worthless eyecandy you desire20:32
BluesKajStimrol_,,then copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins20:33
Ripper003gordonjcp: There's an update in the manager but it won't install because my edition is now tagged as 'Quantal' because I'm using an unofficial kernel version (I think)20:33
BluesKajBBL..BBQ needs attention20:33
err-or_Ripper003: what kind of error?20:33
ActionParsnipRipper003: yes, exactly. 3rd party stuff can give issues20:33
ActionParsnipRipper003: especially something like teh kernel20:33
amacare there any ati issues with 12.0420:34
Ripper003ActionParsnip: But teh kernel is niiiiiiiiice20:34
err-or_amac: ati is an issue ;)20:34
ActionParsnipRipper003: why do you need it?20:34
WeThePeoplehi20:34
amaci am thinking of buying an ati 6850. Does it work fine with 12.04?20:34
ActionParsnipamac: should be ok with proprietary drivers20:34
Ripper003Action-Parsnip: Far improved battery life, keyboard hard-keys are supported and less lag in some apps20:35
Ben64ati support has gotten a lot better the past year or so20:35
ActionParsnipRipper003: then I suggest you wipe Precise out and reinstall with Quantal20:35
amaci have no issues anymore with my netbook using fusion20:35
amacso I think I may try out ati now20:35
hermanlfanyone else using 12.04.1 x64 that has problems installing ubuntu one?20:35
Stimrol_ActionParsnip: and BluesKaj : ok tried it, did not work, I think my conclusion is that is is the graphic card20:35
roxbah, lxde is not my cup of tea, back to xfce20:35
gordonjcphermanlf: problems like what?20:35
Ripper003ActionParsnip: I'm no good at bug shooting/fixing/reporting so indev versions aren't happening ;P20:35
ActionParsnipRipper003: or you could reboot to the offiical kernel, run updates and then boot to the 3rd party kernel20:36
hermanlfdoesn't show me the error anymore but it said it has dependencies that can not be met and won't be installed.20:36
ActionParsnipRipper003: you have a kernel compiled with who knows what options by some guy from somewhere20:36
ActionParsnipRipper003: dosnt install much confidence does it20:36
hermanlfgordonjcp: This is a clean install too.20:36
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Ripper003ActionParsnip: I got it from PPA mainline here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/20:37
dr_willis!mainline20:37
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds20:37
ActionParsnipRipper003: or you can have the official ubuntu kernel compiled by the ubuntu kernel team at canonical20:37
gordonjcphermanlf: have you got any funny PPAs installed?20:37
Ripper003ActionParsnip: or I can have the one that works properly by downloading a few 'unofficial' packages20:38
ActionParsnipRipper003: I'd try teh reboot method to ghet updates but personally I'd report bugs with the official kernel20:38
hermanlfNope, just installed this OS.  However I did enable canonical partners.  Think that could be it?20:38
err-or_Ripper003: or compile your own :D20:38
gordonjcphermanlf: shouldn't be20:38
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ActionParsnipRipper003: or wipe Precise out and install Quantal pre-release20:38
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Ripper003ActionParsnip: or head over to a different distro camp that's rolling20:39
hermanlfgordonjcp, oh well, since this is a fresh install I'll try reinstalling the os and just going with defaults to see if it helps.20:39
SamizdatI cannot get wine to install at all on my 64 bit 12.0420:39
Stimrol_I have actually been thinking if I could fix this flash problem with going to 12.1020:39
dr_willisSamizdat:  how are you trying to install it?20:39
gordonjcphermanlf: well, before you try that, run the installer again and make a note of the errors *verbatim*20:39
guntberthermanlf: !pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client20:39
kieppiemorning all20:39
dr_willisStimrol_:  i just use the various flashreplacerplugins and flash-downloader tools. I rarely watch an actual flash video in flash these days20:39
Samizdatdr_willis:  Via synaptic, terminal or software center.20:40
dr_willisSamizdat:  so 'sudo apt-get install wine' gives what error?20:40
kieppieis it possible to to a remote CLI upgrade from 32 to 64 bit? I'm guessing not, but just wanna check20:40
dr_williskieppie:  you dont upgrade from 32bit to 64bit at all.20:40
ryaoripowen32: What is it that youa re trying to do?20:40
Samizdatdr_willis: ome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to b20:40
hermanlfgordonjcp, That was my plan, but I unfortantely closed the window with the errors.  To try and get the error back I tried reinstalling ubuntuone.  It didn't show me the error this time.  Only stalled.20:41
dr_willisYou do a clean install of 64bit os.20:41
Stimrol_thanks for the help people, will put my brothers comp. back to windows :)20:41
SamizdatI think so.20:41
gordonjcphermanlf: can you try something like "sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client" from a terminal?20:41
dr_willisSamizdat:  and you have done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently?20:41
hermanlfsure, lemee see20:41
SamizdatYeah.20:41
SamizdatAnd upgrade, dr_willis20:41
ryaoActionParsnip: The server install CD seems to use graphics mode. I am trying to install in QEMU using -curses. :/20:41
dr_willisSamizdat:  how about a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:41
SamizdatI'll try.20:42
gordonjcpryao: if you're going to use qemu, you may as well use KVM ;-)20:42
ryaogordonjcp: I am.20:42
kieppiehi ryao; trying to upgrade my bro's laptop. it's 64-bit hardware, but I noticed it only has 32-bit OS & packages installed.  dr_willis: that's my guess too20:42
hermanlfgordonjcp, hmm well it says it is installed: "ubuntuone-client is already the newest version."20:42
Samizdatdr_willis:  Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:42
gordonjcphermanlf: is it possible that it is actually working?20:42
dr_willisSamizdat:  so you are all updated. You could pastebin the exct output of 'sudo apt-get install wine'  it may give someone in here a clue20:43
err-or_Ripper003: maybe you could try out arch linux. its more bleeding edge.20:43
SamizdatSure.20:43
hermanlfbut the icon in unity is the one giving me the error20:43
gordonjcpryao: have you looked at ubuntu-vm-builder yet?20:43
ryaogordonjcp: No.20:43
hermanlfwhere can I set the login options for ubuntuone?20:44
Samizdathttp://pastebin.com/cQ4qrzpT20:44
SamizdatThat's it, dr_willis^20:44
guntberthermanlf: there is a special channel for ubuntu one problems: #ubuntuone20:44
SamizdatThing is, I don't think I have any broken packages.20:44
hermanlfk thanks20:44
Vyla2just a curiosity, the text editor called VI, how is spelled in the US?20:47
Vyla2like vu - eye ?20:47
dr_willis'vi'20:47
kieppie620:47
internetN00bGunni, just found out Netbeans can do mysql fine.. it support autocompletion for table names and column names etc20:47
internetN00b:-)20:47
dr_willisyou mean pronounced?20:47
Vyla2yep20:47
dr_willisVee-Eye20:47
dr_willis;)20:47
internetN00bbut netbeans on linux is still ugly as hell20:47
Vyla2great thanks :)20:47
dr_willis!info vigor20:47
ubottuvigor (source: vigor): nvi with the evil paperclip. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.016-18 (precise), package size 261 kB, installed size 631 kB20:47
guntbertinternetN00b: as long as it gets the job done - who cares what it looks like20:48
minimecinternetN00b: Well, you can change that ugliness... http://askubuntu.com/questions/21886/how-can-i-get-a-java-apps-to-use-the-gtk-theme20:49
dr_willisSamizdat:  do a apt-cache search wine and see if theres some other versions you could install.   could be the packages are just confiused in their names.20:49
dr_willisSamizdat:  or try the winehq ppa20:50
ryaoOkay, I am booting system rescue cd and doing a debootstrap install. Doing headless installs on Ubuntu the proper way is too complicated.20:52
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gordonjcpryao: that's basically what ubuntu-vm-builder does20:54
ryaogordonjcp: It doesn't appear that ubuntu-vm-builder is available on Gentoo.20:55
gordonjcpryao: o_O20:56
ryaogordonjcp: That is my host OS.20:56
gordonjcpoh, okay20:56
gordonjcpwell, if you're determined to make life hard for yourself...20:56
ryaoI am trying to do a homework assignment where Ubuntu is the reference environment. I don't feel like porting something that I won't care about ever again to Gentoo, so I am trying to install Ubuntu in a VM.20:57
gordonjcpwhy not just bung it on a USB stick and boot it?20:57
countleywhat is the best program for converting .mp4 to .mp3 in ubuntu please20:57
tonsofpcsso, anacron runs every 5 seconds or so (and logs itself in syslog)... is there any way to make this stop?20:57
