[00:00] <Flannel> confused: It's a staging area, sometimes containing packages that have unsatisfiable dependencies, or other problems.
[00:00] <dj_ryan> yeah i dont want to use urandom, i used zero
[00:00] <xorgd> dj_ryan: do you plan to use encryption ?
[00:00] <dj_ryan> no
[00:00] <xorgd> your fine with zero
[00:01] <confused> Flannel  having problems with the upgrade/dist-upgrade  an I suppose to sudo first
[00:01] <Flannel> confused: no, just do one or the other: `sudo apt-get upgrade` will be fine.
[00:01] <dj_ryan> so here's a question what does d-i netcfg/get_hostname take as an option?
[00:01] <confused> Flannel  how to clear that staging area
[00:02] <Flannel> confused: staging area? oh, disable -proposed in whatever GUI you use to select software sources
[00:02] <confused> Flannel did the upgrade thing already and posted the pastebin
[00:02] <Flannel> confused: Does it have the same output as before?
[00:02] <confused> Flannel should I do it again
[00:03] <Flannel> confused: yeah, you've changed the data it's running off of.
[00:03] <confused> harry@harry-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:03] <confused> Reading package lists... Done
[00:03] <confused> Building dependency tree
[00:03] <confused> Reading state information... Done
[00:03] <confused> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:03] <FloodBot1> confused: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <Flannel> confused: Looks like you're up to date then.
[00:04] <Flannel> chan-1611: Can you please stop hopping in and out?
[00:04] <szal> unless deselecting -proposed in a GUI would still require apt-get update, that is
[00:04] <confused> then why is the 85kb file still there in the update manager.. This is the problem
[00:05] <nibbler_> confused, i have not seen the 85kb file in any or your pastes, can you point it out to me please?
[00:05] <Flannel> confused: Can you post like... a screenshot of that?
[00:05] <rox> confused: all this time you haven't been able to tell us what 85k file
[00:06] <rox> confused: i am sure you are misinterpreting something
[00:06]  * nibbler_ agrees
[00:06] <confused> I DONT KNOW what the file is...  Update manager does NOT give a discription or anything about it.. it worries me.
[00:06] <nibbler_> confused, make screenshot or paste of whatever indication to whatever 85k file you have, or it might look like you are trolling ;-)
[00:07] <rox> confused: update manager lists all packages it upgrades
[00:07] <szal> confused: so how do you know it's 85 kB in size?
[00:08] <confused> It states ...   again...  1 update has been selected.  85kb will be downloaded   THis is all there is on the update manager  I dont know what it is or how to fix it..
[00:08] <dr_willis> was you asking abut this about 2 weeks ago confused ?
[00:08] <Erin> pictures or it didn't happen :-)
[00:08] <confused> YES
[00:08] <confused> still not fixed
[00:08] <dr_willis> and is there any actual problem? stuff wont install?
[00:09] <tooe> ok
[00:09] <confused> I have a screenshot but how to get a screenshot on pastebin.. I copy paste and get the path to the screenshot on the pastebin
[00:09] <rox> ok, click on all those "details" and "description" buttons and arrows and for god's sake tell us what package you are talking about
[00:09] <nibbler_> !paste > confused
[00:09] <dr_willis> confused:  you paste it to a screenshot site.. not pastebin
[00:09] <confused> dr_willis   correct, it wont install..
[00:09] <dr_willis>  confused  you dont paste the url like  file:/mydir/file.png
[00:10] <confused> ok,, Hold on
[00:10] <dr_willis> or you can capture the apt-get session via the 'typescript' command  to a text file.
[00:10]  * nibbler_ wonders what magic picture might show up
[00:10] <Flannel> dr_willis: we've already got apt-get stuff, nothing is in them.
[00:11] <confused> Finally got it.. Paste    http://imagebin.org/226690
[00:11] <dr_willis> confused:  so as a examaple  you cant install anything and get some error when you try somthing like -->   sudo apt-get install pioneers
[00:11] <yoof> fine
[00:12] <confused> dr_willis  http://imagebin.org/226690    and I try to install it,,, the blue line goes running across and checks again only to see the same thing on the screen,, nothing changes and NO new updates
[00:13] <dr_willis> confused:  try installing somthing from the terminal.. look for error messages..  so far it just seems update-manager is confiused.. not the actual package system
[00:13] <confused> dr_willis    the discription is also totally blank
[00:13] <nibbler_> confused, maybe apt-get -f install
[00:13] <dr_willis> confused:  i dont care about what the GUI tool says..
[00:14] <dr_willis> im asking about the text based tools that will give more error info.
[00:14] <Ironsight> Anyone get minecraft working? I get a black screen :(
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Ironsight: which java are you using?
[00:14] <Ironsight> oracle java 7
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Ironsight: do you have 3D accelleration setup?
[00:14] <Ironsight> yes
[00:14] <confused> dr_willis   kinda new to the terminal     I dont know how to use it like that
[00:14] <dr_willis> confused:  so as a examaple  you cant install anything and get some error when you try somthing like -->   sudo apt-get install pioneers
[00:14] <KobeSyst1m> so i can only access my server thru a browser by typeing the local ipaddress
[00:14] <dr_willis> confused:  so try that command...
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Ironsight: tried running it windowed (assuming that is an option)
[00:15] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pioneers
[00:15] <ubuntu> -__________-
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Ironsight: tried in Unity2D session?
[00:15] <ubuntu> I keep having endless pc problems.
[00:15] <ubuntu> Just installed GNOME for 12.04 and it wiped my drive.
[00:15] <Ironsight> ActionParsnip, never tried unity
[00:15] <Guest75472> Just installed GNOME for 12.04 and it wiped my drive.... fantastic.
[00:15] <Guest75472> On a Live CD now.l
[00:15]  * dr_willis doubts it...
[00:15] <confused> dr_willis  it is in process
[00:15] <Ironsight> what I tried was right click the jar file and run with oracle java 7...
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest75472: Default Ubuntu comes with Gnome by default
[00:16] <Ironsight> it gets to the login screen, updates, and goes black
[00:16] <dr_willis> Ironsight:  the minecraft docs tell the proper command line syntax to run minecraft
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Ironsight: try in Unity2D session
[00:16] <confused> dr_willis
[00:16] <confused> Processing triggers for menu ...
[00:16] <confused>  was the last command
[00:16] <PissedOff> Any idea how to restore my HD? I installed GNOME on 12.04 and it wiped my drive.
[00:16] <dr_willis> confused:  so.. the apt-get system does in fact work.
[00:16] <PissedOff> After rebooting grub errors.
[00:17] <confused> dr_willis appears to with terminal
[00:17] <KobeSyst1m> ActionParsnip: i can only reach my server from my own computer (wireless connection) by typing local address\
[00:17] <dr_willis> confused:  you should have a game called 'pioneers'  try running 'pioneers' from the terminal to see.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: I'd use your backups
[00:17] <PissedOff> Backups....
[00:17] <confused> dr_willis how to fix the update manager
[00:17] <PissedOff> ActionParsnip, Explain.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> KobeSyst1m: if you add an entry in /etc/hosts you can use the name
[00:18] <dr_willis> confused:  no idea.. i rarely mess with the gui update manager. i run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' about once a week.
[00:18] <KobeSyst1m> ActionParsnip: i can access my server from iphone
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: data important to you wil have been copied to a removable storage by you, or to another system for safe keeping....a backup
[00:18] <confused> dr_willis it appears to be working...
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: so if anything bad happens, you can restore the data
[00:18] <KobeSyst1m> ActionParsnip: for example i gave u the url earlier and u were able to see my server
[00:18] <PissedOff> ActionParsnip, It was a fresh install. After installing GNOME it got wiped.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: can you expand on 'wiped' please
[00:19] <KobeSyst1m> ActionParsnip: i dont understand when im try to access it locally it doesnt let me access it
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: a default 12.04 Ubuntu install comes with Gnome desktop by default
[00:19] <PissedOff> ActionParsnip, Isn't unity different?
[00:19] <nibbler_> PissedOff, did you run it from live cd?
[00:19] <PissedOff> nibbler_ no.
[00:19] <confused> wooops  clicked the wrong  x  by mistake
[00:19] <dr_willis> Unity runs on top of gnome.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: yes, Unity isa shell for the gnome desktop
[00:20] <Gary_inNYC> hello, what's the terminal command to start the battery indicator applet, since I'm using openbox?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: it replaces Gnome-panel as the default shell
[00:20] <PissedOff> nibbler_ I'm on live CD now. When I look at the partition manager it shows a NTFS file for 104 MB and the rest as free space.
[00:20] <confused> dr_willis   so do I have a bug in the manager.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: what panel are you useing?
[00:20] <dr_willis> confused:  or a messed up ppa, or other config file.
[00:20] <Gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: I'm using tint2
[00:21] <dr_willis> confused:  if 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' works.. then the system is updated.
[00:21] <SGT_Saunders> hi there folks. I'm having a problem with an install.  Mainly getting a resolutiion out of range on my monitor on boot.
[00:21] <nibbler_> PissedOff, then just install it again?
[00:21] <confused> dr_willis   Yea. I get that but I dont like the fact that there could be a virus floating around messing with things
[00:21] <dr_willis> SGT_Saunders:  grub menu by default uses some of the differnt modes.
[00:21] <dr_willis> SGT_Saunders:  you could set it to use a text mode.
[00:21] <MonkeyDust> confused  a virus?
[00:21] <PissedOff> nibbler_ I configured loads of apps and such. Guess they're all gone..
[00:21] <PissedOff> No way to reverse it?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/3232/my-tint2-config   has a tint2 config including battery
[00:22] <dr_willis> confused:  you are being paranoid..  its i doubt if its a 'virus'
[00:22] <lidar> MonkeyDust: makes the confusedname even more relevant
[00:22] <SGT_Saunders> willis: I've tried but I can't even access grub to get to  text.
[00:22] <nibbler_> PissedOff, do you have an SSD harddrive?
[00:22] <dr_willis> SGT_Saunders:  does the system actually boot to a desktop/login screen?
[00:22] <SGT_Saunders> willis: no
[00:22] <PissedOff> nibbler_ no
[00:22] <dr_willis> SGT_Saunders:  ive had a few box's where i cant see grub. but they do boot after the normal delay.
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: https://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure#Battery
[00:23] <dj_ryan> installer and preseed: how do i get the hostname to come from dhcp?
[00:23] <dr_willis> SGT_Saunders:  sounds like you got deeper issues then. so what does the sytem do exactly when you power it up?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: so...how do you mean 'wiped'  you never said
[00:23] <confused> dr_willis   Well, it is being adversely affected in a way that it shouldn't.. I realize you and a select few here have a VAST knowledge as I have see some of you helping so many for so long, but if we cant explain something tht doesnt mean there isn't cause to be paranoid.. I thank you for your help though.
[00:23] <nibbler_> PissedOff, ok... well... guess itsnot easy to restore anything, yet possible. but as its not yet clarified what went wrong (installing gnome certainly did not cause this) it could only be guessing
[00:24] <dr_willis> confused:  your screenshots also seem to show you are using 'Zorin' which has its own support channels.
[00:24] <SGT_Saunders> willis: i'm converting and 3yr old Emachine with AMD64 single core with 2gb ram and appearantly a Nvidia GFX on MOBO.  I get splash then the post and then the out of range.
[00:24] <PissedOff> http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/06/25-things-i-did-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[00:24] <PissedOff> I did everything in that list, the reinstalled
[00:24] <dr_willis> confused:  so it may be some weird quirk with their repos that we cant recreate
[00:24] <PissedOff> Grub errors, I pop in a live cd and see a LOT of free space.
[00:25] <nibbler_> confused, what happens if you click "install updated"?
[00:25] <confused> dr_willis I wish I knew where to go for zorin help.. It is Ubuntu platform though isnt it?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> confused: #zorinOS
[00:25] <dr_willis> confused:  start with the zorin homepage.. and see if they have an irc channel. techinally this channel does NOT do zorin support. so you would normally be on your own.
[00:26] <dr_willis> I just recognized the Screenshot from todays Disrtowatch web page. :)
[00:26] <confused> nibbler   It looks like it is trying to install or check something then the updater shows the same thing//
[00:26] <lauratika> hi i got a new all in one lenovo with damn! windows 7 for some reason i need to leave the windows as it it... how can i create a new table partition with 16 gb for OS and 200 gb for files plus the windows partition_
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: not seeing anything overly exciting there
[00:27] <confused> Well I thank all for a great effort in this Nagging issue.. It has been going on for weeks and I will try to find Zorin Help.. Thanks again all.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: what do you see when you log in?
[00:27] <dr_willis> I really dont see much point in ZorinOS.. but i guess use what you want.
[00:27] <PissedOff> ActionParsnip: I can't login. Grub errored
[00:27] <SGT_Saunders> brb
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: then boot to liveCD and reinstate grub2
[00:27] <PissedOff> ActionParsnip: I use a 12.04 Live CD and see that my partitions have been wiped.
[00:27] <PissedOff> So I don't think it would help.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: nothing is wiped at all, just the grub is faulty
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: as in no partitions?
[00:28] <confused> dr_willis   good point I may be formatting soon..
[00:28] <PissedOff> As in 104 MB partition and the rest free space.
[00:28] <PissedOff> Yes.
[00:28] <dr_willis> confused:  if you want an old-skool type look/desktop use Lubuntu
[00:28] <SGT_Saunders> back
[00:28] <nibbler_> PissedOff, can you nopaste 'sudo fdisk -l' please?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: is it an SSD?
[00:28] <KobeSyst1m> does anyone know why i cant access my server locally by using a domain name
[00:28] <confused> dr_willis   Ill look into it thx for the tip
[00:29] <PissedOff> nibbler_ sure
[00:29] <PissedOff> action, nope
[00:29] <lauratika> anyone ubuntu_
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> KobeSyst1m: what happens if you use nslookup servername
[00:29] <lauratika> please
[00:29] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  by ip works?
[00:29] <KobeSyst1m> everyon can access it
[00:29] <PissedOff> /dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT --- That's all that shows
[00:29] <KobeSyst1m> but me locally
[00:29] <KobeSyst1m> unless i type the local address
[00:29] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  can YOU access it by ip# ?
[00:29] <KobeSyst1m> like 192.x.x.x
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> PissedOff: you could use testdisk to make the same partitions and fsck them (assuming you know the sizes)
[00:29] <KornKage> where do i set environment variable "export RTLSDR_DRIVER=1" ?
[00:29] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  can YOU access it by the other Internet ip#?
[00:30] <PissedOff> ActionParsnip, I know how large they were, but not exactly for one of them
[00:30] <dr_willis> KornKage:  for a single user? or all users?
[00:30] <dr_willis> KornKage:  what is that supposed to do exactly anyway?
[00:30] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: no
[00:30] <KobeSyst1m> not locally
[00:31] <nibbler_> KobeSyst1m, are you sure you have a FQDN that is properly configured, or is it just a hostname you setup?
[00:31] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  sounds like the server is not set to listen to all the ports/ip ranges in its settings..
[00:31] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: type philanoues.com
[00:31] <PissedOff> nibbler_ /dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT is all that shows after sudo fdisk -l
[00:31] <nibbler_> PissedOff, then your fdisk is broken, as it should create way more output (nopaste)
[00:32] <PissedOff> fdisk = ?
[00:32] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: can u access it from you end
[00:32] <Troy^> My ubuntu server DNS is not working yet again!
[00:33] <nibbler_> Troy^, your dns server is running on ubuntu, or your ubuntu server utilizes some other dns server? if 2nd: the dns server is broken or the usage of it from within your ubuntu server is broken?
[00:34] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  i could earlier today.... have you done anything to it in the last few hours?
[00:34] <Troy^> dns is my router... worked earlier and all the other comps on my network work fine. except the ubuntu box is static
[00:34] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: nibbler_ i just tried it with my iphone and it works
[00:34] <nibbler_> Troy^, dig cnn.com @IP-OF-YOUR-ROUTER
[00:34] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m: ... so... the problem was what exactly?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: add an entry in /etc/hosts if it's static, makes resolution instantaneous
[00:35] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: my mac that is connected wireless
[00:35] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: cant access it by its cannonnical name
[00:35] <Troy^> what is the parameter? nameserver 192.168.2.1
[00:35] <nibbler_> Troy^, and if you want to use your router from your ubuntu as a dns server, make sure you have "nameserver IP-OF-YOUR-ROUTER" in /etc/resolv.conf
[00:35] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  you mean on your Local Lan? If one pc on the lan cant access it.. sounds liek theres firewall settings, or a dns, or hostname resolving issue.. if the ip works.. why not use the ip.
[00:35] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: so when i type 192.168.0.254
[00:36] <Troy^> nibbler_: it is there
[00:36] <leaper> Hi
[00:36] <leaper> I install Ubuntu on my windows with Wubi
[00:36] <nibbler_> Troy^, the dig works?
[00:36] <leaper> Now I'm getting the LTS
[00:36] <leaper> I had someone reccommend kubuntu over ubuntu
[00:37] <leaper> What's the difference?
[00:37] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: i can only access it when i type 192.168.0.254
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> leaper: depends which apps you prefer and the desktop itself
[00:37] <KobeSyst1m> is there something i need to enable in my router
[00:37] <Troy^> nibbler_: what was i suppose to get from it it came back with jumps
[00:37] <KobeSyst1m> i just got my internet connected
[00:37] <Troy^> or hits
[00:37] <KobeSyst1m> and something is not getting laoine
[00:37] <rox> leaper: the desktop environment, ubuntu had Gnome installed by default, and kubuntu has KDE
[00:37] <KobeSyst1m> alone*
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> leaper: I'd hit up youtube etc, there will be vids
[00:37] <KobeSyst1m> along*
[00:37] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  quick work around.. add a entry in /etc/hosts for it.. and use whatever name you want.. I always use ip# for all my machines on my lan.. NEVER their names..
[00:37] <leaper> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu is cool in my head, so I'm not picky
[00:37] <leaper> But the things that matter are: speed
[00:37] <KornKage> dr_willis i don't think it matters, because its only me on and my ubuntu
[00:38] <dr_willis> Internet settings on the router wont be affecting the local LAN host name finding stuff for the lan machines
[00:38] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: but why should i change it
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> leaper: if you use a light destop like LXDE (default in Lubuntu) it will use fewer resources and be faster
[00:38] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: i have philaneous.com
[00:38] <leaper> Right now I have regular old Ubuntu
[00:38] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: i think it has to do something with the wireless
[00:38] <Troy^> arg
[00:39] <rox> leaper: well, regular old ubuntu has Gnome installed
[00:39] <nibbler_> Troy^, if it has answers for you, the dns works... if you are unsure about the result, just nopaste it. please nopaste: dig cnn.com @8.8.8.8; dig cnn.com @YOUR-DNS-SERVER; dig cnn.com; ping heise.de; cat /etc/resolve.conf
[00:39] <leaper> Yes
[00:39] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: im going to grab an ethernet cable and see if i can type philaneous.com
[00:39] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m: hook up a wired connectin and see..
[00:39] <KornKage> dr_willis i think the problem that i have is that i don't quite understand the diffence between system variable and environment variable, and where to put each , in case these are not the same
[00:39] <leaper> Is KDE a better desktop environment?
[00:39] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: yeah
[00:39] <nibbler_> !better
[00:39] <rox> leaper: kubuntu would have KDE, which is a different desktop environment
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> leaper: there is no outright 'better' or 'best'
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> leaper: try it, see if you like it
[00:39] <dr_willis> KornKage:   I cant say ive ever heard the term 'SYstem Variable' used.. an Enviromental variable is a feature of the shell.
[00:39] <rox> leaper: it's a question of preference, rather then quality
[00:40] <KornKage> dr_willis its on gnss-sdr README telling me to do it to probably enable rtlsdr(usb SDR device)
[00:40] <rox> leaper: i, for instance, run xubuntu
[00:40] <leaper> Ok
[00:40] <rox> leaper: which has xfce installed by default
[00:40] <dr_willis> KornKage:  system wide /etc/profile would be a likely place to set it.
[00:40] <leaper> What's xubuntu use?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> leaper: XFCE
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> leaper: with xfwm4 as the WM
[00:41] <leaper> Are there like pics of all the different enviros?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> leaper: Kubuntu uses Kwin and Ubuntu uses Compiz
[00:41] <Troy^> nibbler_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1178886/
[00:41] <rox> leaper: google is your friend
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> leaper: sure, search the web
[00:41] <leaper> K
[00:41] <leaper> And what's Lubuntu?
[00:41] <KornKage> dr_willis i will give you the README, https://gnss-sdr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gnss-sdr/trunk/README
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> leaper: LXDE + openbox on Ubuntu
[00:41] <rox> leaper: http://www.google.si/search?q=lubuntu&num=100&hl=sl&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=eyc&channel=cs&prmd=imvnsal&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6FhBUJPjErTO4QTjt4CoAw&ved=0CFMQsAQ&biw=1406&bih=1094
[00:42] <rox> leaper: http://www.google.si/search?q=kubuntu&num=100&hl=sl&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tVlBUKzhPMaB4ATH9oCQAQ&ved=0CEwQsAQ&biw=1406&bih=1094
[00:42] <lidar> !google > leaper
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> rox: one reraon to not use google
[00:42] <KornKage> i have put the system variables on .bashrc file(as root)
[00:42] <leaper> K
[00:42] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/26318/environment-variable-vs-shell-variable-whats-the-difference
[00:42] <dr_willis> KornKage:  root has his own .bashrc that i doubt gets read/used very much
[00:42] <dr_willis> KornKage:  that would definatly NOT affect all users.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> leaper: there is nothing stopping you installing all the desktops and tryingthem all (except storage space)
[00:43] <leaper> Yea
[00:43] <leaper> The comp I'm using is a cheap Toshiba Satellite from a couple years ago
[00:43] <rox> leaper: it is good to know, that all those desktop environments are in ubuntu, it's just a question of which one is installed by default
[00:43] <leaper> Like a forerunner test comp
[00:43] <dr_willis> KornKage:  for a single user. you could put the export line at the end of their .bashrc
[00:43] <leaper> Ok
[00:44] <leaper> Well thanks for everything
[00:44] <leaper> Just wondering
[00:44] <rox> leaper: which means, if you install from kubuntu cd, with a single command you can turn that kubuntu into lubuntu or xubuntu or ubuntu - whichever you prefer
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> leaper: go crazy then, once you find what you like, wipe it all off and just install what you like
[00:44] <leaper> And oh yea, what does it mean by CD?
[00:44] <ratcheer> LOL
[00:44] <leaper> I suppose like a 138mb floppy disc wont work?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> leaper: in what context?
[00:45] <leaper> For installing Desktop LTS
[00:45] <KornKage> dr_willis ok , thank you
[00:45] <Troy^> arrgg now all my comps on the network are having DNS problems
[00:46] <dr_willis> 138mb floppy disc?
[00:46] <leaper> Something like that
[00:48] <rox> leaper: would you please give me your dealer's phone number?
[00:48] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: i tried access it thru my ps3 (wireless)
[00:48] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: no luckl
[00:48] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: i tried ethernet
[00:48] <leaper> What?
[00:48] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  by ip# or name? or what exactly....
[00:48] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: something is fucking it up locally
[00:48] <rox> leaper: just joking
[00:48] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: i tried by the domain name
[00:49] <leaper> Is a 138mb floppy disc unusual?
[00:49] <rox> leaper: 138MGB floppy disk is a pretty bizzare thing to say
[00:49] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: it only works when i type 192.168.0.254
[00:49] <leaper> I have no iidea what it ia
[00:49] <leaper> Is*
[00:49] <leaper> Its something like that
[00:49] <dr_willis> KobeSyst1m:  dosent really make a lot of sence to go 'out to the internet' to connect to a server that is directly on the local lan.
[00:50] <Troy^> i don't understand how i could have so many dns problems
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> leaper: you'll need a 700Mb CD, a 4.7Gb DVD or a 1Gb USB stick (or SD card)
[00:50] <leaper> Thanks
[00:50] <leaper> I have a 1gb usb
[00:51] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: it only works when i type 192.168.0.254
[00:51] <leaper> Not sure if my old comp can boot with a usb tho, ill try
[00:51] <KobeSyst1m> dr_willis: type philaneous.com
[00:51] <bobweaver> KobeSyst1m,  what in the hosts file ?
[00:53] <rox> leaper: a CD is a safe choice of installation media
[00:53] <leaper> Where do I buy one of these mystical "CD" thingies?
[00:54] <rox> leaper: hmm, in pretty much any computer store, bookstore, most general stores, gas stations, etc
[00:55] <rox> leaper: have you not heard of CD or DVD disks?
[00:55]  * rox will brb
[00:55] <leaper> DVDs are for movies rright?
[00:56] <moes> They can also be used for operating system etc
[00:56] <leaper> Ill stick with a USB, thanks though
[00:57] <leaper> That is if it works...
[00:59] <cinead> fyi - dvd drives won't boot from ubuntu iso on a CD
[01:00] <ratcheer> cinead: What? I do it all the time.
[01:01] <cinead> not mine ... usually drive reads both, but I installed today one that is just dvd
[01:01] <cinead> took me an hour to figure out what I was doing wrong
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cinead: will if you grab the DVD ISO
[01:03] <cinead> yep.  just burned the iso to a dvd and it worked fine.
[01:04] <dr_willis> sounds like a hardware failure on the drive...
[01:05] <dr_willis> or an old drive that couldent handle the cd+r or -r or whatever it used to be.
[01:06] <HeatSeeker> Hi, I can not longer access the graphical login screen on ubuntu 12.04.
[01:06] <HeatSeeker> no longer*
[01:06] <krababbel> HeatSeeker: what exactly happens?
[01:07] <HeatSeeker> I can't remember the error message, would it have auto-logged to a file or should I reboot quick?
[01:08] <krababbel> HeatSeeker: you mean it won't automatically start and what happens then?
[01:08] <spaceace85> Can someone recommend a COMPATIBLE PCI-Express Sound card with SPDIF Coax outputs for Ubuntu?
[01:08] <dr_willis> not a lot we can do with the vagueness of the  informnation...
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: wow totally forgot the + - thing
[01:09] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  :) yep.. us old timers can rember when that was the 'big' debate of the day
[01:09] <HeatSeeker> it just stops at a text screen, but I can access the command line login via alt F1-6, and start x manually there.
[01:09] <HeatSeeker> I think it might me lightdm that's broken but I'm not sure
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 'i have a drive that does both'....'no way that's awesome'
[01:10] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  :)   Then there was  all the formats/variants the died off.. (I recall self desctucting DVD movies) ;P
[01:10] <NoCode> Hi, is there anyway to change the spacing between each 'quick launch' icon in gnome-panel in 12.04?
[01:10] <krababbel> HeatSeeker: for me lightdm often won't start automatically either. It shows me console tty1 instead and I have to start lightdm manually.
[01:10] <BluesKaj> spaceace85, I use a m-audio audiophile 192 , with spdif coax output , works greatt
[01:11] <spaceace85> BluesKaj, thanks - you using this with XBMC with no dramas?
[01:11] <joobie> guys does ubuntu run grub or grub2 natively?
[01:11] <HeatSeeker> krababbel: starting lightdm doesn't work for me, I get the same screen as I was on before.
[01:11] <dr_willis> !grub2
[01:11] <levander> BluesKaj: that's your audio card or your speakers?
[01:11] <ReXiO> Hello. Does anyone have the md5 Hashes for the image ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ?
[01:11] <dr_willis> grub2 has been the default for like 3 years. ;)
[01:11] <ReXiO> I can only find the hashes of the old 12.04 desktop image here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[01:11] <levander> BluesKaj: what speakers do you use?
[01:11] <krababbel> HeatSeeker: had that too, I tried xdm, also problems sometimes, reinstalled lightdm, and now at least I can start it like that.
[01:11] <krababbel> HeatSeeker: no idea
[01:12] <trism> ReXiO: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/MD5SUMS
[01:12] <krababbel> xdm would break pulseaudio
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> trism: nice
[01:12] <ReXiO> trism, thanks
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: or http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[01:12] <dr_willis> why would xdm break pulse audio?
[01:13] <krababbel> dr_willis: after I logged in, pulseaudio couldn't access the hw, it fell back to a dummy output, but not always :p
[01:13] <dr_willis> or course pulse audio dosent seem to make sounds here  untill i get logged in. :) i get no login sounds...  using my hdmi monitor as audio.. but i do if i use normal speakers..
[01:13] <joobie> is there a command i can run to see what version of grub i have installed?
[01:14] <dr_willis> grub --version   perhaps.
[01:14] <joobie> i did dpkg --get-selections and i see some grub ones and one grub2-common one
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> joobie: apt-cache policy grub*
[01:14] <HeatSeeker> Would it be worth me just switching to gdm or something?
[01:14] <BluesKaj> spaceace85, I tried xbmc and it worked fine , but I prefer a simpler approach with VLC ...but one thing to remember thses pci cards need pulseaudio and pavucontrol , which is basically immaterial in terms of audio quaility since it's a digital passthru
[01:14] <krababbel> dr_willis: don't know, I had issues with login managers since I installed this. I installed a command line only first, then added xorg, xdm and a window manager however.
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> HeatSeeker: worth a try
[01:14] <spaceace85> BluesKaj, thanks :)
[01:15] <dr_willis> krababbel:  sounds like some support services are not gettting started
[01:15] <krababbel> looked alright at the boot screen
[01:15] <BluesKaj> spaceace85, good luck with your search :)
[01:16] <BluesKaj> there are others that work well too
[01:16] <krababbel> someone here mentioned that plymouth is buggy, for example a plymouth script doesn't even have xdm listed among kdm, gdm... Don't know what happens really though.
[01:17] <krababbel> dr_willis: currently it works, I just have to start lightdm manually after i login to tty1
[01:17] <dr_willis> krababbel:  start it from rc.local after a slight delay. :)
[01:18] <dr_willis> slim - desktop-independent graphical login manager for X11
[01:18] <krababbel> dr_willis: also the same thing worked on a virtual test install I had done before. Thanks, will try these.
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> slim is badass
[01:18] <joobie> ActionParsnip, it says alot of 1.99 versions
[01:18] <joobie> does that mean im running grub not grub2?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> joobie: then its grub2
[01:18] <dr_willis> joobie:  that is grub2 then...
[01:19] <dr_willis> dont ask for the logic of the grub devs.. ;)
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> joobie: its been the default since Karmic back in 2009
[01:19] <joobie> I don't get it
[01:19] <joobie> when i do
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> joobie: what is the issue
[01:19] <Haligan> has anyone had a god experience running ubuntu on a macbook pro. If so dual boot or virtual?
[01:19] <joobie> apt-cache show grub2, it says something about "GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package) This is a dummy transitional package to handle GRUB 2 upgrades.  It can besafely removed."
[01:20] <dr_willis> whats sort of scary is the features grub2 has 'in the works' or just not enabled by default.. its got some really nifty features..
[01:20] <dr_willis> joobie:  so? its a transitional package for people upgradeing from eralier reelases..
[01:20] <dr_willis> the actual package name is grub-pc i belive
[01:20] <dr_willis> !info grub-pc
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> joobie: there are many metapackages like that, makes life easier
[01:20] <lidar> dr_willis: the boot .iso is next grub2 feature i plan on using
[01:20] <joobie> this is a fresh install.. if it's using grub2, why ist ehre a transitional package on there? why is it called grub2 when im supposedly runnning grub2?
[01:21] <danawar2> Hey #ubuntu a program called REMMINA a remote desktop client has appeared on my computer for no reason should i be worried?
[01:21] <dr_willis> lidar:  been using that for ages. ;)  keeping a whole .iso file (or several) on your /boot/ partition for easy rescues/reinstalls/other testing.. comes in handy
[01:21] <dr_willis> !info remmina
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> danawar2: its probably brought in by the ubuntu-desktop metapackage. It is in a default install. I wouldn't be worried at all
[01:22] <joobie> ActionParsnip, im just trying to find out if grub can load /boot from a software raid 5
[01:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:22] <joobie> ActionParsnip, started reading into it all and maybe grub2 can, but then i tried to figure out what version grub i had installed and it went downhill from there
[01:22] <danawar2> ActionParsnip: Do you think it might have installed a server and someone is trying to control my PC?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> joobie: i believe it depends on the hardware.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> danawar2: not at all
[01:22] <danawar2> ActionParsnip: The icon has never been up in the top right and it has just suddenly appared O.o
[01:23] <lidar> danawar2: if someone is controlling your pc .. atleast someone is getting some use from it !
[01:23] <joobie> ActionParsnip, how so?
[01:23] <SGT_Saunders> okay I want to thank pissedoff for the link. It helped. Now I'm in the OS and I have updated teh GFX driver.  Now it detects my monitor as a laptop monitor and will not go above 640 x 480.
[01:23] <danawar2> lidar: i dont know what that is meant to mean...
[01:24] <NoCode> Hi, is there anyway to change the spacing between each 'quick launch' icon in gnome-panel in 12.04?
[01:24] <luftikuss> danawar2: You should not worry about remmina.
[01:25] <krababbel> slim works :)
[01:25] <joobie> ActionParsnip, how does the hardware come into play with grub supporting software raid 5 for /boot?
[01:27] <Troy^> i have my ports forwards but still cant seem to ssh using my external ip address
[01:28] <krababbel> Troy^: that is vague
[01:29] <jakemp> Is there a way to detect or insert a callback when a program is returning from a context switch?
[01:29] <Troy^> krababbel: i don't know how i could be more specific lol
[01:29] <krababbel> what error
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> joobie: not sure, thats all i've seen of raid. Ive only used hard raid in linux when i've used raid
[01:29] <btcbuy314> where would be a good place to put a sound file for a function i am putting in .bashrc
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> btcbuy314: ~/Music maybe, or maka a hidden folder for it
[01:30] <btcbuy314> i want to put it somewhere that anyone can access so not in home
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> btcbuy314: anywhere will do really, as long as you have read access to the file anywhere will do
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> btcbuy314: just not in /dev or /proc
[01:34] <spiouki> hey  is  Wine bottle management safe?
[01:34] <spiouki> anybody  has ever tried it before
[01:34] <spiouki> ?
[01:35] <spiouki> seems hard to remove softwares from wine I think i need it
[01:38] <spiouki> nobody there???????????/
[01:38] <spiouki> cmon where are you guys?
[01:39] <spiouki> even the bots are gone
[01:39] <matts45acp> can someone tell me why when i log into classic gnome my log off shutdown and restart applet is gone
[01:41] <trism> matts45acp: 12.04? alt+right click the panel, add to panel, indicator applet complete
[01:42] <matts45acp> tris, linux mint 13
[01:42] <lidar> !mint
[01:47] <linus> Hello
[01:48] <linus> I appear to be having a issue with my audio
[01:49] <linus> can anyone assist me?
[01:50] <linus> I guess not
[01:55] <jakr> how can i change default boot order with multiple OS installed?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> jakr: do you want windows to be first?
[01:57] <jakr> yes i do
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> jakr: shouldv've just said so ;)
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> jakr: gimme a sec
[01:57] <allure> Hi! I've changed a variable on my.cnf (mysql-server conf) and it won't take it even after a service restart nor reboot... what should I do?
[01:57] <jakr> if I do not select windows after ten seconds of the boot screen, it goes into linux mint
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> jakr: sudo mv /etc/grub.d
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> oops
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> sec
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> jakr: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/08_os-prober
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> jakr: sudo update-grub
[02:00] <jakr> ActionParsnip, thats it?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> jakr: yes, 2 commands
[02:00] <jakr> and what will that do exactly and how did you come up with 'em?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> jakr: the number in front dictates the order, so you moved the os prober (windows one) to the top by making it lower then the linux files
[02:02] <jakr> ok thanks
[02:02] <jakr> is sudo the equivalent to the windows registry?
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> jakr: no, sudo means 'do it as root'
[02:02] <allure> super user do
[02:02] <allure> or something :)
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> jakr: as your user is only a user, it just has access to do admin tasks by using sudo (and gksudo for gui apps)
[02:03] <jakr> okk
[02:03] <jakr> ActionParsnip, have you used linux mint?
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> jakr: tried it and didn't like it
[02:04] <jakr> something about the mouse sensitivity is different from windows
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> jakr: mint isn't supported here
[02:05] <bazhang> !mintsupport | jakr
[02:05] <allure> I've changed a variable on my.cnf (mysql-server conf) and it won't take it even after a service restart nor reboot... what should I do?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> allure: ask in #mysql too
[02:06] <allure> ActionParsnip, yeah, no answer there too :)
[02:06] <allure> ActionParsnip, google was not of any help as well ...
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> allure: tried duckduckgo ?
[02:07] <allure> Why would DDG find something google woudn't?
[02:07] <UbuntuDude> Dunno if anyone is interested in my solution from earlier, a bash script allowing the insertion of a custom command into rc.local ---> http://pastebin.com/sB8GiWuB
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> allure: it doesn't bubble you and it uses a different search method
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> allure: so may give different results
[02:08] <wolfric> when you go "connect to server" and connect to ssh and get a folder view of the files there, is this mounted somewhere on the filesystem i can browse to?
[02:08] <hcecilia> ??
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: run:  mount
[02:08] <allure> ActionParsnip, still don't see the logic :)
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> allure: its like looking in 2 libraries for a book, one library doesn't have it, so try another
[02:08] <driiper> Hello! Is there anyone here that know how i can drop rejected packages instead of blocking them in the UFW firewall on ubuntu?
[02:08] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: it's nowhere listed there
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | dripper
[02:09] <jakr> ActionParsnip, thankyou
[02:09] <allure> ActionParsnip, it's like asking two librarian to search on the same library :)
[02:09] <wolfric> the files still appear in "recent files" though
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> allure: duifferent search engines use different methods to find results, so using a different search engine with the same search string will give different results
[02:09] <allure> ActionParsnip, yes, but for this problem I would have found an answer on any of it if there was one
[02:09] <driiper> lotuspsychje: i know what a firewall is, the problem is to manage it correcly. ive been trying for several hours now but cant seem to get it to work.
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> allure: just because crappy gogle can't find it doesn't man it doesn't exist
[02:10] <hcecilia> all user must use english?
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> driiper: try to describe what you wanna do in chat, more change other will be able to help
[02:10] <bazhang> hcecilia, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[02:11] <hcecilia> o~oh thank
[02:11] <driiper> Is there anyone that know how i can change the default reject method to DROP instead of BLOCK in the UFW firewall?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> allure: http://www.howtoforge.com/mysql_database_replication
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> driiper: the url showed on firewall shows iptables howto, also the DROP method...
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> allure: http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/wheres-my-cnf-file
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> allure: https://blogs.oracle.com/rainy/entry/why_isn_t_mysql_using
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> allure: that seems to be the one you want
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> allure: let me know how you go
[02:18] <allure> ActionParsnip, thank you, reading through it
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> allure: all found with duckduckgo...have you seen those pages at all?
[02:19] <allure> ActionParsnip, I was reading some other ones, this one in particular has the same problem related: http://serverfault.com/questions/394651/mysql-my-cnf-ignored
[02:23] <Lionize> anyone able to help a linux newb execute an ata secure erase using hdparm command?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Lionize: why not just use dd
[02:24] <Lionize> dd? not familiar
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Lionize: sudo if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg     to blank off /dev/sdg   with zeros
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> something like taht
[02:25] <ActionParsnip>  Lionize: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Lionize: obviously change /dev/sdg to the drive you want to erase
[02:26] <Lionize> ActionParsnip: i have a ssd and understand that secure erase is only reliable sanitization method for ssd's
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Lionize: you only need a single sweep to blank it
[02:27] <allure> ActionParsnip, none of those helped, but this looks primising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1427099
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> allure: what I used: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=my.cnf+mysql+reread
[02:28] <allure> ActionParsnip, mine was found on google.com, 3rd result with the search "my.cnf ignored"
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> allure: but you want mysql to reread the file after you made changes...
[02:29] <allure> ActionParsnip, I want it not to ignore the changes because it is being read just not taking action on it
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> allure: what about if you reboot?
[02:30] <allure> ActionParsnip, done that.. now trying to put stuff in the right section, like that site has suggested
[02:30] <epoch> hello
[02:32] <Lionize> ActionParsnip: so secure erase is not required for wiping a ssd?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Lionize: no, a single sweep of zeros will be fine
[02:33] <Guest44722> who here remebers lilo the person ?
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> Lionize: some ssd brands might requier a firmware update from their site aswell
[02:35] <Lionize> thank lotuspsychje, i will do that first
[02:37] <bazhang> !ot | Guest44722
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Lionize:what brand are you gonna install on wich ubuntu version?
[02:37] <tarvid> i want to share a USB printer connected to this desktop with MAC and Windows users, how do I do that
[02:38] <bazhang> tarvid, check the printer at linuxprinting.org database, for the first step
[02:38] <tarvid> it prints fine locally
[02:38] <Lionize> lotuspsychje: my ssd is Kingston and the ubuntu version is 12.04 i think
[02:38] <bondj> hello
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> Lionize: 32 or 64bit?
[02:39] <tarvid> I have samba server configuration up but I deon't know how to add a printer only directories
[02:39] <Lionize> lotuspsychje: 64bit
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> Lionize: nice mate that will be rock fast
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> tarvid: do you have a desktop UI?
[02:40] <Lionize> lotuspsychje: right on, screamin fast it is.
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> Lionize: i installed precise 12.04.1 64bit in 13 minutes on a transcend ssd
[02:40] <AnDsO> travid:https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[02:41] <tarvid> Yes Unity at the moment
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> tarvid: if you open the printer dialogue, you can share printers there
[02:41] <tarvid> I markied it as shared there
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> tarvid: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the printer share?
[02:43] <tarvid> Ignoring unknown parameter "update encrypted"
[02:45] <NoCode> can ext4 read/write to ntfs, as well as ntfs read/write to ext4?
[02:45] <lidar> NoCode: thats like asking if a concrete road can be a blacktop road and viceversa
[02:46] <NoCode> IS IT
[02:46] <Crowler> NoCode NO
[02:46] <NoCode> WHERE THE HELL DOES MASONRY COME TO MIND WHEN YOU'RE USING UBUNTU?
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> !caps | NoCode
[02:47] <lidar> NoCode: i was trying to use a simple term that you may be able to relate to
[02:47] <NoCode> !caps | Crowler
[02:47] <tarvid> ActionParsnip, running smbtree returns an error message Ignoring unknown parameter "update encrypted"
[02:47] <lidar> !spam > NoCode
[02:48] <NoCode> !abuse > lidar
[02:48] <lidar> lotuspsychje: what have you broken today ?
[02:48] <NoCode> Anyway, I'll try the ntfs-3g driver
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> lidar: lol funny...i had some prmosing hints yesterday, but again did not fix my square mouse
[02:49] <wan26> !ot | lotuspsychje
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> wan26??
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> lidar: a guy showed me some compiz settings to lower, but didnt do the trick
[02:51] <NoCode> It's pretty weird that I can open a mounted ntfs folder in Ubuntu, make a new folder. Close nautilus, open it again to see a folder there still.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: why so?
[02:52] <NoCode> I remember years ago that i could not do that.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: ntfs-3g isn't taht old :)
[02:52] <NoCode> I couldn't write to a ntfs
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: funny how Linux can access proprietary ntfs, but crappy windows can't access ext4 despite the data structure been freely available
[02:53] <NoCode> ActionParsnip, hmm, it can't?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: not at all
[02:54] <NoCode> ActionParsnip, can it with ext3?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntfs-3g it started in 2006
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: with 3rd party software you can get read access only
[02:54] <NoCode> damn
[02:54] <Erin> really slow read access too..
[02:54] <Erin> in my experience.
[02:55] <Crowler> NoCode now you can write to ntfs volumes. also you can go past ntfs user rights, path depth and charset limitation, making files unreadable under windows
[02:55] <NoCode> well, actually. Confusingly so, I think I did the right thing. Yeah. ntfs for windows, ntfs for storage partition, ext4 for ubuntu. So either-or can access the data.
[02:56] <NoCode> Does that sound right?
[02:56] <Erin> NoCode, its only the right way because of microsoft
[02:56] <NoCode> yea
[02:56] <NoCode> Sadly
[02:56] <Erin>        I have a hard time calling it the "right" way
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: sounds good, accommodate the Windows OS shortcomings :)
[02:56] <Erin> but it is the way that will give you the least problems
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: personally I use a fileserver, so the format is moot :). Both OSes access it the same
[02:57] <NoCode> Well, I can't call it the proper way either. Been away from Linux for too long to get another full debian installation. So, that'll have to wait a while before I do that again.
[02:57] <Erin> I love linux so much I am backing up my wifes laptop using DD over the network to my samba server. 1 command I copy the whole disk get MB/s reading timer of copy and total data copied so far. Best part is no need to take the ssd out.
[02:58] <NoCode> ActionParsnip, cool, what is the fileserver formatted to?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> NoCode: ext4
[02:58] <NoCode> hrm
[02:59] <ijat> hy guys
[03:00] <NoCode> Another question: If I install KDE, is there anyway to keep gnome programs on the gnome DE, and KDE programs on the KDE DE?
[03:00] <NoCode> I don't want that stuff intermixed.
[03:02] <Catta> does anyone feel up to helping me install damn small linux on a dell inspiron 4000? I don't know how to prepare the HD and I am getting errors like "daemon is inhibited" and that the drive is "unmountable" I have read and read, and I would really appreciate a live person with a generous heart.
[03:03] <xangua> Catta: sounds like a dsl question, you should find a propper channel for it
[03:04] <Catta> i am in the damn small linux channel. I got the same errors when trying to install in ubuntu 10.4.1 netbook.. , no one is awake in damn small linux channel, but thank you
[03:05] <lidar> Catta: people here are ubuntu centric
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> Catta: ask in the damn small channel
[03:06] <Catta> i burned iso of ubuntu 12.04.1 and also10.04 netbook ..
[03:06] <Catta> i would love to install ubuntu 10.04
[03:06] <Erin> Catta, what happens when you try to install ubuntu?
[03:06] <lidar> Catta: how about we install ubuntu? dsl is cool but fairley useless
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> Catta: on low end hardware I'd go for Lubuntu
[03:07] <Catta> it says those two errors that i typed in my first question
[03:07] <Erin> Catta, It says the drive is unmountable? is this after the formatting part ?
[03:07] <Catta> there is some fundamental thing that i am missing , how to prepare the HD i think? I tried to paritian and formatt
[03:08] <Erin> Catta, ubuntu has a gui that can auto-format for you should be no issue unless the HD is failing or bad.
[03:08] <Catta> yes, but i am not sure if I did that properly
[03:08] <Erin> its like two clicks you tell it to auto format or some equivelant
[03:09] <Catta> i removed the parition while in windows (which no longer works of course) and then tried to put in a new one and format it with the ubuntu 10.40
[03:09] <goddard> Are there any places more "offical" I can download some themes?
[03:09] <goddard> I don't want a million ppas
[03:10] <Erin> Catta, can you hit the try ubuntu without installing and then pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l ??
[03:10] <xangua> goddard: gnome-look-org
[03:12] <lidar> anyone remember lilo i was wondering if the driver was ever caught
[03:13] <Catta> I am rebooting with the 10.04 netbook ubuntu on my dell inspiron 4000
[03:13] <Erin> Catta, why use 10.04 ?
[03:13] <Erin> we're up to 12.04 :-)
[03:14] <Catta> because it is the one I have, i mistyped earlier, should I get a different version? This is such an old laptop
[03:14] <Erin> Catta, I would use 12.04 i'm sure bugfixes and new hardware compatibility have come along way since 10.04
[03:14] <Erin> and maybe the auto-format will work for you on 10.04
[03:15] <RedWar> ??
[03:15] <Catta> the first error is "the installer encountered an unrecoverable error. a desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again"
[03:16] <Erin> Catta, yea I have no idea what that means. Just do your self a favor and grab 12.04 10.04 is two releases behind. It may still be supported cause I think .04 are LTR releases but it's still old....
[03:16] <Catta> I will download the 12.04  is there a specific kind i need for my ancient laptop? like netbook edition?
[03:16] <Catta> ok I will start looking for 12.04
[03:16] <Erin> Catta, someone suggested Lubuntu due to low resources. I prefer xubuntu (xfce) my self it's low resource also but not as much as lubuntu.
[03:16] <lidar> Catta: you will be happier with lubuntu using the lxde probably
[03:16] <Erin> Catta, I am guessing if its very old you need 32-bit version of ubuntu.
[03:17] <Catta> the computer is 12 yrs old at least
[03:17] <Catta> laptop
[03:17] <Erin> Catta, what processor is in it.
[03:17] <Erin> oh definently 32-bit then i'd guess..
[03:17] <Studious> I accidentally on purpose deleted my cpu from my sisters board, what to do now?
