[04:14] <lee_> hello.Can i install software using command 'sudo sh xxx.run' and specify it's owner?
[04:23] <MartijnVdS> lee_: depends on the software
[04:23] <MartijnVdS> lee_: sudo means you do it as root
[04:23] <MartijnVdS> lee_: you could use "sudo -u username sh xxx.run" to run the installer as that specific user
[05:27] <AlanBell> morning all
[05:28] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: morning
[05:58] <AlanBell> Boccia today
[05:58] <MartijnVdS> Boccia?
[05:58] <MartijnVdS> F1 today!
[05:59] <AlanBell> what time does F1 start?
[05:59] <MartijnVdS> 12:10 on your side of the water :)
[06:00] <MartijnVdS> 13:10 on my side
[06:00] <AlanBell> I might catch the finish
[06:42] <daubers> o/
[06:43] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:58] <kvarley> Can anybody point me in the direction of a good IP Tables tutorial/resource? I'm looking to block all traffic except for certain IP addresses on certain ports.
[07:59] <kvarley> Nvm, help.ubuntu.com knows all :)
[07:59] <christel> good morning
[08:06] <kvarley> Can anybody recommend a reasonably priced VPS host in the UK that will run Ubuntu Server as an encrypted install?
[08:11] <MartijnVdS> encrypted install?
[08:12] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: Yeah the way when you install Ubuntu on a PC you can encrypt the home directory
[08:13] <kvarley> I've found one but they would charge for it
[08:13] <MartijnVdS> also.. you give them the key, so encrypting would be a bit useless
[08:31] <kvarley> true
[09:32] <dutchie> morning
[09:57] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:57] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[09:58] <brobostigon> o/ MartijnVdS
[12:12] <MartijnVdS> Lots of excitement in Spa :)
[12:16] <brobostigon> smash,
[13:19] <kvarley> I'm using gufw as my firewall and it seems to be blocking connections even though I have set specific rules
[13:19] <kvarley> I have set incoming traffic to deny but then specified certain IP addresses and ports to be allowed
[13:20] <kvarley> When I allow incoming traffic I can connect so my rules don't seem to be working
[13:28] <zleap> what about your router, is that blocking stuff that gufw is allowing
[13:34] <kvarley> zleap: I'm connecting from a machine on the same subnet on the lan so it shouldn't be an issue
[13:38] <kvarley> zleap: My bad, mistyped one number which knocked the rule out lol
[13:38] <zleap> ah np
[13:38] <zleap> easy done that
[13:46] <DJones> Does anybody here use google sites for a small business website, just wondering how easy they are to set up and manage
[14:27] <penguin42> DJones: I've been kind of employed by a company that did, from an endusers point of view it worked well
[14:27] <penguin42> DJones: Oh actually, that was mail/etc probably not the website
[14:29] <DJones> Seems fairly easy to use for basic websites from what I can see anyway
[15:05] <Azelphur> I keep on having issues with nautilus and gedit where they exhibit weird keyboard related behaviour. Gedit won't show a text cursor so I have no idea where I'm typing, and nautilus won't let me type to select a folder
[15:05] <Azelphur> It almost seems like they are refusing to focus properly, I have to restart them to get the problem to go away
[15:25] <kvarley> Does anybody here know how I can view ejabberd error logs? I can't seem to connect to my ejabberd server with encryption required on my client but I can't see any error messsages
[15:51]  * BigRedS assumes you've already looked for /var/log/ejabberd
[15:52] <brobostigon> can you change to what detail it logs ?
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> sigh
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> is focus-follows-mouse forbidden now?
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> in unity?
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> I can unset "click to focus" but it won't stick :(
[15:58] <BigRedS> MartijnVdS: How would the menus work in focus follows mouse?
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: Menus? What are those?
[15:58] <penguin42> BigRedS: Not well is the answer
[15:59] <penguin42> BigRedS: It kind of works but is touchy, you can get around it with using F10 to bring up current menu
[15:59] <BigRedS> haha, that's why I stopped looking for focus-follows-mouse almost as soon as I started
[15:59] <MartijnVdS> just remove the appmenu-gtk{,3} packages
[16:00] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: See bug 674138 and there seem to be some people also interested https://launchpad.net/~focus-follows-mouse
[16:01] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: It worked until yesterday, then I upgraded my quantal machine
[16:01] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: now it's b0rken
[16:01] <MartijnVdS> last mail on that team mailing list is almost a year old
[16:02] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Ah oh, I didn't realise you meant it had completely broken
[16:02] <MartijnVdS> and setting it in ccsm doesn't stick :(
[16:03] <MartijnVdS> lots of bugs about "HUD" focus..
[16:04] <MartijnVdS> I don't understand the HUD though... but that might be because I never use menus anywya
[16:09] <BigRedS> I was just wondering if anyone has got into the habit of using the hud
[16:09] <BigRedS> It keeps breaking terminator's alt+arrow-key for me so I've disabled it
[16:10] <BigRedS> and I've never thought "Hm, wonder if it's worth re-enabling"
[16:49] <mattt> evening all
[16:49] <mattt> wow, where has the day gone
[16:52] <christel> hiya mattt :)
[16:54] <mattt> christel: hey you
[17:03] <christel> hows tricks?
