[00:17] <leonard> hello guys i am looking for a graphical firewall (iptables) tool ... is kfirewall the way to go or something else like firestarter maybe?
[00:18] <skreech_> firestarter maybe
[00:18] <skreech_>  !firewall
[00:19] <leonard> never heard of guarddog ty
[00:23] <skreech_> Sure
[00:28] <leonard> mhh they all look very old
[02:06] <MrEmerald> Any support people around?
[02:15] <nv> i have seen some knowledgable folks
[02:45] <goodtime> how things here
[02:45] <goodtime> im good
[02:46] <goodtime> heh i guees things aint to busy here
[02:46] <goodtime> guess*
[03:14] <jokerdino> anyone knows which package krunner comes in?
[03:17] <yofel> jokerdino: kde-workspace-bin
[03:17] <jokerdino> thanks.
[03:31] <jokerdino> what is binded to ctrl-f4? i can't use the shortcut in firefox
[04:21] <Daskreech> jokerdino: Changing to the fouth virtual desktop
[04:24] <jokerdino> Daskreech: thanks. just figured.
[04:45] <vivid> anyone knows the solution to the default IM not working?
[04:46] <vivid> that is, it doesnt connect to any services (talk, aim, msn, facebook) and says my passwords are wrong
[04:48] <Daskreech> vivid: Hmm?
[04:48] <Daskreech> what are you connecting with?
[04:48] <vivid> whatever is default, telepathy?
[04:50] <vivid> KDE Telepathy Contact List version 0.5
[04:53] <vivid> bleh, can i get an invite to #kubuntu+1?
[04:53] <Daskreech> What?
[04:53] <Daskreech> there is a #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <Daskreech> no specific one for kubuntu
[04:53] <vivid> oh, says #kubuntu+1 is invite only
[04:53] <Daskreech> Probably cause they want people in #ubuntu+1
[04:54] <Daskreech>  if you are on a 12.10 you can ask in that chan
[04:54] <vivid> ill just browse launchpad, im sure its a "we know its borked" issue
[04:54] <Daskreech> I admire your assuredness
[04:55] <vivid> well, it obviously is borked, i cant imagine nobody has noticed
[05:00] <Daskreech> It could be something peculiar to your setup
[05:00] <Daskreech> I've had that happen before
[05:00] <Daskreech> but hopefully it is well known and you can find a workaround quickly
[05:00] <Daskreech> if not you can always use kopete
[05:01] <vivid> well, if by peculiar you mean completely default kubuntu-desktop, then yes
[05:03] <Daskreech> :-)
[05:09] <phunyguy> So this is interesting.  I have my laptop plugged in, and the CPU is 1200MHz according to /proc/cpuinfo.  I unplug it, my video encode kicks up in speed, and the processor shows 2600 MHz in /proc/cpuinfo.  Is this a known bug?
[05:10] <phunyguy> seems as though the kernel power management is backwards
[05:25] <vivid> Daskreech: apparently it wont work until after you reboot/relog....
[05:25] <Daskreech> vivid: straneg
[05:25] <Daskreech> ge
[05:25] <Daskreech> wjat
[05:26] <Daskreech> phunyguy: what's the CPU rating?
[05:26] <Daskreech> phunyguy: and that doesn't sound all that strange
[05:27] <vivid> /proc/cpuinfo is never correct on my machine.  only i7z shows the correct operating speeds
[05:35] <Daskreech> hi bigbrovar
[05:36] <bigbrovar> Hi Daskreech
[05:36] <Daskreech> How are you?
[05:37] <bigbrovar> Bored which explains why am here lol
[05:38] <bigbrovar> While am here, anyone using Android 4+ ever got mtp working on Linux / kde
[05:39] <Daskreech> Nope trying to get an 4+ device
[05:39] <Daskreech>  tried asking in #android ?
[05:39] <bigbrovar> I built the latest libmtp from git (which is suppose to support the galaxy s3)but the best I got was view content on my sd card
[05:39] <bigbrovar> U are right maybe I should.
[05:40] <vivid> is there a configuration option to display only icons in the task manager?
[05:42] <bigbrovar> vivid: if u are on kde 4.8 there is an alternative task manager which does that
[05:42] <vivid> im on 4.9, but i dont see any additional task manager
[05:42] <bigbrovar> Just remove the default and add icon task (something)
[05:42] <bigbrovar> Can't remember the name now
[05:43] <bigbrovar> U have to use the menu for adding plasmiod widgets
[05:43] <vivid> wow, i must have missed it going through the list
[05:43] <bigbrovar> Just search for icon task (manager.?) I am not on my pc now
[05:44] <Daskreech> I've started using the pinning feature though of course that's not what you want
[05:44] <vivid> i dont know what i want...im just sick of weak environments that only add bugs instead of function
[05:44] <bigbrovar> Just remove the default task list and replace it with the icon one. It's what I use because it also comes with some neat configuration like middle click to close a Window
[05:45] <vivid> *cough* unity
[05:46] <bigbrovar> Daskreech: which pinning feature ?
[05:47] <Daskreech> bigbrovar: You aren't on your computer but if you right click a task entry you can select show launcher when not running
[05:47] <Daskreech> It makes an icon on the taskbar even if there is no instance running
[05:47] <bigbrovar> Oh i use that alot
[05:47] <bigbrovar> Yep I use it alot
[05:47] <Daskreech> smoothtasks is what you are looking for I think vivid
[05:47] <phunyguy> Daskreech, not sure what you mean by CPU rating
[05:47] <bigbrovar> Really neat
[05:47] <vivid> nah i found it, bigbrovar was right
[05:48] <Daskreech> phunyguy: How fast isthe CPU supposed to run?
[05:48] <vivid> i just didnt see it on the big list
[05:48] <phunyguy> Daskreech: 2600.  As soon as I plug the laptop in, the speed drops to 1200.
[05:48] <phunyguy> and the encode drops from 60 FPS to 12.