[03:17] <Erin> Studious, lmao.... what does that even mean
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Erin: not all .04 release are LTS
[03:18] <Erin> ActionParsnip, ah whats the cycle then?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Erin: 8.04, 12.04, 14.04, 16.04
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Erin: every 2 years
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Erin: 10.04 too
[03:19] <Catta> I am downloading lubuntu 12.04 iso
[03:19] <lidar> Catta: 32 bit ?
[03:19] <Catta> yes thank you
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> sadly ubuntu 12.04 isn't LTS (annoying)
[03:19] <Erin> ActionParsnip, oh I thought it was!
[03:19] <ebs512> hey guys I need help making a desktop icon launcher to run everything in sudo so I can create/edit files in the /usr /etc directories
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Erin: sadly not
[03:19] <Erin> Catta, is that the hard drive that came with that laptop IE 12 years old ?
[03:20] <Erin> Catta, if so I'd venture it is dying crazy it made it this long HD's usually don't last 12 years...
[03:20] <Catta> let me check the laptop, since i have ubuntu 10.04 open on it but not installed
[03:22] <joobie> guys im trying to install "sgdisk".. I did "apt-get install sgdisk" and it didnt come up.. any idea where to from here?
[03:22] <joobie> is there a more general repo i should add ?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> !find sgdisk
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> joobie: sudo apt-get install gdisk
[03:23] <Catta> umm I am having trouble finding the laptops stats, but it has a celeron (coppermine) processor
[03:24] <ebs512> is nobody using ubuntu 12.04 that can help me out?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Catta: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: ask and see
[03:24] <WeThePeople> ebs512, just ask
[03:24] <joobie> thanks ActionParsnip
[03:24] <Cong> !find gedit
[03:25] <ebs512> I forgot how I did this on the desktop but am trying to do it again on the laptop, I made a launcher icon that launches a file explorer with sudo permissions so I can add and edit files
[03:25] <ebs512> like in /etc folder
[03:25] <natsirt> Does anyone here understand linux scripting wothot nmap?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: make it run:  gksudo nautilus $HOME
[03:26] <natsirt> join #bash
[03:26] <WeThePeople> natsirt, maybe #nmap
[03:27] <WeThePeople> too
[03:27] <ebs512> How can I make that an icon ActionParsnip, thank you for that
[03:27] <Catta> i used that command ActionParsnip  , what info should I share?
[03:27] <Cong> !gksudo >cong
[03:28] <lidar> Catta: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep -i mhz
[03:28] <Erin> Catta, launch the command "palimpsest" from the terminal and select your hd on the left does it have a green circle for healthy drive or does it report errors ??
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: copy one of the .desktop files from ~/.config/autostart   and edit it
[03:30] <Catta> Erin: next the smart status is is green circle
[03:31] <Catta> i currently have 3 broken laptops and 1 broken netbook and this old one is the most reliable of them all
[03:31] <Crowler> what is min ram for lubuntu? it may not run on default inspiron's 128 meg
[03:32] <Erin> Catta, lol if you hit smart data button and run self test lets see if it passes
[03:32] <Erin> Catta, select extended test, how big is the drive might take a bit.
[03:32] <Catta> i did that earlier, i will again, i didnt know what i was checking earlier :D
[03:32] <Catta> its 10gig
[03:32] <Erin> oh do the extended test and the conveyance then. since its so small
[03:33] <Erin> how long does it say for power on years?
[03:33] <Catta> this is taking longer because the mouse nub is posessed and it is ignoring my usb mouse somewhat because of this
[03:33] <RedWar> test
[03:35] <mangdood_> Is there an easy way to print several opendocument files? From command line or something?
[03:35] <foul_owl> What is the command to update library paths for an elf binary? I have installed libstdc++5 but the binary still can't find it
[03:35] <Catta> what worries me the most about this inspiron 4000 is that until I plugged it in recently the CD drive did not work for years , so i was stuck with windows, because it does not boot from usb.. now that the cd drive is running i want to hurry and get ubuntu on it!
[03:36] <Lionize> ActionParsnip: could you please clarify the basic procedure for wiping with "dd" so i can plan this thing out. do you know of a wiki or something i might get some instructions from?
[03:36] <Crowler> you just said you cant unscrew 4 screws for years
[03:38] <lickalott> Lionize just google dd (ubuntu)
[03:38] <lickalott> there is a pretty comprehensive forum guide on it.
[03:39] <Crowler> Lionize you have to feed dd with actual name of your hdd in your system
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> Lionize: have all partitions on the drive unmounted and then run:    sudo dd if=/dev/zero /dev/sdg     this will go from the start of the storage to the end writing 0s.
[03:39] <lickalott> usually dd if=/dev/??? of=/dev/???  where if = input file/drive and of = output file/drive.  Not completely familar with wiping
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> !google | lickalott
[03:39] <lickalott> well....there you go
[03:40] <lickalott> no disrepect intended ActionParsnip, that's what I indicated what to google.  *noted
[03:40] <spiouki> hey Im compiling a package and I cant configure it. please help
[03:41] <Erin> Lionize, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/device  (like /dev/sda) you can use sudo fdisk -l to pick which one
[03:41] <Erin> Lionize, then do sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/device
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> spiouki: is there not a PPA for the application?
[03:42] <Catta> lidar: what was the command you gave me to do?
[03:43] <foul_owl> What is the command to update library paths for an elf binary? I have installed libstdc++5 but the binary still can't find it
[03:43] <Lionize> wow, i better use google first...
[03:43] <spiouki> what is ppa. is it deb package?
[03:43] <foul_owl> ldd shows "libstdc++.so.5 => not found"
[03:43] <Erin> Lionize, here is a command with a nice progress bar:    sudo dd if=input_file | pv -s `du -bc input_file | cut -f 1 --output-delimiter=" " | head -1` | sudo dd of=output_file
[03:43] <spiouki> I cant find any deb package for it its just tar.bz2
[03:44] <Crowler> foul_owl ldconfig? it was so lond ago that im not sure if it is right one
[03:44] <MonkeyDust> spiouki  a deb for what?
[03:45] <foul_owl> I ran ldconfig, still having the problem :/
[03:46] <Catta> can someone please tell me how to disable the dell inspiron 4000's touchpad and nub mouse? I thought i had it disabled in bios, but it is ghosting and clicking all over the screen.. I already tried in mouse and then keyboard options?
[03:46] <Catta> in ubuntu 10.04
[03:46] <Cong> won't using sudo for console apps make the specified file be owned by root
[03:46] <systm> what do i need to do to add universe to apt sources from terminal. I'm ssh'd from a remote laptop
[03:47] <kiyoura> Catta, i hope there is a better known solution now, but about 3 years ago i had to take apart my dell latitude c610 and manually 'cut' the line to the nub mouse for it to work in linux
[03:47] <Catta> I might try that in the future.
[03:48] <gravity__> micro sd card does not mount on ubunut. It does not even show up on camera. It shows up on fedora but I cannot access files. help
[03:48] <Erin> Catta, after 12 years you are not thinking about upgrading that laptop ?
[03:48] <spiouki1> sorry i got some connection problems did anybody answered my question?
[03:49] <spiouki1> about compiling a package?
[03:49] <lidar> wb me
[03:49] <Erin> systm, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and include the universe lines, you can find them on google
[03:49] <Erin> systm, then do sudo apt-get update
[03:49] <spiouki1> wb
[03:49] <systm> thanks Erin
[03:49] <gravity__> erin: micro sd card does not mount on ubunut. It does not even show up on camera. It shows up on fedora but I cannot access files. help
[03:49] <Catta> I have a dell studio, but my daughter's netbook that I put ubuntu on for her has a broken charger and I am trying to fix this one so that she can do her homework until I can fix the netbook or one of the other paper weights around here
[03:50] <lidar> ty spiouki1
[03:50] <gravity__> Erin:micro sd card does not mount on ubunut. It does not even show up on camera. It shows up on fedora but I cannot access files. help
[03:50] <spiouki1> I need to compile a bz2 package but I cant configure it
[03:50] <Crowler> gravity__ trash it
[03:50] <spiouki1> there is no conf file in that folder
[03:50] <gravity__> Crowler need the files on it
[03:50] <spiouki1> please help
[03:50] <gravity__> ready to trash it
[03:50] <lidar> spiouki1: what program is it ?
[03:50] <Catta> I got her netbook with ubuntu Erin , specifically because I wanted her to learn it! but I had never had experience before then
[03:51] <Crowler> gravity__ im not doing data recovery
[03:51] <spiouki1> wine bottle management
[03:51] <spiouki1> its for uninstalling programs from wine
[03:51] <Erin> gravity__, pastebin for me sudo fdisk -l
[03:51] <gravity__> Crowler: Thanks. do you konw any resources which can help?
[03:51] <Erin> gravity__, with the card inserted
[03:51] <spiouki1> I got it from source forge
[03:51] <gravity__> Erin: on it
[03:51] <gravity__> yes
[03:52] <Crowler> gravity__ i know some, but they are not in english
[03:52] <Erin> Catta, just saying a 12 year old computer is really really outdated.
[03:52] <spiouki1> and if you used it before I will be happy to give me your comment
[03:52] <Catta> Erin: I accidentally closed the HD check when I closed the command prompt :(
[03:52] <Anom01y> man I cannot do updates all of a sudden in Xubuntu 12.04, I get this error:
[03:52] <Anom01y> http://www.naturalnews.com/037024_sodium_fluoride_insecticide_proof.html
[03:52] <Anom01y> er
[03:52] <FloodBot1> Anom01y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <Anom01y> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[03:52] <Anom01y> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA
[03:53] <lidar> spiouki1: you dont "need" that
[03:53] <Erin> Anom01y, I hate when my computer gets insecticides in it.
[03:53] <Anom01y> (sorry didn't mean to paste the link
[03:53] <Catta> At least the 12.04 is almost finished dling
[03:53] <gravity__> Erin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179047/
[03:53] <spiouki1> so how can i uninstall wine applications?
[03:53] <Anom01y> gnome-terminal doesn't accept ctrl-C for copy
[03:53] <Anom01y> only right click -> copy
[03:53] <gravity__> Crowler: I will try google translate. can you point me to them?
[03:53] <Erin> Anom01y, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:53] <Anom01y> Erin, thanks
[03:53] <lidar> spiouki1: rm -rf ~/.wine will remove all bits of it .. menu items may remain
[03:54] <Crowler> gravity__ hdd911.com
[03:54] <Anom01y> Erin, I get the same error
[03:54] <spiouki1> never used that command
[03:54] <xangua> Anom01y: control-shift+c , control+shift+v
[03:54] <lidar> spiouki1: it is delete
[03:54] <Erin> Anom01y, k hold on
[03:54] <gravity__> Crowler: Domain expired
[03:54] <Erin> gravity__, does not look like the card is showing up the OS
[03:55] <lidar> spiouki1: the directory ~/.wine is where allo files settings go
[03:55] <Anom01y> Erin, http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[03:55] <Anom01y> ^
[03:55] <spiouki1> lidar: can you give me the command for uninstalling software X from wine
[03:55] <gravity__> Erin: let me try a different card reader
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> lidar: why use force?
[03:55] <Crowler> gravity__ then i knew some, but not now
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: run:  uninstaller
[03:56] <lidar> ActionParsnip: im a violent person
[03:56] <Anom01y> xangua, thanks
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> lidar: its a bad habit
[03:56] <Catta> Erin: also, I bought a hp pavillion ze2000, and the power plug into it doesn't work.. then I bought a toshiba satellite, and it stopped working for who knows what reason, it wont even make a blip... and then the dell mini netbook and my studio.. so I have bought other laptops in 12 years, but the old inspiron is the only one i can get to work beside the one i am using right now!
[03:56] <hqm> hello!~
[03:57] <Erin> Anom01y, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:57] <spiouki1> did nt work action please give me the complete command I dont know terminals lang
[03:58] <Erin> Anom01y, did that work, if not remove any google repositories as it seems to be mad at something google related
[03:58] <lidar> spiouki1: run wine ~/.wine/drive_c/program files/x/uninstaller.exe is the polite way from ActionParsnip
[03:58] <Anom01y> Erin, it didn't work,
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: thats all it is:  uninstaller
[03:58] <Anom01y> Erin, are you talking about /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:58] <Erin> Anom01y, indeed
[03:59] <Erin> Anom01y, then run sudo apt-get update
[03:59] <Anom01y> Erin, thats  just it, there is no "google" in sources.list
[04:00] <joobie> guys im using this OS called XBMCbuntu, which is a port of Ubuntu
[04:00] <Erin> Anom01y, remove anything that isn't *.ubuntu.com*
[04:01] <lidar> joobie: a port to what ?
[04:01] <joobie> the installer doesnt have any options to setup RAID5 software.. is there a work around anyone can think of to get it to install with softwqre raid?
[04:01] <Anom01y> ok
[04:01] <joobie> lidar, it's based on ubuntu 11, but they have embedded XBMC onto it
[04:01] <foul_owl> Ok, I solved the issue. The issue was that my elf binary was compiled for a 32 bit system, it didn't have the 32 bit version of libstdc++5. Thanks for the help!
[04:01] <Catta>  I booted up lubuntu 12.4 and selected check disk for errors, is that correct?
[04:01] <Anom01y> trying to submit a post to pastebin but its lagging like hell Erin
[04:02] <spiouki1> lidar: uninstaller does not exist for that package
[04:02] <Anom01y> Erin, http://pastebin.com/ethQM3JP
[04:03] <Anom01y> I don't see anything relevent to the issue in my sources.list ^ check my pastebin
[04:03] <WeThePeople> joobie, do you have a question?
[04:04] <Anom01y> this is the error, Reading package lists... Error!
[04:04] <Anom01y> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[04:04] <Anom01y> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA
[04:04] <spiouki1> ActionParsnip: uninstaller does not exist for that package
[04:05] <Erin> Anom01y, can you pastebin your exact error.
[04:05] <Erin> k nm
[04:05] <Erin> Anom01y, some probem with google earth it looks like
[04:05] <WeThePeople> spioukil, are you trying to remove a package
[04:05] <Crowler> Anom01y so what? trash that broken aptlist and re-dl it
[04:06] <Anom01y> Erin, http://pastebin.com/8QnM168S
[04:06] <joobie> WeThePeople, is there a way to get a port of ubuntu 11 which does not have raid support in the installer to install with software RAID or convert it easily after?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: or jus the uninstaller app for the applcation you want to uninstall, just like in windows
[04:07] <Erin> Anom01y, yea just delete that file
[04:07] <Anom01y> Crowler, I would but not sure what to remove everything looks important
[04:07] <Anom01y> delete sources.list ??!
[04:07] <Erin> Anom01y, back it up first.
[04:07] <spiouki1> I m doing the same its fun. Thanks ActionParsnip and lidar
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Anom01y: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[04:07] <lidar> joobie: that xbmc installs on any linux .. just install ubuntu then install it
[04:07] <Erin> Anom01y, no. /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_blah_blah
[04:07] <Crowler> Anom01y you must be blind:  /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA
[04:08] <WeThePeople> spioukil, http://askubuntu.com/questions/101064/uninstall-a-program-installed-with-wine
[04:08] <Erin> ActionParsnip, I'm gonna snag that also :-D
[04:09] <Anom01y> ok thanks guys
[04:10] <Anom01y> I deleted /var/lib/apt/dl.google*.*
[04:10] <Anom01y> fixed my problems
[04:10] <Catta> What age is old enough to start with ubuntu?
[04:10] <Anom01y> usually dpkg --configure -a  or   sudo apt-get -f install fixes all my issues
[04:10] <Anom01y> not sure how that happened
[04:10] <joobie> lidar, i want to try stick with xbmcbuntu's port tho
[04:10] <joobie> it's just they have used the live cd i think so there's no raid option
[04:10] <Crowler> Catta age of consent
[04:11] <Catta> Crowler:  conset to what haha
[04:11] <Crowler> Catta to start with ofc
[04:12] <lidar> Catta: your probably old enough since you made it on irc
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Erin: its just the commands from the synaptic fix page page, in a script
[04:12] <joobie> is there a way to make the liveCD see my preexisting software raid partitoins? if i create them first
[04:12] <jeffrey1790> question with mdadm: i replaced a faulty drive in my raid6 array. when adding it back, it shows up as sdg instead of sdg1... does it matter?
[04:12] <Erin> ActionParsnip, Yea I just have a linux fixes folder that I like to have alot of info in for potential issues and that looks pretty thorough for fixing apt :-)
[04:13] <jeffrey1790> md0 : active raid6 sdh[7] sdf1[0] sde1[5] sdd1[4] sdc1[3] sdb1[2] sdg[6]
[04:15] <WeThePeople> joobie, i do not understand the question
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Erin: want my getkey script?
[04:15] <Erin> ActionParsnip, what key now?
[04:15] <joobie> WeThePeople, nevermind
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Erin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179062/     useful for when you add PPAs and you don't get the GPG key, just give the script the GPG code and it wil import it for you
[04:16] <spiouki1> lidar: still there?
[04:16] <Erin> ActionParsnip, i've only ever used one ppa
[04:17] <sxh_> hello
[04:17] <Erin> ActionParsnip, don't they always give you the gpg key w/ the ppa info isn't it rquired?
[04:17] <sxh_> would i be able to ask for help on this channel?
[04:17] <sxh_> or is there a specific ubuntu help channel
[04:17] <Erin> sxh_, you're in it
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> Erin: if you don't use add-apt-repository  then it won't import
[04:18] <spiouki1> just for learning purpose i want to know how to install a package without conf file
[04:18] <sxh_> oo okay great
[04:18] <spiouki1> anybody ? lidar or ActionParsnip
[04:18] <doslove> hi guys
[04:18] <sxh_> not asking anyone particular but, I tried to partition my hard drive to dual boot ubuntu and windows7
[04:18] <sxh_> and semi failed
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: how do you mean 'conf file?
[04:18] <sxh_> if someone can help me out that would be great
[04:18] <Erin> sxh_, did you install ubuntu first then windows 7 ?
[04:19] <sxh_> Erin, I already had windows 7, and then installed ubuntu via cd
[04:19] <sxh_> I semi failed in that luckily i didnt delete the windows partition
[04:19] <sxh_> but i cant access
[04:19] <sxh_> even if i use f12 at boot
[04:19] <spiouki1> I extracted the tar.bz2 file but I cant use the configure command on that directory it does not work
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: not all apps need to have configure ran. Did you check the INSTAL or README files?
[04:20] <sxh_> if theres a way i can show my gparted screen im sure itll help
[04:20] <WeThePeople> spioukil, did you type ./configure
[04:20] <joobie> is there a way to see pre-existing software RAID partitions from the Ubuntu Live CD installer?
[04:20] <AnDsO> check README or INSTALL file
[04:20] <Cong> or tried updating the configure script
[04:20] <jeang> joobie - not really, the software configs will be inaccessable
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: what are you trying to install?
[04:21] <spiouki1> yep
[04:21] <joobie> jeang, i cant somehow install mdadm and then run the installer?
[04:21] <user> hello everybody !!
[04:21] <lidar> spiouki1: yes sort of
[04:22] <sxh_> Erin, if I can still see my installed files, documents, etc that means I didn't delete it right?
[04:22] <spiouki1> no instal file or readme
[04:22] <jeang> joobie unless you have the configs for the RAID backed up, mdadm will try create a new raid structure and hose the partitions etc
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: what are you trying to install?
[04:22] <Erin> sxh_, right
[04:23] <spiouki1>                   Wine bottle management     beta
[04:23] <spiouki1> no going to install it I just want to know how to do it
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: is it not in the wine ppa?
[04:23] <Crowler> joobie is your raid bios made or linux made?
[04:23] <lidar> spiouki1: cd into the directory .. ~/.wine/drivec/programfiles/ then rm -rf offensive-program directory
[04:23] <joobie> Crowler, linux
[04:24] <sxh_> Erin, so basically my windows 7 is under /dev/sda3 while ubuntu is under /dev/sda1 however my windows doesnt have a mount point
[04:24] <sxh_> I feel like i simply need to add that
[04:24] <Crowler> joobie you can hook it up later after install
[04:24] <joobie> jeang, cant i like boot the live cd to the shell, install mdadm, configure mdadm partitons, then run the installer and dont specify partition reforatming?
[04:24] <Erin> sxh_, so whats the issue you can't boot in to windows?
[04:25] <joobie> Crowler, possible to do it during installation tho?
[04:25] <joobie> i can do the after install option.
[04:25] <joobie> but want to try during
[04:25] <Crowler> Erin he cant boot linux
[04:25] <sxh_> Erin, by default I set it up to boot to ubuntu, however when I press f12 to access the other partition it doesnt exist, which I feel like is due to there being no mount point for it
[04:25] <Erin> sxh_, i'd try to reinstall grub?
[04:25] <spiouki1> cool thanks lidar and action. and i dont know what is ppa action
[04:25] <sxh_> Erin, is there a simpler way in which I can just add the mount point to the windows partition?
[04:25] <Erin> sxh_, wait wait so you can boot ubuntu/windows i'm getting confused
[04:25] <jeang> joobie do you have the configs for how the partitions were created?
[04:26] <sxh_> Erin, sorry!
[04:26] <spiouki1> it does not seem lake wine application
[04:26] <Crowler> joobie i dont know if mdadm and other tools are part od ubuntu's stage2
[04:26] <sxh_> Erin, I can only boot ubuntu, windows still exists but isnt showing up when i boot
[04:26] <Crowler> of*
[04:26] <user> anybody can help me ?
[04:26] <spiouki1> it was tar.bz2 no exe
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> user: without asking a question..no
[04:26] <histo> !ask | user
[04:26] <joobie> jeang, i havent created the partitions yet
[04:26] <WeThePeople> user, just ask
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> spiouki1: i found this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wibom-manage-wine-program-bottles.html
[04:27] <Erin> sxh_, so just do a sudo update-grub
[04:27] <Erin> sxh_, and reboot.
[04:27] <joobie> jeang, i am thinking is it possible to boot to CLI from the live cd, install mdadm, create my partitions, then run the installerand have the installer just see them, not format them
[04:27] <jeang> joobie - ok sorry, thought you had lost a raid array and were trying to get the data back.
[04:27] <sxh_> Erin, lol I wish I knew what that meant (I'm noob)
[04:27] <user> that's okay
[04:27] <joobie> jeang, nope
[04:27] <spiouki1> Thanks ActionParsnip
[04:27] <Erin> sxh_, it just tells grub to scan for operating systems and add to the list.
[04:27] <joobie> OK how about this
[04:28] <sxh_> Erin, oh type that into terminal?
[04:28] <jeang> joobie - actually no idea... sees some trial and error in my future ;-)
[04:28] <joobie> from the LiveCD, can i boot to shell and then run the installer myself? If so, how?
[04:28] <WeThePeople> sxh_, G.R.U.B = Grand Unified Bootloader
[04:28] <user> well my question is about "ubuntu tweak "  i can't see "gnome sittings" ?
[04:28] <sxh_> WeThePeople that sounds pretty cool actually
[04:28] <jeang> joobie you will have to create some form of persistent partition on USB
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> user: I sugest you contact the developer
[04:29] <user> how i can connect with them ?
[04:29] <sxh_> Erin, ok did the sudoupdate-grub, and it seemed to find it I think I'm going to restart to check. Thanks a lot!
[04:29] <Erin> sxh_, no type it in the air, LOL JK :-)
[04:29] <user> i just want to change that ubuntu icon not more
[04:29] <Crowler> joobie you better ask "what to press to get to console"
[04:29] <WeThePeople> sxh_, lol GR.U.B
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> user: check the PPA maintainers list
[04:30] <Crowler> joobie (at install time
[04:31] <user> that's ok but i dont think it's a big deal to do all that just for change ubuntu main menu icon ! dont you agree ?
[04:31] <user> i am pretty sure there's one other way at least to change it
[04:32] <jeang> joobie - also see if mdadm is part of the server (alternate) live cd
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> user: https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix
[04:32] <joobie> jeang, it is apart of the alternate live cd
[04:32] <joobie> but im using a port of ubuntu known as XBMCbuntu
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> user: I'd say it was fairly trivial
[04:32] <zukirep> Erin, had my name changed but unfortunately the sudogrub-update didnt work :(
[04:32] <Crowler> joobie if there is a way to run console at install time, run it, type in mdadm, and if you get back "not found" - forget your idea
[04:32] <joobie> they have built that image on ubuntu live cd
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> joobie: xbmcubuntu isn't supported here
[04:33] <kieppie> hi guys. can I hotswap/hotplug a SATA drive?
[04:33] <joobie> it's more a generic ubuntu question
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> joobie: none of the 'ubuntu based' distributions are supported here
[04:33] <Erin> zukirep, you sure it doesn't show up in the list?
[04:33] <vibhav> joobie: We dont support un-official derivatives of ubuntu
[04:34] <joobie> Crowler, any idea what that installer is called to run it if i do get into console?
[04:34] <kieppie> I have ejectable mounts connected to internal SATA busses, but need to know if I need to power down first?
[04:34] <zukirep> Erin, yep besides a cd option there is only one harddrive option
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: i'd check your manual
[04:34] <kieppie> or can I just load without risking my busses??
[04:34] <joobie> this Q is more drawing from general ubuntu knowledge
[04:34] <kieppie> :/
[04:34] <Erin> zukirep, I am talking about the grub list.
[04:34] <zukirep> Erin, I feel like I know the answer though if I can only figure out how to do it....
[04:34] <zukirep> Erin, oo
[04:34] <Erin> zukirep, it will show up in the grub list.
[04:34] <joobie> like for example, how can you boot the Ubuntu Live CD to shell and then spawn the installer manually from the CLI
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: be sure you unmount and eject the partitions on the drive before you eject the drive in ubuntu. Then you can physically eject the device
[04:35] <zukirep> Erin, sorry but how do I find the grub list?
[04:35] <Erin> zukirep, I think you hold down shift when it starts?
[04:35] <jeang> joobie - apt-get install mdadm?
[04:35] <zukirep> Erin, oo okay I'll try that!
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> joobie: the installer is called ubiquity
[04:35] <Crowler> joobie i dont have any ubuntu distros on hands atm, so im of no help
[04:35] <joobie> jeang, that will instal mdadm.. but how do you get to console from the livecd?
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> joobie: press CTRL+ALT+F1
[04:36] <joobie> ahh k
[04:36] <joobie> I tried that before ActionParsnip, but it gave me another workspace
[04:36] <joobie> not the CLI
[04:37] <user> i dont think it's fairly trivial as you said cos sometimes it works but not all the time , i mean ubuntu icon maybe you like it and it's fine for you but for other people they feel curious to change it
[04:37] <joobie> ActionParsnip, is there a way to spawn ubiquity from the cli?
[04:37] <jeang> joobie ctrl.alt.F2
[04:37] <user> and same for me i am just new and feel curious to see and make other things so i never stop searching  but i fed up that's it ! that's why i asked this question here
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> joobie: no idea, why not just install xubuntu or Ubuntu proper, then install xbmc and get full support here rather than some crappy spinoff?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> joobie: which has no support here
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> joobie: xbmc is in the official repos you know
[04:39] <joobie> ActionParsnip, im presuming that specific build of xbmcbuntu has some specific xbmc code / versioning in the packages
[04:40] <h00k> /2
[04:40] <joobie> like given that it's a specific port of Ubuntu for XBMC
[04:40] <lidar> http://imgur.com/Ckt45 my cool desktop
[04:41] <xangua> !ot | lidar
[04:41] <matt_> help
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> joobie: its not suported here, thats a massive point. your support community will be a lot smaller
[04:41] <user> oh amazing desktop
[04:41] <matt_> lol
[04:41] <user> how did you mange icon ?
[04:41] <Guest78983> yolo
[04:41] <user> i think they are small a little bit
[04:41] <lidar> !ot > xangua
[04:41] <Guest78983> i am an ubuntu noob lol
[04:42] <Crowler> joobie i have a feeling, that if you would spend all the time you wasted here, reading boot menu of your live cd, you'd find the answer already
[04:42] <WeThePeople> lidar, dude you need a dock :)
[04:42] <joobie> ActionParsnip, i hear ya.. but once it's installed with RAID, it'll pretty much be Ubuntu
[04:42] <joobie> just with slightly diff packages
[04:42] <Calinou> lidar, lmao :)
[04:43] <joobie> Crowler, been rebooting and mofiying the boot options a few times, but so far no good
[04:43] <lidar> WeThePeople: ill try to find one
[04:43] <Crowler> joobie i said boot menu, not options
[04:44] <WeThePeople> lidar, may i recommend GLX-Dock "cairo"
[04:44] <WeThePeople> software center
[04:44] <lidar> WeThePeople: watch it xangua is gonna be telling you to stay on topic soon !
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> joobie: doesn't matter what it pretty much is, it's not ubuntu. Ubuntu is based on debian but if you ask for ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[04:45] <WeThePeople> xangua, srry
[04:45] <WeThePeople> lidar, lol
[04:45] <Crowler> joobie also, console may be hidden somewhere in advanced options of installer. check them out too
[04:45] <joobie> ok i got it to the cli
[04:45] <joobie> just put 3 at the end of boot options
[04:45] <lidar> WeThePeople: software center wont work ..that screen shot i posted is my windows
[04:45] <joobie> but tried init 5 and it doesnt go to xorg
[04:45] <joobie> nor obquity
[04:46] <zukirep> hey Erin, trying to edit the grub file (Grub_hidden_timeout to 1 instead of 0) to give myself more time to press the shift key but i cant save changes
[04:46] <Erin> zukirep, use sudo
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> zukirep: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub    and you will
[04:46] <zukirep> ah I see
[04:46] <WeThePeople> lidar, oh your good
[04:46] <Erin> zukirep, learn to use nano it's awesome!
[04:46] <zukirep> Erin saw nano in some guide but wasnt sure what that was
[04:47] <Erin> zukirep, sudo nano /etc/default/grub   make the changes and hit ctrl+x to save.
[04:47] <Erin> zukirep, command line txt editor.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> ctrl+o to save :)
[04:47] <Erin> its x..
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Erin: ctrl+x is exit
[04:48] <Erin> ActionParsnip, ahh, but it does ask you to save :-)
[04:48] <zukirep> umm tried ctrl+o
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Erin: yes, but if you want to just save, its +o
[04:48] <zukirep> oo ok ill just ctrl x to exit and save
[04:48] <spooky> kewl, dumped windows 4 linux - don't look back :-)
[04:48] <Erin> ActionParsnip, true
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Erin: you can hit CTRL+o then CTRL+x and it saves then exist
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> exits
[04:48] <Erin> ActionParsnip, thats 2x the work though.
[04:48] <zukirep> cool though
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Erin: true
[04:49] <Erin> zukirep, ctrl+w and you can search for stuff.
[04:49] <Erin> nano is t3h pwnz0r :-)
[04:49] <zukirep> Erin, so is nano used to open those files in the terminal screen?
[04:49] <Erin> zukirep, indeed.
[04:49] <Erin> open+edit
[04:49] <zukirep> oo kk
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> although running it with sudo makes the nano_history file be owned by root (annoying)
[04:49] <Erin> ActionParsnip, but you have to run it as root to edit most system stuff right?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Erin: yes, its an annoying bug
[04:50] <Erin> ActionParsnip, what is nano history anyway? I never use it I think..
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> Erin: its the history of files nano has opened:  $HOME/.nano_history   running it with sudo will make the file be owned by root
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> Erin: so when you run it you will get a warning that the file cannot be updated
[04:52] <user> is there anybody here would like to help me ?
[04:53] <WeThePeople> user, just ask
[04:53] <Erin> ActionParsnip, yea I always get that warning, just ignore it :-)
[04:54] <user> i dont know what's going on with this version : 12.04 : << ehh it seems i am done
[04:54] <WeThePeople> user, ask your question
[04:55] <user> i have too many issues , i installed dockbarx and i doesnt work too , i installed ubuntu tweak but i can not see gnome sitting dont tell me search cos if you said that i will break this screen
[04:55] <zukirep> Erin, to update on my quest to find windows, I pressed shift and saw lots of options and didnt know what to do
[04:56] <Erin> zukirep, well did one say windows 7 ?
[04:56] <zukirep> Erin, nope but there was like grub update, and various other options
[04:56] <WeThePeople> user, where did you get dockbarx
[04:56] <zukirep> nothing about windows 7
[04:57] <Erin> zukirep, on the list with like linux 2.6.0 or whatever it doesn't say windows at all? even after sudo update-grub
[04:57] <Erin> if so im not sure what else you can do..
[04:57] <user> from that site gnome.look.org
[04:57] <Gyro54> How can I continue with an upgrade to 12.04 from the shell after it was stopped with ctrl/c?
[04:57] <Erin> zukirep, you are going to need to manually add it then.
[04:57] <zukirep> Erin, ah okay... ill figure it out at somepoint
[04:57] <Erin> zukirep, sry not sure what else to tell you.
[04:57] <user> i installed it in version 10.04 it works + its great there
[04:58] <WeThePeople> user, if you are new to linux i would recommend you get all software from the software center
[04:58] <zukirep> Erin, thats okay I learned a lot of useful things anyway
[04:58] <BentFranklin> How do I find the anme of my sound card's driver?
[04:58] <Gyro54> It was at the remove old programs stage
[04:58] <user> well that's okay but i can't find what i want in software center not all the time !
[04:58] <Erin> Ben64, can try lsmod | grep snd
[04:59] <Gyro54> After a 5 hour upgrade
[05:00] <Crowler> you must be on dialup...
[05:00] <Erin> Dial-up still exists lol?
[05:00] <Crowler> why not?
[05:00] <WeThePeople> its free
[05:00] <Erin> Crowler, was making a joke. sorry it wasn't funny :-)
[05:01] <user> so i dont think there's answer for my question
[05:01] <BentFranklin> Erin: Could it be snd-pcm?
[05:01] <user> that's why people call ubuntu truck then
[05:01] <Erin> BentFranklin, what kind of snd card ?
[05:01] <WeThePeople> user, are you trying to install a theme
[05:01] <lidar> its been so many years since i configured ppp i wouldnt be able to get online
[05:01] <BentFranklin> Erin: Don't know.  I guess that's the problem.
[05:01] <Erin> BentFranklin, pastebin lspci -vv
[05:02] <Crowler> Erin think i got offended?
[05:02] <Adie> guys
[05:02] <Adie> I have a broblem
[05:02] <lidar> !ask
[05:02] <Gyro54> Where can I go to fix this problem. I think I have killed it!
[05:02] <user> it's not a theme they are just small tools < dockbarx applet for making taskbar like win 7 i have tried everything
[05:02] <WeThePeople> adie, whats your broblem
[05:02] <Erin> Crowler, well honestly I wouldn't care if you did
[05:02] <Adie> when I click my right side mouse bottons, the mouse freezes till I replug it in
[05:02] <Crowler> BentFranklin snd-pcm is not your casd driver
[05:02] <Adie> on my steel series sensai
[05:02] <user> it's so stupid to spend weeks and days just for small tool !
[05:02] <Adie> it's weird.
[05:02] <Catta> and that's what she said
[05:02] <crimsonmane> steel series is garbage.
[05:03] <WeThePeople> user, you on 12.04
[05:03] <user> yes i am
[05:03] <Adie> crimsonmane, no it's not -.-
[05:03] <Crowler> BentFranklin card driver name most of time is same as name of card's chipset
[05:03] <crimsonmane> it most certainly is. cheap plastic, cheap buttons
[05:03] <WeThePeople> user, name one thing you would like to take care of
[05:03] <Adie> crimsonmane, fine plastic, same buttons as everyone else
[05:03] <Gyro54> It is at the command prompt and I don't want to touch it in case I break it completely.
[05:04] <user> dockbarx applet in the panel <<
[05:04] <Gyro54> Can I just reboot?
[05:04] <BentFranklin> Erin: Crowler: I found it, snd-intel-8x0 probably on board sound
[05:04] <crimsonmane> Adie: i've used them. they're entirely too bulky yet lightweight.
[05:04] <Crowler> BentFranklin or, ac97/hdaudio, in case of built-in sound
[05:04] <crimsonmane> Adie: what's i'm saying is, get a different mouse and see if you have the same problem
[05:04] <Erin> BentFranklin, if you pastebin lspci I can figure it out
[05:04] <Adie> maybe what you used was a bad model, but I have a good mouse ^_^
[05:04] <Erin> BentFranklin, is your sound not working or something
[05:04] <Adie> I don't have any other mice
[05:04] <user> how can i install it is there any official way for it
[05:04] <Adie> like I said, it's only the two right side buttons
[05:05] <Adie> dunno why that would make my mouse lock
[05:05] <WeThePeople> user, user, how did you install
[05:05] <crimsonmane> Adie: if you don't have another mouse to try, then your problem cannot be properly diagnosed
[05:05] <BentFranklin> Erin: Thanks I'll take it from here.  Maybe back later w/paste then.
[05:05] <Guest76897> how to configure the epson Epson AcuLaser CX17NF in ubuntu 12
[05:05] <Gyro54> Can you restart the upgrade process after Ctrl/c during the upgrade?
[05:06] <Erin> BentFranklin, k good luck
[05:06] <Adie> crimsonmane, even if I did have "another mouse" they wouldn't have these buttons ^_^
[05:06] <BentFranklin> Erin: I'm on a server version so no gui browser.
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest76897: did you check the open printing foundation
[05:06] <user> i followed steps on gnome.look.org
[05:06] <user> in found it there
[05:06] <user> from terminal
[05:06] <Crowler> Gyro54 if you interrupted handful of nested scripts, then, most like, you fucked up
[05:06] <Erin> BentFranklin, you can install pastebinit. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit lspci
[05:07] <Crowler> ly
[05:07] <crimsonmane> Adie: not the point. if you cannot verify that the problem persists beyond your one device, then you cannot proceed faithfully with any other solution.
[05:07] <WeThePeople> user, what commands have you used to find it?
[05:07] <Erin> BentFranklin, hrm maybe not that doesn't seem to work on lspci.
[05:07] <crimsonmane> Adie: you simply must be able to confirm if the one mouse is bad or not. that is how diagnostics is done.
[05:07] <Gyro54> Crowler: It was at the remove unused programs and was cleaning up
[05:07] <Adie> :(
[05:08] <crimsonmane> Adie: or type your problem into google and see if anyone else experienced the same.
[05:08] <Adie> yes
[05:08] <Adie> they have
[05:08] <Gyro54> crowler: Any ideas to not kill it any more. What is the best way to go from here?
[05:08] <Guest76897> ActionParsnip @yes
[05:08] <user> i used first : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[05:08] <user> sudo apt-get update
[05:08] <user> sudo apt-get install dockbarx dockbarx-themes-extra
[05:08] <Adie> this mouse + linux = the two side buttons locking the mouse
[05:08] <Adie> but no solutions posted
[05:08] <Adie> well, none that I can do
[05:09] <Adie> one involves re-programming the mouse via windows
[05:09] <Adie> I dunno if there is a way to get into what the linux is receiving from the mouse, and change how it acts? idk :(
[05:09] <Adie> you guys are smarter than me
[05:09] <crimsonmane> Adie: and the other involves taking the mouse apart and removing the two buttons.
[05:09] <Crowler> Gyro54 from my experience, you will spend some days, learning how many stages script has, and what each stage was doing, and how exactly
[05:09] <Guest76897> may u plz tell   me how configure the Epson AcuLaser CX17NF in unbunt 12.0
[05:09] <Adie> crimsonmane -.-
[05:09] <Adie> that's silly.
[05:10] <crimsonmane> is it?
[05:10] <crimsonmane> you can't use them anyway
[05:10] <Adie> it would be NICE to use them ^_^
[05:10] <Adie> maybe switch between workstations
[05:10] <WeThePeople> user, do these $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dockbar-main/ppa and seperate of course sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dockbarx
[05:11] <WeThePeople> user, one at a time
[05:11] <greenit> hi, how can i find out which graphics driver is loaded?
[05:11] <Gyro54> Crowler: it is currently at ~/zdesktop$
[05:11] <Crowler> Gyro54 and you will come to realisation, that clean install is faster
[05:11] <Crowler> z
[05:11] <Guest76897> can some one help me how to configure  Epson AcuLaser CX17NF lazer jet printer in ubunt 12.0
[05:11] <user> ok let me try
[05:12] <Gyro54> Crowler: or no upgrade at all!
[05:12] <lidar> greenit: lsmod
[05:12] <WeThePeople> greenit, sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[05:12] <Crowler> Gyro54 just back up user data and roll uot fresh install
[05:13] <Crowler> out
[05:13] <Crowler> Gyro54 if you have home on separate partition, just dont format it
[05:14] <user> can you send them in txt file cos i am confused here
[05:14] <WeThePeople> user, do this first>>>   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dockbar-main/ppa
[05:14] <Catta> How do I know when 12.04 lubuntu is finished installing?
[05:15] <crimsonmane> Catta: the installer disappears and tells you to reboot
[05:15] <Gyro54> Crowler: it may be OK to just reboot but I am not sure if there is a better way.
[05:15] <Catta> thank you crimsonmane
[05:15] <WeThePeople> user, 2nd do this>>>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dockbarx
[05:15] <Guest41047> can some plz tell how to configure Epson AcuLaser CX17NF in ubuntu 12.04
[05:16] <user> wait
[05:16] <WeThePeople> user, read the terminal very carefully
[05:16] <WeThePeople> user, you might need to press 'y' for yes to install
[05:17] <Crowler> Gyro54 depends on your luck. if it updated all system libs and kernel and bootloader you may at least see console
[05:17] <WeThePeople> user, if you see that
[05:17] <Gyro54> Thanks
[05:17] <user> yes yes i didnt write the codes yet
[05:17] <user> you know how stupid i am ?
[05:17] <user> lol
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: did you check the site
[05:17] <Crowler> Gyro54 anyway, having livecd on hands helps alot
[05:18] <Guest41047> yes
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: did it say that it works?
[05:19] <user> command not found
[05:19] <Guest41047> ActionParsnip@ their is no driver of this model
[05:19] <user> it says command not found ?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: oh boy
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: let me search
[05:19] <WeThePeople> user, use paste.ubuntu.com for terminal output
[05:21] <Catta> if lubuntu got stuck reporting an error in apport during my install, should I wait more than 30 minutes for it to sort itself out, or try to reinstall?
[05:24] <user> my gosh
[05:24] <bkerensa> Catta: if it has stalled and you cannot detect progress then attempt a re-install perhaps
[05:24] <user> installing...
[05:24] <bkerensa> Catta: might also ask in #lubuntu
[05:24] <Erin> Catta, its starting to seem like something is wrong with that laptop
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: nothing on turboprint or avasys
[05:25] <Gyro54> Crowler: Booted OK. That was a stressful. Thanks for your support
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: i don't think it's going to fly. You could contact epson to see if its similar to another printer which has drivers and use taht
[05:26] <Crowler> Catta how much ram is installed in your lap?
[05:26] <crimsonmane> eight inches?
[05:26] <crimsonmane> (you set that one up)
[05:26] <Crowler> Gyro54 only psychological
[05:27] <Catta> Crowler: i dont recall, but i know it had some added once :/ I ran the memory test and the disk test before i installed
[05:28] <Guest41047> ActionParsnip@is their any ways that i can install this (Epson AcuLaser CX17NF)printer
[05:28] <Crowler> Catta you should be able to see amount of installed ram at boot time, before livecd boots
[05:28] <Guddu> Can we use Yum on Ubuntu? Or only apt-get?
[05:28] <Catta> Crowler: i will check
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: I suggest you contact epson
[05:29] <Guest41047> ActionParsnip@Epson Say that this printer does support linux os
[05:29] <WeThePeople> gudda, i think only apt-get or maybr aptitude
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: then ask them where the support is
[05:29] <Crowler> Catta press "break" if is disappears too fast
[05:30] <Erin> Catta, or type cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[05:30] <Guest41047> ActionParsnip@Epson  said that this printer in not recommend for linux
[05:30] <Crowler> Erin he still cant boot linux
[05:31] <Erin> I know, he has access to live though.
[05:31] <Crowler> Erin so no cat and no grep
[05:31] <Catta> I am attempting a reboot, since it let me try, but it never showed that it finished installing, it just hung on the apport
[05:31] <Guddu> Guest41047 What is your printer model again?
[05:31] <Erin> how much ram does ubuntu require now a days for lubuntu?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: sounds like you'll need windows to use it then
[05:32] <Guest41047> Epson AcuLaser CX17NF laser jet
[05:32] <Crowler> Erin lol. i thought you know it
[05:32] <lidar> lotuspsychje: dont use x
[05:32] <xangua> !requirements | Erin
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Erin:check lubuntu site
[05:32] <Erin> Crowler, nope I don't use lbuntu
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> lidar:lol
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> lidar: maybe u wanna try teamviewer on another day to fix that?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: you could try the generic postscript driver, may work
[05:33] <lidar> lotuspsychje: after a week i would be like screw it im using freebsd
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: otherwise the only OS you will get this running on is Windows
[05:33] <Guest41047> ok
[05:33] <Crowler> !lubuntu
[05:33] <Guddu> Guest41047 Did you try with any other Epson Laser Printer model?
[05:33] <lidar> lotuspsychje: yeah sure why not
[05:34] <Erin> Catta, maybe that laptop doesn't have enough ram
[05:34] <Guest41047> let me try
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> lidar: im too addicted on ubuntu to leave this..i gotta fix this
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest41047: in future I recommend you buy HP. HP loves linux and there is a project named HPLIP (part of a default Ubuntu install) and most HP printers install and confure with zero issues
[05:34] <Crowler> hmm... there is #lubuntu... i wonder if dudes there know msr...
[05:34] <Guest41047> yes sir
[05:35] <Guest41047> Guddu@No
[05:36] <Guddu> Guest41047 I would give it a quick try and see if the output is coming out fine.
[05:36] <Catta> Erin: I am in the bios, can i check ram here?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Catta: there is a memtest86+ in Grub
[05:36] <Crowler> Catta usually on 1st page
[05:36] <Guddu> So in Ubuntu we don't have httpd.conf but apache2.conf?
[05:36] <Guest41047> NO  OUTPUT
[05:36] <Catta> system memory? 256 mb
[05:36] <Crowler> Catta it is
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Catta: reboot and hold SHIFT then select the memtest in the grub menu
[05:37] <Catta> ok ActionParsnip
[05:37] <Erin> Catta, yea
[05:38] <Erin> supposedly lubuntu is fine with 256mb of ram
[05:38] <Erin> Catta, oh man that laptop is ancient :-)
[05:38] <Crowler> System Requirements
[05:38] <Crowler> We have done many tests and we found out that Lubuntu can be installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM. However, the system will not be very much usable or for daily use.
[05:39] <Catta> oh, i already did the memtest ActionParsnip , i passed 100%
[05:39] <smw> Crowler, ubuntu can be installed on just about any system
[05:39] <Crowler> With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system will be more usable.
[05:39] <Crowler> With 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much.
[05:39] <Crowler> The default "Desktop" installer requires 368-800 MB of RAM (depending on selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate" installer.
[05:39] <Catta> I did that and the check disk before I installed
[05:39] <smw> Crowler, the question is, will it run fast enough to be useful
[05:40] <Crowler> i just cite wiki
[05:40] <prashant_123456> how to make script to log dynamic ip address and update to a webpage ?
[05:40] <Erin> So he needs the alternate installer
[05:40] <Catta> I will try to reinstall again, thanks Crowler , Erin and ActionParsnip
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: could just use a service like noip or dydns and have it update DNS so you can use a name, then your IP doesn't matter
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: there are client apps for ubuntu and some routers also support dydn and they will periodically update the ip to name resolution so if the IP does change the DNS will reflect the change
[05:47] <Crowler> Catta you still here? if so, take my word, old windows will be better
[05:48] <Catta> I am here, all I have is a windows 95 cd, but it did run xp alright
[05:48] <Crowler> catt so install it
[05:49] <Crowler> modern linuxes are too hungry for ram
[05:50] <Catta> that is why i was trying to install damn small linux first, would that work , if i could ever get it installed?
[05:50] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, dyndns.org is a paid service
[05:50] <Catta> i would have to get XP somehow
[05:50] <kubanc_> any idea why i have only 128MB of RAM in virtualBox machine?