ryaogordonjcp: My homework is develop part of an operating system.20:58
ryaogordonjcp: This is kernel programming. The build system depends on Ubuntu.20:58
gordonjcpryao: o_O20:58
gordonjcpryao: can you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please?20:58
ryaogordonjcp: Thanks, but I already know what I need to know. There is no easy way to install Ubuntu. :/20:59
zukirephello, I'm trying to figure out how to access the bootloader or whatever its called so that I can get into my windows partition20:59
brasshi all, how do I test opengl?20:59
gordonjcpryao: you probably don't need to20:59
dr_willis!grub2 | zukirep20:59
brassIE:  to see if it works? besides opening up a game or somethign that uses it.20:59
ubottuzukirep: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)20:59
tonsofpcsbrass: I was always a fan of tuxracer to test gl :)21:00
dr_williszukirep:  normally it sees and adds windws entries to the grub menu21:00
gordonjcpryao: there's also an incredibly easy way to do what you want, and that's just boot into a live environment off a USB stick ;-)21:00
tonsofpcs!anacron21:00
zukirepdr_willis kk21:00
BluesKajryao, you're sadly mistaken .lots of ppl new to linux install ubuntu successfully everyday21:00
brassrecent install of xubuntu.   as in, about a week ago.  nothing opengl is working.21:00
gordonjcpryao: furthermore, there's no practical difference between Gentoo and Ubuntu21:00
gordonjcpryao: they're both Linux21:00
dr_willisbrass:  amd upir videocard is? what what drivers is it using?21:00
rockyguys21:01
tonsofpcsbrass: cvideo card? drivers?21:01
zukirepdr_willis, I've actually used bootrepair already and it didnt seem to help me get into the grub boot menu21:01
dr_willisbrass:  and your. videocard is? what what drivers is it using?21:01
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rockycan i get ituens software in ubuntu?21:01
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rockycan i get itunes software in ubuntu?21:01
tonsofpcsrocky: I don't believe so.21:01
minimecbrass: for basic chek: 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils' then 'export vblank_mode=0', 'then glxgears' All that in a terminal21:01
dr_williszukirep:  you SEE the grub menu? last i looked boot-repair set it to not-auto hide.. or you hold theshift key as you boot21:01
zukirepdr_willis also, when I hold left shift, it doesnt do anything either although my monitor loses connection with the computer for a little while21:01
ryaogordonjcp: I'll try using a chroot and see how that goes.21:01
gordonjcprocky: no, and it doesn't play nice with Wine either21:01
gordonjcpryao: I doubt you even need to go as complex as that21:01
Guest44164I have a squid on ubuntu question, when can i ask it21:02
rockyTonisius, http://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/introduction-to-algorithms/id341597754 this is the site says view in itunes, oops back to windows then21:02
dr_williszukirep:  grub is using a res your monitor dosent like. set itto use the TEXT based grub menu in /etc/default/grub21:02
brassnvidia:  using the "additional Drivers" dialog. I've selected the last one (post-release updates)21:02
gordonjcpryao: but #ubuntu-offtopic is a more appropriate place to discuss it, and you've piqued my interest now21:02
minimecbrass: ... or just 'glxinfo' after having installed mesa-utils...21:02
zukirepdr_willis ok, will do21:02
brassgive me a minute, and I'll tell you my card.21:02
gordonjcp!ask | Guest4416421:02
ubottuGuest44164: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:02
brassmesa-utils?  ok21:02
rockyTonisius, gordonjcp thank you gus for responding21:02
dr_willisbrass:  try the reccomended drivers? i dont recall post-reelase ever working for me.21:02
elijahHey guys, what is ^A ?21:03
gordonjcprocky: proprietary rubbish is annoying ;-)21:03
zukirepdr_willis, btw should by grub_default = 0?21:03
Guest44164squid proxy working, but i want transparent proxy, tried several howtos no luck need some advise with my setup21:03
brassI tried "recomended" first.21:03
WeThePeoplecountly, sound converter in the software center21:04
rockygordonjcp, got you i won'try then21:04
WeThePeoplecountley, see above21:04
gordonjcprocky: <cough>bittorrent<cough>21:04
dr_williszukirep:  that defaults to the first item in the grub menu.. so yes.21:04
elijah^A I am thinking it is ctrl + a but it isn't working so I am not sure if my .tmux.conf file is loading or not21:04
brassname of display: :0.021:04
brassX Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)21:04
brass  Major opcode of failed request:  138 (NV-GLX)21:04
brass  Minor opcode of failed request:  4 ()21:04
brass  Resource id in failed request:  0x400000321:04
FloodBot1brass: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:04
brass  Serial number of failed request:  3321:04
guntbertGuest44164: if you don't get your answer here, ask in #squid21:05
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err-or_Guest44164: where is your squid running?21:06
brassVideo card:   Gigabyte GeForce 6800GS21:06
musclemanerr-or what do you mean21:07
trismelijah: what are you trying to do? ctrl+b is the default escape for tmux, but: set -g prefix C-a; unbind-key C-b; bind-key C-a send-prefix; (replacing ; with a newline) in .tmux.conf switches it to ctrl+a21:07
brassVideo card:   Gigabyte GeForce 6800GS21:08
err-or_muscleman: on which machine is squid running? on a random box in your network on on the gateway to to the internet?21:08
musclemanits running on 12.04 lts, behind a router21:08
elijahtrism: I copied the default conf file and inside it is not C-a but ^A, I am wondering what ^A means. The default conf file overrides Ctrl-b21:08
trismelijah: default from where?21:09
musclemani have eth1 to wlan, eth0 to lan21:09
sharedoes the new java 7 security problem affects jre7-openjdk-7.u7 ?21:09
shareaffect*21:09
elijahtrism: /usr/share/doc/tmux/examples/screen-keys.conf21:10
trismelijah: oh I see one in /usr/share/doc/tmux/examples/, yeah I guess ^A is the same, though mine .tmux.conf has C-a21:10
err-or_muscleman: imho it can't be used on a random machine as transparent proxy. how should the box to be proxied know about it? all the traffic is going straight to your router...21:10
aidanjtshare: no, only oracle and IBM's binaries21:10
elijahtrism: Yorokobi on #tmux just told me how to source the new file though, it works and it appears ^A is Ctrl-a21:11
shareaidanjt: are you sure? thanks :)21:11
aidanjtshare: double checked: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=85205121:11
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 852051 in vulnerability "CVE-2012-4681 OpenJDK: beans insufficient permission checks, Java 7 0day (beans, 7162473)" [Urgent,New]21:11
err-or_muscleman: personally i use a router / firewall like pfsense. there you can setup all the proxying stuff you like. you could use router - pfsense - all the other machines.21:12
err-or_pfsense is a 'distro' no package to install.21:13
err-or_but if you want to use your proxy machine as firewall and proxy (only) etc...  go further21:13
internetN00bI am glad I switched back to Ubuntu :-)21:15
musclemanthis is my first ubuntu distro, been using fedora but had booting, installation issues. ubuntu is nice outta the box21:16
err-or_muscleman: why do you need transparent proxy? maybe there is a solution easily to setup21:17
err-or_are there many boxes to proxy?21:18
musclemanthats the silly thing, only one box21:18
err-or_your own box? ;)21:18
musclemanso i could stop configuring and call it done, but in the spirit of gaining knowledge i decided to try transparent approach21:19
err-or_why you need it? caching windows updates or something?21:19
musclemanno this is for a business, they have a computer that uses browser for logging in members21:19
err-or_what kind of router your using?21:19
musclemanproblem is clerk likes to browse internet too, and gets viruses21:20
countleyok ill try it21:20
musclemanso they asked me to block everything but one site21:20
musclemanso i have that working now, just alter my acl in squid.21:20
musclemanit's a netgear 83421:20
err-or_you've herad from dansguardian?21:21
err-or_heard21:21
gordonjcpyeah, I was about to say, dansguardian is a better fit there21:21
musclemani seen it mentioned in several articals21:21
togocan someone help me not able to watch cnn live video using ubuntu 12.0421:21
musclemani mean this is working, just i will have to implement some group policies on the winxp box so connection cannot be altered. and manually add the proxy address21:22