[05:49] <phunyguy> Daskreech: you would think the CPU would slow down while on battery... not when plugged in.
[05:49] <bigbrovar> Vivid : naming is one area that needs improvement
[05:49] <Daskreech> phunyguy: Ah right yeah that's odd
[05:49] <phunyguy> Core i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz
[05:49] <phunyguy> Ivy Bridge
[05:51] <vivid> phunyguy: did you check the requency with i7z?
[05:51] <vivid> like i said, cat /proc/cpuinfo is always wrong on my system
[05:51] <phunyguy> vivid, the performance clearly drops
[05:51] <vivid> with i5 2500k
[05:51] <phunyguy> which indicates a CPU speed drop.
[05:52] <vivid> id run i7z and see what the cpu speed actually is
[05:52] <phunyguy> and the laptop becomes virtually unuseable during the video encode.
[05:52] <phunyguy> how would I acquire that app
[05:53] <vivid> mine says 3301 mhz, but i can assure you its running at 3999mhz
[05:53] <vivid> code.google.com
[05:53] <phunyguy> vivid, 60 FPS on battery, and 12 FPS on A/C power
[05:53] <phunyguy> can't explain it any better
[05:54] <vivid> what laptop
[05:54] <phunyguy> ThinkPad T430s
[05:56] <phunyguy> I'm sure it's Kernel related, and Ubuntu is always behind on the kernel releases
[05:58] <Daskreech> Everyone is behind on kernel releases
[05:58] <vivid> eh, 3.5.0 is the current release?
[05:59] <vivid> i know 3.6.0 is at rc4...
[05:59] <phunyguy> I am on 12.04 (3.2 kernel)
[06:00] <vivid> 3.5.0 here, but i dont have to worry about power management
[06:00] <vivid> my i7 laptop behaves as expected on battery too
[06:01] <phunyguy> are you on 12.10? or did you install the newer kernel?
[06:01] <vivid> yes, 12.10
[06:01] <phunyguy> run ok?
[06:02] <vivid> they probably have a backported kernel though
[06:02] <phunyguy> if it is fairly stable I may upgrade.
[06:02] <vivid> uh, it runs fine if youre fairly decent with linux
[06:02] <phunyguy> I am, but get tired of fixing things.
[06:02] <vivid> have to sidestep the broken nouveau and get nvidia-current
[06:02] <vivid> thats about the only issue really, thus far
[06:02] <phunyguy> intel video here.
[06:02] <vivid> tons of mesa updates in 12.10 too
[06:03] <vivid> thanks to valve
[06:03] <phunyguy> I guess 2 months early isn't too much to ask.
[06:03] <phunyguy> this is a fairly new laptop.
[06:03] <vivid> you could always try a daily live cd
[06:03] <phunyguy> So I had wondered when an issue like this would crop up.
[06:03] <phunyguy> I could..
[06:03] <bazhang> 12.10 is next month
[06:03] <phunyguy> end of the month, no?
[06:03] <vivid> next month, but still about two months away
[06:03] <bazhang> or thereabouts
[06:03] <phunyguy> which is nearly 2 months
[06:04] <vivid> 10/22 or 10/28 i think
[06:04] <bazhang> but mostly frozen/finalized well before that
[06:04] <vivid> im all excited to get away from unity
[06:04] <vivid> i feel like my DE works now and i can get some work done after i get used to it
[06:04] <bazhang> thats doable now
[06:05] <vivid> not to mention plasma is clean, highly customizable, and functional
[06:05] <phunyguy> yeah I ditched KDE for a while in favor of Unity, but learned the error of my ways.
[06:05] <bazhang> !find netbook
[06:07] <vivid> still a few things i have to get used to, its been a long time since i used kde
[06:08] <phunyguy> I did try the daily recently, but I cant remember why I reverted.
[06:09] <phunyguy> Actually, I think it was because I had stability issues
[06:10] <phunyguy> kinda nervous to try again
[06:10] <vivid> it was completely broken about four days ago
[06:10] <vivid> thanks to xorg 1.13
[06:10] <phunyguy> lol
[06:24] <phunyguy> holy oversized ISO
[06:24] <phunyguy> =P
[06:31] <SaCruM> Hi there. Couls someone help me? I had a issue so i had to reinstall kubuntu. All fine, but now for no reason, it asks me for the password everytime i login for keyring. How can i disable that? :S
[06:31] <phunyguy> set a null keyring password
[06:31] <phunyguy> inititially.
[06:32] <SaCruM> how is that?
[06:32] <nv> its asking for permission to connect to the network.
[06:33] <SaCruM> i'm using KDE and this happened after installing ubuntu one.
[06:33] <phunyguy> yes, and the wifi password is store there.
[06:33] <SaCruM> nv: usually that is kwallet, not keyring
[06:33] <phunyguy> ahh gnome keyring
[06:33] <phunyguy> yes you are correct
[06:33] <phunyguy> still, null password
[06:33] <SaCruM> if i uninstall ubuntu one it will fix it?
[06:33] <phunyguy> possibly, if it will autoremove gnome-keyring
[06:34] <SaCruM> phunyguy: what's null password? :x
[06:34] <phunyguy> null = empty
[06:34] <phunyguy> when it asks to set a password initially, just keep them blank
[06:35] <phunyguy> it will get upset and ask if you are sure
[06:35] <phunyguy> just say yes.
[06:35] <SaCruM> and is that safe to use anyway? I mean, i'm the only user on this computer.
[06:35] <phunyguy> yes
[06:35] <SaCruM> But still, its safe to use ubuntu one without that pass?
[06:36] <phunyguy> thats the password for keyring, not ubuntu one
[06:36] <phunyguy> keyring stores your passwords
[06:36] <SaCruM> its like  kwallet?
[06:36] <phunyguy> yes.
[06:36] <SaCruM> ohhhh, its possible to remove it?
[06:36] <SaCruM> i don't need it..
[06:36] <phunyguy> probably but that will remove ubuntu-one
[06:36] <SaCruM> in fact i don't even need kwallet lol
[06:36] <SaCruM> oh, i see..