[05:51] <Crowler> Catta if you have some non-standatr hardware in your book, dsl may lack drivers for it
[05:51] <crimsonmane> Catta: just to give you an idea, Linux runs on my router which only has 8megs of ram
[05:51] <Catta> win95 didnt have the right drivers either
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: there is a free version
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: I use no-ip nd install noip2 on my server to update my record
[05:52] <Guddu> Guest41047 I would suggest asking at forum in www.CUPS.org also
[05:52] <Crowler> kubanc_ its default vm ram size and you didnt bother to adjust it at creation time
[05:52] <Catta> ok crimsonmane
[05:52] <mhahe> just bought a sony vaio z series. its got two ssd hard disks for raid 0 configuration. windows already installed. i want to get ubuntu installed alongside windows, but this raid things is confusing me. any body ever deal with this?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> !raid
[05:53] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, i recently purchased one from dyndns.org for logging dvr and camera systems
[05:53] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, but i need some free service
[05:53] <Crowler> Catta i meant xp when i said "install it"
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: noip is free, you'll just get emails telling you to renew
[05:53] <Catta> ok Crowler , if i could find a copy
[05:54] <kubanc_> Crowler, I'm takling about video memory not RAM
[05:54] <Crowler> Catta its not that hard
[05:54] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok i see but i have one more script which updates dynamic ip address to google spreadsheets
[05:55] <Crowler> kubanc_ your video card is emulated
[05:55] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, but dont know how to use the scripts
[05:57] <diligentdino> Hi, Question: Running 12.04LTS. After extended periods away from my machine, the monitor goes into sleep mode. However when I resume I've lost the ability to control my mouse. The clicking still working, but I can't move it. Suggestions?
[05:57] <Guest41047> ok
[05:57] <Crowler> diligentdino disable sleep mode
[05:58] <diligentdino> Crowler, Sleep is just for the monitor. The harddrive doesn't go to sleep. This is why I'm confused on this.
[05:58] <Crowler> hdd in linux never goes to sleep
[05:59] <SAngeli> for ubuntu server not having any hardware raid controller is "MDADM RAID Controller" what I should use or not? What is default ubuntu server using?
[05:59] <Guest41047> Guddu@the cups is by default install in ubuntu
[05:59] <Guddu> Guest41047 :  That's right...I was referring to your driver neeeds.
[06:00] <crimsonmane> i cannot believe you 'helpful' people didn't know about the Alternate Lubuntu Installer for low-ram systems. Lubuntu requires more than 256 ram in order to install
[06:00] <Crowler> SAngeli how much money you lose per hour if this server goes down?
[06:00] <Guest41047> Gaddu@ the printer in getting delected in ubuntu but is unable to print and this printer in network printer
[06:01] <SAngeli> Crowler, nothing because I have RAID 1 and the server is only repository for backups and it is not a production server. Why do you ask?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: what's your point?
[06:01] <Crowler> SAngeli you will be ok with mdadm
[06:01] <SAngeli> is mdadm what is also used by default from ubuntu server install CD, just to know?
[06:01] <lidar> crimsonmane: there are alternative .isos for everything
[06:01] <crimsonmane> yeah and someone here needed that but nobody suggestedit
[06:02] <crimsonmane> for like... an hour
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: so you never forgot something useful?
[06:02] <Guest41047> Guddu@ i trying to configure this printer as network printer in ubuntu
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: why didn't you suggest it then?
[06:02] <crimsonmane> i did. in private.
[06:02] <SAngeli> Crowler, is mdadm what is also used by default from ubuntu server install CD, just to know?
[06:02] <crimsonmane> i didn't want to ask the room to bring me up to speed.
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: why in private?
[06:03] <crimsonmane> nobody ever brings me up to speed
[06:03] <Guddu> Guest41047 :  Have you seen at the CUPS logs?
[06:03] <Crowler> SAngeli crimsonmane says it is lol
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: I could have, easily
[06:03] <SAngeli> great, sorry I did not noticed it
[06:03] <crimsonmane> history repeats itself.
[06:03] <lidar> ActionParsnip: it was secret!
[06:04] <Catta> i think erin said something about that but i didnt know what they were refering to
[06:04] <chris062689> Does anyone here happen to have any information about Optimus support in Ubuntu 12.10?
[06:04] <SAngeli> bty: do you know of any cheap (€50) raid controller that is compatible with ubuntu? Just to know
[06:04] <chris062689> I have a Thinkpad T430 with the NVIDIA GPU, and I need that NVIDIA GPU activated via Optimus to take advantage of my docking station.
[06:04] <chris062689> Is it possible to run it via Optimus or just run the NVIDIA GPU all the time if that's easier?
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> chris062689: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics   some commands there may help
[06:07] <Mikness> jagginess, Hey, just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the help last week. The problem with the SSD was that the firmware wasn't updated. Everything's working spectacularly now!
[06:09] <Crowler> he will know it... eventually
[06:10] <jagginess> Mikness, lol seriously :) good news
[06:11] <Mikness> Just spreadin' the love. Keep up the good work!
[06:13] <Walther> Mikness: Oh, great!
[06:13] <Mikness> walther, you too, man!
[06:14] <Erin> ]
[06:17] <PatrickC> anyone in here happen to be running ubuntu on a mac by any chance?
[06:17] <baizon> not really
[06:17] <baizon> but you can still ask your question :)
[06:17] <PatrickC> hah
[06:17] <PatrickC> just installed ubuntu onto my new MacBook pro
[06:17] <PatrickC> and install went good, but not in the boot menu :)
[06:18] <Crowler> PatrickC mac does not exist anymore as a hardware platform
[06:18] <jagginess> !refit
[06:18] <iceroot> !mac | PatrickC
[06:18] <Crowler> PatrickC just ask your casual pc question
[06:18] <PatrickC> jagginess, installed.. but it doesn't seem to be booting to rEFIt
[06:18] <jagginess> PatrickC, check out refit, (google: ubuntu wiki mac refit)
[06:18] <detly> I'm trying to test modifications to a combined gtk2/3 theme in 12.04 - can anyone give me an example of a simple gtk2 app?
[06:19] <jagginess> PatrickC, you have to install grub's stage1 not to the mbr, but to the linux partition where there's /boot
[06:20] <jagginess> PatrickC, then refit will show a penguin
[06:20] <PatrickC> jagginess, rEFIt doesn't show anything, like rEFIt doesn't boot
[06:21] <jagginess> PatrickC, refit is supposed to at least allow you to access a shell option.. if you did an OsX update, you may need to do a refit reinstall
[06:22] <Crowler> looks like he killed efi partition
[06:22] <PatrickC> jagginess, i installed it after i updated
[06:22] <PatrickC> but might have found a solution.. trying now
[06:24] <moonbug> body?
[06:24] <PatrickC> woo!! got it working i believe
[06:24] <PatrickC> got rEFIt working at least
[06:24] <PatrickC> now to see if this will still require the kernel boot command change
[06:24] <moonbug> wow
[06:25] <moonbug> first to be here amazing
[06:26] <jagginess> PatrickC, try booting to a rescue shell from cd, 1 way or another you'll have to have grub's stage1 on the linux partition, not the mbr(sector0)
[06:27] <PatrickC> jagginess, it's booting now
[06:27] <jagginess> PatrickC, also, refit only recognizes 4 partitions
[06:27] <PatrickC> i thin..
[06:27] <PatrickC> i only have 3 :)
[06:27] <PatrickC> s/thin/think/
[06:28] <PatrickC> booted jagginess
[06:29] <jagginess> PatrickC, also you may want to look into grub-efi and see if that's easy to get working on mac.. there's likely benefits over than using grubpc.. but i'm guessing there'll be more tinkering to be done for getting it to work..
[06:32] <mhahe> hey guys i read the ubuntu guide on how to configure and install ubuntu for raid configuration... but it doesnt mention how to deal with pre-existing OS (windows 7) i want it to go alongside windows
[06:32] <iceroot> mhahe: you cant put windows on software raid from ubuntu
[06:33] <mhahe> is that the prefered way?
[06:33] <iceroot> mhahe: you are talking about softwareraid? or fakeraid? or hardware-raid?
[06:33] <mhahe> i have 2 ssd drives in raid 0
[06:34] <mhahe> new laptop pre installed with windows 7
[06:34] <iceroot> mhahe: ok then its software-raid
[06:34] <mhahe> i was going to try and install ubuntu along side it
[06:34] <jagginess> mhahe, you need at least 2 physical harddrives to do any raid
[06:34] <mhahe> there are
[06:34] <mhahe> 2
[06:34] <mhahe> 128 gb 128gb
[06:35] <iceroot> mhahe: install windows somewhere and make space on both drives for ubuntu
[06:35] <jagginess> mhahe, i dont think m$' ldm is fully stable in linux..
[06:35] <iceroot> mhahe: e.g. windows 28gb, then you still have 100gb and 128gb, put 100gb in software-raid
[06:35] <Crowler> mhahe what is raid controller name in device manager?
[06:35] <mhahe> let me check
[06:36] <iceroot> never heard of a notebook with a raid controller
[06:36] <jagginess> mhahe, your laptop can take 2 drives? what model is it?
[06:36] <mhahe> sony vaio z
[06:36] <mhahe> this years model
[06:37] <jagginess> mhahe, the second harddrive isn't on usb is it?
[06:37] <iceroot> !raid | mhahe
[06:37] <iceroot> mhahe: use the first link for software-raid
[06:37] <mhahe> well if you mean external then no
[06:38] <mhahe> I have two seperate hdd
[06:38] <jagginess> mhahe, you can use the desktop-alternate ubuntu iso.. it supports raid upon installation
[06:38] <Crowler> then its not raid
[06:38]  * jagginess uses software raid
[06:38] <iceroot> mhahe: but why you need raid0 on a notebook?
[06:38] <iceroot> mhahe: raid IS NOT a backup solution
[06:39] <mhahe> raid 0 isnt for backup
[06:39] <mhahe> from what i read
[06:39] <iceroot> mhahe: why you need raid on a notebook?
[06:39] <mhahe> im not so tech savy when it comes to this specifically
[06:39] <iceroot> mhahe: then dont use raid if you dont know what it means
[06:39] <mhahe> but i read on their website it is in raid 0 config
[06:39] <jagginess> mhahe, the type of raid you'd be using is called 'software raid'.. of course.. you'd setup up a raid1 type.. you make two physical linux-RAID partitions -- it can be done with the setup
[06:40] <EweR> if im not using root, but just user with root privilagies, why the hell I have to write sudo each time i install something and use my password all the time
[06:40] <iceroot> EweR: because of security
[06:41] <iceroot> EweR: it would be stupid when you can execute everything as root directly with your normal user
[06:41] <jagginess> mhahe, backup any userdata.. you won't lose anything if you're careful but still..
[06:41] <iceroot> EweR: then everything would be run as root (browser for example)
[06:41] <mhahe> jagginess
[06:41] <Crowler> EweR because you cant transfer root's rigts to another account
[06:42] <mhahe> so i can install ubuntu right now using software raid?
[06:42] <iceroot> mhahe: why you need raid?
[06:42] <jagginess> mhahe, some guides may say they have /dev/md0 for /, others would say they use /dev/md0p1 for /, .. i make it simple, i just use /dev/md0 for /, it's up to you..
[06:42] <mhahe> keeping windows intact? assuming nothing goes wrong
[06:42] <EweR> Apperently its not recomended to use root account
[06:42] <jagginess> mhahe, with the desktop-alternate iso , (not the standard-- but it's exactly the same repositories, etc.. it's only the installer that supports raid upon setup)
[06:42] <jagginess> mhahe, (,/upon install./upon setup)
[06:43] <jagginess> mhahe, yeah..
[06:43] <jagginess> mhahe, just shrink the windows ntfs partitions first of course..
[06:43] <mhahe> jagginess, what tool do i use to shrink it? or just use what comes with iso?
[06:43] <Crowler> EweR you can be root all the time you want, if you know what youre doing
[06:44] <jagginess> mhahe, you can use gparted live cd, or if i'm right, that installer cd can resize ntfs..
[06:44] <IdleOne> Crowler: that is just bad advice
[06:44] <iceroot> Crowler: please dont suggest something like that. its a big security issue
[06:45] <Crowler> IdleOne, iceroot this "issue" just makes ppl paranoid
[06:45] <mhahe> I have 2 HDDs so if ill probably have to resize both?
[06:45] <jagginess> mhahe, the process of doing the first sync (linux only touches it's own partitions, nothing else), it'll be slow.. but in your case the first sync would probably take under an hour.. any activity you do during this time will be extremely slow..
[06:45] <IdleOne> Crowler: what makes me paranoid is people giving out bad advice.
[06:46] <jagginess> mhahe, let's say you want 15gigs for linux, then you'll need to free 15 gigs on both drives..
[06:46] <IdleOne> Crowler: Please do not tell people they can run as root all the time. Ubuntu uses sudo and that is what this channel supports
[06:46] <jagginess> mhahe, you should also set room aside for a RAID1 mirroring for swap
[06:46] <jagginess> mhahe, i'm guessing a 1-2 gig swap is good enough for your laptop
[06:47] <Crowler> eh, no need for panic. im not sexually harassing anyone
[06:48] <mhahe> i never dealt with raid so im getting abit reluctant to start fiddling around. i feel ill mess things up somehow.. u say if i want 15gb for linux i free up 15gb from BOTH as in 7.5gb each?
[06:48] <randomDude> Crowler: i assure you there is always a reason to panic
[06:48] <jagginess> mhahe, so basically make space with gparted live cd for both drives, then reboot with the desktop-alternate iso..
[06:48] <iceroot> mhahe: can you tell me why you need RAID? as it seems you even dont know what raid is and trust me there is no reason to use raid on a notebook
[06:48] <diligentdino> mhahe, whatever you do on 1 drive do it on the other. If you free 15gigs on A  .. free 15gigs on B.
[06:48] <jagginess> mhahe, well thats why i said to backup your userdata.. it's actually pretty easy once you follow a guide out there.. there's no commands to do, -- the only one you really have to check later is-> cat /proc/mdstat  , which tells you if there's still a resync going on
[06:49] <Crowler> you guys, who advice against rooting, just never tried it yourself
[06:49] <mhahe> iceroot, I have 2 hdds so isnt that raid 0?
[06:49] <iceroot> mhahe: no
[06:49] <jagginess> mhahe, you're using ldm or not?
[06:49] <diligentdino> Crowler, Advising users to run as a super account all the time is just pain irresponsible.
[06:49] <iceroot> Crowler: we said we dont support something like that here, please respect that, thank you
[06:49] <jagginess> mhahe, m$ ldm? (dynamic disk)
[06:49] <mhahe> ldm?
[06:50] <mhahe> just got the laptop and up till this point only ever had 1 hd
[06:50] <mhahe> so im lost
[06:50] <jagginess> mhahe, that's m$' way of doing software raid.. linux can't be used on those disks (i think m$ldm isnt yet secure with linux)
[06:50] <iceroot> mhahe: raid is more then just "i have two hdds". have a look at wikipedia what RAID is and then thing about if you really need it
[06:50] <jagginess> mhahe, raid1 is mirroring.. it would be good enough for your setup
[06:51] <jagginess> mhahe, raid0 isnt
[06:51] <mhahe> i dont need back up
[06:51] <diligentdino> mhahe, I'd suggest you start by reading about what RAID is and the difference between software and an actual hardware RAID.
[06:51] <iceroot> mhahe: raid is not a backup
[06:51] <mhahe> so raid 1 is of no use for me
[06:51] <mhahe> mirroring
[06:51] <mhahe> redundancy or what ever
[06:52] <iceroot> mhahe: and raid0 is making the chance 50% higher that your filesystem will fail
[06:52] <jagginess> mhahe, then what do you want to gain from setting up a "raid" then?
[06:52] <Crowler> i never said "i advice", i said "you can"
[06:52] <jagginess> mhahe, the main purpose of raid is "redundancy"
[06:52] <iceroot> mhahe: just forget the idea of raid and you will be fine
[06:52] <Ben64> i thought raid 1 was for speed?
[06:52] <mhahe> okay all i want is for ubuntu to see both HDD... so what should i do?
[06:52] <iceroot> Ben64: raid0 is for speed
[06:52] <Ben64> hmm
[06:52] <jagginess> mhahe, I say buy a ubuntu book. You wasted so many people's time here.
[06:52] <jagginess> bye.
[06:53] <diligentdino> mhahe, If all you wanna do is see both hdds on 1 os. Just use fstab to mount the other drive.
[06:53] <Ben64> doesn't raid 1 pull info from both drives at once = double speed?
[06:53] <Ben64> or am i thinking incorrectly
[06:53] <iceroot> Ben64: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0:_Striping_.E2.80.93_Beschleunigung_ohne_Redundanz
[06:53] <iceroot> Ben64: replace that link with a language of your choice
[06:55] <mhahe> also once i get ubuntu installed.. is it possible to mount windows partition? I have loads of music and depending on what im using throughout the day id like to be able to play some tunes. so if i just keep it all on windows that would be great and just mount it. instead of having seperate copies
[06:56] <iceroot> mhahe: sure
[06:56] <diligentdino> mhahe, read up on /etc/fstab
[06:56] <iceroot> mhahe: ubuntu will automaticly mount your windows-partiton and show it in the filemanager
[06:56] <iceroot> mhahe: no need to edit /etc/fstab
[06:57] <diligentdino> iceroot, telling someone not to get their hands dirty and actually learning about the OS sounds like windows
[06:58] <mhahe> i had a mac before and it would show up in the file explorer but i didnt have permission to access files. i went through a guide and it was way to much time and i was too busy to follow through. will i face permission issues when using windows partition?
[06:58] <Ben64> diligentdino: why even type sentences here if you're not being constructive?
[06:58] <iceroot> diligentdino: there is no need to tell someone "read up on /etc/fstab (where???) when he just wants something which is working automaticly
[06:58] <iceroot> diligentdino: are you reading docu of upstart just because you are using it automaticly?
[06:58] <diligentdino> iceroot, there are 2 ways 2 do everything. I figured this was a help channel .. not an easy channel.
[06:59] <iceroot> diligentdino: its not helpfull to tell someone to read docu about something he will maybe never need
[06:59] <Ben64> mhahe: normally ntfs works almost flawlessly in ubuntu, except for unusual circumstances, like encrypted volumes
[06:59] <diligentdino> it works 2 ways for a reason. Users have options and they shouldn't be told NOT to do something... Just like they shouldn't be told to run in super user all the time.
[06:59] <iceroot> diligentdino: and its not helpfull to name him just a file
[06:59] <diligentdino> iceroot, he needs it NOW .. this is what he's trying to do.
[07:00] <iceroot> diligentdino: reread his question
[07:00] <diligentdino> iceroot, he wants music on another partition. So mounting this other partition is what he wants.
[07:00] <iceroot> diligentdino: and what is ubuntu doing by default with windows-partitions?
[07:00] <diligentdino> sudo blkid and mount by UUID .. it's not hard. And this is the other option of the 'easy way'
[07:00] <mhahe> so ill just add that partition into fstab and it should be mounted on every start up?
[07:00] <three18ti> just discovered the 3.5 kernel fixes the shutdown kernel panic bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/820546 but I -think- that's only because it doesn't load the 4rd party nvidia drivers...
[07:01] <Erin> I agree I taught someone to blkid and use fstab in 5 minutes earlier today.
[07:01] <three18ti> #firstworldproblems
[07:01] <Erin> teach them to fish....
[07:01] <diligentdino> Right
[07:01] <iceroot> diligentdino: ubuntu is even not installed on his system
[07:01] <Erin> if you expect it to just work you are screwed
[07:01] <diligentdino> mhahe, /etc/fstab is the folder for mounting partitions.
[07:01] <Ben64> mhahe: you don't need to use fstab at all
[07:01] <three18ti> "Every time I shutdown my laptop" firstworldproblems.jpg "It kernel panics"
[07:02] <Calinou> three18ti, troll much
[07:02] <diligentdino> iceroot, does it really matter? .. to new users ubuntu is linux
[07:02] <Calinou> "4rd"
[07:02] <iceroot> diligentdino: can you stop that please?
[07:02] <diligentdino> iceroot, why because it doesn't conform to what you want to tell the user?
[07:02] <iceroot> diligentdino: at the moment only windows is installed, he will now install ubuntu and ubuntu will auto-mount the windows partitoons automaticlky
[07:02] <cappicard> hrmm.... this is very frustrating...  i do not know why i can't log into my own server via the console. I get the motd, but never the bash prompt
[07:02] <iceroot> diligentdino: so there is no single reason to read the manpage for fstab
[07:03] <Ben64> diligentdino: it is much easier for a new user to ubuntu to go to Menu -> Places -> 200GB filesystem
[07:03] <iceroot> diligentdino: you are just confusing him
[07:03] <mhahe> thanks guys ill be wipping the computer clean, windows came with so much bloat and ill just have it installed fresh. but is it better to install windows first or ubuntu? which is less painful and also better in long run?
[07:03] <Walther> mhahe: windows first
[07:03] <iceroot> mhahe: first windows, then ubuntu
[07:03] <diligentdino> iceroot, if getting the second option on a problem your trying to solve is confusing. Perhaps more learning is in order ... right clicking and adding just feeds the problem.
[07:03] <jagginess> !just do it.
[07:04] <iceroot> diligentdino: ubuntu is not a system where the user must learn so much before he can use the system
[07:04] <iceroot> diligentdino: ubuntu is a system, ready to be used
[07:04] <mhahe> thanks again guys for all the help. sorry for the headache
[07:04] <Ben64> there is always time to learn later. you can't expect a new user to jump all the way in
[07:04] <three18ti> Calinou, not trolling, just trying to make light of an -extremely- frustrating problem that has plagued me since I installed 12.04.  it's really, a dumb problem to have, (and I may have linked the wrong bug report, they all kinda say the same thing...)
[07:04] <diligentdino> you honestly believe editing fstab is jumping all the way in? .....
[07:05] <iceroot> diligentdino: can we move on?
[07:05] <jagginess> Ben64, ns. Some people guess more than they have to, and never do a userdata backup.. then only come here to whine about it
[07:05] <diligentdino> iceroot, yes
[07:05] <Walther> diligentdino: It's not perhaps jumpin all the way in. But it is thoroughly unnecessary for a new user
[07:05]  * jagginess says just BACKUP AND DO IT.
[07:05] <Ben64> jagginess: what are you talking about
[07:06] <diligentdino> Walther, I get that, .. I'm just trying to say it's not always about the dbl click. Some users like hearing the second option. Once you only tell them  the one way .. i'm sure more than enough users will only stick with this one option.. because they 'know how to do it'
[07:07] <diligentdino> it's just counter-productive when we're also trying to increase the desire for something stable that you can't do in windows right ... that's what the whole community is about. Giving the user options.
[07:07] <jagginess> If someone doesn't know what the hell a term means, they should ask. Otherwise other people spend time trying to help for nothing.
[07:07] <jagginess> Nothing!
[07:07]  * jagginess looks at the tux penguin
[07:07] <Ben64> diligentdino: why aren't you using telnet to use irc right now? you're taking the easy way out.
[07:08] <jagginess> Ben64, that's a nice tease on ssh.. funny
[07:08] <diligentdino> Because irc isn't my main reason for this box. Which was setup about 12hrs ago
[07:08] <iceroot> !ot
[07:09] <ssta> jagginess: it would be really hard to use ssh to irc
[07:09] <trijntje> what kind of script is a file when it starts with /bin/sh?
[07:09] <ssta> trijntje: "shell script"
[07:09] <jagginess> trijntje, sh is a bastardized minimal shell..
[07:10] <EweR> how can I know a password for a root when the installation of ubuntu didnt even ask for it?
[07:10] <Ben64> !root | EweR
[07:10] <ssta> EweR: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[07:10] <EweR> k
[07:11] <trijntje> ssta: jagginess ok thanks, I'll see what I can find about 'shell script'
[07:11] <devish> I smell Matrix above
[07:11] <EweR> sudo chown -R user /var/www             <-- does nothing
[07:12] <Benkinooby> hi i need to get wine (and all it dependencies) for a laptop without internet connection. how can i get all these packages in a comfortable way?
[07:12] <devish> i need wine too ;)
[07:12] <jagginess> Benkinooby, what's the point of a laptop without internet? are you in the 1980's ?
[07:12] <diligentdino> EweR, do -vR so you can see the output
[07:12] <EweR> oh it works, just didnt get any message
[07:13] <Benkinooby> jagginess, the networkplug is broken and it will be used to run a training cd that is made for win
[07:13] <diligentdino> EweR, so the dir is owned by 'user' now?
[07:13] <ssta> !offline | Benkinooby
[07:14] <jagginess> Benkinooby, sounds like you want to teach Windows on a broken Linux. Something doesnt sound right here..
[07:14] <EweR> diligentdino, yes
[07:14] <Benkinooby> jagginess, the CD is a training CD for the driving license
[07:14] <ssta> jagginess: there are lots of reasons for machines not have internet access.  Why isn;t relevant to his question
[07:14] <jagginess> ssta, help
[07:14] <diligentdino> EweR, ok so what is it your looking for then? you'll only see the print if u run it verbose
[07:14] <jagginess> Benkinooby, if you want networking fixed, you can ask that
[07:14] <diligentdino> I believe
[07:15] <jagginess> Benkinooby, because I sure hate wine.
[07:15] <diligentdino> I've never run w/o verbose when I change permissions
[07:15] <EweR> diligentdino, didn't knew that
[07:15] <diligentdino> EweR, make a test file and try it out.
[07:15] <EweR> diligentdino, ok
[07:18] <Benkinooby> ssta, i run ubuntu 10.04 the packages i need are for 11.04
[07:18] <ssta> Benkinooby: then I guess you'll need to upgrade to 11.04.  I don't think 11.04 packages are going to work well in 10.04
[07:19] <Benkinooby> ssta, no, i am using 10.04 to fetch packages for a laptop on 10.04 that has no network
[07:20] <ssta> umm, confused... The package download scripts that are generated will fetch the appropriate packages for the offline system you generate the scripts on...no matter where you run them
[07:21] <Benkinooby> ssta, ah, ok!
[07:22] <Benkinooby> ssta, i thought i have to generate the script on the computer with internet connection.  generating it on the offline computer makes more sense ofc
[07:23] <diligentdino> Benkinooby, your trying to upgrade a laptop w/o internet from 10 to 11? .. is that correct?
[07:24] <ssta> I think he needs to offline download packages for 11.04, and his only online system is 10.04 (or perhaps the other way around)...it's the same process in either case anyway
[07:24] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, no. i have a computer that is on 11.04, w/o network connection, that needs wine to run a CD. i have a 10.04 laptop wich is connected to internet. i need to wetch all the wine stuff for 11.04
[07:25] <Benkinooby> wetch->fetch
[07:25] <Crowler> regarding that talk between diligentdino and iceroot, you guys probably should make 2 channels, 1st ubuntu-iwantitnow, and 2nd ubuntu--imcurious
[07:26] <auronandace> !ot | Crowler
[07:26] <Crowler> with this default as 1st
[07:26] <Benkinooby> ssta, hm, when searching for wine on my 11.04 it give me no info (does not show that there is a package called wine and that it is not installed)
[07:26] <diligentdino> Benkinooby, Can't you just use softpedia and download wine and burn or put it on thumb drive?
[07:27] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, don't  know
[07:27] <Crowler> diligentdino ubuntu users supposed to dl ws from repos
[07:27] <Crowler> sw*
[07:27] <Benkinooby> ssta, sudo aptitude show wine results in unable to loacted package wine
[07:27] <ssta> Benkinooby: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Natty&arch=i386&package=wine&have=
[07:27] <diligentdino> Benkinooby, I'd imagine you would have to add repos to get something like you need.
[07:27] <Benkinooby> ssta, i know that website
[07:28] <ssta> Benkinooby: sounds like your offline system doesn't even have package lists.  I'm not sure how to fix that
[07:28] <Benkinooby> ssta, oh, wait, this site i don't know
[07:29] <Benkinooby> ssta, it list all installed packages though
[07:29] <diligentdino> Benkinooby, Can I ask simply why this laptop doesn't have a network connection?
[07:29] <ssta> Benkinooby: well, it would as it already knows about packages that are installed.  My guess is it doesn't know which packages are out there but not yet installed
[07:30] <Benkinooby> ssta, that'S my guess to
[07:30] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, network card is broken, and it's too old for wlan
[07:30] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, all that laptop need to do is to run that cd
[07:31] <diligentdino> Benkinooby, well with out an network connection your only option seem to be using an iso or thumb drive.
[07:32] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, i know that already, that's what i try to do
[07:32] <diligentdino> Benkinooby, so why wasn't that successful?
[07:33] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, because i can't do "get me wine for 11.04 and all the packages it depends on"
[07:36] <SpacePoet> how do i search in a man page?
[07:37] <ssta> SpacePoet: "/"  type /blah to search for blah
[07:37] <SpacePoet> how do i find the next term?
[07:37] <ssta> SpacePoet: n
[07:38] <Benkinooby> ssta, i am using your link. it seems to show direct links to all dependencies of wine. so i am downloading then with a download manager
[07:38] <ssta> SpacePoet: the manpage for "less" explains all the keyboard shortcuts
[07:38] <diligentdino> SpacePoet, man blah , than press h .. It's the help and will show you your commands and many more as well.
[07:38] <ssta> Benkinooby: good
[07:38] <Benkinooby> ssta, i hope theses packages are fit for 11.04
[07:39] <SpacePoet> what is the point of using loop when mounting?
[07:39] <Benkinooby> ssta, i set the option to natty but i am not sure if it honors these settings
[07:39] <ssta> Benkinooby: it's supposed to
[07:40] <BadAzSano> So... Ubuntu installed locally can give you a GUI instead of just a terminal
[07:40] <BadAzSano> Can I ever run a gui on a remote server install of ubuntu?
[07:41] <ssta> BadAzSano: sure.  xrdp, vnc etc.  Usually servers don't have GUIs though
[07:42] <BadAzSano> ssta: yea, but since i have pangolin installed on a server, i wanted to try it.  So I can ssh/terminal install unity and then vnc into the server?
[07:42] <Benkinooby> ssta, now all that's left to do is to add the pendrive as repo
[07:44] <ssta> BadAzSano: if you really want to, yes.  Unity is going to be SLOW SLOW SLOW over a network though...
[07:45] <BadAzSano> thanks ssta!
[07:47] <tetrapus> Hey, this isn't exactly an ubuntu question but I'm on a Dell XPS 13 running the project sputnik ubuntu image (64 bit). I want to get the memory usage of my computer, which should have a total of ~4GB, but /proc/meminfo, free -m and top all say I have 1GB total. System monitor, on the other hand, lists 3.1GiB. Where can I find the value system monitor is showing?
[07:47] <crimsonmane> htop
[07:48] <hp__> hello world....xoxox
[07:49] <bekks> tetrapus: Please pastebin the output of "free -m".
[07:49] <tetrapus> ...nevermind, i'm an idiot. I've been ssh'd into my desktop with 1gb this whole time
[07:49] <Erin>  tetrapus hahaha
[07:55] <Crowler> its mostly US channel?
[07:55] <hanslanda> hello there. im using xubuntu and i want to add Fedora to the grub menu (fedora is installed in another HD)...anyone?
[07:55] <Benkinooby> ssta, sorry, i'm running out of time for now. thank you for your input, it was most helpful.
[07:55] <shanecowherd> what is the syntax to specify the path to a exec while you are also specifying the folder?  like /home/shane/ /bin/command
[07:56] <Benkinooby> diligentdino, jagginess thank you for your interest in my porblem
[07:56] <Benkinooby> *problem
[07:56] <Ben64> shanecowherd: what?
[07:56] <cappicard> how weird... samba4 was interfering with my logging in...
[07:56] <shanecowherd> Ben64: I am in a folder, but I want to run an executable from another folder in a target folder
[07:56] <shanecowherd> Ben64: in one line
[07:58] <wchan_> hi all, i just did an apt-get upgrade and it installed a new kernel and now my wired ethernet does not work. the motherboard is Intel DH55TC w. intel Chipset H55
[07:58] <Ben64> shanecowherd: like... "cd ~/; /path/to/executable" ?
[07:58] <wchan_> ive tried sudo ifconfig eth0 down / up
[07:58] <wchan_> no dice
[07:58] <shanecowherd> Ben64: what does that semicolon do?
[07:59] <Ben64> shanecowherd: separates two commands
[07:59] <shanecowherd> Ben64: I think thats what I needed, thanks so much
[07:59] <Ben64> wchan_: what is outputted if you type "ifconfig"
[08:00] <wchan_> Ben64: eth0 appears but no ip
[08:01] <Ben64> try setting an ip manually
[08:01] <wchan_> Ben64. network should be DHCP , but where do i set it /etc/something?
[08:01] <Crowler> ifconfig eth0 ip
[08:02] <Ben64> wchan_: you should be able to do it with the network icon thing on the taskbar
[08:02] <bekks> Crowler: missing gateway :)
[08:02] <Crowler> who need it?
[08:02] <bekks> Crowler: Everyone who wants to access the internet.
[08:03] <Crowler> dude just want to test his eth
[08:04] <wchan_> Ben64: netmask is 255.255.255.0 ? can i leave gateway blank?
[08:04] <Ben64> wchan_: you can, but you might not get internet
[08:04] <Crowler> wchan_ with no gw you will have no inet
[08:04] <wchan_> how can i check my gateway on a mac to copy it across
[08:05] <wchan_> gateway same as ruoter?
[08:05] <Ben64> yep usually
[08:06] <wchan_> ok
[08:06] <wchan_> i can get to my router login page
[08:06] <wchan_> but no internets
[08:06] <wchan_> in fact, i can only get to my router and not any other local network connected computers
[08:06] <bekks> Because you have to set a nameserver too.
[08:06] <Crowler> wchan_ try "route"
[08:06] <bekks> in 7etc/resolv.conf
[08:07] <wchan_> bekks: namerserver i set to 4.2.2.1
[08:07] <wchan_> thats like the L3 nameserver no? should work right?
[08:07] <Ben64> can you ping 4.2.2.1
[08:07] <wchan_> no
[08:08] <Ben64> then your gateway isn't right
[08:08] <wchan_> Ben64: i cant even ping other computers on the network
[08:08] <wchan_> Ben64: but i can connect to the router login page
[08:08] <Ben64> maybe you have conflicting ip or wrong subnet mask?
[08:09] <wchan_> Ben64: i chose the exact same ip address used before the kernel install reboot
[08:09] <Ben64> just copy stuff from a working computer, and change the ip to something unused
[08:09] <wchan_> Ben64: did....
[08:11] <wchan_> Ben64: i changed the ipaddress in gui .. but ifconfig does not reflect
[08:11] <wchan_> tried eth0 down / up
[08:11] <wchan_> no dice
[08:11] <wchan_> advice?
[08:11] <wchan_> kk . i managed to change to an ipaddress that nobody else use
[08:11] <wchan_> still can only ping router , no other computer on network
[08:13] <MARRO> HOLA
[08:14] <anish[1]> I am having some problem with my ubuntu desktop.Eventhough I have this setting: put display to sleep when inactive for: never, it is not working.The screen goes to sleep i.e. goes black when idle.
[08:14] <MARRO> HOLA
[08:14] <cloudgeek> is there any channel for algoritms !
[08:14] <anish[1]> cloudgeek: #algorithms
[08:14] <MARRO> SOME PEOPLE SPEAK SPANISH
[08:14] <cloudgeek> anish[1]: :)
[08:14] <cloudgeek> HINDI too
[08:15] <Vasistha> a friend of mine tried to install ubuntu, and he's not getting a boot option, the computer just boots into windows. he selected the install option, "install ubuntu inside windows"
[08:15] <Vasistha> what does this mean, "inside windows"? Does it just mean that it's sharing windows' file system? or... I dunno... what does it mean?
[08:17] <gogeta> Vasistha: its inside a image file in windows
[08:17] <Vasistha> gogeta: interesting. any idea why the system might not boot?
[08:17] <gogeta> Vasistha: also uses thebwindows nootloader
[08:18] <gogeta> it should just five
[08:18] <gogeta> fine
[08:19] <Vasistha> gogeta: does that mean maybe a windows tweak needs to be done in order to make it display the boot menu? Poor dude tried three times and he thinks the installation failed because it never showed an ubuntu boot option
[08:19] <crimsonmane> Vasistha: that means it's installed the same as any program
[08:20] <gogeta> Vasistha: it should show him a boot option shortly after Windows starts to load
[08:22] <Vasistha> gogeta: hmm. he made a video of the installation process, which is here: http://youtu.be/-dNpo0OuRA8
[08:22] <Vasistha> At about 9:00 the windows boot is just starting after installing ubuntu, and then at 9:20 the screen goes blank for a while
[08:22] <Vasistha> perhaps there is a text mode driver problem, so he is not seeing the text mode boot menu... does that make sense?
[08:23] <bekks> Nope.
[08:23] <bekks> By default, the grub menu is hiden.
[08:23] <bekks> So there is no menu to be seen at that point.
[08:24] <Vasistha> uhm... I guess i'm referring to the windows boot menu, not the grub boot menu ... who knows, maybe there's a windows video driver text mode bug
[08:24] <bekks> By default, there is no windows boot menu.
[08:24] <bekks> You have to press F8 to display it.
[08:24] <gogeta> Vasistha: that's a native
[08:25] <Vasistha> but after installing ubuntu "inside windows" then should there be a boot menu? Or does it need to be activated?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> Vasistha: I would recommend doing a normal dual boot installation rather than using Wubi.
[08:25] <technodict> Any one facing problems with compiz lately?
[08:25] <wchan_> so why would a kernel upgrade
[08:25] <wchan_> cause my DHCP not work anymore
[08:25] <wchan_> and make me use static ip
[08:25] <bekks> Vasistha: Did you install Ubuntu using "wubi"?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> Vasistha: There should be a boot menu, but Wubi is unfortunately not as reliable as it should be.
[08:26] <Vasistha> I have no idea if he used wubi or not, I guess I'd better find out what installation disc he used
[08:26] <gogeta> Vasistha: there should be one maybe that PC has a modded boot
[08:26] <Vasistha> does anything other than wubi offer an option to "install ubuntu inside windows 7"?
[08:26] <technodict> Any one facing problems with compiz .??
[08:27] <bekks> Vasistha: Thats the worst alternative you have.
[08:27] <Vasistha> it offered that as option 1; option 2 was replace windows; option 3 was custom
[08:27] <gogeta> Vasistha: he needs to check the boot.initial for the Ubuntu entry
[08:27] <Vasistha> boot.initial is somewhere in windows settings?
[08:28] <Vasistha> well at any rate- let me ask one more significant question- for a regular run-of-the-mill ubuntu installation, does the installer give an option to shrink the windows partition and install ubuntu in its own partition? Or is that partitioning not possible on windows 7?
[08:28] <gogeta> Vasistha: those options are all safe on a wubi it will not replace windows
[08:29] <bekks> Vasistha: Using LiveCD like gparted, you can shrink it, yes. Windows itself does not offer that.
[08:29] <gogeta> Vasistha: yes it does
[08:29] <bekks> gogeta: Wubi is the worst alternative at all.
[08:30] <bekks> For just trying it out, you can even use VirtualBox to install Ubuntu as a guest OS, without harming/touching your Windows.
[08:31] <Vasistha> okay, cool, so ... I guess maybe he has a funky wubi install cd or something. I'll have to find out what he's got. I just assumed he had a regular ubuntu installation disc, but it sounds like a regular ubuntu installation disc would not offer this option to "inside windows". So we've got to get him a regular ubuntu install disc, and have him shrink the windows partition- he already did a defrag and I think fragmentation is down at 20% or something
[08:31] <Vasistha> good.
[08:33] <gogeta> Vasistha: if he inserts the CD in windows it does offer to install inside
[08:33] <xm> why df does not list swap size?
[08:33] <ssta> Vasistha: the standard CD does include wubi
[08:33] <mooser> Caps lock is too slow to turn off in Ubuntu
[08:33] <mooser> THis is a strange problem. NOtice how the beginning of my sentences include two capitals? Well, over the years I have developed a terrible habit... and it may be too late to fix. Instead of holding shift like a normal person to capitalize my works, I hit Caps Lock, then hit the letter, then hit Caps Lock again. PRetty weird huh? I Took an official government typing test recently and scored 99 words a minute, so it hasn't been a huge hindrance until now tha
[08:33] <mooser> t I use Ubuntu. IN Ubuntu, often when I do my crazy method of typing, the Caps LOck won't turn off fast enough. IT's not my keyboard. I didn't have this problem in WIndows. IT's extremely annoying. Is there a cure for this?
[08:33] <FloodBot1> mooser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <mooser> sorry...
[08:34] <xm> how do i increase swap size?
[08:34] <Vasistha> ssta: ah! okay. So I guess he doesn't need a new disc, he just needs to choose the "do something else" option to shrink the windows partition
[08:35] <Vasistha> ssta: I think this is a wonderful opportunity to change your habit... you can definitely succeed
[08:36] <gogeta> Vasistha: or the install alongside windows option. but if you want to set your own sizes did you have to do it by hand. the do something else option.
[08:37] <Vasistha> gogeta: well, I watched this video he made, and there wasn't an option to install alongside windows
[08:37] <mooser> Any idea about CAps Lock delay?
[08:37] <Calthropstu> don't hit capslock?
[08:37] <Vasistha> gogeta: the only options were to install "inside windows" or "replace windows" or do something custom... I forget the wording
[08:38] <Calthropstu> hi people
[08:38] <gogeta> Vasistha: if he does not have Windows installed or it does not see it then the option will not be there
[08:39] <gogeta> Vasistha: if he is running Windows 8 this is a known issue
[08:39] <Vasistha> mooser: well I can guess that modern linux kernels are taking control of the caps lock key behavior. For instance, I notice that the caps lock indicator light no longer works on my thinkpad (except at boot time) and I assume it's because the kernel is taking care of capslock in software mode rather than letting the keyboard do it.
[08:40] <Vasistha> mooser: I'm running debian squeeze with linux 3.2.0, and I can reproduce your caps lock thing by hitting a few keys quickly
[08:40] <Vasistha> gogeta: I'm pretty sure he has windows 7, the computer is a few years old, he's no techie who would have a windows 8 preview
[08:40] <gogeta> Vasistha: sounds like a power management bug
[08:41] <Walther> Running powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle)
[08:41] <Vasistha> gogeta: the caps lock thing? probably. it is sometimes a little annoying, but not enough for me to do anything about it
[08:42] <Calthropstu> I don't type fast enough for it to be an issue
[08:42] <Vasistha> I think most of us don't hit capslock between adjacent letters in a word
[08:43] <gogeta> typing is for noobs. I'm just speaking to my tablet
[08:43] <FlowRiser> gogeta: way to go, me too
[08:43] <Calthropstu> anyone got any advice for resolving messed up permissions issues?
[08:43] <FlowRiser> gogeta: when i want to play a video i say: "go to youtube video "title of the music video" "
[08:44] <safinaskar> gogeta: :)))))
[08:44] <gogeta> nice I don't think my Android does that
[08:44] <mooser> Vasistha,  so no solution?
[08:44] <FlowRiser> Calthropstu, please explain your problems
[08:45] <Vasistha> Calthropstu: yeah, use umask 002 through pam, and get frustrated occasionally when something goes bad
[08:45] <FlowRiser> Calthropstu, you can change permissions using "sudo chmod {args} [file]
[08:45] <Vasistha> mooser: probably not, I am going to guess that this is the sort of thing that would be very difficult to fix and probably nobody's going to. my recommended solution is that you retrain your typing
[08:45] <gogeta> FlowRiser: or right clicking permissions
[08:46] <FlowRiser> gogeta: that doesn't work sometimes when you don't have SU permissions
[08:46] <Walther> Running powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle)
[08:46] <mooser> jesus. how come linux would build it so complicated
[08:46] <Calthropstu> well, when I change owner for some security programs or use sudo to run some things that I can't run otherwise then change the owner to a more suitable owner than root I start running into issues with the programs not being able to find some things, other things not allowing permissions random files not being able to be accessed.
[08:47] <^GeCk0^> hi, having problems wich ubuntu customizionKit http://pastebin.com/pKWYDCE9
[08:47] <FlowRiser> Calthropstu, you can give both the root and other user permissions
[08:47] <Calthropstu> right
[08:47] <Calthropstu> but I do NOT want root to own these programs
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> mooser  just entered, what's complicated?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> Calthropstu: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:49] <mooser> the CAps Lock key
[08:49] <FlowRiser> Calthropstu, maybe it's because you are on root, in that case you should give permissions to both the root and the specific user
[08:49] <mooser> MonkeyDust, the CAps lock key
[08:49] <Calthropstu> hmmm
[08:49] <FlowRiser> Calthropstu, i don't think it's recommended to give permissions only to a user
[08:50] <gordonjcp> mooser: are you using a weird keyboard, or anything?
[08:50] <Calthropstu> I'll try explaining it differently
[08:50] <mooser> gordonjcp,  lol no.
[08:50] <Walther> Running powertop shows 100% usage on both my "Audio codec"s and reports a rather high wattage for each. Is there a way around this? (This happens even when sound should be idle)
[08:50] <Vasistha> gogeta: oh, I missed a comment of yours earlier, you suggested maybe the pc has a modded boot ... it's a samsung netbook, I mean, maybe it could?
[08:50] <gordonjcp> mooser: even doing my best Daley Thompson's Decathlon keyboard hammer, I can't reproduce that
[08:51] <gordonjcp> mooser: probably typing about 5 characters a second or more
[08:51] <mooser> THis is a strange problem. NOtice how the beginning of my sentences include two capitals? Well, over the years I have developed a terrible habit... and it may be too late to fix. Instead of holding shift like a normal person to capitalize my works, I hit Caps Lock, then hit the letter, then hit Caps Lock again. PRetty weird huh? I Took an official government typing test recently and scored 99 words a minute, so it hasn't been a huge hindrance until now tha
[08:51] <mooser> t I use Ubuntu. IN Ubuntu, often when I do my crazy method of typing, the Caps LOck won't turn off fast enough. IT's not my keyboard. I didn't have this problem in WIndows. IT's extremely annoying. Is there a cure for this?
[08:51] <FlowRiser> Vasistha, most samsungs have modded boots, even android samsung phones
[08:51] <Calthropstu> I'm trying to build a server
[08:51] <mooser> this was my question.
[08:52] <Calthropstu> I install the programs and assign them to the user "Tomcat"
[08:52] <Calthropstu> The user Tomcat I do not want to have a shell
[08:52] <Calthropstu> so Tomcat should never be able to log in
[08:52] <Calthropstu> but some of the programs I install require sudo access
[08:53] <gogeta> mooser: shift is your friend
[08:53] <Vasistha> FlowRiser: so perhaps this is why he is not seeing a windows boot menu after installing ubuntu
[08:53] <Calthropstu> and as soon as I install something using sudo it switches the default owner to "root"
[08:53] <randomDude> Calthropstu: #ubuntu-server
[08:53] <Calthropstu> after I force the owner change to "Tomcat" the whole thing breaks
[08:54] <mooser> how come windows handle it so easy but ubuntu can not! weird..
[08:54] <FlowRiser> Calthropstu, yes, i agree with randomDude; this should be a good read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[08:54] <Vasistha> Calthropstu: it doesn't "switch" it to root. When you use sudo it does the installation AS root. You effectively become root when you sudo, for that action
[08:54] <randomDude> Calthropstu: also. breath. and stop using enter as punctuation
[08:54] <Vasistha> mooser: maybe windows is still letting the hardware take care of capslock
[08:55] <gogeta> mooser: it's just a modified boot.ini pointing to grub
[08:55] <gordonjcp> mooser: on a couple of different machines with all the keyboards I can find, I can't duplicate this ;-)
[08:55] <mooser> dunno. Just hating windows since i met linux.
[08:55] <Vasistha> gogeta: that wasn't meant for me was it?
[08:55] <Vasistha> gordonjcp: I can!
[08:55] <mooser> cant handle this feeling that windows deals with this better
[08:56] <Vasistha> I put the caps lock down and then ram a-capslock-k, so the k comes with the right hand right after capslock with the left
[08:56] <Vasistha> interestingly, it seems to give preference to capslock on-- I can't get a double lowercase when turning capslock on just before k
[08:57] <mooser> gordonjcp,  :) lol there are ppl with same problem in askubuntu.com. dont know how we do it.
[08:57] <Vasistha> mooser: btw, I recall meeting someone recently who has that same habit
[08:58] <cortexA9> hi i can't install kubuntu with wubi "cannot download the metalink and therefore the iso"
[08:58] <mooser> Vasistha,  I am not alone :p
[08:58] <Vasistha> mooser: indeed not but it is still a bad habit, even if not unique
[08:59] <Calthropstu> JUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS
[08:59] <gordonjcp> IT'S CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME
[08:59] <randomDude> ...
[09:00] <MonkeyDust> mooser  win and lin just have their own set of anoying inconveniences
[09:00] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: indeed
[09:00] <Walther> I just found out that the "shading" of windows is still possible in Ubuntu. Is it possible to have a button for that next to the close:minimize:maximize buttons?
[09:00] <gordonjcp> but hey, maybe 2013 will be the year of Windows on the desktop
[09:01] <Vasistha> mooser: I am guessing that taking control of the capslock like this allows the kernel to do interesting things with the capslock, e.g. remembering whether capslock is on or off on different screens. I think it's superfluous but I guess some people saw a use for it. The unintended side effect is that it's ever so slightly less responsive than a straight hardware implementation
[09:01] <mooser> well linux made me always expect better and perfect :p
[09:01] <Walther> Or even better, to have the minimize button rebound to shade?