pieroHi! I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a problem with my hdmi audio througt my amd radeon 6000 series (proprietary fglrx driver installed by jockey). Some times it works, sometimes hdmi doesnt appear in audio properties (not detected??). Someone can show me the light?21:22
musclemanboy oh boy, linux has come along way since i first installed debian nearly 20 years ago.21:23
gordonjcpmuscleman: just a bit21:24
musclemani thought i was quite the geek running in console, and then getting x window to start.21:24
musclemanlol21:24
musclemansorry off topic21:25
Espen_Having a problem with media keys on spotify, read it should've been fixed already. But is it a spotify issue or ubuntu issue?21:25
Espen_http://i.imgur.com/XIEDH.png21:25
togocan someone help me not able to watch cnn live video using ubuntu 12.0421:25
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err-or_muscleman: the descritpion of the router says its usable to restrict internet access. but i don't know how and how far this goes.21:26
SamizdatWhy would you want itunes in ubuntu?21:26
SamizdatWhoops21:26
err-or_muscleman: maybe the router could do the stuff you want to do.21:26
dtmbmw325ihello everyone21:26
octane--anyone know how to view command line history for a specific user?21:27
err-or_muscleman: winxp machine is connected wired?21:27
ActionParsnipEspen_: its te ubuntu client issue. Do the keys work in other apps ok?21:28
ActionParsnipoctane--: less /home/username/.bash_history21:28
octane--ahh thank you!21:28
ActionParsniphi dtmbmw325i21:28
dtmbmw325iIs it normal for ubuntu with unity to use 1GB of Ram? I have 8GB but am wondering if the RAM usage is normal21:28
ActionParsnipdtmbmw325i: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; free -m21:29
dtmbmw325ihello ActionParsnip21:29
zykotick9ActionParsnip: my "history" and my ~/.bash_history don't match??? odd.21:29
err-or_muscleman: k, that sounds good to me. so xp box is connected wired to the ubuntu box with squid, every other machine connects directly to the wireless router. so you *can* set up transparent proxy. on the ubuntu machine21:30
dtmbmw325iActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/Q1Sri34f21:31
krumplihi, i am unable to put utf8 characters in a mysql 5.1 database. what is wrong?21:31
err-or_muscleman: then lets figure out why transparent proxying isn't working. but still dansguardian would be a guess21:31
Espen_@ActionParnsnip it works with rhythmbox21:31
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dr_willis!ram | dtmbmw325i21:34
ubottudtmbmw325i: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html21:34
zykotick9Espen_: fyi IRC != identica/twitter, no need for @21:34
dr_willis@'s mean somthing totally differnt on IRC.21:34
err-or_muscleman: http_port 3128 transparent in squid.conf and iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128  to redirect all traffic to squid21:35
Espen_alright :)21:35
lonejackthe update manager propose to pass to 12.04. During this upgrade, my data or directories like /opt(where I've some packages) will be cleaned(ore removed)?21:35
err-or_muscleman: edit to your needs21:35
KeybladmasterHallo21:37
KeybladmasterBin Neu21:37
dtmbmw325idr_willis: isn't that saying that 1330 of my ram is being used?21:37
KeybladmasterWTF21:37
gordonjcpdtmbmw325i: you want to have quite a bit of RAM used21:38
err-or_keyblademaster: ubuntu-de ;)21:38
gordonjcpdtmbmw325i: no point having it if it's not being used21:38
zykotick9dtmbmw325i: it says 1330 of your ram is being used for buffering21:39
dr_williseverytime someone comes into this channel worrying about ram.. its from their 'windows' training which dosent apply to linux. ;)21:39
dtmbmw325igordonjcp, I use it when running virtualbox machines just not all of the time. My computer would get incredibly slow sometimes when it's not doing anything. I thought the high ram usage might be to blame21:39
zykotick9dtmbmw325i: 4825 total ram is being used21:40
dtmbmw325idr_willis, I will agree. I do come from a major windows background21:40
dtmbmw325idr_willis, zykotick9  does my output say what my applications are using or is there a way to find out?21:41
zykotick9dtmbmw325i: free memory is wasted memory ;)21:42
jasonbourneneed some wireless help if available....21:42
zykotick9dtmbmw325i: read the atemyram link for more info21:43
aidanjtdtmbmw325i: start the gnome system monitor and arrange processes by memory21:43
histo!ask | jasonbourne21:43
ubottujasonbourne: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:43
gordonjcpdtmbmw325i: could be a lot of things; could be heavy disk usage21:43
Squall5668even windows uses superfetch nowadays, it just doesn't report it to the task manager (iirc)21:43
dtmbmw325izykotick9, but too much memory can indicate a memory hog. Which is something that is worrying me since my computer is slow sometimes21:43
zykotick9dtmbmw325i: if MOST of your RAM is used, then your system WILL be slow21:43
zykotick9dtmbmw325i: VMs that reserve big chunks of memory would certainly slow your system21:44
jasonbourneubottu - I totally understand but I didn't want to just jump in first without being polite...21:44
ubottujasonbourne: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:44
histodtmbmw325i: when you start a vm and give it lets say 512mb of ram it will reserve that much ram.21:44
dtmbmw325izykotick9, but thats not when my system gets incredibly slow21:44
dtmbmw325iI would understand that21:44
jasonbourneI just installed Ubuntu 12.04LTS on my HP laptop and cannot remember how to get my wireless running...21:44
ActionParsnipjasonbourne: what wifi chip?21:45
histojasonbourne: what type of wireless card do you have?  can you type lspci in a terminal and see what chipset it uses21:45
dtmbmw325ihisto, I understand that. I am here asking the question because my computer sometimes gets randomly slow. Nothing hardware or ram intensive running at the time and I see what looks like a lot of ram being used21:46
jasonbournethat's what I'm trying to figure out...the chipset...I just don't remember the commands to get that info...21:46
ActionParsnipdtmbmw325i: is the ram healthy?21:46
jasonbournehisto - thanks...I'll try that...21:46
dtmbmw325iActionParsnip, the computer works fine otherwise. I do use windows 7 at times because certain programs I need for school require it and don't work well in a vm environment21:47
dtmbmw325iActionParsnip, I will double check it though21:48
jasonbournehisto - this is what it says: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)21:48
papnaI closed totem a few minutes ago, but the internet stream I was playing is still playing.21:50
ActionParsnip!broadcom21:50
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx21:50
nv!adi21:51
jasonbourneubottu - thanks!!21:51
cbx33hey peeps21:52
Tyranushi21:53
hp__hello all....xoxox21:54
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Tyranuscan i ask a question here?21:57
zykotick9!ask | Tyranus21:57
ubottuTyranus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:57
Tyranuswhich notebooks do you guys use with ubuntu? any recommendation?21:58
zykotick9!hcl | Tyranus21:58
ubottuTyranus: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection21:58
graingert!botabuse | graingert22:00
ubottugraingert, please see my private message22:00
zykotick9graingert: did you just get the !msgthebot factoid automatically?22:00
graingertzykotick9: yes22:01
graingerty22:01
kyporhello. Just set up Ubuntu 12.10. Is there a way to install the ATI driver?22:01
zykotick9graingert: cool22:01
zykotick9kypor: reask in #ubuntu+122:01
graingertI just wanted to check what happened on highlight with this app22:01
AreckxThis might helps someone. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1180472/ Did I do this correctly?22:02
kyporthanks22:02
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AreckxIt took 25 gb, but is installing all of the libs like that a good idea?22:04
AreckxI couldn't figure out what happened to my machine and couldn't find a fix, so I just said to myself, "If I install all of the libs it will probably work better and then I'll take it from there if problems persist."22:05
gloomerthere is no reason you should need to install 25gb of libs22:06
musclemanhow do i remove the guest login22:06
aidanjtAreckx: http://gourgi.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/re-install-ubuntu-desktop-metapackage-and-reinstall-its-dependencies/ that would have reinstalled the libraries for you22:07
aidanjtmuscleman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html22:08
histo!broadcom | jasonbourne22:08
ubottujasonbourne: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx22:08
musclemanthanks22:08
Areckxaidanjt::  thanks, do you think I should do that anyway?22:08
jasonbourneubottu - thanks...I think I got it working now....22:08