[06:36] <SaCruM> i'll just null it then :)
[06:36] <phunyguy> its obviously a dependency
[06:37] <phunyguy> :P
[06:37] <SaCruM> it will continue to store my passwords?
[06:38] <phunyguy> yes.
[06:38] <SaCruM> so.... if i lose my pc, people will have access to my passwords? >.<
[06:38] <phunyguy> its risky
[06:38] <phunyguy> your call.
[06:39] <SaCruM> well, people have access to my password on kwallet anyway, right?
[06:39] <phunyguy> probably if its null
[06:39] <SaCruM> it isn't null.
[06:39] <phunyguy> does your laptop autologin?
[06:39] <SaCruM> nope
[06:39] <phunyguy> lock with screensaver?
[06:39] <SaCruM> yes
[06:39] <phunyguy> then you should be fairly safe.
[06:40] <phunyguy> i doubt someone that steals a laptop is linux-savvy
[06:40] <SaCruM> true ahah
[06:40] <phunyguy> probably crack-savvy though
[06:41] <SaCruM> how can i open keyring anyway? if i search that name i have no results.
[06:41] <SaCruM> i can't find an app called keyring :x
[06:42] <phunyguy> gnome-keyring
[06:43] <phunyguy> bbiab, restarting into 12.10 livecd
[06:43] <SaCruM> ok. ty
[06:43] <SaCruM> is 12.10 out already??
[06:43] <nv> not yet
[06:43] <nv> next month
[06:43] <SaCruM> will be much difference?
[06:43] <SaCruM> different*
[06:43] <SaCruM> new feautres?
[06:44] <SaCruM> features*
[06:44] <nv> havent tried the release candidate, but you can if you want
[06:44] <SaCruM> where can i read the new features of 12.10?
[06:45] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for discussion of 12.10 SaCruM
[06:54] <nv> cant talk about the new upcomming jubuntu in the kubuntu chat?
[06:55] <nv> lol jewbuntu
[07:52] <phunyguy> I just realized why I reverted back to 12.04.  CIFS not working right
[07:52] <phunyguy> ><
[09:38] <mundo> k
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:41] <lordievader> I have a 7 button mouse, in firefox the buttons for forward and backward simply work, is there a way to make dolphin listen to these buttons too?
[11:36] <gino_> hello
[11:36] <gino_> sudo apt-get install life
[11:36] <gino_> hahaha
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <genupulas> i dont have network applet in kde panel . how can i add it ?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> genupulas, do you mean the network manager icon , if so right click in the syatem tray and choose settings, the in entries choose always visiable for network manager
[12:22] <BluesKaj> err always visible
[12:24] <genupulas> BluesKaj:  yeah got it . thank you . I am pretty new
[12:24] <BluesKaj> genupulas, np
[12:24] <genupulas> :D
[13:11] <skreech_> lordievader: xev should be your friend I think
[13:30] <leo_> k
[13:31] <lordievader> Daskreech: xev?
[13:32] <Daskreech> leo_: lo
[13:32] <Daskreech> lordievader: Yes it's a X binary that notifies about events like button presses
[13:32] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech , do you xevil and games of that sort ?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> mean
[13:32] <Daskreech> you can press the button and use xev to see which button is pressed then assign that button to an action
[13:32] <lordievader> Daskreech: How do you come to this?
[13:33] <lordievader> Daskreech: As a response to the dolphin thing?
[13:33] <Daskreech> lordievader: yes
[13:33] <lordievader> Strange thing is, I noticed at times it does work and at others it doesn't...
[13:34] <leo_> hey guys im using kdm and how can i make kdm prompt only passwd
[13:34] <leo_> not username
[13:35] <leo_> i mean how to set a default user without selecting a
[13:36] <leo_> user name from list or entering a user name
[13:36] <leo_> is there any way to do that
[13:40] <lordievader> leo_: Not entirely sure if you mean this but anyhow: Go to system settings -> Login Screen -> Convenience and then look under Preselected User.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> leo_, are you on 12.10?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> 12.10 here , and I had to switch from lightdm , which is now the default for KDE as well , because it crashes and requires a tty login
[13:42] <leo_> lordievader: but in that case the user name will be shown at login screen ..i don't want to show the user name filed,,i need only passwd field
[13:42] <leo_> BluesKaj:am using 12.04
[13:43] <BluesKaj> leo_, sorry I misunderstood , you don't want your username to show ,ok
[13:43] <lordievader> leo_: I see, what might work is set-up the preselected user, and then create a theme in which you remove the user-name field.
[13:44] <Daskreech> leo_: what are you trying to avoid?
[13:45] <leo_> lordievader:but when i do that i got the error can't parse xml
[13:45] <lordievader> leo_: Perhaps there is an error in the theme xml file.
[13:46] <leo_> Daskreech:iam trying to avoid showing username field at login screen
[13:46] <leo_> Daskreech:i need only passwd field
[13:47] <leo_> lordievader:http://paste.kde.org/542954/ this is my xml
[13:47] <Daskreech> leo_: I understand that. I'm asking why is it detrimental that you can change the user?
[13:48] <leo_> lordievader:and when i remove pw-entry item i got error
[13:50] <lordievader> leo_: You want to remove the user field right? Then you should remove the user-entry item.
[13:52] <leo_> lordievader:sry ...i removed the user-entry item not pw-entry but it shows error" the theme is not usable with Username+password (classic)"
[13:53] <leo_> lordievader:and a new login screen appears and prompt for username and passwd
[13:53] <lordievader> leo_: Ok, so that field needs to be present, perhaps there is another way to make it invisible.
[13:54] <lordievader> leo_: You could throw it off the screen, or make the width/height 0.
[13:56] <leo_> lordievader:thanks its worked
[13:56] <leo_> lordievader:thank u boss
[13:56] <lordievader> leo_: Great!