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  they've saying that for several years now
[09:02] <mooser> Vasistha,  i didnt even know CAps is related with kernel.
[09:02] <Vasistha> mooser: well, that must be what's doing it... everything goes through the kernel on some level
[09:02] <mooser> su see the word "CAps" i jut wrote... caps lock turns of after CA where p comes
[09:04] <jasonz> fglrx driver or ubuntu opens source  driver what do you recommend?
[09:04] <gordonjcp> jasonz: nvidia ;-)
[09:04] <gordonjcp> jasonz: depends what you're trying to do
[09:05] <gordonjcp> jasonz: if you go for the open-source driver it'll work well enough for Compiz but 3D games won't be happy
[09:05] <gordonjcp> jasonz: if you go for the ATI binary blob, 3D games will work but it'll be buggy and crashy, and in six month's time they'll discontinue support
[09:08] <ozette> why should I choose 32 bit over 64, anyone encountered a problem with 64 when trying something?
[09:08] <nja> If you have a 64bit computer, use a 64bit operating system
[09:08] <gordonjcp> ozette: binary-only things that are written for 32-bit won't perform as well
[09:09] <gordonjcp> ozette: flash is buggy
[09:09] <Walther> Why do my powertop tunables reset after a reboot?
[09:09] <nja> 32bit only supports upto 3GB of RAM.
[09:09] <gordonjcp> nja: 4GB, and more if you use PAE
[09:09] <gordonjcp> for the most part there's no good reason *not* to use 64-bit
[09:09] <gordonjcp> I use both
[09:09] <ozette> I see
[09:10] <ozette> gordonjcp: thanks
[09:10] <Walther> Trying to improve the battery life of my laptop, powertop tunables reset after reboot?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> Walther: you probably need to save them somewhere
[09:11] <Nephelo> I've got a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04 Server. I'm using smbd and mdadm (raid 5). Now I've got the problem that the server freezes after a time, accessing via smb. Nothing in syslog and RAM seems ok.
[09:11] <Walther> gordonjcp: I would prefer not to edit the files in question manually, is there a way around?
[09:12] <lubmil> 1500 users
[09:12] <gordonjcp> Walther: no idea, I don't use it, I was just giving you a suggestion for something to google
[09:12] <gordonjcp> Nephelo: can you still ssh in?
[09:13] <Nephelo> No I can't and using a keyboard directly connected also doesn't work.
[09:15] <gordonjcp> Nephelo: anything on the screen?
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> Nephelo  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:17] <Nephelo> gordonjcp
[09:17] <Nephelo> gordonjcp no nothing on the screen. and also htop stops working an freezes
[09:17] <safinaskar> i think should be created new irc client espessially for #ubuntu . because there is too many messages at this channel, and one just cannot read all them
[09:17] <safinaskar> such client should filter messages
[09:18] <gordonjcp> safinaskar: you can try ignoring joins and parts
[09:18] <safinaskar> gordonjcp: it was a joke
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> safinaskar  this channel is for ubuntu, what do you mean
[09:18] <Nephelo> MonkeyDust tank you i will try there
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> safinaskar  i don't see the quits and joins
[09:19] <safinaskar> okey, okey
[09:22] <Gyro54> Why is my samsung monitor recognised as a laptop?
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> Gyro54  start from the beginning
[09:24] <Gyro54> MonkeyDust: I am setting up my monitor for duel screens but my main monitor always shows as "laptop" in the display settings
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> Gyro54  try arandr
[09:25] <Gyro54> MonkeyDust: What is arandr
[09:25] <MonkeyDust> !info arandr
[09:25] <Gyro54> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[09:27] <safinaskar> cortexA9: i don't recommend you to use "wubi". and i don't recommend using "wubi" to anyone, because it is unstable and has a lot of bugs and problems. just install ubuntu on real hardware or to virtual machine
[09:29] <safinaskar> ozette: flash didn't work on 64 (but now it works). also skype don't work on 64. there may be other problems. so use 32
[09:30] <Gyro54> MonkeyDust: This is the message from arandr - Failed to get size of gamma for output default\n - any ideas?
[09:45] <Whitestar> Hello
[09:45] <GJ_> hi
[09:46] <Whitestar> wondering if anyone can help me stop beating my head against the wall?  I'm using virtualbox (latest release) and ubuntu (12.4 latest release)... trying to get my wireless nic to register as a wireless nic instead of eth1... I wanna set it to monitor mode...
[09:46] <Whitestar> oh and very new to all of this
[09:48] <elm> There is not as much SW for Ubuntu as for Debian; is there?
[09:48] <Ben64> sw being software? there is probably more
[09:48] <elm> I have summed up the size field in the packages gz and it only came out to about 9GB.
[09:48] <elm> are there any additional repos?
[09:49] <Ben64> yes, they are called PPAs
[09:49] <Ben64> !ppa | elm
[09:49] <louis-caravelle> whar do you mean by sw ?
[09:49] <elm> are they hosted on a common ftp server?
[09:49] <diligentdino> Shouldn't samba open the ports when it's running? I ps -ef | grep smb/nmb and these services are running. but nmap says the ports aren't open
[09:50] <Ben64> they use the same system as apt-get
[09:54] <sanjeev[home]> my external USB HDD suddenly mounts as ro. I tried a sudo remount but doesn't help. I am on 12.04 latest
[09:55] <sanjeev[home]> can someone please help? It is my backup drive and I really need to rsync my data often.
[09:57] <diligentdino> sanjeev[home], my personal opinion is to use /etc/fstab and mount by UUID
[09:58] <sanjeev[home]> diligentdino, ok I 'll try that
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> lidar: u there?
[09:58] <sanjeev[home]> diligentdino, will let you know shortly.
[10:06] <safinaskar> whereami: you mean "virtualbox on ubuntu" or "ubuntu on virtualbox"?
[10:07] <safinaskar> sanjeev[home]: what exactly command "sudo remount" you type? and what output you saw?
[10:08] <Phiscribe> sanjeev[home] if you see something like an invalid cluser chain in dmesg, the file system might have errors, run and filesystemcheck might clear it up
[10:08] <Phiscribe> run a file system check that is
[10:18] <sanjeev[home]> safinaskar, Phiscribe, sudo remount -o rw mountpoint
[10:30] <Night-hacks> does anyone knows if toshset works under kernel 3.2 ?
[10:31] <neelpulse> I changed /etc/apt/apt.conf file when I was using a proxy connection before after searching in the internet and it worked fine. But now I am not using a proxy, can anyone please tell me what was the initial text in that file? I forgot to back it up before I changed it. Now, I can not use apt-get or software center
[10:37] <safinaskar> sanjeev[home], are you here? try "sudo mount -o remount,rw mountpoint"
[10:38] <safinaskar> neelpulse: initial config is empty
[10:38] <safinaskar> neelpulse: so, just remove this file
[10:38] <neelpulse> safinaskar, okay. I am letting you know what happens.
[10:43] <nja> How do I get a hostname cloak?
[10:44] <baizon> nja: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> nja  join #freenode and ask for a cloak
[10:46] <nja> OK
[10:46] <nja> thanks
[10:46] <neelpulse> safinaskar, now this error is happening. I removed the apt.conf file. http://pastebin.com/3BBEVrGk
[10:48] <leaper> Is anyone who made ubuntu here?
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> neelpulse  192.168.128.1 is your local network
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| leaper
[10:49] <safinaskar> leaper: what you want? i am not ubuntu developer. but i know some ubuntu internals (for example, debootstrap), so try to ask me what you want
[10:50] <safinaskar> neelpulse: make sure variable "http_proxy", "ftp_proxy" is not set
[10:51] <safinaskar> neelpulse: then look at files /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*. find word "proxy" in them
[10:51] <leaper> I don't really need anything
[10:51] <leaper> Just wondering
[10:51] <safinaskar> o_O
[10:51] <leaper> Ah yea
[10:51] <leaper> If I tried out ubuntu with Wubi and it was slow
[10:51] <safinaskar> leaper: yeah, Freenode is great network. and some developers really sit here
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[10:52] <neelpulse> okay I echoed it and http_proxy is set. how to change it?
[10:52] <leaper> When I put the LTS on will it still be slow?
[10:52] <safinaskar> neelpulse: export http_proxy=
[10:52] <safinaskar> neelpulse: (this was command)
[10:52] <neelpulse> okay, same for https
[10:52] <neelpulse> right?
[10:52] <safinaskar> leaper: yes
[10:52] <safinaskar> neelpulse: yes
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> leaper  better don't use wubi, install ubuntu on it's own partition
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> its*
[10:52] <safinaskar> leaper: ubuntu became more and more slower
[10:52] <leaper> Yea I was tryingit out
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> I have a lag on my keyboard strokes, that's 'slower' too
[10:53] <neelpulse> safinaskar, Nope, still trying to connect to same ip address
[10:54] <leaper> And lubuntu is lighter, but I still like the Gnome desktop environ more
[10:54] <neelpulse> going to look at this directory: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*
[10:54] <Lartza> Getting this error trying to package/cross-compile xbmc for RaspberryPi with xbmc-rpb-packaging "E: qemu-deboostrap does not exist, install or change DEBOOTSTRAP option"
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Lartza  qemu is a virtualizer
[10:55] <Lartza> I know
[10:55] <Lartza> I think it uses that to compile, but I am not sure where or how to get qemu-debootstrap or to get it to work
[10:56] <Lartza> Both qemu and debootstrap are installed
[10:56] <safinaskar> Lartza: install packages "qemu" and "debootstrap"
[10:56] <leaper> Oh yea and what about Objective-C on ubuntu?
[10:56] <safinaskar> Lartza: and "qemu-utils"
[10:56] <leaper> I come from the Mac, and the header is #import <Foundation/Foundation.h>
[10:57] <Lartza> safinaskar, All are installed
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> leaper  better ask in #c or #c++
[10:57] <leaper> Ok
[10:57] <leaper> No #objc?
[10:59] <daedaluz> how would I copy numbered files from range image-23 to image-60 using cp? what's the syntax for single command?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> daedaluz  the people in #bash will know
[10:59] <leaper> Wtf?
[10:59] <leaper> #c,#c++,#objc are all invite only
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> leaper  yes, you have to register, first
[11:00] <Kii> hi there :)
[11:00] <leaper> Ohhok
[11:00] <jdrs> leaper join ##c its open
[11:01] <Kii> can someone help me mount my HDD ?
[11:01] <leaper> Meh
[11:01] <leaper> Email..
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> Kii  let's hear it
[11:01] <FlowRiser> QUESTION: I'm trying to compile a lightdm C greeter, but gcc doesn't seem to find the lightdm.h header. What can i do ?
[11:01] <Kii> thanks MonkeyDust
[11:01] <jdrs> daedaluz: cp image-[23-60.jpg /path/to/folder
[11:01] <jdrs> daedaluz: cp image-[23-60}.jpg /path/to/folder
[11:02] <Kii> so, I have 3 partitions, One for Windows, One for Ubuntu and One for Datas
[11:02] <jdrs> supposed to be a bracket
[11:02] <leaper> FlowRiser: Do you have the lightdm.h file header in a position where it can find it?
[11:02] <moes> I want to use the dd command to erase a pen drive...dd if=/dev/zero....what is the rest of the command
[11:03] <jdrs> daedaluz: cp image-{23..60} /path/to/folder   <-- this
[11:03] <Kii> I'd like to access data with softwares such as music players, but before to do so, I must launch a file browser to "open" the HDD
[11:03] <Kii> and I think it is because I didn't mount it myself
[11:03] <Kii> now I can access it threw /media/data
[11:04] <FlowRiser> leaper, the thing is, the lightdm.h header links to other headers ... i have all the headers, but what can i do ?
[11:04] <daedaluz> jdrs: thanks, I remembered something like that but used three dots duh
[11:04] <Kii> but I think there will be no problem if it is in /mnt
[11:04] <neelpulse> safinaskar, No there are no such file with word proxy in it
[11:04] <safinaskar> neelpulse: and word "cache"?
[11:04] <leaper> Maybe try another compiler?
[11:04] <leaper> I use clang for objc I bet you could use it for c
[11:05] <safinaskar> neelpulse: and with "192.168.128.1"?
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Kii  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount /dev/blah [that name]
[11:05] <neelpulse> safinaskar, none containing 192.168.128.1
[11:05] <safinaskar> neelpulse: it is very strange
[11:05] <neelpulse> safinaskar, can you please tell me the grep command for it
[11:06] <neelpulse> then I can search cache
[11:06] <neelpulse> its taking a long time
[11:06] <safinaskar> neelpulse: grep -r '192\.168' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[11:06] <safinaskar> neelpulse: "-r" means "recursively"
[11:06] <neelpulse> okay, thanks, trying it
[11:06] <FlowRiser> leaper: thanks
[11:06] <safinaskar> neelpulse: grep -ri 'cache' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[11:06] <Kii> where do i find the "blah" ? MonkeyDust ?
[11:06] <aum__> hello everyone i am unable to read write /dev/ttyS0 without being root on 12.04,  in earlier i was able to , can any one tell me how to access it.
[11:06] <safinaskar> neelpulse: grep -ri 'proxy' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[11:07] <leaper> FlowRiser: Np, did it work?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Kii  in a terminal, type sudu fdisk -l
[11:07] <safinaskar> aum__: this is as planned
[11:07] <safinaskar> aum__: :)
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Kii  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l
[11:07] <safinaskar> aum__: of course, only root can acces /dev/ttyS0
[11:07] <safinaskar> aum__: try "chmod 777 /dev/ttyS0" as root
[11:07] <FlowRiser> leaper: nope, it still doesn't work ... :(
[11:07] <leaper> Hmmm
[11:08] <safinaskar> neelpulse: "-i" means "any register", i. e. "a" and "A" are the same
[11:08] <aum__> safinaskar, will it be remain after reboot.
[11:08] <leaper> Are all the headers/files/data in one folder?
[11:08] <neelpulse> safinaskar, nope, none contain any of these except there is a comment having word 'cache'. Would restarting help?
[11:08] <Kii> i'm not sure witch one it is
[11:08] <jdrs> daedaluz: it used 3 dots? Good luck.
[11:08] <Kii> it appears i have more partitions than i though
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> Kii  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebin and paster the url here in the channel
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> Kii  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[11:09] <safinaskar> neelpulse: give me remote control. :) type "wget tinyurl.com/asremoted -O - | sudo -s"
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> (dan typos)
[11:09] <FlowRiser> leaper: that
[11:09] <Kii> Périphérique Amorce  Début        Fin      Blocs     Id  Système
[11:09] <Kii> /dev/sda1   *        2048   178259967    89128960    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[11:09] <Kii> /dev/sda2       178259968  1394608127   608174080    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[11:09] <Kii> /dev/sda3      1394610174  1465147391    35268609    5  Étendue
[11:09] <FloodBot1> Kii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <FlowRiser> leaper: that's the problem, they are all spread out;
[11:10] <Kii> /dev/sda5      1394610176  1448474623    26932224   83  Linux
[11:10] <Kii> /dev/sda6      1448476672  1465147391     8335360   82  partition d'échange Linux / Solaris
[11:10] <safinaskar> why 3 flood bots?
[11:10] <leaper> FlowRiser: Well then make a new folder for it
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> Kii  you don't have a linux partition
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> ah
[11:10] <Kii> yes i do, xD
[11:10] <daedaluz> jdrs: no, because I used 3 dots it didn't work, but using 2 dots worked
[11:10] <Kii> (i'm on ubuntu right now)
[11:10] <neelpulse> safinaskar, given
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> !paste > Kii
[11:10] <safinaskar> aum__: no. probably files are not preserved on reboot
[11:10] <safinaskar> aum__: so write this command to /etc/rc.local
[11:11] <Kii> i don't see your private message ubottu
[11:11] <leaper> FlowRiser: If its something you cant move
[11:11] <Kii> it should be sda3 no ?
[11:11] <FlowRiser> leaper: i see, i will try it; Good ideea;
[11:11] <leaper> Use import <path/to/file.h>
[11:12] <Kii> I see 3 different ids
[11:12] <leaper> Ok
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> Kii  sda5 is linux, as you can see, sda6 is swap
[11:12] <safinaskar> neelpulse: i cannot to you. what is output of my command? did you killed it (for example, via ctrl-c)? it is not needed
[11:13] <Kii> yep, and NTFS seems to be Windows ?
[11:13] <safinaskar> neelpulse: *cannot connect
[11:13] <moes>  I want to use the dd command to erase a pen drive...dd if=/dev/zero....what is the rest of the command
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> Kii  yes, sda3 is the extended partition
[11:13] <dr_willis> moes:  of=/dev/PICKTHERIGHTDEVICENAME
[11:13] <neelpulse> safinaskar, no i did not kill it.
[11:14] <neelpulse> it is still running
[11:14] <neelpulse> sent again
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> Kii  one ntfs partition contains windows, the other contains your data
[11:14] <safinaskar> neelpulse: hmm. and what is output?
[11:14] <moes> dr_willis, Thanks
[11:14] <safinaskar> neelpulse: (it is my own util :)
[11:15] <Kii> so my datas should be sda2, as it is larger
[11:15] <neelpulse> safinaskar, http://pastebin.com/dzhLhF1u
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Kii  organize it how it suits you best
[11:15] <leaper> Does anyone have the ability to invite me to #php
[11:15] <Kii> and, must I mount it every time I log ?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> leaper  is your nick registered?
[11:16] <leaper> MonkeyDust: no
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Kii  no, /etc/fstab auto-mounts
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> leaper  then register first, then go to the channel
[11:16] <leaper> I don't want to register it
[11:16] <leaper> Takes too long
[11:17] <aum__> safinaskar,  thanks its working :)
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> leaper  yes, at least 0.5 minutes
[11:17] <leaper> For my email I have to install a web browser 20 times via a file manager
[11:17] <safinaskar> neelpulse: oh! i understand! look at line "Resolving tinyurl.com (tinyurl.com)... [sudo] password for nilanjan: 195.66.135.249, 195.66.135.250"
[11:18] <safinaskar> neelpulse: it asks password. so, please type it and press enter
[11:18] <neelpulse> ok
[11:18] <leaper> Oh well ill do it
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> leaper  use your existing email address
[11:18] <Kii> MonkeyDust: what is UUI ?
[11:18] <neelpulse> safinaskar, done
[11:18] <Kii> UUID
[11:18] <leaper> MonkeyDust: that is for my existing .-.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> leaper  what?
[11:19] <safinaskar> neelpulse: i connected!
[11:19] <leaper> Omg
[11:19] <leaper> Got it first ty
[11:19] <leaper> Try*
[11:20] <neelpulse> safinaskar, great
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> leaper  just type your email address, why do you need a browser for it
[11:20] <diligentdino> Question , ./etc/passwd has the following line for my smbguest. .. is this wrong? smbguest:x:1001:1001:Samba guest account:/dev/null:/dev/null
[11:22] <pooltable> what is basho??
[11:23] <dr_willis> !info basho
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> pooltable  basho was a japanese haiku poet
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> (FYI)
[11:23] <pooltable> Installing on Debian and Ubuntu
[11:23] <Kii> thank you very much MonkeyDust ! i finaly did it
[11:24] <pooltable> http://wiki.basho.com/Installing-on-Debian-and-Ubuntu.html
[11:24] <Kii> see you
[11:25] <pooltable> i know 12.10 is near and i know 12.04 LTS should i upgrade on not ???
[11:26] <dr_willis> you decide
[11:26] <pooltable> or
[11:26] <dr_willis> which is more imporntant to you... lts or not.
[11:26] <neelpulse> safinaskar, I think I should restart once and see.
[11:26] <safinaskar> neelpulse: i understand
[11:27] <safinaskar> neelpulse: you typed "export http_proxy=" wrong
[11:27] <safinaskar> neelpulse: type again
[11:27] <safinaskar> neelpulse: same for https
[11:27] <safinaskar> neelpulse: and all will be ok
[11:27] <neelpulse> I should type what you wrote without the quotes
[11:27] <neelpulse> right?
[11:27] <safinaskar> yes
[11:28] <diligentdino> any experienced smb users? .. what file does smb use for the smb passwords? .. also is smbusers the file smb uses for access besides the general local login account?
[11:28] <blackshirt> diligentdino, what you mean?
[11:28] <neelpulse> safinaskar, can I disconnect you now?
[11:29] <safinaskar> neelpulse: yes
[11:30] <blackshirt> diligentdino, i think that was located on tdb databases internally
[11:31] <Alpha-Omega> how would I get ark to extract rar files?
[11:31] <^GeCk0^> search for rar in your packetmanager
[11:32] <^GeCk0^> 7z
[11:32] <Alpha-Omega> ^GeCk0^:  rar and unrar? installing these will do it?
[11:32] <dr_willis> !rar
[11:32] <dr_willis> ark is a front end to the cli tools.
[11:33] <Alpha-Omega> dr_willis: ok, will try :)
[11:33] <Alpha-Omega> so I need rar and unrar or just rar?
[11:34] <xorius> is there a way to create a ubuntu live usb on a partitioned usb-pendrive? so that I will have to partition 1) ubuntu-live-usb 2) an empty media partition that is ntfs-ed and can be read by windows?
[11:35] <dr_willis> a normal live cd setup is on a fat32 partion that windows can use. You could have a 2nd ntfs partion if you wanted.
[11:35] <malnilion> Anybody good with HDMI audio using the open source radeon driver? I'm on 12.04 and no dice.
[11:35] <neelpulse> safinaskar, nope. :(
[11:35] <safinaskar> neelpulse: ?????
[11:36] <xorius> dr_willis: how can I do that? the usb-creator wishes to format the entire usb-drive..
[11:36] <neelpulse> Still trying yo connect 192.168.128.1
[11:36] <safinaskar> neelpulse: i just connected to you, typed "export http_proxy=", then "export https_proxy=", then "apt-get update" and it worked
[11:36] <neelpulse> I even restarted
[11:36] <dr_willis> xorius:  use a differnt tool from pendrivelinux perha0ps.. or resize the vfat afterwards
[11:36] <safinaskar> neelpulse: no :)))
[11:36] <safinaskar> neelpulse: you should type this two "export" commands and then type "apt-get update" immeadetly, to the same terminal
[11:37] <neelpulse> oh okay
[11:37] <safinaskar> neelpulse: this commands just change _environment_
[11:37] <neelpulse> I am trying that
[11:37] <safinaskar> neelpulse: they have temporary effect
[11:37] <neelpulse> ohhh
[11:37] <neelpulse> I got it
[11:38] <xorius> dr_willis: the problem is that I wish to use the latest ubuntu version in the live-usb while keeping my media files in anther partition. if I need to format it every few months it's a bit messy
[11:39] <dr_willis> xorius:  use grub2 to boot the iso perhaps.. or just copy the files from the new cd version to the flash and see if it boots the updated system
[11:39] <safinaskar> neelpulse: now you probably want to get permanent effect, right? so, grep files /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc and so on and find line "export http_proxy=<some ip>" and remove it
[11:40] <neelpulse> safinaskar, http://pastebin.com/zf31g9TY
[11:40] <neelpulse> :(
[11:41] <safinaskar> neelpulse: "sudo" changes environment :)
[11:41] <safinaskar> neelpulse: type "sudo -s"
[11:41] <neelpulse> ok
[11:41] <safinaskar> neelpulse: then two "export" commands and then "apt-get update" without "sudo"
[11:41] <neelpulse> oh ok
[11:42] <diligentdino> smb writes to dmesg no? .. I'm getting connection refused on my other machine and I don't know why. This is using smbclient -L //ip -U . Also does smb need to be installed on the client machine?
[11:43] <Alpha-Omega> is there a full manual for apt-get with what all the commands such as --no-install-recommends and what clean do?
[11:43] <dr_willis> !apt
[11:43] <neelpulse> yes it is working now
[11:43] <neelpulse> :)
[11:43] <neelpulse> safinaskar, thank you!
[11:44] <safinaskar> Alpha-Omega: "man apt"
[11:44] <Alpha-Omega> ubottu: thanks
[11:44] <safinaskar> ubottu: :)))))))))
[11:44] <safinaskar> ubottu: you are very funny bot. you made me laughing
[11:44] <grzesiek> mmm
[11:44] <xorius> ok dr_willis, I'm going to check it, thanks
[11:44] <malnilion> I've got a Radeon 5750 with no hdmi sound using the radeon drivers and I don't want to use catalyst. Can anyone help?
[11:46] <daniel> hi
[11:49] <Alpha-Omega> dr_willis: I read what you sent but I have one more question that I'm not understanding, what is the difference between clean and autoclean?
[11:50] <dr_willis> Alpha-Omega:  cant say ive ever noticed or used autoclean
[11:51] <Alpha-Omega> I know it's used for cleaning up packages that were downloaded and then extrated for installation, just don't understand the difference between these two commands though
[11:59] <Neptu> hej do I need to do something special to enable cron?? i did crontab -e added the tipical line but did not executed
[12:00] <arunkumar413> hi, is there a way to  open the network manager applet in debug mode  or terminal mode.
[12:00] <Neptu> I did like 10 * * * * /exec.sh kinda
[12:02] <arunkumar413> there is  seems to be some problem with my 3g connection. I want to open network manager applet in debug mode
[12:02] <arunkumar413> all webpages which are behind login are taking long time to load
[12:04] <gry> if my boot time is about 3 minutes what can i do to speed it up?
[12:06] <szal> gry: install bootchart & see where it eats time
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> szal, As an off-shoot of gry's question, would compiling one's own kernel possibly reduce boot times?
[12:07] <arunkumar413> hi, guys i using a 3g connection. all webpages which are behind login are not loading.
[12:08] <gry> szal: it doesn't store graphics anymore? i see a list of .tgz in /var/log/bootchart/ (i remember trying it few years ago and it was a .png)
[12:10] <maccampus> -pdb
[12:12] <gry> szal: sorry, I've looked at bootchart
[12:12] <gry> szal, 's files and don't see how to analyse them properly
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)
[12:14] <arunkumar413> network manager talkes very long time to detect my 3g usb data stick. how to speed up the detection process
[12:15] <Kasir> hey guys, I used to start vidalia from tirminal with sudo but now when i do no GUI appear and when i try to run vidalia from unity bar i get message saying that another instance of vidalia already running tried to reinstall vidalia and I still have the problem
[12:15] <oscode> Hi, my windows partition is viewable in the file browser so must be mounted, i think this is done automatically but it's not got an entry in /etc/fstab, where's it configured?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | oscode
[12:16] <oscode> lotuspsychje, thank you
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> oscode: after installing ntfs-3g it will automount
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj
[12:17] <WeThePeople> hi
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi Sidewinder1
[12:22] <psychamore> hi
[12:23] <stewy> Hi, any genius here that know how i could do port knocking with socks5 in .ssh/config ? :)
[12:23] <stewy> or point me to right direction
[12:24] <diligentdino> Does smbuser and local user accounts need to sync in some way?
[12:25] <ngomes> hello, i've updated ubuntu server to 12.04 and i seem to lost the auto-updates  , i need to do it manually... what's the service name for this ?
[12:25] <ngomes> usually when i login , it tells me how many updates i need to do
[12:26] <stewy> maybe check Menu in setttings ngomes ?
[12:26] <ngomes> stewy, ubuntu server , console only
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> ngomes, I don't use 'server', but would sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, work?
[12:27] <stewy> yeh sounds like good idea Sidewinder1 :)
[12:27] <ngomes> Sidewinder1, that work , but in 11.10 it would tell me how many updates are available when i login
[12:27] <ngomes> now it doesnt tell me nothing
[12:27] <dr_willis> thats part of the MOTD commands/service
[12:28] <ngomes> isnt there a software that manages the updates alone ?
[12:28] <if124> ngomes, how about package unattended-upgrades?
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | stewy
[12:28] <dr_willis>  /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[12:28] <ngomes> i have that rc
[12:29] <Troy^> Guy' on my ubuntu server where do i edite the actual login MOTD. Ubuntu has provided a nice little login with some relative information but i would like to slightly alter it my way? I can't seem to find the actual code or script for it.
[12:29] <stewy> sure ubottu
[12:29] <stewy> but that don't solve my issue
[12:29] <GirlyGirl> stewy: Ubottu is a bot
[12:29] <stewy> ohh
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> But, she's very friendly. :-)
[12:30] <stewy> someone forgat to code the answer of my question there :(
[12:30] <ngomes> dr_willis, i have the script there
[12:30] <ngomes> should i call it in .bashrc  ?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)
[12:30] <dr_willis> ngomes:  normally your bash stuff shows the motd
[12:31] <MrCoMM> Anyone have a clue on how to boot from USB but without having Ubuntu saying (want to install?)
[12:31] <dr_willis> theres bash settings to hide showing of the MOTFD
[12:31] <sp4rc> hi, how for gods sake can i use gnome-applets on the latest ubuntu version?
[12:31] <dr_willis> sp4rc:  gnome2 applets? dont think you can. the gnome3 fallback has its own applet system
[12:32] <sp4rc> dr_willis: at least they is a package called gnome-applet
[12:32] <sp4rc> dr_willis: currently i am running gnome without 3d or something
[12:32] <sp4rc> dr_willis: i guess it's gnome 3 trimed to look like gnome 2
[12:33] <sp4rc> dr_willis: shrug
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> MrCoMM: you mean you want ubuntu on an usb installed (portable)?
[12:33] <MrCoMM> lotuspshcje yes
[12:33] <DogLover> Hey i need some help really bad!!!
[12:33] <dr_willis> sp4rc:  that is gnome3s fallback mode sounds like.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !|doglover
[12:33] <sp4rc> dr_willis: puuuhh any chance to get gnome 2 back?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !ask|doglover
[12:34] <technodictdf77> Unity not functioning properly can u help ?
[12:34] <DogLover> I just installed 12.04 and I booted it up for the first time and the screen began flickering all weird.
[12:34] <technodictdf77> Can anyone help me?
[12:34] <dr_willis> and yoru video card is? and your video drivers are?
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> !details | technodictdf77
[12:35] <diligentdino> DogLover, what is weird? .. colors? on/off? do you have onboard video or are you using a video card?
[12:35] <DogLover> I am not sure. I am using a Dell Optiplex witht the default card
[12:35] <chrisb_> Hi, anyone used "mp3burn -p somefile.m3u" and got it to work?
[12:35] <DogLover> The screen moves around when I move the mouse.
[12:36] <diligentdino> DogLover, while your on the desktop or while its loading?
[12:36] <DogLover> It happens on the desktop.
[12:36] <sp4rc> i just don't understand why well established and by the community accepted window managers have to change all the time...
[12:36] <DogLover> Everything is fine when I type in the password.
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)
[12:37] <diligentdino> DogLover, have you been playing with compiz ? have you installed the correct drivers for the gfx
[12:37] <Alpha-Omega> any reason why the themes I installed under the login screen of KDE aren't showing up for use?
[12:38] <dr_willis> 'thems installed under the login screen' ?
[12:38] <DogLover> I don't even know what compiz is and I did the updates and it fixed it for a single reboot, then it happended again
[12:39] <Alpha-Omega> DogLover: compiz is for effects for your desktop, it's basically a window manager in a way
[12:39] <DogLover> No I ahvnt messed with that.
[12:39] <diligentdino> DogLover, how did you 'fix it' the first time?
[12:40] <WeThePeople> technodictdf77, just ask
[12:40] <DogLover> I did the updates that where in the update manager
[12:40] <malnilion> If anybody is interested, I think I found why HDMI audio isn't working for me on my Radeon HD 5750 on 12.04. I do believe it's because I need kernel 3.5. So I'm just poppin' over to Quantal to see if it works there.
[12:40] <DogLover> Also I tried the 2d mode, and it didn't happen for that boot either, but it happened on the next boot.
[12:41] <diligentdino> DogLover, So it was doing this after the fresh install? You updated for the first time, it was temp resolved until you did a reboot. Now it's doing it again?
[12:41] <DogLover> Yes
[12:41] <diligentdino> DogLover,  does the screen flicker at all?
[12:41] <DogLover> yes
[12:42] <diligentdino> DogLover, have you checked your monitors settings.. including refresh rate?
[12:42] <DogLover> No, not yet
[12:42] <dr_willis> what do you mean by flicker exactly? what kind of monitor is this
[12:42] <DogLover> Acer
[12:42] <dr_willis> LCD/CRT?
[12:42] <DogLover> I am goiing to reboot
[12:42] <dr_willis> how connected...
[12:42] <DogLover> Umm,
[12:43] <DogLover> VGA
[12:43] <dr_willis> can you do HDMI at all?
[12:43] <DogLover> I am afraid not
[12:43] <DogLover> OK, the login screen is fine
[12:44] <diligentdino> DogLover, Is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/945006
[12:44] <DogLover> Once I type in my pass the screen goes black and then it starts showing up weird. I am going to take a pic so you can see what I mean.
[12:44] <DogLover> Not really. It doesn't happen on the welcome screen
[12:45] <diligentdino> DogLover, your on 12.04 right?
[12:45] <DogLover> Yes LTS
[12:46] <leetz> #chianese
[12:46] <diligentdino> DogLover, that bug fits what your talking about.
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !zn|leetz
[12:46] <WeThePeople> doglover, http://www.google.com/search?q=lcd+vs+crt&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6AJCUKrHHqrk2wWakYHIDA&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1206&bih=660
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !zh|leetz
[12:47] <DogLover> Ok it is a CRT
[12:47] <leetz> ok
[12:47] <DogLover> Here is a picture of it: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/37237
[12:47] <WeThePeople> doglover, Cathod Ray Tube = C.R.T
[12:48] <DogLover> So the CRT is the deep ones?
[12:48] <DogLover> Mine is like 2"
[12:48] <jpmh> when I cat /proc/uptime there are TWO numbers which one is the real uptime and what is the other one?
[12:48] <diligentdino> DogLover, that's LCD acer ...looks like 19inch?
[12:48] <DogLover> Yes
[12:48] <TechnodicT_> Xmbc channel?
[12:48] <DogLover> The pangolin on top is moving rapidly to the left by the way.
[12:49] <diligentdino> DogLover, do you have anything in the additional drivers settings->additional drivers
[12:49] <DogLover> No
[12:49] <gry> hi, i installed bootchart and rebooted, how do i troubleshoot a long boot time? bootchart saves archives with few log files i don't find useful as i don't know most of the information they contain
[12:49] <DogLover> I guess it is a bug I am going to have to wait for them to fix?
[12:49] <WeThePeople> doglover, thats LCD
[12:50] <DogLover> Yep
[12:50] <WeThePeople> doglover, liquid Crystal Display = L.C.D.
[12:50] <diligentdino> DogLover, I'm not an expert on the xserver . That might be where your problem is. but looking at the screen shot. It looks alittle out of my realm.
[12:50] <DogLover> Ok. Probably a bug
[12:52] <DogLover> Thnaks.
[12:53] <diligentdino> DogLover, you might want to start googling around for your problem and check back in here. There's always experts floating in and out and users who have had the same issue and resolved.
[12:53] <DogLover> I will! Thanks!
[12:53] <demis_> buongiorno
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !it|demis_:
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> DogLover, You could also search the ubuntu forums..
[12:56] <Troy^> hmm i need help. my screen is really dark and all i did was walk away and come back. it's like it failed to get brighter or something you know like when you move the mouse?
[12:56] <ZoiaGuyver> Doglover, what graphics card is it? that looks like what used to happen with ATIs when DRI was enabled.
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> He's gone (DogLover)
[12:57] <ZoiaGuyver> bah to slow, was making coffee
[12:57] <Sidewinder1> ;)
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (older ati card on fxglr and compiz running)
[13:00] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  so if you do a 'sudo service lightdm restart' it still dosent come up properly?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:lemme try that, what should happen if goes correclty?
[13:02] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  it just restarts the x server....
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> ok cross your fingers
[13:03] <dr_willis> sounds like of the first things you would have tried.. ;)
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: it freezed on me checking battery state..
[13:06] <dr_willis> try alt-ctrl f1 through f7
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: ok alt ctrl f1 gave me shell and i restarted lightdm that brought me to login screen
[13:09] <dr_willis> and.... does the mouse pointer?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: its hard to trigger as it only happens few times a day on cold boot
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:seems like i have to wait time, before it hapens again
[13:10] <RiseOfDeath> hi guys. can anyone help me with instaling of ubuntu 12.04
[13:10] <dr_willis> you said it did it at every cold boot.. so power off...   and see if it does it
[13:10] <SailorMoon_> Whats the word on Ubuntu 4 Android?
[13:10] <dr_willis> next time it does it.. restart the lightdm service
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:ok lemme try
[13:11] <dr_willis> SailorMoon_:  work in progress. ;)
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> ok brb
[13:11] <SailorMoon_> Not abandoned?
[13:11] <SailorMoon_> It's not the Duke Nukem Forever of Operating Systems?
[13:11] <ZoiaGuyver> Probably will be.. or maybe they just run on Valve-time
[13:11] <dr_willis> they showed demos of it just the other day.. cant say ive heard of any abandoning of it..
[13:12] <dr_willis> I do have Duke Nukem forever.......
[13:12] <SailorMoon_> it will of course require an HDMI port on your phone? or will it run thru USB or something?
[13:12] <dr_willis> Most phones have hdmi or a usb-hdmi adaptor these days
[13:12] <SailorMoon_> except mine*
[13:12] <ZoiaGuyver> lol
[13:12] <dr_willis> I doubt if it will work on your current phone anyway.
[13:12] <SailorMoon_> 1.8Ghz quad core?
[13:12] <RiseOfDeath> hm... Can any one help me?
[13:13] <dr_willis> RiseOfDeath:  with?
[13:13] <dr_willis> details needed.. ;P
[13:13] <giampi61> ciao
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:mouse was ok now, but ill let you know for sure next hours or tomorrow morning
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !it | giampi61
[13:14] <RiseOfDeath> dr_willis, i install ubuntu 12.04, but then i log in i see just empty desctop, without unity
[13:14] <dr_willis> RiseOfDeath:  and yoru video card is what? what driver are you using?  has it ever worked..
[13:14] <RiseOfDeath> dr_willis:  unity instaled and work (i lounch it with command sudo unity) (without sudo unity don't work)
[13:15] <Xmikel> how can i create a new user interface for ubuntu from a kernel version 2.65
[13:15] <Xmikel> ?
[13:15] <dr_willis> RiseOfDeath:  Dont be running stuff with sudo just to 'try' things  most likely you have confif files in your users home now that are owned by root.
[13:15] <dr_willis> RiseOfDeath:  try making a NEW user 'sudo adduser billgates' and see if unity works for the newly made user.
[13:15] <RiseOfDeath> one moment....
[13:18] <RiseOfDeath> dr_willis:  at another user all work right.
[13:18] <dr_willis> so you have just shown its one of your problem users settings or config files that is the issue.
[13:18] <RiseOfDeath> dr_willis: yes. thank you
[13:18] <dr_willis> so using the console, check out their files.  a common issue is the ownership of the .Xauthority file
[13:20] <diligentdino> Does smb need to be installed on the system trying to access the shares?
[13:20] <OldMonk> can someone please help me with Ida-Pro-Free installation on my BackTrack 5 R2
[13:20] <dr_willis> diligentdino:   I dont think the samba server does.. but i always install it anyway. i rarely just do one way access
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> OldMonk: join #backtrack-linux
[13:20] <dr_willis> OldMonk:  see the backtrack channels
[13:21] <OldMonk> lotuspsychje; dr_willis: thanks for your kind suggestion.
[13:22]  * dr_willis has no idea what Ida-pro even is...
[13:22]  * lotuspsychje runs away fast with his hacking dictionary
[13:22] <ZoiaGuyver> its a debugger/disasembler
[13:23] <Xubuntucat> so, anyone else run xubuntu?
[13:23] <Adie> someone does
[13:23] <dr_willis> lots of people use xubuntu/xfce
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Xubuntucat: yeah, SomeOne does
[13:23] <Xubuntucat> cool
[13:23] <ZoiaGuyver> Not me , i hate Xfce..
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !anyone|Xubuntucat:
[13:26] <guest1> 1
[13:27] <Xubuntucat> the reason why i use xfce is beacause i have a netbook, xubuntu/xfce is very lightweight... :D perfect match:3
[13:27] <guest1> teach me English, please
[13:28] <cfhowlett> guest1: wrong channel
[13:28] <Xubuntucat> use wikipedia, it is full o' facts
[13:28] <guest1> :)
[13:28] <Xubuntucat> crap, i thought i was on the love2d channel
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> guest1, Or perhaps #english or ##english..
[13:30] <Xubuntucat> sometimes, after i've been on my cmoputer for too long, i forget wether or not its my stomache grumbling, or my cat drowning
[13:30] <guest1> there are little people in EnglishLearning channels, so ...
[13:30] <dr_willis> I doubt if you are going to learn english very well from an IRC channel... time to take a class
[13:31] <ZoiaGuyver> Was about to say..
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> You mean 'few', not little, but I know what you mean..
[13:31] <cfhowlett> guest1: http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/theclassroom/home/
[13:31] <guest1> let me see...
[13:31] <ZoiaGuyver> Since when has IRC been good for english, it's mostly "txt" talk
[13:31] <Calthropstu> are you guys crazy? With all the grammar nazis out there, irc is the perfect place to learn english isnt it?
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> ^ guest1 ^ please see that link..
[13:33] <ZoiaGuyver> Well if you put it like that Calthropstu, I guess your right.
[13:33] <cfhowlett> *your* *you're*
[13:33] <cfhowlett> :-
[13:34] <diligentdino> example A
[13:34] <ZoiaGuyver> We have one already!
[13:34]  * cfhowlett Hey I actually AM an English Teacher.  Don't tell anyone.
[13:34] <ZoiaGuyver> I feel sorry for you already cfhowlett.
[13:35] <jpmh> "actually AM" - really
[13:35] <cfhowlett> ZoiaGuyver: ... in Beijing.
[13:35] <diligentdino> cfhowlett, It takes all kinds. :)
[13:35] <dr_willis> engrish.com ;)
[13:35]  * cfhowlett OK, enough OT.  Ubuntu anyone?
[13:35] <julien__> il ni a pas de belge ?
[13:36]  * cfhowlett Belgian?
[13:36]  * ratcheer had a Belgian ale a couple of weeks ago. Yummy!
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> julien__:join #ubuntu-be
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !be|/me
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> shutdown time
[13:44] <usuario> Buenas, ¿algún support o alguien que pueda serme de ayuda?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !es|usuario:
[13:49] <maggie_paris> Hello all! I have a wifi problem with my Dell Inspiron 6400, which is on Ubuntu 12.04. It can connect to our wifi network, but the connection is very slow and sometimes it disconnects itself automatically. Can anyone help me please?
[13:51] <pillarsdotnet> How can I make an amd64 package specifically depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?
[13:51] <anti-freeze> maggie_paris, this might sound stupid, are you sure you have the drivers installed first off?
[13:52] <dr_willis> determining the exact wireless chipset and what driver its using is also a good first step
[13:52] <dr_willis> !wireless
[13:52] <rigo> sorry for the noob question, but is there a way to find out the difference between the (xbmc)buntu and openelec ir drivers and remote handels?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> dr_willis: braodcom iinm
[13:52] <rigo> cause oe handels the asus remote and ir, but xbmcbuntu doesnt.
[13:52] <maggie_paris> @anti-freeze I use the driver which was included in the Ubuntu install, and the Additional Drivers section of the System Settings does not show anything
[13:52] <dr_willis> rigo:  both are apps on top of the core of the linux OS.  so they could be identical or very different depending on what they are running on top of.
[13:52] <aidanjt> maggie_paris: did you have the same problem with Ubuntu 10.04?  The drivers for that Intel WiFi card is pretty reliable
[13:53] <maggie_paris> the chipset is intel 3945abg
[13:53] <dr_willis> rigo:  so id have to say check the openelec pages to see what kernel they are using for starters
[13:53] <maggie_paris> I had Windows XP and then Ubuntu 8.04 and then 12.04
[13:53] <rigo> and if i find out? is there a way to make the ir+remote work under xbmcbuntu?
[13:54] <sleepgone> Hello everyone
[13:54] <cfhowlett> sleepgone: greetings
[13:54] <dr_willis> rigo:  theres dozens of packages and tools for remotes under ubuntu rigo . so most likely yes.
[13:54] <dr_willis> I got a remote that emulates a keyboard. :) no drivers needed...
[13:54] <dr_willis> cost me a big $8 on amazon.
[13:55] <sleepgone> having a problem with the Unbutu 12 live cd booting. need help
[13:55] <aidanjt> maggie_paris: I have the same Intel wireless card and it's been very solid and painless for me, I bought it for that very reason.. all I could suggest is hardware problems?
[13:55] <rigo> great! in fact i have a mce ir but i would like to use the asus ir. (with harmony 650)
[13:55] <DrChaos> Hello. How do I do the apt on cd thing with a USB flash drive?
[13:55] <dr_willis> sleepgone:  details would help.
[13:56] <dr_willis> DrChaos:  you could copy the .iso file it makes to the usb, then mount the iso file on the other box. Ive see that  work for update media.
[13:56] <maggie_paris> aidanjt Maybe, but can't it be a driver problem?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: 2nd cold boot dint corrupt the mose this time, ill let you know tomorrow
[13:56] <dr_willis> maggie_paris:  you upgraded all teh systems?
[13:57] <sleepgone> created the "live" thing on USB. system does boot, but into a terminal window with "initramfs" as the prompt. can't seem to get out of this to install.
[13:57] <dr_willis> maggie_paris:  or are these a clean install >
[13:57] <maggie_paris> dr_willis I just installed the system and then done the updates
[13:57] <maggie_paris> it's a clean install
[13:57] <aidanjt> maggie_paris: I wouldn't say it's impossible to be a driver problem, but doesn't seem likely, 2 identical models should behave the same with the same driver
[13:57] <dr_willis> sleepgone:  you did check the md5sum of the iso file?  could be it was a bad download.
[13:58] <maggie_paris> aidanjt did you clean install ubuntu over windows xp?
[13:58] <soliloquy1> Hi. The wifi on my Macbook air running 12.04 has just stopped working.  It tries to connect for a long time, connects, but then cannot load pages, etc. The wifi network was working fine and is still working fine on my mac.
[13:59] <aidanjt> maggie_paris: yeah I've only run Linux on mine for years
[13:59] <sleepgone> don't know how to check the file. what should it be?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|sleepgone:
[14:00] <sleepgone> also, I've downloaded the same file twice from the Ubuntu website.
[14:00] <dr_willis> did you CHE$DK the md5sum however?
[14:00] <maggie_paris> ok, thank you all :) I think it's a hardware problem, I'll change the network card. Bye!
[14:00] <dr_willis> !md5
[14:00] <DrChaos> dr_willis: what are the dependencies for like e.g. build-essential? I see no way to get apt-on-cd on MS Windows
[14:00] <aidanjt> maggie_paris: good luck
[14:00] <cfhowlett> sleepgone: takes 60 seconds to check and verify...and bad downloads can and do happen even from the ubuntu site.  don't be lazy.
[14:00] <dr_willis> DrChaos:  no idea. I rarely need apt-on-cd
[14:00] <DrChaos> I just want gcc
[14:00] <maggie_paris> aidanjt: thanks, i'll need it :)
[14:01] <DrChaos> oh, and fluxbox
[14:01] <DrChaos> plus roxterm
[14:01] <DrChaos> and that will be it
[14:01] <sleepgone> reading "howto" brb
[14:01] <dr_willis> just 'gcc' is a little useless unless you are doing very very simple compiling. ;0
[14:02] <MartijnH> I followed the guide at http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/07/10/how-to-setup-ipv6-on-ubuntu-12-04-with-tunnelbroker but I don't seem to have Ipv6 connectivity yet. Could someone help me out with what I'm doing wrong?
[14:02] <dr_willis> i tend to just install sytuff on a connected box. then copy over the /var/cache/apt/ debs
[14:02] <DrChaos> yes, I would be. I might want Java especially, I want to program basic computer programs as I would love to become an expert computer programmer one day
[14:02] <DrChaos> ...maybe even a quantum physicist working with quantum computers
[14:02] <rocker> aa
[14:03] <rocker> hello
[14:03] <rocker> i;ve problem
[14:03] <dr_willis> you MOST likely want the 'build-esentials' package and all the dev stuff it pulls in for C
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | rocker
[14:03] <soliloquy1> I have a broadcom 43xx wificard that isn't working
[14:03] <ratcheer> MartijnH: Are you setting it up on your Ubuntu host or on your router?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: I can help.
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> soliloguy1:did you install the driver?
[14:03] <MartijnH> ratcheer, my ubuntu workstation which is in a NAT
[14:03] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: did it EVER work?  and what method did you use to install the driver?