ubottujasonbourne: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:08
graingertmuscleman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html22:08
histojasonbourne: can you plug an ethernet wire in and download the packages you need there.  Or you can use the offline method22:08
histojasonbourne: Oh sorry I had the bot send you the message I was away for awhile glad to hear you got it working22:09
aidanjtAreckx: naw, it would only bog down the filesystem.. just let the package manager handle libraries22:09
jasonbournehisto - no problem...gonna go wireless now and see if everything is ok...22:09
graingertaidanjt: bog down the filesystem?22:09
Areckxaidanjt::  ok, reinstalling now22:09
aidanjtgraingert: eat up inodes and space needlessly, increase btree lookup and application load times etc..22:12
mgjI was trying to forward port 22 to a new ubuntu box. I have done this many times before, but not on this particular kind of router. Anyway, i ran 'nmap <wan-ip>', and port 22 was not displayed (i assume this means its state is CLOSED) - But when i did the port forward, port 22 showed up in FILTERED state. Can someone explain this to me? Why would it show up as filtered?22:13
Areckxaidanjt::  I hope this make my workspace run more efficienty22:13
mgjUbuntu does not have SELinux or similar, in which i need to allow ssh, correct?22:13
Areckxport 22 is used to SSH into jailbroken iPhone22:14
Areckxit is legal22:14
mgjwhat22:14
Areckxmight give someone a better idea as to how to address his question22:14
Areckxmg_::  your question**22:15
aidanjtmgj: a similar technology, apparmor, but it should come with an ssh profile22:15
Areckxmg_::22:15
Areckxmgj::22:15
gordonjcpmgj: is ssh actually running on the box you're trying to connect to?22:15
mgjgordonjcp, yes, can access it locally without a problem22:15
mgjaidanjt, oh... do i need to actually touch apparmor though? I have done this with earlier ubuntu's, it wasnt a requirement on those22:15
mgjusing 12.04 on the box22:16
aidanjtmgj: I've never had to22:16
mgjactually when i think about it that cannot be the case22:16
mgjwhen i can ssh to it from lan22:16
aidanjtmgj: routing/firewall problem perhaps?22:16
mgjIts a very simple home network. Router -> switch -> ubuntu box22:16
mgjthere is only 1 router i can configure. A traceroute to google agrees22:17
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raphaelmichaelHello fellows22:17
mgj1st hop is the router, and then it goes to the web22:17
raphaelmichaelMy PC is hacked...22:17
curtismHello, I am looking to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo IdeaPad U41022:17
raphaelmichaelI am trying to solve this problem for 2 years22:17
dr_willisgee.. i would think  you would have reinstalled bynow..22:18
raphaelmichaelI hire a bunch of peoples and no one could solve the problem22:18
bekksraphaelmichael: You have a box thats hacked for two years now? :)22:18
mgjaidanjt, nmap manfile says "FILTERED" state means : Filtered means that a firewall, filter, or other network obstacle is blocking the port.... But how can it go from CLOSED to FILTERED, by forwarding the port? Makes no sense to me22:18
curtismI want to keep the W7 install around22:19
raphaelmichaelI do not understand22:19
raphaelmichaelBox?22:19
curtismHow should I go about this and find out if everything is supported22:19
aidanjtmgj: yeah that shouldn't happen, but I guess the router is bugging on you22:19
raphaelmichaelVirtualBox?22:19
dr_willisclosed means theres no  reply from the port at all.. vs filtered where its sent back a 'rejected'  message?22:19
bekksraphaelmichael: box == a computer.22:19
raphaelmichaelYes friend...22:19
mgjaidanjt, i need to find out why.... but im not sure how22:20
raphaelmichaelSomeone from Brazil?22:21
aidanjtmgj: depends on what router you have, I'd help further but it's pretty late now22:21
jasonbourneubottu - you still around??22:21
ubottujasonbourne: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:21
mgjaidanjt, thanks for your help so far anyway.... maybe you'll help me more some other day if i dont get this solved22:22
jasonbourneubottu - your a real comedian...22:22
ubottujasonbourne: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:22
raphaelmichaelI need someone to help with my computer. It's hacked.22:22
jasonbourneubottu - thanks for your help...wireless is working...22:22
raphaelmichaelMiguel Valentin, where are u from dude?22:23
dtmbmw325ijasonbourne,  you do know that is a bot right?22:23
raphaelmichaelMy Twitter @raphaelmichael22:23
raphaelmichaelHacked22:23
aidanjtmgj: no problem.. try poking around google with keywords about your problematic router, never know what you stumble on22:23
jasonbournedtmbmw325i - no I didn't...22:24
jasonbournebut thanx...22:24
raphaelmichaelSomeone from France?22:24
jasonbournewireless is working now...22:24
dtmbmw325iawesome!22:24
raphaelmichaelI am from Brazil...22:24
mgjaidanjt, i have already, i can only find basic posts for "go to 'port forward' -> apply port", noone mentioning any issues so far. Anyway, thanks for your help, i wont keep you from sleeping :)22:24
jasonbournehaven't been on this channel in a very long time...22:24
bekksraphaelmichael: Which computer? Your computer at home?22:24
raphaelmichaelbekks : I have 5 computers in a same connection... I think that the connection.. (network) is hacked22:25
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - what makes you think so??22:25
raphaelmichaelbekks : My Twitter is hacked too. My life is a living hell, friend.22:25
curtismCan I find someone to help me install Ubuntu on a Lenovo IdeaPad U410?22:26
jasonbournesuggest you install Wireshark and start there...22:26
jasonbournecurtism - Google it...might be faster...22:26
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : Because files are changed.. the google research is adultered22:26
curtismjasonbourne: There is nothing useful22:26
mgjIf 'nmap <ip>' does not output port 22, its means the state of 22 is CLOSED, correct?22:26
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : Youtube...22:26
jasonbournecurtism - ok...guess you tried that already...22:27
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - try Wireshark...22:27
raphaelmichael raphaelmichael [c9194e39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.25.78.57] has joined #voce_so_pode_estar_brincando22:27
raphaelmichaelWTF FRIENDS?!22:27
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - if your trying to find the cause that is...22:27
raphaelmichaelThe hacker is make a joke with me22:28
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - re-install??22:28
raphaelmichaelI try ti reinstall Jason...22:28
raphaelmichaelLook...22:28
curtismOkay maybe if I ask something more specific...22:29
matts45acpcan someone help me with my ubuntu server22:29
curtismFirst problem: Touchpad does not work22:29
raphaelmichaelhas joined #voce_so_pode_estar_brincando MEANS ... you_must_be_kidding22:29
jasonbournecurtism - understandable....although I hate touchpads...22:29
curtismThat's really nice for you22:29
wilee-nileematts45acp, This channel is a state your problem, if someone knows they will answer. :)22:29
curtismDoesn't help22:29
jasonbournecurtism - there must be drivers though...22:29
raphaelmichaelIf someone wants to hack my computer.. be my guest22:30
jasonbournecurtism - sorry...not trying to be an ass...22:30
jasonbournebut that doesn't sound too complicated...someone here should know the procedures...22:30
matts45acpi have installed ubuntu 12.04 server on an old desktop and now wanna know how to access that computer over my network using the computer that im using22:30
jasonbournecurtism - have you tried the support forums for Ubuntu...22:31
curtismI have tried #ubuntu22:31
raphaelmichaelI want to know the best program to protect my network... ?22:31
nvsetup a samba share22:31
jasonbournecurtism - ok...22:31
curtismI bet if I asked on the forums they'd ask if I tried #ubuntu22:31
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - AppArmor??22:31
raphaelmichaelnv : are u talking to me?22:31
nvwerent u just inviting hackers in?22:31
wilee-nileecurtism, Hardly I never see that there.22:32
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : SELinux is better? I dont know22:32
jasonbournecurtism - just state that in your post that you came here first...22:32
jasonbourneSELinux is hardened...so you might want to try that...22:32
raphaelmichaelYes22:32
raphaelmichaelI am making a invitation22:32
raphaelmichaelPlease.. be my guest in my computer22:32
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - no thanks...lol...22:33
jasonbourneI have enough troubles of my own...22:33
jasonbournehehehehe...22:33