[13:58] <Roey> hello
[13:59] <Roey> how can I get Kubuntu to support my Wacom Intuos 5?  In trying to build the driver from the LinuxWacom source, I get that my kernel version is not supported (3.2.0-29)
[14:00] <Daskreech> !wacom
[14:01] <Daskreech> Awww
[14:02] <Roey> ayup
[14:02] <Roey> heya Daskreech
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !tablet
[14:06]  * BluesKaj wonders what's happened to important factoids
[14:07] <Roey> aha! see, nothing written yet
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !info wacom
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !info tablet
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Roey, could be under a different name
[14:12] <ikonia> the package won't be called talbet
[14:12] <Roey> !info linuxwacom
[14:12] <ikonia> it's an xorg module
[14:12] <Roey> and a kernel module.
[14:12] <Roey> the thing is, I do not know if hte kernel module is up to date with the linuxwacom project's kernel module version
[14:13] <ikonia> there isn't a big delay with syncs
[14:13] <Roey> but this is dumb... I got this wacom intuos5 tablet back in March, and it's September now and still doesn't work
[14:13] <ikonia> I believe it's reasonable in sync with the kernel
[14:13] <ikonia> why is it shocking that it doesn't work ?
[14:13] <Roey> well after six months??
[14:14] <ikonia> so ?
[14:14] <ikonia> I don't understand why time is a factor
[14:15] <Roey> ok
[14:16] <ikonia> (apologies if I'm missing part of the question that time is a factor)
[14:16] <Roey> whatever the reason, I want my tablet to work.  Now, I try the "wacom" module and see that the kernel isn't detecting it when I plug it in.  USB device detected, but..nothing more specific than that.
[14:17] <ikonia> 1.) have you checked the kernel module is loaded 2.) have you checked the xorg module is installed and detected 3.) have you confifmed the xorg module is loaded if 2.) is valid. ? 4.) have you actually checked the support for your device in linux or are you just hoping it will work
[14:21] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:22] <Roey> ikonia:  yes I have, and I checked with dmesg and looked at /var/log/syslog.
[14:22] <ikonia> Roey: so what are the answers to the 4 questions
[14:22] <Roey> 1) yes
[14:23] <Roey> 2, 3)  how  can I verify this
[14:23] <Roey> 4) yes, with dmesg
[14:23] <ikonia> Roey: I'll re-rephrase the questions
[14:23] <ikonia> 1.) if you have checked for the kernel module being loaded....is it being loaded
[14:23] <ikonia> 2./3. you'll see in the xorg log
[14:24] <ikonia> 4.) dmesg does not tell you anything about if it's a supported device on linux
[14:24] <Roey> ikonia:  lsmod says "wacom" is loaded.
[14:24] <ikonia> I'm talking about have you researched the device to see if it has any linux support, and if it does what are the restrictions (if any) on it. Or are you just hopinh it will work
[14:25] <Roey> ikonia:  yes it does have support.
[14:25] <ikonia> ok, what are the restrictions/requirements for it to work ?
[14:26] <Roey> ikonia:  I've had this working before by compiling the project's source
[14:26] <Roey> ikonia:  well ./configure says kernel 3.2.0-29 is not supported.
[14:26] <ikonia> so have you actually researched it to find out what it needed/requires ?
[14:26] <ikonia> ok, I've lost interest as you're just doing things blind
[14:26] <Roey> ikonia:  well yeah I've been on #linuxwacom
[14:26] <Roey> what???
[14:27] <Roey> ikonia:  I'm telling you what I'm encountering when I'm trying to make it work
[14:27] <ikonia> yeah, and I've asked you for things to check and have you checked things such as it's support, it's requirements, and you've saying "yeah, I've typed configure"
[14:27] <ikonia> that's not really a.) doing research b.) answering the questions
[14:28] <ikonia> so I'm not interested at this time in pushing it forward.
[14:28] <Roey> alright.  I'll talk to you when we're a little more level-headed.
[14:28] <ikonia> I'm level headed now.
[14:29] <Roey> then help me out in a methodical way, not just shunning me.  I've asked about 3.2.0-29 not supported on #linuxwacom, but got no response.
[14:30] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I dont want to progress it, I've given you information to check, and asked questions about what you've done
[14:30] <Roey> how can I find out its requirements particular for 3.2.0, aside from googling for 3.2.0 linuxwacom
[14:30] <Roey> ok:
[14:30] <Roey> lsmod  | grep wacom
[14:30] <raju> how can i add extract here option in right click menu ?
[14:30] <ikonia> I've asked if you've found requirements and you've said "yes it's supported, I've typed configure" - that's not doing any of what I said
[14:30] <Roey> lshw <-- looked for anything resembling Wacom
[14:30] <ikonia> that doesn't meant it's supported
[14:30] <ikonia> that's just device ID's
[14:30] <Roey> ikonia:  alright.  I will re-phrase my answer to that, then:
[14:31] <ikonia> so research the device if you've been battling with it to 6 months
[14:31] <Roey> I had it compiling under the previous Kubuntu release.
[14:31] <ikonia> find out if it's supported, if it is, find out what it's support requirements are, then work out if ubuntu meets them
[14:31] <ikonia> ok, again, I'm out now, as blindly compiling things is just pointless as the previous release has changed to the current, so knowing the support requirements will tell you why it's not working rather than just blindly typing configure and being stumped
[14:32] <Roey> Hmm.
[14:34] <Roey> hey BluesKaj
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hi Roey
[14:35] <Roey> ikonia:  "knowing the support requirements".  That's pretty broad.. I /can/ tell you what the output of dmesg says when I plug the tablet in.