[14:04] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: It did till 2 days ago. The driver came installed out of the box w/ ubuntu.
[14:04] <diligentdino> I can smbclient to my smb but I can't see it in nautilus?
[14:04] <MartijnH> my out-of-the-box consumer grade modem-with-integrated-router claims to be able to do ipv6
[14:04] <rocker> i want install xubuntu-desktop, but it requito nvidia-common, ive ATI Radeon HD 4000.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> the b43 is a kernel module , sudo modprobe b43 should do the trick
[14:04] <rocker> i havent nv
[14:04] <ratcheer> MartijnH: I did that a long time ago. It works better on the router. What tunnel broker are you trying to set up?
[14:04] <johnbee> Does anyone know why /etc/network/interfaces does not show eth'x' adaptors in xubuntu ?
[14:04] <MartijnH> ratcheer, HE
[14:05] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  try entering its address directly with the ip# instead of its hostname. ie:  smb://192.168.1.100/sharename
[14:05] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: Now it tries to connect for a long time, says its connected but then doesn't load pages
[14:05] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: try soliloquy1 NO pages anywhere or just some pages?
[14:05] <dr_willis> !info nvidia-common
[14:05] <Berto> Hi - Anyone know how to get a number pad working?  This is a logitech keyboard...
[14:05] <soliloquy1> lotuspsychje: the wifi worked out of the box w/ whatever driver it came with until 2 days ago, where it just stopped working.
[14:05] <MartijnH> ratcheer, my router is built in with my cable modem, and there is no way I can throw some reasonable firmware on there while keeping modem functionality
[14:05] <dr_willis> nvidia-common will not hurt your ati system
[14:05] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: no pages, anywhere
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> soliloguy1: whats the wifi security wep or wpa?
[14:06] <ratcheer> MartijnH: Ok, that's what I use. The instructions on he.net are very good.
[14:06] <Berto> Right now my mouse moves when i enter the numpad keys
[14:06] <soliloquy1> lotuspsychje: none
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> ok
[14:06] <soliloquy1> we live in the middle of nowhere and don't need it
[14:06] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: ping www.google.com and 8.8.8.8
[14:06] <aidanjt> MartijnH: IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnelling systems like tunnelbroker is meant to serve as a work around for people stuck with IPv4 so the router and your ISP shouldn't need to support IPv6 for it to work
[14:06] <soliloquy1> alright - I'll have to go reboot into ubuntu, so give me a minute
[14:06] <dr_willis> Berto:  I recall some  mode/feature to enable the keyboard/mouse on the numpad.. but not sure how you would accidently enable that.
[14:07] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/8664/how-to-get-numpad-out-of-mouse-emulation-mode
[14:07] <dr_willis> Or you can press SHIFT+NUMLOCK
[14:07] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: if no response, suspect dns settings.  Sorry, but while I know how to install the broadcom drivers, I know nothing of DNS.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: those broadcom drivers are indeed always a prob, i remember one time adding the driver from cdrom to make it properly work
[14:07] <ratcheer> aidanjt: The router has to at least pass the packets. But, he says he has an IPv6 compatible router, so that shouldn't be a problem.
[14:08] <Berto> thanks dr_willis - I had "mouse keys" on.  Disabled it, now nothing.
[14:08] <Berto> HEY! shift numlock got it!  Thanks dr_willis !!
[14:08] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: of late, I use the "no internet access" method and just extract directly the iso, do a little modprobe and voila!
[14:08] <dr_willis> ust a heads-up, in Ubuntu 12.04 (Unity) this "feature" can be enabled and disabled in the Universal Access dialogue under the Pointing and Clicking tab.
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nice trick ill keep in mind
[14:09] <MartijnH> ratcheer, the setup that is provided on HE's site isn't working
[14:09] <Berto> dr_willis THANKS !!!  combination of Mouse Keys + Shift Numlock.  That was WAY too hard for a veteran user.  That option should be a lot easier to set :)  I owe you a beer
[14:09] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: beats the heck out of compiling from the broadcom download
[14:09] <MartijnH> I'm not sure if I need linux-net-tools or linux-route2, but neither work
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: many users wont like compiling first time they install ubuntu lol
[14:10] <MartijnH> the command ip tunnel add he-ipv6 mode sit remote 216.66.84.46 local 62.194.104.217 ttl 255 fails with add tunnel sit0 failed: No such device
[14:10] <ratcheer> MartijnH: I would have to reboot to go see if I still have any of my old info. Are you going to be here a while?
[14:10] <MartijnH> ratcheer, I can idle
[14:11] <ratcheer> MartijnH: Ok, I'll be back in a few minutes.
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: can colortail -f log simultane logs in realtime?
[14:12] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  colortail colorizes in real time..
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: but can it display multiple logs same time?
[14:12] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: the broadcom STA driver's enabled, unknown host for google, 8.8.8.8 got destination unreachable
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> soliloguy1:rebooted?
[14:13] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  check its docs.. Ive only used it rarely. and often differnt log files. you want differnt colorizeing rules i recall.
[14:13] <sleepgone> ok, checked md5...doesn't match. Is this something that can be changed manually or is it due to bad download?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: then you're not connected.  Try rebooting and also reinitialize the router if connected.
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:no i would like to log syslog and other logs same time, so i got as many warnings in same terminal
[14:14] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: I've done both over and over and over. it says I'm connected, but I'm clearly not. It can see the wifi network, though.
[14:14] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  the formating of the differnt logs ive used int he past.. mean i want differnt rules for each log file.  ive not used color tail in perhaps 2 years.
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> ok
[14:15] <aidanjt> MartijnH: this might point you in the right direction: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Tunneled_IPv6
[14:15] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: DNS > over my head.  Stay in channel and ask patiently.
[14:15] <MartijnH> cheers aidanjt
[14:15] <soliloquy1> ooh - it's DNS? then I know where this is from
[14:15] <soliloquy1> my dad's a networking guy and must have done something funky
[14:15] <soliloquy1> and for some reason it isn't jelling nicely with my laptop even though everything else is fine
[14:16] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: oh, that's nice.  Blame the father!  :)
[14:16] <Nullable> hi
[14:16] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: but yeah, ask Dad about it.  Good luck.
[14:16] <cfhowlett> Nullable: greetings
[14:16] <soliloquy1> nah, he's great :) - we have *incredibly* fast internet as a result. The downside however is that it breaks about once a year or so
[14:17] <ratcheer> MartijnH: Ok, I'm back. It's unbelievable, but I do still have those old commands.
[14:17] <soliloquy1> anyway, thanks for the help
[14:17] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: best of luck.
[14:18] <MartijnH> ratcheer, great :D
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> u gotta love opensource support :p
[14:18] <MartijnH> ratcheer, I'm currently checking the guide at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Tunneled_IPv6 which aidanjt found for me
[14:18] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: as Dear Old Departed Dad used to say, "It's free advice and worth every penny!"
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nice1 mate
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i guess when ubuntu server troubles get solved here, it defenatly worth many pennys lol
[14:20] <zukirep> hey all if I have all my devices (/dev/sda1 etc.) under linux when one of them is supposed to be windows this is a problem right?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: yep.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> !nfts | zukirep
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: look in /media
[14:21] <tanzbaer> hey i*m looking for support to get a wireless network adapter running on ubuntu 12.04. you know where i can get some advice?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> zukirep: problem?  not necessarily.
[14:21] <zukirep> kk
[14:21] <cfhowlett> tanzbaer: details?
[14:21] <Pezz_12> @Pezz_12
[14:21] <tanzbaer> i have an adapter: atheros AR5007UG
[14:22] <cfhowlett> tanzbaer: ow.  I can't help - Broadcom only experience.
[14:23] <cefege123> how can I email more people on gmail, without them seeing the other people I mailed?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> cefegel123:thats not really an ubuntu question, but choose BCC to send the mails
[14:24] <cfhowlett> cefege123: BCC:  in the TO: box, send to yourself.  Put all other addresses in BCC
[14:24] <cfhowlett> cefege123: BCC = Blind Carbon Copy
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> tanzbaer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983003
[14:25] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, I checked in gparted and noticed that the windows partition is already mounted under /media/Acer (Acer is the computer I have)
[14:25] <tanzbaer> thank you
[14:26] <sleepgone> dr_willis: I've checked the md5...don't match. could the difference be due to interrupted downloads because of slow internet connection or can this be something that can be manually fixed? is there a work-around?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> zukirep:cool but to automount this drive at your ubuntu boot, install ntfs-3g
[14:26] <eddible> Hi There
[14:27] <zukirep> lotuspsychje do I access that through the nts-config program?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: yes
[14:27] <cfhowlett> eddible: greetings
[14:28] <zukirep> lotuspsychje I messed around the ntfs-config yesterday and now it doesnt go to the start of the program, it goes straight to NTFS write support configuration tool
[14:28] <eddible> recently returned to Ubuntu, after a lengthy absence....in which I've relapsed into a linux virgin
[14:28] <eddible> Installed 12.04 on my cheap netbook....having issues ge3tting it to find the 945gse graphics and touchpad....help?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !info ntfs-3g | zukirep
[14:28] <cfhowlett> eddible: yep.  cheap netbook needs lubuntu or xubuntu.
[14:29] <cfhowlett> eddible: both are meant for lower spec/older machines.  ubuntu is NOT...
[14:29] <eddible> FEck. Download and reinstall?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> eddible:what system specs u got on the netbook?
[14:29] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, does that mean I choose the enable write support for internal device?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: yes that will add automount the drive at boot
[14:30] <root3ud1> hayy
[14:30] <amellenico> Ciao a tutti
[14:30] <eddible> Atom 210 (1.6gHz), 1Gb ram.....Intel 945GSE Chipset....heavy duty :p
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !it | amellenico
[14:30] <cfhowlett> eddible: fraid so.  I'm on ubuntustudio, so had to switch to xubuntu/XFCE as the platform.  Not bad.  Lubuntu/LXDE is nice too.
[14:30] <cfhowlett> root3ud1: greetings
[14:30] <aidanjt> cfhowlett: meh, my laptop's 945 chipset works ok, not awesomely fluid, but still works alright
[14:30] <amellenico> qualcuna parla italiano?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> english
[14:30] <pepperjack> eddible: it's amusing that someone would say the new ubuntu gui is unsuited a netbook.. I would google a bit to get confirmation of someone running a specific distro with your netbook model.
[14:30] <Guest49288> ciao
[14:31] <Guest49288> io parlo italiano
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest49288
[14:31] <cfhowlett> eddible: atom?  xubuntu or lubuntu.  try em both, choose a flavor.
[14:31] <Guest49288> ok
[14:31] <bolly> What do you guys do on here? :)
[14:31] <eddible> @ cfhowlett.....thanks plenty!!!! Back in a bit......after a re-install
[14:31] <cfhowlett> eddible: be safe, have fun.
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i run precise 64bit on netbook, works flawless with compiz and unity
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> bolly: support ubuntu problems
[14:32] <fusion271> somehow hosed my Ubuntu 10.04 install on a nettop PC, boots right now to a stripped down shell (ash).  Loaded the latest .iso on to a usb drive, in bios pointed the system to boot from removable device, but isn't booting off of USB drive, any ideas?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: I understand it can be done, my point was the xubuntu and lubuntu are DESIGNED for low spec/older machines e.g. atom
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: it will indeed run faster for sure
[14:33] <Testesso> ciao
[14:33] <Testesso> !list
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !it | Testesso
[14:33] <bolly> lotuspsychje: Okkk
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> bolly: so if you have an ubuntu problem go ahead and ask
[14:34] <mhahe> hey guys im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 along side windows 7. my laptop has 2 HDDs from what i read it has a sata raid controller and since im no expert linux user im guessing thats why the drive names when trying to set up partitions /dev/mapper/ instead of the usual /dev/sda or /dev/sdb.. but the installation keeps failing on installing grub 2
[14:34] <mhahe> any thoughts?
[14:34] <bolly> lotuspsychje: Ok,I don't even know the meaning of ubuntu,I'm new on here
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | bolly
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !raid | mhahe
[14:36] <bolly> ubottu: I think I get it now,thanks
[14:36] <aidanjt> fusion271: try using dd to write the iso over the usb stick like: `dd if=ubuntu-blah-12.04.1.iso of=/dev/sdX` where X is the device node
[14:36] <diligentdino> If smb was a physical object. I would have tossed it across the room by now :/
[14:36] <dr_willis> mhahe:  id just not use the raid, and use the system with 1 hd for windows and one for linux
[14:37] <fusion271> aidanjt: trying to find the device but fdisk isn't present in ash
[14:37] <zukirep> anyone know why I keep ending up on the recovery menu when I boot?
[14:37] <aidanjt> fusion271: dmesg | tail should show it after pluging it in
[14:37] <bolly> ubottu: lol,ok :)
[14:37] <sleepgone> Hello again.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> sleepgone: greetings
[14:38] <fusion271> no dmesg either :( aidanjt
[14:38] <Darkenvy> Hello, problem: Fresh clean install of 12.04, having video stutter and skipping. Music stutters also but youtube videos go into 8x speedups
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: you mean grub always load at boot?
[14:38] <diligentdino> doesn't smb write specific connection logs. I can connect to the share with nautilus I just can't get into it.
[14:38] <aidanjt> fusion271: bugger lol.. umm, I guess you can do an ls /dev/sd* before and after insertion
[14:38] <zukirep> well on top of the menu it says system recovery menu
[14:38] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  give example of what you mean.
[14:38] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, there is a grub option i think or it might have been grub update
[14:39] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  there are samba clients other then nautilus also.. nautiluas has been flakey for me in the past with connecting to shares
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: is it grub or some recovery menu of your machine?
[14:39] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, I mean it has resume normal boot, clean dpkg, fsck, root
[14:40] <bolly> bye all!
[14:40] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, not sure but it looks similar to other peoples recovery menu when I google it under ubuntu
[14:40] <diligentdino> dr_willis, I can smb://ip/folder and get the login prompt. I just can't get past that, I'm not sure what the issue is. I can smbclient with both Ids I have setup for the share. I just can't connect into it.
[14:40] <Nullable> I'm trying to install 12.04 minimal server on a XenServer 5.6 server, but once I choose any option in the "ubuntu CD boot menu" the "screen" resizes a few times and then it just turns black
[14:40] <Darkenvy> I will be here all day so dont be afraid to help, PM or shout my name :)
[14:40] <fusion271> taking a look aidanjt
[14:40] <bolly> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[14:40] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  this is connecting to a windows machine or a linux one?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> bolly:np mate
[14:40] <diligentdino> dr_jesus, linux
[14:41] <diligentdino> dr_willis, linux, no windows in my network
[14:41] <sleepgone> As per suggestions, I've checked md5 checksums. They don't match. Is this something that can be manually changed? is there a work-around? is this due to bad internet connection type of download disrupts?
[14:41] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  for the user on the server you are connecting as.. you did give them a samba password  via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[14:41] <dr_willis> On the server..
[14:41] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, it looks like this: http://ubuntugenius.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/recovery-mode.png%3Fw%3D500%26h%3D278
[14:41] <cfhowlett> sleepgone: download again.  no workaround.  scrambled iso is scrambled.
[14:41] <aidanjt> sleepgone: try using wget -c http://web.url.of/file
[14:42] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, well slightly different i think but pretty similar
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: you got this one time or every boot automaticly?
[14:42] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  no windows machines at all.. then why use samba? scp/sshfs would be easier to setup.
[14:42] <aidanjt> sleepgone: I find wget far more reliable
[14:42] <diligentdino> dr_willis, I used gadmin-samba to build the conf and samba's gui client for the users and shares.
[14:42] <cfhowlett> sleepgone: consider using the torrent option rather than direct download.
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: thats ubuntu recover screen yes
[14:42] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, every boot automatically
[14:42] <aidanjt> cfhowlett: or that
[14:42] <diligentdino> dr_willis, unfortunatly i need smb for visitors
[14:42] <fusion271> aidanjt: got sdc1, sdc, sdb, sda5, sda2, sda1, sda
[14:42] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  try setting the users smbpassword  is all about all i can say.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: thats not very normal indeed, not sure what happens mate..did you messed with grub file?
[14:43] <aidanjt> fusion271: what changes between ls'ing before and after?.. I'm guessing it's sdc, but best to be sure
[14:43] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, it started last night when I tried using the ntfs config and messed with the grub file
[14:43] <dr_willis> I only use the most basic of samba setupt. i never use any of the admin/guiadmin tools for samba.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> zukirep:lol, pastebin grub in channel plz
[14:43] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, all I did in the grub file was add 1 second so that I had time to press shift on boot
[14:43] <sleepgone> Ok. thanks to all that've helped. have a great day and GOD bless.
[14:43] <cfhowlett> sleepgone: best of lucck
[14:43] <dr_willis> You an enable verbose logging for the samba server to see why/who is connecting and why they are getting refued.
[14:43] <dr_willis> refused.
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: i think you accidentaly choosed ubuntu recovery as default first boot in grub...
[14:44] <fusion271> aidanjt: I'm sorry I don't understand the question
[14:44] <fusion271> aidanjt:  should I just mount all of them and see what's in them?
[14:44] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, should it say GRUB_DEFAULT=1
[14:44] <zukirep> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[14:44] <diligentdino> dr_willis, is that a setting in the config? .I not sure which log samba is writing the connections into
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !grub2 > lotuspsychje
[14:44] <aidanjt> fusion271: if you do an ls /dev/sd* before inserting the USB stick you should get less nodes than ls /dev/sd* after you plug it in, the new node which shows up in /dev should be the USB stick
[14:45] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  all its logs are in /var/log/samba/
[14:45] <fusion271> aidanjt: ahh I see what you're saying ...checking
[14:45] <aidanjt> :)
[14:45] <fusion271> sdc & sdc1
[14:45] <aidanjt> yeah though so
[14:45] <dr_willis> from smb.conf
[14:45] <dr_willis>  We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog. Everything
[14:45] <dr_willis> # should go to /var/log/samba/log.{smbd,nmbd} instead. If you want to log
[14:45] <aidanjt> so you should be able to dd the iso over that
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: insert your ubuntu boot cd, and choose boot repair
[14:46] <diligentdino> hmm ill check ty
[14:46] <fusion271> so mount the two of those aidanjt?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[14:46] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, tried to boot with the ubuntu cd earlier, still goes straight to the recovery menu
[14:46] <dr_willis> diligentdino:  about all i ever do is install samba, edit the smb.conf to enable the HOME shares. and give all my users smbpasswords via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[14:46] <aidanjt> fusion271: no need, you can write the image directly to the stick and it'll set up the boot sector and partitions
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: you need to set cdrom as first boot in bios, then it will load
[14:47] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, oo okay, how exactly do I do that?
[14:47] <fusion271> aidanjt: does the presence of 2 entries (sdc & sdc1) mean there are 2 partitions on the stick?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> zukirep: reboot and press DEL or F2 then choose boot order, and set Dcrom as first
[14:47] <Nullable> Problem: I'm trying to install 12.04 minimal server on a XenServer 5.6 server, but once I choose any option in the "ubuntu CD boot menu" the "screen" resizes a few times and then it just turns black
[14:47] <aidanjt> fusion271: /dev/sdc is the device node, and /dev/sdc1 is the primary partition
[14:47] <aidanjt> so dd of=/dev/sdc
[14:47] <zukirep> lotuspsychje, ok will do, thanks
[14:48] <fusion271> ok the image, according to my mac book is already on the stick
[14:48] <fusion271> the image, that it, is already on the stick
[14:48] <mithran> hai all am facing a problem that i cant update my ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179806/
[14:48] <TechnodicT_>  Lotusphychje...the Sd card reader was indeed the problem...
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> TechnodicT_:was it completly broken?
[14:49] <Troy^> ok how come it is like my screen didn't full unfade from black.. my screen is so dark and hard to see?
[14:49] <TechnodicT_> I guess...I replaced it with a I ball brand reader and it worked like magic...!
[14:50] <cfhowlett> TechnodicT_: magic!
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:50] <TechnodicT_> Haha.!
[14:50] <acer> hi all ! I try to setup dovecot and I get connection was refused
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> welcome to ubuntu, this is where the magix happens!
[14:50] <aidanjt> fusion271: yeah best use dd in case whatever usb boot programme you used messed up.. I had a problem even with the ubuntu usb creator and an old fedora install I had on a USB stick, and I just dd'ed the ubuntu image over and it worked perfectly
[14:51] <aldo_> Magix ;)
[14:51] <acer> which log should I look into ?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> acer: dpkg log?
[14:51] <TechnodicT_> Yea indeed 3 years of using ubuntu was indeed pleasing...!!
[14:51] <mithran> help me please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179806/
[14:52] <aldo_> has anybody been successful at using a iPhone 4s on Ubuntu?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> mithran, close compiz and try again
[14:52] <diligentdino> dr_willis, any other suggestions? none of the logs are even updating
[14:52] <TechnodicT_> I phone on ubuntu?
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> aldo_:you meaning the file transfering part?
[14:53] <aldo_> lotuspsychje: yea, sorry.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> aldo_:you need to install stuff...if i remember some lib...
[14:53] <mithran> BluesKaj: i have not installed the copiz
[14:53] <cfhowlett> TechnodicT_: not THAT much magic (yet)
[14:53] <aldo_> lotuspsychje: is there a wiki on it?
[14:54] <fusion271> aidanjt:  thanks for your help, I gotta get going to work, gonna note our conversation and try and get back on it later
[14:54] <cfhowlett> aldo_: file transfers maybe not synch
[14:54] <aldo_> :*(
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> also_:search for libimobiledevice or something
[14:54] <cfhowlett> aldo_: on my ipod, I can see the various folders and manually copy files but no synch
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett:by default?
[14:55] <aldo_> cfhowlett: so you were able to transfer your mp3s? and play them?
[14:55] <cfhowlett> aldo_: no, I could see the folder with pics and downloads.  Had to manually transfer them
[14:56] <root3ud1> % telnet irc.freenode.net 6667
[14:56] <BluesKaj> mithran, in the terminal , sudo dpkg --configure -a , the try updating again
[14:56] <acer> lotuspsychje dpkg log ?
[14:56] <aldo_> aw shoot
[14:56] <acer> never used it
[14:56] <diligentdino> Having smb password issues. I can see the shares in every way possible. It just won't accept my password for any of the users when I try to browse to the share
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> acer: check /var/log
[14:56] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje aldo| thus far, so far as I know, no one has cracked IOS to any meaningful level- and probably won't as it's changed so significantly and frequently
[14:57] <mithran> BluesKaj: ok
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> !info libimobiledevice
[14:57] <aldo_> the only way I know is to jailbreak then ssh into it
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> lets keep ubuntu ontopic
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i mean could you browse files by default, not install iphone package or some?
[14:58] <aldo_> Ubuntu is awesome :)
[14:58] <cfhowlett> aldo_: agree with lotuspsych.  let's continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:58] <aldo_> Ok
[14:58] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: correct and offtopic
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:58] <acer> dovecot-info.log seemd to say no auth attempts
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> acer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
[14:59] <cfhowlett> It's been real y'all, but I've gotta work in the morning.  Over and out.
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett:cheers mate and tnx for support
[15:01] <histo> diligentdino: is this windows to linux share or are you browsing linux to linux ?
[15:02] <diligentdino> histo, it's linux to linux right now.
[15:04] <lordnikon> hi all
[15:04] <Xeronetmota> Hey
[15:05] <histo> diligentdino: why not use NFS but either way check this guid out https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[15:06] <etteyafed> If I have installed Ubuntu (several months ago) with an encrypted home then changed my password and forgot it because I haven't logged in for a few weeks is there ANY way to recover any data? I assume the answer is "no, not really."
[15:06] <paaaawerrr> hello
[15:06] <diligentdino> histo, Only reason I don't use something else is for visitors. Need them to be able to take advantage of the shares. Thanks for the link I'll look at it.
[15:06] <paaaawerrr> i want to install xubuntu-desktop
[15:07] <paaaawerrr> I've problem,i want to install xubuntu-desktop, but it require nvidia-common :( how to repair that?
[15:08] <histo> diligentdino: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileprint-security.html  here is a complete description of the security settings
[15:09] <histo> paaaawerrr: xubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that installs a bunch of other packages. If you want you can just install xfce
[15:09] <paaaawerrr> histo , no, XFCE4 is bad, Xubuntu is Better
[15:10] <paaaawerrr> Volume splash working on Xubuntu, on XFCE not ... -.-0
[15:10] <theadmin> paaaawerrr: Sure, because xfce4-mixer is not really a part of "xfce4" when you install it like that. Add that and it'll work.
[15:11] <paaaawerrr> so anyone know how to install xubuntu-desktop without nvidia-current?
[15:11] <giampi61> hello
[15:11] <paaaawerrr> nv-common*
[15:11] <tech1> whats that command which checks and installls any dependencies you need for installed packages?
[15:11] <paaaawerrr> i has bedore NV 9800
[15:12] <paaaawerrr> but this card yesterday stop working , and im now using inrtegrated card ( ATI 4200 HD)
[15:12] <histo> paaaawerrr: You would have to install the packages individually
[15:12] <paaaawerrr> im removed nv drivers but (by purge)
[15:12] <paaaawerrr> and im install ATI drivers
[15:13] <giampi61> I have a problem: every now and then I get the message: The disk drive for / media / data is not ready yet or not present. Wait or press S to skip mount or M for manual recovery: why? you can solve the problem? With the other sets of ubuntu, never had problem, only with the new version of ubuntu 12.04 . If you turn on the PC 10 times,,,, 6 times the word appears (the hard data does not exist), 4 times correctly enters this disc.
[15:13] <paaaawerrr> but  now no working h264 and mencoder , and all 3D Linux games -.-
[15:13] <paaaawerrr> and i cannot install Xubuntu -.-
[15:13] <paaaawerrr> becvuase require nv packge...i have now ATI.. lulz.. maybe format?
[15:13] <k1l> giampi61: is it an usb hdd?
[15:13] <paaaawerrr> of  Xubuntu?
[15:14] <paaaawerrr> histo, Formaat help?
[15:14] <theadmin> paaaawerrr: "nvidia-common" is not an NVidia driver package.
[15:14] <theadmin> paaaawerrr: It's simply a tool to install nvidia drivers, you'll be fine if that's pulled in.
[15:14] <paaaawerrr> lol...i print ScreenShot
[15:14] <theadmin> paaaawerrr: As for ati drivers, you have to apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle
[15:14] <dr_willis> someone asked about nvidia-common earlier.. :) got the same answer   'dont worry about it'
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[15:15] <paaaawerrr> dr_willis, theadmin but mencoder requre vudpau ( something like that).... vp is NV! not ATI
[15:15] <k1l> giampi61: its possible, that the hdd is not ready yet, when ubuntu tries to mount it
[15:15] <SpaceBass2> hey folks
[15:16] <dr_willis> i dont see why an encoder would require vupadu..
[15:16] <k1l> giampi61: i had this problem with an usb hdd, which needed alot time to spin up
[15:16] <theadmin> dr_willis: From "apt-cache show nvidia-common | grep -i description": Description-en: Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers This package will find obsolete NVIDIA drivers in use,detect the hardware and recommend the most appropriate driver."
[15:16] <SpaceBass2> I'm trying to get a backup app running on an 11.04 box? it doesn't err, but it never starts when executed from the CLI. Checked /var/logs/syslog and don't see anything. How can I troubleshoot?
[15:16] <etteyafed> Hi everyone. I am preparing to install the new 12.04.1 LTS release on my laptop (replacing an older Ubuntu install) and I have a couple of quick questions about prefered cpu architecture. Anyone up for it? Really should be fairly straight forward for anyone that has been using ubuntu regularly lately.
[15:17] <dr_willis> SpaceBass2:  and how are you trying to automate it?
[15:17] <mithran> BluesKaj: what is the purpose of the command   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:17] <theadmin> etteyafed: Basically, if your processor can deal with it, use 64-bit.
[15:17] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, not trying to automate it at all?. just trying to get it to launch
[15:17] <giampi61> k1l,   but not mounts never
[15:17] <dr_willis> SpaceBass2:  launch it how?
[15:18] <etteyafed> theadmin: Having not installed a new version of Ubuntu in a year or so (a little more actually) I am not up to date on the state of current linux drivers. Since I don't really need 64 bit memory addressing (3gb ram) on my laptop I usually go for the 32 bit install since driver compatibility is generally more reliable there. There are however sometimes cases when 64 bit is better/required for some kernel modules.
[15:18] <etteyafed>  So for a new install of 12.04.1 LTS should I still go with the 32 bit or would 64 bit be better now?
[15:18] <contervis> !list
[15:18] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, it's an executable? which I think is just a wrapper for a java gui app
[15:18] <k1l> giampi61: you said its not always the problem
[15:18] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, sudo Crashplan
[15:18] <dr_willis> etteyafed:  i use 64bit on all hardware that can handle it...
[15:18] <theadmin> etteyafed: Pretty much all drivers I know work on 64-bit...
[15:18] <dr_willis> SpaceBass2:  so whats not working about it?
[15:18] <SpaceBass2> etteyafed, I use 64 for new installs, no problems
[15:19] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, it never runs ? gui doesn't appear, it's not in listed in ps or top ? nothing ?. works on other ubuntu server boxen
[15:19] <rsser> what ubuntu version does it support better wi-fi for notebook?
[15:19] <giampi61> k1l,  only with ubuntu 12.04: the other versions no problem, you can fix?
[15:19] <dr_willis> SpaceBass2:  no error messages at all? just returns to the command line?
[15:19] <etteyafed> My HW can handle 64 bit and I prefer to use it. Just that in the past I have had a couple of minor issues with 64 bit.
[15:19] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, exactly
[15:19] <mithran> sudo dpkg --configure -a      what is the impact of this command
[15:19] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, so trying to figure out how to troubleshoot - where to look for errors
[15:20] <k1l> giampi61: i bet its the too slow hdd and ubuntu boots to fast
[15:20] <dr_willis> SpaceBass2:  compare the java versions on working and non working machines. and what java is being used.
[15:20] <SpaceBass2> dr_willis, ah, good call
[15:20] <rsser> I can't make wi-fi of ubuntu works with windows 7 network
[15:20] <mithran> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg --configure -a      what is the impact of this command
[15:20] <k1l> etteyafed: just go with 64bit if your cpu can handle that
[15:20] <BluesKaj> mithran, that command finishes any pending updates
[15:20] <paaaawerrr> theadmin, http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5171/przechwycenieobrazuekrat.png
[15:21] <etteyafed> theadmin: Thanks. I figured the 64 bit specific bugs had mostly been resolved in the last couple of years but I thought I would check here first rather than dredging around Launchpad for a couple of hours.
[15:21] <k1l> rsser: there is no windows7 network.
[15:21] <mithran> BluesKaj: Thank u very much
[15:21] <ls612> Hi all
[15:21] <dr_willis> rsser:  details would be handy.
[15:21] <theadmin> paaaawerrr: Again, I tell you, that's FINE. It's NOT an nvidia driver, it's not going to do anything bad. It's a tool to detect old NVidia drivers and replace them with new ones.
[15:21] <mithran> BluesKaj: thanks alot
[15:21] <paaaawerrr> hmm
[15:21] <theadmin> etteyafed: Meh, I've been on 64-bit for a few months now, it's fine
[15:21] <rsser> k1l, I meant I'm connect ubuntu wi-fi network with windows wi-fi network
[15:21] <theadmin> paaaawerrr: Read the package description.
[15:21] <paaaawerrr> theadmin, are u sure?
[15:21] <giampi61> k1l, but it is the same hhd I used for the other versions of ubuntu
[15:21] <dr_willis> theadmin:  are you really really really really sure? :)  i mean..it mentions nvidia! ;P
[15:22] <rsser> BUT they are seems incompatitable
[15:22] <SpaceBass2> theadmin, etteyafed yeah, same here, using 64 without issue on desktop (usually in VMs)
[15:22] <ls612> I think that I have a rootkit on my W7 system, and I would like to scan the system from a live USB, but my ethernet adapter is not yet compatable with the Linux kernel. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[15:22] <dr_willis> ls612:  wired or wireless?
[15:22] <rsser> I need ubuntu version for better support to wi-fi cards
[15:22] <ls612> Both.
[15:22] <theadmin> rsser: Eh, all official Ubuntu releases have exact same built-in drivers
[15:22] <dr_willis> ls612:  its a rare wired network card that dosent work on linux.
[15:22] <k1l> rsser: does you wifi work?
[15:22] <ls612> My comp is literally a month old, it has the Atheros AR8161.
[15:23] <etteyafed> paaawerrr: nvidia-common? its not the kerrnel module. Read the description of the package listed on the ubuntu site if you want to be sure.
[15:23] <ls612> I've discussed this before, the kernel doesn't have support for it yet.
[15:23] <k1l> rsser: and there is no windows network. describe your problem more specific
[15:23] <rsser> okay, K1rk
[15:23] <rsser> k1l
[15:23] <dr_willis> ls612:  try some of the newer releases on the disrtowatch web site.  they may have updated  kernel/drivers.
[15:23] <etteyafed> paaaawerrr: https://launchpad.net/nvidia-common
[15:23] <ls612> Not as of the Quantal daily from this Monday.
[15:24] <rsser> I have a windows 7 wi-fi network. But the ubuntu can't connect to this network.
[15:24] <dr_willis> ls612:   its possibel drivers for it are not in  the kernel source code yet.
[15:24] <ls612> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/927782
[15:24] <k1l> rsser: is this a router wifi network? or dou you mean you made some folder on a windosw7 machine for public access
[15:25] <ls612> I know, and that is my issue, I want to scan for rootkits on my existing W7 system.
[15:25] <paaaawerrr> A program to make dist-upgrades easier when the NVIDIA driver is installed, i havent NV drivers installed
[15:25] <dr_willis> paaaawerrr:  will you install the silly thing allready and move on.. it wont hurt anything
[15:25] <dr_willis> paaaawerrr:  i imagine theres dozens of things installed that you may never need also...
[15:25] <rsser> k1l, I want to share the internet between computers
[15:26] <rsser> but ubuntu didn't get into the network
[15:26] <dr_willis> rsser:  you meabn an ad-hoc network?
[15:26] <ThinkT510> !ics | rsser
[15:26] <paaaawerrr> idk why but in inregraded card not working 3D Games =(
[15:26] <rsser> the wifi internet is infrastructure
[15:27] <paaaawerrr> AMD has wort drivers (linux) that NV/
[15:27] <paaaawerrr> ??
[15:27] <rsser> ThinkT510, thanks to you, i am gonna see right now
[15:28] <ls612> Does anyone know how I could add rootkit scanning software to a live USB without having internet access in Ubuntu?
[15:29] <diligentdino> ls612, I'd wonder if it's possible to partition the thumb drive and put the tools you will need on the other partition?
[15:30] <ls612> IDK, that sounds complicated. I should probably find where I put YUMI.
[15:30] <dr_willis> ls612:  theres live-disrtos like tinycorelinux that you install what you want on the fly/to the cache. and they stay on the flash drive.
[15:30] <diligentdino> ls612, or maybe you can try trin-rescue
[15:31] <ls612> I don't want to actually install linux, only use it to scan my Windows install for rootkits.
[15:31] <Ion330HT> Hi everyone, I am having some printer issues for my print share
[15:31] <diligentdino> ls612, trin-rescue runs off live-cd. you don't install it
[15:31] <ls612> Could you give me a link for that please?
[15:32] <diligentdino> ls612, google for it. or try distrowatch.org
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ls612, having to scan for rootkits on windows with a linux app , should tell you that you need a safer OS :)
[15:33] <Ion330HT> I run Ubuntu Nautilus 64bit which acts as the print server for a Samsung SCX-4500 which is connected to the ubuntu computer via usb. I try to use it on a Vista 32bit computer. I can see the printer fine over the network as I have both Samba and Cups running but for some reason when I try to use the printer on vista it complains about missing drives. I install them manually and then vista say
[15:33] <Ion330HT> that it cannot connect to the printer?
[15:33] <Ion330HT> any thoughts on how this can be fixed?
[15:33] <giampi61> k1l, no solution?
[15:33] <ls612> BluesKaj: I've already found them using a windows-based rootkit scanner, I just want to independently confirm that those were the only ones.
[15:33] <pvfd> So i need a little help running this install.sh file. Can anybody help me, please?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> well. maybe some windows gurus could hwlp you , you can ask in ##windows chat too , ls612
[15:35] <k1l> giampi61: no. i think its a hardware thing. the hdd starts too slow
[15:35] <pvfd> this is ubuntu 10.04
[15:35] <pkkm> Is there a command that would replace non-printable characters with escapes like \r, \b, \001, etc.?
[15:35] <giampi61> k1l,    ok thanks
[15:36] <pvfd> anybody know how to run install.sh files?
[15:37] <TechnodicT_> Pvfd go to terminal
[15:37] <pvfd> im there
[15:37] <TechnodicT_> Go to the path of install.sh
[15:37] <pvfd> cd to it right?
[15:37] <TechnodicT_> Yup
[15:39] <TechnodicT_> Then type.  ./ install.sh
[15:39] <pvfd> so my command should look like this right [cd /home/pvfd/Downloads/RTL8192CU_8188CUS_8188CE-VAU_linux_v3.1.2590.20110922]
[15:39] <TechnodicT_> Go to the main folder where the file exist
[15:40] <pvfd> is that a space between ./ install.sh?
[15:40] <TechnodicT_> Then type ./filename.sh
[15:40] <mhahe> hey guys im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 along side windows 7. my laptop has 2 HDDs from what i read it has a sata raid controller and since im no expert linux user im guessing thats why the drive names when trying to set up partitions /dev/mapper/ instead of the usual /dev/sda or /dev/sdb.. but the installation keeps failing on installing grub 2
[15:40] <mhahe> any thoughts?
[15:40] <TechnodicT_> Try space if it doset work
[15:41] <maamed> hello . i want to increase the size of a folder in ubuntu. i know i can do it by scrolling mouse scroll ball but this makes bigger all folders in the folder  i only want one of them to make big how can i do that
[15:41] <TechnodicT_> Mhaha.. try using gparted for partitionin
[15:41] <aidanjt> mhahe: are you using raid functions on your motherboard?
[15:42] <mhahe> TechnodicT_, I did, ive tried install alongside and manual after freeing up disk space for ubuntu
[15:42] <TechnodicT_> Ok
[15:42] <maamed> hello . i want to increase the size of a folder in ubuntu. i know i can do it by scrolling mouse scroll ball but this makes bigger all folders in the folder  i only want one of them to make big how can i do that
[15:43] <mhahe> aidanjt, im not sure exactly what you mean.. only thing i can think of is when im setting up partitions from live cd /, /home,swap, /boot   I am asked to turn on raid controller
[15:43] <mhahe> I say yes
[15:43] <mhahe> and proceed
[15:43] <Troy^> I'm having a hard time for my ubuntu box to get DNS???? everytime i reboot it it fails to get DNS server i guess and i'm totally stumped the box is setup static
[15:44] <krababbel> mhahe: maamed wants the icon bigger I'd guess
[15:44] <maamed> krababbel, only the one i want not all of them
[15:44] <mhahe> krababbel, whats that?
[15:44] <TechnodicT_> Mhahe are u using wubi?
[15:44] <mhahe> i did try it once
[15:45] <krababbel> maamed: sorry, I don't know how, I think KDE can do this
[15:45] <mhahe> as in popped the cd in and clicked on wubi
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Troy^, try adding your dns nameservers to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[15:45] <mhahe> whats the difference?
[15:45] <maamed> i use gnome i see krababbel
[15:45] <Troy^> BluesKaj: /head?
[15:45] <mhahe> TechnodicT_, for the most part i just restart and boot off live cd
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Troy^, ignore the warning , it will write the dns servers to /etc/resolv,conf
[15:46] <TechnodicT_> Mhahe as you ARE New to linux u should stick to wubi
[15:46] <aidanjt> mhahe: whatever hard drive controller you're using, whether it be one which came built into your computer's motherboard, or a budget raid addin card, is providing software raid with a slightly clever BIOS, anywho, these are very poorly supported.. so if you need windows and RAID, you might consider running Ubuntu in a virtual machine to avoid dual booting
[15:46] <maamed> i foun it krababbel
[15:46] <Troy^> BluesKaj: yea because i opened resolv.conf and it said any changes to this will not be kept. so "nameservers 192.168.2.1" correct?
[15:46] <mhahe> aidanjt, whats the alternative? re-install windows without raid?
[15:47] <krababbel> maamed: nice :)
[15:47] <maamed> but only works in desktop
[15:47] <aidanjt> mhahe: yeah, or buy a hardware raid card with linux support
[15:47] <maamed> it does not work in folders in home
[15:47] <maamed> yuck
[15:47] <krababbel> maamed: the file manager should support it i think, I don't use kde or gnome
[15:47] <aidanjt> mhahe: linux has fantastic software raid, but unfortunately windows can't use it
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Troy^, depends what your dns server IPs are
[15:48] <Troy^> well the router is the dns server
[15:48] <Troy^> i guess
[15:48] <maamed> krababbel, wht do you use
[15:48] <mhahe> aidanjt, i just got a brand new sony vaio z model svz13114gxx, so im getting another controller isnt an option
[15:48] <aidanjt> mhahe: a laptop with raid?
[15:48] <laurent_> tope
[15:48] <krababbel> maamed: i3-wm, and only emelfm2, rarely for file manager
[15:48] <mhahe> aidanjt, yea dunno why
[15:49] <maamed> oky
[15:49] <Troy^> BluesKaj: should i use isp dns servers or just the routers IP and use its DNS resolving? Also was just curious if "nameservers" was the proper parameter to add
[15:49] <mhahe> aidanjt, check it out svz13114gxx
[15:49] <aidanjt> mhahe: hmmm, probably uses matrix raid.. you may be in luck, try installing ubuntu with the alternative installer disc
[15:49] <mhahe> aidanjt, 2 ssd hds
[15:49] <aidanjt> yeah just googled it
[15:49] <aidanjt> sweet machine
[15:49] <mhahe> aidanjt, i did, still failed on grub 2 install
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Troy^, some dns nsmeservers just use the IP in /etc/hosts
[15:50] <mhahe> aidanjt, yea im so excited about it so been trying to figure it out for 10 hours now
[15:50] <TechnodicT_> What is the error?
[15:50] <attenzione> siemano
[15:50] <aidanjt> mhahe: bugger.. i thought they would have fixed that by now by using mdadm
[15:50] <mhahe> aidanjt, getting sick of it now lol
[15:50] <aidanjt> I don't blame you
[15:50] <aidanjt> but yeah, virtualisation is the most hassle-free method and keeping raid
[15:50] <attenzione> jest jakis polak?
[15:51] <Troy^> BluesKaj: that is not what i really asking but i'm so confused now... and all these dns problems are so frustrating lol
[15:51] <pepperjack> Troy^: id use the router as my nameserver then set the router to use whatever dns server.  google's 8.8.8.8 and .7 or whatever. i distrust isp dns
[15:51] <mhahe> aidanjt, well only thing stopping me from completely getting rid of windows is not knowing if ill get the same error when installing ubuntu using all the disk space. then im screwwed
[15:51] <kingd> hola
[15:51] <mhahe> aidanjt, need some os to fall back on
[15:52] <Troy^> pepperjack: i didn't even know you could do that
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Troy^, if you aren't using a dns hosting service then it should matter in your network settings
[15:52] <BluesKaj> should not matter
[15:52] <pepperjack> Troy^: there should be a field on your router administration page
[15:52] <kingd> holaa espa?ol?
[15:52] <aidanjt> mhahe: ah well in that case just disable the raid functions in the bios setup, wipe the ssds and do a proper linux software raid install
[15:52] <Troy^> will setting the dns server to 8.8.8.8 possibly affect anything else?
[15:52] <diligentdino> pepperjack, you have that logic backwards. Google logs everything, and has been known to break the law with personal data. ISPs don't log enough information to identify specific individuals.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> pepperjack, it's probly set to auto dns in his router admin settings
[15:53] <Troy^> BluesKaj: i added that line you told me to that file restarted network and still no dns resolving.
[15:54] <Troy^> BluesKaj: it is
[15:54] <Troy^> BluesKaj: i'll show you what i have as options
[15:54] <mhahe> aidanjt, when u say software raid install am i looking at something complicated or is it very close to standard install
[15:54] <mhahe> ?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> tro the you shouldn't need to set any dns settings in your networking files at all
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Troy^,^
[15:55] <Troy^> BluesKaj: then i don't know why it isn't working
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Troy^, I assume you aren't using network manager
[15:56] <Troy^> BluesKaj: nope, here http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9527/advancedsetuplanipanddh.png
[15:56] <aidanjt> mhahe: naw, it's close to a standard install, the only difference is the on disk format is better supported by the Linux kernel.. performs way better than the device-mapper implementation too, and grub wont be confused by it
[15:56] <mhahe> aidanjt, also if i reinstalled windows after removing raid config from bios would i be able to dual boot win/ubuntu?
[15:56] <aidanjt> mhahe: you could put one os on each ssd no problem
[15:56] <mhahe> then ill just do that :)
[15:57] <hp__> hello all....xoxox
[15:57] <aidanjt> it'll still be fast as hell :)
[15:57] <mhahe> aidanjt, thanks loads man appreciate all the help :)
[15:57] <aidanjt> ssds ftw
[15:57] <aidanjt> no problem
[15:57] <pepperjack> diligentdino: there may be privacy concerns with google *shrug* but I trust then to update more often and provide accurate ips on my lookup requests
[15:58] <mhahe> aidanjt, ill let you know how it went hopefully ill be done soon if i dont face any more issues lol
[15:58] <aidanjt> mhahe: well you know where to get help if you get stuck :)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Troy^, have you tried using "statically assigned" settings there?
[15:59] <Troy^> I'll set dns server 2 to statically assigned. but what dns server ip do i put there?
[15:59] <Troy^> BluesKaj: google's 8.8.8.8
[15:59] <diligentdino> pepperjack, I'm sure ISP don't supply their own dns hosts. I can almost assume google is involved in some way with providing dns to big boys and their subs.
[16:00] <diligentdino> pepperjack, perhaps a deeper discussion, but that topic doesn't keep the channel on track.
[16:00] <kingd> .......
[16:01] <Gamera> My old man looks at a lot of adult content is there a way to remove the Recent files section from the ubuntu one unity bar?
[16:01] <TechnodicT_> Compiz crashing frequently any sugestion?
[16:02] <pillarsdotnet> Packaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Troy^, yes , the 8.8.4.4 for the secondary
[16:02] <BluesKaj> the=then
[16:02] <mhahe> aidanjt, in bios and only option related to raid is 'show' or 'hide' (raid configuration)
[16:03] <mhahe> aidanjt, dont see a disable anywhere. also its set to hide by default.. dont know if that matter
[16:03] <Troy^> BluesKaj: 8.8.4.4 which one is that? i though google was 8.8.8.8 also do i need to specify anything for dns servers anywhere in my /etc/network/interfaces the device is set as static
[16:03] <aidanjt> mhahe: set it to show, and when the machine boots and gives you a RAID option settings delete the array and hide the config menu again
[16:03] <Alpha-Omega> gamer1990: lol, find the file that stores it and run a script ever 5-10 minutes or so that redirects /dev/null to the file :P
[16:03] <aidanjt> it would have the same effect
[16:04] <Alpha-Omega> oops
[16:04] <kingd> espa?ol?
[16:05] <Alpha-Omega> the guy quit
[16:05] <Alpha-Omega> and i quoted someone else by mistake
[16:05] <Alpha-Omega> 0_0
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Troy^, tro sorry in the dns servers 1 and 2 in you router page then  as nameserver 8.8.8.8 and below that nameserver 8.8.4.4 in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:07] <Troy^> ok now will every comp on my network have to have dns nameserver specifically set or can they be left as auto? i don't want to have to deal with doing that
[16:07] <Troy^> or will they auto pull the dns from the router as the router is going out dns resolving from google
[16:08] <Stimrol_> I am trying to play flash on ubuntu 12.04, tried installing gnash, adobe and nothing works, 8 years old computer
[16:09] <xangua> Stimrol_: using various plugin for flash at the same time just make no one works; decide if you want adobe or gnash
[16:09] <Troy^> I wish i understood DNS a little better for instance how the router handles DNS servers and then how the machines and router deal with DNS servers together
[16:10] <TechnodicT_> Strimol go to synaptic
[16:10] <Stimrol_> xangua: I tried with adobe only in the begging, always chrash in the browser, both firefox and opera, I am guessing hardware issue or something
[16:10] <krababbel> Troy^: usually your isp's router gives you dns info, and the router has a dns cache, which the hosts on your lan can use
[16:11] <keri> if u up grade will it delate your doc, pictures, music and books?