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : 100 bucks? No joke22:33
raphaelmichaelLol !!!22:33
jasonbourneHA!!!22:33
raphaelmichaelLol !!!22:33
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - just do a re-install...22:33
jasonbournemight be easier that way...22:33
raphaelmichaelThe mdoglio IS HACKING MY PC !!!22:34
raphaelmichaelNo joke guys !!!!22:34
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - setup a honeypot on another machine to trap the person....22:34
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : I do not understand a thing.. do u have e-mail?22:34
raphaelmichael100 bucks. No joke.22:34
matts45acpi have installed ubuntu 12.04 server on an old desktop and now wanna know how to access that computer over my network using the computer that im using22:35
jasonbournesorry not giving that out here...22:35
raphaelmichaelNo problem22:35
raphaelmichaelHow i setup a honeypot?22:35
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - Google it...22:35
nvinstall windows and plug it into the internet22:35
jasonbournenv - Good one!!22:35
jasonbournenv - you mean Windoze!!22:36
bekksraphaelmichael: Do you have any proof of someone hacking your PC?22:36
raphaelmichaelYes... bekks22:36
bekksSo share that proof then.22:36
raphaelmichaelI need someone to produce the proof..22:36
jasonbournebekks - I know...sounds suspicious to me also...22:36
aguiteli am in 10.04 when i make last upgrade it say:The following packages have been kept back:22:37
nvhe saw the welcome message from the bot and thinks its a hacker22:37
aguitel  libexttextcat-data ,why this ?22:37
raphaelmichaelTeach how make the prorf22:37
raphaelmichaelI am here because i dont know22:37
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - then install Wireshark22:37
bekksraphaelmichael: Ok, so you dont have any proof until now.22:37
SamizdatHey, I can't install an x86 packages.22:37
raphaelmichaelNo bekks.. but I want22:37
raphaelmichaelI need..22:37
nvthat would do as much good as telling him to install snort22:37
raphaelmichaelI try to install snort22:37
SamizdatSomeone said something about multiarch22:37
raphaelmichaeland appear: THIS WEBSITE IS NOT SECURE22:37
bekksraphaelmichael: Why do you think your computer is being hacked for two years now?22:38
raphaelmichaelbekks : Personal revenge22:38
levanderHe must have very interesting computer for someone to spend that long hacking it...22:38
raphaelmichaelMy twitter @raphaelmichael22:38
raphaelmichaelYes22:38
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - personal revenge?? then you must know who did it....22:38
bekksraphaelmichael: Well. A twitter account is not your PC.22:38
raphaelmichaelI do not understand too.. I think someone pay a company to hack me22:38
raphaelmichaelcheck my twitter and my name22:39
bekksLOOOL.22:39
raphaelmichaelmaybe u understand22:39
raphaelmichaelLollllllllllllllll22:39
xanguaraphaelmichael: stop that please22:39
raphaelmichaelxangua : why?22:39
nvi recommend raph, that you pick yourself up a computer manual and start reading.22:40
raphaelmichaelThankz Nv22:40
raphaelmichaelSomeone here know the xangua?22:40
raphaelmichaelI dont22:40
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - not much we can do here except provide suggestions...and considering you say it's personal revenge then you must know who it is..22:41
graingertraphaelmichael: This isn't the right channel for you22:41
raphaelmichaelI know who is.. but if i talk i am dead22:41
raphaelmichaelno joke dude22:41
levanderwhy would they hack your PC for so long?22:42
jasonbournehow much Linux experience you have raphaelmichael??22:42
aguiteli am in 10.04 when i make last upgrade it say:The following packages have been kept back:  libexttextcat-data ,why this ?22:42
graingert!offtopic | raphaelmichael22:42
ubotturaphaelmichael: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:42
raphaelmichaelgraingert : Says who?22:42
raphaelmichaelYes. i do not understand why someone will spend two years in my pc22:42
raphaelmichaelu make a right question22:42
graingertaguitel: is 10.04 still supported22:42
aguitelgraingert, yes22:42
raphaelmichaeli am here because i dont have any place to go22:42
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - how much Linux/Unix experience you have??22:42
zykotick9graingert: for a few more months <1 year for sure22:43
raphaelmichaeli need help of u guys22:43
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : few... Just know how to install..22:43
graingertraphaelmichael: please leave, you are severly off topic22:43
levanderraphaelmichael: buy a router, connect to the internet through that, all consumer grade routers have firewalls these days, that's all you need to know22:43
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - how long is a few??22:43
raphaelmichaeljasonbourne : 1 year..22:44
graingertaguitel: if you install them directly then it will tell you why22:44
graingertaguitel: sudo apt-get install libexttextcat-data22:44
raphaelmichaelgraingert Make me. Make me. Make me.22:44
md_5this is embarrassing, stupid sun java set my default java to itself and I can't get openjdk6 back as the default, tried reinstalling it, now don't jave default-java folder22:44
aguitelgraingert, ok22:44
raphaelmichaelLolllllllllllllllllllllll22:44
graingertmd_5: uninstall sun java?22:44
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - taunting the Sysops and other personnel here will get you banned...22:44
md_5graingert already did22:45
graingertuhhhhhhhhh22:45
md_5Now I dont have /usr/lib/jvm/default-java22:45
md_5and update laternatives doesnt seem to want to make it22:45
raphaelmichaelSorry guys..22:45
graingert+b+b+b+b+b22:45
AreckxJust restarded22:45
Areckxrestarted22:45
Areckxlmao22:45
jasonbourneraphaelmichael - this is a support channel...if support is unable to help you then you need to research other options...22:45
raphaelmichaelgraingert : are u talk to me? are u talk to me? are u talk to me?22:45
wbwbwbwbIs there an aircrack channel on freenode? 18:44:53  Waiting for beacon frame (BSSID: xxxxxxxxxx) on channel -118:44:53  mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 6... I can't set the channel to 6... for some reason.22:45
raphaelmichaelLol22:45
raphaelmichaelOk I understand22:46
raphaelmichaelYou couldnt do nothing. Thankz22:46
graingertMyrtti: raphaelmichael +kb22:46
raphaelmichaelDo not blame a guy for try22:46
enriqhi, I need to ls a directory to list all files zzz.mp4 which there is not zzz.flv22:47
raphaelmichaelenriq : Please leave. Its not a support channel22:47
ApwbdjpWbwbwbwb, that's probably a disobedient network controler (you often need proper drivers for this), mine stayed locked on -1, before I installed the right module22:47
raphaelmichaelThank you22:47
bekksSomeone please quiesce that guy finally.22:47
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Myrttiraphaelmichael: stop it22:47
md_5update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for java_vm.22:47
raphaelmichael@Myrtti Sorry.22:48
graingertenriq: *.mp422:48
samuel____hello guys22:48
aguitelgraingert, when i try to install libexttextcat-data ,later say to remove all libreoffice22:48
graingert!question | samuel____22:48
Apwbdjpmd_5, did you try removing/reinstalling openjdk?22:48
ubottusamuel____: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:48
aknewhopesomeone please mention my name. testing nick highlighting in new irc client. thanks22:49
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md_5Apwbdjp yeah I did22:49
graingertaknewhope: no22:49
Jordan_U!test | aknewhope22:49
ubottuaknewhope: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )22:49
graingertakgraner: not in this channel, try #freenode22:49
samuelok......22:49
aknewhopegraingert, ubottu, Jordan_U: Thanks22:49
raphaelmichaelWhat is the most security SO?22:50
Apwbdjpmd_5 that's what I did, when gcj took openjdk's place, and it has worked..22:50
md_5Apwbdjp removing all jdk's22:50
samuelis it possible to re-add a disk to a raid array without rebuilding?22:50
graingertraphaelmichael: try google22:50
samuelalso without unmounting the array?22:50
md_5update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/appletviewer to provide /usr/bin/appletviewer (appletviewer) in auto mode.22:50
md_5Apwbdjp main thing I need is the default-java folder back22:50
samuelraid 522:50
raphaelmichaelgraingert : Thankz Larry Paige22:50
samuelmdadm --add always rebuilds the disk, I need to just add it but can't add it on startup22:51
* samuel thanks dlink22:51
ApwbdjpI hope someone else can help you md_5, I'm on a phone now, I cant even try or google..22:51
ApwbdjpSorry22:51
md_5Apwbdjp now gcj has taken its place, I'll remove that as well22:51