[14:35] <ikonia> Roey: I've told you dmesg !=support
[14:35] <ikonia> Roey: researching the device what hardware it requires, what software and versions it requires to work etc, if it works but can't do X Y Z for example
[14:36] <Roey> ok
[14:36] <Roey> I will ask the #linuxwacom folks
[14:36] <ikonia> common sense stuff, understanding what it needs to work, so you can see if your OS meets them, and understanding any problems so you are not suprised if function $A doesn't wor
[14:36] <ikonia> Roey: no
[14:36] <ikonia> Roey: research
[14:36] <ikonia> approach it how you want
[14:36] <ikonia> I'm done
[14:48] <Belial`> i installed calligra and removed libreoffice however there's still an entry that opens libreoffice from the kickoff menu. how do i completely remove libreoffice?
[14:48] <Belial`> i checked in muon and everything points to it being uninstalled.
[14:55] <yasaswi_> Hi to develop kde games which libs are required
[14:56] <RamchandraApte> libkdegames
[15:41] <datruth> Is there a command that I could use with amixer to set the master channel?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> datruth, open a terminal and type alsamixer ,
[15:51] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM,
[15:51] <BluesKaj>  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[15:52] <datruth> BluesKaj: I want to do this with a script?
[15:52] <datruth> and hot key
[15:53] <BluesKaj> well , have fun exploring that one ..I prefer the terminal
[15:53] <monkeyjuice> BluesKaj:  you told me once how to boost volume on my laptop , do you remeber what that was , just install 12.04 and reloading everything
[15:54] <datruth> BluesKaj: I can do it in the terminal or gui but when I use my hot key to switch devices the volume control doesn't switch with it
[15:56] <BluesKaj> setup alsamixer with both , and use pavucontrol if alsamixer settings don't stick  , datruth , you may have to install pavucontrol
[15:57] <datruth> installing
[15:58] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, I think it was with alsamixer, master ctrl and up arrow key
[15:59] <monkeyjuice> hmmm its at 100% i need more was able to get to 150 with what ever it was
[16:00] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice, probly pavucontrol
[16:01] <monkeyjuice> ok ill try that
[16:04] <monkeyjuice> yep thats it got 153% now thanks
[16:06] <datruth> BluesKaj: that lets me set the sound higher than 100% put thats what I need I need to be able to toggle the volume controls
[16:09] <BluesKaj> yeah , pavucontrol gives switching IO options ...been looking at jack as well , I think it can switch IOs  as well , but it seems kinda clunky and complicated
[16:10] <datruth> BluesKaj: no optios can be passed for that in the terminal
[16:12] <BluesKaj> datruth, you can choose different soundards if that's what you mean , but it's best done in pavucontrol
[16:13] <BluesKaj> and phonon
[16:25] <datruth> BluesKaj: damn I guess I'll have to manually change the master channel to control the volume every time I switch devices
[16:25] <BluesKaj> which devices , datruth ?
[16:26] <datruth> BluesKaj: I have HDMI audio and my laptop built in speakers
[16:27] <datruth> when I switch my to my hdmi I have to select it has the master channel to so I can control the volume
[16:29] <BluesKaj> datruth, you can setup the hdmi and analog stereo in phonon and pavucontrol . it doesn' matter if the hdmi is feeding a signal simultaneously with the analog output
[16:31] <BluesKaj> use the analog as Card0 , and hdmi as Card1 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:35] <datruth> BluesKaj: the volume controls do not switch over
[16:35] <datruth> Here let me show you
[16:35] <datruth> http://pastebin.com/0yuBzJ2D
[16:36] <datruth> This is the script I tie it to a hot key ctrl + g lets say it switches the devices
[16:36] <datruth> but not the volume control
[16:38] <BluesKaj> datruth, do you have both devices setup in pavucontrol ?
[16:38] <datruth> I'm not sure how you mean
[16:39] <datruth> I changed the volumes with that program but not sure what you mean by setup
[16:40] <BluesKaj> datruth, did you install pavucontrol or are you relying on the script , seems both devices are using the same vol ctrl
[16:41] <BluesKaj> at least they should
[16:42] <datruth> BluesKaj: I'd like to use the script
[16:42] <datruth> pavucontrol I've laoded but it only allow me to make the volume higher than 100%
[16:42] <datruth> I just want to be able to switch the volume controls
[16:43] <BluesKaj> then I don't know how to help , perhaps someone who has knowledge of scripting can help you
[16:43] <datruth> So the question is how can I set a master channel in the terminal
[16:43] <datruth> BluesKaj: is there away to do that in the terminal setting the master channel?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> datruth, I've mentioned this several times , install pavucontrol if wish to to switch devices , if your script won't give access to the vol ctrl
[16:46] <datruth> alright in that case I dont need pavucontrol since the kde controls work I just have to manually set them
[16:46] <datruth> thx for the info
[16:54] <BluesKaj> datruth, looks to me like you need to set the" line " in alsamixer to 90% or more
[16:55] <BluesKaj> since your script is switching to" line" for analog output
[17:02] <datruth> BluesKaj: hrmm
[17:02] <datruth> BluesKaj: switching to line is this correct/
[17:02] <datruth> ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> then run sudo alsactl store
[17:02] <BluesKaj> tha's what it looks like to me
[17:03] <BluesKaj> do you have a vol ctrl on your speaker system ?
[17:04] <datruth> yes
[17:05] <datruth> and I have to click on that to select the master channel then I can control the volume on the sound device im on
[17:06] <datruth> itd be nice if there was a command that did that
[17:07] <dougl> can anyone suggest a source for a mame frontend that works in kubuntu 12.04?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> I have only one audio system , the coax spdif and hdmi feed separate devices , but both feeds are connected to ab audio amplifier which simplifies things
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dougl, http://gmameui.sourceforge.net/
[17:12] <skreech_> !mame
[17:12] <skreech_> Curses
[17:12] <skreech_> !find mame
[17:13] <skreech_> Really? Only sdl-mame?
[17:13] <skreech_> !info sdlmame
[17:13] <skreech_> ha
[17:13] <skreech_> !info mame
[17:15] <dougl> BluesKaj, thanks for the tip...
[17:25] <BluesKaj> dougl, is it what you're looking for ?