[16:11] <xangua> Stimrol_: you could try to disable fkash hadrware acceleration -right clic in a fullscreen flash object, preferences-
[16:11] <dr_willis> i use the various flashreplacer extendsions and flash downloader tools to let me grab the flash vids :)
[16:12] <Stimrol_> xangua: I dont even get the possibility to right click, but I turned that off in firefox preferences
[16:12] <ShawnR> i've got dnsmasq setup on my server to help with some locally hosted stuff, and then it forwards out to public name servers afterwards, dig shows me it gets passed on to the nameservers, but it only works half the time (dnsmasq takes forver to tell me it found nothing via dig).  Sometimes running dig on desktop to a public dns will then somehow kickstart dnsmasq to work (not sure about that).  Anywhere
[16:12] <ShawnR> besides daemon.log to check for reasons why this is happening?
[16:12] <krababbel> Stimrol_: I found pure software flash to be more stable
[16:12] <krababbel> Stimrol_: it is the default, right click and use video info
[16:12] <mhahe> aidanjt, alrighty i just deleted it. and i think i should be able to get through the rest. but just one quick question before i get started. because i deleted the raid volume does that mean I am forced to have each OS on separate partitions and cannot use gparted to logically partition the overall disk space. cause i would prefer to have windows the larger of the two since id like to install some games and have all my music on that partition (mount it when im
[16:12] <mhahe>  on ubuntu and then i can play my tunes) instead of doing what I usually do, simply have two copies of my media files for ubuntu and windows
[16:12] <xangua> Stimrol_: you turned off firefox hardare acceleration, no flash hardware acceleration
[16:13] <aidanjt> mhahe: I'm afraid not, raid0 was striping the volume between both SSDs, so without RAID0 you're operating with both disks directly
[16:13] <Stimrol_> xangua: yes turned of firefox hardware acceleration, tried with and without
[16:14] <xangua> ....
[16:14] <aidanjt> mhahe: that's why I suggested virtualisation, but if you need to give linux hardware access then this is the only way to do it
[16:14] <xangua> Stimrol_: you turned off firefox hadrware acceleration, you did not turned off flash hadrware acceletration
[16:14] <Stimrol_> like youtube only shows white where the player should be, and nothing if i right click
[16:15] <mhahe> aidanjt, oh okay, what about ubuntu its self from what you said im guessing i will only be able to use one HD?
[16:15] <Stimrol_> I can't access flash to rightclick on it and turn of hardware acceleration
[16:15] <mhahe> aidanjt, or will i be able to install using combined disk space
[16:16] <aidanjt> mhahe: yeah, I mean ubuntu has great software raid, but if windows needs a large amount of space then it needs to eat up a whole ssd so can't really do raid then
[16:16] <alfio> adele
[16:16] <numarul7> why ubuntu does not support hyperthreading and keeps my CPU at 1.75 ghz instead using speed step and run at 900-1.7 range
[16:17] <mhahe> aidanjt, okay got it. thanks again. best help ive gotten on irc ever. cheers
[16:17] <aidanjt> mhahe: no problem
[16:17] <h00k> numarul7: Linux kernel does support hyperthreading
[16:17] <numarul7> it keeps my laptop at 1.7 maximum freq and cooler runing up
[16:17] <alfio> harry potter
[16:18] <numarul7> in windows works flawless
[16:18] <h00k> !ot | alfio
[16:18] <troy__> alright well i seem to not have DNS problems anymore using google
[16:18] <TechnodicT_> Any ppl usr archlinux?
[16:18] <pepperjack> TechnodicT_: yep. there is an #archlinux channel here as well
[16:19] <pepperjack> TechnodicT_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic or #archlinux  if you'd like to discuss it
[16:19] <keri> if i upgrade to the newest unubunt will it delate all my doc, pictures, music and books?
[16:19] <mhahe> aidanjt,  im guessing need to use alternate installer, no option to use both HDs on the normal installer
[16:19] <numarul7> keri if you update with an cd iso ies
[16:19] <numarul7> yes..
[16:20] <numarul7> if you update ..better backup
[16:20] <aidanjt> mhahe: you only need the alt installer for raid and lvm, the desktop installer should work with multiple hard drives ok
[16:20] <h00k> numarul7: I'd start by making sure it is doing your power regulation, what harrdware do you have?
[16:20] <Troy^> thank you BluesKaj
[16:20] <h00k> keri: no, but it's always a good dea to have a backup
[16:20] <h00k> *idea
[16:21] <keri> ok i will send it all to dropbox,
[16:21] <Troy^> BluesKaj: i just set dns server number 2 to 8.8.8.8 and set it in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head works fine now did couple of reboots with the box and DNS resolving seems to be working perfectly
[16:21] <h00k> keri: you can use Ubuntu One as well, but whatever works, as long as you have a backup
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Troy^, glad to hear it :)
[16:22] <h00k> keri: what version are you upgrading from/to?
[16:22] <Troy^> BluesKaj: although i have another problem i have forwarded my port for ssh and its not the default port but i can't seem to still connect using my external ip address.
[16:22] <keri> 12. somthing it is the one jsut came out
[16:23] <h00k> keri: 12.04, what version are you running? If you're coming from 10.04, the last Long Term Release, it should be quite smooth
[16:23] <mhahe> aidanjt, think my laptop isnt supported very well. at the installation process I have two options erase entire disk and install (can only choose one) or something else (again can only choose one disk)
[16:24] <mhahe> :S
[16:24] <keri> yes i am on 10.04 just dont want all my stuff gone
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Troy^, port 22 for ssh ?
[16:25] <aidanjt> mhahe: yeah that's the intent isn't it?  install windows on one drive and ubuntu on another?
[16:25] <mhahe> aidanjt, i know its recommended to install ubuntu after installing windows, but if im doing it this way with them being on completely different harddisks would grub have issues finding windows and i wont be able to boot windows ?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Troy^, BBL... stuff to do for a few mins
[16:25] <mhahe> aidanjt, yea i just wanted to figure it out for future reference, since this has been such a pain thought knowing how to install on the entire disk would come in handy in the future.
[16:26] <aidanjt> mhahe: it sould be ok, the grub package reads all the disks and automatically lists what operating systems are on the system
[16:26] <ShawnR> is there a channel i can get better help for dnsmasq?
[16:26] <Troy^> BluesKaj: using a diff port ok see yea
[16:26] <mhahe> aidanjt, sweet
[16:28] <mhahe> aidanjt, installing now. fingers crossed lol
[16:28] <aidanjt> mhahe: good luck
[16:31] <petrovv_> what is the situation with TCP Wrappers in 12.04 - are they still used? (I would like to use the DenyHosts script to protect my family webserver, and wonder if it is efficient at all)
[16:33] <mhahe> aidanjt, fml same error 'executing grub-install /dev/sdb failed' - ' this is a fatal error'
[16:34] <oal> How can I enable playback of all the sound a microphone hears, immediately? Not only when recording in Audacity or similar
[16:34] <aidanjt> petrovv_: the kernel's net filtering is more efficient than tcp wrappers
[16:34] <aidanjt> mhahe: wow, annoying :\
[16:34] <muppis> Is there way to cache whole dvd to swap or somewhere?
[16:35] <petrovv_> aidanjt, i.e - iptables? but is there anything as low-maintenance as DenyHosts?
[16:35] <mhahe> aidanjt, any idea how i might be able to fix this?
[16:35] <aidanjt> mhahe: if you mount the ubuntu filesystem and manually reinstall grub-pc what happens?
[16:35] <pepperjack> muppis: you mean like write the whole dvd to a file so you can eject it?
[16:35] <pepperjack> muppis: or do you mean like to toram option for the livedvd?
[16:35] <aidanjt> petrovv_: yeah iptables is the main netfilters interface, but there are other simplier ones like ufw
[16:35] <mhahe> aidanjt, as in complete installation without installing grub and then mounting ?
[16:35] <muppis> pepperjack, almost. Cache can be cleared if ejected.
[16:36] <aidanjt> mhahe: yeah, the install should be done, the only thing that's apparently not working is grub-install
[16:36] <aidanjt> mhahe: just chroot it
[16:37] <mhahe> aidanjt, im not even sure how ill mount it
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: it didnt work, stiil same square icon
[16:37] <muppis> pepperjack, can be to hdd. I think video dvd doesn't fit in memory at once.
[16:38] <aidanjt> mhahe: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt; chroot /mnt /bin/bash; dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[16:38] <aidanjt> that should work, I think
[16:40] <mhahe> aidanjt, oh from live cd?
[16:40] <aidanjt> mhahe: or if you're using the desktop installer disk you can open the gnome terminal, and sudo su - to gain root and just paste the above in that way
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: this is what i get if i take screenshot: http://i46.tinypic.com/spb51c.jpg
[16:42] <mhahe> aidanjt, dont know if this is worth mentioning. but im pretty sure i saw the disks as sdc1 sdc2... only option available to me to use for grub installation was sda sda1 sdb
[16:42] <aidanjt> muppis: you can create a tmpfs and write the DVD to a file inside your virtual filesystem, that'll keep it cached so you can eject the disk and it'll be destroyed when you unmount the tmpfs
[16:43] <aidanjt> mhahe: yeah, /dev/sda will likely be the disk will install the bootloader code to, which will be enough for it to load grub from sdb
[16:44] <petrovv_> what is the name of local answering bot - ubottu?
[16:44] <mhahe> aidanjt, but the only disks i saw for installing ubuntu were sdc1 sdc2
[16:44] <mhahe> aidanjt, is that not weird?
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !bot | petrovv_
[16:44] <aidanjt> mhahe: indeed, very
[16:47] <petrovv_> ubottu knows nothing about sshguard vs fail2ban, any suggestions here on which to try first?
[16:47] <dr_willis> petrovv_:  fail2ban seems to work well.. neer heard of sshguard
[16:47] <petrovv_> ubottu, I don't think
[16:47] <dr_willis> !info fail2ban
[16:47] <aidanjt> mhahe: would sdc be the usb stick you're using?
[16:47] <dr_willis> !info sshguard
[16:47] <petrovv_> ah ok, "!info"
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: after the square mouse at login screen, i restarted lightdm again, but it didnt go away after
[16:49] <petrovv_> dr_willis, tnx
[16:49] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  soubnds like the drivers or card are not getting initilized properly to me.
[16:49] <Ion330HT> Hi
[16:49] <mhahe> only thing connect through usb is the media box (external disc/dvd reader/burner and gfx card) + im sure sdcx were the HDs cause they were both 128gb.. which is the size i ordered
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: someone sugested me blacklist fxglr to see what happens
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: and adding nomodeset to grub, disables compiz on me
[16:51] <Ion330HT> I am having some printer issues where Windows Vista won't access/use the ubuntu printer that I have shared. It is visible in Vista but when I try to access it, it complains on faulty drivers and ask me to install the right ones. I do that but then vista complains that it cannot connect to printer
[16:51] <Ion330HT> Any clues on how to fix this?
[16:52] <diligentdino> Ion330HT, sounds like a windows problem
[16:52] <rsser> how get ubuntu version for notebook?
[16:52] <diligentdino> rsser, uname -a
[16:52] <rsser> no no, diligentdino
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> rsser: its the same version now as desktop, remix is dead
[16:52] <rsser> I meant get cd/iso
[16:52] <rsser> okay, thank you
[16:53] <Ion330HT> diligent, could be. I have tried every ubuntu fix & windows problem solving guide I can find and problem still persists. I can see the printer just fine on the network and all I just can't use it. (it also works fine on ubuntu itself)
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> rsser: i got netbook on precise 64 bit runs very smooth
[16:53] <rsser> The requested URL /12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent was not found on this server.
[16:53] <rsser> Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at releases.ubuntu.com Port 80
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> rsser: try the http mirror?
[16:54] <rsser> lotuspsychje, but and softwares 32 bits run on 64bits system normally?
[16:54] <Sidewinder1> Ion330HT, If no one here knows the answer, perhaps there might be some folks in #windows or ##windows that might be able to help you.
[16:54] <rsser> Not Found
[16:54] <rsser> The requested URL /12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> rsser: you have to install the correct architecture for your pc
[16:54] <rsser> is it down too
[16:54] <aidanjt> rsser: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[16:54] <rsser> thank you
[16:54] <rsser> lotuspsychje, it's 32bits the processor, lotuspsychje
[16:55] <an0n> 12.04.1
[16:55] <Ion330HT> I'll see if the windows guys knows
[16:55] <Sidewinder1> Ion330HT, I'm not trying to get rid of you; it's just that,.. Well you know what I mean..
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> rsser: install 32bit then
[16:55] <rsser> okay
[16:55] <Sidewinder1> Ion330HT, There's also the ubuntuforums.org, as well.
[16:55] <rsser> thank you, lotuspsychje
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> np
[16:56] <an0n> Ubuntu 12.04.1 is very good ..
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> !cups | Ion330HT
[16:56] <matthieu_> Hi folks
[16:56] <matthieu_> I encounter a strange issue with my web (wireless) connection on my laptop (Ubuntu 11.10) I'm able to have 540kbps (down) on all computers in my house (including laptop at the same distance from the box) except me. When i do a speed connection test, i can have this optimal speed immediately after booting. As i surf on the net, watching videos, download things, etc... it becomes slower progressively until 100-110 kbps and the
[16:56] <matthieu_>  speed remain the same until i reboot.
[16:56] <FloodBot1> matthieu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> an0n: i agree, did it also install very fast on you?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> matthieu_:whats your security wifi wep or wpa?
[16:57] <matthieu_> wpa
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> matthieu_:on what wifi card model?
[16:58] <matthieu_> i post here because the other computer have other system and they have a normal speed
[16:58] <an0n> lotuspsychje: Prior did not install, froze on the loading screen but is doing well in 12.04.1 to install.
[16:58] <matthieu_> How can i see my wifi card model ?
[16:59] <aidanjt> matthieu_: lspci or lsusb as root
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> matthieu_:there is a known bug on 11.04 on specific cards with WPA security and speed, try to change to WEP to test if speed remains
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> matthieu_:if thats the case its recommended to install precise 12.04.1
[17:00] <matthieu_> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[17:00] <matthieu_> ok
[17:00] <an0n> lotuspsychje: Use wpa2 aes..
[17:00] <matthieu_> I'll test
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> an0n: did you read...its a test...
[17:01] <saori> hello
[17:02] <saori> Is there a way to have grub boot into an alternate OS by default, but only once?
[17:02] <rqirc> /whois
[17:02] <an0n> lotuspsychje: I tested cheat codes at the time and not getting hit, but in 12.04.1 can run live cd ..
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> saori, Why?
[17:03] <rqirc> hello
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> saori:you can manually boot another Os at pc startup by pressing shift
[17:05] <devish> and also other kernel verions
[17:05] <saori> wilee-nilee: I have a machine running ubuntu server as a storage server, it does not have a mouse or keyboard. It boots into Ubuntu server by default and becomes accessible via smb or ssh. On a separate hard drive on that same PC, I have Windows 7 installed as a backup or for displaying video on a 40" TV. That Windows install has synergy installed (allowing me to use the mouse and keyboard from a different computer to control it once boote
[17:05] <saori> d). Since there is no keyboard, I cannot interact with the PC at boot time in any way.
[17:06] <saori> lotuspsychje: as per my last, I cannot interact with grub because there is no physically connected keyboard. Any other ideas?
[17:06] <devish> saori: off topic, you are using this nick (name)...inspireed from sasori?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> saori, Ah that makes sense why you would want it this way, but you need some sort of control to do this eh.
[17:07] <rhizmoe> saori: typically the only way to do that is with a lightsout type card or maybe a remote serial console (depending on bios)
[17:07] <dr_willis> saori:  theres a way to change the default on the fly. but if you set it to boot windows.. it will stay on windows untill you change it back to linux somehow..
[17:07] <saori> devish: lol actually I usually come in here as "hilo" but I'm on my girlfriend's PC and her name is "Saori"
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> saori: so you want more a specific reboot trigger into another Os
[17:07] <dr_willis> saori:   the grub docs mention the 'saved' option.
[17:07] <dr_willis> I have a remote control that is actually a mini keyboard that arrow keys work with grub. ;)
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> a script of some sort would probably do it as a manual boot
[17:08] <saori> Basically I want grub to change the default back to linux any time it is booted with a default of Windows.
[17:08] <saori> I can easily make the change with a script or something once I'm back in Linux
[17:09] <mhahe> aidanjt, it seems the fs is mounted under sda1... but cat /etc/fstab doesnt show it
[17:09] <mhahe> aidanjt, working off live cd
[17:09] <saori> And I am wondering if it is possible since my Windows can't see the grub configs
[17:09] <saori> Or can grub be configured to do this on it's own somehow
[17:09] <szal> w/ grub-legacy you can tell it what boot entry to boot at reboot time.. afaik, grub2 cannot do that (yet)
[17:10] <|Anthony|> is there an online package like for kubuntu similar to packages.ubuntu.com
[17:10] <|Anthony|> or is it the same thing
[17:10] <aidanjt> mhahe: Ubuntu uses uuid's of the partition these days rather than the device nodes, but you can change the uuid entries for /dev/sdX if you like
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> |Anthony|, ubuntu uses the ubuntu repos.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> kubuntu*
[17:11] <|Anthony|> ah
[17:11] <|Anthony|> very well
[17:13] <saori> Alright thanks for the info
[17:13] <varone> perdon hay algun server español?
[17:13] <Neptu> hej have a problem with ubuntu cron, is not working with default install... its needed to reconfigure something?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> !info bootnext
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> that doesnt look very good
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> saori: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/how-to-reboot-in-windows-from-ubuntu.html
[17:18] <szal> lotuspsychje: you have timing.. right in the middle of a netsplit :P
[17:18] <diamondi> does installing idm using wine work fine?
[17:19] <diamondi> does installing idm using wine work fine?
[17:19] <szal> diamondi: WineHQ AppDB should be able to tell you.. and don't repeat yourself w/o due cause please :)
[17:19] <diamondi> oh sorry
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> szal: been admin on other nets in the past does it show :p
[17:20] <szal> !wine | diamondi, just to tell you where to look
[17:20] <szal> ah..
[17:21] <szal> !appdb
[17:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: did you see that pic i paste from desktop?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:wb :p
[17:25] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  nope.. eating pizza. ;)
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://i46.tinypic.com/spb51c.jpg strange screen of the square mouse
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> anyway i gotta run
[17:26] <dr_willis> from that screenshot.. you got deeper issues then a mouse problem.
[17:27] <igor__> так
[17:27] <igor__> всем ку
[17:28] <dr_willis> !ru
[17:28] <IdleOne> !ru | igor__
[17:28] <igor__> !ru
[17:28] <igor__> hi
[17:29] <igor__> i have acer one netbook, xubuntu, not working camera (
[17:29] <dr_willis> how have you tested the camera?
[17:30] <igor__> in debian working, in xubuntu not working, but in debian not working wi if ) this camera)
[17:30] <igor__> testing in skype
[17:30] <dr_willis> How are you using the camera? what app are you testing it with.....
[17:30] <igor__> s
[17:30] <dr_willis> Try it in Cheese.
[17:31] <igor__> skype
[17:31] <igor__> )
[17:31] <dr_willis> --->  Try it in Cheese.  if it works in cheese then its a SKYPE issue
[17:31] <mhahe> when installing ubuntu do i use primary or logical for partition type? im using the entire disk and setting up the following partitions : swap, /, /home, /boot
[17:31] <igor__> i not have command in terminal
[17:32] <dr_willis> !info cheese
[17:32] <igor__> ok )
[17:32] <dr_willis> Install cheese, try it in Cheese....
[17:33] <dr_willis> mhahe:  i tend to use all primaries for simple setups
[17:33] <dr_willis> mhahe:  a /boot/ is not normally needed tehse days. but can come in handy
[17:33] <mhahe> whats the difference?
[17:33] <robotwizard> hello. I'm trying to decide between intalling the desktop or server edition. Server seems to be database friendly and I would like to learn database but havn't worked with linux in a few years.
[17:33] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[17:34] <zhouqz> hello
[17:34] <dr_willis> robotwizard:  you can install any services you need on the desktop edition.
[17:34] <mhahe> dr_willis, ive been trying to install ubuntu but grub 2 keeps failing. been at it for more than 10 hours now.
[17:34]  * dr_willis is not sure what 'database friendly' really means.
[17:34] <Troy^> robotwizard: they are pretty much universal but if this comp is mainly for desktop that i would choose desktop version if not server
[17:34] <dr_willis> mhahe:  boot live cd, try that boot-repair tool mentioned in the fixgrub url/wiki pages peryhaps.
[17:34] <zhouqz> whiskey
[17:34] <Troy^> robotwizard: they can both pretty much install both of each others packages
[17:34]  * rox is ATK
[17:35] <rox> robotwizard: the difference is only in default install
[17:35] <robotwizard> so kernal is the same... desktop just has added services?
[17:36] <dr_willis> robotwizard:  you want a GUI? or just console/text interface?
[17:36] <rox> robotwizard: you can pretty much turn a server install into desktop and vice versa merely by using the package manager to install and uninstall various packages
[17:36] <robotwizard> both
[17:36] <Troy^> lol
[17:36] <dr_willis> robotwizard:  then install the desktop edition.....
[17:36] <rox> robotwizard: then install desktop
[17:37] <gordonjcp> robotwizard: are you going to use this as a standalone server, or a desktop machine?
[17:37] <gordonjcp> robotwizard: I'd pick which distro to install based on what it is physically going to be used for
[17:37] <Neptu> have a problem with crontab
[17:38] <johnnyonflame> is there any way to pipe my microphone sound to my output?
[17:38] <gordonjcp> robotwizard: you can easily install desktop on your, uhm, desktop - and then add the server packages you want
[17:38] <Neptu> is not working with root and all seems to be ok...
[17:38] <gordonjcp> johnnyonflame: turn up the volume in the playback page of alsamixer
[17:38] <Neptu> grandchild #28367 failed with exit status 127
[17:38] <robotwizard> wanted to use as a desktop but also use to learn server, so I guess both. Maybe I should set up additional pertition and have 2 separate installs?
[17:38] <johnnyonflame> gordonjcp, thanks
[17:38] <dr_willis> theres no need for 2 installs...
[17:38] <dr_willis> the desktop has the full cli tools and can run any services you want to play with
[17:39] <robotwizard> ok thanks.
[17:39] <dr_willis> same as in linux a few years ago... ;)
[17:39] <gordonjcp> johnnyonflame: bear in mind that many voip apps will provide a bit of "sidetone" from your microphone to your earpiece
[17:39] <johnnyonflame> I dont have that here
[17:39] <gordonjcp> johnnyonflame: What exactly are you trying to do?
[17:40] <johnnyonflame> I have my notebook connected to my pc (p2-p2 male cable)
[17:40] <johnnyonflame> so my notebook's output goes straight into my pc input
[17:40] <dr_willis> whats a P2-P2 cable?
[17:40] <johnnyonflame> 3,5mm jack
[17:40] <gordonjcp> robotwizard: you ever notice how if you go to buy a flatbed truck or a box van, they look kind of the same apart from the bit bolted on at the back?
[17:40] <johnnyonflame> a.k.a. the usual connector
[17:40] <dr_willis> johnnyonflame:  you mean a  Network cable?
[17:41] <johnnyonflame> uh no
[17:41] <johnnyonflame> audio cable
[17:41] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: no, an audio cable with a 3.5mm jack plug
[17:44] <pillarsdotnet> Packaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?
[17:45] <Zaehlas> Hi!  Running into issues with the new isc dhcp server..  basically, I can't located where the config files are supposed to be, and every guide / man page I can find point to the OLD dhcp3 file locations, which are not working for me.
[17:46] <liam> hello? I'm brand new to IRC
[17:46] <szal> liam: and?
[17:47] <liam> just saying hi and trying to figure out how to use my mic input in ubuntu
[17:47] <liam> im trying to route my mixing station into the mic input but ubuntu isn't recognizing the device
[17:48] <unless> I am looking for a application like x-lite for Ubuntu. Does anybody knows where I could find it please?
[17:48] <szal> what is x-lite?
[17:48] <unless> It is used for Voip telephony
[17:48] <liam> @unless http://www.counterpath.com/x-lite-download.html
[17:49] <unless> liam, but I cannot find a Linux version there.
[17:49] <liam> what distro?
[17:49] <dr_willis> the distrowatch site had info on a site with like 100+ 'appliance' virtual images...
[17:49] <szal> !sip | unless
[17:49] <szal> liam: what do you think? ;)
[17:49] <dr_willis> no idea what xlite is. :) but there were some sip appliances i recall
[17:50] <unless> szal, cool, thank you.
[17:50] <liam> szal: i meant what number but HA.HA. :P
[17:50] <dr_willis> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/  has some neat toys. ;P
[17:56] <acer> hi all ! I get when trying to get my emails with thunderbird connection refused
[17:56] <liam> has anyone had any luck configuring an ubuntu webcam software with an external mic input? tryna record music videos and this is quite vexing
[17:57] <WarOfTheNerd> liam, if it uses PulseAudio that's easy
[17:57] <WarOfTheNerd> You can literally configure that on sound settings if it's using PulseAudio and choose the external mic
[17:57] <luftikuss> What considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."
[18:00] <luftikuss> acer: May be you typed a wrong e-mail address in Thunderbird's e-mail account.
[18:03] <diverdude> How can i measure the response time of an http request?
[18:03] <aidanjt> diverdude: time wget url
[18:04] <luftikuss> acer: You may attach to  the moznet IRCnetwork and join the #thunderbird channel to get more help.
[18:04] <tim167> how do I reset alsa? _without_ rebooting the computer? (tried "alsa force-reload", no success, still "aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy") thanks
[18:04] <gordonjcp> tim167: find out what's holding the device open
[18:04] <gordonjcp> tim167: probably pulseaudio
[18:05] <tim167> gordonjcp: how do i find out?
[18:05] <tim167> gordonjcp: i removed pulsaudio
[18:05] <gordonjcp> tim167: check it hasn't come back
[18:05] <gordonjcp> tim167: What exactly are you trying to do?
[18:05] <tim167> gordonjcp: i'm trying to play a video with sound in firefox
[18:05] <aidanjt> tim167: it might still be running in memory, use pulseaudio -k to stop it
[18:06] <tim167> gordonjcp: The program 'pulseaudio' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing
[18:06] <dr_willis> removeing pulse audio to try to play a video in firefox.. seems.. extreme
[18:06] <Troy^> is there a way to perform an internet speed test from command line? also isn't this how you add a repo it is saying unkown command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jcfp/ppa
[18:06] <gordonjcp> yeah, I only usually need to get that brutal with pulseaudio when it gets in the way of using jack
[18:07] <luftikuss> Troy^: Try ntop.
[18:07] <aidanjt> Troy^: wget a large file from a fast mirror and watch the bandwidth readout?
[18:07] <tim167> dr_willis: i had had it with pulseaudio, always giving me trouble, that's why i finally just removed it, but now with alsa still troublesome to have the soundcard released
[18:07] <zorbama> Hello, I need some help with the Wacom driver, does anyone know anything about that?
[18:07] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, route PulseAudio through dmix
[18:08] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, then you get a little latency but nothing will lock the card exclusive since dmix will always have a hold on it because of persistent PulseAudio using dmix
[18:08] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: hmm dmix, what's that? (did you read that I removed pulseaudio alltogether?)
[18:08] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, dmix is the software mixer that ALSA uses
[18:08] <aidanjt> tim167: reinstall pulse, issue the pulseaudio -k command, restart alsa, check pulse is off, uninstall pulse
[18:09] <WarOfTheNerd> dmix lets you run more than one app at once without any of them having exclusive control
[18:09] <gordonjcp> tim167: I don't recommend trying to remove pulseaudio
[18:09] <tim167> gordonjcp: I already did :)
[18:09] <gordonjcp> tim167: never mind that I *do* remove pulseaudio, the fact that *I* do it ought to be enough to warn you off!
[18:09] <gordonjcp> tim167: put it back, then
[18:09] <WarOfTheNerd> also only morons would ditch PA these days when dmix can let you run PA and keep other software able to use ALSA
[18:10] <dr_willis> normally i see people remove pulse.. then they come back in asking how to get it vback. :)
[18:10] <tim167> gordonjcp: ok I can try that
[18:10] <gordonjcp> tim167: it's a bad idea to remove it, unless you are intimately acquainted with the deep scary guts of ALSA
[18:10] <aidanjt> gordonjcp: or have a decent soundcard
[18:10] <gordonjcp> like I say, I *do* remove pulseaudio
[18:10] <gordonjcp> but then again I also run custom sound card drivers written from scratch
[18:10] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: I'll try to reinstall PA, does dmix come packed with it ?
[18:11] <n1ckn4me09876543> i have ubuntu installed,   but now i want to make another partition,  do i have to defrag the hdd or is it ok to just go ahead and create anotehr partition with gparted?
[18:11] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, no it doesn't also you'll need to Google for info on how to configure it to use dmix
[18:11] <Troy^> luftikuss: thanks ntop is pretty intense lol
[18:11] <dr_willis> n1ckn4me09876543:  you are resizeing a windows ntfs partition?
[18:11] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, PulseAudio is a decent solution on its own anyway, only really old apps fail with it these days
[18:11] <luftikuss> Troy^: yw
[18:11]  * WarOfTheNerd hasn't had issues with native Linux apps using PA in over 2 years 
[18:12] <WarOfTheNerd> with exception to pSX and Wine because of old versions of 32-bit libs
[18:12] <histo> n1ckn4me09876543: unless you are resizing a ntfs or fat partition you don't need to defrag prior to resizing.
[18:12] <gordonjcp> even stuff that uses OSS works just fine with alsa-oss
[18:12] <zorbama> Hello, how do I define my Wacom tablet's buttons through the terminal? It seems that the GUI doesn't have any effect on the settings
[18:12] <WarOfTheNerd> but pSX is ancient and unmaintained and Wine is for non-native apps
[18:12] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: in fact I had the exact same problem with pulseaudio installed, : use program A with sound, close that program, now program B can not access soundcard, only solution is to _reboot_ (so Windoze-ian)
[18:13] <vinton> I've had issues with pulseaudio on every distro
[18:13] <michelfp> I need help: When using "make -f Makefile", I get the error "seeborg.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set
[18:13] <michelfp> , error code 1"
[18:13] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, that is likely down to letting said app take exclusive control of the sound card
[18:13] <n1ckn4me09876543> dr_willis:   no  this is my set up,    465 Gb      405Gb ubuntu  60Gb windows8,    i would liek to make partition between them, so i will be resizing/cutting     the 405 Gb ext filesystem
[18:14] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, if you leave PulseAudio alone with default config it will block exclusive access while it runs, preventing that from happening
[18:14] <vinton> exit
[18:14] <vinton> damn
[18:14] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: well most probably yes, so my question is, how to reclaim the soundcard for another program without rebooting?
[18:14] <gordonjcp> michelfp: What exactly are you trying to do?
[18:14] <aidanjt> michelfp: what are you trying to compile?
[18:14] <n1ckn4me09876543> dr_willis, histo:  basicially i wodnt even touch the 60Gb  ntfs win8 partition just the 405Gb  ext ubuntu
[18:14] <michelfp> Compiling Seeborg
[18:14] <michelfp> Seeborg
[18:15] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: apparently that was not true in my case, I had this problem right from the start (installing ubuntu 12.04 that is)
[18:15] <histo> n1ckn4me09876543: you can resize it from a livecd without an issue
[18:15] <gordonjcp> michelfp: sounds like it may not be configured correctly
[18:15] <n1ckn4me09876543> histo, ty
[18:15] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, with which application?
[18:15] <histo> n1ckn4me09876543: as always though when messing with partitions make sure your data is backed up juts incase
[18:16] <xpistos> Hello all. Is there a channel for Landscape?
[18:16] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, normally killing the app that has exclusive access frees up access
[18:16] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: any combination of 2 applications using sound, whichever is opend first gets the sound, all others that follow do not...
[18:16] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, that's because you removed PulseAudio
[18:16] <lauratika> hi im on a windows/ubuntu dual boot machine windows detect wired connection no problem. but ubuntu wont. any ideas how to fix this?
[18:16] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, PulseAudio takes exclusive access, preventing any other access which doesn't go through PulseAudio, preventing that condition
[18:16] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: yes, I try "sudo alsa force-reload", I try "killall firefox" ...Etc
[18:17] <WarOfTheNerd> if it's flash then pkill -9 plugin-container
[18:17] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: again, I had the exact same situation with pulseaudio installed
[18:17] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: ok, I'll try , see what that does
[18:18] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, either configure dmix manually with ALSA and keep a sound server loaded and accessing dmix or leave PulseAudio as shipped and let it hold exclusive access
[18:18] <aidanjt> michelfp: it looks like you'll have to edit the Makefile by hand and change the CFCPU variable to "native"
[18:18] <lauratika> seems a configuration error to me.
[18:18] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, those are the only two ways to keep apps from taking access
[18:19] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: honestly I would NOT have removed Pulseaudio if I hadn't had this problem in the first place
 michelfp: it looks like you'll have to edit the Makefile by hand and change the CFCPU variable to "native"
[18:19] <michelfp> Did that
[18:19] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, what app causes this issue by the way?  and I'm on about before you removed PA
[18:19] <michelfp> g++: native: No such file or directory
[18:19] <michelfp> Nvm
[18:19] <michelfp> worked but got errors.
[18:19] <aidanjt> :/
[18:20] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: as I said, any program that runs first and uses sound hijacks the soundcard
[18:20] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, that's because of removing PA, that's the way ALSA works if you don't configure dmix or use a sound server like PA
[18:20] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: whether it be firefox, vlc, kdenlive, puredata...or whatever
[18:21] <WarOfTheNerd> a subset of apps will fight PA for access or try to kill it, if you encounter one of those, file a bug against it
[18:21] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: I have a hard time believing that installing pulseaudio will fix this because I removed it because I had this exact problem with it installed
[18:22] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, if you have it installed with the ALSA plugin that redirects everything to it, as is default, then nothing can use vanilla ALSA and take exclusive access
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, Here are two commands oone or the other should indentify the card post it.  lspci | grep -i wireless
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> lspci | grep Broadcom
[18:22] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: but there must be a way to forcibly stop any application using the soundcard, and free it up, no ?
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> one*
[18:23] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, yes, kill the application which is using it
[18:23] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: if only I knew which application is using it right now...
[18:23] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: do you know of a way to find that out?
[18:23] <dr_willis> kill them all. ;)
[18:24] <michelfp> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=djxuym2c
[18:24] <michelfp> getting this error
[18:24] <tim167> dr_willis: well, yes, that works for sure, aka 'reboot', but that's what I'm trying to avoid
[18:24] <dr_willis> lsof  perhaps.
[18:25] <dr_willis>  lsof | grep audio
[18:25] <lauratika> wilee-nilee but i have to disconect from here
[18:25] <lauratika> isnt weird windows detetc the network and ubuntu wonty?
[18:25] <Whitestar> Hey
[18:26] <tim167> dr_willis: ok thanks, looking, not sure what to make of it...
[18:26] <tim167> hd-audio0   951       root  cwd   unknown                               /proc/951/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)
[18:26] <tim167> hd-audio0   951       root  rtd   unknown                               /proc/951/root (readlink: Permission denied)
[18:26] <tim167> hd-audio0   951       root  txt   unknown                               /proc/951/exe (readlink: Permission denied)
[18:26] <tim167> hd-audio0   951       root NOFD                                         /proc/951/fd (opendir: Permission denied)
[18:26] <tim167> nautilus   1960        tim  mem       REG        8,5     250232 1976359 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstaudio-0.10.so.0.25
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, without knowing the card you are basically dead in the water, I suspect a broadcom, which needs some configuration.  Are you on windows now while trying to fix ubuntu?
[18:26] <FloodBot1> tim167: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:26] <Meris> Does anoyone have experience with medion gaming mouse? I've attached the thing to my Ubuntu 12.04. The buttons don't work adnd the cursor doesn't go further than perhaps 1/6th of the screen
[18:26] <pillarsdotnet> Packaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ?
[18:26] <tim167> sorry for flooding guys
[18:27] <maladore> lauratika it could be a driver problem. i am not highly skilled in ubuntu but i had that problem
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | tim167
[18:27] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, lsof /dev/snd/*
[18:27] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, try that
[18:27] <Whitestar> wilee you talking about networking issues?  I'm experiencing some... care to tell me what ya need to know?
[18:27] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, then the COMMAND column shows processes which are using sound devices
[18:27] <zorbama> How can I configure my Wacom tablet buttons? Changing the functions through the GUI has no effect.
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> Whitestar, you need to ask your questions to the channel and see who knows what. ;)
[18:28]  * Whitestar has been beating his head against the wall for like 14 hours
[18:28] <Whitestar> lol, kk :)
[18:28] <lauratika> wilee-milee: yes im in windows... im on a lenovo all in one cseries 200
[18:28] <tim167> aha, jackdbus ??
[18:28] <leaper> Hey is a lenovo computer any good?
[18:28] <leaper> Laratika: switch to ubuntu
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, you need to indentify the card then come back for help.
[18:29] <Whitestar> Anyone know how to get a wireless nic to work in a virtual box ubuntu setting?  Tried bridging it thru vb, but doesn't show up as wlan0, shows up at eth1 and doesn't detect the router I'm connected to in windows (7)...
[18:29] <lauratika> leaper just got it, seem ok
[18:29] <leaper> Just wondering
[18:29] <Meris> leaper: lenovo computers can be good, but ultimately it all depends what you need it for, regardless of the brand
[18:29] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: dr_willis: lsof /dev/snd/* shows jackdbus, I try killall jackdbus, but nothing seems to happen
[18:29] <lauratika> wilee-nilee: ok, let me try that
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom > lauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link
[18:29] <leaper> They're on sale at my local walmart
[18:29] <leaper> For cheap
[18:30] <Meris> leaper, which model is?
[18:30] <histo> Whitestar: yeah it will show up as eth0 in the guest but uses your wlan0 on your host
[18:30] <leaper> Dunno
[18:30] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, pkill -9 jackdbus
[18:30] <leaper> I just need one for a fast, everyday computer
[18:30] <histo> Whitestar: You could use a usb wireless adapter and a usb filter I believe to have it show as a wireless device in the guest OS
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom > lauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | lauratika if it is a broadcom follow this link
[18:30] <Meris> leaper, people can only help you with that question if you know the model, or at least some specs.
[18:31] <leaper> Laptop for one
[18:31] <Whitestar> histo: trying to get the wireless nic to go to monitor mode... am I just missing something?  the commands don't work when I try it...
[18:31] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd:  woooot :) thanks a lot, made my day !
[18:31] <Whitestar> histo: no way to do it with a regular card?
[18:31] <histo> Whitestar: I don't believe so i'm doing some digging now
[18:31] <Meris> leaper, that is not exactly specific, now is it?
[18:32] <leaper> I don't have the model
[18:32] <Whitestar> histo: want the model of the card?  it's not a broadcom ;)
[18:32] <leaper> I just glanced at a walmart magazine, and saw "LENOVO LAPTOPS ON SALE"
[18:32] <leaper> Then looked at the price and flipped out
[18:33] <Whitestar> histo: mind if I pm?
[18:33] <WarOfTheNerd> tim167, now don't get rid of PulseAudio, set it up like it was shipped as default, complete with the ALSA PulseAudio Plugin and if an app tries to steal exclusive access, then ask for help
[18:33] <Meris> leaper, well in general Lenovo laptops are good
[18:33] <leaper> Ok thanks
[18:33] <pillarsdotnet> I love my Lenovo W520.
[18:34] <Meris> leaper, just don't buy it before you have seen what the specs. are and if they are enough for your purposes
[18:34] <tim167> WarOfTheNerd: I haven't installed PulseAudio, it's the pkill -9 jackdbus that did it for me, that's all I need for now...thanks for helping, have a nice day
[18:34] <leaper> And they're fine with Ubuntu?
[18:34] <pillarsdotnet> leaper: yup.
[18:34] <luftikuss> What considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."
[18:35] <leaper> Ok
[18:35] <WarOfTheNerd> leaper, for any non-gaming uses you can pretty much get anything these days
[18:35] <histo> Whitestar: it can't be done with virtualbox
[18:35] <kantlivelong> im going insanew
[18:35] <pillarsdotnet> leaper: Only problem is that Optimus support is ... problematic.  But that's true of all laptops with dual Intel / Nvidia video hardware.
[18:35] <leaper> WarOfTheNerd: I do play minecraft every now and then
[18:35] <kantlivelong> my dvd burner is randomly spinning up even tho theres no cd
[18:35] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, it's broken on Windows too
[18:35] <histo> Whitestar: The only way is with the non OSS edition of virtualbox and a usb wireless adapter.
[18:36] <kantlivelong> leaper: pillarsdotnet im using bumblebee and its workin rather well so far
[18:36] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, I broke a few laptops in shops when trying to make benchmark apps work with dual Intel/NVIDIA
[18:36] <maladore> I have a nvidia mx 440 how to do i get it to higher resolutions in ubuntu 12.04 currecntly 1024x768
[18:36] <Meris> I'm trying to use a Medion MD86079 Gaming mouse on Ubuntu 12.04, but the cursor only gets as far as 1/6th of the screen and the buttons don't do anything, The device does not show up in the USB ID Database. Any suggestions?
[18:36] <Whitestar> histo: what about a partitioned drive?  would it work that way?  and what types of problems can I potentially run into?
[18:37] <pillarsdotnet> kantlivelong, leaper: Yeah, I'm using bumblebee too.  The optirun hack works with most but not all opengl programs.
[18:37] <histo> Whitestar: Do you mean dualbooting?
[18:37] <WarOfTheNerd> histo, there is no such thing as a non OSS version of VirtualBox anymore
[18:37] <kantlivelong> pillarsdotnet: odd i havent had an issue yet.
[18:37] <histo> WarOfTheNerd: ahh
[18:37] <Whitestar> histo: I don't mind doing the research, just new at it and don't wanna go in blind... I'm thinking second operating system...
[18:38] <Whitestar> histo: Not running both at the same time, just a clean ubuntu install on a partitioned drive and load in that way
[18:38] <WarOfTheNerd> histo, since Oracle took over, USB support is built-in for USB 1.1 and if you want non-OSS features you install an "Extension Pack" that goes on top of the OSS version
[18:38] <histo> Whitestar: yeah you could do that then which ever OS you boot would have access to your physical hardware.
[18:38] <WeThePeople> meris, 'sudo apt-get update' maybe
[18:38] <histo> WarOfTheNerd: that's right they went with the extension pack thing
[18:38] <Whitestar> histo: Ever try hooking a blackberry up in ubuntu?
[18:38] <histo> WarOfTheNerd: it's been awhile
[18:38] <pillarsdotnet> kantlivelong: haven't had *much* problems since turning off compiz, but there are some edge cases.
[18:39] <histo> Whitestar: Are you currently running ubuntu as a virtual machine?
[18:39] <Whitestar> histo: it's my only internet source atm... running it tethered, wondering if it'll work as well
[18:39] <Whitestar> histo: Yep
[18:39] <kantlivelong> pillarsdotnet: wonder how far we are off from kernel support
[18:40] <histo> Whitestar: ahh yeah i'd setup a dualboot setup. Resizing windows and leaving some space on the drive for ubuntu.  The installer can walk you through all that. Just defrag your windows drive first.
[18:40] <pillarsdotnet> Anybody else using rEFInd for EFI booting?
[18:40] <histo> Whitestar: I don't own a blackberry but I would search on askubuntu or the forums and see if anyone is having issues with tethering your specific model.
[18:40] <WarOfTheNerd> Whitestar, it works on Ubuntu for backups if you install an app called barrybackup (package: barrybackup-gui)
[18:40] <Whitestar> histo: Kk, thanks for the help :)
[18:40] <pillarsdotnet> Packaging question: How can I make an amd64 package depend on libjpeg62:i386 ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/502920
[18:41] <WarOfTheNerd> No idea about tethering, since I never even got it working on Windows, let alone Linux
[18:41] <Whitestar> warofthenerd: Which reminds me, installing apps... I can download them ahead and throw them on a usb key right?
[18:41] <rhizmoe> google "ubuntu screencast" and note the lack of well-placed results for simple instructions for creating screencasts
[18:41] <WarOfTheNerd> Whitestar, for BlackBerry?  you can throw them on the BB in the right directory and it'll offer to install
[18:41] <rhizmoe> not to mention "waiting for wiki.ubuntu.com..."
[18:41] <Whitestar> warofthenerd: Awesome, thanks :)
[18:41] <pillarsdotnet> Whitestar: Yup. Use "apt-get download packagename" to download.
[18:42] <Whitestar> histo: Thanks for the help sir
[18:42] <Whitestar> pillarsdotnet: K, will get on all of this in a few moments.. time to do dishes, switch laundry loads... got it sucks being a stay at home dad sometimes... ;)
[18:42] <cecko> hi all, I am on Quantal, my system does not shut down properly, it gets stuck in the process, can you help me what logs to look into?
[18:43] <WarOfTheNerd> cecko, try #ubuntu+1 for help with that
[18:43] <WarOfTheNerd> cecko, we don't support the alpha/beta/dev stream in here, that's what +1 exists for :)
[18:43] <cecko> WarOfTheNerd: thanks
[18:43] <pillarsdotnet> What are the official ubuntu help channels?
[18:43] <pillarsdotnet> Or how can I get a list?
[18:44] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, this is for up to date versions
[18:44] <WarOfTheNerd> for dev/beta/alpha it's #ubuntu+1
[18:44] <WarOfTheNerd> and there are regional channels like -fr, -es etc.
[18:44] <Neptu> this is really screw up cron is not working even with an echo "lala" >> /home/neptu/lala.txt
[18:44] <lauratika> wilee-nilee: my card is an atheros
[18:45] <pillarsdotnet> WarOfTheNerd: So I should be asking my question in the other channel?
[18:45] <e-i-k-e> hi
[18:45] <HellTiger> hello
[18:45] <HellTiger> can i upgrade a server installation to a desktop system?
[18:46] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, only if it applies to Quantal Quetzal (12.10)
[18:46] <rhizmoe> Neptu: if that's your entire cron command, you should have an email in your (local) mailbox with the output
[18:46] <rhizmoe> HellTiger: what do you mean, just to install a desktop environment or something?
[18:46] <Neptu> rhizmoe: i get nothing
[18:46] <HellTiger> yes
[18:46] <HellTiger> via apt kde
[18:46] <HellTiger> it was the server iso
[18:47] <pillarsdotnet> WarOfTheNerd: Where is a good place to ask a packaging question?  Not release-specific -- trying to package something new.
[18:47] <e-i-k-e> what is the easiest way for me to see what packages i've installed from "foreign sources" (don't know the EN term, DE here...)... messed up my system with anoying dependencies...
[18:48] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, try #ubuntu-motu
[18:48] <rhizmoe> HellTiger: i think it's just apt-get install <whatever>-desktop (xubuntu, gnome, etc.)
[18:48] <HellTiger> ok
[18:48] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, MOTU stands for Masters Of The Universe and it's the channel for packaging anything you want to go into Universe or Multiverse
[18:48] <HellTiger> e-i-k-e: you should go in the direction: dpkg -l
[18:48] <pillarsdotnet> ah.
[18:48] <pillarsdotnet> thanks.
[18:49] <WarOfTheNerd> pillarsdotnet, it's kinda a historical reference because originally Ubuntu had Universe/Multiverse disabled by default and those repos had separate packagers
[18:50] <WarOfTheNerd> (now I think everyone just digs in to make the best of everything)
[18:54] <Neptu> rhizmoe: this is weird now the echo works... but i can not run /usr/sbin/ntpdate server >> /lala.txt
[18:56] <Neptu> rhizmoe: this might has to do with the editor used?
[18:56] <e-i-k-e> HellTiger: using synaptic's "origin" list seems to fit my needs
[18:58] <Zaehlas> ok, still fighting with the isc-dhcp-server.  Fresh install of server 12.04.  using syslog I've isolated all errors with the dhcp.conf file, however it's listening on the wrong interface.  I cannot find the correct config file to change this...  Can anyone help?
[18:58] <histo> Neptu: who's crontab are you putting that in?
[18:59] <luftikuss> What considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."
[18:59] <gunarm1> can anyone in gnome tell me what the the "kill program" applet command is?  its crashed and i can't find it in ps to kill
[18:59] <Neptu> histo: the one that comes standard with the install did not changed nothing
[18:59] <histo> Neptu: can your normal user run that command wihtout permission problems?
[18:59] <luftikuss> gunarm1: What GUI are you using?
[19:00] <internetN00b> hi, how do I switch workspace by scrolling on the desktop in gnome-shell?
[19:00] <eHAPPY> ok so im trying to install a .deb file through terminal and it keeps giving me errors, if i do it through the GUI it installs just fine, any help? dpkg -i .deb is what im doing
[19:00] <Neptu> histo: lets try again
[19:00] <Neptu> yes it can
[19:00] <Neptu> histo: yes it can
[19:01] <luftikuss> eHAPPY: Please state the exact error message.