[17:29] <kvarley> Does anybody know how DNS SRV records work?
[17:29] <RaycisCharles> MartijnVdS: did you see Van Persie's hat-trick against the Saints?
[17:30] <RaycisCharles> kvarley: yes...an application will register a SRV record in your DNS zone. Clients which query DNS for that service will know which node hosts the service.
[17:30] <RaycisCharles> In a nutshell.
[17:30] <RaycisCharles> For anything further, consult Google.
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> RaycisCharles: I have no idea.. I don't watch football.
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> RaycisCharles: sports are much more fun to DO than to watch
[17:40] <kvarley> I have a subdomain that has an A record pointing to the IP of my server. Then I have a _xmpp-client as a SRV record to the subdomain but it still won't let me connect.
[17:48] <BigRedS> What's 'it'? My Jabber client connects to the IP at the end of the A record of the domain part of my username
[17:52] <kvarley> BigRedS: Pidgin won't let me connect to the WAN IP of the server (obviously from another WAN IP)
[17:52] <BigRedS> why not? Can you telnet to it on the relevant port?
[17:54] <kvarley> BigRedS: So I don't need SRV records specifically for this service so long as the ports are open?
[17:55] <BigRedS> however your client finds the XMPP server you need to have the ports open so that traffic from the client can get to the server
[17:55] <BigRedS> you need SRV records if your client requires them, pidgin doesn't appear to
[19:37] <davmor2> hello all
[20:03] <BigRedS> Good morning!
[20:04] <AlanBell> morning BigRedS
[20:04] <BigRedS> aha, good morning!
[20:04] <BigRedS> I come with a DNS problem :)
[20:05] <BigRedS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182238/
[20:05] <BigRedS> that output makes no sense to me, does it to anyone else?
[20:05] <BigRedS> ns0 and ns1.avi.co are my own nameservers, two VPSs running Bind
[20:06] <AlanBell> standard question before I read it carefully, is there anything in a /etc/hosts file that shouldn't be there?
[20:06] <BigRedS> nope
[20:06] <BigRedS> resolv.conf is looked after by n-m
[20:08] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182246/
[20:09] <BigRedS> hmm
[20:10] <BigRedS> Can you try the same for 'nickvaughan.org' please? That's what triggered this
[20:11] <BigRedS> ah, I'm wondering if it's about DNS falling back on TCP where UDP's not allowed, I've a feeling neither of those hosts have much in the way of UDP permitted
[20:12] <BigRedS> there's been a few people have problems with resolving names that I'm authoritative for, and thinking now it's only come up since ns0 ended up behind a different router
[20:13] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182256/
[20:13] <BigRedS> Ta! I think I'll take this up with the Keeper Of The Routers tomorrow :)
[20:14] <AlanBell> :)
[21:23] <bigcalm> Hi peeps :)
[21:24] <mgdm> Hi
[21:25] <christel> heya bigcalm :)
[21:26] <bigcalm> Evening mgdm
[21:26] <bigcalm> Howdy christel :D
[21:26] <bigcalm> What are you kids up to?
[21:26] <christel> hullu m'dear
[21:26] <christel> i am crushing someones hope of employment -- you?
[21:27] <bigcalm> \o/ life sucks like that :|
[21:27] <mgdm> christel: oh dear
[21:27] <bigcalm> I'm trying to put off going to bed because then it will be work that much sooner
[21:28] <christel> what sucks? i love it :D
[21:28] <bigcalm> Sadist :P
[21:29] <bigcalm> Which reminds me to check a certain site
[21:29] <BigRedS> A sadism one?
[21:29] <bigcalm> BigRedS: feels like it at time
[21:29] <bigcalm> Facebook
[21:29] <BigRedS> haha
[21:44] <christel> bigcalm: haha nah, it's not my fault that they're rubbish :P
[21:44] <bigcalm> That would hamper their ability to work
[21:57] <christel> indeed
[22:00] <bigcalm> Touch bored. What shall I do?
[22:02] <BigRedS> I can send you my todo list if you like? :)
[22:02] <bigcalm> I was hoping for something fun :P
[22:04] <BigRedS> ah, nothing matching that description on it I'm afraid
[22:06] <bigcalm> I have 116 SVN repos to move to GIT. FML
[22:06] <BigRedS> just stick the appropriate bash aliases in everyone's .bashrc
[22:06] <mgdm> bigcalm: it's not actually tat bad
[22:07] <bigcalm> mgdm: I've moved 3 so far
[22:08] <bigcalm> Or 5, small number any way
[22:08] <bigcalm> It's just slow
[22:09] <bigcalm> But some sites have been deployed using SVN (not my idea), which is going to be interesting getting git onto said servers and use deploy keys
[22:09] <bigcalm> Oh, and there's Trac that needs setting up again as well
[22:09]  * bigcalm spends a bit of time doing that :)
[22:35] <bigcalm> Sleep now
[23:11] <ali1234> can mobile me/icloud send email from different addresses?
[23:12] <ali1234> no, it can't. lame