[17:25] <dougl> BluesKaj, you have experience with gmameui? mine fails to 'make' = undefined reference to `archive_read_data_into_buffer'... yes exactly what I been looking for but does not work
[17:26] <dougl> I have googled full circle for solutions for my working cli mame...
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ok sorry to hear that , and I have no experience with mame
[17:27] <BluesKaj> dougl, build-essential for compiling
[17:28] <dougl> build-essential for compiling = ?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> does the app need to be compiled from source , with make or camake or some such builder?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> err cmake
[17:31] <dougl> yes ./configure make and make install...
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ok then you need build essential for that , don't think it's installed by default
[17:32] <dougl> oh - do tell... err, is it something I should google?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> nope , it's in the repos , sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:34] <dougl> thanks
[18:05] <gryzli> Hello guys
[18:06] <gryzli> I have weired problem on Kubuntu 12.04
[18:06] <gryzli> After running the os for a while , suddenly my usb mouse stop working on the usb port it's connected
[18:07] <gryzli> After I connect the mouse to second usb ports it works for some time, then stoped again
[18:08] <gryzli> Also there are some errors in dmesg , "usb 1-1.1: device descriptor read/8, error -110" ......."hub 1-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1"
[18:08] <gryzli> any ideas /
[18:08] <Smurphy> gryzli: mouse goes to power save ? or USB Bus goes to power save ?
[18:08] <Smurphy> check poewrsaving options. Eventually a "dmesg" output will tell you what happens
[18:08] <gryzli> I pasted some of the dmesg errors
[18:09] <gryzli> after going through all of the usb ports, now it doesn't work on any of them
[18:10] <gryzli> Some hints how can I restart the usb controller ?
[18:10] <Smurphy> I had that once... But don't remember what then issue was.
[18:10] <Smurphy> you can't. It's a driver issue.
[18:10] <gryzli> It seems in 12.04 the usb driver is static linked in the kernel ?
[18:10] <Smurphy> Try out: rmmod usbhid
[18:10] <gryzli> there's no ehci_usb
[18:10] <Smurphy> modprobe usbhid
[18:10] <gryzli> k sec
[18:11] <Smurphy> that should reload the usbhid drivers. Eventually it will reinitialize the usb bus.
[18:11] <gryzli> nothings comes up
[18:12] <gryzli> usb 1-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[18:14] <Smurphy> that is bad ... You have a USB Drive connected to it ?
[18:15] <gryzli> no
[18:15] <gryzli> just the mouse
[18:15] <gryzli> if I restart the machine
[18:15] <gryzli> everything works fine
[18:15] <Smurphy> shouldn't happen. That is a disk error message. device descriptors are hard disk issues.
[18:18] <Smurphy> seems the power to the USB Bus is low. Can also be a hardware bug though.
[18:22] <gryzli> strange
[18:48] <leonard> /join #qt
[18:49] <leonard> \join #qt
[18:49] <leonard> wtf
[18:49] <leonard> sry
[18:49] <FloodBotK1> leonard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <leonard> hehe yes bot i wont
[18:56] <brendan_> hi
[18:57] <EinGolem> I'm trying to install windows xp in VirtualBox, but it just stops at one of the last phases 'Regisering components'. Anyone know what I can do?
[18:57] <EinGolem> I've retried t 3 times, now.
[18:57] <BluesKaj> ein did you give it enough space in the virtual drive ?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> EinGolem, ^
[18:59] <EinGolem> Well, I gave it 3.3gb it recommended less than that.
[18:59] <EinGolem> I'm running of a 16gb usb drive. I have no hard disk.
[19:01] <BluesKaj> never tried VB on a usb drive ...no experience with it'
[19:02] <EinGolem> It's a disgrace, I know. But it's all I got right now.
[19:02] <EinGolem> Can't get any IDE hdd in the shops, only sata and sata II.
[19:04] <EinGolem> lol.
[19:16] <BluesKaj> EinGolem, you can buy adapters , but most mobos made in the last 7 yrs have at least one sata connecter
[19:16] <BluesKaj> check your board  more closely
[19:20] <BluesKaj> or do an lspci in the terminal, EinGolem
[19:20] <olpe> Good evening. I noticed that if you do a FRESH Kubuntu install right now, and do (out of the box) apt-get update && upgrade, you end up in a blackhole loop with kate-data
[19:21] <olpe> http://pastebin.com/XCGaSd45
[19:22] <shumski> olpe:  Input/output error
[19:22] <shumski> try doing sudo apt-get clean
[19:23] <olpe> shumski: same thing --> http://pastebin.com/wSQ51uG8
[19:24] <EinGolem> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/fCVJpvAp
[19:24] <EinGolem> from lspci command.
[19:24] <EinGolem> BluesKaj: If my comp has a sata connection, I'd be very happy. I bought this eMachines420, in 2004.
[19:25] <EinGolem> I'll have ti take a look then, later. I hope it does have one.
[19:25] <olpe> is there a dedicated channel for package bug things, or am I in a right place with my problem?
[19:26] <shumski> olpe: try doing first sudo dpkg --force-all -P kate-data
[19:26] <shumski> and then sudo apt-get -f install
[19:27] <EinGolem> BluesKaj: I don't see anything about SATA in that report. What do you think?
[19:28] <olpe> shumski: it just gives me  cannot remove `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kate/common': Input/output error
[19:30] <shumski> sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[19:30] <olpe> shumski: and if you ls -lt the directory: l????????? ? ?    ?        ?            ? common
[19:30] <olpe> shumski: seems strange
[19:30] <shumski> olpe: indeed
[19:30] <shumski> try that command before
[19:31] <olpe> shumski: same result
[19:31] <olpe> shumski: do I mess things up if I try to remove that directory manually?
[19:32] <shumski> yeah, don't do it, i would first fsck your partitions
[19:32] <BluesKaj> EinGolem, yes , just an IDE controller I'm afraid
[19:33] <EinGolem> damn.