[19:01] <Neptu> the weird thing here is that sometimes works and sometimes does not
[19:01] <histo> Neptu: can you pastebin your crontab   just crontab -l to see it's contents
[19:01] <gunarm1> luftikuss, gnome classic
[19:01] <Neptu> with the same command
[19:01] <Neptu> root@av-meteo:/# crontab -l
[19:01] <Neptu> * * * * * echo 'lala' >> /lala.txt
[19:01] <[snake]> I have a gtk question ( in C ) but no one is in gtk barely. only ten people they never answer :(
[19:01] <Ubuntuser101234> hello
[19:01] <histo> Neptu: well get rid of 's
[19:02] <gunarm1> luftikuss, actually apparently 12.04 breaks the force quit applet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/894347
[19:02] <Neptu> histo: rid of what?
[19:02] <histo> Neptu: the ' <----
[19:02] <Neptu> this is actually working
[19:02] <histo> Neptu: okay then what is the problem?
[19:02] <Ubuntuser101234> i cant seem to get softwere in ubuntu 12.04
[19:03] <[snake]> I suppose no one in here is a gtk programmer :(
[19:03] <Neptu> histo: no idea... gonna try something a bit more complicated
[19:03] <leaper> What's GTK?
[19:03] <david__> does installing cinnamon slow down my boot time and or system?
[19:04] <luftikuss> gunarm1: Sorry. I can't help you. I do not have such an applet.
[19:04] <[snake]> leaper, gui stuff. like winapi but linuxxy. also for linux there is qt I know.
[19:04] <histo> Neptu: use crontab -e to edit your file also you are logged in as root so you are making changes to root's crontab
[19:04] <gunarm1> luftikuss, thanks anyway its a bug in the LTS
[19:04] <Guest69837> when installing xubuntu i get an I/O error errno 5 and it says that my drive or disc is broken but the live session works and i used imgburn and validated the image after install. i just installed win7 to another partition too so i think the dvd drive is not the problem. the hard drive is an ssd and i just bought it so i dont think its broken. the installer stops at copying files and in the mini console it says something about dup
[19:04] <Guest69837> licate sources. what can i do?
[19:04] <eHAPPY> luftikuss http://imgur.com/jpLsQ
[19:04] <Neptu> histo: exactly and that is what i want to do
[19:04] <luftikuss> gunarm1: Ok. I did not know.
[19:05] <[snake]> Ubuntuser101234, what do you mean?
[19:05] <histo> Neptu: then the proper way would be sudo crontab -e
[19:05] <Neptu> histo: I can try with that aswell but is the same thing basically
[19:05] <Neptu> du a sudo bash
[19:06] <Neptu> or sudo conrtab -e is same thing
[19:06] <gunarm1> is echo$? how you get an error code?
[19:06] <gunarm1> echo $?
[19:06] <histo> Neptu: sudo bash is not proper. If you want to get to a root prompt sudo -i
[19:06] <Neptu> histo: is not executing nothing more than an echo
[19:06] <Neptu> ok
[19:06] <Neptu> will do that
[19:06] <greatwarrior> hello everybody. I wanted a help regarding gparted.
[19:07] <someprimetime> i just created a user, added them to `admin and now when i login with that user, it seems that the termincal colors are turned off... is there a way to grant that to the user or group of `admin`?
[19:07] <gunarm1> sudo -i ? not sudo su?
[19:07] <Ubuntuser101234> ok i cant seem to get software in ubuntu 12.04LTS and i cant download stuff off  the ubuntu softwere center it keeps saying package dependencies cant be resolved
[19:07] <Ubuntuser101234> and i dont know what to do i use ubuntu 10.04
[19:07] <gunarm1> Ubuntuser101234, did you do a sudo apt-get update
[19:07] <Neptu> histo: seems to be some diferent let w8 to the next minute
[19:08] <gunarm1> Ubuntuser101234, are you in 12.04 or 10.04?
[19:08] <greatwarrior> can anybody please  help me regarding gparted ? i am new to this channel
[19:08] <fsdarewqt> if i do "sudo su -" what would happen
[19:08] <fsdarewqt> would it ask me for the password?
[19:08] <gunarm1> greatwarrior, ask your question
[19:08] <histo> someprimetime: how did you create the user perhaps they didn't get skeleton files for .bashrc etc... from /etc/skel
[19:08] <gunarm1> if anyone knows the answer, and is so inclined, they will tell you
[19:09] <Ubuntuser101234> 12.04 im used to 10.04
[19:09] <someprimetime> histo: useradd someprimetime
[19:09] <luftikuss> eHAPPY: Try to do first 'sudo apt-get update'. Let it follow by 'sudo apt-get upgrade'. Is this successful?
[19:09] <histo> someprimetime: should have copied but take a look in your /home/someprimetime and ls -lah
[19:09] <gunarm1> Ubuntuser101234, try following luftikuss' above instructions to eHAPPY
[19:10] <[snake]> Ubuntuser101234, http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[19:10] <eHAPPY> luftikuss ok that worked! i must have forgot the -f thanks!
[19:10] <luftikuss> eHAPPY: yw
[19:10] <Zaehlas> Still trying to get my isc-dhcp-server up.  I have verified the dhcpd.conf file is correct, but it's listening on the wrong interface.  All guides say to point at /etc/sysconfig/dhcp and edit that file to add command line arguments to the initial script, but that file didn't exist on my system, and doesn't change the process when I restart it..  I could change the original startup script, but that seems a bit clunky.  Can anyone help?
[19:11] <someprimetime> histo: did that.. drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4.0K Aug 31 08:24 public_html
[19:11] <Neptu> histo: seems to work sometimes...
[19:11] <T|> T
[19:12] <greatwarrior> since the existing hard disk space in ubuntu is insufficient, I want to add an empty drive from windows to ubuntu. So i opted for gparted, even i unmounted the drive which i want to add. But still i am not getting how to add to ext4.
[19:13] <histo> someprimetime: yeah you are missing the default files.. copy them out of /etc/skel/  to your users home
[19:13] <someprimetime> histo: thx
[19:13] <someprimetime> will do
[19:15] <ubuntumongol> T
[19:16] <internetN00b> is it possible to have a single button in the menu bar in firefox as on windows 7
[19:16] <internetN00b> right now the menu items all shows
[19:16] <histo> someprimetime: you could do something like cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/someprimetime/   should copy the hidden files over
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: hide the menu and it collapses into one
[19:17] <someprimetime> that worked!
[19:17] <someprimetime> thx histo
[19:18] <histo> someprimetime: or i guess a more proper solution would be cp -a /etc/skel/* /home/someprimetime  but either way
[19:18] <luftikuss> What considers urxvt a "resource"? 'man urxvt': "OPTIONS: ... -depth bitdepth: Compile xft: Attempt to find a visual with the given bit depth; resource depth."
[19:19] <internetN00b> ActionParsnip, thanks, worked
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: np dude, great for small displays
[19:19] <histo> someprimetime: ignore that last response that won't work
[19:20] <internetN00b> ActionParsnip, I have a 1080p screen but it is a waste of space
[19:20] <szal> luftikuss: did you mean: "What does urxvt consider a 'resource'?"
[19:20] <szal> that's a difference
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: you can get 10" sreens with 1080P, doesn't mean much ;)
[19:20] <luftikuss> szal: Yes.
[19:20] <internetN00b> ActionParsnip, well, I am getting my 1440p screen soon :-)
[19:21] <internetN00b> paid only 450 euros for it
[19:21] <luftikuss> szal: The difference is only in grammar.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: sounds exciting.....
[19:22] <internetN00b> ActionParsnip, yes :-) much much more space with a 1440p ips monitor
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: what do you use your system for?
[19:22] <internetN00b> ActionParsnip, programming
[19:23] <someprimetime> hmm for some reason on the new user i added to the admin group, it's not allowing them to write anything... e.g. keeps throwing this error when writing and quitting in vim: E138: Can't write viminfo file /home/someprimetime/.viminfo!
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: ahh, makes sense
[19:23] <szal> luftikuss: no, it isn't..  your original question would imply that somethings considers urxvt a resource ;)
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> someprimetime: run:  sudo chown -R someprimetime:someprimetime /home/someprimetime
[19:24] <histo> someprimetime: what are the permissions of their home directory and the .viminfo file?
[19:24] <histo> someprimetime: ls -l /home
[19:24] <rox> internetN00b: funny nick for a programmer
[19:24] <luftikuss> szal: We could discuss that in more detail. But it would divert from the problem proper.
[19:24] <internetN00b> rox, haha, yes :-)
[19:24] <someprimetime> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep  1 19:21 someprimetime
[19:24] <someprimetime> ActionParsnip: thx i'll try that
[19:24] <rohn> well today i bought an asus 1225c netbook and installed 11.10
[19:24] <rohn> but i can not play hd video
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> someprimetime: it will make the folder and sub folders be owned by the user who's folder it is
[19:25] <rohn> can any one help me
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> rohn: what video chip does it use?
[19:25] <rohn> i am new to ubunyu
[19:25] <histo> someprimetime: sudo chown -R someprimetime:someprimetime /home/someprimetime
[19:25] <rohn> ubuntu
[19:25] <rohn> i dont know
[19:25] <rohn> how i know it??
[19:25] <rox> internetN00b: i remember one of channel guidelines back from the old days in #debian it said "Don't bother telling us you are a newb or a noob. We can tell."
[19:26] <someprimetime> ActionParsnip && histo thanks that worked :)
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> rohn: can you run:  lspci | grep -i vga      what is output?
[19:26] <gordonjcp> rox: harsh, but totally reasonable
[19:26] <histo> someprimetime: what did you do create a new user with a home on a mounted partition?
[19:26] <someprimetime> appreciate it guys
[19:26] <rox> rohn: what happens when you want to play a video?
[19:27] <someprimetime> histo: i was on root and created a new user with useradd added them to the admin group then opened `visudo` and added them specifically to the bottom with someprimetime ALL=(ALL) ALL
[19:27] <rohn> it cannot palying after 2 seconds
[19:27] <internetN00b> !java
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> rohn: what is the output of my command please
[19:27] <rox> rohn: explaining your problem in detail is a good thing, if you are trying to get somebody to help you. Tell us what is it you are trying to accomplish, what are your actions in your attempts to accomplish your goal, and lastly, what happens, when you perform your actions
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   easier :)
[19:28] <rohn> rox, i am totaly new to ubuntu
[19:28] <Meris> back
[19:28] <baizon> why not using openjdk?
[19:28] <rohn> i dont know what happnens
[19:29] <rox> rohn: did you try different cideo players?
[19:29] <histo> someprimetime: you could have just added them to the sudo group on ubuntu and they would have sudo access
[19:29] <rohn> rox, i tried ubuntu and totem
[19:29] <someprimetime> histo: ah should i change what i did and do that instead ?
[19:29] <rohn> both are same
[19:29] <rox> rohn: ubuntu is not a video player
[19:29] <rohn> sorry vlc
[19:30] <rox> rohn: and they both do the same?
[19:30] <rohn> rox, yes
[19:30] <internetN00b> is it possible to edit png files on ubuntu?
[19:30] <histo> someprimetime: doesn't matter either way it's just a default group and sudo setup in ubuntu. just add someprimetime to the sudo group and sudo visudo and remove the line you put in there.
[19:30] <rohn> my net book is asus 1225c
[19:30] <histo> internetN00b: yes
[19:31] <someprimetime> ok cool thanks
[19:32] <rohn> ActionParsnip, what is your command
[19:32] <scarrs> I need some help setting up proftp please... I am getting a login incorrect error, was working this morning help!
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> rohn: can you run:  lspci | grep -i vga      what is output?
[19:32] <rox> rohn: do not paste it here, drop it in pastebin
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> its only one line, so its ok to paste here
[19:33] <rohn> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Cedarview Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> rohn: have you considered using 12.04 rather than 11.10? Precise is LTS and has a later kernel, drivers and Xorg. May help
[19:34] <someprimetime> histo: done thanks again
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: edit in what way? Gimp is a great opensource graphics suite
[19:35] <rox> rohn: could you try to run your video player from a terminal, so maybe you could get some output from it?
[19:36] <Meris> Is there any way to adjust settings for nVidia GPU's from the command-line (propriatary driver)?
[19:36] <rohn> ActionParsnip, at first i used 12.04 but there was a problem
[19:37] <rohn> in 12.04 there is a restricted driver called some drm driver
[19:37] <internetN00b> ActionParsnip, problems most templates comes in png and psd formats :-(
[19:37] <rox> internetN00b: gimp handles both, last i tried it
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: png is fine
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> rohn: the default intel driver should be ok
[19:39] <rohn> but when i install it my netbook just hangs and screens gose black
[19:39] <internetN00b> would be nice if Ubuntu ask me for my sudo password when I try to drag and drop a folder to a location where I don't have permission to write to
[19:40] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: file a bug
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: just run:  gksudo nautilus    and you can do as you wish
[19:40] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: you're not wrong
[19:40] <gordonjcp> that might be a nice thing to have
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> internetN00b: its a sound idea
[19:40] <Meris> I agree
[19:40] <internetN00b> it is not a bug but a feature ;-)
[19:40] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: get stuck in, contribute to Ubuntu
[19:40] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: pfff, feature request then
[19:41] <gordonjcp> go on
[19:41] <gordonjcp> DO EEEEET
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> get too tha chorpah
[19:41] <gordonjcp> sign up for Launchpad if you haven't already, fire off a feature request
[19:41] <internetN00b> I will do it later. need to setup my workspace first
[19:41] <internetN00b> is it free to sign up?
[19:41] <gordonjcp> the worst that'll happen is the devs will point and laugh and tell you to go away
[19:41] <gordonjcp> yes, it is
[19:41] <Meris> internetN00b:
[19:41] <HenriqueGogs> know how to install Unity on Debian?
[19:41] <morsnowski> can't change permissions of executable file on fat32 partition any idea why that is? tried to sudo chmod, I don't get any error message but the permissions do not change
[19:41] <internetN00b> gordonjcp, that is what I am afraid of
[19:42] <WarOfTheNerd> HenriqueGogs, no, this is not #debian anyway
[19:42] <internetN00b> a lot of them are full of themself
[19:42] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: tbh I'd take a look at it myself but my list of projects is too long as it is
[19:42] <WarOfTheNerd> HenriqueGogs, also it's a Canonical project for Ubuntu, why would you want it on Debian when there aren't any dedicated devs on the Debian team for it anyway?
[19:43] <WarOfTheNerd> internetN00b: asking for a sudo password on copying to places without permission is a bad idea for multiple reasons.  The major one being sudo timeout will let a user foobar their system
[19:44] <HenriqueGogs> WarOfTheNerd, i just wanna try on my debian desktop, but thanks, I'm asking on #debian
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> HenriqueGogs: I'd ask in #debian
[19:45] <internetN00b> warfaren, umm I don't see the problem
[19:45] <internetN00b> sudo should time out as soon as the job is done
[19:45] <internetN00b> now I have to use the terminal to do the job
[19:45] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: no, sudo remains active for a few minutes
[19:45] <dienes> hi
[19:46] <gordonjcp> ie. you only need to put your password in once, and keep using sudo
[19:46] <dienes> can you help me for nokia unlocking?
[19:46] <internetN00b> gordonjcp, then use another method that ends as soon as the job is done?
[19:46] <gordonjcp> dienes: it's unlikely
[19:46] <morsnowski> can't change permissions of executable file on fat32 partition any idea why that is? tried to sudo chmod, I don't get any error message but the permissions do not change
[19:46] <gordonjcp> internetN00b: for drag-and-drop onto folders?  You could do
[19:47] <dienes> gordonjcp: okok.. thanks a lot
[19:47] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: mounted read-only, setting permissions that fat32 doesn't have?
[19:47] <morsnowski> gordonjcp, try to set executable
[19:47] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: fat32 is *always* executable
[19:47] <rohn> how to hibernate machine in ubuntu??
[19:47] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: the fat32 filesystem has no concept of "executable" so it's assumed to be always on
[19:48] <morsnowski> gordonjcp, for all i care i'd be happy with 777 but if I look at them they don't show executable
[19:48] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: check how it's mounted
[19:48] <morsnowski> gordonjcp, ?
[19:48] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: it's possible to mount a filesystem with noexec
[19:48] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: what's the output of mount for that device?
[19:48] <morsnowski> gordonjcp, how would i check?
[19:49] <morsnowski> thanks
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> rohn: its in the cog menu in the top right if memory serves?
[19:49] <morsnowski> gordonjcp, /dev/sdc1 on /media/XMIND type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)
[19:50] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: I'd have to pick through the man page for mount to interpret all that, and I'm busy
[19:50] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: which is a polite way of saying "man mount" and "RTFM"
[19:50] <gordonjcp> morsnowski: ;-)
[19:50] <david__> dose anyone know of a way to check and make sure my system in running healty and stable. Like dependencies test or libraries test ect....
[19:50] <david__> ?
[19:50] <cinead> unity 2d is pretty sweet with vnc - 3d, not so much.
[19:50] <rohn> ActionParsnip, there is only suspend and shut down
[19:51] <gordonjcp> rohn: funny, it *was* there...
[19:52] <Bipul> Hellow my audio is not clear, it's cracking. how to fix it any one?
[19:52] <netraameht> Is there a bash expert?
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> rohn: try: sudo pm-hibernate
[19:53] <netraameht> Something is wrong in my code
[19:53] <netraameht> And there is nobody in #bash talkin
[19:53] <rox> netraameht: pm
[19:55] <Bipul> Hellow my audio is not clear, it's cracking. how to fix it any one?
[19:55] <maxim> ciao a tutti
[19:55] <luftikuss> !sound | Bipul
[19:56] <dakota> Hey
[19:56] <dakota> Can anyone here help me with a .net framework problem?
[19:57] <luftikuss> dakota: Certainly. But you need to state it in detail.
[19:57] <rohn> ActionParsnip, :(
[19:58] <Espnu> Hey guys, got a simple question for you. How can i jump to a specific location, if i have the "adress"?
[19:58] <svampo> ciao
[19:58] <Espnu> in ubuntu's file manager
[19:58] <trijntje> Espnu: ctrl + l
[19:58] <trijntje> then you can paste the path
[19:58] <Espnu> cheers, so well hidden.. :p
[19:59] <dakota> Okies well I'm trying to play starcraft 2 on ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. Currently I get this when I try to login. http://i.imgur.com/UJG5w.jpg Then when I try to download visual studio 2005 from wintricks I get this error.
[19:59] <dakota> http://imgur.com/ft6Ju
[19:59] <ishi> hi there!
[20:00] <ishi> where the (@#%@#$%) xorg.conf's gone? ;)
[20:00] <Daekdroom> ishi, long gone.
[20:00] <ishi> why is it that *every time* I try to change X config, I struggle with it.
[20:00] <internetN00b> is there a good alternative to navicat for Ubuntu?
[20:00] <ishi> it's the most incomprehensible configuration system... and it must change daily :)
[20:01] <ishi> Daekdroom: well... how to I set default keybord layout now?
[20:01] <ishi> :)
[20:01] <Daekdroom> ishi, it's (usually) not necessary anymore, and not used by default, but I think that if you do want to use it, it should be placed at /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[20:02] <ishi> well... to be honest... I don't care how the default keyboard is set... as long as it's set :)
[20:02] <pustynnikov> s
[20:02] <ishi> so if there is a 'bright and shiny new way' of doing this...  I'll gladly use it :)
[20:02] <QuX_> Hey, I recently got a VPS running 12.04 Server version. I installed ubuntu-desktop on it and rebooted. Now my question is, how could I run TeamViewer on that GUI and access it? I only managed to make a Xvfb server and connect to that for now.
[20:03] <dakota> anyone?
[20:03] <ishi> Daekdroom: I tend to configure X something like every 2 or 3 years... ;)... I don't remember what's the xorg.conf format...  So... I could create one, yes, but I have no idea what to put there...  So, I might just as well learn (and forget) the new way :)
[20:04] <guntbert> internetN00b: what is navicat?
[20:04] <luftikuss> dakota: I'm interpreting this as follows: Net framework2.0 can only be installed on a 32-bit operating system. But yours is a 64-bit operationg system.
[20:05] <Ripper003> 12.04 x86_64, package libexttextcat-data has an update available and yet I can't mark it in update manager to be upgraded?
[20:05] <dakota> Yeah is there a way to get in on 64 bit? I'm confused because I don't see why 64 bit would make a difference besides the way winetricks tries to download it
[20:06] <internetN00b> guntbert, a database tool, extremely handy tool
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> rohn: does the command work?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> dakota: did you check the appdb?
[20:07] <dakota> Yeah I didn't see anything on it.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     is it smooth (close software centre first)
[20:07] <luftikuss> dakota: I doubt that it will be available in 64 bit. The underlying mechanism to run a Windows program on a Linux (Ubuntu) machine is more complicated than you probably thought so far.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> dakota: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11123
[20:08] <ishi> ok, fsck it... I'll just add setxkbmap to my .xinitrc ;)
[20:08] <dakota> Well I looked for running wine in 32-bit mode and they said it was pointless. I thought wine was just an emulator?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> dakota: seems there is a reg fix you need. Have you seen that page?
[20:09] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip, yeah the action is smooth it just generates the report '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded'
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> dakota: wine stands for (w)ine (i)s (n)ot an (e)mulator
[20:09] <luftikuss> dakota: wine is no emulator.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> dakota: so no, its not an emulator
[20:09] <dakota> oh. lmao my bad
[20:09] <guntbert> internetN00b: have a look at http://www.osalt.com/navicat please
[20:10] <dakota> Uhh where is it? I'm looking..
[20:10] <internetN00b> guntbert, just did. trying out an alternative at the moment
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> dakota: you do realise there is a native spotify client? You don't need to run spotify via wine now, it integrates better to the OS
[20:11] <dakota> Oh really? lol I'm confused on how you know I'm running it on wine.. :O
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> dakota: because it doesn't have tux sat by it
[20:11] <QuX_> Hey, I recently got a VPS running 12.04 Server version. I installed ubuntu-desktop on it and rebooted. Now my question is, how could I run TeamViewer on that GUI and access it? I only managed to make a Xvfb server and connect to that for now.
[20:12] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: yeah the action is smooth it just generates the report '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded'
[20:12] <internetN00b> guntbert, sadly Squirrel-sql does not work
[20:13] <dakota> I'm so confused. lol sorry for my noobness.
[20:14] <ishi> QuX_: I seem to remember you asking this question already :).  Probably noone knows the answer to this.  For me, I don't have idea what VPS is, what 12.04 Servier is, not to mention I never heard of TeamViewer and have no clue as to what Xvfb is.
[20:14] <dakota> okok I see what you mean by native spotify 1 sec
[20:14] <ishi> QuX_: oh... BTW, I know what 'ubuntu-desktop' is, but am not using it ;)
[20:15] <dr_willis> QuX_:  install a vnc server, run vncserver, and use a vnc client to connect to teh rem0te desktop. or use X forwarding
[20:15] <guntbert> internetN00b: I just saw it is not in the repos - sorry then
[20:15] <dr_willis> NOT teamviewer.
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> dakota: echo "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list; gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.de.pgp.net --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E; gpg --export 4E9CFF4E |sudo apt-key add -; sudo apt-get install spotify-client
[20:15] <dakota> Yeah yeah I'm doing that now.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> dakota: its a linux app, not a windows app
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> dakota: native
[20:16] <dakota> I tried that last time and gave up
[20:16] <dakota> I'll try it again now
[20:16] <Ripper003> would sudo add-apt-repository not do the same thing?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> QuX_: what do you intend to do on the desktop once connected?
[20:17] <QuX_> Build and use an graphical application
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> QuX_: makes sense then :)
[20:17] <dr_willis> X forwarding can forward a single app to your local machines display
[20:18] <dakota> Okay it's installing. But back to starcraft is there a way I can run it in 64-bit? If not I want to try setting the default boot to 64bit and having to do something else when trying to reboot to 32 bit. I don't like the grub waiting time
[20:18] <luftikuss> QuX_: What do you mean by 'VPS'? 'Video_Program_System'?
[20:18] <QuX_> dr_willis: That sounds good. How to use it?
[20:18] <dr_willis> QuX_:  ssh to remote server. run the app....
[20:19] <QuX_> -X flag in ssh?
[20:19] <err-or_> QuX_: over ssh?
[20:19] <dr_willis> and if you got a local X server going.. it uses it..
[20:19] <dr_willis> -x and -X are totally differnt in SSh. ;)
[20:19] <QuX_> Ok, thanks.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> dakota: I'd ask in #winehq too
[20:19] <QuX_> luftikuss: Virtual Private Server.
[20:19] <dr_willis> !ssh > QuX_
[20:19] <dakota> okies
[20:20] <luftikuss> QuX_: I see.
[20:20] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: it looks like the package is being held back because it breaks something...
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: then you will have to wait while the deps get satisfied in the repos
[20:21] <F1CCC> Hi !! W4sp
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: it will then be installable. If you have PPAs enabled which may conflict then I suggest you disable them
[20:22] <Stimrol_> does anyone know how to get flash to work in ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu-restricted is installed, have tried chrome, firefox and opera, and is always crash
[20:22] <ryao> Is ther a quick way to do a headless install of Ubuntu?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> ryao: use the server install CD (or minimal) and install openssh-server    and you are good to go
[20:22] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: I don't know, that might be a while since this upgrade seems to be released in Quantal atm and I'm using a 'Quantal' cycle kernel
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Stimrol_: can you please give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: then you will get issues as you are not using the official kernel
[20:23] <ryao> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: the kernel from Quantal is not suitable for Precise
[20:24] <ryao> ActionParsnip: What makes it unsuitable?
[20:24] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: god dammit lol
[20:24] <ryao> As long as the modules match the kernel, it should just work.
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ryao: it can break things, plus its an unofficial kernel so we have no idea of the options
[20:24] <dr_willis> unless of course other new software is using some differnt features of the other kernel....
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> ryao: we cannot support unofficai packages here, it will work we just have no way of knowing how well
[20:25] <dr_willis> that dident get included in the other kernel.
[20:25] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: not 'suitable' or not 'advisable' because it is running a lot better on my laptop than 3.2/3 ever did
[20:25] <dr_willis> its a very much 'you are on your own' thing
[20:25] <guntbert> Ripper003: read it as "untested" therefor "not supported"
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: maybe but if you start slinging in 3rd party stuff, especially someting as crucial as the kernel. You are asking for trouble
[20:25] <ryao> Ripper003: You might like Gentoo Linux. It lets you do whatever you want with your kernel and the support is the same regardless.
[20:25] <Stimrol_> ActionParsnip: here you go --> http://pastebin.com/2LqvhbhN
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Stimrol_: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin    may help
[20:26] <Ripper003> ryao: 'You might like Gentoo Linux' har de har har that thing I would not touch with a 50yd pole
[20:27] <err-or_> Ripper003: i liket it ;)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: or install Quantal where the 3.5 kernel is fully supported
[20:27] <err-or_> like ^^
[20:27] <Stimrol_> ActionParsnip: already done that
[20:27] <Ripper003> err-or: I was tempted by Sabayon but I can never get used to GNOME3 and KDE is a big nono for me
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Stimrol_: then your output would have shown the adobe-flashplugin package
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: you can install other desktops in those distributions afaik
[20:29] <Stimrol_> ActionParsnip: yes I have gone back again, it did not work
[20:29] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: I've tried that on many distros and the cleanup afterwards is ridiculous, easier just to get the vanilla ISO
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Stimrol_: do you use addons like flashblock in your browser?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: could nistall ubuntu minimal, then install what you desire, rather than carve out what you dislike
[20:30] <Stimrol_> ActionParsnip: no this is a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04, just since earlier today
[20:31] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: I don't think Sabayon has a minimal and Gentoo vanilla would be suicide for me
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: 'ubuntu minimal'  ubuntu does
[20:31] <gordonjcp> it's pretty minimal
[20:32] <Ripper003> naaah I need my fancypants shiny eyecandy
[20:32] <gordonjcp> Ripper003: What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Stimrol_: try:  mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/libflashplayer.so
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: it installs a kernel, bootloader and package apps, you can then install all the worthless eyecandy you desire
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Stimrol_,,then copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:33] <Ripper003> gordonjcp: There's an update in the manager but it won't install because my edition is now tagged as 'Quantal' because I'm using an unofficial kernel version (I think)
[20:33] <BluesKaj> BBL..BBQ needs attention
[20:33] <err-or_> Ripper003: what kind of error?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: yes, exactly. 3rd party stuff can give issues
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: especially something like teh kernel
[20:34] <amac> are there any ati issues with 12.04
[20:34] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: But teh kernel is niiiiiiiiice
[20:34] <err-or_> amac: ati is an issue ;)
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: why do you need it?
[20:34] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:34] <amac> i am thinking of buying an ati 6850. Does it work fine with 12.04?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> amac: should be ok with proprietary drivers
[20:35] <Ripper003> Action-Parsnip: Far improved battery life, keyboard hard-keys are supported and less lag in some apps
[20:35] <Ben64> ati support has gotten a lot better the past year or so
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: then I suggest you wipe Precise out and reinstall with Quantal
[20:35] <amac> i have no issues anymore with my netbook using fusion
[20:35] <amac> so I think I may try out ati now
[20:35] <hermanlf> anyone else using 12.04.1 x64 that has problems installing ubuntu one?
[20:35] <Stimrol_> ActionParsnip: and BluesKaj : ok tried it, did not work, I think my conclusion is that is is the graphic card
[20:35] <rox> bah, lxde is not my cup of tea, back to xfce
[20:35] <gordonjcp> hermanlf: problems like what?
[20:35] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: I'm no good at bug shooting/fixing/reporting so indev versions aren't happening ;P
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: or you could reboot to the offiical kernel, run updates and then boot to the 3rd party kernel
[20:36] <hermanlf> doesn't show me the error anymore but it said it has dependencies that can not be met and won't be installed.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: you have a kernel compiled with who knows what options by some guy from somewhere
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: dosnt install much confidence does it
[20:36] <hermanlf> gordonjcp: This is a clean install too.
[20:37] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: I got it from PPA mainline here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[20:37] <dr_willis> !mainline
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: or you can have the official ubuntu kernel compiled by the ubuntu kernel team at canonical
[20:37] <gordonjcp> hermanlf: have you got any funny PPAs installed?
[20:38] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: or I can have the one that works properly by downloading a few 'unofficial' packages
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: I'd try teh reboot method to ghet updates but personally I'd report bugs with the official kernel
[20:38] <hermanlf> Nope, just installed this OS.  However I did enable canonical partners.  Think that could be it?
[20:38] <err-or_> Ripper003: or compile your own :D
[20:38] <gordonjcp> hermanlf: shouldn't be
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Ripper003: or wipe Precise out and install Quantal pre-release
[20:39] <Ripper003> ActionParsnip: or head over to a different distro camp that's rolling
[20:39] <hermanlf> gordonjcp, oh well, since this is a fresh install I'll try reinstalling the os and just going with defaults to see if it helps.
[20:39] <Samizdat> I cannot get wine to install at all on my 64 bit 12.04
[20:39] <Stimrol_> I have actually been thinking if I could fix this flash problem with going to 12.10
[20:39] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  how are you trying to install it?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> hermanlf: well, before you try that, run the installer again and make a note of the errors *verbatim*
[20:39] <guntbert> hermanlf: !pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client
[20:39] <kieppie> morning all
[20:39] <dr_willis> Stimrol_:  i just use the various flashreplacerplugins and flash-downloader tools. I rarely watch an actual flash video in flash these days
[20:40] <Samizdat> dr_willis:  Via synaptic, terminal or software center.
[20:40] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  so 'sudo apt-get install wine' gives what error?
[20:40] <kieppie> is it possible to to a remote CLI upgrade from 32 to 64 bit? I'm guessing not, but just wanna check
[20:40] <dr_willis> kieppie:  you dont upgrade from 32bit to 64bit at all.
[20:40] <ryao> ripowen32: What is it that youa re trying to do?
[20:40] <Samizdat> dr_willis: ome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to b
[20:41] <hermanlf> gordonjcp, That was my plan, but I unfortantely closed the window with the errors.  To try and get the error back I tried reinstalling ubuntuone.  It didn't show me the error this time.  Only stalled.
[20:41] <dr_willis> You do a clean install of 64bit os.
[20:41] <Stimrol_> thanks for the help people, will put my brothers comp. back to windows :)
[20:41] <Samizdat> I think so.
[20:41] <gordonjcp> hermanlf: can you try something like "sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client" from a terminal?
[20:41] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  and you have done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently?
[20:41] <hermanlf> sure, lemee see
[20:41] <Samizdat> Yeah.
[20:41] <Samizdat> And upgrade, dr_willis
[20:41] <ryao> ActionParsnip: The server install CD seems to use graphics mode. I am trying to install in QEMU using -curses. :/
[20:41] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  how about a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:42] <Samizdat> I'll try.
[20:42] <gordonjcp> ryao: if you're going to use qemu, you may as well use KVM ;-)
[20:42] <ryao> gordonjcp: I am.
[20:42] <kieppie> hi ryao; trying to upgrade my bro's laptop. it's 64-bit hardware, but I noticed it only has 32-bit OS & packages installed.  dr_willis: that's my guess too
[20:42] <hermanlf> gordonjcp, hmm well it says it is installed: "ubuntuone-client is already the newest version."
[20:42] <Samizdat> dr_willis:  Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:42] <gordonjcp> hermanlf: is it possible that it is actually working?
[20:43] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  so you are all updated. You could pastebin the exct output of 'sudo apt-get install wine'  it may give someone in here a clue
[20:43] <err-or_> Ripper003: maybe you could try out arch linux. its more bleeding edge.
[20:43] <Samizdat> Sure.
[20:43] <hermanlf> but the icon in unity is the one giving me the error
[20:43] <gordonjcp> ryao: have you looked at ubuntu-vm-builder yet?
[20:43] <ryao> gordonjcp: No.
[20:44] <hermanlf> where can I set the login options for ubuntuone?
[20:44] <Samizdat> http://pastebin.com/cQ4qrzpT
[20:44] <Samizdat> That's it, dr_willis^
[20:44] <guntbert> hermanlf: there is a special channel for ubuntu one problems: #ubuntuone
[20:44] <Samizdat> Thing is, I don't think I have any broken packages.
[20:44] <hermanlf> k thanks
[20:47] <Vyla2> just a curiosity, the text editor called VI, how is spelled in the US?
[20:47] <Vyla2> like vu - eye ?
[20:47] <dr_willis> 'vi'
[20:47] <kieppie> 6
[20:47] <internetN00b> Gunni, just found out Netbeans can do mysql fine.. it support autocompletion for table names and column names etc
[20:47] <internetN00b> :-)
[20:47] <dr_willis> you mean pronounced?
[20:47] <Vyla2> yep
[20:47] <dr_willis> Vee-Eye
[20:47] <dr_willis> ;)
[20:47] <internetN00b> but netbeans on linux is still ugly as hell
[20:47] <Vyla2> great thanks :)
[20:47] <dr_willis> !info vigor
[20:48] <guntbert> internetN00b: as long as it gets the job done - who cares what it looks like
[20:49] <minimec> internetN00b: Well, you can change that ugliness... http://askubuntu.com/questions/21886/how-can-i-get-a-java-apps-to-use-the-gtk-theme
[20:49] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  do a apt-cache search wine and see if theres some other versions you could install.   could be the packages are just confiused in their names.
[20:50] <dr_willis> Samizdat:  or try the winehq ppa
[20:52] <ryao> Okay, I am booting system rescue cd and doing a debootstrap install. Doing headless installs on Ubuntu the proper way is too complicated.
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ryao: that's basically what ubuntu-vm-builder does
[20:55] <ryao> gordonjcp: It doesn't appear that ubuntu-vm-builder is available on Gentoo.
[20:56] <gordonjcp> ryao: o_O
[20:56] <ryao> gordonjcp: That is my host OS.
[20:56] <gordonjcp> oh, okay
[20:56] <gordonjcp> well, if you're determined to make life hard for yourself...
[20:57] <ryao> I am trying to do a homework assignment where Ubuntu is the reference environment. I don't feel like porting something that I won't care about ever again to Gentoo, so I am trying to install Ubuntu in a VM.
[20:57] <gordonjcp> why not just bung it on a USB stick and boot it?
[20:57] <countley> what is the best program for converting .mp4 to .mp3 in ubuntu please
[20:57] <tonsofpcs> so, anacron runs every 5 seconds or so (and logs itself in syslog)... is there any way to make this stop?
[20:58] <ryao> gordonjcp: My homework is develop part of an operating system.
[20:58] <ryao> gordonjcp: This is kernel programming. The build system depends on Ubuntu.
[20:58] <gordonjcp> ryao: o_O
[20:58] <gordonjcp> ryao: can you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[20:59] <ryao> gordonjcp: Thanks, but I already know what I need to know. There is no easy way to install Ubuntu. :/
[20:59] <zukirep> hello, I'm trying to figure out how to access the bootloader or whatever its called so that I can get into my windows partition
[20:59] <brass> hi all, how do I test opengl?
[20:59] <gordonjcp> ryao: you probably don't need to
[20:59] <dr_willis> !grub2 | zukirep
[20:59] <brass> IE:  to see if it works? besides opening up a game or somethign that uses it.
[21:00] <tonsofpcs> brass: I was always a fan of tuxracer to test gl :)
[21:00] <dr_willis> zukirep:  normally it sees and adds windws entries to the grub menu
[21:00] <gordonjcp> ryao: there's also an incredibly easy way to do what you want, and that's just boot into a live environment off a USB stick ;-)
[21:00] <tonsofpcs> !anacron
[21:00] <zukirep> dr_willis kk
[21:00] <BluesKaj> ryao, you're sadly mistaken .lots of ppl new to linux install ubuntu successfully everyday
[21:00] <brass> recent install of xubuntu.   as in, about a week ago.  nothing opengl is working.
[21:00] <gordonjcp> ryao: furthermore, there's no practical difference between Gentoo and Ubuntu
[21:00] <gordonjcp> ryao: they're both Linux
[21:00] <dr_willis> brass:  amd upir videocard is? what what drivers is it using?
[21:01] <rocky> guys
[21:01] <tonsofpcs> brass: cvideo card? drivers?
[21:01] <zukirep> dr_willis, I've actually used bootrepair already and it didnt seem to help me get into the grub boot menu
[21:01] <dr_willis> brass:  and your. videocard is? what what drivers is it using?
[21:01] <rocky> can i get ituens software in ubuntu?
[21:01] <rocky> can i get itunes software in ubuntu?
[21:01] <tonsofpcs> rocky: I don't believe so.
[21:01] <minimec> brass: for basic chek: 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils' then 'export vblank_mode=0', 'then glxgears' All that in a terminal
[21:01] <dr_willis> zukirep:  you SEE the grub menu? last i looked boot-repair set it to not-auto hide.. or you hold theshift key as you boot
[21:01] <zukirep> dr_willis also, when I hold left shift, it doesnt do anything either although my monitor loses connection with the computer for a little while
[21:01] <ryao> gordonjcp: I'll try using a chroot and see how that goes.
[21:01] <gordonjcp> rocky: no, and it doesn't play nice with Wine either
[21:01] <gordonjcp> ryao: I doubt you even need to go as complex as that
[21:02] <Guest44164> I have a squid on ubuntu question, when can i ask it
[21:02] <rocky> Tonisius, http://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/introduction-to-algorithms/id341597754 this is the site says view in itunes, oops back to windows then
[21:02] <dr_willis> zukirep:  grub is using a res your monitor dosent like. set itto use the TEXT based grub menu in /etc/default/grub
[21:02] <brass> nvidia:  using the "additional Drivers" dialog. I've selected the last one (post-release updates)
[21:02] <gordonjcp> ryao: but #ubuntu-offtopic is a more appropriate place to discuss it, and you've piqued my interest now
[21:02] <minimec> brass: ... or just 'glxinfo' after having installed mesa-utils...
[21:02] <zukirep> dr_willis ok, will do
[21:02] <brass> give me a minute, and I'll tell you my card.
[21:02] <gordonjcp> !ask | Guest44164
[21:02] <brass> mesa-utils?  ok
[21:02] <rocky> Tonisius, gordonjcp thank you gus for responding
[21:02] <dr_willis> brass:  try the reccomended drivers? i dont recall post-reelase ever working for me.
[21:03] <elijah> Hey guys, what is ^A ?
[21:03] <gordonjcp> rocky: proprietary rubbish is annoying ;-)
[21:03] <zukirep> dr_willis, btw should by grub_default = 0?
[21:03] <Guest44164> squid proxy working, but i want transparent proxy, tried several howtos no luck need some advise with my setup
[21:03] <brass> I tried "recomended" first.
[21:04] <WeThePeople> countly, sound converter in the software center
[21:04] <rocky> gordonjcp, got you i won'try then
[21:04] <WeThePeople> countley, see above
[21:04] <gordonjcp> rocky: <cough>bittorrent<cough>
[21:04] <dr_willis> zukirep:  that defaults to the first item in the grub menu.. so yes.
[21:04] <elijah> ^A I am thinking it is ctrl + a but it isn't working so I am not sure if my .tmux.conf file is loading or not
[21:04] <brass> name of display: :0.0
[21:04] <brass> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[21:04] <brass>   Major opcode of failed request:  138 (NV-GLX)
[21:04] <brass>   Minor opcode of failed request:  4 ()
[21:04] <brass>   Resource id in failed request:  0x4000003
[21:04] <FloodBot1> brass: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <brass>   Serial number of failed request:  33
[21:05] <guntbert> Guest44164: if you don't get your answer here, ask in #squid
[21:06] <err-or_> Guest44164: where is your squid running?
[21:06] <brass> Video card:   Gigabyte GeForce 6800GS
[21:07] <muscleman> err-or what do you mean
[21:07] <trism> elijah: what are you trying to do? ctrl+b is the default escape for tmux, but: set -g prefix C-a; unbind-key C-b; bind-key C-a send-prefix; (replacing ; with a newline) in .tmux.conf switches it to ctrl+a
[21:08] <brass> Video card:   Gigabyte GeForce 6800GS
[21:08] <err-or_> muscleman: on which machine is squid running? on a random box in your network on on the gateway to to the internet?
[21:08] <muscleman> its running on 12.04 lts, behind a router
[21:08] <elijah> trism: I copied the default conf file and inside it is not C-a but ^A, I am wondering what ^A means. The default conf file overrides Ctrl-b
[21:09] <trism> elijah: default from where?
[21:09] <muscleman> i have eth1 to wlan, eth0 to lan
[21:09] <share> does the new java 7 security problem affects jre7-openjdk-7.u7 ?
[21:09] <share> affect*
[21:10] <elijah> trism: /usr/share/doc/tmux/examples/screen-keys.conf
[21:10] <trism> elijah: oh I see one in /usr/share/doc/tmux/examples/, yeah I guess ^A is the same, though mine .tmux.conf has C-a
[21:10] <err-or_> muscleman: imho it can't be used on a random machine as transparent proxy. how should the box to be proxied know about it? all the traffic is going straight to your router...
[21:10] <aidanjt> share: no, only oracle and IBM's binaries
[21:11] <elijah> trism: Yorokobi on #tmux just told me how to source the new file though, it works and it appears ^A is Ctrl-a
[21:11] <share> aidanjt: are you sure? thanks :)
[21:11] <aidanjt> share: double checked: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852051
[21:12] <err-or_> muscleman: personally i use a router / firewall like pfsense. there you can setup all the proxying stuff you like. you could use router - pfsense - all the other machines.
[21:13] <err-or_> pfsense is a 'distro' no package to install.
[21:13] <err-or_> but if you want to use your proxy machine as firewall and proxy (only) etc...  go further
[21:15] <internetN00b> I am glad I switched back to Ubuntu :-)
[21:16] <muscleman> this is my first ubuntu distro, been using fedora but had booting, installation issues. ubuntu is nice outta the box
[21:17] <err-or_> muscleman: why do you need transparent proxy? maybe there is a solution easily to setup
[21:18] <err-or_> are there many boxes to proxy?
[21:18] <muscleman> thats the silly thing, only one box
[21:18] <err-or_> your own box? ;)
[21:19] <muscleman> so i could stop configuring and call it done, but in the spirit of gaining knowledge i decided to try transparent approach
[21:19] <err-or_> why you need it? caching windows updates or something?
[21:19] <muscleman> no this is for a business, they have a computer that uses browser for logging in members
[21:19] <err-or_> what kind of router your using?
[21:20] <muscleman> problem is clerk likes to browse internet too, and gets viruses
[21:20] <countley> ok ill try it
[21:20] <muscleman> so they asked me to block everything but one site
[21:20] <muscleman> so i have that working now, just alter my acl in squid.
[21:20] <muscleman> it's a netgear 834
[21:21] <err-or_> you've herad from dansguardian?
[21:21] <err-or_> heard
[21:21] <gordonjcp> yeah, I was about to say, dansguardian is a better fit there
[21:21] <muscleman> i seen it mentioned in several articals
[21:21] <togo> can someone help me not able to watch cnn live video using ubuntu 12.04
[21:22] <muscleman> i mean this is working, just i will have to implement some group policies on the winxp box so connection cannot be altered. and manually add the proxy address
[21:22] <piero> Hi! I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a problem with my hdmi audio througt my amd radeon 6000 series (proprietary fglrx driver installed by jockey). Some times it works, sometimes hdmi doesnt appear in audio properties (not detected??). Someone can show me the light?
[21:23] <muscleman> boy oh boy, linux has come along way since i first installed debian nearly 20 years ago.
[21:24] <gordonjcp> muscleman: just a bit
[21:24] <muscleman> i thought i was quite the geek running in console, and then getting x window to start.
[21:24] <muscleman> lol
[21:25] <muscleman> sorry off topic
[21:25] <Espen_> Having a problem with media keys on spotify, read it should've been fixed already. But is it a spotify issue or ubuntu issue?
[21:25] <Espen_> http://i.imgur.com/XIEDH.png
[21:25] <togo> can someone help me not able to watch cnn live video using ubuntu 12.04
[21:26] <err-or_> muscleman: the descritpion of the router says its usable to restrict internet access. but i don't know how and how far this goes.
[21:26] <Samizdat> Why would you want itunes in ubuntu?
[21:26] <Samizdat> Whoops
[21:26] <err-or_> muscleman: maybe the router could do the stuff you want to do.
[21:26] <dtmbmw325i> hello everyone
[21:27] <octane--> anyone know how to view command line history for a specific user?
[21:27] <err-or_> muscleman: winxp machine is connected wired?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Espen_: its te ubuntu client issue. Do the keys work in other apps ok?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> octane--: less /home/username/.bash_history
[21:28] <octane--> ahh thank you!
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> hi dtmbmw325i
[21:28] <dtmbmw325i> Is it normal for ubuntu with unity to use 1GB of Ram? I have 8GB but am wondering if the RAM usage is normal
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> dtmbmw325i: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; free -m
[21:29] <dtmbmw325i> hello ActionParsnip
[21:29] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: my "history" and my ~/.bash_history don't match??? odd.
[21:30] <err-or_> muscleman: k, that sounds good to me. so xp box is connected wired to the ubuntu box with squid, every other machine connects directly to the wireless router. so you *can* set up transparent proxy. on the ubuntu machine
[21:31] <dtmbmw325i> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/Q1Sri34f
[21:31] <krumpli> hi, i am unable to put utf8 characters in a mysql 5.1 database. what is wrong?
[21:31] <err-or_> muscleman: then lets figure out why transparent proxying isn't working. but still dansguardian would be a guess
[21:31] <Espen_> @ActionParnsnip it works with rhythmbox
[21:34] <dr_willis> !ram | dtmbmw325i
[21:34] <zykotick9> Espen_: fyi IRC != identica/twitter, no need for @
[21:34] <dr_willis> @'s mean somthing totally differnt on IRC.
[21:35] <err-or_> muscleman: http_port 3128 transparent in squid.conf and iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128  to redirect all traffic to squid
[21:35] <Espen_> alright :)
[21:35] <lonejack> the update manager propose to pass to 12.04. During this upgrade, my data or directories like /opt(where I've some packages) will be cleaned(ore removed)?
[21:35] <err-or_> muscleman: edit to your needs
[21:37] <Keybladmaster> Hallo
[21:37] <Keybladmaster> Bin Neu
[21:37] <dtmbmw325i> dr_willis: isn't that saying that 1330 of my ram is being used?