matts45acpcan someone tell me how to install a virtual machine on my seperate ubuntu server22:52
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raphaelmichaelsamuel : Lol22:52
raphaelmichael__Cobbra__BR : Fala amigo!22:52
lidarmatts45acp: virtual machine or virtual host in apache ?22:52
brasscan someone help me with opengl?22:52
samuelraphaelmichael: you had the same problem?22:52
graingertbrass: #opengl ?22:52
brassI have xubuntu, nvidia geforce 6800gs using22:53
raphaelmichaelsamuel : I think so..22:53
brassok, I'll try #opengl22:53
brassthx22:53
histomatts45acp: does your server have a gui or just command line only?22:53
bekkssamuel: He has no clue about what you are talking. :)22:53
mgjaidanjt, i think i found my problem (router, port forward filtering). My router doesnt support nat loopback, i was accessing it on the wan IP from the inside - the router doesnt support that. From internet, it *should* work22:53
samuelok22:53
matts45acplidar, well what i wanna do is be able to read and write files from my server computer22:53
matts45acphisto, just has command line22:53
raphaelmichaelWhat is the utility of Tomoyo?22:53
histomatts45acp: what just a network share you want to have?22:53
lidarmatts45acp: server is ubuntu what are the other computers running ?22:54
matts45acphisto yes network share22:54
matts45acplidar, all computers running ubuntu 12.0422:54
lidarmatts45acp: setup nfs then22:55
lidar!nfs22:55
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.22:55
histo!nfs > matts45acp22:55
ubottumatts45acp, please see my private message22:55
raphaelmichaelAlguém do Brasil?22:55
matts45acplidar, can you help me with that22:55
lidarmatts45acp: its really easy check that page out then if you get stuck holler back someone will help22:56
bekks!br | raphaelmichael22:56
ubotturaphaelmichael: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:56
raphaelmichael!br22:56
raphaelmichaelbekks : Eduardo, você é brasileiro?22:56
graingertbrass: http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro-to-modern-OpenGL.-Chapter-4:-Rendering-a-Dynamic-3D-Scene-with-Phong-Shading.html22:57
lidarmatts45acp: the main thing is when you edit fstab dont typo22:57
bekksraphaelmichael: No.22:57
curtismI'm trying to get a touchpad working on 12.04, "Primax Electronics" in lsusb22:57
graingertbrass: http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro-to-modern-OpenGL.-Chapter-1:-The-Graphics-Pipeline.html22:57
* md_5 can't wait for debian 7 final22:57
MNIchieHas anybody here gotten gnome/any GUI to work on an ec2 Ubuntu instance?22:58
matts45acplidar, its saying to install nfs kernal server22:58
raphaelmichaelI remember my time on BrasIRC.. BrasNET.... OP.. Server Administrator22:58
GraemeLionmd_5: That..that's what, 5 years from now? :P22:58
Apwbdjpcurtism, does it not work at all, or work for a few seconds until you use the keyboard?22:58
matts45acplidar, do i do that on the server computer or the others?22:58
md_5MNIchie surely sudo apt-get  install gnome should work22:58
curtismApwbdjp: Doesn't work at all22:58
lidarmatts45acp: yeah you only need that on the server unless the desktops are exporting shares also22:58
md_5GraemeLion well yeah I have been using unstable on my server for ages now, want to do a clean install22:58
md_5frankly ubuntu server sucks'22:59
lidarmatts45acp: i would install it everywhere22:59
nvsynaptics keeps failing. whats the command for a full kde plamsa?22:59
MNIchiemd_5, X cannot detect any screens22:59
md_5MNIchie xforward22:59
Apwbdjpcurtism, Then you should google 'device name / serie + ubuntu'22:59
histomatts45acp: you need to install nfs-common on the clients and the server on the server according to the documentation22:59
curtismApwbdjp: I tried that23:00
curtismApwbdjp: Why would I be in #ubuntu23:00
nvtried installing opencart on an ubuntu server. that was fail from conception. stupid idea to try23:00
Apwbdjpcurtism, sorry, just eleminating the obvious23:00
histocurtism: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/usb:0461:4D22/23:01
histocurtism: I don't know if that's your usb id but you can check with lsusb23:01
md_5still no default-java symlink23:01
curtismhisto: 0461:4d81 :\23:02
* lidar java is *dying*23:02
GraemeLionAs long as it's the core android dev system, java's not going anywhere :)23:02
md_5fixed, needed to install default-java-headless23:03
dr_willisThought java was reaching new heights of ussage......23:03
matts45acplidar its telling me it could not find the nfs kernel server23:03
histocurtism: yeah i'm not finding much on that touchpad23:04
matts45acpnevermind i typed it wrong23:04
histomatts45acp: are you following the documentation?23:04
histo!touchpad | curtism23:04
ubottucurtism: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad23:04
matts45acphisto, yes i just installed23:04
matts45acphisto, now im lost23:05
matts45acphisto, should i just enter every command line on there or what?23:06
curtismhisto: `xinput list` doesn't show anything about touchpad :(23:06
histomatts45acp: I would read it first then decidt23:06
minix2004Medion Mobile Stick S 4012 not works with ixconn23:07
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matts45acphisto, i really dont understand everything that i need to do23:07
ActionParsnipminix2004: run:  lsusb  use the 8 character hex id to find guides23:08
LucasCamposHello. I think I have a similar problem to matts45acp. I cannot use multitouch on my mousepad. Also, synclient says I do not have any synaptic driver loaded. I tried using touchegg, but did not work. Here is the output of synclient, lspci and lsusb: http://pastebin.com/qkgJ4FpU23:09
minix2004sudo lsusb?23:09
LucasCamposOh, I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 64bits23:10
minix2004ActionParsniop: to find guides where?23:11
devslash'm thinking about attaching a usb external hard drive to my server to store media. I know that theres no definite answer but typically, how long would a drive last like that if it is connected all the time ?23:12
devslashforgot to mention, my server is Ubuntu Server23:12
minix2004Bus 002 Device 007: ID 12d1:1001 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E620 USB Modem23:12
nvcould last for years. i still have some old Conner hard drives (500MB and under) that i have been using as a flash drive since i was in grade school23:13
histomatts45acp: which part specifically?  There is an nfs server and a nfs clients.  The server needs to be set up first23:13
devslashnv this drive is 500GB so it'll work fine for my storage needs23:14
nvread the post again23:14
lidarmatts45acp: histo is right about read first .. i would suggest using  piece of paper put names/ips/folders ect. all together before starting it will save lots of trouble later :)23:14
devslashnv do you think that would there be a significant different in file access times if its stored on a usb drive vs stored on the server23:14
nvyes23:14
minix2004I want to use ixconn for interaction with this webstick. ActionParsnip?23:14
devslashnv well would it be a significantly longer delay ?23:15
matts45acpdo i have to make folders23:15
matts45acpi just want that whole drive to read and write to23:16
lidarmatts45acp: directories that you are exporting/mounting23:16
histomatts45acp: no like in my server I have in my /etc/exports file /srv/Storage 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)  This shares my /srv/Storage folder to my home network.23:16
Black_Daemonhi!23:17
krababbelmatts45acp: I found iscsi easier to setup, it is faster too23:17
devslashis there full read/write support for HFS+ file systems in Ubuntu ?23:17
histomatts45acp: you can share directories that exist already. I would not share the entire root drive. Is it an external drive or something that you want to share?23:17
Black_DaemonI was wondering if someone could tell me how to see USB drives in a terminal window23:17
krababbelmatts45acp: but only one pc can access an iscsi drive at a time23:17
lidarmatts45acp: thats fine ... server mounts /dev/foo /mnt/share  then the nfs-server exports /mnt/share to the clients which mount it .. its a beutifil system23:17
histoBlack_Daemon: is it mounted and visible in the gui?  If so you should find it's contents in /media/some-long-string23:17
histoBlack_Daemon: if not you have to mount it first23:18
devslashdoes anyone know ?23:18
histo!mount > Black_Daemon23:18
ubottuBlack_Daemon, please see my private message23:18
Black_Daemonhmm OK23:18
Black_Daemonum, well, I think it's mounted23:19
matts45acplidar, can you just tell me what to type to just read and write to that computers hd23:19
Black_DaemonI mean, I can see it in the gui23:19
histomatts45acp: which hard drive?23:19