[19:34] <shumski> olpe: after doing sudo dpkg --clear-avail and sudo dpkg --force-all -P kate-data it should not give the same error
[19:35] <olpe> shumski: Input/Output error... I'll try to fsck my drive
[19:35] <BluesKaj> I see there are SATA to IDE adapters , but the cheap ones are known to burn up due to poor power regulation , so they are dangerous ... about 30 bucks should buy a decent adapter
[19:35] <olpe> shumski: whats the best way to do it when its my root drive?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> EinGolem,^
[19:36] <shumski> olpe: you can't do it while it's mounted
[19:37] <shumski> you need to force it on the reboot, or use livecd
[19:37] <olpe> shumski: ok, I'll do the usual touch /forcefsck
[19:37] <olpe> shumski: I'll be back :)
[19:37] <EinGolem> Okay, so that and a new sata hdd, if I were to install one, would just work? Say if I bought a new Sata HDD, would it always awork with any mobo? Or would I need a certain mobo?
[19:37] <shumski> olpe: ok
[19:37] <EinGolem> new HDD are 50 euro over here, and I don't know how much an adaptor is.
[19:38] <EinGolem> But it's always gping to be cheaper than buying a new comp for now. (cheapest about 400 euro)
[19:39] <EinGolem> Running this os off a USB is slow, lol.
[19:42] <olpe> shumski: My god, the problem really was my ssd... This is my first time in 15 years of using linux that my hdd had this kind of problem...
[19:42] <olpe> shumski: Now everything works
[19:43] <shumski> olpe: working now?
[19:43] <shumski> olpe: cool ;-)
[19:43] <olpe> shumski: but I cant understand why I had the same problem with 2 different machines
[19:43] <olpe> shumski: I'll try to go to other machine and see if this approach will fix that also
[19:43] <shumski> olpe: dunno, i found a similar bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=552517
[19:44] <olpe> shumski: I'll buy you a beer or what ever is your favourite drug next time I'll see you :)
[19:44] <BluesKaj> EinGolem, http://ca.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/Bi-Directional-SATA-IDE-Adapter-Converter~PATA2SATA3
[19:45] <shumski> olpe: no problem :-)
[19:46] <EinGolem> BluesKaj: great, I'll bookmark that. cheap enough too.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> EinGolem, that's a Canadian site but I'm sure the same product is availble inEurope
[19:47] <EinGolem> yeah, 22 euro.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> that's good
[19:51] <BluesKaj> this pc is 4 yrs old and it has one IDE connection that is used for a windows install ..my other linux box died back in march so I put the HDD to use on this pc
[19:53] <alexandro> Hi guys! Any russo? )
[19:55] <BluesKaj> !ru | alexandro
[19:55] <alexandro> ру ру )
[20:07] <TheMiner> Question: How would someone place widgets on one desktop but not have them appear on the others?
[20:09] <Phiscribe> TheMiner maybe use activities instead of desktops? dunno how to limit to desktops
[20:13] <phunyguy> So I have some NFS shares mounted, and in Dolphin, they come up in the left side as a mounted share, but the name is like /full/nfs/share/path.  How can I convert this to a simple name?
[20:15] <shumski> TheMiner: SystemSettings --> Workspace Behaviour --> Virtual Desktops --> tick "Different widgets..."
[20:15] <BluesKaj> phunyguy, you try it in properties , highlight the path first ...it might stick
[20:19] <phunyguy> BluesKaj: Properties of what?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> file then properties in dolphin that is
[20:19] <phunyguy> oh
[20:20] <BluesKaj> choose the mounted share first
[20:20] <phunyguy> I dont see a File menu
[20:20] <phunyguy> n/m
[20:21] <phunyguy> it shows as simple name there
[20:21] <phunyguy> just the share name
[20:22] <BluesKaj> you have to configure dolphin to show the menubar
[20:22] <phunyguy> i did
[20:23] <phunyguy> maybe an fstab option?
[20:23] <phunyguy> thats how I have it mounted
[20:23] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:24] <phunyguy> just not sure what that option potentially is
[20:25] <BluesKaj> my external drive shows as /media/External  , but iI copied the UUIDs to fstab foer the rest of the partitions
[20:26] <BluesKaj> I haven't bother changing the other names thp
[20:26] <BluesKaj> bothered
[20:28] <BluesKaj> to find the uuids , sudo blkid
[20:29] <BluesKaj> take out the quotes after pasting
[20:35] <BluesKaj> phunyguy, you might need to use the /sdx designation in fstab ...havent' used NFS in a while , you may need to change it in the export file
[20:36] <BluesKaj> anyway , I have to reboot again , apps are crashing here ,,,in limbo on 12.10
[20:52] <shumski> BluesKaj: still crashing?
[20:53] <Chakotay> Can someone tell me how to get the volume widget down by the clock? for some reason it's not there (12.04 32 bit)
[20:58] <BluesKaj> shumski, yes ...just rebooted, should be good for an hr or so then kate will creash.System settings>workspace appearance crashes immediately
[20:58] <shumski> BluesKaj: so, not nvidia issue?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> no i don't thinks o , the kate crash appears to be a QtXX4.so issue
[21:00] <BluesKaj> xx= some lib
[21:01] <shumski> BluesKaj: what about kdebugdialog? managed to turn it on?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> yup, I even tried to file a bug , but I can't recall my pw :(
[21:03] <shumski> what's the output if you try to tun kate from konsole?