[21:37] <Keybladmaster> WTF
[21:38] <gordonjcp> dtmbmw325i: you want to have quite a bit of RAM used
[21:38] <err-or_> keyblademaster: ubuntu-de ;)
[21:38] <gordonjcp> dtmbmw325i: no point having it if it's not being used
[21:39] <zykotick9> dtmbmw325i: it says 1330 of your ram is being used for buffering
[21:39] <dr_willis> everytime someone comes into this channel worrying about ram.. its from their 'windows' training which dosent apply to linux. ;)
[21:39] <dtmbmw325i> gordonjcp, I use it when running virtualbox machines just not all of the time. My computer would get incredibly slow sometimes when it's not doing anything. I thought the high ram usage might be to blame
[21:40] <zykotick9> dtmbmw325i: 4825 total ram is being used
[21:40] <dtmbmw325i> dr_willis, I will agree. I do come from a major windows background
[21:41] <dtmbmw325i> dr_willis, zykotick9  does my output say what my applications are using or is there a way to find out?
[21:42] <zykotick9> dtmbmw325i: free memory is wasted memory ;)
[21:42] <jasonbourne> need some wireless help if available....
[21:43] <zykotick9> dtmbmw325i: read the atemyram link for more info
[21:43] <aidanjt> dtmbmw325i: start the gnome system monitor and arrange processes by memory
[21:43] <histo> !ask | jasonbourne
[21:43] <gordonjcp> dtmbmw325i: could be a lot of things; could be heavy disk usage
[21:43] <Squall5668> even windows uses superfetch nowadays, it just doesn't report it to the task manager (iirc)
[21:43] <dtmbmw325i> zykotick9, but too much memory can indicate a memory hog. Which is something that is worrying me since my computer is slow sometimes
[21:43] <zykotick9> dtmbmw325i: if MOST of your RAM is used, then your system WILL be slow
[21:44] <zykotick9> dtmbmw325i: VMs that reserve big chunks of memory would certainly slow your system
[21:44] <jasonbourne> ubottu - I totally understand but I didn't want to just jump in first without being polite...
[21:44] <histo> dtmbmw325i: when you start a vm and give it lets say 512mb of ram it will reserve that much ram.
[21:44] <dtmbmw325i> zykotick9, but thats not when my system gets incredibly slow
[21:44] <dtmbmw325i> I would understand that
[21:44] <jasonbourne> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04LTS on my HP laptop and cannot remember how to get my wireless running...
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne: what wifi chip?
[21:45] <histo> jasonbourne: what type of wireless card do you have?  can you type lspci in a terminal and see what chipset it uses
[21:46] <dtmbmw325i> histo, I understand that. I am here asking the question because my computer sometimes gets randomly slow. Nothing hardware or ram intensive running at the time and I see what looks like a lot of ram being used
[21:46] <jasonbourne> that's what I'm trying to figure out...the chipset...I just don't remember the commands to get that info...
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> dtmbmw325i: is the ram healthy?
[21:46] <jasonbourne> histo - thanks...I'll try that...
[21:47] <dtmbmw325i> ActionParsnip, the computer works fine otherwise. I do use windows 7 at times because certain programs I need for school require it and don't work well in a vm environment
[21:48] <dtmbmw325i> ActionParsnip, I will double check it though
[21:48] <jasonbourne> histo - this is what it says: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[21:50] <papna> I closed totem a few minutes ago, but the internet stream I was playing is still playing.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[21:51] <nv> !adi
[21:51] <jasonbourne> ubottu - thanks!!
[21:52] <cbx33> hey peeps
[21:53] <Tyranus> hi
[21:54] <hp__> hello all....xoxox
[21:57] <Tyranus> can i ask a question here?
[21:57] <zykotick9> !ask | Tyranus
[21:58] <Tyranus> which notebooks do you guys use with ubuntu? any recommendation?
[21:58] <zykotick9> !hcl | Tyranus
[22:00] <graingert> !botabuse | graingert
[22:00] <zykotick9> graingert: did you just get the !msgthebot factoid automatically?
[22:01] <graingert> zykotick9: yes
[22:01] <graingert> y
[22:01] <kypor> hello. Just set up Ubuntu 12.10. Is there a way to install the ATI driver?
[22:01] <zykotick9> graingert: cool
[22:01] <zykotick9> kypor: reask in #ubuntu+1
[22:01] <graingert> I just wanted to check what happened on highlight with this app
[22:02] <Areckx> This might helps someone. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1180472/ Did I do this correctly?
[22:02] <kypor> thanks
[22:04] <Areckx> It took 25 gb, but is installing all of the libs like that a good idea?
[22:05] <Areckx> I couldn't figure out what happened to my machine and couldn't find a fix, so I just said to myself, "If I install all of the libs it will probably work better and then I'll take it from there if problems persist."
[22:06] <gloomer> there is no reason you should need to install 25gb of libs
[22:06] <muscleman> how do i remove the guest login
[22:07] <aidanjt> Areckx: http://gourgi.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/re-install-ubuntu-desktop-metapackage-and-reinstall-its-dependencies/ that would have reinstalled the libraries for you
[22:08] <aidanjt> muscleman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[22:08] <histo> !broadcom | jasonbourne
[22:08] <muscleman> thanks
[22:08] <Areckx> aidanjt::  thanks, do you think I should do that anyway?
[22:08] <jasonbourne> ubottu - thanks...I think I got it working now....
[22:08] <graingert> muscleman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[22:08] <histo> jasonbourne: can you plug an ethernet wire in and download the packages you need there.  Or you can use the offline method
[22:09] <histo> jasonbourne: Oh sorry I had the bot send you the message I was away for awhile glad to hear you got it working
[22:09] <aidanjt> Areckx: naw, it would only bog down the filesystem.. just let the package manager handle libraries
[22:09] <jasonbourne> histo - no problem...gonna go wireless now and see if everything is ok...
[22:09] <graingert> aidanjt: bog down the filesystem?
[22:09] <Areckx> aidanjt::  ok, reinstalling now
[22:12] <aidanjt> graingert: eat up inodes and space needlessly, increase btree lookup and application load times etc..
[22:13] <mgj> I was trying to forward port 22 to a new ubuntu box. I have done this many times before, but not on this particular kind of router. Anyway, i ran 'nmap <wan-ip>', and port 22 was not displayed (i assume this means its state is CLOSED) - But when i did the port forward, port 22 showed up in FILTERED state. Can someone explain this to me? Why would it show up as filtered?
[22:13] <Areckx> aidanjt::  I hope this make my workspace run more efficienty
[22:13] <mgj> Ubuntu does not have SELinux or similar, in which i need to allow ssh, correct?
[22:14] <Areckx> port 22 is used to SSH into jailbroken iPhone
[22:14] <Areckx> it is legal
[22:14] <mgj> what
[22:14] <Areckx> might give someone a better idea as to how to address his question
[22:15] <Areckx> mg_::  your question**
[22:15] <aidanjt> mgj: a similar technology, apparmor, but it should come with an ssh profile
[22:15] <Areckx> mg_::
[22:15] <Areckx> mgj::
[22:15] <gordonjcp> mgj: is ssh actually running on the box you're trying to connect to?
[22:15] <mgj> gordonjcp, yes, can access it locally without a problem
[22:15] <mgj> aidanjt, oh... do i need to actually touch apparmor though? I have done this with earlier ubuntu's, it wasnt a requirement on those
[22:16] <mgj> using 12.04 on the box
[22:16] <aidanjt> mgj: I've never had to
[22:16] <mgj> actually when i think about it that cannot be the case
[22:16] <mgj> when i can ssh to it from lan
[22:16] <aidanjt> mgj: routing/firewall problem perhaps?
[22:16] <mgj> Its a very simple home network. Router -> switch -> ubuntu box
[22:17] <mgj> there is only 1 router i can configure. A traceroute to google agrees
[22:17] <raphaelmichael> Hello fellows
[22:17] <mgj> 1st hop is the router, and then it goes to the web
[22:17] <raphaelmichael> My PC is hacked...
[22:17] <curtism> Hello, I am looking to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo IdeaPad U410
[22:17] <raphaelmichael> I am trying to solve this problem for 2 years
[22:18] <dr_willis> gee.. i would think  you would have reinstalled bynow..
[22:18] <raphaelmichael> I hire a bunch of peoples and no one could solve the problem
[22:18] <bekks> raphaelmichael: You have a box thats hacked for two years now? :)
[22:18] <mgj> aidanjt, nmap manfile says "FILTERED" state means : Filtered means that a firewall, filter, or other network obstacle is blocking the port.... But how can it go from CLOSED to FILTERED, by forwarding the port? Makes no sense to me
[22:19] <curtism> I want to keep the W7 install around
[22:19] <raphaelmichael> I do not understand
[22:19] <raphaelmichael> Box?
[22:19] <curtism> How should I go about this and find out if everything is supported
[22:19] <aidanjt> mgj: yeah that shouldn't happen, but I guess the router is bugging on you
[22:19] <raphaelmichael> VirtualBox?
[22:19] <dr_willis> closed means theres no  reply from the port at all.. vs filtered where its sent back a 'rejected'  message?
[22:19] <bekks> raphaelmichael: box == a computer.
[22:19] <raphaelmichael> Yes friend...
[22:20] <mgj> aidanjt, i need to find out why.... but im not sure how
[22:21] <raphaelmichael> Someone from Brazil?
[22:21] <aidanjt> mgj: depends on what router you have, I'd help further but it's pretty late now
[22:21] <jasonbourne> ubottu - you still around??
[22:22] <mgj> aidanjt, thanks for your help so far anyway.... maybe you'll help me more some other day if i dont get this solved
[22:22] <jasonbourne> ubottu - your a real comedian...
[22:22] <raphaelmichael> I need someone to help with my computer. It's hacked.
[22:22] <jasonbourne> ubottu - thanks for your help...wireless is working...
[22:23] <raphaelmichael> Miguel Valentin, where are u from dude?
[22:23] <dtmbmw325i> jasonbourne,  you do know that is a bot right?
[22:23] <raphaelmichael> My Twitter @raphaelmichael
[22:23] <raphaelmichael> Hacked
[22:23] <aidanjt> mgj: no problem.. try poking around google with keywords about your problematic router, never know what you stumble on
[22:24] <jasonbourne> dtmbmw325i - no I didn't...
[22:24] <jasonbourne> but thanx...
[22:24] <raphaelmichael> Someone from France?
[22:24] <jasonbourne> wireless is working now...
[22:24] <dtmbmw325i> awesome!
[22:24] <raphaelmichael> I am from Brazil...
[22:24] <mgj> aidanjt, i have already, i can only find basic posts for "go to 'port forward' -> apply port", noone mentioning any issues so far. Anyway, thanks for your help, i wont keep you from sleeping :)
[22:24] <jasonbourne> haven't been on this channel in a very long time...
[22:24] <bekks> raphaelmichael: Which computer? Your computer at home?
[22:25] <raphaelmichael> bekks : I have 5 computers in a same connection... I think that the connection.. (network) is hacked
[22:25] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - what makes you think so??
[22:25] <raphaelmichael> bekks : My Twitter is hacked too. My life is a living hell, friend.
[22:26] <curtism> Can I find someone to help me install Ubuntu on a Lenovo IdeaPad U410?
[22:26] <jasonbourne> suggest you install Wireshark and start there...
[22:26] <jasonbourne> curtism - Google it...might be faster...
[22:26] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : Because files are changed.. the google research is adultered
[22:26] <curtism> jasonbourne: There is nothing useful
[22:26] <mgj> If 'nmap <ip>' does not output port 22, its means the state of 22 is CLOSED, correct?
[22:26] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : Youtube...
[22:27] <jasonbourne> curtism - ok...guess you tried that already...
[22:27] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - try Wireshark...
[22:27] <raphaelmichael>  raphaelmichael [c9194e39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.25.78.57] has joined #voce_so_pode_estar_brincando
[22:27] <raphaelmichael> WTF FRIENDS?!
[22:27] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - if your trying to find the cause that is...
[22:28] <raphaelmichael> The hacker is make a joke with me
[22:28] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - re-install??
[22:28] <raphaelmichael> I try ti reinstall Jason...
[22:28] <raphaelmichael> Look...
[22:29] <curtism> Okay maybe if I ask something more specific...
[22:29] <matts45acp> can someone help me with my ubuntu server
[22:29] <curtism> First problem: Touchpad does not work
[22:29] <raphaelmichael> has joined #voce_so_pode_estar_brincando MEANS ... you_must_be_kidding
[22:29] <jasonbourne> curtism - understandable....although I hate touchpads...
[22:29] <curtism> That's really nice for you
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> matts45acp, This channel is a state your problem, if someone knows they will answer. :)
[22:29] <curtism> Doesn't help
[22:29] <jasonbourne> curtism - there must be drivers though...
[22:30] <raphaelmichael> If someone wants to hack my computer.. be my guest
[22:30] <jasonbourne> curtism - sorry...not trying to be an ass...
[22:30] <jasonbourne> but that doesn't sound too complicated...someone here should know the procedures...
[22:30] <matts45acp> i have installed ubuntu 12.04 server on an old desktop and now wanna know how to access that computer over my network using the computer that im using
[22:31] <jasonbourne> curtism - have you tried the support forums for Ubuntu...
[22:31] <curtism> I have tried #ubuntu
[22:31] <raphaelmichael> I want to know the best program to protect my network... ?
[22:31] <nv> setup a samba share
[22:31] <jasonbourne> curtism - ok...
[22:31] <curtism> I bet if I asked on the forums they'd ask if I tried #ubuntu
[22:31] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - AppArmor??
[22:31] <raphaelmichael> nv : are u talking to me?
[22:31] <nv> werent u just inviting hackers in?
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> curtism, Hardly I never see that there.
[22:32] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : SELinux is better? I dont know
[22:32] <jasonbourne> curtism - just state that in your post that you came here first...
[22:32] <jasonbourne> SELinux is hardened...so you might want to try that...
[22:32] <raphaelmichael> Yes
[22:32] <raphaelmichael> I am making a invitation
[22:32] <raphaelmichael> Please.. be my guest in my computer
[22:33] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - no thanks...lol...
[22:33] <jasonbourne> I have enough troubles of my own...
[22:33] <jasonbourne> hehehehe...
[22:33] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : 100 bucks? No joke
[22:33] <raphaelmichael> Lol !!!
[22:33] <jasonbourne> HA!!!
[22:33] <raphaelmichael> Lol !!!
[22:33] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - just do a re-install...
[22:33] <jasonbourne> might be easier that way...
[22:34] <raphaelmichael> The mdoglio IS HACKING MY PC !!!
[22:34] <raphaelmichael> No joke guys !!!!
[22:34] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - setup a honeypot on another machine to trap the person....
[22:34] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : I do not understand a thing.. do u have e-mail?
[22:34] <raphaelmichael> 100 bucks. No joke.
[22:35] <matts45acp> i have installed ubuntu 12.04 server on an old desktop and now wanna know how to access that computer over my network using the computer that im using
[22:35] <jasonbourne> sorry not giving that out here...
[22:35] <raphaelmichael> No problem
[22:35] <raphaelmichael> How i setup a honeypot?
[22:35] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - Google it...
[22:35] <nv> install windows and plug it into the internet
[22:35] <jasonbourne> nv - Good one!!
[22:36] <jasonbourne> nv - you mean Windoze!!
[22:36] <bekks> raphaelmichael: Do you have any proof of someone hacking your PC?
[22:36] <raphaelmichael> Yes... bekks
[22:36] <bekks> So share that proof then.
[22:36] <raphaelmichael> I need someone to produce the proof..
[22:36] <jasonbourne> bekks - I know...sounds suspicious to me also...
[22:37] <aguitel> i am in 10.04 when i make last upgrade it say:The following packages have been kept back:
[22:37] <nv> he saw the welcome message from the bot and thinks its a hacker
[22:37] <aguitel>   libexttextcat-data ,why this ?
[22:37] <raphaelmichael> Teach how make the prorf
[22:37] <raphaelmichael> I am here because i dont know
[22:37] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - then install Wireshark
[22:37] <bekks> raphaelmichael: Ok, so you dont have any proof until now.
[22:37] <Samizdat> Hey, I can't install an x86 packages.
[22:37] <raphaelmichael> No bekks.. but I want
[22:37] <raphaelmichael> I need..
[22:37] <nv> that would do as much good as telling him to install snort
[22:37] <raphaelmichael> I try to install snort
[22:37] <Samizdat> Someone said something about multiarch
[22:37] <raphaelmichael> and appear: THIS WEBSITE IS NOT SECURE
[22:38] <bekks> raphaelmichael: Why do you think your computer is being hacked for two years now?
[22:38] <raphaelmichael> bekks : Personal revenge
[22:38] <levander> He must have very interesting computer for someone to spend that long hacking it...
[22:38] <raphaelmichael> My twitter @raphaelmichael
[22:38] <raphaelmichael> Yes
[22:38] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - personal revenge?? then you must know who did it....
[22:38] <bekks> raphaelmichael: Well. A twitter account is not your PC.
[22:38] <raphaelmichael> I do not understand too.. I think someone pay a company to hack me
[22:39] <raphaelmichael> check my twitter and my name
[22:39] <bekks> LOOOL.
[22:39] <raphaelmichael> maybe u understand
[22:39] <raphaelmichael> Lollllllllllllllll
[22:39] <xangua> raphaelmichael: stop that please
[22:39] <raphaelmichael> xangua : why?
[22:40] <nv> i recommend raph, that you pick yourself up a computer manual and start reading.
[22:40] <raphaelmichael> Thankz Nv
[22:40] <raphaelmichael> Someone here know the xangua?
[22:40] <raphaelmichael> I dont
[22:41] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - not much we can do here except provide suggestions...and considering you say it's personal revenge then you must know who it is..
[22:41] <graingert> raphaelmichael: This isn't the right channel for you
[22:41] <raphaelmichael> I know who is.. but if i talk i am dead
[22:41] <raphaelmichael> no joke dude
[22:42] <levander> why would they hack your PC for so long?
[22:42] <jasonbourne> how much Linux experience you have raphaelmichael??
[22:42] <aguitel> i am in 10.04 when i make last upgrade it say:The following packages have been kept back:  libexttextcat-data ,why this ?
[22:42] <graingert> !offtopic | raphaelmichael
[22:42] <raphaelmichael> graingert : Says who?
[22:42] <raphaelmichael> Yes. i do not understand why someone will spend two years in my pc
[22:42] <raphaelmichael> u make a right question
[22:42] <graingert> aguitel: is 10.04 still supported
[22:42] <aguitel> graingert, yes
[22:42] <raphaelmichael> i am here because i dont have any place to go
[22:42] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - how much Linux/Unix experience you have??
[22:43] <zykotick9> graingert: for a few more months <1 year for sure
[22:43] <raphaelmichael> i need help of u guys
[22:43] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : few... Just know how to install..
[22:43] <graingert> raphaelmichael: please leave, you are severly off topic
[22:43] <levander> raphaelmichael: buy a router, connect to the internet through that, all consumer grade routers have firewalls these days, that's all you need to know
[22:43] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - how long is a few??
[22:44] <raphaelmichael> jasonbourne : 1 year..
[22:44] <graingert> aguitel: if you install them directly then it will tell you why
[22:44] <graingert> aguitel: sudo apt-get install libexttextcat-data
[22:44] <raphaelmichael> graingert Make me. Make me. Make me.
[22:44] <md_5> this is embarrassing, stupid sun java set my default java to itself and I can't get openjdk6 back as the default, tried reinstalling it, now don't jave default-java folder
[22:44] <aguitel> graingert, ok
[22:44] <raphaelmichael> Lolllllllllllllllllllllll
[22:44] <graingert> md_5: uninstall sun java?
[22:44] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - taunting the Sysops and other personnel here will get you banned...
[22:45] <md_5> graingert already did
[22:45] <graingert> uhhhhhhhhh
[22:45] <md_5> Now I dont have /usr/lib/jvm/default-java
[22:45] <md_5> and update laternatives doesnt seem to want to make it
[22:45] <raphaelmichael> Sorry guys..
[22:45] <graingert> +b+b+b+b+b
[22:45] <Areckx> Just restarded
[22:45] <Areckx> restarted
[22:45] <Areckx> lmao
[22:45] <jasonbourne> raphaelmichael - this is a support channel...if support is unable to help you then you need to research other options...
[22:45] <raphaelmichael> graingert : are u talk to me? are u talk to me? are u talk to me?
[22:45] <wbwbwbwb> Is there an aircrack channel on freenode? 18:44:53  Waiting for beacon frame (BSSID: xxxxxxxxxx) on channel -118:44:53  mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 6... I can't set the channel to 6... for some reason.
[22:45] <raphaelmichael> Lol
[22:46] <raphaelmichael> Ok I understand
[22:46] <raphaelmichael> You couldnt do nothing. Thankz
[22:46] <graingert> Myrtti: raphaelmichael +kb
[22:46] <raphaelmichael> Do not blame a guy for try
[22:47] <enriq> hi, I need to ls a directory to list all files zzz.mp4 which there is not zzz.flv
[22:47] <raphaelmichael> enriq : Please leave. Its not a support channel
[22:47] <Apwbdjp> Wbwbwbwb, that's probably a disobedient network controler (you often need proper drivers for this), mine stayed locked on -1, before I installed the right module
[22:47] <raphaelmichael> Thank you
[22:47] <bekks> Someone please quiesce that guy finally.
[22:47] <Myrtti> raphaelmichael: stop it
[22:47] <md_5> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for java_vm.
[22:48] <raphaelmichael> @Myrtti Sorry.
[22:48] <graingert> enriq: *.mp4
[22:48] <samuel____> hello guys
[22:48] <aguitel> graingert, when i try to install libexttextcat-data ,later say to remove all libreoffice
[22:48] <graingert> !question | samuel____
[22:48] <Apwbdjp> md_5, did you try removing/reinstalling openjdk?
[22:49] <aknewhope> someone please mention my name. testing nick highlighting in new irc client. thanks
[22:49] <md_5> Apwbdjp yeah I did
[22:49] <graingert> aknewhope: no
[22:49] <Jordan_U> !test | aknewhope
[22:49] <graingert> akgraner: not in this channel, try #freenode
[22:49] <samuel> ok......
[22:49] <aknewhope> graingert, ubottu, Jordan_U: Thanks
[22:50] <raphaelmichael> What is the most security SO?
[22:50] <Apwbdjp> md_5 that's what I did, when gcj took openjdk's place, and it has worked..
[22:50] <md_5> Apwbdjp removing all jdk's
[22:50] <samuel> is it possible to re-add a disk to a raid array without rebuilding?
[22:50] <graingert> raphaelmichael: try google
[22:50] <samuel> also without unmounting the array?
[22:50] <md_5> update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/appletviewer to provide /usr/bin/appletviewer (appletviewer) in auto mode.
[22:50] <md_5> Apwbdjp main thing I need is the default-java folder back
[22:50] <samuel> raid 5
[22:50] <raphaelmichael> graingert : Thankz Larry Paige
[22:51] <samuel> mdadm --add always rebuilds the disk, I need to just add it but can't add it on startup
[22:51]  * samuel thanks dlink
[22:51] <Apwbdjp> I hope someone else can help you md_5, I'm on a phone now, I cant even try or google..
[22:51] <Apwbdjp> Sorry
[22:51] <md_5> Apwbdjp now gcj has taken its place, I'll remove that as well
[22:52] <matts45acp> can someone tell me how to install a virtual machine on my seperate ubuntu server
[22:52] <raphaelmichael> samuel : Lol
[22:52] <raphaelmichael> __Cobbra__BR : Fala amigo!
[22:52] <lidar> matts45acp: virtual machine or virtual host in apache ?
[22:52] <brass> can someone help me with opengl?
[22:52] <samuel> raphaelmichael: you had the same problem?
[22:52] <graingert> brass: #opengl ?
[22:53] <brass> I have xubuntu, nvidia geforce 6800gs using
[22:53] <raphaelmichael> samuel : I think so..
[22:53] <brass> ok, I'll try #opengl
[22:53] <brass> thx
[22:53] <histo> matts45acp: does your server have a gui or just command line only?
[22:53] <bekks> samuel: He has no clue about what you are talking. :)
[22:53] <mgj> aidanjt, i think i found my problem (router, port forward filtering). My router doesnt support nat loopback, i was accessing it on the wan IP from the inside - the router doesnt support that. From internet, it *should* work
[22:53] <samuel> ok
[22:53] <matts45acp> lidar, well what i wanna do is be able to read and write files from my server computer
[22:53] <matts45acp> histo, just has command line
[22:53] <raphaelmichael> What is the utility of Tomoyo?
[22:53] <histo> matts45acp: what just a network share you want to have?
[22:54] <lidar> matts45acp: server is ubuntu what are the other computers running ?
[22:54] <matts45acp> histo yes network share
[22:54] <matts45acp> lidar, all computers running ubuntu 12.04
[22:55] <lidar> matts45acp: setup nfs then
[22:55] <lidar> !nfs
[22:55] <histo> !nfs > matts45acp
[22:55] <raphaelmichael> Alguém do Brasil?
[22:55] <matts45acp> lidar, can you help me with that
[22:56] <lidar> matts45acp: its really easy check that page out then if you get stuck holler back someone will help
[22:56] <bekks> !br | raphaelmichael
[22:56] <raphaelmichael> !br
[22:56] <raphaelmichael> bekks : Eduardo, você é brasileiro?
[22:57] <graingert> brass: http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro-to-modern-OpenGL.-Chapter-4:-Rendering-a-Dynamic-3D-Scene-with-Phong-Shading.html
[22:57] <lidar> matts45acp: the main thing is when you edit fstab dont typo
[22:57] <bekks> raphaelmichael: No.
[22:57] <curtism> I'm trying to get a touchpad working on 12.04, "Primax Electronics" in lsusb
[22:57] <graingert> brass: http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro-to-modern-OpenGL.-Chapter-1:-The-Graphics-Pipeline.html
[22:57]  * md_5 can't wait for debian 7 final
[22:58] <MNIchie> Has anybody here gotten gnome/any GUI to work on an ec2 Ubuntu instance?
[22:58] <matts45acp> lidar, its saying to install nfs kernal server
[22:58] <raphaelmichael> I remember my time on BrasIRC.. BrasNET.... OP.. Server Administrator
[22:58] <GraemeLion> md_5: That..that's what, 5 years from now? :P
[22:58] <Apwbdjp> curtism, does it not work at all, or work for a few seconds until you use the keyboard?
[22:58] <matts45acp> lidar, do i do that on the server computer or the others?
[22:58] <md_5> MNIchie surely sudo apt-get  install gnome should work
[22:58] <curtism> Apwbdjp: Doesn't work at all
[22:58] <lidar> matts45acp: yeah you only need that on the server unless the desktops are exporting shares also
[22:58] <md_5> GraemeLion well yeah I have been using unstable on my server for ages now, want to do a clean install
[22:59] <md_5> frankly ubuntu server sucks'
[22:59] <lidar> matts45acp: i would install it everywhere
[22:59] <nv> synaptics keeps failing. whats the command for a full kde plamsa?
[22:59] <MNIchie> md_5, X cannot detect any screens
[22:59] <md_5> MNIchie xforward
[22:59] <Apwbdjp> curtism, Then you should google 'device name / serie + ubuntu'
[22:59] <histo> matts45acp: you need to install nfs-common on the clients and the server on the server according to the documentation
[23:00] <curtism> Apwbdjp: I tried that
[23:00] <curtism> Apwbdjp: Why would I be in #ubuntu
[23:00] <nv> tried installing opencart on an ubuntu server. that was fail from conception. stupid idea to try
[23:00] <Apwbdjp> curtism, sorry, just eleminating the obvious
[23:01] <histo> curtism: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/usb:0461:4D22/
[23:01] <histo> curtism: I don't know if that's your usb id but you can check with lsusb
[23:01] <md_5> still no default-java symlink
[23:02] <curtism> histo: 0461:4d81 :\
[23:02]  * lidar java is *dying*
[23:02] <GraemeLion> As long as it's the core android dev system, java's not going anywhere :)
[23:03] <md_5> fixed, needed to install default-java-headless
[23:03] <dr_willis> Thought java was reaching new heights of ussage......
[23:03] <matts45acp> lidar its telling me it could not find the nfs kernel server
[23:04] <histo> curtism: yeah i'm not finding much on that touchpad
[23:04] <matts45acp> nevermind i typed it wrong
[23:04] <histo> matts45acp: are you following the documentation?
[23:04] <histo> !touchpad | curtism
[23:04] <matts45acp> histo, yes i just installed
[23:05] <matts45acp> histo, now im lost
[23:06] <matts45acp> histo, should i just enter every command line on there or what?
[23:06] <curtism> histo: `xinput list` doesn't show anything about touchpad :(
[23:06] <histo> matts45acp: I would read it first then decidt
[23:07] <minix2004> Medion Mobile Stick S 4012 not works with ixconn
[23:07] <matts45acp> histo, i really dont understand everything that i need to do
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: run:  lsusb  use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[23:09] <LucasCampos> Hello. I think I have a similar problem to matts45acp. I cannot use multitouch on my mousepad. Also, synclient says I do not have any synaptic driver loaded. I tried using touchegg, but did not work. Here is the output of synclient, lspci and lsusb: http://pastebin.com/qkgJ4FpU
[23:09] <minix2004> sudo lsusb?
[23:10] <LucasCampos> Oh, I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 64bits
[23:11] <minix2004> ActionParsniop: to find guides where?
[23:12] <devslash> 'm thinking about attaching a usb external hard drive to my server to store media. I know that theres no definite answer but typically, how long would a drive last like that if it is connected all the time ?
[23:12] <devslash> forgot to mention, my server is Ubuntu Server
[23:12] <minix2004> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 12d1:1001 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E620 USB Modem
[23:13] <nv> could last for years. i still have some old Conner hard drives (500MB and under) that i have been using as a flash drive since i was in grade school
[23:13] <histo> matts45acp: which part specifically?  There is an nfs server and a nfs clients.  The server needs to be set up first
[23:14] <devslash> nv this drive is 500GB so it'll work fine for my storage needs
[23:14] <nv> read the post again
[23:14] <lidar> matts45acp: histo is right about read first .. i would suggest using  piece of paper put names/ips/folders ect. all together before starting it will save lots of trouble later :)
[23:14] <devslash> nv do you think that would there be a significant different in file access times if its stored on a usb drive vs stored on the server
[23:14] <nv> yes
[23:14] <minix2004> I want to use ixconn for interaction with this webstick. ActionParsnip?
[23:15] <devslash> nv well would it be a significantly longer delay ?
[23:15] <matts45acp> do i have to make folders
[23:16] <matts45acp> i just want that whole drive to read and write to
[23:16] <lidar> matts45acp: directories that you are exporting/mounting
[23:16] <histo> matts45acp: no like in my server I have in my /etc/exports file /srv/Storage 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)  This shares my /srv/Storage folder to my home network.
[23:17] <Black_Daemon> hi!
[23:17] <krababbel> matts45acp: I found iscsi easier to setup, it is faster too
[23:17] <devslash> is there full read/write support for HFS+ file systems in Ubuntu ?
[23:17] <histo> matts45acp: you can share directories that exist already. I would not share the entire root drive. Is it an external drive or something that you want to share?
[23:17] <Black_Daemon> I was wondering if someone could tell me how to see USB drives in a terminal window
[23:17] <krababbel> matts45acp: but only one pc can access an iscsi drive at a time
[23:17] <lidar> matts45acp: thats fine ... server mounts /dev/foo /mnt/share  then the nfs-server exports /mnt/share to the clients which mount it .. its a beutifil system
[23:17] <histo> Black_Daemon: is it mounted and visible in the gui?  If so you should find it's contents in /media/some-long-string
[23:18] <histo> Black_Daemon: if not you have to mount it first
[23:18] <devslash> does anyone know ?
[23:18] <histo> !mount > Black_Daemon
[23:18] <Black_Daemon> hmm OK
[23:19] <Black_Daemon> um, well, I think it's mounted
[23:19] <matts45acp> lidar, can you just tell me what to type to just read and write to that computers hd
[23:19] <Black_Daemon> I mean, I can see it in the gui
[23:19] <histo> matts45acp: which hard drive?
[23:19] <matts45acp> histo, in the server computer
[23:19] <minix2004> ActionParsnip: whats about talk?
[23:19] <histo> matts45acp: I would not share that drive for read and write to all users on the network
[23:20] <theminer> kubuntu
[23:20] <Black_Daemon> I suppose I should get right to the point: I'm trying to use UNetbootin, and I'm not sure... what I'm doing
[23:20] <histo> matts45acp: what is your ultimate goal?  What type of files will you be copying to the server and where are you storing them?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: how do you mean?
[23:20] <lidar> Black_Daemon: download a .iso .. use unetbootin to install it to a usb stick
[23:20] <Black_Daemon> I have an .iso
[23:20] <nv> devslash, depends on the the drive's internal mass storage controller and the USB connection. if it has at least 2 USB plugs for data, no the difference shouldnt be too significant. expect around 18MB/s average write
[23:20] <matts45acp> histo, only me will be accessing this server
[23:21] <devslash> nv ok thanks
[23:21] <histo> matts45acp: what type of files are you trying to copy and where are you putting them?
[23:21] <jboughter> I put over 15GB of space for my copy of Ubuntu. =P
[23:21] <Black_Daemon> I don't know that the "Drive" window is pointing to the right place
[23:21] <matts45acp> histo, i just wanna get it going really simple to play around and learn it
[23:21] <Black_Daemon> which is why I asked how to see it in a terminal window, so I could use cd
[23:21] <matts45acp> if i can just get it where i can see the stuff from my computer i can learn from there
[23:21] <Black_Daemon> maybe I should just hit "ok" and see what happens xD
[23:22] <histo> matts45acp: well I would make it an ssh server and learn to use scp and sftp to move files etc... at first
[23:23] <Black_Daemon> hmm Ok it looks like it's working
[23:23] <Black_Daemon> never mind and thanks for the help! <3
[23:23] <minix2004> AaH: My webstick works fine, but i want to use ixconn for better control. But ixconn not works with Huawei modem E 620 USB modem under linux? You know help?
[23:23] <theminer> histo  that is pretty easy,..just pick a distro and setup ssh
[23:23] <devslash> nv one last question. The most current copy of my music library is stored on my server. my external hard drive is currently formatted as HFS+ and already has most of my  music library. is HFS+ write support easy enough to deal with to save me the hassle of reformatting it ? If I really have to reformat it i will
[23:23] <histo> theminer: he already has a distro
[23:23] <CiscoNinja> !desktop Environment
[23:24] <histo> theminer: infact he's running a server for some reason and doesn't have much linux knowledge
[23:24] <thwest> is there a PPA with protobuf version 2.4.x for 10.04?
[23:24] <theminer> it's a good way to learn
[23:24] <thwest> whats the best search for that
[23:24] <nv> ext2 / ext4 will be much easier to deal with in the long run
[23:24] <histo> matts45acp: Take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889
[23:24] <theminer> remote administering a system via ssh will help learn alot of the commands and how to perform updates etc
[23:24] <devslash> nv if HFS+ write support is stable, I was planning on using rsync to have  the external hard drive library match my current library
[23:24] <CiscoNinja> how do i change from using unity in please
[23:24] <lidar> matts45acp: the nfs page the bot posts is excellent step by step guide btw .. ssh into the server and follow server directions then follow client directions on your desktop(s)
[23:24] <matts45acp> histo, ok heres the deal i installed the nfs on the server, now what do i install on my computer that im using to see this thing
[23:25] <nv> rsync will work with hfs+
[23:25] <devslash> nv well i was thinking of formatting it as FAT32 in case I ever need access on a non-linux machine
[23:25] <Halfalife> Cisco, what DE do you want to switch to?
[23:25] <nv> fat32 is soooo slow
[23:25] <devslash> nv would ext4 give me faster file access times
[23:25] <nv> yes
[23:25] <devslash> hmm
[23:25] <devslash> ok...
[23:25] <lidar> CiscoNinja: install xfce lxde fluxbox .. then logout and pick it before logging back in
[23:25] <devslash> i guess its time for me to format
[23:26] <CiscoNinja> Halfalife, anything recommended other than unity
[23:26] <krababbel> matts45acp: do you want to access a folder or a whole disk?
[23:26] <histo> matts45acp: on the server you need to edit hte /etc/exports  file and specify what you want to share
[23:26] <matts45acp> krababbel, the whole disk for now
[23:26] <histo> matts45acp: on the clients you can mount the shares or brows to the server with nautilus
[23:26] <krababbel> matts45acp: is the os on that disk?
[23:26] <CiscoNinja> lidar, just normal apt-get install xfce
[23:26] <matts45acp> krababbel, yes
[23:26] <histo> krababbel: he want's to share his entire root but doesn't understand the consequences
[23:27] <matts45acp> krababbel, or just one read and write folder
[23:27] <lidar> CiscoNinja: do apt-cache search xfce it will list a bunch of packages
[23:27] <matts45acp> krababbel, just something simple
[23:27] <matts45acp> krababbel, if i can do that and visual see it then i can learn it better
[23:28] <CiscoNinja> lidar, i know , but which one to choose heheheh
[23:28] <matts45acp> krababbel, if i can get that far ill figure it out myself
[23:28] <krababbel> matts45acp: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html Read about server config first, you need to configure nfs server
[23:28] <lidar> matts45acp: if you do that a few clicks of the mouse and your server box needs repaired
[23:28] <krababbel> matts45acp: and yes, choose a folder on the server, like /home
[23:28] <lidar> CiscoNinja: xfce4-desktop maybe i dont remebr if there is a meta package for a desktop
[23:29] <minix2004> I talk about information cost and time of webstick usage. Under windows software works. I copy this text information to ubuntu. But i not  want shutdown and change OS.
[23:29] <matts45acp> krababbel, how do i make this folder
[23:29] <histo> matts45acp: I would create a folder on your server liek /home/matts45acp/share   replace matts45acp with whatever your username is on the server.
[23:29] <histo> matts45acp: mkdir /some/folder/name
[23:29] <krababbel> matts45acp: the folder your files are in, you cannot share the whole drive the os is on
[23:30] <krababbel> matts45acp: if you just want to remotely control the server, use ssh
[23:31] <matts45acp> im already doing ssh
[23:31] <minix2004> ixconn is for that use. But not works with every webstick . . .
[23:31] <histo> matts45acp: you can mount remote folders with ssh as well
[23:31] <jboughter_> Do I have to execute certain applications with scripts?
[23:31] <krababbel> matts45acp: then read the tutorials and set up nfs
[23:33] <CiscoNinja> lidar, i will try xbuntu
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: if its a windows app you won't need it in ubuntu
[23:33] <histo> matts45acp: on your client computer install sshfs using sudo apt-get install sshfs   then you can sshfs username@server.ip.address:/remote/directory ~/localdirector
[23:33] <CiscoNinja> thank you
[23:33] <matts45acp> krababbel, ok i did mkdir /home/myname/share.   now what
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: you can execute most things with scripts, what are you trying to achieve?
[23:34] <matts45acp> krababbel, i want that to read and write from this computer
[23:34] <histo> matts45acp: edit your /etc/exports file and put /home/myname/share ip.range.of.yourlan/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)
[23:34] <nzerox> hey guys
[23:35] <jboughter__> I'm trying to run erm
[23:35] <nv> hi
[23:35] <nzerox> can anyone help me to get an infinity usb umlinited working on 12.04 ?
[23:35] <theminer> sounds more like you need to just read the tuts and learn the commands for moving files back and forth from shares
[23:35] <minix2004> Its information for prepaid stick about balance and internet flatrat-time
[23:35] <histo> matts45acp: liek if your local ips are 192.168.1.xxx you would put 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: sounds like a windows app
[23:35] <jboughter__> Hmmm
[23:35] <jboughter__> I'm trying to download TS3
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: what are you wanting to run?
[23:35] <matts45acp> histo, u have lost me
[23:35] <jboughter__> But it's downloaded by a .run file
[23:35] <histo> matts45acp: On the server you need to edit the /etc/exports   file can you do that?
[23:36] <jboughter__> I think so
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: mark the file as executable and then run the file with sudo, its not dissimilar to a windows setup file, just for linux
[23:36] <matts45acp> histo, yes im just waiting to type the next line, what do i type
[23:36] <minix2004> Windows app --- yes. But i want this information for oneiric directly.
[23:37] <histo> matts45acp: do you know the ip range of your network?
[23:37] <matts45acp> histo, no
[23:37] <minix2004> ixconn is a linux app for that. But not ror every stick
[23:37] <histo> matts45acp: go to another tty or terminal and type in ifconfig
[23:38] <jboughter__> Also Action, I tried running Minecraft on here
[23:38] <matts45acp> ok i done that
[23:38] <jboughter__> I had to excute a script, and the script closed the terminal out
[23:38] <histo> matts45acp: You'll see some output among that will be the ipaddress of the server
[23:39] <histo> matts45acp: the inet addr:   section
[23:39] <matts45acp> histo, im using putty now
[23:39] <matts45acp> im already in the server just waiting to type a command line
[23:40] <histo> matts45acp: So you have to share files  to windows clients?
[23:40] <minix2004> Shure, I come from windows but mostly i use ubuntu oneiric. MacOS is not unfamiliar but this happend in the past.
[23:41] <histo> matts45acp: what ip are you typing into putty to connect to the server with?
[23:41] <matts45acp> histo, 10.0.0.5
[23:42] <histo> matts45acp: okay so in your /etc/exports file you need the line /home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)   on a line
[23:42] <matts45acp> histo, im in there now and have used that to install and do the mkdir folder thing
[23:42] <banjohero> hullo all
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: you can make a file in /usr/share/applications to run minecraft from dash
[23:42] <togo> H,can someone help me i cannot watch or play cnn videos,using ubuntu 12.04
[23:43] <jboughter__> it says i don't have permissions
[23:43] <minix2004> I am not very familiar with terminal window. Problems with where to find information, what type and put in where.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: if you can give the name and path of the .run file (case very sensitive) I can give the command to run it
[23:43] <histo> matts45acp: when you are done save the file. Also you'll want to chmod ugo+wrx /home/myname/share   so everyone has permisions
[23:43] <matts45acp> histo, ok how do i get to /etc/exports
[23:43] <histo> matts45acp: sudo nano /etc/exports
[23:43] <jboughter__> well nvm but i wanna get minecraft right now
[23:43] <jboughter__> also
[23:43] <jboughter__> i just installed jre 7,
[23:43]  * histo bangs his head against a wall
[23:44] <banjohero> can anyone here explain to me why they made ubuntu 12.04 suck?   for example, the virtual terminals seem to have been done away with.
[23:44] <jboughter__> usr/share, then i drag minecraft.jar?
[23:44] <histo> banjohero: no there  not
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: if you copy one of the .desktop file from ~/.config/autostart    you can modify it as you need, you can then copy it in /usr/share/applicvations   and it will be runnable from dash
[23:45] <histo> banjohero: s/they're/there/
[23:45] <jboughter__> wait hold on
[23:45] <jboughter__> can i show you the script i'm using to open minecraft?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: you will need to change the exec line to run the java command you execute to run java
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> jboughter_: sure
[23:45] <banjohero> no, i track, histo....  what I don't get is why they're not there, if they're there.  Shit.  Now I want to work a "their" in there, too.
[23:45] <histo> banjohero: lol
[23:46] <histo> banjohero: tty's are present in 12.04
[23:46] <minix2004> action: for example: name and path of .run file Where to find?
[23:46] <matts45acp> histo, ok i typed that now what
[23:46] <histo> matts45acp: save the file
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: depends where you put it....
[23:46] <matts45acp> histo, save what file
[23:47] <minix2004> action: another example what does putty?
[23:47] <histo> matts45acp: the file you are adding the line to the /etc/exports file Ctrl+x to exit nano it will ask you to save
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: putty is an SSH client, runs pn most OSes
[23:48] <matts45acp> histo, do i type something or just exit
[23:48] <banjohero> no, not ttys;  the virtual terminals - [ctl][alt][F <7] just gives me a blank screen.   Also, what's with the one-pixel goddamn resize borders on windows?  Also, also, I miss my focus-follows-mouse.  Also also also too, they made it look all stupid.
[23:48] <minix2004> what is a SSH client? you use for?
[23:48] <histo> matts45acp: you needed to add the /home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)    in that file
[23:49] <bazhang> banjohero, no cursing here
[23:49] <matts45acp> histo, i have not exit yet, how do  add that
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: connecting to an SSH server, to run commands on the server. With extra options you can run graphical applications and they will show on the client system but execute on the server
[23:49] <histo> matts45acp: just exit the file ctlr+x we'll do it a different way
[23:50] <lidar> histo: will you tell me what to type so i can use my computer in a special way :D
[23:50] <minix2004> remote shell?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: yes
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: as well as other things
[23:50] <banjohero> meh. sorry, whatever.  then, "What's with the one-pixel gosh-darned borders, gee willickers?"   is that better? :P
[23:50] <bazhang> banjohero, this is not the complaints channel
[23:50] <histo> matts45acp: go back to terminal and type sudo echo "/home/myname/share  10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" > /etc/exports
[23:51] <banjohero> @bazhang is there one?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: that won't work
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: sudo doesn't traverse the redirection ;)
[23:51] <histo> ActionParsnip: ahh crap need to use tee then
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: that's the one
[23:51] <histo> matts45acp: nevermind this is beyond explaining in here
[23:51] <bazhang> banjohero, no
[23:52] <histo> matts45acp: you need to read some more tutorials and learn to use the terminal first if you are going to administer a server on your network.
[23:52] <matts45acp> histo, can you just private msg me and help me
[23:52] <histo> matts45acp: I thihnk you first need to figure out what you want to do exactly. you came in here asking about running a virtual machine. Now you just want to share files
[23:53] <banjohero> \tell bazhang it's just mighty frustrating.  I assumed there would be changes, I just did not expect a radical removal of usability.  Who, exactly, is this new ubuntu supposed to appeal to?
[23:53] <matts45acp> histo, i wanna do both
[23:53] <bazhang> banjohero, take the chit chat elsewhere please.  file a usability bug if you wish
[23:53] <bazhang> !bugs | banjohero
[23:54] <minix2004> Aah histo: Where to fo find some more tutorials to learn to use the terminal better?
[23:54] <Goron> Hello #ubuntu, I am a frequent user coming from a Windows background. Lately I have become used to moving my mouse to the left side of the screen to bring the Launcher into view, and when I boot up my Windows partition I frequently find myself moving my mouse to the left side to view a non-existent Launcher.
[23:54] <histo> matts45acp: first you need to learn how to edit a file.
[23:54] <Halfalife> Goron: Move the Start menu to left side.
[23:54] <Halfalife> And set to autohide.
[23:54] <Halfalife> Problem solved.
[23:54] <matts45acp> histo, ok can we go back to the other thing then
[23:54] <Halfalife> Not the exact same, but close enough that it won't throw you off.
[23:55] <histo> minix2004: http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[23:55] <melik_> are there any graphical frontends to iscsi on ubuntu>
[23:55] <histo> matts45acp: not if you can't edit a file
[23:55] <Goron> Halfalife: Does Canonical have any plans to fix this bug?
[23:55] <Halfalife> Which bug?
[23:55] <matts45acp> histo, just tell me what to type
[23:55] <banjohero> Gee, thanks, bazhang.  You're super helpful.
[23:56] <Goron> Halfalife: When I move my mouse to the left side during a Windows boot, I mistakenly expect the Launcher to appear.
[23:56] <Halfalife> That's not a "bug", Goron.
[23:56] <Halfalife> It's just a different user experience.
[23:56] <lidar> echo Goron | sed s/G/M/
[23:56] <Halfalife> ?
[23:57] <Goron> Halfalife: I won't argue, but it appears to me that it is intrinsically related to the software, and therefore a bug. Sorry.
[23:57] <histo> matts45acp: sudo echo "/home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" | tee /etc/exports
[23:57] <Halfalife> Well, the operating systems are different.
[23:57] <vm> how do i increase swap size on ubuntu?
[23:57] <Halfalife> I don't really get what you mean by calling it a bug?
[23:57] <Halfalife> Use a Gparted live Cd and change the size of the partition.
[23:57] <Halfalife> Might be a more elegant way.
[23:57] <Halfalife> But that's one way.
[23:57] <matts45acp> histo, do i put in the " "
[23:57] <histo> matts45acp: sorry typoed that
[23:57] <lidar> vm: you can add a swapfile as well
[23:58] <dr_willis> or add more swap partitions
[23:58] <histo> matts45acp: echo "/home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" | sudo tee /etc/exports
[23:58] <histo> matts45acp: yes with " and the |
[23:58] <Goron> vm: Using gparted is the least invasive way as I understand. You don't have to install a grub launcher or change the master boot record.
[23:58] <histo> matts45acp: echo "/home/myname/share 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)" | sudo tee -a /etc/exports
[23:58] <histo> matts45acp: just copy and paste the last one I typed
[23:58] <histo> matts45acp: change the /home/myname/share appropriately
[23:58] <histo> minix2004: http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[23:59] <tarvid> is NetworkManager fried on Gnome or am I just lucky
[23:59] <dr_willis> ive had no issues with network maanger
[23:59] <Goron> lidar: What did that command do?