matts45acphisto, in the server computer23:19
minix2004ActionParsnip: whats about talk?23:19
histomatts45acp: I would not share that drive for read and write to all users on the network23:19
theminerkubuntu23:20
Black_DaemonI suppose I should get right to the point: I'm trying to use UNetbootin, and I'm not sure... what I'm doing23:20
histomatts45acp: what is your ultimate goal?  What type of files will you be copying to the server and where are you storing them?23:20
ActionParsnipminix2004: how do you mean?23:20
lidarBlack_Daemon: download a .iso .. use unetbootin to install it to a usb stick23:20
Black_DaemonI have an .iso23:20
nvdevslash, depends on the the drive's internal mass storage controller and the USB connection. if it has at least 2 USB plugs for data, no the difference shouldnt be too significant. expect around 18MB/s average write23:20
matts45acphisto, only me will be accessing this server23:20
devslashnv ok thanks23:21
histomatts45acp: what type of files are you trying to copy and where are you putting them?23:21
jboughterI put over 15GB of space for my copy of Ubuntu. =P23:21
Black_DaemonI don't know that the "Drive" window is pointing to the right place23:21
matts45acphisto, i just wanna get it going really simple to play around and learn it23:21
Black_Daemonwhich is why I asked how to see it in a terminal window, so I could use cd23:21
matts45acpif i can just get it where i can see the stuff from my computer i can learn from there23:21
Black_Daemonmaybe I should just hit "ok" and see what happens xD23:21
histomatts45acp: well I would make it an ssh server and learn to use scp and sftp to move files etc... at first23:22
Black_Daemonhmm Ok it looks like it's working23:23
Black_Daemonnever mind and thanks for the help! <323:23
minix2004AaH: My webstick works fine, but i want to use ixconn for better control. But ixconn not works with Huawei modem E 620 USB modem under linux? You know help?23:23
theminerhisto  that is pretty easy,..just pick a distro and setup ssh23:23
devslashnv one last question. The most current copy of my music library is stored on my server. my external hard drive is currently formatted as HFS+ and already has most of my  music library. is HFS+ write support easy enough to deal with to save me the hassle of reformatting it ? If I really have to reformat it i will23:23
histotheminer: he already has a distro23:23
CiscoNinja!desktop Environment23:23
histotheminer: infact he's running a server for some reason and doesn't have much linux knowledge23:24
thwestis there a PPA with protobuf version 2.4.x for 10.04?23:24
theminerit's a good way to learn23:24
thwestwhats the best search for that23:24
nvext2 / ext4 will be much easier to deal with in the long run23:24
histomatts45acp: Take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24988923:24
theminerremote administering a system via ssh will help learn alot of the commands and how to perform updates etc23:24
devslashnv if HFS+ write support is stable, I was planning on using rsync to have  the external hard drive library match my current library23:24
CiscoNinjahow do i change from using unity in please23:24
lidarmatts45acp: the nfs page the bot posts is excellent step by step guide btw .. ssh into the server and follow server directions then follow client directions on your desktop(s)23:24
matts45acphisto, ok heres the deal i installed the nfs on the server, now what do i install on my computer that im using to see this thing23:24
nvrsync will work with hfs+23:25
devslashnv well i was thinking of formatting it as FAT32 in case I ever need access on a non-linux machine23:25
HalfalifeCisco, what DE do you want to switch to?23:25
nvfat32 is soooo slow23:25
devslashnv would ext4 give me faster file access times23:25
nvyes23:25
devslashhmm23:25
devslashok...23:25
lidarCiscoNinja: install xfce lxde fluxbox .. then logout and pick it before logging back in23:25
devslashi guess its time for me to format23:25
CiscoNinjaHalfalife, anything recommended other than unity23:26
krababbelmatts45acp: do you want to access a folder or a whole disk?23:26
histomatts45acp: on the server you need to edit hte /etc/exports  file and specify what you want to share23:26
matts45acpkrababbel, the whole disk for now23:26
histomatts45acp: on the clients you can mount the shares or brows to the server with nautilus23:26
krababbelmatts45acp: is the os on that disk?23:26
CiscoNinjalidar, just normal apt-get install xfce23:26
matts45acpkrababbel, yes23:26
histokrababbel: he want's to share his entire root but doesn't understand the consequences23:26
matts45acpkrababbel, or just one read and write folder23:27
lidarCiscoNinja: do apt-cache search xfce it will list a bunch of packages23:27
matts45acpkrababbel, just something simple23:27
matts45acpkrababbel, if i can do that and visual see it then i can learn it better23:27
CiscoNinjalidar, i know , but which one to choose heheheh23:28
matts45acpkrababbel, if i can get that far ill figure it out myself23:28
krababbelmatts45acp: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html Read about server config first, you need to configure nfs server23:28
lidarmatts45acp: if you do that a few clicks of the mouse and your server box needs repaired23:28
krababbelmatts45acp: and yes, choose a folder on the server, like /home23:28
lidarCiscoNinja: xfce4-desktop maybe i dont remebr if there is a meta package for a desktop23:28
minix2004I talk about information cost and time of webstick usage. Under windows software works. I copy this text information to ubuntu. But i not  want shutdown and change OS.23:29
matts45acpkrababbel, how do i make this folder23:29
histomatts45acp: I would create a folder on your server liek /home/matts45acp/share   replace matts45acp with whatever your username is on the server.23:29
histomatts45acp: mkdir /some/folder/name23:29
krababbelmatts45acp: the folder your files are in, you cannot share the whole drive the os is on23:29
krababbelmatts45acp: if you just want to remotely control the server, use ssh23:30
matts45acpim already doing ssh23:31
minix2004ixconn is for that use. But not works with every webstick . . .23:31
histomatts45acp: you can mount remote folders with ssh as well23:31
jboughter_Do I have to execute certain applications with scripts?23:31
krababbelmatts45acp: then read the tutorials and set up nfs23:31
CiscoNinjalidar, i will try xbuntu23:33
ActionParsnipminix2004: if its a windows app you won't need it in ubuntu23:33
histomatts45acp: on your client computer install sshfs using sudo apt-get install sshfs   then you can sshfs username@server.ip.address:/remote/directory ~/localdirector23:33
CiscoNinjathank you23:33
matts45acpkrababbel, ok i did mkdir /home/myname/share.   now what23:33
ActionParsnipjboughter_: you can execute most things with scripts, what are you trying to achieve?23:34
matts45acpkrababbel, i want that to read and write from this computer23:34
histomatts45acp: edit your /etc/exports file and put /home/myname/share ip.range.of.yourlan/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)23:34
nzeroxhey guys23:34
jboughter__I'm trying to run erm23:35
nvhi23:35
nzeroxcan anyone help me to get an infinity usb umlinited working on 12.04 ?23:35
theminersounds more like you need to just read the tuts and learn the commands for moving files back and forth from shares23:35
minix2004Its information for prepaid stick about balance and internet flatrat-time23:35
histomatts45acp: liek if your local ips are 192.168.1.xxx you would put 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)23:35
ActionParsnipminix2004: sounds like a windows app23:35
jboughter__Hmmm23:35
jboughter__I'm trying to download TS323:35
ActionParsnipjboughter_: what are you wanting to run?23:35
matts45acphisto, u have lost me23:35
jboughter__But it's downloaded by a .run file23:35
histomatts45acp: On the server you need to edit the /etc/exports   file can you do that?23:35
jboughter__I think so23:36
ActionParsnipjboughter_: mark the file as executable and then run the file with sudo, its not dissimilar to a windows setup file, just for linux23:36
matts45acphisto, yes im just waiting to type the next line, what do i type23:36
minix2004Windows app --- yes. But i want this information for oneiric directly.23:36
histomatts45acp: do you know the ip range of your network?23:37
matts45acphisto, no23:37
minix2004ixconn is a linux app for that. But not ror every stick23:37
histomatts45acp: go to another tty or terminal and type in ifconfig23:37
jboughter__Also Action, I tried running Minecraft on here23:38
matts45acpok i done that23:38
jboughter__I had to excute a script, and the script closed the terminal out23:38
histomatts45acp: You'll see some output among that will be the ipaddress of the server23:38