[21:03] <shumski> pw for bugs.kde ?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> that crashed kate , hang on I'll paste the backtrace info
[21:07] <BluesKaj> shumski, http://pastebin.com/26ek1dBb
[21:09] <shumski> BluesKaj: will take a look in a minute
[21:14] <shumski> BluesKaj: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913
[21:19] <BluesKaj> actually kate crashes from the terminal , not if I open a text file in dolphin ...then after about an hr it will crash globally , shumski
[21:20] <shumski> Also, this one https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305718
[21:22] <BluesKaj> shum yes and as mentioned in the last bug , kwin crashed this morning leaving me with no X or desktop ,
[21:22] <BluesKaj> shumski,^
[21:22] <shumski> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685524
[21:23] <shumski> It seems a patch causes this issue, kubuntu_36_qtscript_64bit.diff
[21:23] <BluesKaj> uhm ,we're talking about 12.10 here
[21:24] <shumski> It's a 'upstream' issue, so it doesn't matter which *buntu version
[21:24] <BluesKaj> but I did have simiilar symptoms with early versions of 12.04
[21:24] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:26] <BluesKaj> ok , kate just segfaulted in dolphin now
[21:27] <shumski> BluesKaj: i would poke #kubuntu-devel about this
[21:28] <BluesKaj> I already have , both yesterday and today , shumski
[21:28] <shumski> But now you have a backtrace :)
[21:30] <BluesKaj> I also reported it to penguin 42 in ubuntu+1 , he was vary interested in the backtrace as well , so I pastedd it there as well earlier today
[21:32] <shumski> BluesKaj: you can open a launchpad bug report, referencing that debian bug and those from kde bugs
[21:35] <BluesKaj> shumski, actually i filed launchpad bug report on the application appearance crash for 12.04 ..all I ever got was reports wre filed a dupes , same goes the the kmail bugs I files
[21:36] <BluesKaj> as dupes
[21:36] <BluesKaj> gave up on kmail ... havent even attempted to set it up
[21:36] <BluesKaj> since
[21:36] <shumski> that systemsettings crash is rather common one, altough there can be different cuases, dunno about kmail bugs
[21:37] <shumski> where is your app. appearance bug?
[21:37] <BluesKaj> some have kmail working very smoothly ,, here it works for a week or so then starts crashing
[21:38] <BluesKaj> it was filed a s a dupe
[21:39] <BluesKaj> or given duplication status , so dunno id anyone bothered looking at it for unique properties
[21:40] <shumski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~USERNAME
[21:47] <BluesKaj> hmm don't see them ..strange , especailly the kmail bug , I must ahve received 5 notices per day about duplicate filings til I finally unsubscribed to that bug, now I don't see the kate crash either , shumski
[21:48] <BluesKaj> these are the only 2 that have survived on my bugfile list , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/910907 ,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761
[21:49] <shumski> ok, then open it against qt --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+filebug
[21:51] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to run the Kubuntu Alternate Installer, and all I get are screens like this (http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=9375) I tried pressing f6 to get the nomodeset option, but even pressing f6 didn't seem to do anything, ia there anything I can try to get nomodeset enabled before rebooting from my working OS?
[21:52] <shumski> Note that crashing itself needs to be fixed upstream, you can only ask to remove problematic patch
[22:13] <skreech_> What's a good program to put two pictures side by side?
[22:15] <Daskreech> c_smith: when does it turn into that?
[22:15] <BluesKaj> shumski, why is there no bug reporting option on my launchpad page ..weird , they make you jump thru hoops ..what's changed ?
[22:15] <c_smith> Daskreech, upon booting it.
[22:15] <Daskreech> c_smith: So before the BIOS screen?
[22:16] <shumski> BluesKaj: dunno
[22:16] <c_smith> Daskreech, no, I'll rephrase, upon booting into the Live USB disk
[22:16] <Daskreech> c_smith: so before the kernel info runs by?
[22:16] <shumski> you can do ubuntu-bug $PACKAGENAME
[22:17] <c_smith> Daskreech, as in, after a very short flash of something regarding something not being defined.
[22:17] <Daskreech> c_smith: Did you do a checksum?
[22:17] <c_smith> Daskreech, that I remembered I hadn't, and am doing now.
[22:17] <BluesKaj> not gonna bother with kubuntu report bug option , i created an acct but it won't open so I'll just drop it for now
[22:17] <Daskreech> c_smith: alright
[22:18] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: What are you reporting?
[22:18] <BluesKaj> shumski, ...been a long day . I need a break
[22:18] <c_smith> Daskreech, md5sum of the iso matches
[22:18] <Daskreech> c_smith: what speed did you burn it at?
[22:18] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, like I said , i'm no longer in the mood
[22:19] <c_smith> Daskreech, being as my optical drive is out until I can get it repaired, I used a flash drive to do this.
[22:19] <Daskreech> c_smith: Ah. Umm not sure how to pass a check to the UCB drive
[22:19] <BluesKaj> that's it for today ...it's more difficult filing a bug than it should be
[22:20] <c_smith> Daskreech, might trying another USB drive help?
[22:20] <Daskreech> c_smith: I'd try the USB drive in another computer first
[22:20] <c_smith> k, good thing I have such a thing.
[22:21] <c_smith> yep, disk looks to boot up find on the other PC.
[22:21] <c_smith> Daskreech, gonna chack it with this PC.
[22:22] <Daskreech> c_smith: alright
[22:22] <c_smith> Daskreech, it all checks out as good.
[22:22] <Daskreech> c_smith: What's the motherboard in the problem PC?
[22:23] <c_smith> Daskreech, hmmmm..... gonna have to google that.  give me a few.
[22:23] <Daskreech> Sounds to me like it's a chipset issue
[22:23] <Daskreech>  Some of them are seriously funky about booting from USB
[22:26] <c_smith> Daskreech, would the main board possibly be listed in dmidecode as the base board?
[22:34] <c_smith> Daskreech, found my motherboard, it's a Lenovo Emerald Lake mainboard
[22:36] <c_smith> Daskreech, and it DOES have UEFI
[22:37] <c_smith> brb, testing a theory I just had
[22:49] <datruth> how an I stop kmix from starting?
[22:50] <monkeyjuice> why?
[22:50] <datruth> Cause I am going to use something else instead
[22:51] <datruth> can I tie my fn + sound key to another mixer?
[23:09] <monkeyjuice> datruth: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58778-VeroMix-as-KMix-alternative-(avoids-occasional-segfaults) maybe this will help
[23:57] <datruth> monkeyjuice: kmixrc did the trick setting autostate=fa;se
[23:57] <datruth> false