[00:14] <_2cool4me4_> How well does Lubuntu run on a box with 512 MB of RAM and a 3 GHZ single core?
[00:16] <TheMaster> I'd say pretty good, I have it on 512 with 500MHz.
[00:18] <_2cool4me4_> What do you run on it?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> _2cool4me4_: ram is cheap :)
[00:19] <TheMaster> Mixed user, one uses GUI stuff, I pretty much use it for terminal (alpine, irssi, newsbeuter, etc)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> TheMaster: then you have plenty of ram for what you use :)
[00:20] <_2cool4me4_> ActionParsnip: I know, but for now, I only have 512 MB, which I COULD upgrade to around 700 mb
[00:20] <TheMaster> ActionParsnip: Could very well do with more.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> TheMaster: what CPU is it?
[00:21] <TheMaster> As I said, 500MHz one, celeron to be exact.
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> ah, so SD RAM? or is it DDR?
[00:22] <_2cool4me4_> The only thing I would like to run is XBMC or one of its counterparts
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> xbmc is quite heavy
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> do you own a smartphone at all?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> vlc has a web UI and you can enable it then control it from the phone
[00:50] <_2cool4me4_> It doesn't have an internet connection, I want a setup running before adding new components
[00:52] <_2cool4me4_> Except RAM, I'm gonna get that soon
[00:56] <_2cool4me4_> But I do own an Android
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> it can be done over wifi, no need for www link
[02:49] <macguges> Hello, I've installed lubuntu on my dad's dell latitude. He wants to use a acx1xx nic with it, but its driver was not on the cd. Where can I get the driver? http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Netopia_TER/WPC11N1
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> macguges: what chip does the NIC use?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> sudo lshw -C network      will tell you the chip
[08:12] <etfb> I'm trying to delete the guest account on my kids' computer, but I can't. Can someone tell me how?
[08:13] <etfb> I edited /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd, rebooted, and the bloody computer recreated the entries!
[08:13] <etfb> And there's nothing in any GUI programs that even mentions it.
[08:14] <etfb> And of course Google "helpfully" insists that "lubuntu" is a typo for "ubuntu" and so leads me to a thousand explanations of how to edit lightdm.conf...
[08:30] <bioterror> :D
[08:31] <bioterror> two minutes visit and doing it all wrong
[08:31] <bioterror> but he was on a correct track :D
[16:33] <Cujo> hello
[16:33] <Cujo> Hello
[16:34] <Cujo> Is this where I can ask a question about getting Lubuntu to work propperly on my pc?
[18:13] <BillySnowman> Can i ask a question?
[18:13] <joe__825> Hi guys, i need some help as weel please
[18:14] <zleap> whyt does using search to find a folder, right clicking on a foundfile,  and thenselecting open containing folder open a terminal ?
[18:15] <BillySnowman> I'm installing the alternate Lubuntu 12.04 installer, but it seems to just stop when it finishes detecting all the hardware, any ideas what's wrong?
[18:17] <BillySnowman> I'm using a Dell Inspiron 4150 if that helps
[18:18] <zleap> can you switch to a terminal thing that shows messages from the kernel (maybe someone can help here )
[18:21] <joe__825> is anyone willing to help me with fonts issues?
[18:23] <zleap> er not sure,  we need people with more expertise really
[18:23] <joe__825> zleap, how's your fonts going ? ;)
[18:24] <zleap> my fonts seem fine
[18:24] <joe__825> on browsers too?
[18:24] <zleap> i used to have an issue with fonts and open / lbreoffce menus but that was ages ago
[18:24] <zleap> browsers seem fine
[18:24] <joe__825> do u remember how you fixed that?
[18:25] <zleap> nope,
[18:25] <zleap> what version of lubuntu you running
[18:25] <joe__825> :)
[18:25] <bioterror> what's wrong with the fonts?
[18:25] <bioterror> and if the alternate hangs, sounds like a hardware related problems
[18:26] <bioterror> it's quite idiot proof
[18:26] <joe__825> 12.10
[18:26] <joe__825> fonts are blurry, fuzzy
[18:27] <bioterror> give us png
[18:27] <bioterror> ;)
[18:27] <joe__825> me?