histomatts45acp: the inet addr:   section23:39
matts45acphisto, im using putty now23:39
matts45acpim already in the server just waiting to type a command line23:39
histomatts45acp: So you have to share files  to windows clients?23:40
minix2004Shure, I come from windows but mostly i use ubuntu oneiric. MacOS is not unfamiliar but this happend in the past.23:40
histomatts45acp: what ip are you typing into putty to connect to the server with?23:41
matts45acphisto, 10.0.0.523:41
histomatts45acp: okay so in your /etc/exports file you need the line /home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)   on a line23:42
matts45acphisto, im in there now and have used that to install and do the mkdir folder thing23:42
banjoherohullo all23:42
ActionParsnipjboughter_: you can make a file in /usr/share/applications to run minecraft from dash23:42
togoH,can someone help me i cannot watch or play cnn videos,using ubuntu 12.0423:42
jboughter__it says i don't have permissions23:43
minix2004I am not very familiar with terminal window. Problems with where to find information, what type and put in where.23:43
ActionParsnipjboughter_: if you can give the name and path of the .run file (case very sensitive) I can give the command to run it23:43
histomatts45acp: when you are done save the file. Also you'll want to chmod ugo+wrx /home/myname/share   so everyone has permisions23:43
matts45acphisto, ok how do i get to /etc/exports23:43
histomatts45acp: sudo nano /etc/exports23:43
jboughter__well nvm but i wanna get minecraft right now23:43
jboughter__also23:43
jboughter__i just installed jre 7,23:43
* histo bangs his head against a wall23:43
banjoherocan anyone here explain to me why they made ubuntu 12.04 suck?   for example, the virtual terminals seem to have been done away with.23:44
jboughter__usr/share, then i drag minecraft.jar?23:44
histobanjohero: no there  not23:44
ActionParsnipjboughter_: if you copy one of the .desktop file from ~/.config/autostart    you can modify it as you need, you can then copy it in /usr/share/applicvations   and it will be runnable from dash23:44
histobanjohero: s/they're/there/23:45
jboughter__wait hold on23:45
jboughter__can i show you the script i'm using to open minecraft?23:45
ActionParsnipjboughter_: you will need to change the exec line to run the java command you execute to run java23:45
ActionParsnipjboughter_: sure23:45
banjoherono, i track, histo....  what I don't get is why they're not there, if they're there.  Shit.  Now I want to work a "their" in there, too.23:45
histobanjohero: lol23:45
histobanjohero: tty's are present in 12.0423:46
minix2004action: for example: name and path of .run file Where to find?23:46
matts45acphisto, ok i typed that now what23:46
histomatts45acp: save the file23:46
ActionParsnipminix2004: depends where you put it....23:46
matts45acphisto, save what file23:46
minix2004action: another example what does putty?23:47
histomatts45acp: the file you are adding the line to the /etc/exports file Ctrl+x to exit nano it will ask you to save23:47
ActionParsnipminix2004: putty is an SSH client, runs pn most OSes23:48
matts45acphisto, do i type something or just exit23:48
banjoherono, not ttys;  the virtual terminals - [ctl][alt][F <7] just gives me a blank screen.   Also, what's with the one-pixel goddamn resize borders on windows?  Also, also, I miss my focus-follows-mouse.  Also also also too, they made it look all stupid.23:48
minix2004what is a SSH client? you use for?23:48
histomatts45acp: you needed to add the /home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)    in that file23:48
bazhangbanjohero, no cursing here23:49
matts45acphisto, i have not exit yet, how do  add that23:49
ActionParsnipminix2004: connecting to an SSH server, to run commands on the server. With extra options you can run graphical applications and they will show on the client system but execute on the server23:49
histomatts45acp: just exit the file ctlr+x we'll do it a different way23:49
lidarhisto: will you tell me what to type so i can use my computer in a special way :D23:50
minix2004remote shell?23:50
ActionParsnipminix2004: yes23:50
ActionParsnipminix2004: as well as other things23:50
banjoheromeh. sorry, whatever.  then, "What's with the one-pixel gosh-darned borders, gee willickers?"   is that better? :P23:50
bazhangbanjohero, this is not the complaints channel23:50
histomatts45acp: go back to terminal and type sudo echo "/home/myname/share  10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" > /etc/exports23:50
banjohero@bazhang is there one?23:51
ActionParsniphisto: that won't work23:51
ActionParsniphisto: sudo doesn't traverse the redirection ;)23:51
histoActionParsnip: ahh crap need to use tee then23:51
ActionParsniphisto: that's the one23:51
histomatts45acp: nevermind this is beyond explaining in here23:51
bazhangbanjohero, no23:51
histomatts45acp: you need to read some more tutorials and learn to use the terminal first if you are going to administer a server on your network.23:52
matts45acphisto, can you just private msg me and help me23:52
histomatts45acp: I thihnk you first need to figure out what you want to do exactly. you came in here asking about running a virtual machine. Now you just want to share files23:52
banjohero\tell bazhang it's just mighty frustrating.  I assumed there would be changes, I just did not expect a radical removal of usability.  Who, exactly, is this new ubuntu supposed to appeal to?23:53
matts45acphisto, i wanna do both23:53
bazhangbanjohero, take the chit chat elsewhere please.  file a usability bug if you wish23:53
bazhang!bugs | banjohero23:53
ubottubanjohero: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:53
minix2004Aah histo: Where to fo find some more tutorials to learn to use the terminal better?23:54
GoronHello #ubuntu, I am a frequent user coming from a Windows background. Lately I have become used to moving my mouse to the left side of the screen to bring the Launcher into view, and when I boot up my Windows partition I frequently find myself moving my mouse to the left side to view a non-existent Launcher.23:54
histomatts45acp: first you need to learn how to edit a file.23:54
HalfalifeGoron: Move the Start menu to left side.23:54
HalfalifeAnd set to autohide.23:54
HalfalifeProblem solved.23:54
matts45acphisto, ok can we go back to the other thing then23:54
HalfalifeNot the exact same, but close enough that it won't throw you off.23:54
histominix2004: http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal23:55
melik_are there any graphical frontends to iscsi on ubuntu>23:55
histomatts45acp: not if you can't edit a file23:55
GoronHalfalife: Does Canonical have any plans to fix this bug?23:55
HalfalifeWhich bug?23:55
matts45acphisto, just tell me what to type23:55
banjoheroGee, thanks, bazhang.  You're super helpful.23:55
GoronHalfalife: When I move my mouse to the left side during a Windows boot, I mistakenly expect the Launcher to appear.23:56
HalfalifeThat's not a "bug", Goron.23:56
HalfalifeIt's just a different user experience.23:56
lidarecho Goron | sed s/G/M/23:56
Halfalife?23:56
GoronHalfalife: I won't argue, but it appears to me that it is intrinsically related to the software, and therefore a bug. Sorry.23:57
histomatts45acp: sudo echo "/home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" | tee /etc/exports23:57
HalfalifeWell, the operating systems are different.23:57
vmhow do i increase swap size on ubuntu?23:57
HalfalifeI don't really get what you mean by calling it a bug?23:57
HalfalifeUse a Gparted live Cd and change the size of the partition.23:57
HalfalifeMight be a more elegant way.23:57
HalfalifeBut that's one way.23:57
matts45acphisto, do i put in the " "23:57
histomatts45acp: sorry typoed that23:57
lidarvm: you can add a swapfile as well23:57
dr_willisor add more swap partitions23:58
histomatts45acp: echo "/home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" | sudo tee /etc/exports23:58
histomatts45acp: yes with " and the |23:58
Goronvm: Using gparted is the least invasive way as I understand. You don't have to install a grub launcher or change the master boot record.23:58
histomatts45acp: echo "/home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" | sudo tee -a /etc/exports23:58
histomatts45acp: just copy and paste the last one I typed23:58
histomatts45acp: change the /home/myname/share appropriately23:58
histominix2004: http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal23:58
tarvidis NetworkManager fried on Gnome or am I just lucky23:59
dr_willisive had no issues with network maanger23:59
Goronlidar: What did that command do?23:59

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