[18:28] <BillySnowman> well, when it finishes the hardware check all I see is a blue screen with a whit/light grey line at the bottom, where I can write things in
[18:28] <bioterror> if you compare GNU/Linux fonts to Windows, it's always blurry
[18:28] <bioterror> it's not a secret that all the linux distros sucks with the fonts
[18:28] <joe__825> oh really? yes i do compare actually, somehow i managed to get it right on debian
[18:29] <bioterror> look at the pictures from the late 90's when people was using netscape navigator :D
[18:29] <joe__825> was it blurry back then too? that's interesting
[18:29] <joe__825> i miss netscape days
[18:30] <bioterror> I think antialiasing has something to do with the blurryness
[18:31] <joe__825> yeah, i've ticked the antialiasing off... once again, it did the trick in mint and debian.. but lubuntu seems to be a little behind when it comes to fonts managment
[18:31] <BillySnowman> I tried to install it before using the desktop one, but that one crashed when it was installing the bundled software
[18:31] <zleap> hmm,   i do sometines get some weird blurry ness on a browser
[18:31] <zleap> but nothing that is annoying enough to worry about
[18:32] <joe__825> right now, it's mainly the arial bold i think ;)
[18:32] <joe__825> i've installed microsoft fonts to be on the safe side..
[18:32] <bioterror> dejavu-ttf is the one that works quite well
[18:33] <BillySnowman> is there any way to fix my problem?
[18:33] <joe__825> oh... gimme a few i'll give it a shot... thanks bioterror
[18:34] <bioterror> BillySnowman, do you have problems with the desktop installer too?
[18:34] <BillySnowman> yes
[18:34] <BillySnowman> that one crashed when it was installing the bundled software
[18:34] <bioterror> BillySnowman, actually when you press alt+f5 or something like that, you should get into another tty which shows you what really happens during the installation
[18:35] <bioterror> it would enlighten us a lot
[18:39] <BillySnowman> check-missing-firmware: missing firmware files (agere_sta_fw.bin) for orinco_cs
[18:40] <BillySnowman> bioterror here's what I see "check-missing-firmware: missing firmware files (agere_sta_fw.bin) for orinco_cs"
[18:43] <BillySnowman> is that of any help?
[18:46] <joe__825> so sorry about the ignorence bio, but how do i install fonts of tar.bz2 package file?
[18:49] <kanliot>  joe__825 there's a guide @ help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Setup
[18:50] <joe__825> cheers kanliot, gonna check that up
[19:20] <joe__964> no luck with fonts issues here.. i have minimized the problem... it's mostly blurry when text is bold
[19:20] <joe__964> mainly in browsers
[19:21] <joe__964> any ideas friends?
[19:22] <bioterror> press "Auto adjustment" from your display if you're using HD-15 (VGA) cable between your computer and display
[19:24] <zleap> joe__964, yeah same here
[19:24] <joe__964> done. no luck
[19:24] <joe__964> oh
[19:24] <zleap> actually i noticed an improvement between versions of firefox
[19:24] <zleap> only now it seems to display other websites on top of others as if its not refreshing properly
[19:25] <joe__964> yeah, it's getting there but still no the 'real thing' ;)
[19:25] <joe__964> anyhow i've noticed another problem with the monitor settings
[19:26] <zleap> joe__964, are you using the latest version of your browser
[19:26] <joe__964> when i change the refresh rate to 75 instead of 60, and hit the 'apply' and goes back to 60 again
[19:26] <zleap> hmm
[19:27] <joe__964> i mean.. it goes back to 60 refresh rate
[19:27] <joe__964> it also wont detect my monitor
[19:28] <zleap> i taske it your using a clean install of lubuntu,  as I just installed lubuntu-desktop over ubuntu (as in the packages) so our experiences in some areas are similar but that could be a factor
[19:28] <zleap> you're
[19:28] <joe__964> oh i see what you mean zleap
[19:30] <zleap> in some ways its "good" we are having similar issues,  it rules out hardware faults on monitors
[19:30] <zleap> ok now running firefox 15
[19:30] <joe__964> congrats ;)
[19:30] <zleap> updating before seemed to cure the blurry bold font issue
[19:31] <zleap> however 15 will hopefully cure the other issue with being able to see through part of a browser window to another site  (hard to describe) but its not what should happen
[19:32] <joe__964> wish u best of luck
[19:33] <zleap> thankjs
[19:33] <zleap> as i said blurry font = update seems to fix
[19:33] <zleap> other issue occurs randomly so hard to reproduce but if it stops happening then ff 15 fixed it
[19:33] <zleap> joe__964, same to you
[19:36] <joe__964> yeah well its less blurry in comparcy with chromium but not like ms os still
[19:38] <joe__964> i bet you anything opera will be sharp as, but opera luck support with latest web technologies
[19:45] <joe__964> see you later zleap. nice talking to you. cheers